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1. CALL TO ORDER - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - INVOCATION 2. PRESENTATIONS:
A. Presentation of information by Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers regarding Senate Concurrent Resolution 1037.   3. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. Information/Discussion/Action to adopt Ordinance No. 2023-05-01 - Environmental Health; and repeal previously adopted Ordinance No. 2014-02 - Gila County Wastewater and any other previously adopted wastewater ordinances. (Joshua Beck/Michael O'Driscoll)   B. Information/Discussion/Action to adopt Resolution No. 23-07-02 to name West Lone Ranger Trail in the Tonto Basin area. (Tom Homan)   4. REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:   A. Information/Discussion/Action to authorize the advertisement of Request for Proposals No. 061423 for primary banking service for the Gila County Treasurer. (Monica Wohlforth)
B. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Agreement No. 03162023 between Gila County and the Town of Payson in the amount of $73,000 to support public transportation services in the Payson-Star Valley area for the calendar year 2023. (James Menlove)
C. Information/Discussion/Action to approve the use of Sourcewell Contract No. 090122-GET with Code 3 Technology in the amount of $300,439.13 for the purchase of new laptops and vehicle docking stations. (Cole Labonte/Carrie Bartling)
D. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Service Agreement No. 061423-1 with Exacom, Inc. to provide HindSight H4 - Multimedia Logging Recording System in the amount of $99,708.23 through June 30, 2024. (Cole Labonte/Carrie Bartling)
E. Information/Discussion/Action to approve the use of State of Arizona Procurement Office Contract No. CTR063770 with Iron Mountain Inc. in the amount of $538,197.46 for the digitizing, insight computer program, destruction of un-needed documents, and transportation (pick up) of documents and plans. (Randall Pluimer)
F. Information/Discussion/Action to enter into an agreement with Salt River Project for access and construction purposes consisting of excavation, boulder placement, barricades, and other related barrier placement activities on land located near A+Cross Road and to authorize the Chairman to sign Salt River Project Construction License No. 94886 for the period August 1, 2023, through August 1, 2025. (Thomas Goodman)
G. Information/Discussion/Action to adopt Resolution No. 23-07-03 to authorize the Chairman’s signature on the Arizona Department of Transportation Intergovernmental Agreement 20-0008060-I Amendment No. Two 22-0008760-I Tonto Creek Bridge Construction. (Homero Vela)
H. Information/Discussion/Action to approve the use of State of Arizona Procurement Office Contract No. ADOA CTR058876 with Kimley-Horn & Associates, Inc. in the amount of $472,000 to update the Forest Service Highway 512 Environmental Documents and Clearances with a completion date of September 9, 2024. (Homero Vela)
I. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Amendment No. 2 to State Contract Agreement No. CTR050894 with Jani-Serv to extend the term of the contract for an additional year to June 30, 2024; for a not to exceed contract amount of $206,503.15. (Chris Romiti)
J. Information/Discussion/Action to approve an Independent Contractor Agreement (Contract No. 07012023-24) between the Arizona Community Action Association d/b/a Wildfire and the Gila County Community Services Department, Community Action Program, whereby Wildfire will administer funding in the amount of $125,800 which will be used to provide weatherization services, utility repair, and replacement, utility deposits and bill assistance to eligible citizens residing in Gila County for the period of July 1, 2023, through June 30, 2024. (Kayle Lathrop)
K. Information/Discussion/Action to approve a Memorandum of Understanding between The Homeless ID Project, Inc. (HIDP) and the Gila County Community Services Department for the period July 1, 2023, through June 31, 2024, whereby the Community Services Department will be a HIDP affiliate in order to procure replacement identification documents for eligible Gila County residents experiencing homelessness. (Kayle Lathrop)
L. Information/Discussion/Action to adopt the FY 2024 proposed Salary Plan positively affecting all 459 of the County's full-time employees and utilizing $1,504,716 of available budget capacity to implement the FY 2024 Salary Plan effective the first full pay period in FY 2024. (Maryn Belling)
M. Information/Discussion/Action to adopt the FY 2024 Full Cost Allocation Plan and CFR (Code of Federal Regulations) Cost Allocation Plan. (Maryn Belling)
N. Information/Discussion/Action to award the following contracts in response to Invitation for Bids No. 041823-Autopsy Transport Services as outlined in the cost sheet for each contract: Contract No. 041823A to Zen LLC d/b/a Sanders Family Transport in an amount not to exceed $50,000 for the period July 1, 2023, through June 30, 2024; and Contract No. 041823B and Lamont Mortuary of Globe in an amount not to exceed $50,000 for the period July 1, 2023, through June 30, 2024. (Maryn Belling)
O. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Amendment No. 1 to Contract No. 100521 - Landscaping Services for GilaPROUD-Hwy 60 Cleanup and Maintenance Project in the amount of $132,500 for the period of July 1, 2023, through June 30, 2024. (Aimee Staten)
P. Information/Discussion/Action to sell the surplus metal handicap ramp to Our Lady of The Blessed Sacrament Church located at 844 W. Sullivan Street, Miami, Arizona 85539, a legal benevolent nonprofit organization operating in the State of Arizona for the price of $20.00 and for the specific use of utilizing the handicap ramp at the nonprofit's location to allow better access by those who are disabled. (Tim Humphrey)
Q. Information/Discussion/Action to ratify the Board of Supervisors' approval for the submittal of the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission (ACJC) FY 2024 Crime Victim Compensation Program Grant Application; approve ACJC FY 2024 Crime Victim Compensation Program Grant Agreement No. VC-2024-004 in the amount of $71,426.00 for the period July 1, 2023, through June 30, 2024; and authorize the Board Chairman to electronically sign the Agreement. (Debra Blair)
R. Information/Discussion/Action to ratify the Board of Supervisors' approval for the submittal of the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission (ACJC) FY 2024 Drug, Gang and Violent Crime Control Grant Application; approve ACJC FY 2024 Drug, Gang and Violent Crime Control Grant Agreement No. DC-24-023 in the amount of 91,758.81 for the period July 1, 2023, through June 30, 2024; and authorize the Board Chairman to electronically sign the Agreement.  (Jessica Scibelli)
S. (Motion to adjourn as the Gila County Board of Supervisors and convene as the Gila County Library District Board of Directors.) Information/Discussion/Action to approve Library Service Agreements for Globe Public Library, Isabelle Hunt, Miami, Payson, Tonto Basin, and Young public libraries for the period July 1, 2023, to June 30, 2024. (Elaine Votruba)
T. Information/Discussion/Action to approve a Library Service Agreement for Hayden Public Library the period July 1, 2023, to June 30, 2024. (Elaine Votruba) (Motion to adjourn as the Gila County Library District Board of Directors and reconvene as the Gila County Board of Supervisors.)   5. CONSENT AGENDA ACTION ITEMS: (Any matter on the Consent Agenda will be removed from the Consent Agenda and discussed and voted upon as a regular agenda item upon the request of any member of the Board of Supervisors.)   A. Approval of Amendment No. 1 to Service Agreement No. 122622 with BMS CAT of Arizona to extend the term of the contract to July 31, 2023, due to the needed time to complete the project.   B. Approval of Amendment No. 2 to Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA) No. 012621 with the Town of Miami to extend the term for one additional year to June 1, 2024, for the maintenance of Mackey Camp Road.   C. Acknowledgment of the May 2023 monthly activity report submitted by the Payson Regional Justice of the Peace's Office.   D. Approval of the Board of Supervisors' June 13, 2023, and June 27, 2023 Meeting Minutes.
6. CALL TO THE PUBLIC:   A call to the public is held for public benefit to allow individuals to address the Board of Supervisors on any issue within the jurisdiction of the Board of Supervisors. Board members may not discuss items that are not specifically identified on the agenda. Therefore, pursuant to Arizona Revised Statute § 38-431.01(H), at the conclusion of an open call to the public, individual members of the Board of Supervisors may respond to criticism made by those who have addressed the Board, may ask staff to review a matter or may ask that a matter be put on a future agenda for further discussion and decision at a future date.
7. At any time during this meeting pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.02(K), members of the Board of Supervisors and the County Manager may present a brief summary of current events.  No action may be taken on the information presented.
8. WORK SESSION ITEMS:   A. Information/Discussion seeking guidance to best allocate the funds from the congressionally directed earmark award of $609,000 to be used for maintaining water storage systems for wildfire protection in Gila County with the understanding that this funding comes with a 1:1 match of $609,000 for Gila County that can be in cash, in-kind activities, or a combination of both for the period of March 2022 through September 2025.      IF SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS ARE NEEDED, PLEASE CONTACT THE RECEPTIONIST AT (928) 425-3231 AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE TO ARRANGE THE ACCOMMODATIONS. FOR TTY, PLEASE DIAL 7-1-1 TO REACH THE ARIZONA RELAY SERVICE AND ASK THE OPERATOR TO CONNECT YOU TO (928) 425-3231. THE BOARD MAY VOTE TO HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF OBTAINING LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE BOARD’S ATTORNEY ON ANY MATTER LISTED ON THE AGENDA PURSUANT TO A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3). THE ORDER OR DELETION OF ANY ITEM ON THIS AGENDA IS SUBJECT TO MODIFICATION AT THE MEETING.
