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Testing. Testing. 00:00:02
Can you hear me from here? Thank you, Joseph. Can you hear me in person alright? 00:00:04
Yes I can. Alright. 00:00:11
And we're good on YouTube, Joseph. 00:00:14
All right. 00:00:18
Welcome everyone to Tuesday, June 6th as 10:00 o'clock pretty much straight up. 00:00:20
Umm. 00:00:25
Call for the pledge and then we'll have. 00:00:26
Ryan Breeden of the Way Church of Christ. I believe he's in Payson, or supposed to be in Payson. 00:00:32
He is not here. 00:00:39
Is he coming there or do we not know? 00:00:41
OK, we'll just see here in a minute. 00:00:45
In which case, if that you got it if you didn't show up. Thanks Tim. 00:00:47
All right, so if you guys are following me in the pledge. 00:00:51
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:55
Kate Kim, I guess you're good. Thank you, Sir. 00:01:10
OK, great. 75, thank you for that many, many blessings. 00:01:20
We asked you to be with us today as we're in this meeting too. 00:01:24
That the Spirit be here to guide us into. 00:01:28
Listen to help us listen to those that speak and understand and and have the people understand and when we speak and we ask for. 00:01:32
Blessings for. 00:01:42
All of the county in the nation and. 00:01:44
Our first responders. 00:01:46
And. 00:01:48
Heavenly Father, again, we we pray for guidance in our decisions that we make. 00:01:49
And in these things we ask. We do so in the name of your Son and our Savior Jesus Christ. Amen. 00:01:53
Hmm. 00:01:58
Thank you. 00:01:59
OK, 2A presentations. 00:02:05
We have a presentation of the University of Arizona's Heela County Cooperative Extension Office Annual report As for fiscal year 00:02:08
23 and 24, budget request to be considered for approval during HeLa Counties regular budget process. Renee. 00:02:16
Just. 00:02:26
I do have the hard copies. I'm not sure. I think some were dropped off earlier this week, I don't know. 00:02:28
Do you have a copy for us then? Perfect. Thank you. 00:02:34
Thank you. 00:02:37
Yeah. 00:02:40
Samantha Ninja One. Her name, please. 00:02:45
Well, good morning. Thank you for allowing me this opportunity to come and speak with you. 00:02:55
I first want to thank. 00:03:01
The board supervisors and our county. 00:03:02
Support system that really provides the space and the opportunity for extension to do its work and we've received, we've been able 00:03:07
to. 00:03:12
Really. 00:03:18
Reach out into the community, find out what the community needs are, and dive into trying to address and help support our 00:03:19
constituents. 00:03:23
With some of the needs and the wants and the community. So the annual reports are pretty extensive report. So I don't want to go 00:03:28
through all of that. I kind of want to do a quick summary if that's OK. 00:03:33
And so with that being said, the University of Arizona started with a needs assessment this this past year in 2022 and based on 00:03:40
some of the information that we found on our need assessment, which is page three in the annual report. 00:03:48
Are different pillars that we provide services with. We're all addressed and touched on that. We have our 4H program, our program 00:03:59
that serves our 5 to 18 year olds, our natural, our age and natural resources program which addresses. 00:04:07
Lange monitor, range monitoring, forest health Master garden program, our family consumer Health Sciences which is targeted on 00:04:17
family support and our zero, our birth to five year old population. So with that being said, if you look at Page 3. 00:04:25
Those were those were the top. 00:04:34
5455 or 6, all of them were were blended to all those pillars. 00:04:36
And disciplines were requested for support and you know in in the community and so we want to continually. 00:04:41
Address the needs and meet the needs of of our constituents. 00:04:48
And so with that being said, I'm here to kind of summarize and also ask to support the $75,000 that is supported in the previous 00:04:53
year and continue with with the financial support as well from the from from you all. 00:05:00
So in 4H this year we had over 200 youth participate as club members, but we were also able to reach at. 00:05:09
1400 youths in a minimum of six hours of lessons, but most of them participated in many, many more hours of lessons this year at 00:05:18
all over the county. I'm sorry. That would be the next slide. Sorry I should have said something. 00:05:25
Ohh. 00:05:32
Yeah, that helps him so. 00:05:37
So we were able to reach. 00:05:40
Over 1400 youths who participated in the minimum of six hours of learning curriculum and. 00:05:42
We were. We've made partnerships and have. 00:05:49
Expanded in. 00:05:52
The physical space, which is our biggest challenge. 00:05:54
So we were able to work with the school districts, with churches, with. 00:05:57
On the Chamber of Commerce with our library systems. 00:06:01
Residents who have served or certified leaders who have been vetted in our program have opened up their house so that we can reach 00:06:05
as many youth as possible and offer programming. The Center of Arts and many other businesses and organizations have opened their 00:06:11
doors to allow us to come in and work with the with the 5 to 18 year old population. 00:06:18
We do. We have lots of agriculture programs, the raising livestock, small stock and so forth. But we also are offering 00:06:25
opportunities with robotics and our mobile maker space and which is a is getting into the technology and building some of the 00:06:34
workforce development skills that some of our kids might need for as they move into the future career paths. 00:06:42
So it aged days. This year we were able to reach over 400 youths who participated in a minute, in approximately 8 hours in the 00:06:52
classroom lessons and then a day at the ranch for their field trip to to learn about. 00:06:59
What what light is about like at in agriculture auto working ranch in town of basin and so our our club programs have expanded in. 00:07:06
We've brought back our shooting sports, our archery programs, we have a dog food program, STEM programs like I said earlier. 00:07:17
And we are just we are trying to reach as many as we can. 00:07:28
To offer those opportunities to have an adult mentor in their lives. 00:07:33
Building peer relationships and engaging our youth in community service because that's one of the requirements in 4H is that that 00:07:38
our youth become involved by giving back to the community as well. 00:07:44
Our other pillar? 00:07:53
It is in extension is our natural resources, AG and natural resources. And so we have Chris Jones who is. 00:07:54
Out doing many many workshops and just a couple of the things that he's doing right now is the biochar program educating our 00:08:03
community on on how that can benefit our forest and as well as the. 00:08:09
The invasive stink net which is now. 00:08:17
Reaching the Healer County area and spreading, and so we've had community members as well as 4H members go out on a couple 00:08:20
different events to start preventing that spread. 00:08:26
Ashley Hall our. 00:08:34
Range Monitoring agent has been phenomenal with reaching out and. 00:08:36
Umm. 00:08:42
Has reached out to. 00:08:44
466 monitoring sites In 20/22 she monitored 100 in five key areas. 00:08:46
Um. 00:08:53
And. 00:08:54
And has expanded the program. She also has been working on a research program with receding the burn scars and the flood air and 00:08:55
the areas that that have been. 00:09:00
Devastating to some of our communities by because of the burn scars and turning into the floods during the monsoon areas which has 00:09:06
been devastating so we she's worked with community members as well as our 4H program as well to. 00:09:12
Create those to make the seed balls, to get those seed balls out and to spread them. And so now we're going to be able to get some 00:09:19
of the research information back very shortly. 00:09:23
Our Family Consumer Health Science program has reached thousands, but. 00:09:31
Hundreds. And this is not only in Healy County with this in the San Carlos area, but they've been able to provide financial 00:09:37
literacy programs. 00:09:41
Are. 00:09:46
Early early hearing, vision and developmental and dental screenings. 00:09:47
Nutrition and Obesity and physical activity programs. 00:09:52
And our early reading? 00:09:55
Programs as well are provided through our family, consumer Health Sciences, our overall. 00:09:57
Umm. 00:10:04
Our overall budget? 00:10:06
Has been brought has been increased substantially due to some grant writing, successful grant writing which has increased our 00:10:09
capacity of our team. We were up to 22 employees at at one point this time throughout the year. 00:10:16
So that we can reach many, some are part time, some are full time staff, but we are reaching capacity or at capacity. 00:10:23
Because of. 00:10:31
The successful grant writing because of the good work that we're doing and and. 00:10:32
And I just wanted to. 00:10:37
And with, you know, the pie chart shows. 00:10:40
What? How much we've been able to bring in how much financially in order to to support the program. 00:10:43
And so my request is to. 00:10:50
If we can sustain that programming, we would really want to do that and. 00:10:52
And your support would be greatly appreciated as well. 00:10:57
So. 00:11:01
Thank you. Thank you, Renee. Good job and I think you'll have some questions some Supervisor Humphrey. 00:11:02
No, I don't have any questions. I just appreciate the work that you've been doing and helping our constituents and help help the. 00:11:09
Help the learning of the youth. I appreciate it very much. Supervisor Christiansen, Thank you. Thank you, Renee. Great 00:11:17
presentation you guys do so much. It's just amazing, but. 00:11:22
Two 3-4 weeks ago we had a presentation from the shooting club. 00:11:29
And. 00:11:33
I guess that's part of your program, right, is that that falls under the 4H program, right. And so the idea was can we expand that 00:11:34
throughout more of the county up into the maybe the Jim Jones shooting range up there. Is there any plans for that? Actually there 00:11:40
was a shooting sports that was a stronger program up there. At one point we lost our leader there and so we're trying, we are 00:11:46
actively searching for another volunteer leader with the whole foundation of 4H and the only way we can really sustain this 00:11:52
program. 00:11:58
Are through the kindness of the hearts of the volunteers that volunteer in the community are. 00:12:04
Our minimum requirements from our volunteers in the communities to offer at least those six learning hours of being engaged at six 00:12:09
monthly meetings and and training the kids. 00:12:14
But then also empowering them to become the leaders and to take on some leadership during the meetings. And so we are hopeful. We 00:12:20
actually have a trailer already ready to go with archery and some student sports equipment for the northern Henry County area. 00:12:25
It's just finding the right leader and then getting them vetted. We do a whole background search and so forth and all of our 00:12:30
volunteers so. 00:12:36
We are really, really hoping that we can find the right person who's willing to take on that minimum six hours, but maybe a little 00:12:42
bit more commitment to our community service or our community club meetings and and the project club meetings and get that going 00:12:47
as soon as we can because we do have some of the equipment and we are really actively searching right now. It's got to be people 00:12:53
up there. I mean, the shooting club might have someone in it because. 00:12:58
I don't know how you're advertising, but there's a lot of people out there that do a lot of shooting and stuff. So I'll keep 00:13:04
knocking on doors, we'll we'll we'll find somebody, but yes, we would like to, we would definitely would like to spend the spread 00:13:08
this program. 00:13:12
Field spots, you could throw a plug. We could do that. So yeah, there's several ways you can get it out there where people maybe 00:13:18
can hear it more. You could get on our county page in the paper and that just came out this morning, I think. So it's once a 00:13:23
month. 00:13:28
So check with the Michael Driscoll on that and you might be able to have a little more in there on. 00:13:34
On that looking for volunteer. OK. OK, we'll do that. Ohh. Thanks. 00:13:40
Good. I think that'd be a hit up there anyway. 00:13:46
But yeah, you guys are doing awesome job, Renee. We really appreciate it. And. 00:13:49
Speaking for myself, I'm a real strong supporter for it. So we appreciate you. And as far as money goes, we'll have come up in a 00:13:54
different meeting. But yeah. OK. Thank you for your presentation. Yeah. 00:14:00
OK. QB presentation of January 1st, 23 HeLa County financial data as it compares to the fiscal year 23 HeLa County budget and 00:14:08
fiscal years 2221 and 20 year to date performance. Mary, good morning, Good morning, Mr. Chair, Good morning Member Supervisors. 00:14:17
We are. 00:14:27
Running behind on reporting these to you, I apologize. 00:14:28
And we had some out of town travel and other things that kept us from. 00:14:32
Being here. 00:14:36
And timely or more timely, so we're here today with our January update. 00:14:38
Which would have put us seven months. 00:14:44
Through the fiscal year. 00:14:46
I love when I stand here and find typos of them. 00:14:48
Talking that that's always great, right? But. 00:14:51
So seven months into the fiscal year, our general fund revenues were $7,028,000 more than the same time the prior year. Six 00:14:54
million of that is from the LTCF funding as you're aware. 00:15:01
The other um increases are attributable to. 00:15:08
Excise tax, which is our sales tax on non business. 00:15:12
Placing system permits, state grants, and state shared. 00:15:15
That's the other part of sales tax. 00:15:19
Our general fund expenditures and encumbrances at the end of January were 58% of the budget, which is exactly where you would want 00:15:22
it to be. 00:15:26
They were, however, six and a half million dollars higher than the prior year. 00:15:32
And that was primarily due to encumbrances. 00:15:36
So. 00:15:39
When you encumber something, you encumber the whole expense at once and then as the services are rendered and the invoices are 00:15:40
paid, the expense spreads out throughout the year. 00:15:44
The majority of that. 00:15:50
Uh. 00:15:51
Two and a half million of the three million or I'm sorry two and a half million of the six and a half million dollar difference 00:15:52
