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To them.
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Testing. Testing.
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Please.
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History.
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Chip.
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Alright.
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Testing, Testing, 1-2, three. Can you hear me?
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Alrighty.
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Can you hear me?
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But from testing 1-2 three.
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Good morning, everyone.
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We're going to get started here, pacing. Are you guys getting pacing?
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Yep.
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Thank you, Joseph. We're good here and Youtubes working this morning.
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Right on so.
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Thanks for being here this morning. It's Tuesday, July 11th. It's 10:00. O'clock straight up and we'll start this call to order
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the Pledge of Allegiance. And Tim, you want to lead us in the pledge and then next going to lead us in the invocation?
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I pledged.
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Space.
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Just, says one Nation.
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Small.
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That's this girl.
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Thinking that the US is in this meeting of the side with respect to people.
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Presentations on the escalator.
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That will spread to the weapon then.
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For me, the service bus.
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So these things and then just cross them.
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Thank you, Nick.
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OK, going on to #2 presentations to a presentation of information by Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers.
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Regarding the Senate Concurrent Resolution 10:37 and also we have Sunny Borelli.
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Dinner.
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Good to see you guys and Mark Fincham here. So come on up Wendy and.
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I'll let you get started. Or how do you want to do this?
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OK, that that's cool.
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Come on up, Sir.
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He.
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Retired Marine gunnery started, but this Colonel still has to supervise.
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Thank you.
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What do we do?
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So there we go.
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Test test near me.
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Think so? We're good.
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Emergency said. If you have static here so.
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Thanks for having me, supervisors chair.
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Umm.
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Senate Concurrent Resolution 1037 was passed out of the Senate in the House and sent to the Secretary of State's office.
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On the third of the May, excuse me, 3rd April.
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Well, hang on, Senator, Are we good?
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OK.
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So.
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Test test.
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Test test.
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That's better, Sam. Maybe that worked. Ask you the shot. Go ahead. Yes. Thank you once again.
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You know, we we passed the Senate concurrent resolution and send it to Secretary of State's office.
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And we know we ran a bill to actually.
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Put more restrictions and requirements.
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On electronic voting systems because.
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We are finding out through when we did the Senate audit and throughout other investigations nationwide, we were finding that there
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was components that are made in that are with these machines.
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Or electronic systems.
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That are made from countries that don't want to do us harm.
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So we tried to put some heavy standards on it, DoD cybersecurity standards, just in standards that we use for our weapon systems.
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However, unfortunately, the governor vetoed that bill. But so but it's on the Senate concurrent resolution.
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Still applies.
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I sent all Let Go letter back in on May 22nd.
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Of course the other side, the opposition says that the.
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The letter.
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One senator does not have the authority to dictate anything, and they're absolutely right. One senator doesn't. But that was just
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to alert you all about the Senate Concurrent resolution.
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And when it basically if you I'm sure you all read it.
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The resolution itself.
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But it highlights and there are facts and evidence that we found over the last three years.
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In other States and even the things that we know here in Arizona.
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That.
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Well.
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Reclaiming our plenary authority.
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Over federal elections, because that's where we fit in the US Constitution.
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Now under time, place and manner.
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Now the arguments will be.
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That the Senate Concurrent resolution does not have the weight of law. I beg to differ US Constitution.
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It is the law of the land.
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And of course they said well, it needs the Secretary of State's office had said well.
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This doesn't affect because they need the governor's signature.
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I disagree with that because in the US Constitution it doesn't say.
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You know, time, place and manner prescribed the legislature and the governor or the executive.
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Doesn't say that it says the legislature shall.
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Prescribed time, place and manner and electronic voting systems being manner.
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We're saying that please don't use them because they don't comply.
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With cyber security standards that that is necessary.
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Because technically.
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Even if you wanted to do a post election audit.
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You're prohibited to do so.
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And I will prove that by saying look at Cochise County.
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Coaches County wanted to do a 100% hand count of all their precincts.
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In the 22 election, and the Secretary of State's office interfered and tried to intimidate the board. The board wasn't going to be
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intimidated.
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They voted to move forward to do a 100% hand count of all their precincts.
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Of course there is a manner that they have to do. They have to do by law, certain races.
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Or they wanted to do that. So once they did that.
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And voted to go forward.
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Mark Elias got with a a nonprofit or retires E group and a couple of Democrats, either plaintiffs.
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Is so two coaches county to prevent them?
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From being able to do.
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They're prescribed duties to make sure that the elections are done properly and fair and if things are secure.
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Well, why did Mark Elias care about Lindo Cochise County?
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Because the statute says.
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The Secretary of State shall provide the source code to a special master that shall be appointed by the court.
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And those findings shall be made public to the court.
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And to the Secretary of State's office.
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So they tied coaches, county and litigation long enough to run the clock out to on the day they have to certify the election.
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And.
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And if they didn't certify the election on that deadline, they were threatened.
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And intimidated.
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With a felony.
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Once again.
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Use elected officials.
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Are actually being prohibited from following through and doing your.
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Your your due diligence and your duty to make sure that when you sign that certification.
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And everything is true, fair. Obviously, under penalty perjury, everything is accurate.
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Coaches County uses 2 systems the mail in ballots of your paper ballot, but they use the SNS systems. This is not about just the
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Dominion.
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It's also about ES and S.
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Yes, and their system they use in Cochise counties that touch screen.
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Well, you as the voter, you want to make sure that what goes in the system.
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Is the way you voted.
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But you cannot.
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Because the third party vendor literally has autonomy.
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And.
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Immunity.
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From any type of vote oversight meaning once again.
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They got sued by Mark Elias, the Democrat, their attorney.
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To block that type of oversight.
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This is tax dollars paying for equipment that has no oversight and that that should just.
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Make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up anyway.
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But.
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Without any kind of government oversight.
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That the citizens are entitled to.
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Is a travesty.
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We vote in public.
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Absolutely vote in private.
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But we count in public.
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This is about transparency. So what we're asking is a 100% hand count of all paper ballots being done by by the people under the
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supervision obviously, of your election director.
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And it can be done. It's not impossible.
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The opposite side will say that the law doesn't allow for a hand count.
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And of course, I argued this with a couple of the county attorneys already. I said show me a statute or the machines are mandatory
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to be used.
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They're not.
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It's not mandated by law to be used as a primary source.
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It's you. It's an option.
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So if it's, you cannot use a machine.
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Hello.
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If you're not mandatory, then how else would you count the ballots?
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You would do it by hand.
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They said there's nothing in statute that permits a hand count.
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So, well, show me the statute where it prohibits it doesn't.
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If you if you're not mandatory to use machines, mandate to use machines.
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Obviously you can do it the old fashioned way of counting ballots one at a time now.
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The opposition is going to say it's going to take too long.
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To do this well, we have 30 days of voting.
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Mail in ballots because it's sent out 30 days prior to the election.
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And they start coming in.
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So you have the ability to start tallying the votes.
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14 days prior to the election.
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I know in my county, Mojave County, 80% of the ballots that come in are all from early ballots from either from the mail in or in
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person at the County Library and so they can be done.
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In a timely manner and therefore we can, you can.
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Put all your effort into get Election Day voting and and.
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With consolidation of personnel.
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So it's just nothing more than pure logistics to make this happen.
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Once again, you're not mandated to use these machines.
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They are. There's so much evidence that these things can be. There's no.
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Faith in them and if you don't have.
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The ability of transparency, of looking into a black box.
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Uh, we're actually that's photo suppression in itself.
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So the citizens want to make sure that their ballots are being counted as cast.
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And I think the best way to do that is going back to hand count paper ballot. I'm open for questions.
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Thank you, Senator. This could provide your Humphrey.
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I I have no questions right now. Mr. Chair, Supervisor Christensen. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Senator Borrelli. I appreciate
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your presentation so.
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You're you're advocating for a mandatory hand count. Can you tell me?
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Do you know how accurate that will be? It's there could be human error.
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So can you tell me is there any statistics that show how accurate a hand count is?
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Thank you, Mr. Chair Out. You know, that's gonna depend on the volunteers and the supervisors.
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The Election Assistance Commissions.
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It actually says that there's a margin of of error.
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In electronic voting systems, that's acceptable.
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Is it 0 point?
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Zero 2%.
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Not a three million, I mean do the math on that.
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I mean, there's a margin of victory. We've had races one and lost with one ballot, one vote. I mean, Andy Biggs won his recount
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with 19 votes.
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But.
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Nothing is going to be perfect.
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But it can be done. It's not logistically impossible.
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There's several methods of doing it I prescribe.
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I team of five people.
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Counting one race at a time.
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And you do an assembly line count, a stack of ballots. 100 ballots counting. One race, three people counting.
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Two people marking and observing.
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And then you do that stack, you hand it on over to the others. So you get, let's say, for the presidential race and the next one
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will be the US Senate race and then congressional race, so on and so forth. You could do this with a team of five people. There's
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other methods in Texas that have been doing it with less and it's been taking them, you know, a few hours just to do.
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Yeah.
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3-4 hundred votes ballots, and that's an entire ballot.
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Not just one at a time, but.
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It's gonna be done in small counties like like ours or yours. I got Applause County, too. Small county. Yeah. Roughly less than
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25,000 votes last year.
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In the election and that can be done in 14 days.
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What, 5 hours a day with a team of folks Feel folks.
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And I'm sure the county chairs will.
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Ohh.
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The parties will step up and provide those volunteers, and you'd be surprised how many people are lining up.
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Signing up to Want to be able to?
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Count.
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Really complains. I don't. I don't want. I don't have any trust in faith and confidence in these electronic voting systems. So
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therefore I have no idea if my my ballot, my vote counted.
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Well, I believe if you go to a hand count, paper ballot.
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And the citizens are actually doing the.
