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  • 1. CALL TO ORDER - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
  • B.  Information/Discussion regarding an update from the Tri-City Regional Sanitary District on their sewer construction project. (Mike Krebs)

  • 2.  REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:

    A. Information/Discussion regarding an operational update on the Buckhead Mesa and Russell Gulch Landfills, including current operations, facility conditions, operational challenges, ongoing projects and capital improvements, and future operational considerations. (Joseph Dickison)

  • C.  Information/Discussion regarding the status of flood recovery projects, associated funding resources, and the0-day completion timeline requirements for NRCS Emergency Watershed Protection projects. (Matt Rencher)
  • E.  Information/Discussion regarding Gila County’s Environmental Protection Agency Brownfields Assessment Grant, including the approved work plan, priority properties, budget, and planned implementation. (Aimee Staten)
  • D.  Information/Discussion regarding Job Order Contracting (JOC) and Construction Task Catalogs (CTCs) as alternative procurement methods for Gila County capital improvement, infrastructure, maintenance, and facilities projects, including the potential utilization of cooperative purchasing agreements through Sourcewell, the Arizona Department of Administration (ADOA), and Yavapai County. (Joseph Dicksion)
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Event transcript
Morning everybody. Welcome to our work session on Tuesday, October. 00:00:00
27th. 00:00:04
A little after. 00:00:05
10:00 AM in the morning. 00:00:07
And we can. 00:00:09
Would you join us? 00:00:14
Would you lead the Pledge of Allegiance, please? 00:00:17
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:23
Of the United States of America. 00:00:25
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:00:28
One Nation. 00:00:31
Honor God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:32
Good morning, everyone. Thanks for being here today and. 00:00:37
Joseph, I'm gonna. 00:00:47
Kick you back. 00:00:48
We have. 00:00:50
A lot of staff, but these gentlemen traveled today and so. 00:00:51
Mr. Krebs, if you guys don't mind, we're going to get into regular agenda item, but we're going to do agenda item 2B. 00:00:56
1st. 00:01:04
Information Discussion. 00:01:06
Regarding an update from the Tri-City Regional Sanitation. 00:01:08
District on their sewer. 00:01:12
Construction project. 00:01:14
Gentlemen. 00:01:16
Welcome. Thank you. Thank you. It's a it's always a pleasure being here. We always like to. 00:01:17
Come up and let you all know, give you an update on how the project's going. 00:01:23
And where we are and. 00:01:27
And that the. 00:01:28
The district, The board's been very busy. 00:01:30
Since we were here. 00:01:33
Last time I do want to introduce to the board, it's with me Daniel Zimmerman, who is the new executive director for the. 00:01:35
Sanitary District. 00:01:43
So dander, I don't know. 00:01:45
Sure, I just want to. 00:01:46
Thank you for your support last Friday. 00:01:47
Right out representative Crane and for all that were able to be there the community support for the for the district is. 00:01:50
Fantastic. You know that we've got a lot of work in front of us, so it's wonderful that we know that we have your support. 00:01:57
And that. 00:02:03
We are able to work together. 00:02:04
With all the way from the federal to the local level to get this done. So I want to just introduce myself, make myself available 00:02:06
to you if you have questions as we work. 00:02:09
Ourselves along with my role as primarily as quarterback. 00:02:13
So I'm just the central. 00:02:16
Components to coordinate. 00:02:18
From construction all the way out to the operational procedures. 00:02:19
And my goal is to get us ready for. 00:02:23
Operations when we are ready to pump. 00:02:25
Flow sometime, Lord willing, in. 00:02:28
Summer of next year. 00:02:32
So that's what our goals are just. 00:02:34
I want to thank you for your support and make myself available to you for any questions or as we move this project along. 00:02:36
Please feel free to come up and ask whatever and. 00:02:41
I'm responsible to know an answer. 00:02:43
Excellent. Thank you. Supervisor Klein, do you have any questions? 00:02:46
Just a quick one. Thank you, Mr. Chair and thank you guys for. 00:02:51
What you're doing, you guys are moving right along, but just one of the questions that I have is. 00:02:55
After all, they dig in and excavating, completing everything. 00:03:00
Are you guys gonna be the ones going back and putting the streets and roads back into place, or how's that gonna work? 00:03:03
Yes. 00:03:09
Yes, the patching. 00:03:10
The patching will be done as part of this project. 00:03:12
OK, yeah, because there's been, excuse me, a lot of. 00:03:17
A lot of materials stirred up and I know a lot of driveways and stuff in that area. 00:03:21
It's pretty slick right now because of granite that was on it is now gone and. 00:03:25
And but you guys are going to take care of all that. 00:03:29
Yes, yes, they've actually started, I think. 00:03:32
Their plans are in motion to start getting some of the streets that. 00:03:36
The. 00:03:40
House connections are on to get those. 00:03:43
Buttoned up. 00:03:45
So that's that's in progress. 00:03:46
So thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate it. 00:03:49
Thank you. 00:03:51
Christensen, do you have any questions? Yeah, I'll just say thank you again and it's good to meet you both. 00:03:53
And again, and it's good to be there on Friday. 00:03:59
And it's. 00:04:02
Really awesome that here we are in 2026. 00:04:03
And doing something. 00:04:07
That is almost archaic in a sense that. 00:04:09
Just basic sanitation. 00:04:13
And so look forward to working with both of you going forward. 00:04:14
Good. Thank you. 00:04:18
Can you open up the 1st? 00:04:20
Slide. 00:04:22
So I'll take a few more minutes. I want to show you. 00:04:23
Try we we produce these maps. 00:04:26
Month on a monthly basis and and I will be happy to start sending them to the clerk if if you would like. 00:04:31
But what you can see on this map, this is the Claypool area. 00:04:37
And the. 00:04:42
The lines, they're different colors and they represent different things. So the ones that are green. 00:04:44
Means everything's done and they should be able to get the asphalt back in on them. 00:04:49
The ones that are. 00:04:54
Orange means the lines are in, they just haven't been tested yet. 00:04:55
And the date of these maps is the 10th of September. 00:05:00
So you know they're, you know, they're a little bit. 00:05:04
They're not up to date, but again, we're doing these monthly to try to get these turned and have progress shown. 00:05:07
So you can kind of see the progress that's that's happening a lot along railroad. 00:05:13
And Broadway and and and that whole area. 00:05:19
Please, of course. 00:05:25
So that the people in the room can see the maps that I've got them here in my book. 00:05:33
Good. 00:05:40
Yeah. All right. So I just. 00:05:40
Just wanted to. 00:05:43
Go ahead, Sorry. 00:05:45
No, you're fine. 00:05:46
So we just wanted to show you that. 00:05:47
You know where progress is being made. 00:05:49
And right now you can see that they're heading South on Old Oak. 00:05:51
Which is kind of a new street that they're they're. 00:05:56
They're working on SO. 00:05:59
So that's. 00:06:02
So star view that whole area. 00:06:04
As we call it, Basin 2 is. 00:06:06
Wrapped up except for a little testing. 00:06:08
Roadway Railroad. 00:06:11
And locomotive those are. 00:06:13
Getting much closer to getting wrapped up. 00:06:15
We're working with the water company on a couple of items on that one. 00:06:18
And then? 00:06:23
The I don't know. 00:06:24
Maybe some of your? 00:06:26
Been around long enough for where but we've been running into a bunch of concrete walls. 00:06:27
In the in the excavation, so. 00:06:31
I think there were. 00:06:34
Four of them on Old Oak. 00:06:35
And Pine way, not Pine way, but. 00:06:37
Just in some different areas. It looks like it may have been the old Creek or something that. 00:06:40
As best we could tell kind of looking at what they are, but. 00:06:45
It's just been kind of. 00:06:48
Interesting and funny to. 00:06:50
It's like, what are these walls doing? 00:06:51
Ground, but it's all good. 00:06:54
We're getting through them. 00:06:56
On the treatment plant, the concrete pads are. 00:06:58
Well, could you show the other? 00:07:02
So this is. 00:07:05
This is Claypool, the other one. Sorry I jumped. 00:07:06
Law too soon? 00:07:08
Is on the Highway 188. 00:07:12
Work. 00:07:15
And then I'll talk about the treatment plant. 00:07:18
They started progressing, you can see. 00:07:21
Up north. 00:07:24
At the plant and they're working South. 00:07:26
And they already have the boars, both boars underneath the highway. 00:07:28
And if you could scroll up a little bit. 00:07:33
You can see where they're going. 00:07:36
Underneath, and then they'll start going north of the. 00:07:38
Golf Course. 00:07:42
And they have to get the bore under 60. So all of that work is in progress. 00:07:43
So it's, you know, it's all coming together. 00:07:48
This work could be. 00:07:51
Finished probably. 00:07:52
As early as March of next year. 00:07:55
So and then on the treatment plant. 00:07:58
I don't have any. 00:08:01
Drawings on that. 00:08:02
But the paths were poured. 00:08:04
I think as you saw them. 00:08:06
Out there. 00:08:08
And they will set the. 00:08:09
Uh, November 19th. 00:08:12
Will be the date that they'll swing those on the pads. 00:08:14
And start connecting. 00:08:17
Everything. And that'll be. 00:08:18
You know, a few week process just to get. 00:08:20
You know, a month process or so just to get all of that. 00:08:23
Done. And then they'll start checking stuff. 00:08:26
Everything so. 00:08:29
And again, operational, we think. 00:08:32
April, May. 00:08:35
So there's a lot to be done on that one. 00:08:38
The other thing is that the main lift station of phase one and Claypool the. 00:08:42
The vault for the. 00:08:48
Lift station The main lift station at the baseball field. 00:08:50
Was set yesterday. 00:08:54
And it's being backfilled as we speak. 00:08:55
So that's a huge step for us as well. 00:08:58
And it was mentioned earlier there was a ribbon cutting last Monday. 00:09:03
And it was very well attended and. 00:09:06
Just a great event as we continue to have these. 00:09:11
We invite you know everybody that. 00:09:15
You know, to come out to those and join us. 00:09:17
We've got to. We've got to take our little celebrations as we go along. 00:09:21
And then can you show the third map? 00:09:26
So then I just want to provide you with a quick funding update. 00:09:28
I'm going to show you. 00:09:34
This map here. So this basically. 00:09:36
We are hopeful to have. 00:09:39
The funding for basins. 00:09:42
67 and eight, which is. 00:09:44
In the Claypool area, that's. 00:09:48
Have not been haunted yet. 00:09:49
So we hope to have that by the end of this year, early January sometime in that that we can. 00:09:51
Get the contractor turn loose and. 00:09:57
Start working on those patients as well. 00:09:59
And then the other one that we are working on is that north area. 00:10:02
Of Phase 2. 00:10:08
And that area, we already have about 10 million for that. We're looking for another 6. 00:10:11
Million from USDA. 00:10:18
To get that. 00:10:21
Moving and we hope to have that out the bid possibly summer of. 00:10:22
Next year. 00:10:26
So we're taking it in parts and pieces and steps and. 00:10:28
Doing whatever we can. 00:10:32
You know, beg, borrow, steal, as they say. 00:10:33
Not stealing anything but. 00:10:36
Right. Yes, so. 00:10:37
So I just wanted to provide that. 00:10:39
That update. 00:10:41
To you as well. 00:10:42
And to show you where we are with that so. 00:10:43
That that's really about all we had to talk about. 00:10:46
Be happy to answer any questions that I maybe you were thinking about that I. 00:10:49
Book or mention? 00:10:54
I, Supervisor Klein, you have any more? 00:10:57
Questions or comments? 00:11:00
No, I'm good. Thank you. OK, Supervisor Christensen. 00:11:02
I just want to say what a project, what a massive amount of logistics. 00:11:05
So these areas that are just in like Gray lines with little circles. 00:11:09
That's all stuff you still gotta dig. You still gotta put pipe in there, yes. You gotta hook up all those houses, yes. 00:11:13
Oh my goodness. Oh yeah, thank you for the presentation. 00:11:19
Yeah, I'm, I'm, you know, I've been following this project since I got elected 10 years ago. Matter of fact, when I showed up at 00:11:23
the meeting, they said that I was the first elected official that had ever been to one of their meetings, which I couldn't believe 00:11:27
for all. 00:11:32
Going to do for the community for. 00:11:36
Blight and infrastructure and you know, everything else. 00:11:39
I guess just one question, are you in, are you in negotiations with the treated water? 00:11:43
That's going to come from this plant. 00:11:49
And if you don't want to get into that. 00:11:51
Can of worms right now that's fine, but if we're talking within here real close you're going to be you're going to be turning 00:11:53
pumps on it's like okay have we have we have we. 00:11:58
Gotten negotiations because I know all of that is going to help a lot with with. 00:12:03
Customer costs and and. 00:12:09
You know, money back to the plant for the treated water and. 00:12:12
All of those kind of things, yes, absolutely. It's it's a great revenue stream for sure for the district. 00:12:15
And the district does have an agreement with. 00:12:22
One of the mining companies. 00:12:26
They are very interested in the water. 00:12:28
And so. 00:12:30
We have to start. 00:12:32
Talking to them now that the plant is. 00:12:34
Being put in place to say. 00:12:36
If we're not sure where you want this water, but here's where you have to come get it. 00:12:38
Right, get them to. 00:12:43
Put in whatever infrastructure they need to. 00:12:45
Take it on. 00:12:48
Yeah, No, that's great because like I say, you know, I mean it it. 00:12:49
It's been a fight getting this started. Anything new and sometimes not welcome but but I I do believe that people are seeing the 00:12:54
point now that the. 00:12:58
Of the the water that we're saving from our aquifers leaching into our aquifers. 00:13:03
The blight were. 00:13:09
Or cesspools have failed or. 00:13:11
You know we can build new homes now. 00:13:13
Yes, create infrastructure. 00:13:15
And then not only that, the treatment of the water. 00:13:18