year to year was for salaries and employee related expenses. 00:15:57
A 340,000 was aid to other governments. 00:16:02
325,000 with travel and transport. That's where your Graham County. 00:16:07
Housing for inmates. 00:16:13
Hits the. 00:16:16
Hits the books, so that's what that is. And then support and care of persons is the increase in access and Altex expenses for the 00:16:17
year overall though because your revenues were up over $7,000,000 and your expenses. 00:16:25
Are only up six and a half million dollars. You are on your. 00:16:33
Below budget on expenditures. 00:16:37
Umm. 00:16:40
Overall by about 1/2 a million. 00:16:40
And then if we can go. 00:16:45
Do you wanna just do both agenda items at once? Is that OK with boss lady? Good at that, Sam. 00:16:46
Nope, she wants to split up. OK. Alright, alright. So your question, well, I guess then I'll ask if you have questions about 00:16:52
January and then we'll go to February. Thank you, Sam. 00:16:57
Supervisor Humphrey. 00:17:02
I, I have no questions. Thank you. Supervisor Christensen. Thank you, Mayor. No questions. If you take that LTCF money out of 00:17:05
that, we're still right on track. You're right on track, yes. And we do have, we have instructions with. 00:17:11
Right. With how that should be treated, we just didn't have those instructions in January. So that we'll be going into its own 00:17:18
fund for the LTCF so that you'll be able to see it as a separate line item and not have it lumped into general fund. 00:17:24
And the auditor and our Cpas gave us instruction. 00:17:31
Students. 00:17:35
January for how we should, how we should make sure we're booking that where they want us to. So OK, just keeping it separate from 00:17:36
general funds basically, Yep. So we'll get that taken care of for you. 00:17:41
It's just not taking care of us January 31st or February 28. 00:17:47
No, that's fine, man. Thank you. Yeah. So we'll go on to to see. 00:17:51
Presentation of February 28th 23 HeLa County financial data as it compares to the fiscal year 23 HeLa County budget and fiscal 00:17:57
years 22/21/20 and 19 year to date performance, Mayor. 00:18:05
So in February, we did see where our year to date revenues in the general fund. 00:18:12
We're only 5.9 million more than the previous year. 00:18:19
Which means they were a little bit, actually a little bit lower, right, because of the $6,000,000 LTCF funding. But you would 00:18:24
expect that because of the timing for property taxes. So the second-half of property taxes comes in in April. So you'll see when 00:18:31
we bring you the next update that has March and April, you'll be able to see that that did bounce back. 00:18:38
So as of February 28th, you would expect your. 00:18:46
Revenues to be at 67% of. 00:18:51
The annual budget and they were only at 64%. 00:18:53
We did. 00:18:57
I'm sorry. 00:19:00
I'm sorry, general fund revenues were at 77% of the budget compared to an 8 month target of 67%. But when you take out the six 00:19:04
million for LTC up there, they're back down with that 64%. 00:19:09
And then, um. 00:19:15
Your expenses. 00:19:17
Or 64% of the budget compared to 67% year to date target. 00:19:19
Which is great. That means that you're a little below what you expected to expend. 00:19:24
And as in January, the majority of that is due to salaries and employee related expenses. 00:19:29
Aid to other governments, travel and transportation, and then professional services. 00:19:35
Started to come up a little bit. 00:19:41
Umm. 00:19:43
As compared to support and care of persons in the prior month and that just has to do with the timing of invoices. 00:19:44
So when we come back to you. 00:19:50
We will have. 00:19:53
March and April to update you. 00:19:54
And to show you and you can see on the board that you've got up here that 2023 which is your red bar, so the second one in from 00:19:57
the left and all the sets of columns. 00:20:03
If you compare the red bar to the purple bar. So the purple bar was where we were last year. 00:20:11
And the red bars where we are this year? 00:20:16
So you can see that jump in salaries from the salary plan that you all approved and implemented for the current year. You can see 00:20:19
that operating expenses actually are pretty flat there. 00:20:24
Let's have a. 00:20:32
It does. 00:20:33
No, it's not work. I don't know if you can see that, but so your operating expenses here and here are pretty flat year to year. 00:20:35
And then you can just see in the next two clumps of columns. 00:20:42
That those differences are mostly where we had encumbrances. 00:20:45
And because we are. 00:20:50
Being better stewards of using the tools available to us to ensure that you know the expenses are encumbered up front. 00:20:53
To make sure we're keeping better track throughout the year and that's. 00:20:59
That shows how great your departments are working with the procurement staff. 00:21:04
And that things are getting done sort of more ahead of time. 00:21:08
Right, there's. 00:21:12
Fewer last minute hurry up and wait kind of situations as Joseph explained at the last work session, right that the progress the 00:21:12
project or or process when you follow it, it takes a long time. 00:21:19
In in that short sort of illustrated here, right that that when you start the process early and it gets encumbered and then you 00:21:25
expand it as you go along and it does sort of shift how those expenses rack up throughout the year and then it smooths it out. 00:21:32
By the end of the year. 00:21:40
Thank you Marian Supervisor Humphrey. 00:21:42
You know, I I just appreciate what a system that you have in line and I'm sure it's been kind of like herding cats and you're 00:21:46
probably. 00:21:49
Not one of the favorite people with all the bookwork that passes down, but thank you very much for for being able to keep us on 00:21:54
track and and and better organized. It's a privilege to be the least favorite person. 00:21:59
It takes the pressure off Michael. 00:22:07
Supervisor Christensen, I thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Mayor. And you, you guys do a great job. So you said an acronym many 00:22:11
times. And remind me, LATCF. 00:22:16
Local Area Tribal Consistency Fund it was. 00:22:22
So two or three years ago, the the PILT money, the federal payments in lieu of taxes were supposed to increase to public land 00:22:27
counties. 00:22:31
And. 00:22:36
After Congress passed that, they then repealed it. 00:22:37
And this is their solution or substitute for that. So the solution is $6 million this year and $6,000,000 next year and those are 00:22:40
to ensure that. 00:22:46
Communities like ours that have a vast amount of public lands have some consistency in funding and funds availability, so our 00:22:53
health money is just the normal amount, about three and a half million dollars. 00:22:59
And and this LTCF funding is in addition to that. OK, I remember now. Thank you. Yes. 00:23:07
Thank you for asking. I'm sorry there was. 00:23:12
Sorry that wasn't explained. 00:23:15
It's a long acronym, but yeah, yeah, that was lattice, yeah. Yes. 00:23:17
And they come up with the worst ways to pronounce things. They do. The other one is slurp in which like. 00:23:22
Maren, thank you for all this and I guess we'll finish up this year on track, right? Looks like it. Thank you. Alright, Thank you, 00:23:29
Mayor. I appreciate it. 00:23:33
Look forward to the next go round. 00:23:37
OK, on the three public hearings 3A information, discussion. Action to consider two liquor license applications. 00:23:39
Counting number L-23-09 and L-23-10 submitted by. 00:23:47
Ohh, Sam. 00:23:57
And yeah, that's it for the transfer of a Series 9 liquored liquor store license. 00:23:59
And a Series 12 restaurant license with interim permits to operate at the Tunnel Basin Marketplace. 00:24:05
Mile marker 260. 00:24:13
Hwy. 188 located in Tunnel Basin and issue a recommendation to the Arizona Department of Liquor Licenses and Control whether the 00:24:15
liquor license should be granted Sam. 00:24:20
Ohh, yours. Thank you and good morning. Chairman Klein and board members, I stated this is for the transfer of two liquor licenses 00:24:26
with interim permits to operate. 00:24:31
The first license is a Series 9 liquor store license and the second license is a Series 12 restaurant liquor license. 00:24:36
At the Tunnel Basin Marketplace located in Tunnel Basin, the county does have an internal review process whereby the Treasurer 00:24:43
reviews the application and ensures the applicant is current on property tax payments. 00:24:48
Or all properties owned within Hula County. 00:24:54
The Health Department and building permitting department both review the application. To date, there have been no issues reported 00:24:57
for the Tunnel Basin Marketplace. The clerk of the Board's office recommends to proceed with the public hearing and I can take any 00:25:01
questions. 00:25:05
Thank you, Sam. Supervisor Humphrey. 00:25:10
Mr. Chair, I have no questions. Christians, thank you, no questions, and neither do I. So I'll open up for public hearing and 00:25:13
Lisas or anyone in Payson. 00:25:17
No, Sir. 00:25:21
And I guess no one on YouTube. 00:25:23
And no one here, so I'll close the public meeting and ask for a motion. Mr. Manchester Chairman, I'll move to recommend that the 00:25:25
Arizona Department of Liquor Licenses and Control approve. 00:25:30
The liquor license applications submitted by armies yet not draw for the Tonal Basin marketplace, Mr. Chair. I'll second that 00:25:36
having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, Sam. 00:25:43
Number four Regular agenda items 4A Information Discussion Action to approve an intergovernmental agreement between HeLa County. 00:25:52
For and on behalf of the Hill County Sheriff's Office. 00:26:01
In the Tunnel Apache Tribe by and Through the Tunnel Apache Police Department for Law enforcement Assistance and Mutual Aid. 00:26:04
For a period of three years. 00:26:13
From the date of signing and we have Josh Becker, Tim Scott or. 00:26:15
Both of you, however, works. 00:26:20
Morning, Tim. 00:26:22
Good morning, Mr. Chairman Board. 00:26:24
Level agreement is a renewal of the last one we have. 00:26:28
This is going to allow us the ability to assist the Telepathy Police and the Tunnel Apache tribe with the law enforcement 00:26:33
services. I don't know if Josh is there, but also helps in regards to any kind of emergency they have and the ability for 00:26:40
Emergency Management to render assistance and support if so requested by the tribe and the tribal Chairman for the Chief of Police 00:26:46
with the Tunnel Apache Tribe. 00:26:52
OK. Thank you, Tim. Josh, did you want to add anything to that? 00:27:00
Hmm. 00:27:05
Well, have two. Good morning, supervisors Chairman Ohh. Yeah. Just like everything in emergency, all these little things go 00:27:09
together to help us expedite what we can do to help people and when we're working with mayor and to make sure that we can fund the 00:27:14
things that we do when we do assist other jurisdictions. So all these MU and things that we can get in place help us and help the 00:27:20
people that we have the understanding with. So yeah, it's good. Thank you, Josh. 00:27:26
Supervisor Humphrey having questions for either one of these two don't have no questions. Supervisor Christiansen, Thank you no. 00:27:32
Good job guys. And and so this is just the same agreement that we had before with them Tim, basically. 00:27:39
Yes, Sir. 00:27:45
Ohh. 00:27:46
Sure. 00:27:49
Contact investigations if need be with the tribe or. 00:27:53
Whatever we have and all the certified officers and the Sheriff's Office will be commissioned through the tunnel Pecu Tribe and 00:27:58
Paula Petchi place. All right. Thank you, Tim. And thank you, Josh. That entertainment motion, Mr. Chair, I move to approve an 00:28:04
annual government agreement with the Tonto Apache tribe. 00:28:11
For law enforcement assistance. 00:28:18
And as presented, I will second your motion. A second. All in favor, do so by saying aye, Aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank 00:28:20
you, Tim. 00:28:24
On to For B Information Discussion Action to adopt Resolution #23-06-02. 00:28:30
Authorizing Helix County to act as a fiscal agent for the HeLa County Sheriff's Office. 00:28:39
And accept funding an amount of $23,093.07. 00:28:45
From the tunnel past you've tried that will be utilized to enhance the Sheriff's Office. Sarah, good morning. 00:28:51
Good morning, Chairman. 00:28:57
Thank you. 00:29:03
15. 00:29:05
13th that they would like to give the Sheriff's Office another twenty $3093.07. 00:29:08
So with that, I'll take any questions. Alright, Sir, Supervisor Humphrey. 00:29:16
I I have no questions. Supervisor questions. Thank you. Sarah, no questions. Thanks Sarah. I think we're good with that I'd 00:29:21
entertain a motion, Mr. Chair moved to adopt resolution #23-06-02. 00:29:27
Mr. Chair, I'll second that having a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. 00:29:33
On to see information, discussion, action. 00:29:41
To approve a collection agreement between the Arizona Game and Fish Department and the Heela County Sheriff's Office. 00:29:45
In the amount of $92,000 for the purchase of a 23 Ranger Bay patrol boat equipped with. 00:29:51
A Mercury 250 Pro associated police package and a trailer. And Sarah, I guess you're just standing for Dennis. 00:29:58
Yeah. 00:30:06
All right. 00:30:07
Shrinky Dinks thing to report replace our aging scopes. We have two boats that are aging both. 00:30:17
And bought and the 2006, they're both Tritons. So we were notified that the Arizona Game and Fish would provide us 92,000 to 00:30:25
replace one of those, but that'll take any questions. 00:30:32
Thank you, Sir. Supervisor Humphrey. Yeah, on the boat that's being replaced, will that be optioned off? 00:30:40
Yeah, more than likely I we need to nail down exactly what we want to do and and basically how we want to do it. But absolutely 00:30:47
we'll be working with finance on all of the procurement regulations we have. 00:30:54
No further questions. OK, Supervisor questions and thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Sarah, it doesn't look like you're getting 00:31:03
any fishing tackle with this. 00:31:08
No. 00:31:14
Ohh OK. 00:31:17
Thank you, Sarah. I have no questions. 00:31:18
Sir, I'm good. Thank you. So with that, I'd entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, I move to approve an Arizona Game and Fish Department 00:31:21
collection agreement in the amount of 92,000 as presented. 00:31:26
And then a second all in favor do so by saying aye aye, aye aye Motion carries on to the information discussion action. 00:31:33