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Count.
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Then they can rest assured that, hey, your ballot didn't count. I know which one it was in a big stack, but we physically counted
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every one of them.
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Uh.
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You know the opposition is going to come up with all kinds of roadblocks, but.
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You know there's a bulldozer we can, but we can plow through.
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Well, I am an advocate for voter integrity, absolutely. And so we just need to debate what the solutions to that are and this is 1
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possible solution.
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And etcetera. So one last question for me and that would be how does the county?
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Recorder come into this discussion.
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Will County report? Thank you Mr. Chair, the county recorder. Once that's all the signatures coming in, we'll make sure that the
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signature verification is completed.
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But that's where your county reporter would come into play to make sure that things are being done right. And they're they're
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elected officials. I mean, the elections don't belong to us elected folks.
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Elections belong to the people, right?
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Thank you, Senator.
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Senator, thank you. Thank you all today. Good information and.
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And then?
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Definitely to take in consideration. Senator Rogers, you have some you want to add.
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Mr. Chair members, I'm your senator. Senator Wendy Rogers from Flagstaff. I cover Coconino, Navajo, Olive Hilla and a big part of
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Pinal County.
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I want to speak to the wholeness of you as a county.
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You're one of 15 counties.
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In Arizona, we're unique because we have so few counties really. And so each county is very, very important even though.
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Heeler County is small. Mojave County is small.
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But the United States Constitution, as my colleague just reemphasized, endowed the state legislature.
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With the plenary, which means absolute authority.
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To determine time manner in place of Federal.
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Elections.
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And we take that very, very seriously. It's up to the county.
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To implement the election.
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So you may think, well, you know, we're a small county, we're rural, but you're fundamentally important.
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Because the United States, the other 49 states.
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Are looking right now.
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To Arizona.
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To lead.
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And we're in this.
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Unique.
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We're at this unique inflection point in history.
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So what you have right now on the border is an invasion.
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What we now have seen in theaters nationwide.
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As a child.
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Sex trafficking epidemic?
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What we have is an economy that is under siege.
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And many other ills.
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That have befallen our state.
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Because elections have consequences.
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And stolen elections have dire consequences. And we're facing this right now. And you say to me, well, you know, we have 180,000
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people here in Heela County. What can we do?
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You can lead.
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Maricopa County.
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There's not a county that Senator Borrelli or I represent, but they have 65% of Arizonans in it.
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And that is tilting the scales.
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And that is where we are today because of Maricopa County and the fraud and corruption.
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Senator Borrelli and I have seen on full display in the Elections Committee at the Arizona Senate.
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We've got the receipts.
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And so where do we fit in as small rural counties as your senators?
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This is where we step forward. This is where we are at the pointiest tip of the sword.
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This is where we other counties.
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In Arizona, say we're going to lead.
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By example.
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And we're going to follow this Senate Concurrent Resolution 1037 and you say to me.
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Where did you come up with that?
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It's a subtle nuance that the.
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The forefathers, our founding fathers of Arizona, put into the state constitution, thank goodness, over 100 years ago.
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It did not require the rubber stamp of the governor.
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It got transmitted to the Secretary of State to implement.
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And it's 5 pages of detail.
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Of the fact that in 2017.
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The United States government? The DoD.
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Said that election machinery is considered critical infrastructure.
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And as such is subject to security requirements ad nauseam. One of which is it can't be connected to the Internet. It can't be.
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Invaded, so to speak, by a nefarious actor adverse to the US government. All those things are proscribed in these 5 pages.
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That election machinery must adhere to.
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It's nylon to impossible for that to happen.
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To have the parts made in the US and to have everything the way it should be.
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So that's why we're talking about.
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Paper ballots.
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For the federal.
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Ballot.
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We tried, as my colleagues said, to get that passed for the state ballot. That had to be a bill that the governor would sign,
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which was vetoed. But we, the state legislature and you as the implementers.
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Still have control.
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Over the federal ballot.
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And the state.
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So you can do the complete right thing if you want.
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And conglomerate to two.
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Which we would highly advocate.
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And have that be.
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Paper.
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And Representative Mark Fincham behind me can speak to the actual ability to do that.
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Paper.
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Don't let the side opposite tell you it's gonna cost too much.
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Don't let this and by the way.
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As Senator Borrelli will tell you.
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It's been paid for.
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It's been paid for by 250 years of blood and treasure spilled for the freedom of this country, which is.
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Slipping through our fingertips.
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If we don't lead as the state of Arizona and we don't lead as individual counties, we're going to miss.
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An opportunity.
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To right the ship of state back on track. So don't let anybody tell you like the Secretary of State that you don't have legal
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authority to do this. They will intimidate you.
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And they will try to talk you out of this.
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But this is your chance right now to do right.
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And you have our fullest support.
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And who knew over 100 years ago?
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That the founders of Arizona.
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Would put this capability this Senate Concurrent resolution.
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Fat.
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And and ability into our state constitution for such.
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A time as this.
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Where it will figure so pivotally.
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And prominently.
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And saving our state.
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And our country and I, I go on these national interviews a lot and they go Rogers.
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What about the other 49 States and I say they should do this?
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And they are Shasta County in California.
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You're Balding County in Texas.
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What's the other one in Georgia?
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Spalding County in Georgia and seven other counties in Georgia.
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And growing.
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By that day.
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This is where counties can lead.
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And we need to partner with you to get this going. We've already presented to Mojave County.
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Which is Senator Borrelli.
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They are moving forward.
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Senator Borrelli and I are going to present to Navajo County.
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And to Pinal County after this.
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This is gaining.
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Steam.
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Why? Because we see what's happening in our state. We see the consequences.
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Of what will happen if we don't?
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Reclaim our plenary power to correct.
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Elections. I stand for questions.
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Thank you, Senator.
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Supervisor Humphrey anything?
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Mr. Chair, I have no questions. Supervisor Christensen.
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Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Senator. Colonel.
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Rogers understand completely. So I have no question for you though. Thank you.
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So.
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So Senators, I have a question for you guys, like going forward in the future.
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What can we expect to see through any kind of legislation in the state? Are you guys thinking about putting any other bills or
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anything to back this up or push it or or what? How, what are you thinking about there Mr. Chair Members, this is a standalone.
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Resolute document in and of its own strength, it already has passed the House and the Senate. It is a pillar.
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It is a rock of truth and implementability, yes, and I understand that. But I was just asking in addition, as I guess I should
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clarify. But Senator Borrelli, you have something there.
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Yes, Sir. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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You know, it's kind of interesting, but uh.
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Like I said.
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The bill that I I, I ran.
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Would have put several security standards on it. The source codes would have been.
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Held in escrow with the Auditor General, not the Secretary of State, to take the politics out of it.
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Senator Rogers ran a bill for critical infrastructure.
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It got better.
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Critical infrastructure.
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Got better?
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However.
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Governor Hobbs does an executive order to ban TikTok.
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On government equipment.
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But she vetoes a bill for critical infrastructure cybersecurity standards on all government equipment.
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Everything so going forward.
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We're gonna keep banging on that door until she rises up and starts doing things to protect Arizona and put the partisanship
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aside.
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Now.
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We'll just roll back the clock little bit.
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This is not about.
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Biden and Trump.
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It's not about Hobbs.
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And and late.
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This goes back to.
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Right after the.
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The 2016 election.
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Secretary of Homeland Security said in 2017 that elections are part of critical infrastructure.
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The US Senate held hearings back in 2019.
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About electronic voting systems when they had a man named Clinton Curtis come and testify before the Senate.
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How electronic voting systems can be hacked, How they're hacked, how they're already pre programmed and said you'll never find it
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because the results are going to always come out 5149.
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And the only way to find that out is to actually do a hand count.
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Like I said, trying to do a hand count, that's where the interference comes in on the post election.
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Camilla Harris, Senator Harris was even on the record stating.
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In that committee hearing.
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Now her staff witnessed.
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The electronic voting systems being hacked right before her very eyes were from a cell phone.
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The man who testified Clinton Curtis. He's the one who wrote the programs to make sure that the outcomes would come out a certain
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way.
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Now.
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Is he Republican? No, he's a registered Democrat.
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He testified in front of Senator Rogers Committee.
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So the answer to your question is, Sir, yes, we're going to keep pushing bills.
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To.
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Tighten up what? Our elections, because that's our first priority. Let's don't belong to us.
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It belonged to the people. They're entitled.
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To that.
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Transparency.
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So the answer your question Sir, no more politician problem like no, that's good. No and I agree with you on that. So. So today
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you got, you've presented to your your county there Molly and today you're presenting to us are are we the only two counties so
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far that you presented this to or is there other ones. Thank you Sir. No, I've had preliminary meetings with other counties so you
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know their vice chairs and and and we're trying to work through so that way they can get on we can get on their agenda because a
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lot of this is new.
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To them and.
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Of course the opposition from you, from the Secretary of State's office is the one all kinds of roadblocks in a way which is kind
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of ironic that the.
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You know, he he he's a lawyer and he knows the US Constitution.
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So. So he thinks Sense though but.
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Not to disparage her.
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Secretary of State but.
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You know, it's just amazing that.
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The opposition doesn't want to have transparency.
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That that's what's the most telling thing of it is they don't want to have any transparency like I said.
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You're not mandated using machines.
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It's literally a black box that you're not allowed to look into.
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As elected official and a taxpayers are paying for this equipment.
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No.
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Well Senators, I really thank you for taking your time out of your busy schedules. I know you're you're swamped and.
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And for coming up here and visiting with us this morning and and going from there, James, did you have a question or comment?
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What when we're done with those questions?
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Ohh OK well, I I think I've asked mine so far. So and I've got the Halderman report. Alex Halderman was caught. He's a professor
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at Wisconsin and Michigan or something like that. Yeah, in Michigan he he was, he was commissioned by the Democrats to do a report
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on electronic voting systems.