Will help the minds and perhaps they will use less groundwater if they can use treated water so. 00:13:20
It's just. 00:13:28
And and I understand some people are on a fixed income, but you know, even the hookup that's done through the colonial. 00:13:31
So that you know they're not having to come out with thousands of dollars out of your pocket. 00:13:36
To hook up SO. 00:13:41
And yeah, and I and I go on because I think it's a great project and anytime I get a chance to tell the public. 00:13:42
You know the benefits of it, not the fact that. 00:13:49
You know, we're gonna run your outer house and all this stuff that. 00:13:51
That was. 00:13:54
History and so we're going forward and. 00:13:55
And I think it's great that USDA is working with us that as we get. 00:13:58
Progress and they're happy with the progress. I think it's easier to go to Washington and ask him for more money because it's 00:14:02
outlawed. And so help, help us fix this. 00:14:07
And we're doing a good job, so there's no. 00:14:11
No reason you shouldn't. 00:14:14
You know, keep helping us fix this. Absolutely. Thank you very much for time and all your efforts and. 00:14:15
Your whole career or life your career has 2012 I've been. 00:14:22
I think since 2012 this has been your baby so I I appreciate your your interest and and and const. 00:14:26
Drive to work with this. 00:14:35
Project even when it wasn't fun and she absolutely. 00:14:37
Yeah, no. And and on the on the flip side of that, we're grateful for the county. 00:14:40
Michael and Josh and your whole team has been just tremendous support and help for the project so. 00:14:45
Yeah. Thank you. 00:14:51
Yeah, and it was great, you know, with the ribbon cutting because the city of Globe was there, a town of Miami was there, you 00:14:53
know, Arizona water. 00:14:57
That was a project. Everybody was there to. 00:15:01
Trying to help us. 00:15:03
Go forward. So gentlemen, thank you very much for all your time and interest in anything that. 00:15:05
That we can do. 00:15:10
By all means, let us know. 00:15:12
And and I get updates on construction as as it's going forward so. 00:15:14
Thank you all. 00:15:20
Very, very much for for this project, we won't be shy about picking up the phone if we need to. 00:15:21
I've noticed that, and you know what? 00:15:26
I welcome those calls. 00:15:28
I think I really do so. 00:15:30
Gentlemen, thank you very much. Have a safe travels and. 00:15:32
And we will. We will see you down the road. 00:15:35
OK, now we're going to back up and we're going to go to. 00:15:40
Regular agenda item 2A. 00:15:44
Information discussion regarding. 00:15:47
The operational update of the Buckhead Mesa and Russell Volks landfills. 00:15:50
Including current operation facility conditions. 00:15:55
Operational challenges. 00:15:59
Ongoing projects. 00:16:01
And capital improvements and future operational. 00:16:03
Of considerations. 00:16:08
Joseph and I. 00:16:10
And see Mr. Wicks here as well for. 00:16:11
If we have questions or things, Joseph, thank you very much. 00:16:14
For for presenting today so. 00:16:18
I guess we'll turn you loose. 00:16:22
Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Board of Supervisors. 00:16:25
This agenda item is an operational update on our landfills as mentioned Buckhead Mesa, Russell Gulch. 00:16:29
We're going to keep it simple and walk through three things. 00:16:34
Where we've been. 00:16:38
Where we are today. 00:16:40
And where we're headed? 00:16:41
There's a lot of detail we can dive into. 00:16:43
So I'll hit the highlights and leave plenty of room for your questions. 00:16:45
And input. 00:16:49
I think it's fair to say our landfill has been through. 00:16:51
A tough stretch for a long time both side. 00:16:54
Sites ran on older. 00:16:56
Hand me down equipment with crews that were stretched. 00:16:58
And a lot of days were spent reacting. 00:17:01
Whatever broke that morning. 00:17:03
And turnover has been. 00:17:06
One of our biggest issues. 00:17:08
Exceeding 100% turnover over the last two years. 00:17:11
When people walk out the door, the knowledge and the daily routines. 00:17:14
Walk out with them. 00:17:18
I also recognize that. 00:17:19
Previous discussions. 00:17:21
From this board has heard a lot about the landfills over the years and not all of it is held up. 00:17:23
So my goal today. 00:17:28
Isn't to make any big promises. 00:17:30
Is to show you what's actually been done. 00:17:32
What's in process? 00:17:35
And how we're going about it. 00:17:36
So that what we bring. 00:17:38
You win some. 00:17:40
So that what we bring you is something that you can count on. 00:17:43
And from here, we're looking forward. 00:17:48
Where are we today? 00:17:51
Let me start off with the good news, because there's. 00:17:52
A lot of it. 00:17:55
A lot of hard work from the team. 00:17:55
First, compliancy. We have no open violations of the ADQ at either landfill. 00:17:57
82 came out in June on a complaint. 00:18:02
Every item was answered and the case was closed with no findings. 00:18:05
Our latest groundwater and methane monitoring. 00:18:10
Both came back satisfactory. 00:18:13
And we had no injuries within the last 60 days. 00:18:15
Second, how we're running the work. 00:18:18
The working face Back in June, both sites were compacting at roughly £800 per cubic yard. 00:18:21
Today, Russell Gulch is about 1400 and Buckhead Mesa. 00:18:26
Is about 1200. 00:18:30
That may sound technical. 00:18:31
But here's why it matters. Airspace is the most valuable thing. 00:18:33
Our landfill has. 00:18:36
Once it's used, it's gone. 00:18:38
And we've seen that in the past. Packing waist tighter means every cell lasts longer. 00:18:40
Because of that work, Cell 3A at Russell Gulch. 00:18:45
Which has projected to fill this. 00:18:48
Past June is now expected to last into March 2027. 00:18:51
That's about nine extra months that came from the crew changing how they work. 00:18:56
Not from spending our money. 00:19:00
There is another opportunity to give a huge shout out. 00:19:03
To a lot of the teams. Good ideas. 00:19:05
And contents getting put to the ground. 00:19:09
3rd the project. 00:19:11
Cell 3B. 00:19:14
At Russell golf is about 75% complete the design track to. 00:19:16
Ready well before 3A because of what the team has done. 00:19:20
Reach upon liner repairs are under way at both sites. 00:19:24
We put fencing up. 00:19:27
We will put fencing up afterward. 00:19:29
So we're not repairing the same damage again. 00:19:31
A non staffing Russell Gulch brought on three people in the last 60 days. Now fully staffed, Bucket Mesa has two openings. 00:19:35
We're actively working to film. 00:19:42
Now I want to walk through several items. 00:19:45
That we're working on. 00:19:48
This is addressing a lot of the issues that we've identified in the past. 00:19:49
And again, this is a ground. 00:19:53
Operation listening to the guys, the women. 00:19:55
The team that's on the ground. 00:19:58
Listening to the supervisors. 00:19:59
Listening to the managers. 00:20:01
And doing everything we can support. 00:20:03
So each one is moving through a defined process with the right people involved. 00:20:06
And again, I'd rather show you the process than just give you an arbitrary date. 00:20:11
Operating hours. 00:20:15
Where we've identified a gap. 00:20:16
In our hours, there's no real window before opening to inspect equipment. 00:20:18
And Russell Gulch. 00:20:23
In Russell Gold's In Not Enough Time. 00:20:24
At the end of the day at Buckhead Mesa to properly cover the waste. 00:20:27
Before any change happens. 00:20:30
We're working with our team on a communication plan. 00:20:32
So our customers and residents get plenty of notice. 00:20:35
Nobody's caught off guard. 00:20:37
That this is going to be a huge win again that the team has been able to identify. 00:20:39
That gives us. 00:20:43
More capacity to be able to do what we need to do with. 00:20:44
The compression and the compaction. 00:20:48
Staff instruction We're working with HR to classify our landfill equipment. 00:20:52
Operator positions as standalone positions rather than having them combined with other classifications. 00:20:56
These are specialized jobs, and they have. 00:21:01
And they should be treated that way. 00:21:03
We're also in conversations with HR about converting a halftime position. 00:21:05
Into a full time position. 00:21:09
That directly supports operations. 00:21:11
Full time positions keep people. 00:21:13
Part time positions cannot have a turnover rate. 00:21:16
And this is again getting some of the feedback from the team. 00:21:18
Listening to our. 00:21:22
We've completed an employee survey and we started conducting. 00:21:23
Conducting exit interviews. 00:21:26
With anyone who leaves, this is across. 00:21:28
All of public works. 00:21:31
This is where it really highlights because we're able to get some of that feedback with such a huge turnover at one of the large 00:21:32
specific divisions. 00:21:35
If we're going to fix turnover, we need to know why are people are leaving. 00:21:39
Why are people? 00:21:42
From them directly. 00:21:45
Not from our assumptions are guessing. 00:21:46
Operator pay. Historically, our landfill equipment operators have been paid on the same scale as Rd. equipment operators. 00:21:49
The landfill work includes things that scale. 00:21:56
Was never built for. 00:22:00
Working the face. 00:22:02
Daily Cover Reach yet? 00:22:03
In screening for hazardous materials and the list goes on from there. 00:22:04
We're working through that with HR. 00:22:08
And the survey and exit interview again, feedback. 00:22:10
Help us, inform us, and guide us do that. 00:22:13
Equipment has been a huge challenge from the past. 00:22:16
Used to be a challenge. 00:22:19
We're creating a path forward with that. 00:22:20
We're verifying specific. 00:22:22
Specifications on equipment we need and moving it forward through the county procurement process. 00:22:24
The right way. 00:22:29
We have an excavator in the early stages of. 00:22:30
Procurement process identified A purchasing source. 00:22:32
Of revenue. 00:22:36
And also the biggest near term piece. 00:22:37
Is something that just Board of Supervisors approve. 00:22:39
The new compactor for Russell Gulch. 00:22:42
Which we anticipate to. 00:22:44
In the December to January time frame. 00:22:46
And one machine makes a real difference. 00:22:49
Has been expressed for the team in the past. 00:22:51
And how much life we get out of our every cell. 00:22:54
Is going to be dependent on that piece of equipment. 00:22:57
Recycling I Diversion. 00:23:00
Tires. Scrap metal, Green waste. 00:23:02
Are all still going outside vendors today? 00:23:04
But we have had a solution for a long time. 00:23:08
The green waste in particular has built up. 00:23:11
Large backlog. 00:23:14
We've applied for grants to help purchase processing. 00:23:15
Equipment. None of those can. 00:23:18
Been successful as far as the grants go. 00:23:20
We anticipated that this might happen. 00:23:23
So we already had steps ready. 00:23:25
And we're now in the early stages of procurement process to move forward with that. 00:23:27
Again, this is something that was identified by staff as an opportunity. 00:23:31
It takes a little bit of time to get through the process. 00:23:36
We wanted to see what we can do with the grants. 00:23:39
But we also had a fellow safe. 00:23:41
And started looking at our operational side. 00:23:43
If the grains don't come through, how do we still purchase the equipment? 00:23:45
Not continuously going in a cycle. 00:23:48
Or turn, chase, no tell. 00:23:50
In hopes for money. 00:23:52
So looking ahead over the next few months, here's what you can expect to see. Cell 3B completed and ready to take waste. The 00:23:55
Russell, Goldstein and repair finished in the Buckhead Mesa. Repair underway. 00:24:00
The new compactor in service around the first of the year. 00:24:05
And continued progress on the staffing and paperwork. 00:24:08
Within with HR. 00:24:11
Now there are bigger and long term questions about the future of our landfills and I know those are on all of our minds. 00:24:14
We've been doing a lot of research. 00:24:20
We've had a lot of good conversations. 00:24:22
Some good ideas and concepts that come to the table. 00:24:23
But we want to run those properly through engineering. 00:24:27
Planning, design the proper channels. 00:24:30
Before we put them in front of you. 00:24:33
When we bring those strategic items to this board, we want them to be solid. 00:24:35
In the past. 00:24:38
It's been identified as a. 00:24:40
I want to follow the same mistakes and have the same misstep. 00:24:42
As I start to closeout this portion of it and open it up for questions, I want to recognize our landfill crews. 00:24:47
They've been working hard under tough conditions and improvements. 00:24:52
You're hearing about. 00:24:55
About them today. 00:24:59
They're the ones that have been knocking this out. They're the ones that have been putting this. 00:25:00
In a better position. 00:25:04
And why we can start looking to the future. 00:25:05
So again, the short version. 00:25:08
We're stable with compliance. 00:25:10
We're moving in the right direction. 00:25:12
And we're going to keep coming back with regular updates so you can see the progress for yourself. 00:25:13
Now right before I open it up to further questions. 00:25:19
In feedback, some of the things that we're going to be looking at bringing back before. 00:25:22
This board. 00:25:27
We're going to start transitioning into rolling updates. 00:25:29
So every workstation session, we're going to have those willing updates. 00:25:33
It's going to have a lot of our key performance indicators, but it's also going to have some alert. 00:25:36
Are bigger subjects. 00:25:39
That we're going to start diving into. 00:25:41
One of the first ones is going to be the Buckhead Mesa. 00:25:42
Expansion Challenge Center. 00:25:45
Besides that, the second is going to be the final completion in cell. 00:25:46
3B at wrestle coach. 00:25:50
3rd staffing classification in an operator bait. 00:25:52
Paid in fourth long term capacity disposal strategy. 00:25:55
Now those are some very big discussions. 00:25:59
That's what we're hoping to bring before the Board of Supervisors. 00:26:01
That's just preliminary. 00:26:04
I used to offer our discussions today. 00:26:06
We might adjust that. 00:26:08
So if there's any input or some things that. 00:26:09
The Board of Supervisors would like to see. 00:26:12
Or the administration. 00:26:14
We're more than happy to shuffle any of that out of the way. 00:26:15
With that being said, I gotta take any questions. 00:26:18
Supervisor Klein. 00:26:21
Thank you, Mr. 00:26:25
I thank you for all that. I do have questions. 00:26:28
One of the questions. 00:26:32
I got maybe several. 00:26:36