To approve amendment number one to Service Agreement number 03032023. 00:31:42
With Earth Earthquest Plumbing and Pumping LLC, which increases the agreement amount by 52,000. 00:31:49
$757.44 for a new not to exceed agreement total of $215,315.44 and Alex. 00:31:56
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you board. So this. 00:32:12
Is a request to Amanda. 00:32:16
Amount that was already approved for the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat Wastewater System in the amount of $52,757.44. 00:32:19
I have it broken down into basically 4. 00:32:28
Sections of what happened. So first the system is existing. System was 30 years old. 00:32:31
And when we started breaking ground, we discovered things that weren't on the plans. 00:32:37
So that's our first section and the cost for those repairs is 7028 dollars. 00:32:41
The next two sections, as you guys know, this has been a wet winter and we discovered many things with all that groundwater that 00:32:48
didn't exist beforehand, mainly that. 00:32:52
At standard operating level are tanks. 00:32:58
Seemed to be watertight, however, once the groundwater rose to both. 00:33:00
Yeah. 00:33:05
Failures in the tank. We just determined that the risers in. 00:33:06
Two of our tanks didn't actually hold water like they should, and therefore whenever. 00:33:10
The water level rises that high. Our pumps would then be constantly pumping up to the lagoon and. 00:33:16
Are conserved, then burnout and our Libyans would then be. 00:33:21
Over 4 to their capacity. 00:33:24
So that's our next. 00:33:27
Cost there of 19,176 dollars. 00:33:30
The next thing is. 00:33:35
When they started putting in the last tank, the excavator sunk up to its tracks. 00:33:37
And ended up creating some damage to the ground that needed to be repaired. 00:33:43
Now I've talked to four other contractors and just because of the wet winter. 00:33:49
For the contractors with over 100 years of experience between all of them have come up with. 00:33:54
Similar problems where either their equipment sink in the ground was they were doing their own projects. 00:33:58
Or there's tanks in the. 00:34:03
Rising out of the ground due to the buoyancy of the tanks, so. 00:34:06
This is just an unfortunate fact that we. 00:34:10
Came across in that because of this wet winter. 00:34:12
Equipment ended up sinking under the ground, and that was unexpected. 00:34:16
Our next cost is there was a. 00:34:20
Misunderstanding between the function of the wastewater system and the function of the facility. And so we were asked to move the 00:34:24
RV dump station away from the administration building and this costs of $9225.00 is associated with moving that. 00:34:32
Always water dump station away from the admin building down so it's further away and out of sight and there's costs associated 00:34:41
with that move as well as the. 00:34:45
For the plumbing in the new water line to wash down the RV dump station. 00:34:50
And then our final amount there for $2894.55. 00:34:55
When we first fired up the pumps. 00:35:01
We ended up springing a leak in the transport line and that needed to be. 00:35:04
Addressed. 00:35:07
Thank you, Alex. You ready for questions? I'm ready for questions right on Supervisor Humphrey. 00:35:11
Yeah, I I have no questions. I just you know it's just one of those things when when things get abandoned and set for a long time 00:35:18
it it creates issues as well so. 00:35:23
Not only is it is it all but but it's also been abandoned for quite some time. 00:35:28
Which doesn't help things. But but going forward, um, it's it's good to see these things getting taken care of. 00:35:34
So that that facility can be used. 00:35:43
As it's supposed to. 00:35:46
No further questions. Supervisor Christensen. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Alex. So. 00:35:48
Do you think this this will be? 00:35:53
Everything you need then to make that system complete 100%. 00:35:56
So yes, from all of this we were able to get the effluent up into the lagoons from all three limitations, which means it's 00:36:00
functioning correctly. There is an issue with. 00:36:05
The flow coming into the lagoons for those sized pumps, there should be a greater flow than we are seeing up there. So Tim and I 00:36:11
are still trying to diagnose why that is. 00:36:15
Why that is, But other than that, the system itself will work OK. 00:36:21
Thank you. 00:36:25
Alex, thanks for what you're doing with that. I mean, it is tough times, right? When this system like that, especially as 00:36:28
intricate as that system is and it's set for as long as it has, things do have a tendency to dry up and quit. But there was an 00:36:34
issue on that when it came to the winner, winner moisture. 00:36:40
Yeah, there was no surprise there. None at all, You know, and and. 00:36:46
And when it came to contractors and my comments to them in the same way, it's like it's all groundwater, so. 00:36:51
But. 00:36:58
The one issue that I do have have with with everything is the RV dump and I don't know who come up with that. 00:36:59
But. 00:37:08
That hopefully will be addressed if there ever is another time when something like that has to be put in. 00:37:09
And what these guys don't understand is that particular RV tank. 00:37:15
Was located right in front of the main office building. 00:37:20
In a way such we're gonna have to cut a little bit of pavement, we're gonna have to trench across pavement and we're going to put 00:37:25
it right there. And the idea for this particular tank. 00:37:30
We're still in. Arby's pulled in to stay at the site. 00:37:35
They would flush their tanks out into this holding tank that didn't go anywhere it would have to be. 00:37:39
Pumped once it's filled up. 00:37:44
But the problem I have Alex and this is something to really keep in mind. 00:37:46
When those RV's leave that tank and they go to the RV. 00:37:51
They're gonna dump those chemicals back into their holding tanks and they're going to use them and they're going to pull their 00:37:56
handle on it when they leave and flush all that stuff in our system. 00:38:01
So my whole thing on that was we spent $10,000 for nothing on that deal. 00:38:06
And that's my issue. And I could I I voiced that to the contractor. The one thing was, was that the whole and the tank. 00:38:11
And everything had not been purchased yet. 00:38:19
Before we relocated it. 00:38:22
Right. And he still had to run a water line, which he would have to run one there across that payment even. 00:38:25
As it was, anyway. 00:38:31
But this one was a little longer. I could see a little bit more of a charge on that. 00:38:33
But as far as digging and actually putting that tank in place. 00:38:37
There shouldn't have been an extra charge because there wasn't a tank put in place that had to be moved. 00:38:42
Correct. So that charge is strictly for the water line for labor and materials and it averaged out to $13. If you look online 00:38:48
across the state of Arizona right now that's averaging about 25. So that should give us a pretty good deal on that. So I'm just 00:38:54
making sure that because that whole, that whole particular tank system has been a thorn in my side for ever since I stood there 00:39:00
and they told me about it, so. 00:39:06
Thank you for everything I I do understand the. 00:39:12
The part about some things will come up and and whatnot and I hope that you guys are in touch with the Forest Service out Phoenix 00:39:16
on that system. 00:39:21
A system was totally engineered. 00:39:26
And blueprinted and hopefully you've got those blueprints and everything on that. 00:39:29
We do. As I said, they're 30 years old, though. It don't matter. That's what's in the ground. 00:39:34
You know I'm saying. 00:39:41
And so and not. But I do understand that things give out and there's there's failures too, but as far as like restrictions or 00:39:42
whatnot. 00:39:46
Bottlenecks in that system. That system should be showing it. 00:39:52
On those blueprints. 00:39:55
And so I'm just saying, in my opinion, in my opinion, only for us to spend any more dollars on this system. 00:39:57
They're probably a good reason, because I'm not going to vote for it next time. 00:40:04
OK, Josh. 00:40:07
No, I'm afraid to say what I wanted to say. One of the things I wanted to bring up is that we are going to go out to the 00:40:09
procurement process to look for maintenance and inspections on this site for what was it that we want to do within your three to 00:40:14
five years. 00:40:18
Anytime you're pumping sewer up over a mountain, there's there's going to be issues only the government come up to come up with 00:40:54
the deal like this. So I get it and to have somebody that would be on contract to deal with that would be awesome because there's 00:40:58
none of us. 00:41:03
That they're gonna be able to do that. I mean the simple collections or the to look in at the pump to make sure it's still 00:41:09
pumping, that's fine. But anything more and that's going to be a little tough, so that would be awesome. 00:41:14
Thank you, Alex. 00:41:21
But that would entertain a motion. 00:41:22
Mr. Chairman, I'll move to approve amendment number one to Services Agreement number 03032023. 00:41:24
With Earthquest Plumbing and Pumping LLC in the amount of $52,757.44 as presented. 00:41:33
Mr. Chair, I'll second that motion having a motion, and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye, aye. 00:41:43
Aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, Alex. Thank you. 00:41:49
Okay, E Information Discussion Action to Approve Amendment number One to Service Agreement number 012523. 00:41:55
With Matelli Measurement Group incorporated, which increases their agreement amount by $7033.54. 00:42:04
For a new not to exceed agreement total of $299,513.17. 00:42:13
And extend the agreement term to June 15th. Homer, good morning, Sir. Good morning. 00:42:21
Chairman and board member, Board members, the action before you is to approve that amendment number one adding 7000. 00:42:27
$33.54 to the to the contract as it exists today. 00:42:35
It's a. It's a small #7034, but we wanted to explain the puts in the takes OK. 00:42:41
What we're what we're not utilizing in the original contract that's camera that we were going to place. Those are going to be done 00:42:48
in house. 00:42:51
Um. 00:42:55
And the other one is contingency. The contingency is still intact. We really haven't used it. 00:42:56
But because this total contract exceeds that contingency, we have reason to come to the board, OK. The things that we're adding is 00:43:01
excavation. 00:43:05
We we needed excavation to put the scales and we kind of anticipated that and we had done a geotech report on the soil 00:43:10
anticipating that it was going to be inadequate and in fact it was. And so additional material had to be imported in to be able to 00:43:16
compact it to the degree that they wanted to. The scales are stable. 00:43:22
The other one is a stem wall. That one we had not anticipated. We had planned on doing the stem wall foundation for the scale 00:43:29
house, not the scales. This is an additional scope of work. 00:43:34
Added to the contract, The contractor was there. We felt he would do it for a right price. We were we did not have the resources 00:43:40
to do the work and we elected to award that work to the contractor. 00:43:45
And so those are the two things that are added. 00:43:52
They exceed the contingency amount by 7000. They exceed the contract amount by the $7033. 00:43:54
And therefore, we're asking the board to the board to approve this amendment. 00:44:03
Any questions? Thank you. Humeral supervisor, Humphrey. 00:44:08
No questions other than I'm just glad this is moving forward as we can and the contractors there. Go ahead and. 00:44:13
Do it because we we need to get our landfill back. 00:44:20
The way it needs to be so. 00:44:24
I have no questions. Mr. Supervisor Christensen. Thank you. Chairman. Thank you, Humira. So we're out of contingency and so. 00:44:26
Umm. 00:44:35
If there is any additional changes or overruns, then you'll be before us again. 00:44:36
We. 00:44:41
Are so far ahead on this project. 00:44:42
That we don't expect or or or will accept. 00:44:45
Any other additional costs? 00:44:50
OK. We're at that point we're we're done with, we're done with that project. Thank you, ma'am. 00:44:51
Humeral thanks. I appreciate that. I just had one quick question on the skills and scale house. I see the scale house setting at 00:44:57
the sign. 00:45:00
Building on facilities. 00:45:04
Is it ready to go to be set up up there? 00:45:06
Umm. 00:45:09
Melanie, could you help me? 00:45:10
With that question. 00:45:12
Melanie, thank you. Good morning. Mr. Chair and members of the Board. To answer your question, yes. 00:45:17
It's going in this week. It hasn't been drywalled, but it won't be drywall till it's set on its foundation. But it's going in this 00:45:23
week. 00:45:26
Cool. 00:45:30
To the best of my knowledge. 00:45:31
That was easy. Yeah. Thank you so much for that. Thank you, Homer, with that other antenna motion. 00:45:34
Mr. Chair, I move to approve amendment number one to service agreement number 1/2. 00:45:39
OHH 012523. 00:45:45
Uh, with my shelling measurement group incorporated in the amount of $7033.54. 00:45:48
And extend the agreement to June 15th, 2023 as presented. I will second. 00:45:55
Having a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you. Home, Merrill. On to F 00:46:01
information, discussion, action. 00:46:06
To approve agreement number 05102023. 00:46:11
An economic development grant with Tunnel Rim Search and Rescue Squad incorporated in the amount of $39,182.37. 00:46:15
Which the Board of Supervisors has determined to be for the benefit of the public and Supervisor Christensen. This is yours. Thank 00:46:27
you, Mr. Chairman, Colonel Research and Rescue. 00:46:32
Is. 00:46:39
An outfit that works all around he LA County. 00:46:41
And works closely with the Sheriff's Department and is very outstanding in what they offer and are able to do. 00:46:45
I would consider them not the best just in the state, but in the whole southwest and so. 00:46:53
Request of or constituent funds of my own. 00:46:59
For several upgrades and projects consisting of. 00:47:05
A drone team that you have itemized in your. 00:47:11
Packet and also a rope team portion and also a Swift water team. 00:47:16
Portion as well as a canine area. 00:47:24
Team. 00:47:28
Portion which totals to $39,182. 00:47:29
And $0.30. 00:47:34
And so, me personally. Of course I feel it. 00:47:36
Definitely benefits the public and Healer County. They've also agreed to. 00:47:39