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This is.
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Prior to 2020.
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And of course, the report came out. He named Arizona.
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Is one of the 16 states that's vulnerable before the 2020 election.
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Well, a federal judge in Georgia.
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Sealed.
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Now report.
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And it wasn't till just a month ago, less than a month ago, we found that judge unsealed it. So we have a a redacted part that
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that we will send to you that highlights this EAC, Election Assistance Commission and CISA.
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The cyber security folks, they're the ones that examined the machines that Dominion, ESS, and.
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In Williamson, Tennessee.
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And that's highlighted in the example.
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In the SER.
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Where they had found an anomaly.
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Uh.
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An erroneous code that nobody knows how I got on there.
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Well then the manufacturer says what's OK, we fix it.
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Really. How do we know you fixed it?
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Well.
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The secretary states have the source code, so we're not going to be able to see.
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Because they won't give it to us.
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When we were doing this Senate audit, we tried to get the source code from the Senate, from the Secretary of State, Katie Hobbs.
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She refused to give it to us.
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We subpoenaed Dominion. They refused to give it to us because they're a private company.
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And his priority and we don't have any authority over private companies, so.
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Obviously you can see that there's no transparency.
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At all.
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And to try to make sure that there's any kind of oversight that protects.
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The citizens what they're entitled to.
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And extreme fear relations. Thank you, Senator James, Mr. Chair, members of the board. I just wanted to express appreciation to
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Mr. Mariscal, our Elections Director, and his team.
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Based on the the controls that we have, policies and procedures, checks and balances that have been implemented in HeLa County.
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That I know that.
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Through the Elections Department, we can provide assurance.
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That the elections for 20/20/22.
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That the results were truthful and accurate.
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And that the population, the voters of community county can have that assurance.
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That we do everything within our power and possibility.
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Checking.
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What we do before the election and after to make sure that the the accuracy of the counts.
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So I express appreciation to Mr. Moscow and his team.
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And all the many volunteers that come and support the elect.
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A truthful and accurate election in Heela County.
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So.
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Senators as as a small county, because we are less than 55,000, we take voting integrity very seriously, just like SEND,
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Supervisor Christensen said.
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And we have questions coming at us from all angles as you well know as as do yourselves. So this is something that we do stay on
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top of and.
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And with our elections department and with the recorder and the folks that we have in our small group.
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It's a constant topic of discussion.
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So.
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Yes, Mayor. Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you. Thank you, Sir, for that. And by the way, this is by way no indictment against your
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elections personnel.
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It's not.
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Because they're very dedicated individuals, we know that they want to make sure things are done right, but I don't think they
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fully, fully grasp the understanding of it.
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When you're voting by paper ballot.
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OK. And you're running it through tabulators?
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You really don't know.
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If the outcome is literally true.
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Now you do a sample afterwards.
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That you can say 2% and 5%.
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Well, that doesn't give you the bigger picture because the system has been designed.
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Clinton Curtis testified from the US Senate.
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Saying and in front of our our committee that.
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You're not going to find it in that way because the the outcome is going to be 5149 on obviously certain races that wanna be.
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Manipulated.
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And because you can't look into the system itself and you don't want to do that as opposed to election on it. Now let's say we do
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a logic and accuracy test. We do all these testing prior to, which sounds good.
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But it means that when you do a logic and accuracy test, you're actually certifying the equipment is operating properly at the
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time of inspection.
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But once the system is going on with the electronic voting systems, we're talking about a computer.
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But nobody's. Nobody's in here to a data guy. Unless you got the source codes to see if anything got changed, you don't have that
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ability.
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That's that's the real issue there.
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So I mean I'm, I'm convinced that your country is you know this cleans the, you know, hounds tooth but.
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The systems can be corrupted.
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And we need to take a stand and stop giving.
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Your authority over to a third party vendor.
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And it's complete autonomy and.
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Community because they're protected. Because they're a third party and they're not subject to a Fourier request for public
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information request.
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Senator Rogers, And if I could just piggyback on that.
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We don't know what we don't know.
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And I know that sounds simplistic.
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But as Senator Borrelli said, unless we can look into the machine, real time when votes are being cast on a continuous basis.
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We don't know what we don't know.
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And also.
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You're right, we just have a small county here, but because you are an entity, one of 15, you are more powerful.
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Than the number of voters you represent.
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You are one of 15.
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Very important entities in this state and hence this country.
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So you are sort of.
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The mouse that roars.
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And.
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I'd like to call up a representative, Mark Fincham, who is a subject matter expert.
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To speak to the implementability.
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And to the corruptibility on these two sort of mechanical.
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Aspects.
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Mark Chairman. Or have you just state your name and where you're from? Yes Sir.
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Now from Phoenix, formerly from Tucson and the Republican nominee for Secretary of State in 2022. Served in the Arizona House of
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Representatives for eight years.
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There's a couple of things that I've heard here and I'm I'm gonna ask you to set aside for just a moment the idea of inspecting
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the code.
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The question is, do you know?
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And I already know the answer.
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That the number that the machine gave.
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Matches the number of votes in paper ballots.
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As for every vote that comes to that machine, no, I mean, we don't. We we take, we take the sample, the samples and test those
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like we've talked about, but ask for every vote. No, that's exactly my point. You don't know.
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There is no transparency in the machine system. That's one of the reasons why myself and governor.
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Gubernatorial candidate Terry Lake.
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Are at this moment in front of the 9th Circuit Court.
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Challenging the use.
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Of black box ballot tabulation equipment.
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Black box being a term of art in the legal world.
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You can't see inside of it.
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Now I'm going to tell you something that is not widely known that in the Raphael Warnock election, you may have heard of that in
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Georgia.
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17 pallets of ballots were printed by Runbeck.
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And shipped to Georgia.
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Paid for by Dominion Voting Systems.
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Why did they have to have paper ballots shipped to Georgia for a specific election?
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If the election tabulation equipment were trustworthy.
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I'll tell you why.
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We had to have a match on the number of paper ballots.
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So the number of ballots counted in machines.
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I happen to know that.
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Because the fellow by the name of Bob Hughes assured that with me he was able to track down the PO.
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PO number on the ballots and verify who paid for it with Runback.
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That ought to make your blood boil.
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Because that's the kind of thing.
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That can happen when you're unable.
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To do a full hand count.
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Of paper ballots.
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Now once again.
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Senator Burley highlighted the fact that in law.
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There is no prohibition of doing the hand count.
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In fact, I would call your attention to the hand count roadshow.org.
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There is a system Louisiana has designed what they call the Clothesline System.
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It's about hand counting the paper ballots.
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At the precinct level.
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That's where you get the detail.
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So that's one of the things that I would advocate for.
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I am advocating for.
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Is the chief executive officer of the Election Fairness Institute.
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It's a nonprofit organization that's dedicated to one thing.
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Seeing to it that county officials.
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Have security.
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And transparency.
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You know, we hear a lot of talk about integrity. Well, that's an output.
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The input is having a secure system.
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That you can rely on.
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Now, the Holderman report showed categorically.
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The equipment cannot be relied on because of a security defect.
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If we're not so Williamson County, Tennessee.
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Would have had an exact match on the paper ballots versus the machine count.
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They didn't.
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Now, once again, Senator Borelli spoke to that.
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Said. Well, we fixed it.
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Really.
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How do we know? Can we see the code? I know you're just gonna have to take our word for it.
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What is so mysterious about the?
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Tabulation.
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Unless of course, it's a calculation.
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It seems stunning that so many elections come out 51% to 49%.
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That is a statistical improbability so high.
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It is not credible.
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So I recommend if you want to do a little bit of your own research.
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I'm visiting the hand count roadshow.org.
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And we are making plans to have that roadshow visit.
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Probably in Phoenix.
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I understand that there's quorum problems, so you're going to have to.
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Decide amongst you who might want to come. You can't all three come.
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But you'll see an opportunity to disprove the allegation.
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That it's a logistical nightmare. That it's a logistical impossibility.
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To hand count the number of ballots that you would have in your system. This is a classic throughput problem.
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If you have nice people and you have an efficient system.
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But quite frankly, the roadshow.
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Is doing a hand count demonstrating a hand count?
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Where they digital camera overhead?
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For ultimate transparency. Why? Because their live streaming account as it's happening.
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What we have right now is the crisis of.
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Faith in the system.
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That's what we're facing right now.
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And I I guarantee you.
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That your constituents right now are focused on one thing.
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Transparency.
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Thank you very much. I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.
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Thank you. Go ahead. I have a question.
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And anybody can answer it, what's the penalty for altering?
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An election.
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Well, Sir, it depends on whether or not you want to charge someone with treason. Well, yeah, I don't want to charge them with
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anything because I'm not capable. I'm saying what is the what is the penalty for altering?
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An election? Yeah, I'm talking about the ubiquitous day. OK, so if.
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It can be found that it is a criminal event.
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Criminal is going to require intent.
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If there's intent to alter the election.
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There's a number of different penalties depending upon.
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How the the charges come out?
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But at the highest level.
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I suppose that that individual could be charged with treason.
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And the reason I asked that because I mean you hear different things and there's a lot of things and and there's a lot of
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questions about the election, but but if there's not enough balance about ballots for particular party.
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At a particular voting station, and that's been proven.
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What's the penalty?
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What if? What if a marker is marked on a ballot that can't be read by the machine, so the ballots throw it out? What's the
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penalty?
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So.
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Supervisor Humphrey that would deal with.
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That's there's no intent there.
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That's just something that happens is part of the election process. Now one would hope and I'm sure that the Heela County
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elections officials.
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Have already tested a lot of this stuff.
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Do they have markers or pens that that bleed through?