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Testing. Testing. 00:00:07
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History. 00:00:34
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Testing, Testing, 1-2, three. Can you hear me? 00:00:53
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But from testing 1-2 three. 00:01:07
Good morning, everyone. 00:01:32
We're going to get started here, pacing. Are you guys getting pacing? 00:01:35
Yep. 00:01:39
Thank you, Joseph. We're good here and Youtubes working this morning. 00:01:40
Right on so. 00:01:44
Thanks for being here this morning. It's Tuesday, July 11th. It's 10:00. O'clock straight up and we'll start this call to order 00:01:46
the Pledge of Allegiance. And Tim, you want to lead us in the pledge and then next going to lead us in the invocation? 00:01:53
I pledged. 00:02:01
Space. 00:02:05
Just, says one Nation. 00:02:08
Small. 00:02:12
That's this girl. 00:02:13
Thinking that the US is in this meeting of the side with respect to people. 00:02:22
Presentations on the escalator. 00:02:27
That will spread to the weapon then. 00:02:29
For me, the service bus. 00:02:31
So these things and then just cross them. 00:02:33
Thank you, Nick. 00:02:36
OK, going on to #2 presentations to a presentation of information by Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers. 00:02:43
Regarding the Senate Concurrent Resolution 10:37 and also we have Sunny Borelli. 00:02:52
Dinner. 00:02:58
Good to see you guys and Mark Fincham here. So come on up Wendy and. 00:02:59
I'll let you get started. Or how do you want to do this? 00:03:03
OK, that that's cool. 00:03:08
Come on up, Sir. 00:03:11
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Thank you. 00:03:19
What do we do? 00:03:21
So there we go. 00:03:23
Test test near me. 00:03:25
Think so? We're good. 00:03:27
Emergency said. If you have static here so. 00:03:28
Thanks for having me, supervisors chair. 00:03:33
Umm. 00:03:36
Senate Concurrent Resolution 1037 was passed out of the Senate in the House and sent to the Secretary of State's office. 00:03:37
On the third of the May, excuse me, 3rd April. 00:03:43
Well, hang on, Senator, Are we good? 00:03:48
OK. 00:03:53
So. 00:03:54
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Test test. 00:04:07
That's better, Sam. Maybe that worked. Ask you the shot. Go ahead. Yes. Thank you once again. 00:04:09
You know, we we passed the Senate concurrent resolution and send it to Secretary of State's office. 00:04:16
And we know we ran a bill to actually. 00:04:20
Put more restrictions and requirements. 00:04:24
On electronic voting systems because. 00:04:28
We are finding out through when we did the Senate audit and throughout other investigations nationwide, we were finding that there 00:04:30
was components that are made in that are with these machines. 00:04:36
Or electronic systems. 00:04:42
That are made from countries that don't want to do us harm. 00:04:44
So we tried to put some heavy standards on it, DoD cybersecurity standards, just in standards that we use for our weapon systems. 00:04:46
However, unfortunately, the governor vetoed that bill. But so but it's on the Senate concurrent resolution. 00:04:53
Still applies. 00:04:59
I sent all Let Go letter back in on May 22nd. 00:05:01
Of course the other side, the opposition says that the. 00:05:06
The letter. 00:05:10
One senator does not have the authority to dictate anything, and they're absolutely right. One senator doesn't. But that was just 00:05:11
to alert you all about the Senate Concurrent resolution. 00:05:15
And when it basically if you I'm sure you all read it. 00:05:19
The resolution itself. 00:05:22
But it highlights and there are facts and evidence that we found over the last three years. 00:05:24
In other States and even the things that we know here in Arizona. 00:05:29
That. 00:05:33
Well. 00:05:35
Reclaiming our plenary authority. 00:05:35
Over federal elections, because that's where we fit in the US Constitution. 00:05:38
Now under time, place and manner. 00:05:42
Now the arguments will be. 00:05:44
That the Senate Concurrent resolution does not have the weight of law. I beg to differ US Constitution. 00:05:47
It is the law of the land. 00:05:53
And of course they said well, it needs the Secretary of State's office had said well. 00:05:55
This doesn't affect because they need the governor's signature. 00:05:59
I disagree with that because in the US Constitution it doesn't say. 00:06:03
You know, time, place and manner prescribed the legislature and the governor or the executive. 00:06:08
Doesn't say that it says the legislature shall. 00:06:12
Prescribed time, place and manner and electronic voting systems being manner. 00:06:15
We're saying that please don't use them because they don't comply. 00:06:19
With cyber security standards that that is necessary. 00:06:23
Because technically. 00:06:27
Even if you wanted to do a post election audit. 00:06:29
You're prohibited to do so. 00:06:32
And I will prove that by saying look at Cochise County. 00:06:34
Coaches County wanted to do a 100% hand count of all their precincts. 00:06:37
In the 22 election, and the Secretary of State's office interfered and tried to intimidate the board. The board wasn't going to be 00:06:42
intimidated. 00:06:46
They voted to move forward to do a 100% hand count of all their precincts. 00:06:50
Of course there is a manner that they have to do. They have to do by law, certain races. 00:06:54
Or they wanted to do that. So once they did that. 00:06:58
And voted to go forward. 00:07:01
Mark Elias got with a a nonprofit or retires E group and a couple of Democrats, either plaintiffs. 00:07:02
Is so two coaches county to prevent them? 00:07:10
From being able to do. 00:07:13
They're prescribed duties to make sure that the elections are done properly and fair and if things are secure. 00:07:15
Well, why did Mark Elias care about Lindo Cochise County? 00:07:23
Because the statute says. 00:07:26
The Secretary of State shall provide the source code to a special master that shall be appointed by the court. 00:07:29
And those findings shall be made public to the court. 00:07:34
And to the Secretary of State's office. 00:07:38
So they tied coaches, county and litigation long enough to run the clock out to on the day they have to certify the election. 00:07:40
And. 00:07:47
And if they didn't certify the election on that deadline, they were threatened. 00:07:48
And intimidated. 00:07:51
With a felony. 00:07:52
Once again. 00:07:54
Use elected officials. 00:07:56
Are actually being prohibited from following through and doing your. 00:07:58
Your your due diligence and your duty to make sure that when you sign that certification. 00:08:02
And everything is true, fair. Obviously, under penalty perjury, everything is accurate. 00:08:07
Coaches County uses 2 systems the mail in ballots of your paper ballot, but they use the SNS systems. This is not about just the 00:08:14
Dominion. 00:08:17
It's also about ES and S. 00:08:20
Yes, and their system they use in Cochise counties that touch screen. 00:08:22
Well, you as the voter, you want to make sure that what goes in the system. 00:08:26
Is the way you voted. 00:08:31
But you cannot. 00:08:33
Because the third party vendor literally has autonomy. 00:08:34
And. 00:08:38
Immunity. 00:08:40
From any type of vote oversight meaning once again. 00:08:41
They got sued by Mark Elias, the Democrat, their attorney. 00:08:44
To block that type of oversight. 00:08:48
This is tax dollars paying for equipment that has no oversight and that that should just. 00:08:52
Make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up anyway. 00:08:57
But. 00:08:59
Without any kind of government oversight. 00:09:01
That the citizens are entitled to. 00:09:03
Is a travesty. 00:09:05
We vote in public. 00:09:08
Absolutely vote in private. 00:09:11
But we count in public. 00:09:12
This is about transparency. So what we're asking is a 100% hand count of all paper ballots being done by by the people under the 00:09:15
supervision obviously, of your election director. 00:09:21
And it can be done. It's not impossible. 00:09:26
The opposite side will say that the law doesn't allow for a hand count. 00:09:29
And of course, I argued this with a couple of the county attorneys already. I said show me a statute or the machines are mandatory 00:09:34
to be used. 00:09:38
They're not. 00:09:42
It's not mandated by law to be used as a primary source. 00:09:43
It's you. It's an option. 00:09:46
So if it's, you cannot use a machine. 00:09:49
Hello. 00:09:52
If you're not mandatory, then how else would you count the ballots? 00:09:53
You would do it by hand. 00:09:57
They said there's nothing in statute that permits a hand count. 00:09:58
So, well, show me the statute where it prohibits it doesn't. 00:10:02
If you if you're not mandatory to use machines, mandate to use machines. 00:10:06
Obviously you can do it the old fashioned way of counting ballots one at a time now. 00:10:10
The opposition is going to say it's going to take too long. 00:10:15
To do this well, we have 30 days of voting. 00:10:18
Mail in ballots because it's sent out 30 days prior to the election. 00:10:22
And they start coming in. 00:10:25
So you have the ability to start tallying the votes. 00:10:27
14 days prior to the election. 00:10:31
I know in my county, Mojave County, 80% of the ballots that come in are all from early ballots from either from the mail in or in 00:10:33
person at the County Library and so they can be done. 00:10:38
In a timely manner and therefore we can, you can. 00:10:44
Put all your effort into get Election Day voting and and. 00:10:47
With consolidation of personnel. 00:10:51
So it's just nothing more than pure logistics to make this happen. 00:10:53
Once again, you're not mandated to use these machines. 00:10:56
They are. There's so much evidence that these things can be. There's no. 00:10:59
Faith in them and if you don't have. 00:11:04
The ability of transparency, of looking into a black box. 00:11:07
Uh, we're actually that's photo suppression in itself. 00:11:12
So the citizens want to make sure that their ballots are being counted as cast. 00:11:16
And I think the best way to do that is going back to hand count paper ballot. I'm open for questions. 00:11:20
Thank you, Senator. This could provide your Humphrey. 00:11:27
I I have no questions right now. Mr. Chair, Supervisor Christensen. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Senator Borrelli. I appreciate 00:11:34
your presentation so. 00:11:38
You're you're advocating for a mandatory hand count. Can you tell me? 00:11:43
Do you know how accurate that will be? It's there could be human error. 00:11:51
So can you tell me is there any statistics that show how accurate a hand count is? 00:11:57
Thank you, Mr. Chair Out. You know, that's gonna depend on the volunteers and the supervisors. 00:12:03
The Election Assistance Commissions. 00:12:09
It actually says that there's a margin of of error. 00:12:11
In electronic voting systems, that's acceptable. 00:12:14
Is it 0 point? 00:12:17
Zero 2%. 00:12:19
Not a three million, I mean do the math on that. 00:12:21
I mean, there's a margin of victory. We've had races one and lost with one ballot, one vote. I mean, Andy Biggs won his recount 00:12:24
with 19 votes. 00:12:28
But. 00:12:34
Nothing is going to be perfect. 00:12:36
But it can be done. It's not logistically impossible. 00:12:39
There's several methods of doing it I prescribe. 00:12:43
I team of five people. 00:12:46
Counting one race at a time. 00:12:48
And you do an assembly line count, a stack of ballots. 100 ballots counting. One race, three people counting. 00:12:50
Two people marking and observing. 00:12:57
And then you do that stack, you hand it on over to the others. So you get, let's say, for the presidential race and the next one 00:12:58
will be the US Senate race and then congressional race, so on and so forth. You could do this with a team of five people. There's 00:13:05
other methods in Texas that have been doing it with less and it's been taking them, you know, a few hours just to do. 00:13:11
Yeah. 00:13:18
3-4 hundred votes ballots, and that's an entire ballot. 00:13:19
Not just one at a time, but. 00:13:22
It's gonna be done in small counties like like ours or yours. I got Applause County, too. Small county. Yeah. Roughly less than 00:13:24
25,000 votes last year. 00:13:29
In the election and that can be done in 14 days. 00:13:33
What, 5 hours a day with a team of folks Feel folks. 00:13:38
And I'm sure the county chairs will. 00:13:41
Ohh. 00:13:43
The parties will step up and provide those volunteers, and you'd be surprised how many people are lining up. 00:13:44
Signing up to Want to be able to? 00:13:49
Count. 00:13:52
Really complains. I don't. I don't want. I don't have any trust in faith and confidence in these electronic voting systems. So 00:13:53
therefore I have no idea if my my ballot, my vote counted. 00:13:58
Well, I believe if you go to a hand count, paper ballot. 00:14:04
And the citizens are actually doing the. 00:14:07
Count. 00:14:10
Then they can rest assured that, hey, your ballot didn't count. I know which one it was in a big stack, but we physically counted 00:14:12
every one of them. 00:14:15
Uh. 00:14:19
You know the opposition is going to come up with all kinds of roadblocks, but. 00:14:20
You know there's a bulldozer we can, but we can plow through. 00:14:24
Well, I am an advocate for voter integrity, absolutely. And so we just need to debate what the solutions to that are and this is 1 00:14:27
possible solution. 00:14:32
And etcetera. So one last question for me and that would be how does the county? 00:14:37
Recorder come into this discussion. 00:14:44
Will County report? Thank you Mr. Chair, the county recorder. Once that's all the signatures coming in, we'll make sure that the 00:14:47
signature verification is completed. 00:14:51
But that's where your county reporter would come into play to make sure that things are being done right. And they're they're 00:15:23
elected officials. I mean, the elections don't belong to us elected folks. 00:15:28