Put signage on some of their equipment and their vehicle stating that. 00:47:44
That they are supported by Hilla County. 00:47:49
Any questions? Thank you, Steve. Supervisor Humphrey. 00:47:53
No questions. 00:47:57
So they are a good, good unit and we do use them a lot. 00:47:59
So I really I. 00:48:04
Since I'm spending your money today, I'm good. 00:48:05
Of that, very good. Thanks again the motion. So I'll make the motion to approve agreement number 05102023, The Total Research and 00:48:08
Rescue Squad incorporated in the amount of $39,182.37. 00:48:16
Being that your money. Our second, having a motion detector. And by the way. Yeah, determined by the For the benefit of the 00:48:25
public. Good. Good catch, Jessica. OK, so having a motion in a second, all in favor. Say aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries. 00:48:34
Alright, the information discussion action to approve Amendment #3 to an intergovernmental agreement between HeLa County and 00:48:43
Pernell County, whereby Pinell County will continue providing medical examiner services. 00:48:50
For an additional year from July 1st, 23 through June 30th 24 Mary. 00:48:57
Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Supervisor Humphrey, Supervisor Christensen. 00:49:06
So the Pinell County Medical Examiner has been serving in this capacity for a couple years now. 00:49:11
They have been able to really reduce our cost. 00:49:17
And we look forward to continuing to work with them. 00:49:20
And I know they just finished and had the ribbon cutting for their new facility and Michael went and represented the county and 00:49:23
saw how the new facilities laid out. I didn't know if you had anything to add about how great that was. 00:49:29
Ohh. 00:49:37
Good morning, Chairman, Members of the board. Yeah, when I went to the ribbon cutting. 00:49:38
Ceremony the The new facility in Pinal County is quite spectacular. It's it's a beautiful facility and it's going to be able to 00:49:43
handle the volume from HeLa County very easily so. 00:49:49
If you ever wanna tour the facility, just let me know and I'll talk to Doctor Who and. 00:49:56
Supervisor, hopefully you don't. Well anyway, if the other two would like it too. Or just let me know and we'll go out there. 00:50:04
Alright, you ready for questions, Mayor? Nor do we need to give. Just go for a motion and get away from this one. 00:50:13
Supervisor helpful. 00:50:21
Two, not the other. 00:50:24
But now or later from good. 00:50:27
Supervisor Christian Darrell. Thank you, Marian. 00:50:33
Baron going question I would have is how come we're only Jennifer and for this next year is it going to be a whole new contract 00:50:36
coming up there's going to be a whole new contract coming up where we we had the. 00:50:42
The way the original one was published or created, we had up to three renewals. This will be your third renewal and then next year 00:50:48
we'll have to go out to bid again. 00:50:52
Hmm. 00:50:57
And just the way procurement goes, ohh that's that was my guess. So thank you that entertain a motion. 00:50:58
That's chair. I move to approve Amendment #3 to an intergovernment agreement with final. 00:51:04
Accounting for medical examiner services as presented, I will second having a motion and a second all in favor, do so by saying 00:51:10
aye, aye, aye, motion carries. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you. 00:51:15
All right, you guys anything on? We'll move on to #5 consent agenda action items. Do either one of you have anything you want to 00:51:22
talk about or pull? 00:51:27
I'm I'm good, Mr. Chair. 00:51:33
If it's possible I'll just make a comment so on item G. 00:51:36
I wanna commend Samantha Trimble for working especially hard with this one because it came in. 00:51:41
Late and it just shows a commendable. 00:51:48
Level of service that the county provides to accommodate. 00:51:53
Umm. 00:51:58
The constituents and I really appreciate that. 00:51:59
Very good. Thank you. 00:52:02
Alright, with that I did entertain a motion. Mr. Chair moved to approve consent agenda items 5A through 5K. 00:52:04
Mr. Carroll second that having a motion, and second all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, motion carries. 00:52:13
Number six called the public. Lisa, do we have anyone in? Payson called the public doesn't look like. 00:52:20
No, Sir, we do not. Are we good on YouTube, Joseph? 00:52:26
How many people we got? 00:52:29
Good deal. And we have none here, so. 00:52:33
127 for our updates at anytime during this meeting. 00:52:37
Members of the Board of Supervisors and Heela County Manager may present a brief summary of current events. 00:52:42
Michael, you won't go first. You got anything first? 00:52:46
I do not. Chairman. Thank you. All right. Supervisor Humphrey. 00:52:49
All Mr. Chair, I'm good other than I have a tunnel basin meeting tonight at 5:00. 00:52:53
Alright. 00:52:59
Supervisor Christians thank Mr. Chairman. A couple days ago I met with Todd Nandy with Policy Development, that was. 00:53:00
Informative and also. 00:53:07
Had a meeting out at Beaver Valley. They're considering putting in a Verizon tower there as well. 00:53:11
And so lots of public input at that meeting. 00:53:17
And tomorrow I will be on K rim for about. 00:53:20
30 minutes. 00:53:25
Ohh just to talk about county stuff. Also have a meeting with the Matt Patchwork and Gary. 00:53:27
Morris, about Fossil Creek, we're proceeding on that. They're encouraging. 00:53:34
And the Game and Fish Commission will be meeting. 00:53:39
Um on Friday in our new TCM building. 00:53:42
And everyone is working hard to make them comfortable and prepared. So that starts at 8:00 o'clock and I intend to be there. 00:53:46
So also on Saturday is the 60th anniversary of the Lions Club in. 00:53:55
So they're having a celebration I will go to. 00:54:00
Thank you. 00:54:03
Alright, thank you Steve, so. 00:54:04
Yesterday I attended the kettle growers meeting here in the boardroom and it is also in conjunction with the Forest Service. 00:54:06
And it was over there next Friday 5 to 10 year plan on how they're going to conduct burns. 00:54:13
And what they're gonna do with that? And so there's really good conversation between the permittees and the Forest Service. 00:54:18
It was good to see the amount of people that showed up and. 00:54:25
Get the governments willing to work with everybody to try and pull off some pretty cool projects, so. 00:54:28
That was good until this Thursday. I'll be in Pace and Star Valley Rd. Yard. I have an NRC meeting there. 00:54:34
Umm. 00:54:41
Steve, are you going to that one? No, I won't be there. OK, So I won't post that. 00:54:43
And you're not gonna be there already 10? Nope. OK. 00:54:48
So we're good. 00:54:51
And then on this is just for information. Coming up July 15th, we're gonna have a soft opening for the Pleasant Valley Veterans 00:54:54
Retreat. 00:54:58
And it looks to be. 00:55:04
Middle of the day, from by 11:00 o'clock to 2:00 o'clock. And they'll be right there at the at the side, of course. 00:55:07
And the invitations will be sent out to everybody, but we won't get that out there also, some are workers started this week and we 00:55:14
have 50 kids throughout the county. 00:55:19
50 plus right on. That's about the most we've had then. 00:55:26
Good. 00:55:31
And the YC crew started last week. The mentors, mentors had their orientation at NYU. 00:55:33
And the the crew came on board this week. One of the mentors was a I guess, a graduate from Globe High School last year, which is 00:55:40
really cool. 00:55:44
As a crew of 6 workers and two leaders. 00:55:49
And just listening to the government yesterday, they're all pretty excited about that, having those kids. 00:55:53
And it sounds like they got they have some really cool projects lined up with them, so. 00:55:59
Yeah, that's parking. He thinks we're either either of you, we're good. No, just a question. Does that include the kids with the 00:56:05
Globe Ranger 4 service deal? 00:56:10
50 plus. 00:56:15
Pardon me? 00:56:16
I think the white 50 plus YC crew is in addition. 00:56:17
Is in addition to this, yeah. 00:56:21
But it's kind of the same program. 00:56:23
Well, no. 00:56:26
Right. 00:56:29
OK. 00:56:31
And Mr. Chairman, you might want to recognize that we do have one of the summer workers with us here today. And we do. Haley 00:56:32
Haley, do you want to give a speech? 00:56:36
No, no speeches today. 00:56:40
I don't blame you. 00:56:43
Welcome aboard. Hopefully you enjoy your summer. 00:56:45
Yeah. 00:56:48
OK, I'll go ahead. And we're going to move right on into #8 work session items. 00:56:49
And the first one's gonna be 8A. Information discussion. 00:56:57
Regarding funding and implementation of the Hillcroft project, and Amy is going to tell us all about it. 00:57:01
Thank you. 00:57:10
Good morning, Chairman and Supervisors. Thank you for this opportunity. 00:57:14
Umm. 00:57:18
So for there's a couple of elements here with the helipad. 00:57:20
Project. It's been a year now. 00:57:24
That is been going on out there. 00:57:26
And we have a lot of really good feedback from the public. 00:57:29
Um, it's. 00:57:33
Let's see. 00:57:35
How do I do this thing? Ohh very cool. 00:57:36
Umm. 00:57:38
So I tried to kind of include some of that there so you could see it, but. 00:57:40
Healer proud the proud sounds for protecting our unique destination. 00:57:44
And it's a partnership between the county. 00:57:49
And several other agencies, including the hospital. 00:57:52
Couple of the minds. 00:57:57
Cities and towns. 00:57:59
To clean up the corridor to so that when people enter our area they see how beautiful it is rather than. 00:58:01
Be distracted by trash and we. 00:58:07
Umm. 00:58:09
Over the past year, I know that. 00:58:10
From July to December 13.64, tons of leaves and trash were removed as you can see there, and every time there was something like a 00:58:13
big cleanup. 00:58:18
We would get feedback from William Plaza. 00:58:25
Or, you know, several of the Historical Society people who were kind of keeping track of what was happening out there. 00:58:28
And so we're we're really pleased with that because if they're noticing that means that. 00:58:34
You kind of want people to not notice in a way. 00:58:40
You know, for it to just normally be clean and that's that's what the expectation is. 00:58:44
And so I I feel like the project has really accomplished that this year and I'm pretty proud of it. I didn't go out there and pick 00:58:48
up trash myself, but the people who are doing it are have done an excellent job. It's Allegiance Builders that was contracted 00:58:53
through the county and they're up for renewal. 00:58:58
Or. 00:59:04
If the board decides, we can go a different direction. 00:59:05
And I think that's why we're here today. So besides the good things that happened. 00:59:08
I did my Wyatt is over Allegiance Builders and he gave me a billing breakdown, which I believe you have in front of you. 00:59:14
And so 45 to 50%? 00:59:23
Of the 11,041 per month. 00:59:27
Is UM payroll? 00:59:31
And he breaks it down there. There are two two men who work out there 8 hours per week, unless there's additional things that they 00:59:33
have to clean up. 00:59:37
And they have at times gone over because of a lot of debris or there was some construction at one point that they were really 00:59:41
cleaning up. 00:59:45
And 10% is fuel. 00:59:49
10% of the administrative costs and 15% is the consumable. 00:59:52
And there's a 20% profit, but he let me know and I I'm sad he couldn't be here today because I think he had a some good things to 00:59:56
say, but that they'll reach about possibly 16% profit this year. 01:00:02
Umm. 01:00:09
And their first year doing it. There have been no injuries, no adopt concerns. 01:00:09
And there have been no pedestrian arm or motors concerned. They just had one chips, one sale from. 01:00:15
Piece of equipment. 01:00:22
And so with that, I I will say though that. 01:00:24
I I was looking at my breakdown of who is. 01:00:29
Part of the partnership here. 01:00:35
And I had the the county at 10,000, which was the original amount that the county was going to do. It's actually 54,000. 01:00:36
Accounting for 54. 01:00:43
But there are other numbers are correct. Yeah, the numbers are. 01:00:46
Correct ish. 01:00:49
Ready for questions. I'm ready for questions. Thank you, Amy. Supervisor Humphrey, you know I mean I have no questions of you, 01:00:53
you're just presenting this and I I appreciate it the breakdown and so, so the the head of county went to 54,000. 01:01:01
And everybody else is where they're at. 01:01:10
OK, yeah, they don't. The only comment that I would have if he was here is that I see them and they're working quite hard. But I 01:01:13
can imagine what it's like to get to the dump with a trailer full of all the grass and weeds and have to hand unload it. I've 01:01:20
often wondered why in the heck doesn't he get a dump trailer? I mean, he could cut his labor in half. 01:01:27
Download investor stuff. 01:01:35
And that was my only question. Yeah, one of the things that is happening today actually. 01:01:36
Is the poppy seeds the poppy plants? 01:01:42
They're collecting them and bagging them and handing them over to the city of Globe. 01:01:44
To to seed some of the areas that they're really want that. 01:01:50
The most presentation we could copy. 01:01:53
And then the other thing is they've worked with the town of Miami pretty extensively. 01:01:55
The town of Miami jumped on it and said hey. 01:02:00
We want to clean up some of these areas, how can we partner and so they they work together and it was good to see that that 01:02:02
partnership there. 01:02:05
Good. 01:02:09
Thank you very much. 01:02:11
You good, Tim. 01:02:13
I'm good supervisor Christian. OK. Amy good to see you. Program working now the only casualties windshield. 01:02:14
That is good, especially along the highways. Yeah, it is. It is really nice to see everything is a lot better than it was, so. 01:02:24
Yeah, this. 01:02:34
Is there any there you go? Are there any instructions? Can I can I go out for partnership? 01:02:36
Again. 01:02:44
Or should they wait? 01:02:45
And did you, can you answer that right now? I'm not sure. I don't know that we can. I don't think we really take an action. But 01:02:47
you can get a gist of what we're thinking, I guess, right, Michael, I should be asking Jesse. 01:02:52
But. 01:02:58
You can. 01:03:00
It's different. 01:03:03
Question. 01:03:06
So to start that part of the discussion, I would just ask you, the partners that are in there now, are they, they're wanting to 01:03:07
stay, right? 01:03:10