Circle level, but one of the issues that the roads here recently is the drainage out of eight. 00:26:37
And apparently there was a drainage pipe that wasn't put in between South A and SB. 00:26:44
And I don't know if that's. 00:26:49
Something that Mike can address. 00:26:50
But that was supposed to be in our previous instruction. 00:26:53
That sale and I don't know how or. 00:26:56
Why that was overlooked? 00:26:59
But where? Where are we at? 00:27:02
Fixing that right now. 00:27:04
Yeah, that's a great shoe. 00:27:05
Great question, Supervisor Klein. 00:27:07
So with that, you're correct. 00:27:09
There's a little bit more detail from. 00:27:10
From the past that we're trying to get to a root cause. 00:27:12
But essentially there was a decision made from the past administration not to put this. 00:27:16
Drainage. 00:27:20
And that has essentially had a negative impact on the project that's moving forward. 00:27:22
With that being said, we had a lot of good ideas that came to the table. At the end of the day, the engineer came up with a 00:27:26
solution that we're going to run a pipe. 00:27:30
Down a couple of feet. 00:27:33
I see a couple of weeks. 00:27:35
Quite the distance and then we're going to put a pump and be able to start moving it forward that way. 00:27:36
So we have an engineered solution. 00:27:41
It's very important that we follow that engineering solution that's going to be proposed by this engineer. 00:27:43
Because he's going to be the one that's going to be stamping. Assigning his name off of this into the 88, you can open it up. 00:27:47
We can open up our landfill on time. 00:27:53
So I I get that, you know, it's. 00:27:57
It's it's umm. 00:28:01
Except we didn't get that right to begin with. 00:28:03
And you know as well as all of us, everything that has to do with our landfills is. 00:28:07
Very expensive. 00:28:12
We're looking, we're looking at a lot of dollars and so. 00:28:13
And going back to the personnel part of it. 00:28:17
I know back in the day it's been. 00:28:20
A little while back, but. 00:28:23
The landfill. 00:28:25
Barriers. I'm not sure how many of them. 00:28:26
Original bunch is even still there, but. 00:28:29
They have wage increases. 00:28:32
And the rate has increased in like senior levels on their Audrey. 00:28:34
And Houston, prior to that, they were all the. 00:28:39
Little ones on the road. 00:28:43
That they seem to be doing well. 00:28:46
And they since then I would think that. 00:28:48
Looking at this. 00:28:52
That they're off opening and and shutting down times in the day. 00:28:54
My favorite of the proposal made to. 00:28:58
People a little extra break in the morning and a little extra break in the afternoon. 00:29:01
Are you implementing that? 00:29:06
We're looking at implementing that. We still have to run down a few things. 00:29:08
From an administrative in an operational standpoint, it sounds like you. 00:29:12
Huge win and to be clear, it's. 00:29:16
It's a little bit of time in the morning, right? 00:29:19
In the evening, but. 00:29:21
The biggest thing is is it allows us to. 00:29:22
Not necessarily take a break, but it gives us an opportunity to take care of some of the safety items. 00:29:25
Some of the other operational vehicle inspections. 00:29:30
Which our equipment is. 00:29:32
The legs that we stand on. 00:29:34
So it's going to give us an opportunity to be able to support those methods in the. 00:29:35
Any processes? 00:29:39
And so airspace is a critical factor. 00:29:41
In our in our landfills and so. 00:29:44
The more. 00:29:47
In my opinion is that our folks can stay on top of that. 00:29:48
And stay ahead of their daily rush because they have rush every day. 00:29:51
The more important it is. 00:29:56
You know, because that's what. 00:29:57
Cost us money. 00:29:59
Quickly. 00:30:00
And that's what we're faced with today and. 00:30:01
I see somewhere. 00:30:04
That made you more quiet, a little extra time and made you might address this. I don't know, but. 00:30:07
Are we gaining on our airspace? I mean, are we getting better? 00:30:13
Action these days. 00:30:16
And if so, what kind of extra time is that? Are we looking at if they can buy us? 00:30:18
Yeah, so. 00:30:23
To the team's credit, they were able to come up with some really creative ideas. 00:30:24
And through just day-to-day work, being able to increase our compaction rate. 00:30:28
So that contraction rate is higher than it was in the past. 00:30:33
It's starting to hit some of our green marks or our thresholds that we're looking for. 00:30:36
And we have increased the capacity. 00:30:40
To an extent. 00:30:44
What we're really looking at is we're looking at time too. 00:30:45
So to your point, super. 00:30:48
We're able to push that out closer to March time frame. 00:30:50
Giving us quite a bit of buy time, but I must emphasize to this whole team. 00:30:53
That could be changed pretty quick just depending on a lot of variables, right? 00:30:56
So no matter what, we're pushing extremely hard on our. 00:31:01
Capital Project 3B to open it up. 00:31:04
And have it available. 00:31:06
But we will not be putting trash into it. 00:31:08
Until we're completely closing out. 00:31:10
The older shell. 00:31:12
OK, now going on to tires and scrap metal. 00:31:15
And things of that nature. 00:31:20
I understand. 00:31:22
Proposal or not, you. 00:31:24
To purchase a grinder that would help grind tires greenways. 00:31:26
And things like that that could be used to tap our landfills. 00:31:30
Are you looking into that? 00:31:33
We sure are. That's one of the pieces of equipment we mentioned earlier. 00:31:35
That we're looking for grants to be able to support it. 00:31:39
But if we anticipated that the grants might fall short or not may not be reliable. 00:31:41
This is going to be a huge win with not a significant cost to us. 00:31:46
Don't get me wrong, it's still an investment, but. 00:31:50
So we're looking at. 00:31:53
As the specifications and putting that together for purchase here soon. 00:31:55
OK. And then our. 00:31:59
Scrap metal, part of the Joseph. 00:32:01
In the past we lost a lot of money in scrap. 00:32:03
Apartment and so right now today I think you have a. 00:32:07
Contract or an agreement, I don't know what it is somebody. 00:32:11
It takes on scrap metal. 00:32:14
And you looked at that. 00:32:16
And balanced it out as far as what would it cost us. 00:32:19
And the county the whole and sell their own scrap. 00:32:23
Because. 00:32:27
You know, metal. 00:32:28
Times it goes up, times it goes down. I get it. 00:32:31
But I'm curious to see where we are. 00:32:33
And if it wouldn't bias and manage the dollars to. 00:32:36
For us to be known our own itself. 00:32:40
Supervisor Klein, you're absolutely right. That is an opportunity that's been identified. 00:32:43
Over the next 30, which started. 00:32:47
Roughly about 45 days ago. 00:32:49
We're going through a 306090 day. 00:32:51
Operational stabilization plan. 00:32:53
And that's primarily focused on ensuring the capital project. 00:32:55
Per compaction rate. 00:32:59
In our QQ. 00:33:00
And what you're talking about there is something that we identified as a win as soon as we start stable. 00:33:02
Finishing the stabilization program. 00:33:06
That's something that we're going to start looking into. 00:33:08
Into some of the improvements. 00:33:10
And that's going to be one of them. 00:33:13
There's a win there that we're gonna ask. 00:33:14
Last time you spoke on that field, we were really talking about. 00:33:19
Up there, Jason Buckhead. 00:33:23
And you know, we're looking at that. 00:33:26
Requiring a lot of acres up there. 00:33:28
For the expansion of Bucky. 00:33:31
And it's a huge cost. 00:33:33
So one of my questions was. 00:33:35
How many acres do we have now that that? 00:33:38
Is, let's just say around Russell gold to. 00:33:41
What are we operating on right now as far as the? 00:33:44
Do you know the current operating? 00:33:48
Mike, what's the current operating up in Buckhead Mesa? 00:33:53
You want to come up? 00:33:57
So that. 00:34:00
We get you on record. 00:34:01
Please. 00:34:03
Well, I know that, but. 00:34:04
We just want to see your face. 00:34:07
Mr. Chairman, thank you. 00:34:09
So currently at Mesa. 00:34:10
I think in total there's 80 some acres, but we're actually the landfill itself is operating on 54 acres including Lincoln, but 00:34:13
that is leased property we don't own. 00:34:17
And then Russell Gulch, I don't know the total acreage. 00:34:23
And I don't think there's anything to grow after cell B. 00:34:27
Because I've been trying to get that. 00:34:32
In perspective, in management. 00:34:34
Hunt for, it seems. 00:34:36
A lot of years there is an option after. 00:34:38
Cell 3V. 00:34:42
That Mister and I have. 00:34:44
To discuss. 00:34:46
Excellent. There's always options. I'm glad to hear because some of our options have people with drilling rigs now from the mines 00:34:47
drilling for. 00:34:52
That we could have bought that property years ago and all of a sudden now I I doubt very seriously looking for sale. 00:34:56
There's a lot of good things going on. 00:35:03
Good. That's good to hear. 00:35:05
Supervisor client, did you get your question answered? 00:35:08
I'm getting closer, OK. Yeah, no, that's fine. 00:35:11
I just, I just didn't want to let Mr. Wick say. 00:35:15
Sit down if if you weren't done with him. 00:35:17
No data. So what I'm looking at you guys is. 00:35:21
Is, you know, do we need 680%? 00:35:25
In the front yard, we need 150. 00:35:28
You know, and it's, it's, it's the cost. 00:35:33
I'm I'm all about a lot of property. I like the idea of having a lot of property but also. 00:35:35
One as a. 00:35:41
Gary was an enterprise. 00:35:44
Project can we afford? 00:35:47
You know, and I think that's a, that's a huge question. 00:35:49
That's out there and so. 00:35:52
So I'd really like to see if somehow. 00:35:54
Turn the sound solution there. 00:35:57
Because appreciate organic demand, one or another, I'm sure. 00:35:59
What we're gonna do with that? 00:36:03
Conveyance up there. 00:36:04
Yes, Sir, Supervisor Klein will have one of. 00:36:06
One of those. 00:36:09
Or that's going to be our next. 00:36:10
Meeting, but there's also a couple of other meetings coming up on November 3rd that's going to have. 00:36:12
A little bit of this information. 00:36:17
Some of the. 00:36:19
The money tied to it. 00:36:20
So there's going to be a lot of information flowing to this Board of Supervisors. 00:36:22
Over the next week or two. 00:36:26
Just on that subject of loan. 00:36:28
And then we're going to be hitting it again at the very end of the month. So we're going to be diving in deep. So we have a. 00:36:29
Understanding and. 00:36:35
Clear options that this Board of Supervisors can give us guidance on. 00:36:36
So one more, one more question for right now. 00:36:41
Joseph and Mike. 00:36:45
Is our transfer station in Young. 00:36:46
What it needs, and I've said this before. 00:36:49
Or it needs a set of skills that transfer stations. 00:36:52
Pull those weights down where they need to be to get costs. 00:36:55
Accurate. And I think if we could do that. 00:36:59
I think that's a break even proposition. 00:37:02
So have you got any ideas or? 00:37:05
Ways that we can look at putting that in there. 00:37:07
Joseph, we sure do, Supervisor. We haven't had a couple of conversations and we're looking at some plans. 00:37:10
And once we get something solid, we'll be able to bring it to you. 00:37:16
To you and the rest of the board to be able to see what we want to do. 00:37:19
OK, Mr. Chair, that's it for right now. I'm sure I'll have more to go on. This is a good subject. 00:37:24
OK. Thank you, Supervisor Christiansen. 00:37:29
Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Joseph for the. 00:37:32
For that I got some little dog on wheelchair I don't warm at. 00:37:36
Let's just start with. 00:37:40
A big concern of mine the. 00:37:44
Molecules. 00:37:46
And one of them right in my disc. 00:37:48
But it doesn't matter. It's a concern for the whole county. 00:37:50
So. 00:37:55
We have had. 00:37:57
Problems. 00:37:59
Going back multiple years, OK, that's. 00:38:00
That's not my concern. My concern is that we don't have pollen going. 00:38:04
Over and so I've tried to come up in my mind. 00:38:08
With what some of the past failures were. 00:38:12
Because if we keep repeating. 00:38:15
The past failures, then we're just going to keep repeating the problems as we go. 00:38:18
Now one thing, we made some major changes in May. 00:38:22
Last year. 00:38:26
Or this year and that is a top down change of management. 00:38:27
OK, now I believe that those changes were. 00:38:33
Necessary and that they're. 00:38:37
That they're going well. 00:38:39
But some of the problems with the management previously was there seemed to be no planning. 00:38:43
For the future. 00:38:49
Of the landfills or no indication of planning. 00:38:50
And no warning. 00:38:54
Of issues. 00:38:56
All of a sudden I know. 00:38:57
Supervisor Herpes Supervisor Klein been doing this now for 10 years. I've been doing it for six. 00:38:59
And I think it caught all of us off guard. 00:39:04
When we were told. 00:39:06
That Russell Gulch is out of the period. There you go. What do we do? 00:39:07
That was. 00:39:11
Just really bad. 00:39:14
And it just seems like there's. 00:39:17
An ongoing. OK, now we got another call we're running. 00:39:19
Rumor 3A, et cetera. 00:39:23
All those things so. 00:39:25
We don't want to keep repeating that. 00:39:26
So there was mismanagement, misinformation, and. 00:39:29
The Board of Supervisors never heard about it. 00:39:33
And so I want to make sure that we cure that problem. 00:39:36
So the Board of Supervisors are the ones that spend the money and make the decisions going forward. We don't want to have, we 00:39:40
don't want to be isolated from all the information. 00:39:45
Were strong enough to hear everything about what's going on so. 00:39:50
I believe some of the cures is going to be. 00:39:56
To to change maybe the management style. 00:39:59
That we. 00:40:02
Had in the past and I've mentioned this. 00:40:03
Before the Michael into you too. 00:40:05
And it's just a thought. It's an idea that the landfills are so. 00:40:07
Intensely. 00:40:12
Important. 00:40:13
That we want to make sure that we don't have. 00:40:15
Any problems with the flow of information? 00:40:18
Through middle management. 00:40:22
Before it gets to us. OK, so my thought was. 00:40:23
Not necessarily to remove the landfills from. 00:40:28
The public works. 00:40:31
But to allow a more direct. 00:40:32
Approach. 00:40:35
To the board. 00:40:37
Or to the manager. 00:40:38
Without having to go through all of the management levels. 00:40:40
And so. 00:40:43
I would like. 00:40:44
To be able to hear. 00:40:46