Elections belong to the people, right? 00:15:34
Thank you, Senator. 00:15:36
Senator, thank you. Thank you all today. Good information and. 00:15:38
And then? 00:15:43
Definitely to take in consideration. Senator Rogers, you have some you want to add. 00:15:45
Mr. Chair members, I'm your senator. Senator Wendy Rogers from Flagstaff. I cover Coconino, Navajo, Olive Hilla and a big part of 00:15:56
Pinal County. 00:16:01
I want to speak to the wholeness of you as a county. 00:16:09
You're one of 15 counties. 00:16:13
In Arizona, we're unique because we have so few counties really. And so each county is very, very important even though. 00:16:16
Heeler County is small. Mojave County is small. 00:16:25
But the United States Constitution, as my colleague just reemphasized, endowed the state legislature. 00:16:28
With the plenary, which means absolute authority. 00:16:37
To determine time manner in place of Federal. 00:16:40
Elections. 00:16:44
And we take that very, very seriously. It's up to the county. 00:16:45
To implement the election. 00:16:51
So you may think, well, you know, we're a small county, we're rural, but you're fundamentally important. 00:16:53
Because the United States, the other 49 states. 00:17:00
Are looking right now. 00:17:04
To Arizona. 00:17:05
To lead. 00:17:07
And we're in this. 00:17:08
Unique. 00:17:10
We're at this unique inflection point in history. 00:17:12
So what you have right now on the border is an invasion. 00:17:16
What we now have seen in theaters nationwide. 00:17:21
As a child. 00:17:25
Sex trafficking epidemic? 00:17:27
What we have is an economy that is under siege. 00:17:30
And many other ills. 00:17:35
That have befallen our state. 00:17:37
Because elections have consequences. 00:17:40
And stolen elections have dire consequences. And we're facing this right now. And you say to me, well, you know, we have 180,000 00:17:44
people here in Heela County. What can we do? 00:17:49
You can lead. 00:17:56
Maricopa County. 00:17:58
There's not a county that Senator Borrelli or I represent, but they have 65% of Arizonans in it. 00:18:00
And that is tilting the scales. 00:18:10
And that is where we are today because of Maricopa County and the fraud and corruption. 00:18:12
Senator Borrelli and I have seen on full display in the Elections Committee at the Arizona Senate. 00:18:19
We've got the receipts. 00:18:25
And so where do we fit in as small rural counties as your senators? 00:18:28
This is where we step forward. This is where we are at the pointiest tip of the sword. 00:18:33
This is where we other counties. 00:18:40
In Arizona, say we're going to lead. 00:18:43
By example. 00:18:47
And we're going to follow this Senate Concurrent Resolution 1037 and you say to me. 00:18:49
Where did you come up with that? 00:18:55
It's a subtle nuance that the. 00:18:57
The forefathers, our founding fathers of Arizona, put into the state constitution, thank goodness, over 100 years ago. 00:19:00
It did not require the rubber stamp of the governor. 00:19:07
It got transmitted to the Secretary of State to implement. 00:19:12
And it's 5 pages of detail. 00:19:17
Of the fact that in 2017. 00:19:20
The United States government? The DoD. 00:19:23
Said that election machinery is considered critical infrastructure. 00:19:27
And as such is subject to security requirements ad nauseam. One of which is it can't be connected to the Internet. It can't be. 00:19:34
Invaded, so to speak, by a nefarious actor adverse to the US government. All those things are proscribed in these 5 pages. 00:19:44
That election machinery must adhere to. 00:19:52
It's nylon to impossible for that to happen. 00:19:57
To have the parts made in the US and to have everything the way it should be. 00:20:00
So that's why we're talking about. 00:20:06
Paper ballots. 00:20:09
For the federal. 00:20:11
Ballot. 00:20:14
We tried, as my colleagues said, to get that passed for the state ballot. That had to be a bill that the governor would sign, 00:20:15
which was vetoed. But we, the state legislature and you as the implementers. 00:20:22
Still have control. 00:20:28
Over the federal ballot. 00:20:31
And the state. 00:20:34
So you can do the complete right thing if you want. 00:20:35
And conglomerate to two. 00:20:40
Which we would highly advocate. 00:20:42
And have that be. 00:20:45
Paper. 00:20:46
And Representative Mark Fincham behind me can speak to the actual ability to do that. 00:20:49
Paper. 00:20:55
Don't let the side opposite tell you it's gonna cost too much. 00:20:56
Don't let this and by the way. 00:21:00
As Senator Borrelli will tell you. 00:21:02
It's been paid for. 00:21:06
It's been paid for by 250 years of blood and treasure spilled for the freedom of this country, which is. 00:21:09
Slipping through our fingertips. 00:21:16
If we don't lead as the state of Arizona and we don't lead as individual counties, we're going to miss. 00:21:18
An opportunity. 00:21:24
To right the ship of state back on track. So don't let anybody tell you like the Secretary of State that you don't have legal 00:21:26
authority to do this. They will intimidate you. 00:21:31
And they will try to talk you out of this. 00:21:37
But this is your chance right now to do right. 00:21:41
And you have our fullest support. 00:21:45
And who knew over 100 years ago? 00:21:49
That the founders of Arizona. 00:21:51
Would put this capability this Senate Concurrent resolution. 00:21:53
Fat. 00:22:00
And and ability into our state constitution for such. 00:22:00
A time as this. 00:22:05
Where it will figure so pivotally. 00:22:07
And prominently. 00:22:10
And saving our state. 00:22:12
And our country and I, I go on these national interviews a lot and they go Rogers. 00:22:13
What about the other 49 States and I say they should do this? 00:22:18
And they are Shasta County in California. 00:22:24
You're Balding County in Texas. 00:22:29
What's the other one in Georgia? 00:22:33
Spalding County in Georgia and seven other counties in Georgia. 00:22:34
And growing. 00:22:40
By that day. 00:22:41
This is where counties can lead. 00:22:44
And we need to partner with you to get this going. We've already presented to Mojave County. 00:22:48
Which is Senator Borrelli. 00:22:54
They are moving forward. 00:22:56
Senator Borrelli and I are going to present to Navajo County. 00:22:59
And to Pinal County after this. 00:23:03
This is gaining. 00:23:06
Steam. 00:23:07
Why? Because we see what's happening in our state. We see the consequences. 00:23:09
Of what will happen if we don't? 00:23:15
Reclaim our plenary power to correct. 00:23:18
Elections. I stand for questions. 00:23:22
Thank you, Senator. 00:23:26
Supervisor Humphrey anything? 00:23:28
Mr. Chair, I have no questions. Supervisor Christensen. 00:23:31
Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Senator. Colonel. 00:23:35
Rogers understand completely. So I have no question for you though. Thank you. 00:23:38
So. 00:23:44
So Senators, I have a question for you guys, like going forward in the future. 00:23:46
What can we expect to see through any kind of legislation in the state? Are you guys thinking about putting any other bills or 00:23:51
anything to back this up or push it or or what? How, what are you thinking about there Mr. Chair Members, this is a standalone. 00:23:59
Resolute document in and of its own strength, it already has passed the House and the Senate. It is a pillar. 00:24:07
It is a rock of truth and implementability, yes, and I understand that. But I was just asking in addition, as I guess I should 00:24:16
clarify. But Senator Borrelli, you have something there. 00:24:22
Yes, Sir. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:24:28
You know, it's kind of interesting, but uh. 00:24:32
Like I said. 00:24:35
The bill that I I, I ran. 00:24:36
Would have put several security standards on it. The source codes would have been. 00:24:38
Held in escrow with the Auditor General, not the Secretary of State, to take the politics out of it. 00:24:42
Senator Rogers ran a bill for critical infrastructure. 00:24:49
It got better. 00:24:52
Critical infrastructure. 00:24:56
Got better? 00:24:58
However. 00:24:59
Governor Hobbs does an executive order to ban TikTok. 00:25:00
On government equipment. 00:25:04
But she vetoes a bill for critical infrastructure cybersecurity standards on all government equipment. 00:25:06
Everything so going forward. 00:25:15
We're gonna keep banging on that door until she rises up and starts doing things to protect Arizona and put the partisanship 00:25:17
aside. 00:25:21
Now. 00:25:25
We'll just roll back the clock little bit. 00:25:27
This is not about. 00:25:29
Biden and Trump. 00:25:31
It's not about Hobbs. 00:25:32
And and late. 00:25:34
This goes back to. 00:25:36
Right after the. 00:25:38
The 2016 election. 00:25:40
Secretary of Homeland Security said in 2017 that elections are part of critical infrastructure. 00:25:42
The US Senate held hearings back in 2019. 00:25:48
About electronic voting systems when they had a man named Clinton Curtis come and testify before the Senate. 00:25:52
How electronic voting systems can be hacked, How they're hacked, how they're already pre programmed and said you'll never find it 00:25:58
because the results are going to always come out 5149. 00:26:02
And the only way to find that out is to actually do a hand count. 00:26:07
Like I said, trying to do a hand count, that's where the interference comes in on the post election. 00:26:11
Camilla Harris, Senator Harris was even on the record stating. 00:26:18
In that committee hearing. 00:26:22
Now her staff witnessed. 00:26:24
The electronic voting systems being hacked right before her very eyes were from a cell phone. 00:26:27
The man who testified Clinton Curtis. He's the one who wrote the programs to make sure that the outcomes would come out a certain 00:26:33
way. 00:26:36
Now. 00:26:40
Is he Republican? No, he's a registered Democrat. 00:26:42
He testified in front of Senator Rogers Committee. 00:26:45
So the answer to your question is, Sir, yes, we're going to keep pushing bills. 00:26:48
To. 00:26:52
Tighten up what? Our elections, because that's our first priority. Let's don't belong to us. 00:26:53
It belonged to the people. They're entitled. 00:26:58
To that. 00:27:01
Transparency. 00:27:02
So the answer your question Sir, no more politician problem like no, that's good. No and I agree with you on that. So. So today 00:27:03
you got, you've presented to your your county there Molly and today you're presenting to us are are we the only two counties so 00:27:08
far that you presented this to or is there other ones. Thank you Sir. No, I've had preliminary meetings with other counties so you 00:27:14
know their vice chairs and and and we're trying to work through so that way they can get on we can get on their agenda because a 00:27:19
lot of this is new. 00:27:25
To them and. 00:27:31
Of course the opposition from you, from the Secretary of State's office is the one all kinds of roadblocks in a way which is kind 00:27:32
of ironic that the. 00:27:36
You know, he he he's a lawyer and he knows the US Constitution. 00:27:40
So. So he thinks Sense though but. 00:27:44
Not to disparage her. 00:27:47
Secretary of State but. 00:27:48
You know, it's just amazing that. 00:27:50
The opposition doesn't want to have transparency. 00:27:52
That that's what's the most telling thing of it is they don't want to have any transparency like I said. 00:27:55
You're not mandated using machines. 00:27:59
It's literally a black box that you're not allowed to look into. 00:28:02
As elected official and a taxpayers are paying for this equipment. 00:28:05
No. 00:28:09
Well Senators, I really thank you for taking your time out of your busy schedules. I know you're you're swamped and. 00:28:10
And for coming up here and visiting with us this morning and and going from there, James, did you have a question or comment? 00:28:16
What when we're done with those questions? 00:28:21
Ohh OK well, I I think I've asked mine so far. So and I've got the Halderman report. Alex Halderman was caught. He's a professor 00:28:24
at Wisconsin and Michigan or something like that. Yeah, in Michigan he he was, he was commissioned by the Democrats to do a report 00:28:30
on electronic voting systems. 00:28:35
This is. 00:28:42
Prior to 2020. 00:28:43
And of course, the report came out. He named Arizona. 00:28:44
Is one of the 16 states that's vulnerable before the 2020 election. 00:28:48
Well, a federal judge in Georgia. 00:28:51
Sealed. 00:28:54
Now report. 00:28:55
And it wasn't till just a month ago, less than a month ago, we found that judge unsealed it. So we have a a redacted part that 00:28:56
that we will send to you that highlights this EAC, Election Assistance Commission and CISA. 00:29:03
The cyber security folks, they're the ones that examined the machines that Dominion, ESS, and. 00:29:10
In Williamson, Tennessee. 00:29:17
And that's highlighted in the example. 00:29:20
In the SER. 00:29:22
Where they had found an anomaly. 00:29:23
Uh. 00:29:25
An erroneous code that nobody knows how I got on there. 00:29:26
Well then the manufacturer says what's OK, we fix it. 00:29:29
Really. How do we know you fixed it? 00:29:32
Well. 00:29:35
The secretary states have the source code, so we're not going to be able to see. 00:29:35
Because they won't give it to us. 00:29:38
When we were doing this Senate audit, we tried to get the source code from the Senate, from the Secretary of State, Katie Hobbs. 00:29:40
She refused to give it to us. 00:29:43
We subpoenaed Dominion. They refused to give it to us because they're a private company. 00:29:47
And his priority and we don't have any authority over private companies, so. 00:29:51
Obviously you can see that there's no transparency. 00:29:56
At all. 00:29:59
And to try to make sure that there's any kind of oversight that protects. 00:30:00
The citizens what they're entitled to. 00:30:03
And extreme fear relations. Thank you, Senator James, Mr. Chair, members of the board. I just wanted to express appreciation to 00:30:06
Mr. Mariscal, our Elections Director, and his team. 00:30:11