That is my understanding, but I would really need to reach out and. 01:03:14
And confirm that. 01:03:18
Is that has have we heard of anyone else wanting to get on board with this and. 01:03:19
And think about partnering or want to be a part of it. 01:03:26
Tim. 01:03:31
I I have not. 01:03:33
Heard of anybody that wants to? 01:03:34
Did join in on the funding. 01:03:37
I have a thought. 01:03:41
I would like to put to do some publicity on this. 01:03:43
Get it out there and potentially expand it for beautification, but. 01:03:47
I know that's in the conversation point of the day, but you know that to me, that's the natural step. 01:03:52
Beyond just keeping it clean, so. 01:03:57
On on I'm just asking you your thoughts but when you because obviously you've been thinking about this too so. 01:03:59
What would you think of? 01:04:07
What would your idea of an expansion be, I guess? 01:04:10
Umm. 01:04:14
My I I've looked at some beautification projects from other municipalities and one of the things that they they focus on are the 01:04:15
areas that people see the most. 01:04:20
And so to me, some of the work that the city of Globe has done, like with with the railroad right there, that area, some 01:04:25
beautification some. 01:04:29
Droughts. 01:04:36
Type plants that you can put on that that would just not distract but. 01:04:37
You know, there's that little area that there's the the wall over here with the stairs. I don't know what's called anything right 01:04:43
now. That's when I stand up. But there's a wall with, you know, where there's there's an, there's an opportunity to beautify it 01:04:49
where it's not just dirt and weeds growing all the time. So with all the murals going up. 01:04:55
I think that there's a. 01:05:01
There's we can have conversation about, you know how I'm just one person thinking maybe some flowers and got resistant plants, but 01:05:03
I think that there might be other really good ideas that people have. 01:05:08
That I haven't even thought of. So maybe you know some partnership with the IR globe and. 01:05:14
So maybe in the future we could pull the partners that we do have together for another work session session just to discuss 01:05:23
something like that. 01:05:27
Because maybe they're thinking the same thing. 01:05:31
You know, obviously it would, it would take more money. 01:05:34
You know would would be putting more money into the pot I'm sure for any kind of expansion, but by then maybe there's more 01:05:37
partners too so. 01:05:41
You know, we think you know. 01:05:46
Ohh, I think. I think it's all good ideas. But like you say you you need people. You need either volunteers or you need funding to 01:05:50
pay people and. 01:05:55
And anymore funding for paying people is difficult as well because you can't find the people to pay if you have the money. 01:06:00
But but yeah, it all makes the difference. And right down there where the where the trestle goes over the road. I have a building 01:06:07
there that I'll let the mayor paint, you know the globe symbol on the side of my building, just. 01:06:13
To help add. So I'm a big supporter of making it look better and things, but we also have to watch our funding. 01:06:18
Because things are going to get tighter as we go forward, so. 01:06:26
I'm all for partners and and doing what we can with what we act. 01:06:30
But I think with their volunteer base, the IR Globe and the other. 01:06:35
Whatever that that cleanup crew is there, they already have a really strong, enthusiastic base. So to partner with somebody like 01:06:38
that makes sense to me if you know, if they can go that way. 01:06:44
I think it's a good thing. That's the only thing I would like to say is that I. 01:06:53
I do support what you've done and would like to think I could continue to do that. 01:06:57
Even if you expand so. 01:07:02
If that helps you to understand my ideas. 01:07:05
Treatments. 01:07:09
So maybe in the not too far off future we can Michael hold another work session and some more partners? 01:07:10
They can come in, we can all discuss it. 01:07:16
Absolutely, Sir. I'll work with the MA and Marin and. 01:07:19
Pick another date for a work session, probably in July or August. OK, filling out this logic, filling up, and then we'll come back 01:07:23
in front of the board and do more of an in-depth work session on this whole program. 01:07:29
Amy, thank you for everything you've done with this. It has made a big difference. 01:07:37
It really has. Thank you. 01:07:41
OK. On to be information discussion regarding the ongoing plan and future public works departments revenues, expenditures. 01:07:44
Expenditures and projects, This is going to be a good one. Home, Merrill. Thank you. 01:07:53
Thank you. 01:07:58
This is the first of three work sessions. 01:08:02
I'd like to start with the. 01:08:06
Slide #12, if you would. 01:08:08
I'd like to start at the end of the presentation and they'll give you a flavor of why the slides that lead to it. 01:08:11
So this is a 5 year plan. 01:08:18
To fund your plan that looks forward in time and it says that something is going to happen to salaries, they're going to increase, 01:08:20
our revenues are going to stay flat basically. 01:08:24
That. 01:08:29
Then the reductions in her would be offset by the increases in excise tax. 01:08:30
Our operating supplies growth over time, the transportation capsule, the cap that the money that we spend on capital 01:08:35
transportation projects. 01:08:39
Should be what we can afford to spend and to spend it wisely. 01:08:44
There's an equipment line and we'll we'll look at the years past how little we purchased on equipment, but there's. 01:08:49
Uh, you'll see a flight on equipment and uh, how old some of our equipment is? 01:08:55
That we should set aside some money for reserve and local share. In other words, if we come across another big project, be at the 01:09:00
512, be it a control Rd. some paving project, Russell Rd. something that comes up that says we have federal monies. 01:09:06
That we're able to pitch in a local share or pitch in some amount that puts us at the top of the heap of those people that are 01:09:13
competing for that, for that grant. 01:09:17
So that we will set some lighting aside and say we keep it there to the side. That's a reserve for local share and for anything 01:09:21
that may happen with with with hunt, with our funding sources. 01:09:26
And that the rest of the money that because we're going to start off. 01:09:32
Year 24/23/24 with $15 million of of money in the bank. 01:09:36
Of her money from her excise tax and. 01:09:42
It's the money. 01:09:46
In, in in in the van. 01:09:48
And we we shouldn't have that money in the bank. We should be spending that at widely as we can and not all in one year, but over 01:09:50
over the next four or five years we should be spending that money down. And that's the purpose of of making the presentation to 01:09:57
share thoughts with you and to get your input. So let's go back to the beginning. 01:10:03
And on Slide #2, please, that one right there. 01:10:11
So yeah, this is a probably. I've recycled this this slide. 01:10:14
And it shows. 01:10:19
Revenues over an 18 year period. 01:10:22
And last time I think I told you it's, it's flat or less or or even slightly decreasing. 01:10:24
Whereas the her files have gone up and inflation has gone up. 01:10:30
And so we're we're dealing with that and that's the fact that we have to accept. We either change the her formula, the state 01:10:35
legislature does something with doing something with her, but other than that it's just papers. 01:10:42
Sorry. 01:10:49
Yeah, him. 01:10:50
OK. 01:10:51
OK. Ohh, OK. Other than that, we need to take that into account in our planning. So next slide please. 01:10:52
So that was 18 years. How about this year? How are we doing this year as opposed to last year? And and and into the April time 01:10:59
frame, 10 out of 12 months, we're going to be slightly lower than last year. Last year we were 8,561,000. 01:11:07
This year we're going to be 8,525,000 if the trend content continues and you can see that excise tax goes up 10%, curve goes down 01:11:16
2%, then vehicle license tax goes down 10%. 01:11:23
And again, those are things that we that we need to know and we plan ahead. So let's look at our expenditures the last five years. 01:11:30
And you can. 01:11:39
Next slide please. 01:11:42
So if you look at this slide, you see revenues at the top line and across our fiscal year 2020, 2122 and 23. 01:11:45
And you see that it's a that it's increased over fiscal year 2020. 01:11:55
But it's decreased over fiscal year 2022. At the very last column, I have a model year. The model year assumes that you have $8.5 01:11:59
million of revenues that take care of our roads and what would you do with that money? How would you distribute that money then if 01:12:04
that's what you have? 01:12:10
So you can see that salaries are in about 3 and a half $1,000,000 range. 01:12:15
That's a little bit misleading because when we have 9 vacancies that the Star Valley Rd. Yard. 01:12:20
We're not paying those salaries and my goal is to fill up the vacancies as much as we can. So 3.5 is understated and you can see 01:12:26
on the model year that it's 3.8. Maybe it should be 4,000,000. 01:12:31
But bottom line is our salary, our wages and salaries have been understated. 01:12:38
In the last four or five years, OK, operating supplies, they're about almost $2 million this year and I say maybe the IT ought to 01:12:44
be $2,000,000 in the model year where if we're just saying what's a typical year capital transportation. 01:12:53
Capital transportation should be like what's leftover and I and and it's a bad thing to say but what's leftover when you pay for 01:13:02
our people, When you pay for the the supplies that we need. 01:13:07
And and we pay for our equipment. 01:13:13
And and and So what I did is I took eight and a half million, subtracted 3.8 from it 2,000,000, I subtracted equipment 750,000. 01:13:16
And what was left was $1.9 million. 01:13:24
That we can spend on capital projects. 01:13:26
And and the reason that I put down 750,000 for equipment is you'll see we have some very old equipment like like we have some 01:13:29
vehicles a few years ago, we still have some very, we still have we have very old equipment and in years past we didn't buy 01:13:34
equipment. 01:13:39
Even though we had money in the bank, we didn't buy equipment. 01:13:45
And so we have equipment that's over over the over 30 years old and and and you can have like we do today we have equipment. 01:13:48
Because even though it's all, some of it's sitting idle because we don't have full. 01:13:57
The full amount of operators that we'd like to have. 01:14:01
But you gotta have you gotta have operators and you have 1/2 equip. 01:14:05
And you can't have one or the other. You got to have both. OK. 01:14:09
And recently we had an issue where we were doing some work and. 01:14:13
A 10 Wheeler. 01:14:20
The motivator had a flat tire and the whole crew came to talk through finding home. 01:14:22
And yeah, it's something we could have fixed. It was just a tire, but that's an example of something. What happened when an 01:14:27
equipment, when equipment fails if our chip box were to fail today. 01:14:31
Kind of be catastrophic for us, OK. So we need to make sure our equipment functions and so the carry forward on fiscal year 23 at 01:14:36
the end of fiscal year 23 is going to be $15 million of proposal would be that it'd be a lot less than that and in the model years 01:14:42
got $6,000,000 and that's with. 01:14:48
That's why we're here to get your input on those kind of thoughts. So next slide please and if you have questions on anyone slide, 01:14:54
please stop me. 01:14:57
So I wanted the the team to to help to help us understand what's the cost of these things that we do. 01:15:02
And so we have some experience with crack sealing with chip seal. 01:15:09
And we've estimated that the cost per mile. 01:15:13
For crack sealing, it's about 1500 when you stop, when you stop and think about it, if you want to stop the that's where you for 01:15:18
material only. That's 51 boxes and material that was used up in strawberry pine recently to do a couple of miles. They were doing 01:15:24
a couple of miles for cracks, you only have them keep cap. 01:15:30
Keep track of how much material they were using, and even if you double or triple that, it's still a very low number to take care 01:15:36
of the most important function that we that we need to take it take care of our payrolls and that's to keep water out of them. 01:15:43
And and and from across standpoint there's no reason for us not to be doing a lot of crack sealing. 01:15:51
Other than labor? 01:15:57
OK, it's our it's our human resource. So. 01:15:58
Homer, when you I I know what you mean by practicing and and we have the equipment for that but does that also take in 01:16:01
consideration just. 01:16:05
Just a slurry. 01:16:09
No, it's just filling in the cracks, OK, Blowing out, blowing, cleaning out the crack and then killing it, killing it in OK. 01:16:11
And typically if you read a textbook, it says every three years. On this slide, I had three, three to five years and I used five 01:16:17
years as the model. 01:16:22
And since we should do 36 miles of praxia year given that we have almost 200 miles of paved roads. 01:16:27
OK. 01:16:33
And and they would do 36 miles, no. 01:16:35
The mileage that we do is because we're going to do a chip seal, we go and 1st crack seal it and we should we should not do a 01:16:38
tipsy without first crack sealing. 01:16:42
OK, so the chip sealing has been forcing us to do crack sealing. 01:16:47
OK, but it ought to be more than that. We ought to be practicing a lot more. It's a it's a very inexpensive solution to 01:16:51
lengthening the life of our paved roads. So. So. 01:16:57
Slakey said. We're down on on operators. 01:17:03
Now and have been for quite a while. It may be for a while. 01:17:06
So. 01:17:10
Like on your crack ceiling? 01:17:12
What would it since we can't get around to hitting all these projects and and getting ahead of our curve, are you kind of thinking 01:17:15
about maybe? 01:17:19
Taken and contracting some of that. 01:17:23
I I think. 01:17:26
I think when by by the time I get done with this presentation, I think that that becomes almost a thing that we need to be 01:17:27
proactive on, yes. 01:17:31
And certain things. 01:17:35
OK. 01:17:37
And and that is labor intensive. It's being outside walking around with a vacuum hose and blowing out with a pressure hose blowing 01:17:38
out the cracks, being out in the sun all day long, handling the hose for the crack seal feeding that the the machine, it's it's 01:17:44