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I'm pretty sure that he LA County was not affected by that.
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Like Maricopa County?
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My guess would be that he LA County actually proved all that stuff in advance.
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00:41:55
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To show we have to use this process, we have to use these tools. We have to use this paper.
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That's why you didn't notice the Heela County's name in the media.
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Something you should probably be very happy about.
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Yeah. Senator Barrel, he's probably got some additional perspective. OK. Thank you, Sir. Yeah. And the remedy to that, you're
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right. Like, you know, ballot on-demand printers.
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And they were the wrong size. It wouldn't go through the tabulator.
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Bleed through all those things.
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Guess what? All that stuff is eliminated.
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If you just do a hand count.
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If it goes through a ballot on-demand tabulator.
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It's not going to go.
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It goes to a ballot on demand printer. It's time to go through a tabulator.
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Because you're going to count it by hand.
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If it bleeds through, obviously you can see that it went through and it didn't affect. The other side didn't affect.
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00:42:47
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And that's why you have also have your observers or your county.
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Elections director and even.
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The parties have lawyers there in in that room when they're checking.
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But if you alleviate, alleviate.
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All those.
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Calculators.
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Electronic voting systems.
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Let's stop this song.
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Yeah.
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I hope I answered your question.
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Best you could. Thank you. OK, Supervisor. Christians, thank you Chairman. Thank you Representative Chairman.
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So I appreciate all of you good presentation.
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And I would just.
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Suggest that I would.
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Be I would not be opposed to having a work session on what we're doing in Heela County, how it's conducted.
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And whether or not there are options from the Board of Supervisors to improve it in any way that we deem necessary. So I think a
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work session would be something.
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To look at because I know I have a lot of constituents.
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That are very concerned about.
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Going forward?
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Mr. Chairman.
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I would be happy to have as one of the options that you could do.
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The demonstration of a hand count system.
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That would fit, I'm sure, into the Heela County system to replace.
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Mechanical or electronic tabulation.
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Thank you. All I need is the date and time we have here.
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Thank you all for presenting today. Very good. I really appreciate it and.
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Thanks for coming.
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Good to see you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I always say follow up with.
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Improve your net, Higher vet. There you go. Thank you.
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Thank you all. Thank you. OK, moving on to #3 public hearing.
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3:00 AM Information discussion Action to Adopt Ordinance #2023-05, Environmental Health and Repeal previously adopted Ordinance
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number 2014.
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Dash 02 Dash Hilo County Wastewater.
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And any other previously adopted wastewater ordinances and we have Josh Beck and Michael O'Driscoll. I guess we got Josh, Good
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morning, Chairman, Klein. Board supervisors also have Shake, Carrot and Alex Kendrick and Eric and the patient as well in case you
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have any questions. But so we have prevented this numerous times. Mr. O'Driscoll started this in 2021. We've taken our time with
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it because we're really trying to make sure we get it right. We had a.
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Couple different fee schedules for wastewater and for the food process and.
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We're trying to clean that up to make it really better for residents. It's better for us as well, but it's better for residents
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because before we had just all kinds of different charges for like mobile food units and all these different categories. And if
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you looked at it, you were just kind of confused.
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Now we're going to go in line more with what other counties have, which is a risk based system. There's four risk categories and
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that's how we kind of evaluate everything. It's more straightforward. It's easier for us to explain to somebody. It's easier for
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them to understand. It kind of aligns better with other counties. If somebody moves here, they're more aware of what it is.
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It really goes through part of what took it longer for us, it really goes through and it defines the powers that are delegated to
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us through the state of Arizona.
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It goes through and really defines. Here's all the powers that we have and how you know that process affects everything. We kind
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of spell that out way better now than what we had in the past.
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Um.
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The last edition that's really helpful is for the Tri-City Sanitation District.
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We've set in a what we call like a limp along permit.
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So that people that live in that Tri-City sanitation district have a cesspool that fails.
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This one I feel pretty good about.
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Thank you, Josh's supervisor, Humphrey.
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I have no question, Josh. I didn't thank you for the time and effort to.
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Put into this Supervisor Christiansen, thank you. Thank you Josh and Michael for working on this and your whole staff.
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And this has been ongoing and this is not like a new.
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New thing. It's just we've had a hodgepodge thing going on and now we're getting it. We're getting our act together and I like
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that. Thank you.
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Josh, thanks. Yeah, it has been a long time.
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Working on this, so I appreciate all your help. I think with that I'm gonna open up the public meeting part of it.
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Public hearing and Do we have anybody in Payson, Joseph?
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No Sir, OK.
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Nothing. No comments on YouTube and I don't believe we have anyone here. It's all closed the public hearing and entertain a
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motion. Mr. Chair, I move to adopt Ordinance #2023-05.
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Repealing Ordinance #2014-02 and any other previously adopted wastewater ordinances.
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Move your chair. I'll second that having a motion and a second.
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Ohh.
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Say yeah.
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All all in favor say aye. Aye, Aye. I think I got it right. Aye. Motion carries.
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I'm just learning to talk, Josh. It's OK.
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OK, on this number three, public hearings 3B Information discussion Action to adopt resolution #23-07-02.
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To name W Lone Ranger Trail in the Tunnel Basin area. Tom Holman. Good morning, Tom. Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the
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Board. Yep, Tunnel Basin is once again expanding and we need to assign Rd. names so we can assign addresses the residents there.
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Perhaps euphemistically.
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Selected Lone Ranger to go with Tonto.
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But um, you know, it meets all our standards, so.
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Here I am before you today. I'm willing to take any questions. Supervisor Hunt for any questions.
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I have met Supervisor Christensen. Thank you, Tom. Yeah, I have no questions. I think you'll probably be come to us more and more
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often. It feels like it's. Yeah. Thank you. And I'm good as well, Tom. So I'll open that up. Public hearings. Do we have anyone in
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Payson?
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No Sir. And no comments, anybody on YouTube and I don't see anyone here. So with that I'll entertain a motion.
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Mr. I moved to adopt resolution #23-0702.
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I will second.
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Having a motion in a second all in favor, do so by saying aye, Aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, Tom. Thank you.
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Okay regular agenda items #4A Information Discussion Action to authorize advertisement of request for proposals number.
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061423
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for Primary Banking Service for the HeLa County Treasurer Monica. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Mr. Chairman,
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Supervisor Christianson, Supervisor Humphrey.
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I'm here this morning to request to advertise a request for proposal for a primary banking service.
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And that's per ARS 35-325.
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Currently now our banking primary banking services with JP Morgan.
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Chase that expired June 30th of 2023.
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So right now the procedure is that I must advertise.
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And it's going to be in the pacing roundup on July the 17th, July 25th of 2023.
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With a bid due date of August 10th, 2023.
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Once those bids are in.
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All this will be reviewed by appropriate parties and that would be the county manager.
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Deputy County Manager, Finance Director and myself and a decision would be made to extend an offer to our new.
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Premier Banking.
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Contract for three years.
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So right now it's just a procedure to advertise.
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Thank you, Monica.
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Supervisor Humphrey and questions.
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No, just just the advertisement part of it. You know, if someone doesn't happen to read the paste paper, then they don't know so.
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We we've got into situations in the past, but anyway I I have no questions, gonna be on the website and I'm not sure I believe
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it's going to be available in the paper and also on the web, also on the web.
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Hearing.
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Mr. Chair, Supervisors. And just so you know, we do have a list of banks.
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And this will go out to all of them directly, so whether they get the payment or not.
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The the banks will receive the invitation and then if they choose to respond and they can. The last time we went out to bid, we
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received two bids. They were very competitive, so they advanced to an interview process.
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And then as.
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As Treasurer Wolforth mentioned, there was a committee that chose between the two bids for the successful bidder.
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Hi, Thank you very much for reaching out to the qualifying parties.
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Supervisor Christiansen. Thank you. Mr. Chairman. I have no questions. Thank you. Thank you. And I'm good as well. Thank you,
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Monica. And with that, I'd entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, I'll move to authorize the advertisement of request.
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For proposal number 061423.
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I'll second that having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, motion carries. Thank you, Monica.
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And on 2 for B Information Discussion Action.
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To approve agreement number 03162023.
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Between Hillary County and the Town of Payson in the amount of $73,000 to support public transportation services.
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In the patients Star Valley area for the calendar year 2023, James, this Chairman, I'm not going to get up, no. So yeah.
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Mr. Chairman, as you know, in southern Helen County we have to the copper bus system that we have here have contributed for a
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number of years, $73,000.
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Of.
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They pace in Senior Center, of course, in northern Healer counties.
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Began the B Line bus system several years ago.
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Are the Senior Center.
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That is not their primary focus. They wanted to divest from the the bus system.
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In northern Healy County.
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And thankfully, very thankfully, the town of Payson took over management and administration of the B Line bus.
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And Hula County.
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And.
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Opposing that is consistent and it's equitable that we have have.
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Partnered.
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With our partners here in Southern Nevada County to 273,000 a year that we do likewise in the northern part of the county. And so
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this is an IGA that we work with.
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The Northern bus system town of Payson.
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To support that transit system.
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To the $273,000.
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Thank you James Supervisor Humphrey.
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I have no questions. Supervisor Christians, thank you. Chairman. Thank you. Mr. Manlove. I have no objection to this. I just if if
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it's permissible to ask, how is the advisory committee?
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Are coming this first formation.
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As far as the.
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Transportation Advisory Committee Yes, I have a a meeting.
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Town of Patient has a meeting scheduled.
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Later this month. I'm not sure of the date, but I am planning to attend that.
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As far as the advisory committee?
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The next step as far as the.
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Intergovernmental partnership that we have is an IGA.
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And I'm working with CAG to continue to work through that idea that we can take it.
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I will work with CAG to take an IGA out to all the different communities.