The manager. 00:40:49
Mike Wicks up. 00:40:50
I would like to be able to hear his. 00:40:52
Ideas about some of the things that should be done? 00:40:54
As well as your ideas. 00:40:58
With. 00:41:02
With the ability to say, OK, we may have different approaches and different ideas, but we get all of the information. 00:41:06
And we can decide how we want to go forward. You understand what I'm saying? 00:41:13
Yes, Sir. OK. 00:41:17
So, umm. 00:41:18
When I understand the packing is being improved. 00:41:20
And it needs to continue. 00:41:24
And you said that there's not going to be any ways to put into Cell 3B? 00:41:26
Before 3A is completely. 00:41:32
That's not definitive, Sir. There's a couple of factors that may affect that, whether it's weather or some other kind of 00:41:35
emergency. 00:41:38
However, outside of extreme circumstances. 00:41:41
We will not. 00:41:43
OK. And you've and you've got an engineered plan to go ahead and take care of the leachate? 00:41:44
And I know that we've had liner damage in the Buckhead Mesa. 00:41:49
Landfill with the animals. 00:41:54
On there and we're working on a fence. 00:41:56
So it seems like. 00:41:58
Procurement just takes forever to get. 00:42:01
Something done. 00:42:03
So we have a lot of. 00:42:04
Expense in damage. 00:42:06
Is there a faster way to make some of these repairs? 00:42:08
Like defense? 00:42:12
You just need a fence. 00:42:13
Is that is that hard to do? 00:42:14
It takes a long time. 00:42:18
So with something that happens for a while. 00:42:20
There are some solutions. They're part of the procurement programming. 00:42:23
Different procurement vehicles. 00:42:27
And one of them, we're going to have a deeper discussion here in a little bit and that's. 00:42:29
JOC Job order contracting. 00:42:32
Also state contracting. 00:42:34
So those are some of the methods that. 00:42:36
Fast track a lot of our procurement needs. 00:42:37
It's not. 00:42:41
Procurement vehicle. 00:42:43
But it is an option that. 00:42:45
Would help us go a lot faster, OK? 00:42:47
So I guess I'm just saying that. 00:42:50
The longer we take to. 00:42:51
To get something completed. 00:42:53
The more damage can occur, which is more costly, so we need to try and. 00:42:55
Speed that part up. 00:42:59
So. 00:43:02
There was a nation here. 00:43:03
About. 00:43:05
Expansion of Russell after three. 00:43:06
Can we hear what that might look like? 00:43:09
So that is one of those items that we're going to be bringing before the board. 00:43:13
That's going to have to get hammered out first. 00:43:17
We have some good ideas just like. 00:43:19
The manager mentioned a moment ago. 00:43:21
We got to hammer those ideas out. 00:43:24
And it goes to your point, Supervisor Christensen. 00:43:26
In the past, those ideas probably came straight to this board without them being vetted. 00:43:28
Without them being gut check. 00:43:33
Without having a complete plan put together before, that's what they wanted to do. 00:43:35
And they committed and probably painted them thousand corners. 00:43:39
I want to say probably done a great deal of backlog and research in the boarded. 00:43:42
Supervisors agenda items. 00:43:46
And also I'm very familiar with a lot of the individuals that were working. 00:43:47
So with that being said. 00:43:51
That's something that I would like to have the opportunity. 00:43:53
When we had it scheduled to be able to have an expansive. 00:43:55
Discussion on. 00:43:59
Yes, and I understand your point. 00:44:01
Understand there. 00:44:03
That we don't want to throw out 50 wild ideas if it hasn't been looked at us. 00:44:05
Possible. 00:44:10
Solutions or not? 00:44:12
I just don't want. 00:44:14
Good ideas. 00:44:15
To not come before us, we're I guess we're the worst kind of holding the. 00:44:17
Holding the bag after it all, we're the ones that. 00:44:22
I work in landfills to succeed. 00:44:25
I've questioned whether or not we should have landfill. 00:44:28
But I believe. 00:44:30
We should. 00:44:31
But we need to go forward and. 00:44:32
I just see the new the new management. 00:44:36
Try and get everything where it needs to be. 00:44:39
And that's going to be a struggle. It's going to be a rocky road. 00:44:42
And I get that. 00:44:44
We're only four months into this new dynamic. 00:44:45
But information is vital. 00:44:49
So. 00:44:51
That's my recommendation. I'd be happy to sit down with you, Michael. 00:44:52
Anytime and. 00:44:56
Try and play Storm. 00:44:58
Future ideas? 00:45:02
I appreciate the answer very much, Christian. Just kind of hit a couple of your points that's. 00:45:03
That's what's really good to sound like we're. 00:45:07
We're pretty close to being on the same page. 00:45:09
Being able to have this rolling update every 30 days. 00:45:11
Meets that thought. 00:45:14
Meets that requirement to be able to have that informative. 00:45:15
Process then also. 00:45:18
This entire program that I just outlined today was from the ground up. 00:45:20
We're listening to the people. 00:45:24
That are actually pushing the dirt. 00:45:26
Moving equipment. 00:45:29
In managing it. 00:45:30
And to reinforce that with this team. 00:45:31
We've got the manager sitting right here for any kind of technical. 00:45:34
Questions or anything else? 00:45:38
But also my management style in general. 00:45:39
And I think it's. 00:45:42
Across the board. 00:45:43
These were very open minded. 00:45:45
We're looking for good ideas. 00:45:46
We're trying to find the best ideas. 00:45:48
And so far they've been working out for us really good. 00:45:50
And I plan on continuing to do that. 00:45:53
OK. 00:45:55
I've heard a lot of good things about Mike Wicks, that he's really. 00:45:57
On the job. 00:46:00
Will be taking charge. 00:46:01
And that he's working. 00:46:03
Hard to make our landfills. 00:46:04
The best in the state. 00:46:07
And so whatever we can do to help your department and get that done. 00:46:09
Yes, Sir. Thank you. 00:46:14
Yeah, I you know. 00:46:17
I sit up here. 00:46:20
And I'm responsible for a lot of outcomes to my constituents. 00:46:21
And I'm not part of the process and and in the past. 00:46:27
I've ended up with Arena. 00:46:30
At the fairground. 00:46:33
With nowhere to put cattle or anything else. 00:46:35
Extremely frustrating. 00:46:39
I do ribbon cuttings in a landfill. 00:46:41
Where it's going to last 30 years. 00:46:44
Two years later, we're scrambling. 00:46:46
And and and. 00:46:51
I do believe a lot of that is. 00:46:53
Lack of communication. 00:46:56
And I because I don't, I like being responsible to my constituents and and I appreciate new management. 00:47:00
With work sessions. 00:47:06
Because then. 00:47:08
I want to. 00:47:11
Of the process if I'm going to be part of the outcome. 00:47:13
So I I appreciate. 00:47:16
The work session today. 00:47:19
I know it creates an awful lot of questions for staff. 00:47:21
But I I I think. 00:47:25
That the board has shown interest. 00:47:27
And being part of these processes. 00:47:30
So that we don't get blindsided by. 00:47:33
Constituents. 00:47:37
Over things that. 00:47:39
So it was never brought before the board. 00:47:40
Has just. Here you go. 00:47:43
And and so. 00:47:45
Yeah, going forward, I, I think it's great and. 00:47:48
And these questions asked today. 00:47:51
Will give. 00:47:55
Fuel for future? 00:47:56
Meetings and participation. 00:47:58
Which I know sometimes having a. 00:48:01
Having to answer to the board. 00:48:04
When you're trying to get things done and they want to be a part, you want to get things done. And I understand. But you know, 00:48:06
when it all comes down, we all work for the constituents, so. 00:48:11
I think rather than me be a referee between constituents and staff, it's like. 00:48:16
I, I, I want, I want. 00:48:22
Staff means constituents. 00:48:24
I'll be on the same page. 00:48:26
You know and all have. 00:48:28
Pretty much the same information because they said. 00:48:30
What were you guys thinking it's like? 00:48:33
Well, we weren't apparently staff was because we didn't have work session so we didn't know what was going on. 00:48:35
But anyway, yeah, I have noticed a a big turn around. 00:48:41
And the landfills, and even with. 00:48:45
Management. 00:48:49
When Russell Gulch was. 00:48:50
About to close period. 00:48:52
Mr. Wicks come down. 00:48:54
And helped us. 00:48:56
Find a way to keep that rolling. 00:48:59
And so I have. I have. 00:49:02
I have a great appreciation for the way that the. 00:49:06
That the landfills. 00:49:09
Are are are coming and that we have. 00:49:11
Open communication. 00:49:14
Monthly communication because. 00:49:16
Believe me when when people can't get rid of their garbage. 00:49:18
It's a million phone calls. 00:49:23
And, and, and sometimes at the grocery store, lengthy conversations when you just want a loaf of bread. So, you know, I appreciate 00:49:26
you guys. 00:49:30
Working and and and, you say communicating with staff to work with ideas. 00:49:36
I think that's a great idea because sometimes the people wearing the boots of. 00:49:42
The ones that can show you a problem that. 00:49:46
That you don't see from other places. 00:49:49
But anyway. 00:49:52
On where are we at? 00:49:53
With OK, so so. 00:49:57
If if we still need equipment. 00:50:00
Yeah, let let. 00:50:03
Let's look at that. 00:50:04
Because if it can save us time and energy. 00:50:06
OK, let's let's wait for a grant. Let's look for a grant. 00:50:09
And the whole time. 00:50:13
We're we're losing space. We're losing. 00:50:14
Being able to do our tires or brush. 00:50:18
Which then we end up with a big pile of brush. Then we got a haul it somewhere. 00:50:21
But we're waiting for a grant. 00:50:25
For for a chip or to chip it, it's like. 00:50:27
And OK, I don't know how many. 00:50:29
Liners we have replaced since I've set here. 00:50:32
Because of the elk or whatever. 00:50:36
OK, so we're going to engineer a fence. How high does it need to be? 00:50:38
What's what's the mesh of the fence? 00:50:43
How big is it, you know? 00:50:44
We can discuss this for 35 years and the whole time the helpers standing there on our new liner. 00:50:46
And so. 00:50:52
Yeah, it's like. 00:50:52
You know we're. 00:50:54
Work smarter instead of harder and and I understand that it's easy to get behind when you've got. 00:50:56
5000 Things to do. 00:51:02
But you know I mean. 00:51:05
It's. I'll always try to. 00:51:07
Keep it, my mom always told me, keep it simple. Keep it simple, stupid or keep it stupid simple, you know, And so I always try to 00:51:09
think ahead and. And what? So, yeah, if we've got a brand new liner. 00:51:15
It seems like a fence wouldn't be that big a deal to protect it. 00:51:21
If. Because like I say, we've had to replace a lot of them. 00:51:25
For different reasons and so. 00:51:28
If offense will help. 00:51:30
I think that ought to be part of the liner job. If there's contractors like, OK, you're putting in a liner, then you also bid the 00:51:31
fence to protect it or we'll have a subcontractor bid to fix it. But. 00:51:37
I appreciate the conversation. I mean, I I can't. 00:51:43
I can't imagine what it's like to be on your side. You've got an awful lot of responsibility right now with the landfills, with 00:51:47
facilities, with. 00:51:51
Public works with everything else that I can't imagine the things you have going on, but. 00:51:55
I think no managed very much for. 00:52:02
These work sessions. 00:52:04
And. 00:52:06
Us being able to. 00:52:07
To come up with questions because I mean a lot of these. 00:52:09
A lot of things that I bring. 00:52:12
To hear it's it's not me. 00:52:14
Laying awake. 00:52:17
Thinking of what to say. 00:52:18
It's I have public meetings, I'm on the radio. I. 00:52:20
I'm out with my constituents every day. Like I say, grocery store or whatever. 00:52:24
It's them asking these questions, not me. Just trying to be creative. 00:52:29
And so. 00:52:34
You know it. 00:52:35
It's they're the ones we're working for and it's their interest and so. 00:52:36
It's great to have. 00:52:41
Work sessions. I can remember where we had like 7 work sessions. 00:52:43
A year. 00:52:47
And if the board's not helping make decisions? 00:52:49
Who's making the decisions? 00:52:52
You know so. 00:52:54
This just helps. 00:52:56
More responsible for the outcome. 00:52:58
To be part of the process so. 00:53:01
Joseph, I thank you for being here today. 00:53:05
Mr. Wicks. 00:53:07
Thank you for being here today and thank you for. 00:53:08
Helping. 00:53:11
With our landfills the way you have. 00:53:13
And if there's. 00:53:16
Any further questions, gentlemen? 00:53:17
Supervisor Klein, did you stir up anymore questions or comments? 00:53:20
I do have one more. 00:53:26
Mr. Chair, so thank you. So just what you guys are an enterprise on? 00:53:29
We supposed to run on on that money and that's what operates in landfills. 00:53:33
But looking ahead with the. 00:53:38
What we're going to need to be doing with. 00:53:41
The commanded book, he added more more bands around the national Gulf. 00:53:43
And things like that. 00:53:48
Is the enterprise mode going to be able to handle these changes in these upcoming? 00:53:51
Projects that's an illegal legal. 00:53:56
That are we gonna need for all the money there? 00:53:59
Hello supervisor, Client general, Board of Supervisors. 00:54:03
That's probably the most important question is how do we get all these ideas into play? 00:54:06
And that's something that we're looking hard into. 00:54:10
We're not just taking guidance and information from the past and moving forward with it. 00:54:13
We're doing a gut check on every number. 00:54:18
We're digging deep. 00:54:20
We're identifying source income and we're also working with our finance and leadership team. 00:54:21
To do everything we can to support not only these good ideas, but the necessity to keep the operation running. 00:54:26
So part of our fifth. 00:54:32
Item that we can bring before the Board of Supervisors. 00:54:34
Is basically. 00:54:37
How are we going to fund it? How are we going to support it from a cost standpoint? And what does that look like in the future? 00:54:39
We can bring that before the Board of Supervisors. We'd be happy to. 00:54:46
That that would be good, Joseph. That's a conversation I I look forward to just. 00:54:50
You know, the more knowledge we have. 00:54:56
More help to. 00:54:58
You bet. Thank you, supervisor. 00:55:01
Supervisor Christianson. 00:55:04
Yeah, thanks. Couple final thoughts. Thank you, Mike. Thank you, Joseph. 00:55:05
For being here today, it's an enterprise fund. I think we should run it. 00:55:09
Like a business. 00:55:13
And I think it can be profitable and I think it can pay for itself. 00:55:15
And I think that we can maybe even skip over the grant process if it's going to take months to get. 00:55:19