Based on the the controls that we have, policies and procedures, checks and balances that have been implemented in HeLa County. 00:30:17
That I know that. 00:30:26
Through the Elections Department, we can provide assurance. 00:30:29
That the elections for 20/20/22. 00:30:32
That the results were truthful and accurate. 00:30:35
And that the population, the voters of community county can have that assurance. 00:30:39
That we do everything within our power and possibility. 00:30:45
Checking. 00:30:48
What we do before the election and after to make sure that the the accuracy of the counts. 00:30:49
So I express appreciation to Mr. Moscow and his team. 00:30:55
And all the many volunteers that come and support the elect. 00:30:58
A truthful and accurate election in Heela County. 00:31:02
So. 00:31:05
Senators as as a small county, because we are less than 55,000, we take voting integrity very seriously, just like SEND, 00:31:06
Supervisor Christensen said. 00:31:11
And we have questions coming at us from all angles as you well know as as do yourselves. So this is something that we do stay on 00:31:17
top of and. 00:31:21
And with our elections department and with the recorder and the folks that we have in our small group. 00:31:26
It's a constant topic of discussion. 00:31:32
So. 00:31:35
Yes, Mayor. Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you. Thank you, Sir, for that. And by the way, this is by way no indictment against your 00:31:36
elections personnel. 00:31:41
It's not. 00:31:46
Because they're very dedicated individuals, we know that they want to make sure things are done right, but I don't think they 00:31:47
fully, fully grasp the understanding of it. 00:31:51
When you're voting by paper ballot. 00:31:55
OK. And you're running it through tabulators? 00:31:58
You really don't know. 00:32:01
If the outcome is literally true. 00:32:03
Now you do a sample afterwards. 00:32:05
That you can say 2% and 5%. 00:32:08
Well, that doesn't give you the bigger picture because the system has been designed. 00:32:11
Clinton Curtis testified from the US Senate. 00:32:15
Saying and in front of our our committee that. 00:32:18
You're not going to find it in that way because the the outcome is going to be 5149 on obviously certain races that wanna be. 00:32:21
Manipulated. 00:32:29
And because you can't look into the system itself and you don't want to do that as opposed to election on it. Now let's say we do 00:32:33
a logic and accuracy test. We do all these testing prior to, which sounds good. 00:32:39
But it means that when you do a logic and accuracy test, you're actually certifying the equipment is operating properly at the 00:32:45
time of inspection. 00:32:49
But once the system is going on with the electronic voting systems, we're talking about a computer. 00:32:53
But nobody's. Nobody's in here to a data guy. Unless you got the source codes to see if anything got changed, you don't have that 00:32:58
ability. 00:33:02
That's that's the real issue there. 00:33:07
So I mean I'm, I'm convinced that your country is you know this cleans the, you know, hounds tooth but. 00:33:09
The systems can be corrupted. 00:33:16
And we need to take a stand and stop giving. 00:33:19
Your authority over to a third party vendor. 00:33:23
And it's complete autonomy and. 00:33:27
Community because they're protected. Because they're a third party and they're not subject to a Fourier request for public 00:33:30
information request. 00:33:34
Senator Rogers, And if I could just piggyback on that. 00:33:38
We don't know what we don't know. 00:33:43
And I know that sounds simplistic. 00:33:47
But as Senator Borrelli said, unless we can look into the machine, real time when votes are being cast on a continuous basis. 00:33:50
We don't know what we don't know. 00:34:01
And also. 00:34:04
You're right, we just have a small county here, but because you are an entity, one of 15, you are more powerful. 00:34:06
Than the number of voters you represent. 00:34:16
You are one of 15. 00:34:20
Very important entities in this state and hence this country. 00:34:22
So you are sort of. 00:34:28
The mouse that roars. 00:34:30
And. 00:34:32
I'd like to call up a representative, Mark Fincham, who is a subject matter expert. 00:34:33
To speak to the implementability. 00:34:40
And to the corruptibility on these two sort of mechanical. 00:34:43
Aspects. 00:34:49
Mark Chairman. Or have you just state your name and where you're from? Yes Sir. 00:34:55
Now from Phoenix, formerly from Tucson and the Republican nominee for Secretary of State in 2022. Served in the Arizona House of 00:35:01
Representatives for eight years. 00:35:06
There's a couple of things that I've heard here and I'm I'm gonna ask you to set aside for just a moment the idea of inspecting 00:35:11
the code. 00:35:14
The question is, do you know? 00:35:19
And I already know the answer. 00:35:23
That the number that the machine gave. 00:35:24
Matches the number of votes in paper ballots. 00:35:28
As for every vote that comes to that machine, no, I mean, we don't. We we take, we take the sample, the samples and test those 00:35:32
like we've talked about, but ask for every vote. No, that's exactly my point. You don't know. 00:35:39
There is no transparency in the machine system. That's one of the reasons why myself and governor. 00:35:46
Gubernatorial candidate Terry Lake. 00:35:54
Are at this moment in front of the 9th Circuit Court. 00:35:57
Challenging the use. 00:36:00
Of black box ballot tabulation equipment. 00:36:02
Black box being a term of art in the legal world. 00:36:05
You can't see inside of it. 00:36:08
Now I'm going to tell you something that is not widely known that in the Raphael Warnock election, you may have heard of that in 00:36:11
Georgia. 00:36:14
17 pallets of ballots were printed by Runbeck. 00:36:19
And shipped to Georgia. 00:36:23
Paid for by Dominion Voting Systems. 00:36:27
Why did they have to have paper ballots shipped to Georgia for a specific election? 00:36:31
If the election tabulation equipment were trustworthy. 00:36:38
I'll tell you why. 00:36:42
We had to have a match on the number of paper ballots. 00:36:44
So the number of ballots counted in machines. 00:36:48
I happen to know that. 00:36:51
Because the fellow by the name of Bob Hughes assured that with me he was able to track down the PO. 00:36:53
PO number on the ballots and verify who paid for it with Runback. 00:36:59
That ought to make your blood boil. 00:37:05
Because that's the kind of thing. 00:37:07
That can happen when you're unable. 00:37:09
To do a full hand count. 00:37:12
Of paper ballots. 00:37:15
Now once again. 00:37:17
Senator Burley highlighted the fact that in law. 00:37:18
There is no prohibition of doing the hand count. 00:37:21
In fact, I would call your attention to the hand count roadshow.org. 00:37:26
There is a system Louisiana has designed what they call the Clothesline System. 00:37:31
It's about hand counting the paper ballots. 00:37:36
At the precinct level. 00:37:39
That's where you get the detail. 00:37:41
So that's one of the things that I would advocate for. 00:37:44
I am advocating for. 00:37:47
Is the chief executive officer of the Election Fairness Institute. 00:37:49
It's a nonprofit organization that's dedicated to one thing. 00:37:53
Seeing to it that county officials. 00:37:56
Have security. 00:37:59
And transparency. 00:38:01
You know, we hear a lot of talk about integrity. Well, that's an output. 00:38:03
The input is having a secure system. 00:38:07
That you can rely on. 00:38:10
Now, the Holderman report showed categorically. 00:38:12
The equipment cannot be relied on because of a security defect. 00:38:16
If we're not so Williamson County, Tennessee. 00:38:21
Would have had an exact match on the paper ballots versus the machine count. 00:38:24
They didn't. 00:38:28
Now, once again, Senator Borelli spoke to that. 00:38:30
Said. Well, we fixed it. 00:38:32
Really. 00:38:34
How do we know? Can we see the code? I know you're just gonna have to take our word for it. 00:38:36
What is so mysterious about the? 00:38:41
Tabulation. 00:38:43
Unless of course, it's a calculation. 00:38:44
It seems stunning that so many elections come out 51% to 49%. 00:38:48
That is a statistical improbability so high. 00:38:52
It is not credible. 00:38:56
So I recommend if you want to do a little bit of your own research. 00:38:58
I'm visiting the hand count roadshow.org. 00:39:02
And we are making plans to have that roadshow visit. 00:39:06
Probably in Phoenix. 00:39:09
I understand that there's quorum problems, so you're going to have to. 00:39:11
Decide amongst you who might want to come. You can't all three come. 00:39:14
But you'll see an opportunity to disprove the allegation. 00:39:18
That it's a logistical nightmare. That it's a logistical impossibility. 00:39:23
To hand count the number of ballots that you would have in your system. This is a classic throughput problem. 00:39:28
If you have nice people and you have an efficient system. 00:39:34
But quite frankly, the roadshow. 00:39:37
Is doing a hand count demonstrating a hand count? 00:39:40
Where they digital camera overhead? 00:39:43
For ultimate transparency. Why? Because their live streaming account as it's happening. 00:39:47
What we have right now is the crisis of. 00:39:54
Faith in the system. 00:39:56
That's what we're facing right now. 00:39:59
And I I guarantee you. 00:40:02
That your constituents right now are focused on one thing. 00:40:04
Transparency. 00:40:08
Thank you very much. I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have. 00:40:10
Thank you. Go ahead. I have a question. 00:40:13
And anybody can answer it, what's the penalty for altering? 00:40:17
An election. 00:40:21
Well, Sir, it depends on whether or not you want to charge someone with treason. Well, yeah, I don't want to charge them with 00:40:24
anything because I'm not capable. I'm saying what is the what is the penalty for altering? 00:40:29
An election? Yeah, I'm talking about the ubiquitous day. OK, so if. 00:40:35
It can be found that it is a criminal event. 00:40:40
Criminal is going to require intent. 00:40:44
If there's intent to alter the election. 00:40:48
There's a number of different penalties depending upon. 00:40:50
How the the charges come out? 00:40:53
But at the highest level. 00:40:55
I suppose that that individual could be charged with treason. 00:40:57
And the reason I asked that because I mean you hear different things and there's a lot of things and and there's a lot of 00:41:01
questions about the election, but but if there's not enough balance about ballots for particular party. 00:41:07
At a particular voting station, and that's been proven. 00:41:13
What's the penalty? 00:41:16
What if? What if a marker is marked on a ballot that can't be read by the machine, so the ballots throw it out? What's the 00:41:18
penalty? 00:41:22
So. 00:41:27
Supervisor Humphrey that would deal with. 00:41:28
That's there's no intent there. 00:41:31
That's just something that happens is part of the election process. Now one would hope and I'm sure that the Heela County 00:41:35
elections officials. 00:41:38
Have already tested a lot of this stuff. 00:41:43
Do they have markers or pens that that bleed through? 00:41:45
I'm pretty sure that he LA County was not affected by that. 00:41:49
Like Maricopa County? 00:41:52
My guess would be that he LA County actually proved all that stuff in advance. 00:41:55
To show we have to use this process, we have to use these tools. We have to use this paper. 00:42:00
That's why you didn't notice the Heela County's name in the media. 00:42:06
Something you should probably be very happy about. 00:42:11
Yeah. Senator Barrel, he's probably got some additional perspective. OK. Thank you, Sir. Yeah. And the remedy to that, you're 00:42:17
right. Like, you know, ballot on-demand printers. 00:42:22
And they were the wrong size. It wouldn't go through the tabulator. 00:42:26
Bleed through all those things. 00:42:30
Guess what? All that stuff is eliminated. 00:42:32
If you just do a hand count. 00:42:35
If it goes through a ballot on-demand tabulator. 00:42:37
It's not going to go. 00:42:40
It goes to a ballot on demand printer. It's time to go through a tabulator. 00:42:41
Because you're going to count it by hand. 00:42:45
If it bleeds through, obviously you can see that it went through and it didn't affect. The other side didn't affect. 00:42:47
And that's why you have also have your observers or your county. 00:42:53
Elections director and even. 00:42:56
The parties have lawyers there in in that room when they're checking. 00:42:58
But if you alleviate, alleviate. 00:43:02
All those. 00:43:04
Calculators. 00:43:06
Electronic voting systems. 00:43:07
Let's stop this song. 00:43:10
Yeah. 00:43:11
I hope I answered your question. 00:43:14
Best you could. Thank you. OK, Supervisor. Christians, thank you Chairman. Thank you Representative Chairman. 00:43:18
So I appreciate all of you good presentation. 00:43:25
And I would just. 00:43:28
Suggest that I would. 00:43:32
Be I would not be opposed to having a work session on what we're doing in Heela County, how it's conducted. 00:43:35
And whether or not there are options from the Board of Supervisors to improve it in any way that we deem necessary. So I think a 00:43:42
work session would be something. 00:43:47
To look at because I know I have a lot of constituents. 00:43:53
That are very concerned about. 00:43:56
Going forward? 00:43:58
Mr. Chairman. 00:44:01
I would be happy to have as one of the options that you could do. 00:44:02
The demonstration of a hand count system. 00:44:06
That would fit, I'm sure, into the Heela County system to replace. 00:44:09
Mechanical or electronic tabulation. 00:44:15
Thank you. All I need is the date and time we have here. 00:44:17
Thank you all for presenting today. Very good. I really appreciate it and. 00:44:21
Thanks for coming. 00:44:26
Good to see you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I always say follow up with. 00:44:27
Improve your net, Higher vet. There you go. Thank you. 00:44:32
Thank you all. Thank you. OK, moving on to #3 public hearing. 00:44:36