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That will participate the six.
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Organized municipalities in HeLa County take that presented to their councils and that we can all consider an intergovernmental
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agreement to go forward on the I PTA.
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So two different, two different things, but they are both moving forward.
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There is a Transportation Advisory Committee.
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First meeting, Initial meeting.
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Later on this month.
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Thank you.
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And I don't have any questions for you, James. I'll entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, I move to approve agreement number 03162023
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with the Town of Payson in the amount of $73,000. I will second that Mr. Chair have a motion. And second, all in favor. Do so by
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saying aye. Aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, James.
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On the Foresee Information discussion Action to approve the use of Sourcewell contract number.
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090122 Dash GET with Code 3 technology.
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In the amount of $300,439.13.
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For the purchase of new laptops and vehicle docking stations and we have coal and carry.
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Good morning. You too. Good morning, Chairman, Board members. Today we come before you to address the important matter of the
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directly affects the efficiency and security of our Sheriff's Office. In recent years, we've witnessed the significant rise.
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And cyber threats and attempts to breach sensitive information, the safeguard.
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To safeguard our operations and to ensure the highest level of security, we have implemented multi factor authentication
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throughout the county.
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Multi factor authentication provides an additional layer of protection required multiple forms of verification to access critical
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systems and data.
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Our Sheriff's Office requires new laptops that meet the highest standards of reliability to update technology enhanced security
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features.
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These laptops are crucial tools for our daily operations and to provide faster, more secure multi factor authentication for our
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deputies.
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The current laptops we estimate to be approximately 10 years old.
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By equipping the deputies with modern laptops, we empower them to perform their duties efficiently and accurately. These laptops
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will enable our deputies to access vital information in the field, communicate seamlessly with our other departments, and maintain
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a secure connection while handling sensitive data.
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Moreover, they will.
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They will enable us to meet the evil.
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Technology requirements of law enforcement and adapt to the ever changing landscape of digital threats.
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I understand that the budgetary considerations are always a concern and, however, the long term benefits and the protection of our
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critical resources far outweigh the initial investment.
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I urge you to carefully consider the impact that requiring new laptops for MFA purposes will have an efficiency and security to
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our Sheriff's Office.
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With today's approval, the laptops used for sheriff's deputies will now be replaced every five years.
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Like the rest of the county's equipment, this will help us budget and ensure that we have the up-to-date hardware to address
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security needs and keep the county safe.
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We'll be happy to answer any questions you may have.
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Thank you, Kerry. Supervisor Humphrey.
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I have no questions. Mr. Chair, Supervisor Christensen, thank you. I have no questions.
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So where's the money coming from?
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This will be coming from Capital.
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Our capital.
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We have the money, James.
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Who's chairman? This is part of Coleman. So that investment from.
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The ARPA.
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Once. OK, so that's cool.
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So what happens to the old laptops that we replace? So the old top they'll laptops that we have will be decommissioned. Like I
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said, they're 10 plus years old, so they'll probably be.
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Sorry, they will, they will be. We have a company that we use for Easy Street that actually comes and decommissions our at our
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current any old laptops or computers that we may have and then from here on out then every five years these new laptops would be
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replaced at Diana.
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Routine replacement schedule, Yes Sir. So currently the current laptops they that they have are refurbished laptops, so when they
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get them they're refurbished at that point. So with these they will have new laptops which will have the multi factor
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authentication, which will have the fingerprint readers which makes it easier for the deputies to use.
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We tested multi different things to give them different ways to be able to authenticate and this was our easiest way for them to
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authenticate was with the fingerprint reader. So so another question so or when we purchased these laptops is that for every
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deputy position in the Sheriff's Office or is that just for the ones that are filled?
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We're purchasing it for every position we have a little bit of a deficit.
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But in case a piece of equipment goes down, we have them the ability to put that computer back in. We can take a brand new one off
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the shelf, deploy it right away. That way there's not a gap in.
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Abilities for the deputies. Cause I I believe you're down on deputies now anyway. Right positions, yeah.
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Don't quote me, but it's in the.
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Five to seven different positions were down, OK.
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Alright.
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Any other questions you two, we're good. Just one if, if.
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Well, if they're gonna be replaced every five years, how do we budget for five years away?
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We'll build that into our long term budget I.
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Camp Como said it's going to be within five years.
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It will depend on what the financial position of the county looks like and the prioritizing our needs.
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As we go.
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So I I can't say that in five years they're gonna be would be replaced.
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OK, so by approving this, we're, we're not approving that they're upgraded every five years. We're just not approving the purchase
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of them. In the worst case scenario, you know, say that doesn't happen in five years, there's going to be devices that are still
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probably in.
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Fairly good shape.
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We could replace probably the the worst 8 or 10 that are out there or they'll have some about this big that do everything, yeah.
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Yeah, we have the worst ones out there and move forward. If we get into a bad position like that without putting some, OK, yeah,
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just, just.
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Just looking ahead, just brought up some questions. So OK, thank you, Mr. Chair, thanks. We'll say on the number of pieces, items
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of equipment that they would they're per vehicle.
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Because these are going into vehicles, so it's not necessary.
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Authorized FTE. That's so that a vehicle is equipped.
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And able to meet the needs of the officer out on the field. So that's what we were intending to do, not necessarily on FTE.
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Umm.
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And again, this is part of the the plan that we had long term of committing $2,000,000 of technology so that we can upgrade.
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Our technology and.
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Not yet. They'll ask you enhance our capability to be more efficient.
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And what we do across the board.
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So the reason I asked about is whether or not you're purchasing this for every position that you have out there.
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As we know, technology is outdated in about 6 months from now.
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And so to go through and purchase a bunch of these laptops.
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And have vacant positions where these laptops even you have a good idea called that would they would be sitting on a shelf and.
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Readily available as somebody to break theirs or one goes down but.
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But then there may there's a possibility too. We're purchasing laptops that may not get used.
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That in a matter of a couple of years? A year.
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Six months, whatever it is.
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It's outdated.
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And so we've just thrown some money away, James.
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I believe the Sheriff's Office not trying to speak to you.
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Call that they're rotating their vehicle, so the equipment is being used, that's why it's not.
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Being assigned to a vacant position is assigned to a vehicle and the vehicle for the rotator. OK, and they're all used.
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Yeah. So that that scenario of having some kind of computer having it set for a year or two is is.
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Will not happen.
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Can I quote you on that later, James?
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Just kidding. Go ahead.
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Supervisor Humphrey did. Yes something. No, I'm good. Thank you. You're good. I think I am too. So thanks you guys. One thing like
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I got a question here for you. But.
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Sam.
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Official title.
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Sergeant, Sergeant.
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Yeah, it was the conduct crossword anyway. OK. Thank you, Cole. Thank you. Carry with that. I'd entertain a motion, Mr. Chairman,
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to approve the use of Sourcewell contract number 090122.
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Dash GET.
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With code 3 technology in the amount of 300.
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$1439.13.
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Mr. Chair, I will second that having a motion, and a second all in favor, diesel, by saying aye, aye, aye, aye, Motion carries.
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On to 4D.
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Information Discussion Action to Approve Service Agreement number 061423 Dash 1.
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With.
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Exicom incorporated to provide hindsight H4 multimedia logging recording system in the amount of $99,708.23.
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Through June 30th, 2024 and Cole interior up again.
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Yeah. So I didn't prepare anything quite as extensive as what Kerry had there. But essentially, this is a pretty simple piece of
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equipment we're looking to replace.
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The Sheriff's Office within our dispatch facility and Globe has what we call the recorder system and it essentially takes all of
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the phone lines within the Sheriff's Office, all our VoIP phones.
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All of the radio channels the Sheriff's Office uses and the fire medical radio channels.
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The Sheriff's Office uses.
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And it records those.
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For transparency, if the public requests it for after action, reviews, if there was a a critical incident for court cases, all the
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normal things we'd expect to see with something that records what we do.
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Umm.
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The current system should have been replaced several years ago. We've been working on trying to find a piece of equipment that we
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all felt comfortable with from the IT side, from the Sheriff's Office side.
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That worked well with their integration and requirements.
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And worked well with a supervisor.
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From the Sheriff's Office or in the dispatch center or in records, being able to easily log in has a.
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Very usable interface.
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To be able to gather whatever they need to gather.
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Save it and.
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Create a certificate that.
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What they did was.
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Complete and accurate when?
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Done.
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Done properly. So we we finally found a a piece of equipment we like. We found a vendor that we feel comfortable with to help us
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purchase the piece of equipment, install it, implement it, train.
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All the users and get us up and running and off the ground.
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That's really kind of the long and short of the equipment and what we're looking to do with it.
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Cool. Thanks. Cool.
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To provide your Humphrey, Mr. Chair, I have no question Supervisor Christensen and neither do I. Thank you. Looks like we're
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spending a lot of money on you today Cole. Thank you. I appreciate that. There is there is also a grant that was that they found
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funding for. Yes.
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So partial parking. Yeah, so.
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Coordinator Deborah Williams. She was asked to look for a grant. For this, she was able to find one to the tune of $49,000 even.
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And that will supplement the the purchase of this. Well, that's good. Thank you.
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That entertain emotion.
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Mr. Chair, I move to approve Service Agreement number 0614.
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23-1 with Exicom in the amount of $99,708.23. I will second that having a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye,
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Aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, Cole. Thank you, Carrie.
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Thank you. On to E information discussion action to approve the use of State of Arizona Procurement Office contract number.
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Ctr. 063770.
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With Iron Mountain Incorporated in the amount of $538,197.46.
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For the digitizing insight computer program, destruction of unneeded documents and transportation, pickup of documents and plans,
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Randy, we have you and Payson.
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Tomorrow, Karen Troop risers.