An air curtain or whatever, you know, and if it's going to save us money in the end, it's worth the investment. 00:55:25
In the beginning so. 00:55:31
I think that we should be really working toward making it a viable. 00:55:33
A sort of profitable business. 00:55:38
That can actually add to our general fund rather than. 00:55:41
Consume part of our care work fund. 00:55:46
And so I think we need to have that dynamic. It's very difficult for government to think that way or operate that way. But I don't 00:55:48
know why we have an enterprise fund if we're just. 00:55:52
If we're not going to run it like a business. 00:55:56
If it's not going to be an enterprise fund, we just run it like. 00:55:59
Like everything else we do. 00:56:03
And so. 00:56:04
I don't know how to necessarily get there, but I think that we need to talk a lot more about it. 00:56:07
And I'll ask one last question. 00:56:12
You said. 00:56:15
And I think that we've really helped. 00:56:17
There's not as many people leaving out of public works as there was before. 00:56:19
And can you? 00:56:23
Tell me why people generally leave. 00:56:25
And don't say it because of wages. 00:56:29
That part. But why do people leave if you take the wages aspect out of it? 00:56:32
Surgery. Christ. 00:56:37
That's a really good root cause question. 00:56:39
And you're right, it's not just about wages, it's about culture. 00:56:41
It's about how our processes are driven. 00:56:45
It's about how we make decisions. 00:56:47
It is how leadership supports its people. 00:56:49
And that's one of the things that we're looking at. 00:56:52
Supporting from day one. 00:56:54
Is trying to get the information from the guys that are in the women that are putting the boots on the ground. 00:56:56
Putting the shovels in the dirt. 00:57:01
One of the first meetings, I think it was the first week we had a meeting. 00:57:04
And it was pull all of management all the way down in your supervisors and then also going out to different shops. 00:57:07
To understand what the challenges and the issues. 00:57:13
And if I had to put into one thing, it's a culture. 00:57:15
We've got culture. 00:57:18
Was built by leadership. 00:57:20
I don't operate the same way as the old culture. 00:57:24
Yeah, people won't be willing to work for less, which I'm glad because that's what we pay less. 00:57:29
Will be working for less if they feel appreciated. 00:57:34
You're absolutely right, Supervisor. Our survey. 00:57:38
Kind of outline some of those points. The survey that came back was. 00:57:42
Extremely proud. 00:57:45
Of what they do. 00:57:47
And some of the things that you just outlined were some of the heavy hitters that. 00:57:48
A big part of our team expressed. 00:57:53
OK. Thank you. That's all. 00:57:56
Yeah, I just have one simple question right now at the landfill. What, they're only letting three at the Russell Gulch, three 00:57:58
vehicles at a time. 00:58:02
At. 00:58:08
So because of construction. 00:58:13
And limited access and the weather played a big part. 00:58:15
But right now they're letting them in as they go because the roads are dry. 00:58:18
All that, but we get a rain event. 00:58:24
The back Rd. is. 00:58:26
Almost impassable. We've actually had to close the landfill. 00:58:28
So right now. 00:58:31
Anybody shows up and allowed to go in. 00:58:32
And come out. 00:58:35
With the weather coming up this weekend, we'll probably scale it back to 3:00 to 5:00. 00:58:36
Vehicle is the only Safeway to do it. 00:58:40
OK, but there's plenty of landing for those? 00:58:43
Vehicles once they're let through. 00:58:45
We there's Kenny, we have now and we actually have an emergency area just in case something happens down here. 00:58:48
We have another area that we prep. 00:58:54
Just in case we need it. 00:58:56
OK, yeah, because I had constituents asked that. 00:58:57
No, they were the three car limit. 00:59:00
And then they asked how long that was going to be in effect. 00:59:03
And so I told him, probably till construction was over. 00:59:06
Hopefully not that long, but. 00:59:11
OK, OK. 00:59:13
And so so. 00:59:15
Winner would. 00:59:17
Are we looking at being able to open 3? 00:59:18
B. 00:59:22
And I'm not holding it to an exact date first. 00:59:24
Somebody to say something? We're looking at a month, six months. 00:59:27
Depending on the weather. So we had pre approval. 00:59:31
For. 00:59:33
Two preliminary start placing. 00:59:35
With that being said, we still have to. 00:59:37
Take care of one of the challenges that Supervisor Klein. 00:59:39
Discussed right? 00:59:42
But we can start placing trash there now if we saw fit. 00:59:43
With that being said, we don't anticipate because of what the team has done. 00:59:46
To start placing trash there until closer to March. 00:59:49
Because of the good ideas. 00:59:52
Because of. 00:59:54
Us being able to have our compaction rates. 00:59:55
OK. 00:59:57
OK, well, I I think we've. 00:59:59
Kind of been on this one. 01:00:01
Long enough off the get go, but I think there's a. 01:00:03
A lot of questions in the minutes for. 01:00:06
Typically work done for future meetings. 01:00:08
And so. 01:00:12
Thank you. 01:00:14
Management very much. 01:00:16
For having work sessions with us. 01:00:18
On these items and. 01:00:21
And as we go forward. 01:00:23
More work session so. 01:00:25
So that we can. 01:00:27
I'll have more to do. 01:00:29
But that's what we do, and I think we're behind on a lot of things. 01:00:31
So I think we have some catching up to do. So thank you. 01:00:36
Oh, very, very much. 01:00:38
Thank you. Thank you. 01:00:41
And Joseph Bennett, you've got another one coming up after a bit, so. 01:00:44
I do OK. 01:00:47
Bit of that one. Thank you. 01:00:49
OK, then we're moving on. 01:00:51
Regular agenda. 01:00:54
Item 2C. 01:00:55
And that is information discussion. 01:00:58
Regarding the status of flood recovery. 01:01:01
Projects associated funding. 01:01:05
Resources and the 220 day completion timeline. 01:01:08
Requirements for the NRCS emergency watershed protection. 01:01:12
Projects, Matt Rancher, Good morning. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Supervisor and Supervisor Klein, good to see you. And even though 01:01:18
it's not here in person. 01:01:21
We've got some, this will probably be our final report. As you know, we've been providing reports for the regular meetings with 01:01:25
the status of the of the 220 day projects. Those projects have have for all intents and purposes wrapped up. We're just working 01:01:31
through the final billing cycle now. And so I'll provide a. 01:01:37
Overall project summary. 01:01:44
From the start to finish to some of the challenges we have, especially some of the successes that we. 01:01:46
We had with her team so you can get a better idea of just what all these projects entailed. 01:01:51
So first and foremost, as you know, the. 01:01:56
The NRCS projects were. 01:01:59
Approved and we appreciate the the guidance and the leadership from you and from the Board to allow us to get these projects 01:02:00
moving forward and in the in the quick time frame that we have. 01:02:05
So essentially, at a glance, the. 01:02:11
The projects that we had. 01:02:13
Were built about $16.37 million from September bill through September 30th. There were eight different projects that we were 01:02:15
working on. Some of them were. 01:02:20
Not eligible for the NRCS funding, but but as far as our contract with the with the contractor, those those were part of it. 01:02:25
We placed approximately 20,000 tons of RIP rap just to give you a scale and just to give you an idea of the scope of the work 01:02:34
that. 01:02:37
That these 5678 projects were were accomplishing. 01:02:40
There were over 9000 cubic yards of Shot Creek. 01:02:45
In concrete placed. 01:02:48
For all of the improvements across. 01:02:49
Across this region. 01:02:51
It cost it. It took 47,000 labor hours give or take from. 01:02:53
Our staff from the construction staff, from the contract management staff. 01:02:57
35,000. 01:03:02
Equipment hours. 01:03:03
And then in one season. 01:03:05
Between April 30th and September 30th. 01:03:07
We had five different NRCS projects that were completed, as well as some other smaller projects, so it was a massive undertaking 01:03:10
with all of the complex moving parts that we had. 01:03:15
So in that some of the challenges we faced was. 01:03:23
The uh. 01:03:26
Projects were all. 01:03:27
Underway and all moving forward, right in the middle of one of the busiest and heaviest monsoon season. 01:03:28
That was expected, and so in. 01:03:34
Course of between July 12th. 01:03:37
And September 30th we had. 01:03:39
Five different rainstorm events. 01:03:43
And they were pretty substantial rainstorm events and a shout out to our construction team and to our contractor. 01:03:45
After every single night. 01:03:52
That storm came in. 01:03:53
They were able to go in the next morning and repair the damage that had been done from the previous night's rainstorm event. 01:03:55
So all of those projects were kept to the schedule and that's a remarkable. 01:04:02
Testament to the to the force that we have with Tiffany contractors, with Jay Fuller, with our crews to keep those projects moving 01:04:07
forward. 01:04:10
And also we had. 01:04:15
A lot of the areas where. 01:04:17
We had to bring the RIP rap in and that was a cost. That was a, that was a cost. It was time. That was equipment. 01:04:18
And we found ways to repurpose RIP rap from one site over to another site. So for example, we went from Russell Gulch and from Six 01:04:25
Shooter we used. 01:04:30
That RIP Rapid ice house Canyon. So we were able to consolidate and keep everything in. 01:04:35
And we had just as far as the. 01:04:40
The savings to the. 01:04:43
To the county, as you recall, we presented. 01:04:45
Guaranteed maximum prices for each of the projects. 01:04:49
The guaranteed maximum prices came in at $11 million, or just over $11.4 million. 01:04:52
And then? 01:04:57
As far as the billing to the county, we had 8.6. So there was $3.6 million that we that was returned. 01:04:58
To the county because of the. 01:05:05
The the onsite industry investigations we have the on site. 01:05:07
We had to get creative with some of the some of the solutions that we had. 01:05:12
And with that creativity and with that reusing the RIP rap from one side to the other, we were able to bring back $3.6 million to 01:05:16
the county. It was, it was a massive undertaking and and we're pleased that the projects went as well as they did. We can provide 01:05:22
pictures of the completed projects if you would like. We will certainly send those out to you. 01:05:29
But again, this has been a. 01:05:36
A pretty successful project on all things considered with the challenges that we had. 01:05:39
And again, that's a shout out to our our team Tiffany Construction. 01:05:43
Was our contractor? Was our construction manager at risk? 01:05:48
Jay Fuller was the contract manager of the construction manager on the site. 01:05:51
We had our own internal staff. There was, there were there on the projects as well. And then also the the we partnered with the 01:05:56
NRCS. They were great partners to work with the Natural Resource Conservation Service and their staff. 01:06:02
Were heavily involved with all of our discussions and there's a lot of communication back and forth. That's what we were able to. 01:06:08
Identify and mitigate the issues that came up in the in the course of. 01:06:14
Construction and then first and foremost, we thank you as well as the Board of Supervisors for. 01:06:18
Allowing us to move these projects forward and then giving us the direction to do so. So. 01:06:24
With that, I'd be happy to answer any questions. 01:06:29
OK. Thank you very much. Supervisor Klein questions. 01:06:31
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Matt, thank you for everything you've done and staying on top of this. You've been awesome giving us the 01:06:35
updates. 01:06:38
Stay in tune with us, A lot of good projects done. 01:06:42
Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Sir. Appreciate it. 01:06:46
Supervisor Christian. Thank you, Chairman. 01:06:48
Yeah. Thank you, Matt. 01:06:50
It's nice to. 01:06:52
Hear the words. This probably the final. 01:06:53
Yeah, we're done. We got through it. 01:06:56
We're on time. 01:06:57
You saved us some money. I love that. 01:07:00
Thank you. My pleasure. 01:07:02
Yeah. No, I, yeah, I think you as well. 01:07:04
Because I've been part. 01:07:08
Of projects before from NRCS where they accepted 7 projects and I think we had to send all the money back because we were. 01:07:09
Unable to do them. 01:07:17
But the thing of it is, is. 01:07:18
From those other failed projects we were able to get some. 01:07:21
Engineering and stuff done that, I think. 01:07:25
Helped these projects. 01:07:27
Go forward as well. So so our past failures helped us. 01:07:29
Get get a better performance this absolutely they did. We learned from our mistakes yeah. A big shout out to Tiffany construction 01:07:34
those those people were amazing when. 01:07:39
And the work that they did. 01:07:44
And and and staff working with them so. 01:07:45
I think it's great. I would like a copy of the. 01:07:49
Numbers that you gave out because I'm on the radio and public meetings would be nice for me to be able to tell the people the 01:07:52
amount. 01:07:56
Of work that went in. 01:07:59
I have to this community in. 01:08:01
To fix those. 01:08:04
Those creeks and things that would have washed out roads. 01:08:06
Had we had more storms prior to getting them fixed? Absolutely. We will certainly provide this to you. Yeah. And so, yeah, just so 01:08:09
I could share that with. 01:08:12
With the public and so. 01:08:17
I thank you very much for. 01:08:18
For all their success. 01:08:20
And I and I. 01:08:23
Appreciate the information. 01:08:25
Updates as things went. 01:08:27
Because under changing of management I was very concerned. 01:08:29
To have these kind of projects. 01:08:33
As we were changing management. 01:08:36
But hats off to management and to. 01:08:38
Staff to work with the contractors to get this done so. 01:08:42
Thank you very much. Appreciate it. 01:08:46
OK, we're. 01:08:51
We're back to Joseph. We're going to go to. 01:08:52
Unless, Joseph, you want a second, I can. Amy's been sitting here. 01:08:55
Patiently. 01:08:59
Do you Amy, do Would you? 01:09:01
We'll get, we'll give them. 01:09:03
We'll give Joseph another minute to sit there because he we beat him up pretty hard on the first go. So let him rest for a minute. 01:09:04
And so Amy, thank you very much for being here today and you've been sitting here. 01:09:11
Very patient and so we're going to go to. 01:09:17