3:00 AM Information discussion Action to Adopt Ordinance #2023-05, Environmental Health and Repeal previously adopted Ordinance 00:44:43
number 2014. 00:44:49
Dash 02 Dash Hilo County Wastewater. 00:44:57
And any other previously adopted wastewater ordinances and we have Josh Beck and Michael O'Driscoll. I guess we got Josh, Good 00:45:00
morning, Chairman, Klein. Board supervisors also have Shake, Carrot and Alex Kendrick and Eric and the patient as well in case you 00:45:08
have any questions. But so we have prevented this numerous times. Mr. O'Driscoll started this in 2021. We've taken our time with 00:45:15
it because we're really trying to make sure we get it right. We had a. 00:45:23
Couple different fee schedules for wastewater and for the food process and. 00:45:31
We're trying to clean that up to make it really better for residents. It's better for us as well, but it's better for residents 00:45:36
because before we had just all kinds of different charges for like mobile food units and all these different categories. And if 00:45:40
you looked at it, you were just kind of confused. 00:45:45
Now we're going to go in line more with what other counties have, which is a risk based system. There's four risk categories and 00:45:49
that's how we kind of evaluate everything. It's more straightforward. It's easier for us to explain to somebody. It's easier for 00:45:56
them to understand. It kind of aligns better with other counties. If somebody moves here, they're more aware of what it is. 00:46:02
It really goes through part of what took it longer for us, it really goes through and it defines the powers that are delegated to 00:46:08
us through the state of Arizona. 00:46:13
It goes through and really defines. Here's all the powers that we have and how you know that process affects everything. We kind 00:46:17
of spell that out way better now than what we had in the past. 00:46:21
Um. 00:46:26
The last edition that's really helpful is for the Tri-City Sanitation District. 00:46:27
We've set in a what we call like a limp along permit. 00:46:32
So that people that live in that Tri-City sanitation district have a cesspool that fails. 00:46:36
This one I feel pretty good about. 00:47:11
Thank you, Josh's supervisor, Humphrey. 00:47:13
I have no question, Josh. I didn't thank you for the time and effort to. 00:47:16
Put into this Supervisor Christiansen, thank you. Thank you Josh and Michael for working on this and your whole staff. 00:47:20
And this has been ongoing and this is not like a new. 00:47:27
New thing. It's just we've had a hodgepodge thing going on and now we're getting it. We're getting our act together and I like 00:47:32
that. Thank you. 00:47:35
Josh, thanks. Yeah, it has been a long time. 00:47:41
Working on this, so I appreciate all your help. I think with that I'm gonna open up the public meeting part of it. 00:47:43
Public hearing and Do we have anybody in Payson, Joseph? 00:47:50
No Sir, OK. 00:47:55
Nothing. No comments on YouTube and I don't believe we have anyone here. It's all closed the public hearing and entertain a 00:47:57
motion. Mr. Chair, I move to adopt Ordinance #2023-05. 00:48:04
Repealing Ordinance #2014-02 and any other previously adopted wastewater ordinances. 00:48:10
Move your chair. I'll second that having a motion and a second. 00:48:19
Ohh. 00:48:23
Say yeah. 00:48:24
All all in favor say aye. Aye, Aye. I think I got it right. Aye. Motion carries. 00:48:27
I'm just learning to talk, Josh. It's OK. 00:48:34
OK, on this number three, public hearings 3B Information discussion Action to adopt resolution #23-07-02. 00:48:37
To name W Lone Ranger Trail in the Tunnel Basin area. Tom Holman. Good morning, Tom. Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the 00:48:47
Board. Yep, Tunnel Basin is once again expanding and we need to assign Rd. names so we can assign addresses the residents there. 00:48:57
Perhaps euphemistically. 00:49:08
Selected Lone Ranger to go with Tonto. 00:49:09
But um, you know, it meets all our standards, so. 00:49:12
Here I am before you today. I'm willing to take any questions. Supervisor Hunt for any questions. 00:49:16
I have met Supervisor Christensen. Thank you, Tom. Yeah, I have no questions. I think you'll probably be come to us more and more 00:49:22
often. It feels like it's. Yeah. Thank you. And I'm good as well, Tom. So I'll open that up. Public hearings. Do we have anyone in 00:49:27
Payson? 00:49:32
No Sir. And no comments, anybody on YouTube and I don't see anyone here. So with that I'll entertain a motion. 00:49:39
Mr. I moved to adopt resolution #23-0702. 00:49:46
I will second. 00:49:51
Having a motion in a second all in favor, do so by saying aye, Aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, Tom. Thank you. 00:49:52
Okay regular agenda items #4A Information Discussion Action to authorize advertisement of request for proposals number. 00:50:00
061423 00:50:09
for Primary Banking Service for the HeLa County Treasurer Monica. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Mr. Chairman, 00:50:12
Supervisor Christianson, Supervisor Humphrey. 00:50:17
I'm here this morning to request to advertise a request for proposal for a primary banking service. 00:50:22
And that's per ARS 35-325. 00:50:29
Currently now our banking primary banking services with JP Morgan. 00:50:33
Chase that expired June 30th of 2023. 00:50:38
So right now the procedure is that I must advertise. 00:50:42
And it's going to be in the pacing roundup on July the 17th, July 25th of 2023. 00:50:46
With a bid due date of August 10th, 2023. 00:50:53
Once those bids are in. 00:50:58
All this will be reviewed by appropriate parties and that would be the county manager. 00:51:00
Deputy County Manager, Finance Director and myself and a decision would be made to extend an offer to our new. 00:51:05
Premier Banking. 00:51:16
Contract for three years. 00:51:17
So right now it's just a procedure to advertise. 00:51:19
Thank you, Monica. 00:51:23
Supervisor Humphrey and questions. 00:51:24
No, just just the advertisement part of it. You know, if someone doesn't happen to read the paste paper, then they don't know so. 00:51:27
We we've got into situations in the past, but anyway I I have no questions, gonna be on the website and I'm not sure I believe 00:51:34
it's going to be available in the paper and also on the web, also on the web. 00:51:40
Hearing. 00:51:47
Mr. Chair, Supervisors. And just so you know, we do have a list of banks. 00:51:49
And this will go out to all of them directly, so whether they get the payment or not. 00:51:54
The the banks will receive the invitation and then if they choose to respond and they can. The last time we went out to bid, we 00:52:00
received two bids. They were very competitive, so they advanced to an interview process. 00:52:08
And then as. 00:52:15
As Treasurer Wolforth mentioned, there was a committee that chose between the two bids for the successful bidder. 00:52:17
Hi, Thank you very much for reaching out to the qualifying parties. 00:52:25
Supervisor Christiansen. Thank you. Mr. Chairman. I have no questions. Thank you. Thank you. And I'm good as well. Thank you, 00:52:31
Monica. And with that, I'd entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, I'll move to authorize the advertisement of request. 00:52:36
For proposal number 061423. 00:52:43
I'll second that having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, motion carries. Thank you, Monica. 00:52:47
And on 2 for B Information Discussion Action. 00:52:54
To approve agreement number 03162023. 00:52:59
Between Hillary County and the Town of Payson in the amount of $73,000 to support public transportation services. 00:53:04
In the patients Star Valley area for the calendar year 2023, James, this Chairman, I'm not going to get up, no. So yeah. 00:53:12
Mr. Chairman, as you know, in southern Helen County we have to the copper bus system that we have here have contributed for a 00:53:20
number of years, $73,000. 00:53:25
Of. 00:53:30
They pace in Senior Center, of course, in northern Healer counties. 00:53:31
Began the B Line bus system several years ago. 00:53:35
Are the Senior Center. 00:53:39
That is not their primary focus. They wanted to divest from the the bus system. 00:53:41
In northern Healy County. 00:53:48
And thankfully, very thankfully, the town of Payson took over management and administration of the B Line bus. 00:53:50
And Hula County. 00:53:58
And. 00:54:00
Opposing that is consistent and it's equitable that we have have. 00:54:03
Partnered. 00:54:09
With our partners here in Southern Nevada County to 273,000 a year that we do likewise in the northern part of the county. And so 00:54:10
this is an IGA that we work with. 00:54:15
The Northern bus system town of Payson. 00:54:20
To support that transit system. 00:54:23
To the $273,000. 00:54:26
Thank you James Supervisor Humphrey. 00:54:28
I have no questions. Supervisor Christians, thank you. Chairman. Thank you. Mr. Manlove. I have no objection to this. I just if if 00:54:32
it's permissible to ask, how is the advisory committee? 00:54:37
Are coming this first formation. 00:54:43
As far as the. 00:54:46
Transportation Advisory Committee Yes, I have a a meeting. 00:54:48
Town of Patient has a meeting scheduled. 00:54:52
Later this month. I'm not sure of the date, but I am planning to attend that. 00:54:54
As far as the advisory committee? 00:55:00
The next step as far as the. 00:55:02
Intergovernmental partnership that we have is an IGA. 00:55:04
And I'm working with CAG to continue to work through that idea that we can take it. 00:55:09
I will work with CAG to take an IGA out to all the different communities. 00:55:14
That will participate the six. 00:55:19
Organized municipalities in HeLa County take that presented to their councils and that we can all consider an intergovernmental 00:55:21
agreement to go forward on the I PTA. 00:55:26
So two different, two different things, but they are both moving forward. 00:55:32
There is a Transportation Advisory Committee. 00:55:37
First meeting, Initial meeting. 00:55:40
Later on this month. 00:55:42
Thank you. 00:55:43
And I don't have any questions for you, James. I'll entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, I move to approve agreement number 03162023 00:55:45
with the Town of Payson in the amount of $73,000. I will second that Mr. Chair have a motion. And second, all in favor. Do so by 00:55:51
saying aye. Aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, James. 00:55:57
On the Foresee Information discussion Action to approve the use of Sourcewell contract number. 00:56:04
090122 Dash GET with Code 3 technology. 00:56:11
In the amount of $300,439.13. 00:56:17
For the purchase of new laptops and vehicle docking stations and we have coal and carry. 00:56:23
Good morning. You too. Good morning, Chairman, Board members. Today we come before you to address the important matter of the 00:56:28
directly affects the efficiency and security of our Sheriff's Office. In recent years, we've witnessed the significant rise. 00:56:34
And cyber threats and attempts to breach sensitive information, the safeguard. 00:56:40
To safeguard our operations and to ensure the highest level of security, we have implemented multi factor authentication 00:56:45
throughout the county. 00:56:48
Multi factor authentication provides an additional layer of protection required multiple forms of verification to access critical 00:56:52
systems and data. 00:56:57
Our Sheriff's Office requires new laptops that meet the highest standards of reliability to update technology enhanced security 00:57:01
features. 00:57:05
These laptops are crucial tools for our daily operations and to provide faster, more secure multi factor authentication for our 00:57:09
deputies. 00:57:13
The current laptops we estimate to be approximately 10 years old. 00:57:17
By equipping the deputies with modern laptops, we empower them to perform their duties efficiently and accurately. These laptops 00:57:21
will enable our deputies to access vital information in the field, communicate seamlessly with our other departments, and maintain 00:57:27
a secure connection while handling sensitive data. 00:57:33
Moreover, they will. 00:57:39
They will enable us to meet the evil. 00:57:41
Technology requirements of law enforcement and adapt to the ever changing landscape of digital threats. 00:57:43
I understand that the budgetary considerations are always a concern and, however, the long term benefits and the protection of our 00:57:49
critical resources far outweigh the initial investment. 00:57:54
I urge you to carefully consider the impact that requiring new laptops for MFA purposes will have an efficiency and security to 00:57:59
our Sheriff's Office. 00:58:03
With today's approval, the laptops used for sheriff's deputies will now be replaced every five years. 00:58:08
Like the rest of the county's equipment, this will help us budget and ensure that we have the up-to-date hardware to address 00:58:14
security needs and keep the county safe. 00:58:18
We'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. 00:58:22
Thank you, Kerry. Supervisor Humphrey. 00:58:25
I have no questions. Mr. Chair, Supervisor Christensen, thank you. I have no questions. 00:58:27
So where's the money coming from? 00:58:32
This will be coming from Capital. 00:58:34
Our capital. 00:58:36
We have the money, James. 00:58:38
Who's chairman? This is part of Coleman. So that investment from. 00:58:41
The ARPA. 00:58:48
Once. OK, so that's cool. 00:58:49
So what happens to the old laptops that we replace? So the old top they'll laptops that we have will be decommissioned. Like I 00:58:51
said, they're 10 plus years old, so they'll probably be. 00:58:56
Sorry, they will, they will be. We have a company that we use for Easy Street that actually comes and decommissions our at our 00:59:05
current any old laptops or computers that we may have and then from here on out then every five years these new laptops would be 00:59:11
replaced at Diana. 00:59:17
Routine replacement schedule, Yes Sir. So currently the current laptops they that they have are refurbished laptops, so when they 00:59:23