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As you know, this has been an ongoing want and need for the.
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County over several years, long before I was even here.
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Of digitizing community development files.
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We have.
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A couple Connex boxes full of archive files that are not.
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Climate controlled.
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And they're just sitting out there. They grow Moby and.
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And are are dying and we're trying to save all that.
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Plus all of the 67 file cabinets full of.
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Ongoing files that we have.
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Umm.
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I got involved in this about a year ago with Harry Jacobs.
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And uh, it's taken that long to get to this point.
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Basically we're looking at in community development around 72,000.
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Files.
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And.
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We're looking at about.
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Two and a half million.
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Different scans of paperwork than permits and inspections.
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And then we're looking at about 37,000.
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Uh.
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Plans.
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That are going to be scanned.
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They'll be put into a insight system.
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Which makes anything that's on those plans are on those paper.
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Recognizable.
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We've been working with IT to ensure that everything works together and with the new permitting system that all that's going to
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work together.
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So that somewhere down the line we can turn this over to the citizens.
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Where they can look up their own items, so if they want to know something about their parcel.
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What's there? What's not there? They don't have to come into the office.
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And then staff doesn't have to go pull.
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A file line? A file cabinet.
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Talk with them over the counter and then go make copies and so on and so on.
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They'll be able to be at home and research this stuff on their own, print it out.
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They have whatever information that's in there that's accessible.
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Um, this is involving?
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Quite extensive, there's this is a not to exceed number.
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Because we first of all, we don't know exactly how many pieces of paper there are. We did not count two and a half million.
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But that over the companies.
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Experienced that average is what they came out, They have been to our site, have looked at our files, have went through them
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several times.
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We've had staff go through them to.
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Uh, kind of verify the numbers they came up with and and the idea of all that.
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Umm.
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Right Now what the they had.
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Propose.
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Was.
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That they will come pick up the files, take them, scan them.
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Put them all back together and then bring them back to us.
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Well, we're finding out through the state archives.
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That we don't necessarily have to have those back.
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Um, a lot of those are going to be destroyed.
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Obviously.
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Destroying the.
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Files would be a lot cheaper than.
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Um.
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Having staff or having their staff.
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Putting them back together and bringing it to us and then us refilling them again and.
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Um, it doesn't seem like a a.
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A good plan overall.
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But under state archives we have to keep so many files or certain files.
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Uh, for permanent.
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So we are not going to get rid of all file cabinets.
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But I sure hope to have a.
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A. Fire shell on file cabinets at the end of this process.
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The current time frame is route 10 months.
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To get this accomplished.
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At that point.
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The computer program, the insight that you talked about is the program that recognizes the scans.
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And we'll make it searchable by anyone who has access to that.
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And we are working on all that and verified with other departments.
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How this will work? IT has been involved.
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Other departments are looking at going through the scanning.
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We're just happy to be.
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One of the bigger ones.
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Moving forward, all the staff and it's already been purchased.
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All the staff will have scanners at their desk and at the front counters.
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So any paperwork coming in will just automatically get scanned.
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And we won't have to hopefully go through this again. It will be an ongoing.
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A process to ensure.
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That the citizens had and staff have the most.
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Up to date access to all their documents.
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I'll be more happy ohh this is coming out of the ark money.
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So if you have any questions, I'd be more than happy to answer them. Thank you, Randy. Supervisor Humphrey.
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This one Randy, is is there a length of time that you need to keep records or just as far back as you get and as much information?
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As you have, just keep it for as long as you can or.
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Of.
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Just for information for the public.
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We have a documentation.
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Timeline that is approved by the state.
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Some are permanent.
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A. A. A.
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Permit card.
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It's permanent.
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A plan of the houses is 90 days.
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A plan for a.
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Commercial business is one year.
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Uh.
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We've kept them for a lot longer than that.
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Um, basically because they're all in a file and you know, you'd have to pull those out and.
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Everything else we did set up a system that we can get rid of.
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Plans on a timely basis and we have them all dated by.
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Time.
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01:13:53
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But the states the one that determines that.
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Uh, what are permanent? What are not permanent?
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And it's stated in the archive.
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That if it was created.
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By.
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Hand.
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You have to keep it permanently, so we have.
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I'm gonna say several 100.
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Uh.
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Hermitage.
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They were created by hand. They were actually handwritten out permits.
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Those will be permanent.
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If they're completed.
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Started by the computer.
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Then we can scan those and get rid of those.
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I will say that the archives may not be up to date on all the options.
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Because they still like microphone.
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So I haven't seen one of those projectors in years, but that's kind of where they're at. So yes, there is a limit and there if you
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exceed that limit, then you actually are in violation also.
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Because if you tell me you're going to keep this for six months and you keep it for five years.
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You're actually still in violation of the retention schedule.
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01:14:52
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There's still this company that's gonna take everything you have and do it all up nice and neat and not give it back to you.
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Then you're going to need to, I guess, to inventory what you give them.
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So the stuff that you don't need to keep or or things of that nature.
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01:15:09
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Uh, you're going to have to deal with that prior to them scanning everything. Is that correct?
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01:15:15
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Correct. And they need all the requirements for the handling. They actually inventory every piece of document that comes to them.
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They do this all across the area.
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Um, they're huge.
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But they document everything that we give them.
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We have certain stickers on, like those handwritten permits.
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We have those as documented that those need to come back to us.
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But the other ones don't necessarily need come back to us and then we'll have them destroyed. They will also provide us the
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documentation that we need to give to the state when we destroy a document.
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And they will ensure that all the paperwork that is required by the state.
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Is followed and they do this all the time.
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OK. Yeah. No, just question, ask and answer. Thank you very much.
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Supervisor Christiansen.
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Thank you, Chairman and thank you, Randy. Yeah, we we've known this is coming along and.
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I find some things curious and funny. In fact I find most things curious and funny how we have discussed this morning about
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converting our voting into non electronic, non tabulation paper count. Humans only.
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And now we're going to completely go the other direction with digital files. And I I just find that humorous.
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But I know we need to do that.
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So thanks.
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Yes, Sir.
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Randy, thank you. I think this is that.
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Obviously you haven't digitized and and.
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Readily available for whoever needs to pull it up is a good team.
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Comes with the big cost and I guess that is the ARPA money as well, so.
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But this will set up the only thing I would be curious, Randy. And I know, I know, maybe I already know the answer to my own
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question, but.
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What about mess ups? Or how do you know everything's going to get through and be put in there that you're going to need? Is there
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any guarantees?
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I guarantee probably not, but this is a pretty efficient company has done it for other jurisdictions.
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We'll document the files.
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One of the things we're doing the plan is, is that let them take the archives out of the unex office.
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Both here and patient and morning glow.
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Practice on that.
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Make sure that the quality of those are our worst files anyway.
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To make sure the scans are up to the quality, that are readable and doable and everything else.
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Um.
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And then once we approve that then they will come and get other.
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Portions of the files that's at a time.
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They've actually even implemented.
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That if during the scanning process. So in other words, there's a.
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File that a customer comes in that we really have to have.
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But it's in their possession.
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Dave actually committed to go out, pull that file, scan it and send it to us.
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So the customers aren't going to be.
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Put out more than that necessary to get this accomplish.
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OK. Thank you, Andy.
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That entertain a motion, Mr. Chair, I move to approve the use of State of Arizona Procurement Office contract number Ctr. 063770,
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with Iron Mountain Incorporated.
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In the amount of $538,197.46 is presented.
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Mr. Chair, I will second that having a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye, aye, aye, motion carries. Thank you,
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Randy.
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Onto Earth Information Discussion Action to enter into an agreement with Salt River Project.
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For access and construction purposes consisting of excavation.
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Folder placement, barricades and other related barrier placement activities on land located near a crossroad and to authorize the
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Chairman to sign Salt River Project construction license number.
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94886 for the period August 1st 23.
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Through August 1st, 25 and we have Homero.
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01:19:20
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Good morning. Good morning, Chairman and Board members.
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Tom Goodman was supposed to be the presenter, but the Army Corps called us yesterday afternoon and wanted to come visit what we
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had done at Bloody Tanks, and I asked Tom to.
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Represent the county on that site. Visit SO.
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That's why I'm acting in his behalf this morning. So this is a request to enter into agreement with Salt River Project for a
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construction easement. They call it a licensing agreement, but it's really a construction crew, simply just a construction
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investment. It's a two year agreement for us to do work.
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Uh, and and and use their property to to do that work. And then we move out and we no longer have have a license to do any
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additional work beyond that.
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The proposed work is located on the East End of a crossroads.
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And like you mentioned, the work consists of excavating boulder placement, barricades and other related barrier placement
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activities.
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On the A+ crossroad.
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The contractor that's on the Counter Creek Project project will place the boulders in a berm.
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As part of the restoration project.
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The road will be permanently closed and rehabilitated, also as part of the Conflict Free project by the contractor.
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So it's our recommendation that the that the Board of Supervisors enter into this agreement with Salt River Project. And with
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that, I'll take questions. Thank you, Homer. Supervisor Healthcare, I have no questions.
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Supervisor Christian, thank you. No questions.
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So you said the east side across the, did you mean the the West End that the bridge?
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Umm.
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There's a, there's a, there's a map fixer available on the and it shows the east side as as being.
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The circle up there.
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Yeah, he's inside.
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So.
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Whose jurisdiction is this?
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Pardon me, whose jurisdiction is this that that property belongs to some river project?
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It's surrounded by the forest.
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At Aboriginally we thought it was for profit.
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When we then when this project was first Invasion, then the contract was put together.
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That particular area that we're working on belongs to Salt River Project.
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Hmm.
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So.
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So what you're saying is this property is just right off of the the 288 it's right off of?
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The apartment.
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Umm.
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At the apartment on the east side.