Regular agenda item 2. 01:09:20
Good morning and thank you. 01:09:24
Good morning. Thank you. I'm so excited to be given this opportunity. 01:09:25
I'm going to be talking about one of my favorite. 01:09:30
Types of grants to write. 01:09:32
And that is the brownfields. 01:09:34
EPA grant. 01:09:37
And it's the Copper Corridor. 01:09:38
Which the Gila County. 01:09:40
Is the lead. 01:09:42
On umm. 01:09:43
And. 01:09:44
Globe, Miami and Superior. 01:09:45
Are part of the Copper Corridor. 01:09:48
And now I feel. 01:09:50
Who caused that? I had a moment to breathe and then I don't have a moment to breathe. So thank. Thank you for that. 01:09:52
But umm. 01:09:59
But I am really excited about this grant. It is 1.5 million. 01:10:00
And it is a. 01:10:04
You know all of our. 01:10:07
Are we're all very well aware of the buildings that fit? 01:10:08
And have been molding for. 01:10:12
For a decade now. 01:10:14
And, umm. 01:10:16
Unfortunately. 01:10:17
They're going to continue to do that. 01:10:19
Unless is taken. 01:10:22
And this grant and the the previous. 01:10:24
CC BB grant was to. 01:10:27
Get them looking. 01:10:30
And we're hoping that. 01:10:32
That's going to actually happen. 01:10:34
This particular grant. 01:10:39
Is to we have several priority. 01:10:41
Properties. 01:10:44
That we're going to be looking at and so I want to just kind of highlight this and can you. 01:10:46
And do I need to tell you when I want you to move on? 01:10:51
Wonderful. Thank you. 01:10:54
Thank you. 01:11:02
So I like pictures. I hope you like pictures. 01:11:03
So we have we have an inventory list for this grant. 01:11:13
That that we've already begun because of the the previous grant one one thing that. 01:11:18
Like with the EPA? 01:11:23
Success builds on success. 01:11:25
So the last grant that we have was for 600,000. 01:11:27
And because of that grant, when we wrote this grant, we were looked on favorably. 01:11:30
And so this particular grant that we received. 01:11:35
It wasn't a shoe in. 01:11:39
That we did have a lot more favor. 01:11:41
Well, when it went before the committee. 01:11:43
And so. 01:11:45
When we received this grant, we already had an inventory listed. 01:11:46
Started and so. 01:11:50
This particular grant we. 01:11:53
We knew. 01:11:55
Because of some studies that had been. 01:11:56
That had come again. Come about. Excuse me. 01:11:58
I am a little. 01:12:00
Taking a bath because I was. 01:12:01
Thinking I had a little bit more time. 01:12:03
But for this particular grant, we had an inventory list started. 01:12:04
And, umm. 01:12:07
And so some of these. 01:12:09
Pieces of property. 01:12:12
They're not already approved completely. 01:12:13
But they are ones that we're already looking at. 01:12:16
And have have gotten. 01:12:19
Quite a bit of work done on. 01:12:21
So. 01:12:23
I need to turn it around. 01:12:27
If you'd like I can review it. 01:12:29
OK, so next. 01:12:31
Of course. 01:12:33
OK. So we didn't have any? 01:12:35
Pictures of Orphan St. in Miami. 01:12:37
But I I went out and braved the. 01:12:40
The post and took these pictures. This is Orphan St. and it's above. 01:12:42
The Main St. in Miami and they're wanting to develop it. 01:12:47
For umm. 01:12:51
For some help. 01:12:53
Clinics and some. 01:12:55
Different things that. 01:12:58
Have to do with health and Wellness destinations. 01:13:01
And so, um. 01:13:04
They're they're wanting it to be a sure public, private space. 01:13:06
Adjacent to the Downtown Miami. 01:13:10
And this is just one of their 51 pieces of property. 01:13:12
That we're going to be looking at for this particular grant. 01:13:16
So that's pretty exciting for the town of Miami. 01:13:19
And I don't know if you've ever been up there. Have you have you ever been up in this particular park? 01:13:22
OK, Miami's kind of hard to get around. And so I found it. I felt like I went over the river into the woods. 01:13:27
But I found this part. 01:13:32
And, and it's going to be quite beautiful if if it can be. 01:13:33
Redeveloped SO. 01:13:38
So this is One Piece. This is Orphan St. 01:13:41
There are, so I said there's 50, there's 51. 01:13:45
One of the things about. 01:13:49
About. 01:13:52
Gila County and Superior. 01:13:53
You know there are four minds that are getting ready to either open new. 01:13:56
Or soft starts. 01:14:01
So when you think about that. 01:14:04
And then you look at all of the different areas. 01:14:06
That we have that are just sitting there. 01:14:08
Where? Where are the developments? 01:14:10
And it kind of, it kind of breaks my heart to go into different like I went to Safford recently. 01:14:13
And I'm looking at all of the different developments and they have that mind there. And I thought. 01:14:17
Our our community deserves. 01:14:22
This it developed. It deserves the development. 01:14:25
And so to me, this type of grant does exactly what. 01:14:28
Is happening over there. 01:14:33
It begins a process for development. 01:14:34
No, it doesn't build a new new home. It doesn't. 01:14:37
Do all these things, but it begins a process for. 01:14:40
New workforce. 01:14:43
Housing. 01:14:44
It begins the process for. 01:14:45
Economic development. 01:14:47
So that's what this particular. 01:14:48
Grant is all about. 01:14:50
So 51 price for. 01:14:51
Miami Four Globe. 01:14:54
Next slide, please. 01:14:56
We have two priority sites. 01:14:58
But it also Globe has. 01:15:00
Nothing it has. 01:15:06
On the inventory list now. 01:15:07
You realize the inventory list has already been made. 01:15:08
But that doesn't mean that we can't add to it. 01:15:11
Because none of these are actually their EPA has a. 01:15:14
A process that has to be. 01:15:18
Gone through? 01:15:20
After we get our. 01:15:20
Contractor, Yeah. 01:15:22
So once we we identify our contractors through the procurement process. 01:15:23
Then then at that point. 01:15:28
These particular properties have to go. 01:15:31
Go through it and then we have to. 01:15:33
Approve it. 01:15:35
And then? 01:15:37
We can. 01:15:38
Begin. Umm. 01:15:39
Assessment. 01:15:41
But uh. 01:15:43
If you come across the property and you say, hey, can we, can we look at it and assess it? 01:15:45
Then then we want to add to our inventory list and see if we can do that. 01:15:49
So if you know of any, please let us know. 01:15:53
So this is one of our priority. 01:15:55
Sites, whenever they look at this, they're going to. 01:15:57
To hopefully be able to put a new hotel downtown. 01:16:01
Which wanted to help her. 01:16:04
Workforce housing. 01:16:06
There's another one next slide. 01:16:08
Answer building as well. 01:16:10
They're going to go in there and asbestos as well. 01:16:12
They're hoping to use this again for a mixed-use. 01:16:15
And this will support downtown economic recovery. 01:16:18
My next slide please. 01:16:22
Our net superior is part of the. 01:16:25
Corridor and it actually superior has. 01:16:27
On it, it has. 01:16:31
20 sites that will that are already on the inventory list. 01:16:34
And it's two of those sites are one is the the Public Library. 01:16:38
And one is the Senior Center. 01:16:43
And so they're going to be looking at those and hoping to develop the telehealth room. 01:16:45
And our innovations. 01:16:49
And then one thing why I didn't put a slide up for it, but our. 01:16:51
Paragrams is also on the left. 01:16:55
And we're going to be doing the staples. 01:16:57
Out there. So we'll be assessing so that they can renovate. 01:16:59
Next slide, please. 01:17:03
So we have a lot of things that we want to get done with this particular. 01:17:10
Grants first. We're going to the the county does the oversight. 01:17:14
Of the entire grant. 01:17:19
We're going to be doing a lot of outreach into the county. 01:17:20
We're going to be doing a community involvement plan. 01:17:24
We'll have a kickoff meeting. 01:17:26
We already had a kickoff meeting with the EPA. 01:17:28
That will have coalition meetings and. 01:17:31
We have a coalition. 01:17:34
Website if you haven't been there. 01:17:36
Please go visit. 01:17:38
And then we'll have our phase ones, our phase twos. 01:17:40
And then we'll be doing cleanup plans. 01:17:44
And this particular grant does not pay for clean. 01:17:47
There will be. This will enable us to go from any 4 cleanups. 01:17:50
It also doesn't pay for renovations. 01:17:53
That it will enable this grant will enable us to go for money for. 01:17:55
For the renovations. 01:17:59
But there it does pay for a revitalization plan for orphan streets. 01:18:00
Six site reuse assessments and two Rd. maps for resources. 01:18:05
So those are all right there and I would be happy to. 01:18:10
Give you this information. 01:18:13
For if you want to. 01:18:15
Hang up there, you should have it. 01:18:16
Would love it, yes. 01:18:18
Any questions I'd be happy to answer. 01:18:20
Supervisor Klein, do you have any questions? 01:18:23
We're getting you back up. There you go. 01:18:30
You're on. 01:18:32
Yeah. No, I don't have any questions. So thank you, Amy. 01:18:34
Thank you. 01:18:37
Supervisor questions? Yeah, I don't know. 01:18:38
Yeah, I appreciate you going after it and. 01:18:40
Often improve the community. 01:18:44
Yeah, I, uh. 01:18:47
I guess I have one question. 01:18:48
The abandoned school, that's just. 01:18:50
Down the street. 01:18:52
At some point in time that. 01:18:54
That's a well part of whether it's an old building there, older building, but it was well built and then there's. 01:18:57
The big building next to it. 01:19:04
And. 01:19:07
And just see all of that there. And I've reached out to. 01:19:08
You know, like indoor growers and things of that nature to. 01:19:12
Try to do something with those old schools so. 01:19:15
I think they would be a great project at some point in time. 01:19:18
For for living spaces or. 01:19:22
Something of that nature owns that. 01:19:26
I do believe there's a company that owns it. We can find out through who's paying the taxes on it. 01:19:29
Be very nice to can reach out to the recorder. 01:19:34
Yeah, last I heard it was for sale. Pretty reasonable. 01:19:38
But it would take. 01:19:41
You know it would take a grant or someone with. 01:19:42
Yeah, a lot of money to go in and fix it up, but you know, if it's a three story building and add bathrooms on all three floors, 01:19:44
it's got to have plumbing, electrical and and everything to be able to. 01:19:50
To do something with it instead of justice, watch Windows. 01:19:56
Right slowly get broken out of it and they're right there on the highway yes it's right on the highway so yeah at some point in 01:20:00
time and and I thank you very much for all you do and. 01:20:06
You know I. 01:20:12
We do a lot of good work, we just don't tell a good story, so I would like this. 01:20:14
To be in the paper and things of that nature so so the people understand that. 01:20:18
That we are working hard to. 01:20:23
Try to help. 01:20:26
With infrastructure and and know some of the blighted problems and. 01:20:27
Things of that nature I. 01:20:31
I can remember when a lot of these grants we couldn't put in for. 01:20:33
Because we were behind in our audits and right, you know, so I'm very glad that. 01:20:37
That we got all that caught up so that we can reach out for. 01:20:42
For grants like this to help the. 01:20:46
The people in and thank you very much for. 01:20:49
For all your work on this and so. 01:20:51
Thank you. Thank you very much. 01:20:54
OK, Joseph, why not put it off anymore? 01:20:59
So here we go. 01:21:03
Two number two. 01:21:05
D Regular agenda item. 01:21:09
Information. 01:21:13
Discussion regarding. 01:21:14
Job order. 01:21:16
Contracting, Joc. 01:21:17
And construction task. 01:21:20
At catalogs. 01:21:23
CTS's. 01:21:25
As alternative. 01:21:27
Procurement methods. 01:21:29
For Gila County capital improvements, infrastructure maintenance and facility projects, including the potential utilization. 01:21:31
Of cooperative purchasing agreements. 01:21:40
Through source well. 01:21:43
The Arizona Department of the Administration, ADOA. 01:21:44
And you have a pie. 01:21:49
OK. Joseph, you're on for the second time. Thank you, Chairman. 01:21:52
This item is an open discussion on alternative procurement methods of Hillard County's Capital Rd. improvements, infrastructure 01:21:56
maintenance, and facility projects as mentioned. 01:22:00
Specifically, job order contracting, construction task catalogs, and potential use of cooperative purchasing agreements. 01:22:04
Through Sourcewell. 01:22:10
These are procurement vehicles, not projects. They don't replace our traditional bidding. 01:22:12
Or any other method we use today. 01:22:16
They add options. 01:22:18
So we can match the right tool to the right job. 01:22:20
A perfect example is what we brought up earlier. 01:22:24
Is the fencing project. 01:22:26
This is a perfect example of what we can. 01:22:28
Keep in mind. 01:22:31
Walk through this. 01:22:32
Here's how they work instead of bidding every repair or small project. 01:22:34
One at a time, contractors incredibly selected upfront with. 01:22:38
Pricing set in advance. 01:22:41
Essentially getting all of the competitive bidding on the very front end. 01:22:44
No or it's minimal cost pass. 01:22:48
When a need comes up, we issue a defined job order with an agreed scope. 01:22:51
The price before any work begins. Cooperative agreements like. 01:22:55
Source Well. 01:22:58
Take that. 01:23:00
A step further. 01:23:00
By giving us. 01:23:02
Success or access to the contracts that have already been competitively solicited. 01:23:03
Saving staff time and shortening timeline significantly. 01:23:07
For county RSI's. 01:23:11
Geographically, that means faster response when a roof fails or Rd. structure washes out. 01:23:13
We have a lot of Rd. structures that are falling out. 01:23:20
With the recent rain. 01:23:23
And we continue to see a lot of challenges that have been neglected over the past 1520 years. 01:23:24
This will allow us a more predictable cost. 01:23:30
Last, administrative burden on staff. 01:23:33
Now I want to highlight that a little bit because it's extremely important. 01:23:35
That administrative staff. 01:23:38
For us and for potential for other. 01:23:40
Departments for us. 01:23:43
We have to go through a significant process of building out these scopes and depending on the large capital project. 01:23:45
It can take a significant amount of people. 01:23:51
The set of eyes. Another set of eyes is to make sure that we're not. 01:23:54
Increasing the. 01:23:58
By just creating the scope of work, but it's a change order down the road. 01:23:59
For thousands of dollars, sometimes millions of dollars, which we've seen in the past. 01:24:04
We're able to utilize. 01:24:09
This cost structure method. 01:24:11
And it fast tracks all of that. 01:24:14