get them they're refurbished at that point. So with these they will have new laptops which will have the multi factor 00:59:30
authentication, which will have the fingerprint readers which makes it easier for the deputies to use. 00:59:36
We tested multi different things to give them different ways to be able to authenticate and this was our easiest way for them to 00:59:44
authenticate was with the fingerprint reader. So so another question so or when we purchased these laptops is that for every 00:59:51
deputy position in the Sheriff's Office or is that just for the ones that are filled? 00:59:58
We're purchasing it for every position we have a little bit of a deficit. 01:00:06
But in case a piece of equipment goes down, we have them the ability to put that computer back in. We can take a brand new one off 01:00:11
the shelf, deploy it right away. That way there's not a gap in. 01:00:16
Abilities for the deputies. Cause I I believe you're down on deputies now anyway. Right positions, yeah. 01:00:22
Don't quote me, but it's in the. 01:00:28
Five to seven different positions were down, OK. 01:00:30
Alright. 01:00:34
Any other questions you two, we're good. Just one if, if. 01:00:35
Well, if they're gonna be replaced every five years, how do we budget for five years away? 01:00:39
We'll build that into our long term budget I. 01:00:49
Camp Como said it's going to be within five years. 01:00:52
It will depend on what the financial position of the county looks like and the prioritizing our needs. 01:00:55
As we go. 01:01:02
So I I can't say that in five years they're gonna be would be replaced. 01:01:03
OK, so by approving this, we're, we're not approving that they're upgraded every five years. We're just not approving the purchase 01:01:07
of them. In the worst case scenario, you know, say that doesn't happen in five years, there's going to be devices that are still 01:01:12
probably in. 01:01:17
Fairly good shape. 01:01:22
We could replace probably the the worst 8 or 10 that are out there or they'll have some about this big that do everything, yeah. 01:01:24
Yeah, we have the worst ones out there and move forward. If we get into a bad position like that without putting some, OK, yeah, 01:01:32
just, just. 01:01:35
Just looking ahead, just brought up some questions. So OK, thank you, Mr. Chair, thanks. We'll say on the number of pieces, items 01:01:38
of equipment that they would they're per vehicle. 01:01:44
Because these are going into vehicles, so it's not necessary. 01:01:50
Authorized FTE. That's so that a vehicle is equipped. 01:01:53
And able to meet the needs of the officer out on the field. So that's what we were intending to do, not necessarily on FTE. 01:01:57
Umm. 01:02:06
And again, this is part of the the plan that we had long term of committing $2,000,000 of technology so that we can upgrade. 01:02:08
Our technology and. 01:02:14
Not yet. They'll ask you enhance our capability to be more efficient. 01:02:17
And what we do across the board. 01:02:21
So the reason I asked about is whether or not you're purchasing this for every position that you have out there. 01:02:23
As we know, technology is outdated in about 6 months from now. 01:02:29
And so to go through and purchase a bunch of these laptops. 01:02:34
And have vacant positions where these laptops even you have a good idea called that would they would be sitting on a shelf and. 01:02:39
Readily available as somebody to break theirs or one goes down but. 01:02:45
But then there may there's a possibility too. We're purchasing laptops that may not get used. 01:02:49
That in a matter of a couple of years? A year. 01:02:54
Six months, whatever it is. 01:02:57
It's outdated. 01:02:59
And so we've just thrown some money away, James. 01:03:00
I believe the Sheriff's Office not trying to speak to you. 01:03:03
Call that they're rotating their vehicle, so the equipment is being used, that's why it's not. 01:03:08
Being assigned to a vacant position is assigned to a vehicle and the vehicle for the rotator. OK, and they're all used. 01:03:13
Yeah. So that that scenario of having some kind of computer having it set for a year or two is is. 01:03:20
Will not happen. 01:03:28
Can I quote you on that later, James? 01:03:30
Just kidding. Go ahead. 01:03:33
Supervisor Humphrey did. Yes something. No, I'm good. Thank you. You're good. I think I am too. So thanks you guys. One thing like 01:03:36
I got a question here for you. But. 01:03:40
Sam. 01:03:45
Official title. 01:03:48
Sergeant, Sergeant. 01:03:50
Yeah, it was the conduct crossword anyway. OK. Thank you, Cole. Thank you. Carry with that. I'd entertain a motion, Mr. Chairman, 01:03:53
to approve the use of Sourcewell contract number 090122. 01:03:58
Dash GET. 01:04:04
With code 3 technology in the amount of 300. 01:04:06
$1439.13. 01:04:09
Mr. Chair, I will second that having a motion, and a second all in favor, diesel, by saying aye, aye, aye, aye, Motion carries. 01:04:13
On to 4D. 01:04:21
Information Discussion Action to Approve Service Agreement number 061423 Dash 1. 01:04:23
With. 01:04:31
Exicom incorporated to provide hindsight H4 multimedia logging recording system in the amount of $99,708.23. 01:04:32
Through June 30th, 2024 and Cole interior up again. 01:04:45
Yeah. So I didn't prepare anything quite as extensive as what Kerry had there. But essentially, this is a pretty simple piece of 01:04:50
equipment we're looking to replace. 01:04:54
The Sheriff's Office within our dispatch facility and Globe has what we call the recorder system and it essentially takes all of 01:04:58
the phone lines within the Sheriff's Office, all our VoIP phones. 01:05:04
All of the radio channels the Sheriff's Office uses and the fire medical radio channels. 01:05:09
The Sheriff's Office uses. 01:05:15
And it records those. 01:05:17
For transparency, if the public requests it for after action, reviews, if there was a a critical incident for court cases, all the 01:05:18
normal things we'd expect to see with something that records what we do. 01:05:24
Umm. 01:05:31
The current system should have been replaced several years ago. We've been working on trying to find a piece of equipment that we 01:05:32
all felt comfortable with from the IT side, from the Sheriff's Office side. 01:05:38
That worked well with their integration and requirements. 01:05:43
And worked well with a supervisor. 01:05:47
From the Sheriff's Office or in the dispatch center or in records, being able to easily log in has a. 01:05:50
Very usable interface. 01:05:56
To be able to gather whatever they need to gather. 01:05:58
Save it and. 01:06:01
Create a certificate that. 01:06:04
What they did was. 01:06:06
Complete and accurate when? 01:06:08
Done. 01:06:10
Done properly. So we we finally found a a piece of equipment we like. We found a vendor that we feel comfortable with to help us 01:06:11
purchase the piece of equipment, install it, implement it, train. 01:06:17
All the users and get us up and running and off the ground. 01:06:23
That's really kind of the long and short of the equipment and what we're looking to do with it. 01:06:28
Cool. Thanks. Cool. 01:06:33
To provide your Humphrey, Mr. Chair, I have no question Supervisor Christensen and neither do I. Thank you. Looks like we're 01:06:34
spending a lot of money on you today Cole. Thank you. I appreciate that. There is there is also a grant that was that they found 01:06:39
funding for. Yes. 01:06:44
So partial parking. Yeah, so. 01:06:50
Coordinator Deborah Williams. She was asked to look for a grant. For this, she was able to find one to the tune of $49,000 even. 01:06:54
And that will supplement the the purchase of this. Well, that's good. Thank you. 01:07:02
That entertain emotion. 01:07:07
Mr. Chair, I move to approve Service Agreement number 0614. 01:07:09
23-1 with Exicom in the amount of $99,708.23. I will second that having a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye, 01:07:14
Aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, Cole. Thank you, Carrie. 01:07:22
Thank you. On to E information discussion action to approve the use of State of Arizona Procurement Office contract number. 01:07:30
Ctr. 063770. 01:07:38
With Iron Mountain Incorporated in the amount of $538,197.46. 01:07:42
For the digitizing insight computer program, destruction of unneeded documents and transportation, pickup of documents and plans, 01:07:50
Randy, we have you and Payson. 01:07:55
Tomorrow, Karen Troop risers. 01:08:02
As you know, this has been an ongoing want and need for the. 01:08:04
County over several years, long before I was even here. 01:08:10
Of digitizing community development files. 01:08:15
We have. 01:08:19
A couple Connex boxes full of archive files that are not. 01:08:21
Climate controlled. 01:08:26
And they're just sitting out there. They grow Moby and. 01:08:27
And are are dying and we're trying to save all that. 01:08:31
Plus all of the 67 file cabinets full of. 01:08:34
Ongoing files that we have. 01:08:40
Umm. 01:08:42
I got involved in this about a year ago with Harry Jacobs. 01:08:43
And uh, it's taken that long to get to this point. 01:08:48
Basically we're looking at in community development around 72,000. 01:08:52
Files. 01:08:58
And. 01:08:59
We're looking at about. 01:09:00
Two and a half million. 01:09:02
Different scans of paperwork than permits and inspections. 01:09:05
And then we're looking at about 37,000. 01:09:10
Uh. 01:09:15
Plans. 01:09:15
That are going to be scanned. 01:09:17
They'll be put into a insight system. 01:09:19
Which makes anything that's on those plans are on those paper. 01:09:22
Recognizable. 01:09:27
We've been working with IT to ensure that everything works together and with the new permitting system that all that's going to 01:09:29
work together. 01:09:34
So that somewhere down the line we can turn this over to the citizens. 01:09:39
Where they can look up their own items, so if they want to know something about their parcel. 01:09:45
What's there? What's not there? They don't have to come into the office. 01:09:50
And then staff doesn't have to go pull. 01:09:54
A file line? A file cabinet. 01:09:56
Talk with them over the counter and then go make copies and so on and so on. 01:09:59
They'll be able to be at home and research this stuff on their own, print it out. 01:10:04
They have whatever information that's in there that's accessible. 01:10:08
Um, this is involving? 01:10:13
Quite extensive, there's this is a not to exceed number. 01:10:16
Because we first of all, we don't know exactly how many pieces of paper there are. We did not count two and a half million. 01:10:21
But that over the companies. 01:10:27
Experienced that average is what they came out, They have been to our site, have looked at our files, have went through them 01:10:29
several times. 01:10:33
We've had staff go through them to. 01:10:38
Uh, kind of verify the numbers they came up with and and the idea of all that. 01:10:40
Umm. 01:10:45
Right Now what the they had. 01:10:47
Propose. 01:10:50
Was. 01:10:51
That they will come pick up the files, take them, scan them. 01:10:52
Put them all back together and then bring them back to us. 01:10:55
Well, we're finding out through the state archives. 01:10:58
That we don't necessarily have to have those back. 01:11:01
Um, a lot of those are going to be destroyed. 01:11:04
Obviously. 01:11:07
Destroying the. 01:11:09
Files would be a lot cheaper than. 01:11:10
Um. 01:11:12
Having staff or having their staff. 01:11:14
Putting them back together and bringing it to us and then us refilling them again and. 01:11:17
Um, it doesn't seem like a a. 01:11:22
A good plan overall. 01:11:24
But under state archives we have to keep so many files or certain files. 01:11:26
Uh, for permanent. 01:11:32
So we are not going to get rid of all file cabinets. 01:11:33
But I sure hope to have a. 01:11:37
A. Fire shell on file cabinets at the end of this process. 01:11:39
The current time frame is route 10 months. 01:11:43
To get this accomplished. 01:11:47
At that point. 01:11:50
The computer program, the insight that you talked about is the program that recognizes the scans. 01:11:52
And we'll make it searchable by anyone who has access to that. 01:11:58
And we are working on all that and verified with other departments. 01:12:03
How this will work? IT has been involved. 01:12:08
Other departments are looking at going through the scanning. 01:12:11
We're just happy to be. 01:12:15
One of the bigger ones. 01:12:17
Moving forward, all the staff and it's already been purchased. 01:12:19
All the staff will have scanners at their desk and at the front counters. 01:12:23
So any paperwork coming in will just automatically get scanned. 01:12:28
And we won't have to hopefully go through this again. It will be an ongoing. 01:12:32
A process to ensure. 01:12:36
That the citizens had and staff have the most. 01:12:39
Up to date access to all their documents. 01:12:43
I'll be more happy ohh this is coming out of the ark money. 01:12:46
So if you have any questions, I'd be more than happy to answer them. Thank you, Randy. Supervisor Humphrey. 01:12:51
This one Randy, is is there a length of time that you need to keep records or just as far back as you get and as much information? 01:12:57
As you have, just keep it for as long as you can or. 01:13:05
Of. 01:13:09
Just for information for the public. 01:13:10
We have a documentation. 01:13:13
Timeline that is approved by the state. 01:13:17
Some are permanent. 01:13:20
A. A. A. 01:13:21
Permit card. 01:13:23
It's permanent. 01:13:25
A plan of the houses is 90 days. 01:13:26
A plan for a. 01:13:30
Commercial business is one year. 01:13:33
Uh. 01:13:35
We've kept them for a lot longer than that. 01:13:37
Um, basically because they're all in a file and you know, you'd have to pull those out and. 01:13:40
Everything else we did set up a system that we can get rid of. 01:13:45
Plans on a timely basis and we have them all dated by. 01:13:49
Time. 01:13:53
But the states the one that determines that. 01:13:54
Uh, what are permanent? What are not permanent? 01:13:57
And it's stated in the archive. 01:14:00
That if it was created. 01:14:03
By. 01:14:05