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On this side of the bridge and east side of the bridge, OK. When you said east side of a cross, I was literally thinking across
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OK. Thank you, Homero.
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I don't have any other questions either that I didn't paint a motion.
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Mr. Chair, I'm I moved to enter into an agreement with Salt River Project and authorize the chairman.
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To sign the Salt River Project construction license number.
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94886 as presented, I will second that having a motion, and second all in favor do so by saying aye, aye, aye, motion carries.
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See information discussion Action to adopt resolution #23-07.
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Dash 03 to authorize the Chairman signature on the Arizona Department of Transportation.
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Intergovernmental Agreement #20-0008 Zero 60-I.
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Amendment #222-000 Eight 760-I.
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Tunnel Creek Bridge construction. Homer, thank you. I'd like to offer some introductory remarks before I get into this agenda
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item.
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The amendment is required because we received additional grant monies. We received $250,000 in addition to what was originally
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provided for us in the in the initial grant.
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Uh, the work on the bridge is progressing very nicely. 41% of of the hours that were on the contract, 41% of the hours are
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consumed. We're almost like halfway there.
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The work is scheduled to be completed next June.
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Work is taking place right now on Gabions.
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Uh, they're they're doing the forming and the pouring on columns on pure caption on a bit abutments in the next couple of weeks,
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so you should be able you can't see the work from from the highway as you drive by.
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And it'll be more prominent in the very near future.
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So the Board of Supervisors approved the original IGA with a dot on May 25th of 21 for the bridge construction.
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And on June 3rd of of of.
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2020 Second, the board approved Amendment #1.
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We have looked at that. Those documents that we felt like they were didn't really express the numbers. We went back to a dot when
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we received the 250,000.
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And we asked them to review those documents and they did some edits.
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And I'd like to share a spreadsheet that's actually up there and it's in your package.
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That that best explains the flow of money.
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But Amendment number 2 will revise the project cost to include the $250,000 increase in the bill and the bill grant.
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Um, and the execution of this amendment and the receipt of the additional after receiving the the Additional Bill grant.
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The county will be in reimbursed in amount of 32,450 and if and if you look at the spreadsheet that's up there.
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Uh, it's a very top of the spreadsheet. Uh, the first box that you see are the costs associated with the bridge. There's a utility
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relocation cost.
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Biological monitoring, cost image construction.
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That, by the way, has not changed. That's the original contract that we received from Ames. We still have at least 75% of our
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contingency left on that contract. Things are working very nicely at this point in time.
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There's a, there's a construction administration of a little over two million, $2.5 million with ADOPT. There's a contingency
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amount that I just mentioned is at least 75% in fact at this point for our construction total of just a little over $25 million.
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OK.
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The original bill grant provided a little bit over $21 million.
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Umm.
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And the county share the difference of of those two numbers is a little bit over 4,412,000 dollars 600 and.
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605 dollars.
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4,004,605 dollars.
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So that was the the county share that's required, the county has paid.
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So far 3.7 million a little over 3.7 million that was in two payments.
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And the difference that's still needed is $217,000 and 2000.
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To $217,550.
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And the additional bill grant provides 250,000.
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And that's the difference that I that we just mentioned a minute ago that that we would get reimbursed 32,449 when the project is
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done.
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Are given that we don't exceed our contingency, OK. So basically it's a I think it's good news, it's settled, set everything up
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and there's a little bit of money left over at the end of the project. So we would like to recommend the adoption.
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Of Amendment #2 by the Board of Supervisors.
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Thank you, Homer.
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Any questions? Supervisor helping? Mr. Chair, I have no questions. Thank you.
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Suffrage Christiansen Only one Where did that 250 come from? The state or federal? Federal OK.
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Thanks to the people before me.
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This actually has been around for a while.
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It's just that they don't belong while to figure out the the, the, the accounting for the project.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Omar. I'm good with that idea kind of motion.
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Mr. Chairman, I will move to adopt Resolution #23-07-03 and authorize the Chairman signature on the Arizona Department of
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Transportation Intergovernmental Agreement 20-0008, Zero 60-I and then number 222.
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Dash 0008760 as presented.
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I'll second that Mr. Chair having a motion, and second all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye. Motion carries.
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Onto age, information, discussion, action.
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To approve the use of State of Arizona Procurement Office contract number ADOA Ctr. 058876.
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With Kimley, Horn and Associates incorporated.
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In the amount of $472,000 to update the Four service Hwy. 512.
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Environmental documents and clearances with the completion date of September 9th, 24 Homer.
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Thank you.
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So on September 6th of 2022, the Board approved the USDA Forest Service Rd. Project Agreement.
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Which Provided $472,000 as a grant to undertake the environmental document.
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For that portion of 512 Four Service Hwy. 512 that has not been paid.
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They provided this funding.
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We'd like to utilize it and we'd like to utilize Kimley Horn's services through to complete the environmental service.
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And those things are the environmental.
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The environmental assessment.
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Would include the of course, the biological, the archaeological, the 404 scoping with all the all the required entities.
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And also it would include 60% of the design work for for the road itself.
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So when we would be finished with the environmental assessment work, we would have most of the design work for the road already
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done.
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Right.
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Um, and there we would like to the grant actually has a a term limit. We would like to meet be compliant with that with that term
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limit.
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And and therefore they're the request is.
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Umm.
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It's the The proposal and scope of work by Kim Lee Horn has been reviewed by the Forest Service. They'll be sure that the project
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would not be missing any elements at the end of the contract.
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Uh, the owners Contingency. There's actually.
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Can We Horn would like to charge $402,000.
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And leaving 69,000.
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$212.00 in that grant amount available. We'd like to keep that as that owners contingency in case anything shows up. If nothing
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happens then that we probably will have to ask the four service if we can use that money for something else or return it.
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But there seems to be ample funding in the grant to undertake the environmental assessment.
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And and we do have a a time frame that we've incorporated into the into the agreement with Kimley Horn and that's to complete
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complete the environmental assessment by 9/9 of next year, 2024.
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And with that, I'll, I'll take questions.
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Thank you, Homer. Supervisor Humphrey, Mr. Chair, I have no questions. Supervisor Christensen, thank you. No questions. There's
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472,000 Homer. That's the money or James we got from Senator Kelly.
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Is that right?
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No, I I don't.
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I'm sorry, So where Where did so where did money come from?
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It's a federal grant.
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Or to our service. OK, it came through the Forest Service to us.
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OK.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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Maybe we can get something done, Homer.
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We if I could.
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We're also applying for.
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Money through keg to finish the design.
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We're submitting a grant at at this time. Tom is preparing that and working with KEG.
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We're submitting for monies to finish the design and and obtain some pavement. The grant size is $1.8 million.
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And we'll be sharing that with the board in more formal fashion.
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In the in the near future.
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Sounds good, Homer. And I don't know if any of you guys have been on that North Rd. in the last.
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While but it is totally mucked out.
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So, and it's gotten to the point where.
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No matter what we do with motor graders or anything else, it just it stays beat out. Traffic is unreal, speed is high.
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The whole 9 yards, so.
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It's it's done but.
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Surprise the helping Yeah, that pavement will slow him down no longer, but but it'll sure be nice to him, my trailers and stuff,
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so.
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Anyway, we need coal up there by well, what can we do by Saturday?
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Cross your fingers, I guess. I don't know.
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Homework. Thank you that I entertain the motion, Mr.
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I move to approve the use of.
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Of State of Arizona Procurement Office Contract number ADOADTR.
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058876 With Kimley Horn and Associates incorporated in the amount of.
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$472,000 as presented. I'll second that having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, Aye, aye. Motion carries.
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Thank you, Homer. Thank you. Appreciate it. On to I information discussion, action to approve Amendment #2.
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To State of Arizona Contract Agreement number Ctr. 050894.
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So Jenna served to extend the term of the contract for an additional year to June 30th 24 for a not to exceed contract amount of
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$206,503.15 Chris.
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Good morning, Mr. Chairman Support.
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Simple thing appeared too fast for your approval to continue another year for our janitorial services.
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Cool. OK, Supervisor Humphrey.
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I I have no questions. Does it go out to bid?
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No, not yet. This is the end of the third year that we had as an agreement with the janitorial service. OK. We go out for three
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years and this is the last year and this is the last year and then it will go back out to business. OK. Thank you.
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Supervisor Christians and thank you. No, don't have anything. I'm good. Chris thanks that. Other chairman. Yo, yeah. Can I have
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clarification and Chris, what?
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Territory does this cover quantify what exactly we're It covers North and South.
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Heal accounting. So it's it's up in the Payson area it's down here in globe.
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The price hasn't increased since.
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The Amendment #1.
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Just because we haven't had any additional square footage yet.
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So I see possibly next year that it will be increased.
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But we'll have to wait and see.
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Thank you for that, James.
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Now I'll call for a motion.
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Mr. Chair, I move to approve Amendment #2 to State of Arizona Contract agreement number Ctr. 050894 with Jennifer with the not to
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exceed amount of $206,503.
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$0.15 and extend the contract to June 30th, 2024.
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Mr. Chair, I'll second that having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank
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you, Chris.
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On the Jay information discussion action.
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To approve an independent contractor agreement contract number 07012023 Dash 24, between the Arizona Community Action Association
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doing business as WILDFIRE and the HeLa County Community Services Department.
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Community Action program whereby welfare will administer funding in the amount of $125,800.
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Which will be used to provide weatherization services, utility repair and replacement.
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Utility Deposits and Bill assistance to eligible citizens residing in HeLa County for the period of July 1st, 23.
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Through June 30th, 24 Kelly.
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Good morning, Chairman, Members of the Board, good morning. Like you said, this is a grant that we received for weatherization
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services for our community as well as utility repair and replacement.