It gives us a clear line item. 01:24:16
So we know exactly what we're getting. 01:24:18
And what we're paying. 01:24:20
And it supports. 01:24:22
Us being able to build that. 01:24:23
I know one of the concerns is caution and since it's a fair question. 01:24:28
When you look at the full cost of a project, not just the line item price. 01:24:31
These tools often come out ahead. A traditional bid can take up to months. 01:24:35
And during the time cost rise, conditions get worse. 01:24:39
And staff time adds up. 01:24:43
Pricing under these programs is set in advance. 01:24:45
And tied to a local market rates. 01:24:47
So every job order can be checked against a clear standard before we approve it. 01:24:49
And if traditional bidding makes more sense? 01:24:53
It's simple, we just go out. 01:24:56
And use one of our other procurement vehicles. 01:24:58
But here's an important piece of it. 01:25:01
Whether it's a national directive to go. 01:25:04
Have a policy or an agenda that affects oil prices? 01:25:08
We stabilize the market here. 01:25:11
If chip prices. 01:25:13
Change because. 01:25:15
Another COVID incident happens. 01:25:16
The price market. 01:25:18
Is stabilized through this programming and it holds for one year. 01:25:19
We go in and we get a quote. 01:25:23
From this, we can hold that quote for up to a year. 01:25:25
We go out for a bid or we go out and get a quote. 01:25:29
We have to update that every 30 days and sometimes less. 01:25:32
By the time we get through a procurement process, by the time we get here. 01:25:36
That cost is very difficult to hold on. 01:25:39
If not impossible. 01:25:42
For them to be able to hold themselves to it. 01:25:43
So some of our larger capital projects, it makes sense to be able to have a clear understanding of that cost to be able to network 01:25:45
with. 01:25:48
The administration. 01:25:51
Network with admin to see how are we going to finance it. 01:25:53
That's how we work through all these important administrative steps. 01:25:56
We're going to be able to bring you a product that we can still stand on. 01:25:59
Versus now we have to go back to the drawing board because something changed. 01:26:03
This program also delivers quality. 01:26:09
Contractors are selected for their qualifications and track record. 01:26:11
Not just the lowest number. 01:26:15
They have a strong incentive to perform because good work earns future jobs. 01:26:16
Job orders and work. 01:26:21
Does not import work. Does not. 01:26:22
That means fewer change orders. 01:26:26
Fewer callbacks. 01:26:28
A work that holds. 01:26:29
Over time, which is where the real savings come from, We've seen this on several of our projects. 01:26:31
This is important our approach. 01:26:36
Is to use local contractors whenever feasible. 01:26:38
Job Order contracting allows multiple awards for single solicitation. 01:26:41
And some other options. 01:26:44
Now there's two different vehicles. I won't dive too far into those unless there's questions that drive me in that direction. 01:26:46
But being able to use a job ordering contract for some of our larger capital projects. 01:26:51
We're able to have a say. 01:26:56
And we have that job order contract select. 01:26:59
Whichever contractor. 01:27:02
Off the source well. 01:27:03
But we're able to say, well, we have a really good roofing contractor here. 01:27:05
We have electrical contractor here. We have this contractor here. 01:27:09
We don't have to get them on a program that is completely different. 01:27:13
Or get them connected with the Hill County way of doing business necessarily. 01:27:16
They're going to go through. 01:27:21
What we already vetted. 01:27:22
There on the Hill County process, they're. 01:27:24
They've already been vetted. 01:27:26
So they can go to that subcontractor and extract them and use them locally. So it gives us more opportunity. 01:27:27
But here's where the real win is. 01:27:33
There's been a lot of our projects, but we don't have. 01:27:35
That accessibility. 01:27:37
Or contractors don't show interest in it. 01:27:39
So if we're trying to do an electrical project. 01:27:41
We can go months if not years when I first came on board for facilities. 01:27:44
There was projects that were shelved 100 plus. 01:27:48
And they were on the shelf were 6. 01:27:50
Some of them 10 years. 01:27:53
And it was small dollar procurement. 01:27:54
We couldn't find any local contractors. 01:27:57
So the advantages if we go with Joc contracting? 01:27:59
When the time is right for the right project. 01:28:03
If we have an electrical project. 01:28:07
And no one wants to go. 01:28:09
Get local. 01:28:10
Where local doesn't want to go for the project. 01:28:11
They can reach out to someone in Tucson, they can reach out to someone in in Payson, they can reach out to someone else. 01:28:14
On a different level. 01:28:19
But still vetted to them, they take the risk. 01:28:21
We don't. 01:28:23
And we're still able to get the job done fast. 01:28:25
So all that to say, the strong control is staying in place. Every job is scoped, priced, approved. 01:28:28
The spending stays within approved budgets. The board authority is not diminished at all. This is still going to be coming before 01:28:34
the Board of Supervisors. 01:28:37
It still has the say so it doesn't change any of our processes. 01:28:41
So today I'd like to open it up for. 01:28:45
Any other questions? 01:28:49
Again, staff is looking for boards input and direction. 01:28:50
With your support, we'll work with Finance, Procurement, Accounting Attorneys Office and develop any recommended approaches. 01:28:53
It's a very flexible program. 01:28:59
Again. 01:29:01
The big emphasis is it reduces the. 01:29:02
Amount of work. 01:29:05
On staff. 01:29:06
Therefore saving money. 01:29:07
But also allows us to tap. 01:29:08
A lot of these projects that have been deferred, if not neglected over the past 15 to 25 years. 01:29:09
It also gives us a. 01:29:14
Degree of risk management. 01:29:16
We start looking at some of our larger capital projects. 01:29:18
The change order process can sometimes issue a live depending on how you build it out. There's a lot of variables there that. 01:29:21
I'll think of this from. 01:29:27
But there's a lot of risk that goes into these large capital projects. 01:29:28
Whether it's roads or whether it's in within facilities. 01:29:32
And when we go with the Jocs, there's a. 01:29:35
There's a risk that. 01:29:37
They take on. 01:29:38
And they removed that from us. 01:29:40
You know, doesn't take away. 01:29:41
Everything. 01:29:43
There's always risk. 01:29:43
But it reduces that risk and puts it on the shoulders of the contractor. 01:29:45
And for us, on some of these projects, it has been a huge win. 01:29:49
As one of the examples. 01:29:52
The courthouse remodel in Payson. 01:29:53
We had 100 plus potential change orders. 01:29:56
We would have had to come before the Board of Supervisors. 01:29:58
There's reasons for that. 01:30:01
Or past decisions, Past administration. 01:30:02
If we didn't go with the JOC, we would have been coming before the Board of Supervisors because every dollar we go over. 01:30:05
You would have had to come back from the Board of Supervisors. Not only does that take time, we would have stopped the project. 01:30:10
And we would have had cost over us. 01:30:15
Because we've seen that. 01:30:17
We knew that we need to reduce the risk and we went with the JOC program, which was the right procurement vehicle for the right 01:30:18
job. 01:30:21
We were able to completely reduce that. 01:30:24
Not only did you not come back. 01:30:26
And ask for more money. It came in under budget and it had a scheduling. 01:30:28
But I'd be happy to take any questions. 01:30:31
Supervisor Klein. 01:30:34
Mr. Chair, Joseph. 01:30:40
I've never really liked. 01:30:44
Like this? 01:30:45
It is only seem to be like it is always caused to school really. 01:30:48
The one question I would have. 01:30:52
For you, you know. 01:30:54
Big order. 01:30:57
Of our local contractors, Our local folks. 01:30:58
And trying to get on the end of the process so they could be on board. 01:31:01
They come through my work whatever, so on something like PS. 01:31:07
How would it be? 01:31:12
That maybe you could go out there and listen or contract this mixed there. 01:31:14
Signed up for this process so we can. 01:31:18
The more money we can keep in Gila County, the happier I am. 01:31:21
If we're gonna spend a lot of money. 01:31:24
I rarely spend longer money in either county. 01:31:26
Yes, here's your supervisor client. That's a great question. 01:31:30
And so. 01:31:32
We have to do it within the rules and the bounds of procurement. 01:31:35
But the contractor does have the ability to select an own contractors. 01:31:38
And because when we go at. 01:31:42
We're able to have those open discussions with them because we've selected them as a contractor. 01:31:44
So they know. 01:31:49
That the more they try and do good for us. 01:31:51
They have a higher probability of being able to continue to do projects to the GLC. 01:31:54
So any opportunity that they've had to be able to do local. 01:31:58
They do it. 01:32:01
But again, the big win is being able to have that diversity, to be able to do it. 01:32:02
But another piece of this program that. 01:32:06
We're looking at is that we can start looking at building our own JOC within Hill County. 01:32:09
I want to muddy the waters. I'd like to take all the questions first, but. 01:32:14
There's some more opportunity that we'll discuss after the questions. 01:32:17
Please adjust. 01:32:23
Supervisor Christensen. Yeah. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Joseph. It sounds good. I. 01:32:25
Would these contracts be based on a yearly with the option to renew up to three years or something like that? 01:32:30
Pretty, pretty close to Russia, but it's going to go out of a lot. 01:32:38
The like source well state contracts and they have their annual renewals. 01:32:42
So they're doing all the big processes, they're doing all of the administrative. 01:32:45
Work. Yeah, we're just tapping into that resource that's already created. 01:32:49
So, umm. 01:32:53
There would be some of those contracts. 01:32:54
You're going through a renewal and. 01:32:56
Whatever else they need to do administratively, but we get the. 01:32:58
The opportunity and the easy pick of just selecting whichever ones we want. 01:33:01
So the source, well actually is a company down that's organizing it all they make some money off of. 01:33:05
Process uh. 01:33:10
Right. 01:33:11
So it's not necessarily the source. Well, so it's. 01:33:12
Gordian, that would be doing the JOC through. But to your point, there is a little bit of administrative costs that's tied to 01:33:15
that. It's an indirect cost. 01:33:18
We don't. 01:33:21
Pay to use them. 01:33:22
So we can bring out, we've brought them out. 01:33:23
Were several projects. 01:33:25
No cost to us. 01:33:27
They have no problem doing it. 01:33:28
With high quality contractors that if we didn't use that Gordian or JLC. 01:33:30
They probably wouldn't entertain even coming out here, so we're able to. 01:33:35
Have access to that pool. 01:33:38
We pull them out here. 01:33:40
No cost to us. 01:33:41
Want a cost proposal? We need updates. No cost to us. 01:33:42
But where the cost does start to lay into your point? 01:33:46
Is once we get the contract established. 01:33:49
There is an administrative. 01:33:52
Cost that is built into it. 01:33:54
Coming from the contractor. 01:33:57
And you feel that that? 01:33:59
Worth the value. 01:34:00
Because we're saving time. 01:34:02
Problems. We're getting it done sooner. 01:34:05
You know it's worth the value. 01:34:09
We're we're actually. 01:34:10
Doing better that way. 01:34:12
Yesterday. 01:34:14
Yeah. Thanks. Mm-hmm. 01:34:16
Because basically you've got a general contractor that's subbing out. 01:34:18
And he's guaranteed annual price for a year. 01:34:23
In some cases. 01:34:26
OK. Now my next question is with our community development some. 01:34:27
That project money where you got to be VPI certified, is that something that's? 01:34:33
They. 01:34:38
Maybe be a part of? 01:34:39
Chairman, members of the board, that's that's the discussion we had. 01:34:43
We have a difficult time, as you know. 01:34:46
No local contractors are certified to do that work and act. 01:34:49
Weatherization money is about 800 seven, 800,000 a year. 01:34:54
When we talk to. 01:34:57
Job order contract and had the discussions with them. 01:35:00
They would. 01:35:04
Be open to go and get the certifications. 01:35:05
And then? 01:35:08
Allow them to come locally to see if they can. 01:35:09
Hire some of the local contractors and they would take the certification. 01:35:13
On themselves. 01:35:17
So this, this might be one of those win, win situations where we could bring. 01:35:19
Any part of that $700,000 back into helicopter by using. 01:35:24
This particular system. 01:35:28
Because currently zero stays in Gila County. 01:35:30
Right. Yeah, I, I know that because there's one company that gets all the contracts that. 01:35:32
You have no choice but to go to him. 01:35:37
And and you know a lot of the. 01:35:40
I at one time I was certified when I had. 01:35:42
General contractor's license. 01:35:45
And but, but it's it's difficult to keep up with to bid a job. 01:35:47
And so this would be a great thing for some of our. 01:35:52
Small local contractors because it's OK replace windows. It's it's a replace a roof. 01:35:55
Or AC units or things of this nature. 01:36:01
Where? 01:36:04
But you know these guys. 01:36:05
They don't put forth the timer or effort to be BPI certified. 01:36:07
But this would keep. 01:36:11
I think. 01:36:13
A lot of that. 01:36:14
700,000 to $800,000 a year. 01:36:16
With our contractors. 01:36:19
In Gila County, because there's these projects up in Payson, I'm sure, Aiden. 01:36:21
And. 01:36:27
And here locally so. 01:36:27
As well as our bigger projects. 01:36:30
But but like I say, we've been, we've been struggling for a long time on the BPI certified so. 01:36:33
I think it pretty much just saw what he said. That's a possibility because that's, you know, that's a lot of $700,000 to keep here 01:36:39
that that's an awful lot of money. 01:36:44
Not including our other bigger projects that's. 01:36:50
That's open. 01:36:53
Pretty much opened the door for local contractors. 01:36:55
If they're willing. 01:36:58
Yes, Sir, that's the hope. 01:37:02
That we could start bringing that weatherization money locally. 01:37:04
And and having. 01:37:07
The job order contracts about that work. 01:37:08
Anybody should find any more questions? 01:37:13
No, Sir, I'm good. 01:37:20
OK, Supervisor Christensen, I'm fine. Did you say you had more to offer? 01:37:21