it's a little different than I think what our team is accustomed to. 01:17:51
And that that's not the that's the because they drive that that 10 Wheelers and the motor breeders, I mean you know that they have 01:17:58
to be doing that kind of work but it's it's it's something I think we need to. 01:18:03
That we should be considering that not everybody can be operators tomorrow. We need some neighbors. 01:18:09
But we we have some, we know we have. We have folks that will do anything and every. 01:18:16
I know we do. 01:18:20
OK. So proceeding is the same thing. I have $75,000 a mile, but actually the cost for for chip sealing, I'm sorry, I'm talking 01:18:23
about chip sealing now. You should do that. The textbook says every seven years. I put down 10 years as well and I based the model 01:18:28
on on 10 years. 01:18:34
It's really if you do the chip sealing one is needed, you should be inspecting that paper and you should be saying we should be 01:18:40
chip sealing these roads. OK, so this is has is a big interest for me. 01:18:45
So right there you have Chip Seal at 75,000 a mile, but then on Double Chip you're showing 250. Why isn't that 150,000? 01:18:51
OK, it's 250,000 because if you're going to chip, because if your chip sealing a road, your chip sealing over something that has 01:18:59
been paved before and you can see evidence of failure. So you take, you patch this section, a small section. 01:19:06
But if you're going to be doing a double chip seal, you ought to be you ought to be spending money on subgrade. 01:19:13
As well. 01:19:18
And that includes the subgrade. 01:19:19
OK. OK. So if you're graded, if you're subgrade is already there and then place or it just needs a little bit whatever that could 01:19:21
that figure will be adjusted correct, it'll be the 150,000? 01:19:26
And we're going to be doing some chip sealing, some roads in young that appear to be in perfect shape and ready to be chipseal 01:19:32
without the subgrade. And it wouldn't be $250,000 a mile. 01:19:38
OK. It would be something less. 01:19:44
Now if you want it, if you if you say, that's kind of high for chip seal and if you knew about chip seal material. 01:19:46
75 is is more than the chip material that we would be buying. 01:19:52
Because I've included there other things like crack sealing the road ahead of time and patching sections of the road that might 01:19:58
need to be patched but the chip shield material itself. 01:20:03
That at the furthest area of the county that we need to chip shield would be something in the order if you were just chip seal oil 01:20:08
and the chips. 01:20:12
$40,000 a mile. 01:20:16
OK, so I just added a something additional because you shouldn't just go chip seal Rd. You should look at the condition of the 01:20:18
road, make the repairs necessary and then chip seal it. 01:20:22
OK, so. 01:20:28
Me and whom? Merrill's had this discussion A lot, and a lot of it's been based around the 512 Road, the North Rd. 01:20:29
Cost of asphalt is extremely expensive, so you when you look at double jets or or however it goes there, it's an option. But in 01:20:35
the northern country where we have snow removals. 01:20:40
And all that. There's still kind of a question there. Just how would that work? 01:20:45
And a lot of it. And even in like in young like these roaches coming out. 01:20:51
That chipping because we remove snow off those roads as well. 01:20:55
It's it the the big question is is. 01:21:00
Can your operators not be so heavily handed on that equipment and and just tend to the? 01:21:04
What they need to tend to. 01:21:10
And I I think that's just something that time would tell. But go ahead, Homer. 01:21:12
And so we talked about the double Chip Seal that's on an as needed basis or as. 01:21:17
Required. Or as planned. OK, reconstruct. That's a paper roll taking down, milling down a paper roll, Something that was 01:21:23
previously paid, designed with actual pavement, not a chip seal. 01:21:30
Something that has been paved that we want to replace the pavement. 01:21:38
Right now we're looking at about $1,000,000 a mile. 01:21:41
And that's and that's and we're going to learn a lot from some of the work that we're doing up in Control Roads soon. 01:21:44
As to whether that $1,000,000 is correct or not, we just don't have enough data every time we turn around. 01:21:51
Folks are quoting us $1,000,000 a mile, so I've got $1,000,000 a mile here we don't have. 01:21:56
A1 particular mile of paperwork that we plan on doing in the near future. 01:22:02
The road that we're planning on doing in the near future or or Double Chip Seal with the exception of Stagecoach Rd. 01:22:06
That will be paid. 01:22:13
It's a short section that needs to be laid down perfectly to allow for water to flow with a 1% grade over a long period or a long 01:22:14
length. 01:22:18
We're going to be paving that, but that's not a good indication of a paved Rd. because it's got a concrete center section and 01:22:23
toothpaste sections on the site. 01:22:27
So. 01:22:32
We, we will learn more about paving with some of the work that we're doing up in the control road and the cost of that and then we 01:22:33
need to start thinking about. 01:22:37
What do we do with that? 01:22:42
With, with, with it, If it's something that expensive, Where do we start? What do we do? 01:22:44
So as you know, we've asked for $3,000,000 to pay for a section of the Young Rd. 01:22:49
From the federal government and we're waiting to see if that's gonna materialize or not and that would be another place where we 01:22:54
could learn about. 01:22:57
The actual cost of paving today. 01:23:01
Re graveling. 01:23:04
Reveling is based on a cloth that I received from one of the Snowflake from Hatch Construction. 01:23:06
Uh, they quoted us uh class 6A B material. 01:23:13
Uh, which is which? You're compact well and is typically used for gravel roads. 01:23:18
They would haul it down, they would deliver it, we would place it. This cost is based on. 01:23:23
Someone hauling material to us and replacing it, and it's $81,000 a mile for five inches of material. 01:23:27
And I just wanted to kind of electronic sample. 01:23:34
Of the different costs that we have is the purpose of this. 01:23:36
It it was an informal bid, it's not an official number that they gave me but as an estimate to to try to get a better appreciation 01:23:40
for what it would it take for us to go back to 512 year old. So for instance and give it a new gravel surface which it that he 01:23:47
needs. So on that 81,000 a mile though you're saying they would provide the material, they would provide and haul the material. So 01:23:53
what about just hauling costs, have you do you have any idea on that? 01:24:00
Because, like you know, on the 512 road we have a pile of material already. 01:24:07
Reporters are price per per hour. 01:24:11
And we could, we could calculate that. So we wouldn't know because it's a cost per hour. 01:24:14
Nothing. 01:24:19
So they gave us that number and we can and we can and we can work on that. 01:24:20
We'll talk some more about that, about the rumor pitting a little bit on one of the slides that I have, because I've got kind of 01:24:26
like information that I received from the Forest Service last week. 01:24:30
Would too much more forwards that kind of reconstructing roads. 01:24:35
I took a ride with Brent the other day and there's a couple of roads in my district that he recommended that they be 01:24:40
reconstructed. 01:24:44
And was going to work on a schedule. If is, is, are we? 01:24:48
Any further ahead on a schedule for reconstruction. 01:24:53
We have a slide on that. It doesn't include those ropes today. 01:25:02
OK, but. 01:25:05
With the slight bags for. 01:25:07
Is what do we do not on year 24, year 24, we're doing about $4 million worth of projects. 01:25:09
There is a. 01:25:15
It's a bigger watermelon than we can bite on, OK? 01:25:17
It's just it's gonna challenge us every year we're challenged we we have this list of projects and we'll carry them forward. We 01:25:20
carry them forward and in fact our carry forward dollar fund increases, but our projects haven't been done and not all of them and 01:25:26
so we've got a lot of projects lined up for next year. 01:25:32
OK. 01:25:38
And and we get 80% of them. I would celebrate that, OK. 01:25:39
But what we don't have is the next three years. We don't have projects for the next three years and you'll see that in one of the 01:25:43
in one of the slides. So it's not for 24, maybe it's something we do for 25. 01:25:48
And we do crack seal it and just keep it, keep it in a certain condition for now or we consider the option of of contracting. 01:25:53
OK. 01:26:01
Thank you. 01:26:03
OK, for the next slide. 01:26:05
So this is a a chart that. 01:26:09
Um, I'm kind of proud of because the team. 01:26:12
Went. 01:26:15
Through and actually did a very good five year plan for chip sealing. 01:26:16
I actually have the rows and the subdivisions that this is based on. 01:26:20
And the cost per row and the length of the row. 01:26:25
And they went out five years and they actually went and looked at some of these roads and they said these roads are needed now. 01:26:29
Are there other roads are also needed perhaps? 01:26:34
But they these roads, they concluded, needed to be. 01:26:38
Chip Seal and it's it's on this schedule. This is something that needs to be done every year. Every year you go back and you look 01:26:43
at your pay rolls. 01:26:47
And you make this determination. 01:26:51
And then you plan. 01:26:52
For for this, for this year. And it also lets you know that if you've got extra material or something and you have time, maybe you 01:26:54
can jump into next year on the chip sealing. 01:26:58
But anyway, this is a. This is a first. 01:27:03
For us. 01:27:05
Normally we have a plan for this year for Chip Seal and that's it. 01:27:06
And this is the five year plan, we're starting to look ahead. 01:27:11
Next slide please. 01:27:14
So this is. 01:27:17
Umm. 01:27:20
Federal funding? Nope. Long slide. 01:27:31
Must be recognized. 01:27:34
Ohh, this is the trip here. 01:27:42
Sorry. 01:27:43
Next one. 01:27:47
So this is county funded Rd. maintenance and construction. 01:27:56
It does not include federal monies. This slide does not include federal monies. I wanted to compare this to the model year, the 01:28:01
reason for this slide. 01:28:05
Where where we talked about spending almost $2,000,000 on on transportation projects. 01:28:08
And and you can see how fiscal year 24 is loaded up. 01:28:15
Right. It's $3.8 million of capital projects of our own monies that we want to spend. 01:28:19
And you can see the list of projects here. 01:28:24
And then fiscal year 25, you see something that says be determined. 01:28:27
So we don't have a good five year plan for spend for for, for. 01:28:33
For maintenance projects on our roads other than chip Seal. 01:28:37
Except, you know, we do. 01:28:41
But if it was going to be a reconstruction, a double chip seal, a paved Rd. 01:28:43
You see where we need to do work yet on the projects. Now we do have nineteen bridges. 01:28:47
Out of the 19, all but three are in good shape. 01:28:54
There's three that are in fair shape. We need to consider what are we doing, and some of these bridges are box covers that a dot 01:28:58
calls them bridges OK. 01:29:01
But we have 19 bridge structures that we ought to be thinking about as well. 01:29:05
OK. 01:29:10
But wait, there's paper roads that could fall into the year 2526 and 27. 01:29:11
Is the point is the point of this slide OK? It's like. 01:29:17
This is a federal funding. 01:29:23
Federal funding, you see we don't have any federal funding that we think we're that we are anticipating in 24. 01:29:26
Maybe we will get that 512 road but today. 01:29:32
Uh, the funding, the the things that we have are that we're working on. 01:29:35
Is not Procreate of course. 01:29:40
Umm. 01:29:42
We that's going well, the contractor getting ready to work long hours. 01:29:43
They're a little bit behind. They're trying to catch up. Right now it's like a doom time frame for completion. Maybe they can. 01:29:49
They can move that up. 01:29:55
But they're gonna they're gonna work long hours this summer. 01:29:57
To try to catch up. 01:30:01
We did get an additional 250,000 from the federal government for debris. We're going to bring that amendment to you and that the 01:30:02
agreement that we have with ADA. 01:30:06
Unfortunately, most of that money is already spent. There's a little leftover that if things go well, we get it back. 01:30:11
And and we'll share all those details with you when I bring that. 01:30:18
That more item to you. 01:30:22
Houston Mesa Rd. That's a project that still needs to be done. That's 4 1/2 miles of that 5 foot shoulders that are going to be 01:30:24
paid with rumble strips and etcetera. 01:30:29
4 1/2 miles. 01:30:34
Of Houston Mesa Rd. Right east of 260. 01:30:36
Um, you see the control Rd. We have a. 01:30:40
Projects the site The project that we're working on around whispering Spring Intersection with Control Rd. 01:30:44
You're familiar with that, Young wrote. We have a monies to do a. 01:30:52
In environmental assessment that we're getting ready to kick off with Kimberly Horn. 01:30:57
And and for service working together. 01:31:02
We have two years to spend that money. That would be October of 24. 01:31:05
Eric the contractors expecting to complete the work on September of 24. 01:31:11
There is a lot of consultations that they have to take place. One of them is with deprives. 01:31:17
And so it's a it's a it's a full blown environmental assessment that includes archaeology, biology, biological and all the other 01:31:21
elements that both go with that. So Homer, you're killing me here. 01:31:27
OK, so especially on an archaeology part? 01:31:34
The Forest Service done the assessment years ago. Did they not do an archaeology report then? They haven't. 01:31:38
Then why are we doing another? There's 19 sites of which. 01:31:44
There's seven sides, of which five are on the road. And So what? What never determined is what to do with them. They identified 01:31:48
the size. 01:31:51
But no one put on a piece of paper. What are we going to do with those facts? 01:31:56
OK, and so part of this study is to say, here's what we're gonna do with Are we gonna realign the road? 01:31:59
Or we're gonna put enough material on top that it preserves the sites and and they need to work on that. 01:32:05
We're gonna be driving on that road to hang out since Bird was created, so I guess. 01:32:14