Hand. 01:14:06
You have to keep it permanently, so we have. 01:14:07
I'm gonna say several 100. 01:14:10
Uh. 01:14:12
Hermitage. 01:14:14
They were created by hand. They were actually handwritten out permits. 01:14:15
Those will be permanent. 01:14:19
If they're completed. 01:14:20
Started by the computer. 01:14:22
Then we can scan those and get rid of those. 01:14:24
I will say that the archives may not be up to date on all the options. 01:14:28
Because they still like microphone. 01:14:33
So I haven't seen one of those projectors in years, but that's kind of where they're at. So yes, there is a limit and there if you 01:14:36
exceed that limit, then you actually are in violation also. 01:14:42
Because if you tell me you're going to keep this for six months and you keep it for five years. 01:14:48
You're actually still in violation of the retention schedule. 01:14:52
There's still this company that's gonna take everything you have and do it all up nice and neat and not give it back to you. 01:14:56
Then you're going to need to, I guess, to inventory what you give them. 01:15:03
So the stuff that you don't need to keep or or things of that nature. 01:15:09
Uh, you're going to have to deal with that prior to them scanning everything. Is that correct? 01:15:15
Correct. And they need all the requirements for the handling. They actually inventory every piece of document that comes to them. 01:15:21
They do this all across the area. 01:15:29
Um, they're huge. 01:15:32
But they document everything that we give them. 01:15:34
We have certain stickers on, like those handwritten permits. 01:15:38
We have those as documented that those need to come back to us. 01:15:42
But the other ones don't necessarily need come back to us and then we'll have them destroyed. They will also provide us the 01:15:46
documentation that we need to give to the state when we destroy a document. 01:15:51
And they will ensure that all the paperwork that is required by the state. 01:15:57
Is followed and they do this all the time. 01:16:02
OK. Yeah. No, just question, ask and answer. Thank you very much. 01:16:06
Supervisor Christiansen. 01:16:12
Thank you, Chairman and thank you, Randy. Yeah, we we've known this is coming along and. 01:16:14
I find some things curious and funny. In fact I find most things curious and funny how we have discussed this morning about 01:16:19
converting our voting into non electronic, non tabulation paper count. Humans only. 01:16:27
And now we're going to completely go the other direction with digital files. And I I just find that humorous. 01:16:34
But I know we need to do that. 01:16:40
So thanks. 01:16:42
Yes, Sir. 01:16:44
Randy, thank you. I think this is that. 01:16:45
Obviously you haven't digitized and and. 01:16:48
Readily available for whoever needs to pull it up is a good team. 01:16:51
Comes with the big cost and I guess that is the ARPA money as well, so. 01:16:55
But this will set up the only thing I would be curious, Randy. And I know, I know, maybe I already know the answer to my own 01:17:00
question, but. 01:17:03
What about mess ups? Or how do you know everything's going to get through and be put in there that you're going to need? Is there 01:17:08
any guarantees? 01:17:11
I guarantee probably not, but this is a pretty efficient company has done it for other jurisdictions. 01:17:18
We'll document the files. 01:17:24
One of the things we're doing the plan is, is that let them take the archives out of the unex office. 01:17:26
Both here and patient and morning glow. 01:17:33
Practice on that. 01:17:36
Make sure that the quality of those are our worst files anyway. 01:17:38
To make sure the scans are up to the quality, that are readable and doable and everything else. 01:17:42
Um. 01:17:48
And then once we approve that then they will come and get other. 01:17:49
Portions of the files that's at a time. 01:17:54
They've actually even implemented. 01:17:57
That if during the scanning process. So in other words, there's a. 01:17:59
File that a customer comes in that we really have to have. 01:18:04
But it's in their possession. 01:18:07
Dave actually committed to go out, pull that file, scan it and send it to us. 01:18:09
So the customers aren't going to be. 01:18:14
Put out more than that necessary to get this accomplish. 01:18:17
OK. Thank you, Andy. 01:18:21
That entertain a motion, Mr. Chair, I move to approve the use of State of Arizona Procurement Office contract number Ctr. 063770, 01:18:23
with Iron Mountain Incorporated. 01:18:28
In the amount of $538,197.46 is presented. 01:18:34
Mr. Chair, I will second that having a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye, aye, aye, motion carries. Thank you, 01:18:40
Randy. 01:18:44
Onto Earth Information Discussion Action to enter into an agreement with Salt River Project. 01:18:49
For access and construction purposes consisting of excavation. 01:18:55
Folder placement, barricades and other related barrier placement activities on land located near a crossroad and to authorize the 01:19:00
Chairman to sign Salt River Project construction license number. 01:19:07
94886 for the period August 1st 23. 01:19:15
Through August 1st, 25 and we have Homero. 01:19:20
Good morning. Good morning, Chairman and Board members. 01:19:24
Tom Goodman was supposed to be the presenter, but the Army Corps called us yesterday afternoon and wanted to come visit what we 01:19:27
had done at Bloody Tanks, and I asked Tom to. 01:19:32
Represent the county on that site. Visit SO. 01:19:38
That's why I'm acting in his behalf this morning. So this is a request to enter into agreement with Salt River Project for a 01:19:41
construction easement. They call it a licensing agreement, but it's really a construction crew, simply just a construction 01:19:46
investment. It's a two year agreement for us to do work. 01:19:51
Uh, and and and use their property to to do that work. And then we move out and we no longer have have a license to do any 01:19:57
additional work beyond that. 01:20:02
The proposed work is located on the East End of a crossroads. 01:20:08
And like you mentioned, the work consists of excavating boulder placement, barricades and other related barrier placement 01:20:12
activities. 01:20:16
On the A+ crossroad. 01:20:20
The contractor that's on the Counter Creek Project project will place the boulders in a berm. 01:20:22
As part of the restoration project. 01:20:29
The road will be permanently closed and rehabilitated, also as part of the Conflict Free project by the contractor. 01:20:31
So it's our recommendation that the that the Board of Supervisors enter into this agreement with Salt River Project. And with 01:20:40
that, I'll take questions. Thank you, Homer. Supervisor Healthcare, I have no questions. 01:20:45
Supervisor Christian, thank you. No questions. 01:20:51
So you said the east side across the, did you mean the the West End that the bridge? 01:20:53
Umm. 01:20:59
There's a, there's a, there's a map fixer available on the and it shows the east side as as being. 01:21:00
The circle up there. 01:21:07
Yeah, he's inside. 01:21:09
So. 01:21:12
Whose jurisdiction is this? 01:21:15
Pardon me, whose jurisdiction is this that that property belongs to some river project? 01:21:18
It's surrounded by the forest. 01:21:24
At Aboriginally we thought it was for profit. 01:21:27
When we then when this project was first Invasion, then the contract was put together. 01:21:29
That particular area that we're working on belongs to Salt River Project. 01:21:34
Hmm. 01:21:40
So. 01:21:43
So what you're saying is this property is just right off of the the 288 it's right off of? 01:21:44
The apartment. 01:21:51
Umm. 01:21:53
At the apartment on the east side. 01:21:55
On this side of the bridge and east side of the bridge, OK. When you said east side of a cross, I was literally thinking across 01:21:59
Rd. 01:22:03
OK. Thank you, Homero. 01:22:07
I don't have any other questions either that I didn't paint a motion. 01:22:09
Mr. Chair, I'm I moved to enter into an agreement with Salt River Project and authorize the chairman. 01:22:12
To sign the Salt River Project construction license number. 01:22:18
94886 as presented, I will second that having a motion, and second all in favor do so by saying aye, aye, aye, motion carries. 01:22:22
See information discussion Action to adopt resolution #23-07. 01:22:32
Dash 03 to authorize the Chairman signature on the Arizona Department of Transportation. 01:22:38
Intergovernmental Agreement #20-0008 Zero 60-I. 01:22:44
Amendment #222-000 Eight 760-I. 01:22:52
Tunnel Creek Bridge construction. Homer, thank you. I'd like to offer some introductory remarks before I get into this agenda 01:22:58
item. 01:23:02
The amendment is required because we received additional grant monies. We received $250,000 in addition to what was originally 01:23:07
provided for us in the in the initial grant. 01:23:12
Uh, the work on the bridge is progressing very nicely. 41% of of the hours that were on the contract, 41% of the hours are 01:23:17
consumed. We're almost like halfway there. 01:23:22
The work is scheduled to be completed next June. 01:23:27
Work is taking place right now on Gabions. 01:23:31
Uh, they're they're doing the forming and the pouring on columns on pure caption on a bit abutments in the next couple of weeks, 01:23:34
so you should be able you can't see the work from from the highway as you drive by. 01:23:39
And it'll be more prominent in the very near future. 01:23:45
So the Board of Supervisors approved the original IGA with a dot on May 25th of 21 for the bridge construction. 01:23:49
And on June 3rd of of of. 01:23:57
2020 Second, the board approved Amendment #1. 01:24:00
We have looked at that. Those documents that we felt like they were didn't really express the numbers. We went back to a dot when 01:24:04
we received the 250,000. 01:24:08
And we asked them to review those documents and they did some edits. 01:24:13
And I'd like to share a spreadsheet that's actually up there and it's in your package. 01:24:17
That that best explains the flow of money. 01:24:22
But Amendment number 2 will revise the project cost to include the $250,000 increase in the bill and the bill grant. 01:24:25
Um, and the execution of this amendment and the receipt of the additional after receiving the the Additional Bill grant. 01:24:31
The county will be in reimbursed in amount of 32,450 and if and if you look at the spreadsheet that's up there. 01:24:40
Uh, it's a very top of the spreadsheet. Uh, the first box that you see are the costs associated with the bridge. There's a utility 01:24:48
relocation cost. 01:24:52
Biological monitoring, cost image construction. 01:24:57
That, by the way, has not changed. That's the original contract that we received from Ames. We still have at least 75% of our 01:25:00
contingency left on that contract. Things are working very nicely at this point in time. 01:25:06
There's a, there's a construction administration of a little over two million, $2.5 million with ADOPT. There's a contingency 01:25:12
amount that I just mentioned is at least 75% in fact at this point for our construction total of just a little over $25 million. 01:25:20
OK. 01:25:29
The original bill grant provided a little bit over $21 million. 01:25:30
Umm. 01:25:35
And the county share the difference of of those two numbers is a little bit over 4,412,000 dollars 600 and. 01:25:36
605 dollars. 01:25:44
4,004,605 dollars. 01:25:45
So that was the the county share that's required, the county has paid. 01:25:48
So far 3.7 million a little over 3.7 million that was in two payments. 01:25:53
And the difference that's still needed is $217,000 and 2000. 01:25:58
To $217,550. 01:26:05
And the additional bill grant provides 250,000. 01:26:09
And that's the difference that I that we just mentioned a minute ago that that we would get reimbursed 32,449 when the project is 01:26:12
done. 01:26:16
Are given that we don't exceed our contingency, OK. So basically it's a I think it's good news, it's settled, set everything up 01:26:21
and there's a little bit of money left over at the end of the project. So we would like to recommend the adoption. 01:26:28
Of Amendment #2 by the Board of Supervisors. 01:26:35
Thank you, Homer. 01:26:39
Any questions? Supervisor helping? Mr. Chair, I have no questions. Thank you. 01:26:41
Suffrage Christiansen Only one Where did that 250 come from? The state or federal? Federal OK. 01:26:45
Thanks to the people before me. 01:26:53
This actually has been around for a while. 01:26:56
It's just that they don't belong while to figure out the the, the, the accounting for the project. 01:26:58
Thank you. 01:27:04
Thank you, Omar. I'm good with that idea kind of motion. 01:27:05
Mr. Chairman, I will move to adopt Resolution #23-07-03 and authorize the Chairman signature on the Arizona Department of 01:27:07
Transportation Intergovernmental Agreement 20-0008, Zero 60-I and then number 222. 01:27:16
Dash 0008760 as presented. 01:27:25
I'll second that Mr. Chair having a motion, and second all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. 01:27:29
Onto age, information, discussion, action. 01:27:36
To approve the use of State of Arizona Procurement Office contract number ADOA Ctr. 058876. 01:27:40
With Kimley, Horn and Associates incorporated. 01:27:49
In the amount of $472,000 to update the Four service Hwy. 512. 01:27:52
Environmental documents and clearances with the completion date of September 9th, 24 Homer. 01:27:58
Thank you. 01:28:04
So on September 6th of 2022, the Board approved the USDA Forest Service Rd. Project Agreement. 01:28:06
Which Provided $472,000 as a grant to undertake the environmental document. 01:28:14
For that portion of 512 Four Service Hwy. 512 that has not been paid. 01:28:21
They provided this funding. 01:28:27
We'd like to utilize it and we'd like to utilize Kimley Horn's services through to complete the environmental service. 01:28:29
And those things are the environmental. 01:28:37
The environmental assessment. 01:28:40
Would include the of course, the biological, the archaeological, the 404 scoping with all the all the required entities. 01:28:43