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Um and assistance with utility deposits and bills.
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This grant has no matching requirement and has been very helpful for our community in the past.
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Thank you, Kaylee. Supervisor Humphrey questions, comments. And just one, are you having any luck with local contractors working
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with you on some of these projects? So yeah, we have contracts in place. There are some requirements that our contractors have to
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abide by. So that has been a bit of a struggle.
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But um, but we have had success.
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OK. Thank you, supervisor.
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Thank you, Kaylee. No questions. Good job, Kaylee. Thank you kind of motion.
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Mr. Chair, I move to approve.
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An independent contract agreement. Contract number 07012.
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023-24 with the Arizona Community Action.
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Association.
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Wildfire in the amount of $125,800 as presented. I will second that having a motion and second all in favor do so by saying aye
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aye aye aye Motion carries on decay.
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Information, Discussion, Action to approve a Memorandum of Understanding.
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Between the Homeless ID project incorporated H IDP.
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And the Hila County Community Services Department for the period of July 1st, 23.
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Through June 31st, 24, whereby the Community Services Department will be a.
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HDP affiliate in order to procure replacement identification, identification documents.
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For eligible Healey County residents experiencing homelessness, Kelly.
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Mr. Chairman, Members of the board, this agreement has no funding attached to it, but it will be beneficial in helping people in
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our community who are experiencing homelessness.
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We can help them get vital documents such as photo IDs and birth certificates.
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Um, this is something that people often kind of stop the process because it's it's a lengthy process. Or has.
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Fees associated with it and through this agreement we can help mitigate those issues for our clients and help them.
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To, you know, come out of homelessness on the other side.
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Supervisor Humphrey questions comments. I have no questions.
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Supervisor Christiansen.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Kerry. Yeah, this is.
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That's great. Thank you.
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So.
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We've been doing this before.
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No, this is the new new agreement with the Homeless ID project that just came about.
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OK, so I see a lot of advantages to this for folks take advantage of this deep.
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So you haven't started it yet, right? You're going to when's that start date going?
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Yeah.
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The agreement says July 1, so as soon as it gets approved, we can begin.
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So I'm really curious as to how many people would take advantage of this, I mean or use it, not take advantage of it, but use it.
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I mean that would be something to see. I'm I'm curious to see that you know?
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I I always makes me wonder, well, homeless people, you know, if they're.
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Off the grid for a reason maybe?
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You know, or some of them just struggling and trying to get back on their feet, Which documents like you're willing to help them
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with is a huge plus. So this will be something.
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Kind of cool to watch and see how it does for you. Yeah, absolutely. And we'll we'll be starting to have metrics that we can bring
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back to also let you know how successful it's been. We would appreciate an update. Thank you that I'd entertain a motion and Mr.
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Chairman, if I may add this one and that's the people in the past and my self included.
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There's been a stigma for homelessness, but.
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The things have changed quite a bit now to where people that don't want to be homeless are becoming that way or they're becoming
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in this transitional state.
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Either of their rent, they're they're renting something they can't afford any longer, they've lost something like their car and
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they can't fix it, then they can't go to work that it's just a big thing. So anyway, I thank you for that comment. And with that,
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I'll make the move to approve a memorandum of understanding with the Homeless ID project.
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Incorporated as presented.
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Mr. Chair, I'll second that having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, Aye, aye, Motion carries. Thank you.
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Honda L Information Discussion Action to adopt the Fiscal Year 24 Proposed Salary Salary Plan Positively affecting.
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All 459 of the county's full time employees and utilizing.
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$1,504,716.00 of available budget capacity to implement the Fiscal Year 24 salary plan.
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Effective the first full period period in 24.
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Man, that's a mouthful.
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Good morning, Mr. Chair.
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Supervisor Humphrey, Supervisor Christensen.
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We did use the computer to do the math. There was number black box involved and the numbers that went in matched the numbers that
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came out and they were verified by at least three other professionals in the room.
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When we brought you our.
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Our proposed budget a couple of weeks ago and.
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And as we talked about a variety of things preparing the budget this year.
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We talked about what capacity was available for.
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Creating a.
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Wage increase.
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Positively affecting as many of our staff as possible.
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The plan that we have come up with that's illustrated here.
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Positively affects all 459 full time regular employees here at Gila County.
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It uses $1,504,716.00 of available capacity.
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Of that.
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Just over 1,008,000 is from the general fund.
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And then 496,000 would come from the special revenue fund.
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This also includes enough funding to cover the benefits linked to those those salary increases.
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Included in the calculation was making sure that the lowest pay grade would come up to $15.00 an hour. That's $1.20 per hour
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increase from our current lowest pay rate of 1380.
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We are working to make sure that the separation between pay grades is 2 1/2 percent.
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And that that systematically increases as we go up through the pay grades.
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And.
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That it create that it works to reduce compression.
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We also know that there are additional challenges with compression and.
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On paper performance.
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So in addition to this 1,500,000 that we're talking about.
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To be effective the first full pay period in July, we also are proposing to build in 1.6%.
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To be used at the departmental level.
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And I don't mean.
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To give free rein to department directors, I mean to.
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And to ensure that each department can have.
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Have capacity for pay, for performance and to ameliorate compression issues.
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Umm.
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We would talk later about.
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What exactly those criteria were, But we wanted to make sure that this discussion came to you separate from next week's final
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budget adoption.
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So that not only could you have a conversation about it, but you could also.
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Um, have documentation now and for the future, for all your constituents and for all the staff.
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That these considerations were taken seriously, that that we looked at all of these items.
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And took your consideration seriously. We've been talking about the budget for five months now.
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And we we worked as closely as we could with everybody we could to come up with this.
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So the base adjustment pay for all employees is 4.9% with this.
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Then there's a second layer.
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That would ensure that the minimum salary increase.
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Would be $3000 for the year.
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So.
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What that works out to is any employee making less than.
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Right now making less than $61,225.
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Will receive the minimum $3000 annual increase.
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And then the salary increases range from 9.75% to 4.9%.
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And some of the.
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Salaries on the the lower end, closer to entry level, needed a little bit more adjustment, so we worked together with.
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With staff to develop that.
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That range. So we're here to answer any questions for you and to give you whatever other information we might.
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Be able to provide.
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Thank you, Mayor.
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That's a lot to think about here in the next minute.
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Supervisor Healthy.
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Mr. Thank you. Yeah, I I looked over this and and there was an awful lot of thought.
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The and in two.
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These calculations I mean, when I looked at it, I I was pretty impressed with.
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Of of the thought that went in of all of the different.
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Ranges that you had to deal with with the minimum wage and on up. So I I just appreciate all the.
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But you know, you could have thrown something together to put to us and you, didn't you, you you put an awful lot of thought and
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effort into this and appreciate it very much. And I'm sure that the employees will as well. I wish I could take credit for it.
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There were 11 different iterations, Mr. Menlo.
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Was super helpful in in addressing all the nuances.
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My plan was not nearly this elegant or or well thought out so.
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It it is definitely a product of teamwork and I'm really, really fortunate to work with great people who.
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Who put a lot of time and effort into this?
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OK, then I won't give you all the credit as I you thought I did before.
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They.
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Thank, thank everyone that worked on this and maybe we need to get them a little plaque and have them stand up front employee of
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the year or something, but thank you very much.
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Supervisor Christensen, Yes, thank you Chairman and thank you Mayor. And and I'll just say thank you. We're credited due.
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And I think it is a good plan and I'm just going to ask and you can just give me a round about you if if you know so on this
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second layer minimum pay adjustment 3000 would be.
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The minimum.
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Amount someone would get. How many employees does that affect?
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The employees, would that be 102 hundred? I think it's almost 300, but I'd have to look at the list at 2:30. So it's it's a.
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Vast majority of all vascularity, right? Or at least 50%. So OK, good. Here's more closer It's over 60 percent, 60%. It is a
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significant number of employees that.
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Yeah, I'm glad to see that. Thank you.
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Thank you, Mayor. Thank you James and everybody else I Yeah.
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And if we can help more people, especially at the bottom end, I know you know that's where my heart is, is at the lower levels,
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not at the top, so.
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But thank you very much for what you put together. I appreciate it.
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That I didn't take a motion.
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Mr. Chair, I moved to adopt.
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The FY20 24 salary plan.
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As presented, I will second that having a motion, and second all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye, motion carries.
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Thank you, Mayor. And you got one another one. So.
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Him Information, Discussion Action to Adopt Fiscal Year 24, Full Cost Allocation Plan, and CFR Code of Federal Regulations.
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Cost allocation plan man.
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Good morning again, Mr. Chair, Supervisor Christensen, Supervisor Humphrey.
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I put together a PowerPoint for this and then looked at the agenda and thought, there's no way you're going to want to sit through
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another one.
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So.
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Today I will keep it short. We expected to have printed copies for you today, and they have not come in yet.
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Each one is about this thick, and you'd each get two of them, so.
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When those come in, we will distribute them to you.
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This is.
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Effectively a scientific distribution of the complete cost of running the county across all the functions of what the county does.
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We have an obligation under federal regulation.
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To.
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Maintain a cost allocation plan.
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To have that done by a professional firm.
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So Seinfeld Meech has prepared the one that we received.
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And are hoping to adopt. Today there are two versions. The full version does all the costs across the whole county.
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The CFR version is the one that is based on the Code of Federal Regulations and limits some of the expenses that can be allocated.
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But it dictates what we calculate it cost to run a grant or program. So that when we apply for a grant or program, instead of
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saying that we'll take the 10% de minimis, we can say what the actual administrative cost is.
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And then that information gets passed on to the grantor.
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And then we can go back and forth on it. We do have a couple of Grand Tours who are waiting for us to approve the CFR plan so that
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they can approve.
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Those programs budgets for next year.
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