It's it's a no, it's it's an incredible thing where we have to go through when we work on federal land and with federal dollars 01:32:19
and I'm like. 01:32:22
No one, no one would debate that. 01:32:26
It's. 01:32:28
Outrageous half $1,000,000. 01:32:31
It's not our money up there, You know, it's it's still our money, right? But it's it's federal money. 01:32:34
OK. 01:32:40
But I there's. I don't know how else. I don't know what else to do, right. That's all we can do. It's just a shame that we're 01:32:41
taking that much money and dumping it into something that. 01:32:46
I don't know, like I have a hard time agreeing that needs done, but I guess it does. But then thank God we didn't have to come up 01:32:52
with the value of our own pockets. 01:32:56
But it is still taxpayer dollars we've got to be accountable for. 01:33:01
Got it. 01:33:05
And the biological is, you know, they they need to do that every so many years, animals move around etcetera, but. 01:33:08
Hopefully we've been traveling on that road for a long time and hopefully all the things are minor. 01:33:14
So that we can move forward. 01:33:20
And of course I just mentioned I think Control Rd. Whispering Pines, we've got a million five. 01:33:22
We got suspended between this year and the end of the next fiscal. 01:33:28
Umm. 01:33:33
So next slide please. 01:33:35
I wanted to share the slide on heavy equipment. 01:33:38
Just to show that we have. 01:33:41
3. 01:33:44
Motor graders older than 30 years and three things will dump truck folders in. 01:33:44
And 30 years. 01:33:49
And then of course, what you don't see on the slide in detail? 01:33:50
Is a water truck that belly dumps the loaders, backhoes and the semi trucks. Semi trucks are by the way. 01:33:54
A very important piece of equipment for us. 01:34:00
And even though they're not on that slide. 01:34:03
If we were to spend the say let's say $750,000 a year. 01:34:06
Sooner or later you'll see a semi truck in in the list as the time goes on. It's they're old and they're important for it. We all 01:34:10
equipment back and forth. 01:34:15
We share equipment. 01:34:20
And we'll need to do that but there's there's there's no sense in us having and I talked to the team and some folks. 01:34:21
Ohh, can't. We'll dump trucks that are older than 30 years. They really like them. 01:34:28
But we still need to make common sense out of what do we do with it every time we buy one of these pieces of equipment. It can't 01:34:31
be based on statistic that I'm showing you up here. It's got to be based on the statistic for the team input. 01:34:38
Is it time for that vehicle to go? But we've got all the equipment. Look at the ones that are 25 years or older. You know, we 01:34:44
gotta. 01:34:47
Large percentage of them. 01:34:51
30% or more in both categories. 01:34:53
So anyway it just it's it's a necessary part of our expenditures. 01:34:56
Next slide please. 01:35:00
You know, I I showed you this slide a lot of times because and I mentioned this to the to the Forest Service every time I talk to 01:35:03
them. Last time I talked to Matt the Chore, he told me I know Homer, I know. I told him how important the material fits hard for 01:35:08
us. 01:35:12
Because because if it weren't for the material fits, I don't know that we would have $15 million to carry forward, OK. 01:35:17
But the material would be expensive for hauling the material. The fact that the material fits are strategically located around the 01:35:25
county is just as important as it fits themselves, OK. 01:35:30
Because the healing process is is oftentimes more than the cost of the material. As matter of fact, for us it's probably the case 01:35:35
all the time. The Raymer pit, we've been in there before, not talked to the Forest Service and just last week they told me. 01:35:42
They gave me verbal approval to go back into ringer fit into the disturbed area. 01:35:50
And I'm working with Eddie Wisdom. 01:35:56
And the poor services just don't do it until we give you a piece of paper saying that. 01:35:57
And that's what they always think at the same time we we're going to go get environmental assessments for the for the other three 01:36:02
it's it's just there's and we don't know what the cost is and when we do we'll come share that idea with you. 01:36:09
But if it's successive. 01:36:18
And it can't be a half $1,000,000. I think it'll be in the. 01:36:20
10 to $20,000 range for. 01:36:23
And and if I were to do the math on. 01:36:27
That versus the amount of cubic character we get out, I think I could easily demonstrate we should do it even without 01:36:30
participation from the Forest Service. But every time I talk to the Forest Service, I'm asking them can can they do some of that 01:36:34
work themselves? 01:36:39
At this point the answer is then no. But nonetheless they're they're going to allow us to go into Raymer fit this summer this 01:36:44
year. 01:36:47
Um, And see if we can blend that in with some of the material we have. 01:36:51
Maybe get someone to perfect for us and move forward. 01:36:54
So I wanna tell you thank you for doing that Homer. And I'm going to give you guys an example. 01:36:58
Six years ago, I stood in Ramer Pitt with James and our Public works director and Brent Klein and Danny Savage and everybody 01:37:03
pushing on that pit. 01:37:09
Homer just tackled this project in about the last six months. 01:37:16
So. 01:37:21
There there's some things that I want shown why we're in the situation we're in right now. 01:37:23
And that was there's been a whole lot of feet dragged through the sand. 01:37:29
And I've got a lot less here than I did six years ago. So homers really helping. Thank you Homer for that. 01:37:33
Until team effort, though, I have a lot of people's, a lot of people helping Tom Holman, the Scott Warrens, the Tom Goodman, just 01:37:41
a lot of folks step up and we all participate in. 01:37:46
We're we're in a door. Best to. 01:37:51
Be the best that we can be OK. 01:37:54
It's like please. 01:37:57
So. 01:38:00
I want to talk about our team and you just beat me to it. Supervisor. Current plan. 01:38:01
Recently we promoted Adrian Mata to be a regional manager. 01:38:08
For the road yard here in the. 01:38:15
We have Wayne Jones as a regional manager. 01:38:18
Road Yard manager for. 01:38:21
Four-star Valley Rd. Yard. 01:38:24
Wayne is is setting a great example for what a regional manager could be doing. 01:38:27
Actually, he is expanding the horizon of his scope of duties and responsibilities. 01:38:32
And that's what we wanted. We wanted the regional managers to be making more decisions every day. 01:38:39
Both short term and long term. 01:38:44
You know what should he be chip sealing? What should he should be paving? What are the rules has? 01:38:47
How is he assigning his folks for it for a year? Because actually the work that we do in the road yards is very seasonal. 01:38:53
You can't pave in January, but you can snow plow in January. You can clean culverts in January. 01:39:01
Are you can't ship CEO in November, but you can in the summertime. And so there's a seasonality to the work that they should plan 01:39:08
like a whole year out. Here's how we're going to tackle all the problems that we need to cut weeds. But there's only a certain 01:39:13
times to go do that. 01:39:18
OK. 01:39:23
So there's a right time to do that. There's a seasonality to it. And so some of the things that I have up there is that that I 01:39:24
would like for the regional manager to pursue with the recruitment training. 01:39:29
They need to help us to do that and they need to help us retain. 01:39:34
Retain folks, How do we? 01:39:38
Keep the folk that we have interested in what they're doing. 01:39:39
To stay here long longer. 01:39:42
Long term planning and we need to pursue efficient operations. We need to plan our work. We need to measure our work. 01:39:44
Without those two components, we never improve. 01:39:52
And that, and that's my expectation of them and I'm going to be working with them. So the regional managers now report directly to 01:39:55
me. 01:39:58
Frontline has. 01:40:01
Agreed to do the sign become the safety manager slash special projects. He'll be responsible for the sign shop and special 01:40:03
projects meaning. 01:40:08
He answers, he helps us anytime we ask him a question because he's got so much history and knowledge about different things that 01:40:13
when we go to him for for help that he would help us if if he can, OK. 01:40:20
So that's that's a change that that's taken place Apprenticeship program, we have 15 applicants. 01:40:26
We're going to be interviewing this month. 01:40:32
And we're gonna be selecting at least two of them. 01:40:35
And based on the quality of the folks that we interview, maybe more than two, but at least two. 01:40:37
That was going to be my question. Homer was is. 01:40:43
Is it? 01:40:46
Are you thinking to keep it pretty well limited to the lower number just because to kick off this first year of doing this? That's 01:40:47
kind of your thoughts? 01:40:51
Correct. 01:40:55
I'd overwhelm. 01:40:57
Wayne. Wayne does have a different job. So I want to bring something up with Wayne about Wayne Right now. I don't know if you 2 01:40:59
know this, maybe you do, but Wayne has stepped out there to implement a CDL program in the county. 01:41:06
I I, for one will tell you that that is a huge plus for Heather County. 01:41:15
And somewhere along the way we need to recognize waiting for doing that somehow, because as far as I know, he stepped out there on 01:41:20
his own to take this on. Is that right? Correct. 01:41:26
And he he did it. 01:41:32
Based on previous discussions, but he did it all on his own. 01:41:34
And we we have. 01:41:41
Where we put a program in place that says. 01:41:44
We can have as many as one CDL trainer for Rd. Yard and we will be offering them. 01:41:47
10% increase in pay and we have. 01:41:53
We have completed that that right there alone. And you guys know, you know a lot of times we have good people that want to apply, 01:41:56
but in the past they've had to go obtain a CDL license in order to apply. Now we can bring those folks on, still under probation, 01:42:02
work with them to get their CDL. 01:42:08
And if they pass, great. And if they don't that we've done as much as we can, but it should open up a lot of doors for us. 01:42:14
And it was really a big help to Wayne. 01:42:20
Point stepped out there. 01:42:23
And then in addition, we're going to be offering them to our. 01:42:25
To our temporary. 01:42:28
Operators. 01:42:30
Folks that have heavy equipment experience, but they don't have a CDL, we're gonna offer them. You want to get a CDL? 01:42:31
When? 01:42:38
Talk to Wayne. 01:42:39
What about supervisors? 01:42:40
Surprises me, yeah. Me, yeah. 01:42:45
I'll help you in the winter, Homero. 01:42:49
Ohh, I'd be fine. 01:42:52
Ohh, Homero, Can I ask Mr. Chairman? 01:42:55
Ohh, as they improve their credentials. 01:42:58
As you've tried to work with facilities and other places then this then offers them the opportunity for more pay. 01:43:03
As they. 01:43:11
Improve their credentials. It's not just simply a certification, it may be followed with an increase in pay. 01:43:12
For the operators is the question. For the operators, yes. 01:43:19
So the last little. 01:43:22
Paragraph here talks about a progression plan from operators to senior operators. 01:43:24
And what we'd like to do is have if you've been here two years with public works, if you have a Class A CDL. 01:43:28
If you're proficient on two types of heavy equipment and you pass these Rope Scholar classes that you can take online at home, for 01:43:35
instance, when you took them all at home. 01:43:39
Or we would be offering our operators time to take them at their work if you pass 16 out of 18 courses. 01:43:44
You would progress from operator to senior operator. 01:43:50
We put the policy together. 01:43:53
We sent that to county manager. 01:43:56
Late last week and we expect because we've had so much discussion on this, we think that will get signed off quickly. 01:43:59
And we could start offering that to our folks. 01:44:06
Recently we hired in Star Valley a person that did not have a CDL because our operator job description today does not require CDL. 01:44:10
But it requires that you get that CDL in nine months. 01:44:18
Once you're hired and it's and it's a hard nine months, a hard stop at that point, you don't have it. You're out. 01:44:22
If you have it. 01:44:28
How you continue with us? 01:44:30
In in that operator would then have the opportunity to seek that senior operator status and pay. 01:44:32
OK. 01:44:38
So we, you know, we we've done a lot of things. 01:44:40
And I recently sat with one of the the groups here, the road Yards and. 01:44:43
I've met with Roger operator for many, many years. 01:44:51
And. 01:44:55
And every meeting that I've ever had with them, pay is spread and brought out. 01:44:56
And yes, we need to continue to do and Healer County, we need to continue to look to see what we can do for our folks. 01:45:01
They're, they're, you know, there's certain limit, there's a budget limit. And what I tell folks is. 01:45:08
Pay is part of the solution and part of the problem. 01:45:13
OK. 01:45:16
A pay is not the total answer. It's all about how do you feel at work? Do you get a sense of accomplishment? Do you have room for 01:45:17
progression? Is there light at the end of the tunnel? 01:45:23
Is it enjoyable to be here at work? Do I feel like I'm contributing? 01:45:28
All those kind of things matter. 01:45:32
But we are, but we need to take care of pay as time goes on. 01:45:35
OK. And we can never lose sight of that, I think. 01:45:38
Next slide please. Homer, let me ask you one question you that's good right there, but. 01:45:42
So on. 01:45:48
This has been a real topic of discussion everywhere I go because it's between the landfill and the road department. You know, we 01:45:50
tried to balance everybody out Once Upon a time and didn't quite make it. Landfill went a little bit above the road department. 01:45:58
So. 01:46:06
My question is and I really appreciate what we are on wages now and I agree with you the fact we still have more work to do. But 01:46:07
so if we have somebody like this guy in base and but the pacing that was hired without the CDL. 01:46:13
Yes. So he's going to get a CDL and he's going to get bumped up eventually. 01:46:20
And after two years, he'll be in a senior position, right? 01:46:24
Correct. So if we hire somebody off the street that comes in to work with us with already a CDL and experience. 01:46:28
We're going to hold them back for two years before we'll be bumping them into a senior position. 01:46:34