Yeah. And it kind of goes to a perfect segue from what Michael was talking about with weatherization program. 01:37:26
Still a JOC program. 01:37:31
But the key difference is. 01:37:33
When we look at the. 01:37:36
We go to source. Well, we go to some of the other state contracts. 01:37:37
We go to the cooperative contracts. 01:37:41
Now we can't guarantee that they go local. 01:37:44
We can encourage it and they try and do what they can to be able to support that and have been. 01:37:47
Very. 01:37:51
Helpful. 01:37:53
With that. 01:37:54
The other opportunity is kind of. 01:37:56
What goes into the programming? 01:37:58
We have the opportunity to create our own C. 01:38:00
That JLC would be Hill County driven. 01:38:02
We would do an outreach to our local. 01:38:06
Contract. 01:38:08
Our local contractors have the opportunity. 01:38:09
To get in on this program. 01:38:11
And that would be our own cooperative. 01:38:13
Agreement, essentially. 01:38:15
So that would give us the ability to be able to reach out to those contractors. 01:38:17
Because they've already gone through a good process, they've already gone through the solicitation. 01:38:20
To be able to select that contractor and get them moving in One Direction. 01:38:24
Now this cleans up the process significantly. 01:38:27
Changes the timeline significantly. 01:38:30
Here's what's really important is there's no direct cost tied to it. 01:38:32
They have an administration that will come in and bring a full team and not only support us building the program. 01:38:36
But they'll also do the outreach and help us support. 01:38:42
Supporters doing the outreach. 01:38:45
Going to some of the local contractors. 01:38:47
Seeing if they can get them on board to be able to support us doing that. 01:38:49
So that would be a significant win again. 01:38:53
Driving the same concept. 01:38:56
All leadership is shared today. 01:38:57
Trying to keep as much of the money we can within county. 01:38:59
So again. 01:39:03
This is a contract that's already in place. It's a $0.00 contract. The board approved it. 01:39:04
Quite some time ago. 01:39:09
It's still standing. 01:39:10
All we wanted to do is be able to bring that before you. 01:39:12
Get your approval and your input and your thoughts. 01:39:14
And see if that's something that we wanted to move forward with. 01:39:17
Again. 01:39:20
0 cost to us directly. 01:39:21
Allows us to move. 01:39:23
Projects. 01:39:24
Fast puts money back in the OR keeps money into accounting. 01:39:25
By keeping local contractors that would be happily. Any questions with that one? 01:39:31
OK, Supervisor Klein, you're still good. 01:39:37
Yeah, I'm like. 01:39:41
I like hearing what Joseph is saying on that DLC Fire right there. So Joseph, we can create our own program. 01:39:43
Contractors lines that are local or. 01:39:51
Contractors has been doing business with this in the past, whatever it is. 01:39:54
And build our own deal right there that we can. 01:39:57
Handled within the county that that's correct. I see you're on there yet. 01:40:01
Yes, Sir, that is correct. 01:40:05
So what if we were to? 01:40:08
To really take that and look at it, that's something I. 01:40:10
I would fully support. 01:40:13
Some way we can. 01:40:15
Involved the contractors that. 01:40:17
That we need to hear. 01:40:19
And the idea of keeping a lot of that money in the county would be awesome, so. 01:40:21
Thank you. 01:40:24
We're back. 01:40:25
Thank you. I have nothing else. 01:40:28
Again, Joseph, thank you very much for your presentation and for. 01:40:30
For staff, we're thinking ahead to try to help us. 01:40:35
With projects as well as helping our. 01:40:39
Local contractors. 01:40:41
That's, you know, some of the. 01:40:44
Some of the things we haven't heard in the past, but you know, so. 01:40:46
So it's great that we're. 01:40:50
That we're. 01:40:52
You're bringing things to us. 01:40:54
That's going to help our constituents, help our local contractors and help us get these projects done. 01:40:56
Because like you say on other deals. 01:41:03
This company will come in and give us a bid Where? 01:41:05
Other times we've put out for bids and if we don't get a bid, we're sitting there without a project getting completed. 01:41:07
Or even started. 01:41:13
So this is thank you very much. 01:41:15
For the presentation today. 01:41:18
In both cases so. 01:41:22
I think if no one has any more questions, we'll go forward. 01:41:23
Thank you, Jim. 01:41:27
Thank you, Joseph. 01:41:28
OK, we're going to move on too. 01:41:30
#3 call to the public. Do we have any public in? 01:41:33
Hasten, Pastor. 01:41:36
And we don't have any public here. 01:41:40
Supervisor client, I don't see anybody. 01:41:43
With you. 01:41:45
How do we have anybody to call to the public on? 01:41:47
Uh it today. 01:41:51
How many people were with us today? 01:41:53
We have 36 people, 36 people today. Well, thank you very much for being interested in a Board of Supervisors meeting. 01:41:55
The 36 that were there. 01:42:02
OK. And so? 01:42:05
If there's nothing called to the public, I will go on with summary of current events. 01:42:07
Supervisor Klein. 01:42:12
I I don't have anything to really speak about other than to. 01:42:16
And I got mentioned earlier is. 01:42:21
Congressman Crane will be here probably in about 30 minutes. 01:42:23
And to look at the site. 01:42:28
The. 01:42:31
And talk to some folks here SO. 01:42:33
Other than that, that's all I got. Thank you. 01:42:35
OK, Supervisor Christensen. 01:42:38
Thank you, Chairman. So rallying around the flags is coming along the. 01:42:42
Project is uh. 01:42:47
Nearing completion of detriment. Some trees on next Monday. 01:42:48
And so that's going to be November 18th at 10 AM right there, obviously at the TCM. 01:42:52
I'm having a meeting on. 01:42:58
November 4th, which is next. 01:43:00
Wednesday. 01:43:03
To speak with. 01:43:05
All those involved with the planning. 01:43:08
Participation. 01:43:11
Bianca. 01:43:13
And make sure we have the chairs and the speakers and all of that. So I'm just kind of. 01:43:15
Helping coordinate all of those things. 01:43:20
And so everyone of course, is certainly invited to be there. 01:43:23
Last Friday was at the Tri-City Cemetery District, the ribbon cutting. 01:43:29
And that was great. 01:43:33
It's a good project man, what a massive amount of stuff to do. 01:43:37
And then also on November 20th, a couple days after Rally Around the Flag, we have a meeting scheduled. 01:43:40
With a few important people that will meet at the. 01:43:47
Throw head of the Bob Bear Trail in fossil. 01:43:51
Greek to discuss. 01:43:55
Access gates and things like that, as we are. 01:43:56
Getting very close to a legal agreement. 01:44:01
That is copacetic with all parties. 01:44:04
And so we're moving along there and that's great. I'd love to. 01:44:08
Wrap that whole thing up. 01:44:12
As far as the agreement goes, by the end of the year, we'll see what. 01:44:14
That's all I have. Thank you. 01:44:18
OK. 01:44:19
OK, I attended a meeting with Mr. O'Driscoll and Joe Sanchez. 01:44:23
And so at Central Heights Cemetery. 01:44:28
To discuss. 01:44:31
IGA with a nonprofit to maintain the cemetery. 01:44:32
Grounds on the 21st. 01:44:37
And it looks like that's going to go well. 01:44:40
Because we can work through a 501C3. 01:44:43
To to come up with the money that's good for the public. 01:44:46
And that Central Heights Cemetery has been. 01:44:50
A defunct. 01:44:53
Corporation, and so nobody's been responsible for it and. 01:44:54
I've worked with Joe Sanchez and. 01:44:58
And Marianne Moreno a lot and we've got little projects that started and stopped and started and stopped but. 01:45:01
But having that place to where it's cleaned up, to where you can at least see the headstones there and drive the roads there. 01:45:08
I think it's a it's a great deal and I appreciate staff very much. 01:45:16
For working with us. 01:45:20
On that because the people that are there. 01:45:22
And the people that are in the community that have people there. 01:45:24
It just is a great respect to. 01:45:29
Have that. 01:45:31
That up kept even though the corporation doesn't care, I think. 01:45:33
It's a it's a great deal. 01:45:37
That we've been able to move forward with this and the county. 01:45:39
Not really take responsibility of it, but. 01:45:43
Have been able to. 01:45:45
Coordinate to be able to keep that maintained. It was a great meeting and and I think. 01:45:47
Michael very much for. 01:45:53
Working with us on that. 01:45:54
I attended a Tri-City ribbon cutting on the. 01:45:56
23rd. 01:46:00
The presentation today. 01:46:03
That's a great project for the community. 01:46:05
For blight, for infrastructure, for. 01:46:08
Water reuse and. 01:46:11
It just goes on and on of. 01:46:14
Of that, that's going to. 01:46:16
Continue to help the community. 01:46:18
And then I'll I'll read. 01:46:20
I'll attend a Regional Council meeting. 01:46:23
On the 20. 01:46:27
And that's about all I have then. 01:46:29
Super. 01:46:32
Find you know Mr. 01:46:33
Congressman Crane. 01:46:36
Enjoy your visit with him today. Let him know sometime. 01:46:38
It you know now that he's helped us get it. 01:46:41
It'd be nice to have a. 01:46:44
Conversation with him and staff on. 01:46:45
On we're getting it working as it should, so. 01:46:49
Enjoy your enjoy your afternoon and. 01:46:54
And. 01:46:57
And that's that's about all I have. 01:46:58
Anybody have anything else? 01:47:03
Mr. Chairman. 01:47:05
Does the county manager have a report today? 01:47:08
Chairman and members of the board, just a couple things. 01:47:12
Just yesterday we had a. 01:47:16
Meeting with Eternal Rim Sports Club. 01:47:18
County administration, law enforcement to. 01:47:21
Update everybody and work. 01:47:25
And public works to on the Jim Jones Shooting Range lease. 01:47:27
We're moving forward with that. 01:47:32
Math and Public Works has been a huge help. 01:47:34
In dealing with some of the federal regulations. 01:47:37
In consulting in consultation with the County Attorney as well coming up with a solution that. 01:47:40
Doesn't cost 3 to $5 million. 01:47:46
There's a solution out there. We're moving forward with that as well as the lease agreement which expires at the end of this. 01:47:49
December of this year. 01:47:56
So we are moving forward. We're still working through some of the logistics. 01:47:57
With law enforcement access out there. 01:48:01
And those kinds of things, so. 01:48:04
It was a really good meeting and we have many more meetings planned over the next several. 01:48:06
Months with. 01:48:11
All organizations. 01:48:13
All people involved in there, so we can bring that in front of the board at some point in time. 01:48:15
In the next couple months for consideration. 01:48:19
And just to go off of what? 01:48:23
Joseph was talking about with some of the purchase of equipment for the landfill. 01:48:27
We did. Josh and his team did apply for $300,000 to FMI. 01:48:31
For a commercial shredder. 01:48:37
For the tires and and metal and and other things out at the landfill. 01:48:39
Which Mike Wicks brought to our attention. 01:48:43
And about a week ago, we were informed that they gave Josh backs. 01:48:46
Community Services Department a grant. 01:48:50
And they denied the. 01:48:54
The purchase for that piece of equipment. So Joseph is moving forward with purchasing that. 01:48:55
Equipment. So we should have that in front of the board. I believe that's. 01:49:00
Around $300,000. 01:49:04
It is going to be a huge benefit. 01:49:06
To our landfills to have that commercial shredder there. 01:49:09
So I did want to let you know that FMI has been extremely generous with some of the grants, but in this particular case. 01:49:12
They they were unable to. 01:49:19
Ride the money for us so. 01:49:20
And Speaking of FMI, I have been working with the. 01:49:22
Town of Miami and City of Globe. 01:49:26
And FMI on the if you remember several months ago, this board approved an IGA between the organizations. 01:49:28
For a regional flood mitigation plan. 01:49:36
So I have been working with those. 01:49:39
Agencies with FMI. 01:49:42
To begin planning. 01:49:45
For that, FMI has brought in a really well qualified flood mitigation expert. 01:49:46
Consultant to sort of help us with this project and. 01:49:52
I will be setting up a work session in November to have. 01:49:57
That particular group. 01:50:00
Come in front of the board to update. 01:50:02
Our activities and some of the ideas and some of what we discussed. 01:50:05
So I plan on doing that, I think every two months, I think for this organization, just to let the board know exactly where at. 01:50:10
And next, next week, on November 3rd. 01:50:17
I just want to let the board know that we are going to discuss all of the acreage and the. 01:50:21
Financing and across. 01:50:27
Per acre up at Buckhead Landfill. 01:50:30
In other words, we're going to present the item. 01:50:32
To the board, splitting it up into. 01:50:35
Two separate projects, one. 01:50:37
That's required for the landfill expansion. 01:50:39
And then we also have about. 01:50:42
227 acres I believe that are not for the landfill expansion. 01:50:44
But for future uses, so we're going to split that up by cost to give the board. 01:50:48
An exact amount. 01:50:53
An estimated amount. 01:50:55
Before we talk about possible bonds. 01:50:57
All of that information is going to be presented to this board next Tuesday. 01:51:00
And that would be it, Sir. 01:51:04
OK, well. 01:51:07
Thank you very much, I almost forgot you and I. 01:51:09
I apologize. No worries, you know, I mean, hey, things happen, you know? 01:51:12
But anyway. 01:51:16
OK if there's nothing. 01:51:18
Further. 01:51:20
Oh, request for future agenda items, Supervisor Klein. 01:51:22
Thank you, Mr. Chair. One, one thing I've been thinking of here recently and. 01:51:28
This has been working with Joseph in public works, but I'd like to see. 01:51:33
Wage structure and public works with the operators and. 01:51:38
And whatnot where they're really sitting at. 01:51:42
These days. 01:51:44
And if there's. 01:51:46
Something we need to it just does change work on whatever it is so I. 01:51:47
I'd really like to see a work session where we can all discuss that. 01:51:51
OK, alright. 01:51:56
Supervisor Christensen Yeah, things that sound like a good product. I don't have anything to add right now to that. 01:52:01
I do know that we have some competitors out there. 01:52:07
Wanting to get our people. 01:52:11
Entertain more. 01:52:13
And so we have to look at that stuff all the time. 01:52:15
OK, and right now I have. 01:52:19
Nothing else. 01:52:21
A future agenda so. 01:52:23
If I haven't forgot anything else today, I will adjourn the meeting. 01:52:27
Microsoft. 01:52:41