If we had somebody apply that met all the senior operator requirements, there's a job description for senior operators would be 01:46:41
meets that he comes in as a senior operator, OK. 01:46:46
That's all I needed to know. 01:46:51
Thank you. 01:46:53
Umm. 01:46:55
We are probably going to be putting up a billboard. I think I'm running out of ideas on how to attract people to Heela County 01:46:57
operators and one of the last things that not maybe not the last thing but the next thing that I'm proposing is for us to put up a 01:47:01
billboard. 01:47:06
With or without CDL, you have heavy equipment experience. 01:47:11
Go apply at Star Valley Rd. Yard or apply online or do whatever you, and we're going to be working with HR on that. 01:47:16
Hopefully we've already started. 01:47:23
Umm. 01:47:24
But we we need to keep pursuing that we there's no way that we can survive with the vacancies that we have. 01:47:26
So with that being said, home Merrill, where do you see the apprenticeship going? I when I think about it, I see us bringing on 01:47:34
some folks, working with them, getting them trained up and some of these folks that maybe all of them are going to pursue jobs 01:47:39
elsewhere. 01:47:43
But hopefully we can retain some people out of that program as well. 01:47:48
And are we are, am I on the right thought there? I mean, yeah, the idea would be that if it's an apprenticeship that we've 01:47:54
recruited locally and lives here, that hopefully he wants to stay here. 01:48:00
And. 01:48:06
The idea of an apprenticeship is if you if you think long term. 01:48:08
About. 01:48:12
Employment in the United States. 01:48:13
You would say everybody ought to have an apprenticeship program because everybody's going to struggle that baby boomers are gone 01:48:16
and COVID can. If not, we had heard about that for so many years. 01:48:21
I've read about the baby boomers leaving their workplace. 01:48:26
I don't know for the last 15 years. Well, it happened. 01:48:29
OK. 01:48:33
And and where do you And So what you end up is you end up. 01:48:33
Have part time guys coming back with a different job. They're retired, they're, et cetera. 01:48:36
It we have an HR problem going on to the next many years. 01:48:41
And not just with our operators, but I think across the board for whether it's Helen County or. 01:48:47
Coconino County, or you name it, we we need to start training folks. 01:48:54
And I think have required the experience requirement I think. 01:48:59
Is we need to rethink the experience requirement? 01:49:03
And that's where that's where we're at with the apprenticeship. So we're going to bring into hopefully next year we can bring in 01:49:06
four. 01:49:09
OK. 01:49:12
And hopefully we get to keep some of them and but it's we're going to learn, OK and it's not weighing that's going to be doing all 01:49:13
the work. He doesn't have to be the trainer for everything. We're going to we're going to farm them out to the. 01:49:19
Council Rd. Yard to the Young Rd. Yard to even here in Globe. 01:49:25
And there's a special project going on where they can have time to teach them a lot of motor grader, that's where they're going to 01:49:30
be. 01:49:32
And Wayne will be the one that tests them for the CDL. 01:49:36
But Wayne is not going to be the exclusive trainer. There's just no way that can happen like that, so it'll be a team effort. 01:49:40
OK. 01:49:46
I think. 01:49:50
Jimmy will return it. Yeah, I. 01:49:54
Well, I. 01:49:58
I just, I just appreciate everything that. 01:49:59
Homer was helping us work with because everything from from bringing in part time, I remember us fighting hard to to get. 01:50:02
Staff to let us use part-time operators and they say well, tear up the equipment well. 01:50:13
If we don't have any operators we need it. So thanks for for the part time I you know because we're we're with part time we're 01:50:19
able to get projects and roads done that we couldn't get to earlier and you know the retired the the guys that are are ranching 01:50:25
and have. 01:50:31
You know days to help that that's all appreciated the the apprenticeship. 01:50:37
Is is something that I support 100%? 01:50:43
You know trying to encourage these youth to to reach forward and and and to help train them. I it's it's just all. 01:50:48
Umm. 01:50:58
I I guess it it it's a it's a different attitude than it was when I first became a supervisor, and I appreciate the attitude very 01:51:00
much. It's like. 01:51:06
OK, I can. Let's let's go forward. Let's see what we can do instead of. 01:51:11
Find 5 reasons why you can't do something that's fine. 01:51:16
One reason why we can't? 01:51:20
And you know, you said earlier that that we're challenged on the projects that you've put in front of it. 01:51:22
Well challenges is what makes us grow and and so I I appreciate the challenger I wouldn't be sitting here as a supervisor and so I 01:51:28
appreciate. 01:51:34
The the the challenging staff as well because that's the only way we we get more done because we're all for we're all working for 01:51:40
the people So I I'm just an appreciation for for the presentation and and and in me the positiveness of. 01:51:48
Of going forward with the challenges and and and and trying to help people part time and and help them get trained as they need 01:51:56
to. So I I'm, I'm just in appreciation. 01:52:02
Mr. Chair, I'm tickled or the apprenticeship program and the chance of doing something different with that. 01:52:09
There's still a deal in back of my mind is statistically in the United States it says that the younger generation. 01:52:15
Is interested in a job for about 3 years. 01:52:21
And then they're ready to go on. 01:52:24
And so. 01:52:26
We're going to find out I'm, I'm really interested to see and I I really have big hopes on the apprenticeship program so I think 01:52:29
it's where we need to be. 01:52:34
But. 01:52:39
Time will tell. 01:52:40
You know. 01:52:41
Thank you. 01:52:42
This last chart is the one I started with and it shows going across time. If you look at capital transportation, there's it's got 01:52:44
numbers up there for 2526 and 27. 01:52:50
But I input it, it said to be determined and I had a million and a half or something like that. 01:52:56
That million and a half appears up there, but they're really exaggerated. We don't know what those things are, and we need to know 01:53:01
what those things will be. 01:53:05
So it's it's today and as time goes on, share with us your thoughts on things that you think are important, so we can work them in 01:53:09
into the 2526 and 27 timeframes. 01:53:14
OK. 01:53:20
Jump right in there, Steve. 01:53:23
Romero, thanks for the. 01:53:25
Really comprehensive report, so I like really all your ideas about your projections and stuff. 01:53:27
Of the over $15 million carrying forward, I agree with the idea of reducing that down to about 6,000,000 and I think that's a 01:53:35
really safe number. So we can start doing some of the things that have been put off over and over. So your leadership is. 01:53:44
Really showing in this area in this department once again and appreciate your problem solving and working with the visionary 01:53:54
attitude. 01:53:59
Thank you. 01:54:05
Homer, you know when I when I think about our vacancies. 01:54:09
And you know the the positions we don't have. 01:54:13
You know, when it comes to just general. 01:54:18
Road maintenance, let's say grading. 01:54:21
Roads when they need, when they need graded. 01:54:25
Are you kicking around any thoughts of maybe taking some of these roads and looking at maybe contracting them out to somebody to 01:54:28
do for us? 01:54:31
Or until we can get our feet on the ground with operators. 01:54:35
I had thought about. I hadn't. I am reluctant to think about that. 01:54:42
Because I don't want to create kind of like a president that we can then lean back and say, well, that's taken care of. I I would 01:54:46
love for us to fill those vacancies. And maybe, maybe I'm just dreaming. I don't know. OK. 01:54:53
But I'd rather do it with part time folks. 01:54:59
And I'd read, and I would even go to the extent of having a part-time supervisor. 01:55:04
Whatever it takes to still keep the cost of lowest possible when we hire. When we hire a part time guy is different than hiring a 01:55:09
contractor. The part time guy is taking the wage that we would give an operator without the benefits. 01:55:15
And they come and go where they work as we need them. 01:55:23
And actually it's a, it's it's a cost reduction if you want to think about it that way, OK. And and we need to capitalize on the 01:55:26
part time folks and how but they come in without a CDL. So now I have no one to transport equipment. 01:55:33
And we could be transparent, but if I had a couple of part time guys that have CDL's and we're going to work on that. 01:55:40
Then you have, we have really moved forward as time goes on, but there may be a period in time to your point where we would need 01:55:47
contracts to do certain things for us. So I don't disagree with you on that. I would much rather see us as a county doing our own 01:55:53
roads by all means but. 01:55:59
I keep them back in my head, wondering if if. 01:56:07
In a lot of ways, and I shoot myself in the foot and I know what you're saying about part time health and we we have to be 01:56:10
careful. We don't you? 01:56:14
Do. 01:56:18
And when you're low on staffing it's it's easy to abuse that. I know there's parameters for it, so. 01:56:19
About to be considered. 01:56:27
There is and we need to keep coming back and and discussing and the idea of like the 512 rows where you contract the hauling that 01:56:29
that's a completely acceptable and fits into the model of us being as self-sufficient as possible. 01:56:36
So. 01:56:44
So there was Do we need beach on the back? No. 01:56:48
So. 01:56:52
With that in mind, that that brings up another. 01:56:53
Question 2. And I'm sure you and Wayne have talked about it, especially for up there. Wayne seems to have the biggest vacancies. 01:56:57
Is impatient right? 01:57:03
The most vacancies? 01:57:05
So patient is hard to find housing and people have a hard time with that. I mean, if they're really not already living there, 01:57:08
chances of them moving in there and getting set up, even though we've upped the wages to somewhat, a more decent amount would be 01:57:13
tough to pay for housing and pacing. 01:57:18
So I know it's been kicked around and I don't know if you guys are are looking at this different, but is there a way of? 01:57:24
Of bumping their crew and tunnel Basin and young toward these people could go to pacing and just to pick up and and work. 01:57:31
With Wayne Or, you know, someplace where there's more of a chance to actually find. 01:57:39
A place to live. 01:57:45
That's a good idea. 01:57:46
I actually hadn't thought about that one that we can, that we can pursue. 01:57:47
If if if there's if there's folks willing to work at Tonto and Young. 01:57:52
And we even if there's windshield time for them to get to to the patient. 01:57:57
Like I think that still would be. 01:58:02
Cost competitive with those hiring contractors. 01:58:05
I think it would too, and it's something that I've been I've thought about. 01:58:09
Each area you know to to step in a pickup and go go. 01:58:13
To the Payson area result, you're only looking in an hour, little over an hour or so. 01:58:18
Anyway. 01:58:22
Homeless that it for your for that part of it, it is. So we're gonna go ahead and take a break for lunch and then we'll resume 01:58:23
what we wouldn't do. We won't come back. 01:58:28
45 minutes. It's 45 minutes. Good for everybody. We're good with that. 01:58:37
Alright, we'll go for 12:45. We'll only adjourn. 01:58:42
Thank you. 01:58:46
OK. You guys basin, we'll pull this back. 01:58:48
Together it is one or 12:45. 01:58:52
And we'll continue on with C. 01:58:56
Information discussion regarding an update on recycling and Landfill Division revenues and expenditures. 01:59:00
Including projected costs for future capital expansion for the landfill operations Homer. 01:59:07
Good morning again. Ohh, good afternoon. 01:59:13
Or this work session is about landfills and Melanie Mendez is here she she manages the landfills for us. 01:59:16
And it's very knowledgeable and she will help me answer almost any question that can come up. She's also a very been instrumental 01:59:25
in developing this, this, this presentation. 01:59:31
And and this presentation is something that that is, is relatively new because we're we're looking at the landfill both going 01:59:38
backwards in time. 01:59:42
We're looking at it presently and we're also looking to the future. We're going far out into the future enough to. 01:59:46
Capture the expansion that would take place at Buckhead, Mesa and then the expansion that would take place here. 01:59:52
With cell 3B. 01:59:59
Which is right next to cell 3A. 02:00:01
And so we're looking at that, we're asking ourselves the question is how do we stand with this as being an enterprise that can be 02:00:03
supported itself over time And and so let's let's, why don't we look at that then. 02:00:10
If we could go to slide the next slide please. 02:00:18
There's one that. 02:00:23
Now so this is an aerial of the the landfill gear in Globe. Russell Gulch. 02:00:25
The layout shows the various stages for the Russell Gulch landfill. 02:00:32
The third stage, the third stage, is referred to as cell 3. 02:00:38
And you know that we're working on cell 38 today. 02:00:42
Uh, when cell 3A is fully. 02:00:46
You stop. 02:00:50
Umm. 02:00:51
We 9 1/2 years from now. 02:00:52
We would need to have cell 3B in operation. 02:00:55
Um. 02:00:58
So it you can see based on this this aerial. 02:01:00
The reason why we have to move the scales, uh, they would. People would have to take quite a detour going. 02:01:05
Up and down the different landfills before they would get the cell 3A. So and so we decided to move the scales to a location that 02:01:12
is safer and more convenient. 02:01:18
Next slide please. 02:01:25
A little bit of Russell Gulch landfill history. 02:01:30
In 1964 it was owned by Magma Copper Company. 02:01:34
It was first operated as a dump and then in 1973 as a sanitary landfill. 02:01:37
In 79, a private contractor. 02:01:43
Uh, manage the the landfill. 02:01:46
And in 1988, Pilot County purchased the landfill and assumed operational responsibilities a few years after that. 02:01:49
So we've been in the landfill business for 35 years at this point. 02:01:57
Thanks. 02:02:00
Hiller County has been doing that for 35 years. 02:02:01
ADEQ approved the stage 2. 02:02:04
Allowing for operation through 2023. 02:02:08
When it reached their full capacity.