And also it would include 60% of the design work for for the road itself. 01:28:52
So when we would be finished with the environmental assessment work, we would have most of the design work for the road already 01:28:58
done. 01:29:01
Right. 01:29:06
Um, and there we would like to the grant actually has a a term limit. We would like to meet be compliant with that with that term 01:29:07
limit. 01:29:12
And and therefore they're the request is. 01:29:18
Umm. 01:29:21
It's the The proposal and scope of work by Kim Lee Horn has been reviewed by the Forest Service. They'll be sure that the project 01:29:22
would not be missing any elements at the end of the contract. 01:29:27
Uh, the owners Contingency. There's actually. 01:29:32
Can We Horn would like to charge $402,000. 01:29:36
And leaving 69,000. 01:29:41
$212.00 in that grant amount available. We'd like to keep that as that owners contingency in case anything shows up. If nothing 01:29:44
happens then that we probably will have to ask the four service if we can use that money for something else or return it. 01:29:51
But there seems to be ample funding in the grant to undertake the environmental assessment. 01:30:00
And and we do have a a time frame that we've incorporated into the into the agreement with Kimley Horn and that's to complete 01:30:05
complete the environmental assessment by 9/9 of next year, 2024. 01:30:12
And with that, I'll, I'll take questions. 01:30:19
Thank you, Homer. Supervisor Humphrey, Mr. Chair, I have no questions. Supervisor Christensen, thank you. No questions. There's 01:30:22
472,000 Homer. That's the money or James we got from Senator Kelly. 01:30:28
Is that right? 01:30:34
No, I I don't. 01:30:38
I'm sorry, So where Where did so where did money come from? 01:30:42
It's a federal grant. 01:30:46
Or to our service. OK, it came through the Forest Service to us. 01:30:48
OK. 01:30:52
Thank you. 01:30:54
Yeah. 01:30:55
Maybe we can get something done, Homer. 01:30:56
We if I could. 01:30:59
We're also applying for. 01:31:02
Money through keg to finish the design. 01:31:04
We're submitting a grant at at this time. Tom is preparing that and working with KEG. 01:31:09
We're submitting for monies to finish the design and and obtain some pavement. The grant size is $1.8 million. 01:31:15
And we'll be sharing that with the board in more formal fashion. 01:31:23
In the in the near future. 01:31:27
Sounds good, Homer. And I don't know if any of you guys have been on that North Rd. in the last. 01:31:29
While but it is totally mucked out. 01:31:34
So, and it's gotten to the point where. 01:31:37
No matter what we do with motor graders or anything else, it just it stays beat out. Traffic is unreal, speed is high. 01:31:40
The whole 9 yards, so. 01:31:47
It's it's done but. 01:31:49
Surprise the helping Yeah, that pavement will slow him down no longer, but but it'll sure be nice to him, my trailers and stuff, 01:31:51
so. 01:31:55
Anyway, we need coal up there by well, what can we do by Saturday? 01:32:00
Cross your fingers, I guess. I don't know. 01:32:06
Homework. Thank you that I entertain the motion, Mr. 01:32:09
I move to approve the use of. 01:32:13
Of State of Arizona Procurement Office Contract number ADOADTR. 01:32:15
058876 With Kimley Horn and Associates incorporated in the amount of. 01:32:23
$472,000 as presented. I'll second that having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, Aye, aye. Motion carries. 01:32:29
Thank you, Homer. Thank you. Appreciate it. On to I information discussion, action to approve Amendment #2. 01:32:38
To State of Arizona Contract Agreement number Ctr. 050894. 01:32:46
So Jenna served to extend the term of the contract for an additional year to June 30th 24 for a not to exceed contract amount of 01:32:53
$206,503.15 Chris. 01:33:00
Good morning, Mr. Chairman Support. 01:33:07
Simple thing appeared too fast for your approval to continue another year for our janitorial services. 01:33:11
Cool. OK, Supervisor Humphrey. 01:33:18
I I have no questions. Does it go out to bid? 01:33:22
No, not yet. This is the end of the third year that we had as an agreement with the janitorial service. OK. We go out for three 01:33:27
years and this is the last year and this is the last year and then it will go back out to business. OK. Thank you. 01:33:33
Supervisor Christians and thank you. No, don't have anything. I'm good. Chris thanks that. Other chairman. Yo, yeah. Can I have 01:33:40
clarification and Chris, what? 01:33:44
Territory does this cover quantify what exactly we're It covers North and South. 01:33:50
Heal accounting. So it's it's up in the Payson area it's down here in globe. 01:33:55
The price hasn't increased since. 01:34:02
The Amendment #1. 01:34:04
Just because we haven't had any additional square footage yet. 01:34:07
So I see possibly next year that it will be increased. 01:34:12
But we'll have to wait and see. 01:34:16
Thank you for that, James. 01:34:19
Now I'll call for a motion. 01:34:21
Mr. Chair, I move to approve Amendment #2 to State of Arizona Contract agreement number Ctr. 050894 with Jennifer with the not to 01:34:23
exceed amount of $206,503. 01:34:29
$0.15 and extend the contract to June 30th, 2024. 01:34:36
Mr. Chair, I'll second that having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank 01:34:41
you, Chris. 01:34:45
On the Jay information discussion action. 01:34:49
To approve an independent contractor agreement contract number 07012023 Dash 24, between the Arizona Community Action Association 01:34:52
doing business as WILDFIRE and the HeLa County Community Services Department. 01:35:00
Community Action program whereby welfare will administer funding in the amount of $125,800. 01:35:08
Which will be used to provide weatherization services, utility repair and replacement. 01:35:17
Utility Deposits and Bill assistance to eligible citizens residing in HeLa County for the period of July 1st, 23. 01:35:23
Through June 30th, 24 Kelly. 01:35:31
Good morning, Chairman, Members of the Board, good morning. Like you said, this is a grant that we received for weatherization 01:35:34
services for our community as well as utility repair and replacement. 01:35:39
Um and assistance with utility deposits and bills. 01:35:45
This grant has no matching requirement and has been very helpful for our community in the past. 01:35:49
Thank you, Kaylee. Supervisor Humphrey questions, comments. And just one, are you having any luck with local contractors working 01:35:56
with you on some of these projects? So yeah, we have contracts in place. There are some requirements that our contractors have to 01:36:01
abide by. So that has been a bit of a struggle. 01:36:07
But um, but we have had success. 01:36:15
OK. Thank you, supervisor. 01:36:17
Thank you, Kaylee. No questions. Good job, Kaylee. Thank you kind of motion. 01:36:20
Mr. Chair, I move to approve. 01:36:26
An independent contract agreement. Contract number 07012. 01:36:28
023-24 with the Arizona Community Action. 01:36:33
Association. 01:36:38
Wildfire in the amount of $125,800 as presented. I will second that having a motion and second all in favor do so by saying aye 01:36:40
aye aye aye Motion carries on decay. 01:36:46
Information, Discussion, Action to approve a Memorandum of Understanding. 01:36:53
Between the Homeless ID project incorporated H IDP. 01:36:58
And the Hila County Community Services Department for the period of July 1st, 23. 01:37:03
Through June 31st, 24, whereby the Community Services Department will be a. 01:37:08
HDP affiliate in order to procure replacement identification, identification documents. 01:37:14
For eligible Healey County residents experiencing homelessness, Kelly. 01:37:22
Mr. Chairman, Members of the board, this agreement has no funding attached to it, but it will be beneficial in helping people in 01:37:27
our community who are experiencing homelessness. 01:37:32
We can help them get vital documents such as photo IDs and birth certificates. 01:37:38
Um, this is something that people often kind of stop the process because it's it's a lengthy process. Or has. 01:37:43
Fees associated with it and through this agreement we can help mitigate those issues for our clients and help them. 01:37:50
To, you know, come out of homelessness on the other side. 01:37:59
Supervisor Humphrey questions comments. I have no questions. 01:38:03
Supervisor Christiansen. 01:38:07
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Kerry. Yeah, this is. 01:38:08
That's great. Thank you. 01:38:12
So. 01:38:14
We've been doing this before. 01:38:16
No, this is the new new agreement with the Homeless ID project that just came about. 01:38:19
OK, so I see a lot of advantages to this for folks take advantage of this deep. 01:38:25
So you haven't started it yet, right? You're going to when's that start date going? 01:38:31
Yeah. 01:38:36
The agreement says July 1, so as soon as it gets approved, we can begin. 01:38:37
So I'm really curious as to how many people would take advantage of this, I mean or use it, not take advantage of it, but use it. 01:38:44
I mean that would be something to see. I'm I'm curious to see that you know? 01:38:49
I I always makes me wonder, well, homeless people, you know, if they're. 01:38:55
Off the grid for a reason maybe? 01:38:59
You know, or some of them just struggling and trying to get back on their feet, Which documents like you're willing to help them 01:39:02
with is a huge plus. So this will be something. 01:39:07
Kind of cool to watch and see how it does for you. Yeah, absolutely. And we'll we'll be starting to have metrics that we can bring 01:39:13
back to also let you know how successful it's been. We would appreciate an update. Thank you that I'd entertain a motion and Mr. 01:39:19
Chairman, if I may add this one and that's the people in the past and my self included. 01:39:25
There's been a stigma for homelessness, but. 01:39:31
The things have changed quite a bit now to where people that don't want to be homeless are becoming that way or they're becoming 01:39:33
in this transitional state. 01:39:38
Either of their rent, they're they're renting something they can't afford any longer, they've lost something like their car and 01:39:42
they can't fix it, then they can't go to work that it's just a big thing. So anyway, I thank you for that comment. And with that, 01:39:49
I'll make the move to approve a memorandum of understanding with the Homeless ID project. 01:39:57
Incorporated as presented. 01:40:04
Mr. Chair, I'll second that having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, Aye, aye, Motion carries. Thank you. 01:40:08
Honda L Information Discussion Action to adopt the Fiscal Year 24 Proposed Salary Salary Plan Positively affecting. 01:40:17
All 459 of the county's full time employees and utilizing. 01:40:27
$1,504,716.00 of available budget capacity to implement the Fiscal Year 24 salary plan. 01:40:32
Effective the first full period period in 24. 01:40:43
Man, that's a mouthful. 01:40:47
Good morning, Mr. Chair. 01:40:51
Supervisor Humphrey, Supervisor Christensen. 01:40:52
We did use the computer to do the math. There was number black box involved and the numbers that went in matched the numbers that 01:40:56
came out and they were verified by at least three other professionals in the room. 01:41:01
When we brought you our. 01:41:09
Our proposed budget a couple of weeks ago and. 01:41:11
And as we talked about a variety of things preparing the budget this year. 01:41:15
We talked about what capacity was available for. 01:41:19
Creating a. 01:41:23
Wage increase. 01:41:25
Positively affecting as many of our staff as possible. 01:41:27
The plan that we have come up with that's illustrated here. 01:41:31
Positively affects all 459 full time regular employees here at Gila County. 01:41:34
It uses $1,504,716.00 of available capacity. 01:41:40
Of that. 01:41:47
Just over 1,008,000 is from the general fund. 01:41:48
And then 496,000 would come from the special revenue fund. 01:41:52
This also includes enough funding to cover the benefits linked to those those salary increases. 01:41:56
Included in the calculation was making sure that the lowest pay grade would come up to $15.00 an hour. That's $1.20 per hour 01:42:07
increase from our current lowest pay rate of 1380. 01:42:14
We are working to make sure that the separation between pay grades is 2 1/2 percent. 01:42:22
And that that systematically increases as we go up through the pay grades. 01:42:29
And. 01:42:34
That it create that it works to reduce compression. 01:42:35
We also know that there are additional challenges with compression and. 01:42:39
On paper performance. 01:42:44
So in addition to this 1,500,000 that we're talking about. 01:42:46
To be effective the first full pay period in July, we also are proposing to build in 1.6%. 01:42:52
To be used at the departmental level. 01:43:01
And I don't mean. 01:43:04
To give free rein to department directors, I mean to. 01:43:06
And to ensure that each department can have. 01:43:09
Have capacity for pay, for performance and to ameliorate compression issues. 01:43:13
Umm. 01:43:18
We would talk later about. 01:43:19
What exactly those criteria were, But we wanted to make sure that this discussion came to you separate from next week's final 01:43:22
budget adoption. 01:43:26
So that not only could you have a conversation about it, but you could also. 01:43:30
Um, have documentation now and for the future, for all your constituents and for all the staff. 01:43:36
That these considerations were taken seriously, that that we looked at all of these items. 01:43:41
And took your consideration seriously. We've been talking about the budget for five months now. 01:43:48
And we we worked as closely as we could with everybody we could to come up with this. 01:43:53
So the base adjustment pay for all employees is 4.9% with this. 01:44:00
Then there's a second layer. 01:44:05
That would ensure that the minimum salary increase. 01:44:07
Would be $3000 for the year. 01:44:11
So. 01:44:13
What that works out to is any employee making less than. 01:44:14
Right now making less than $61,225. 01:44:18
Will receive the minimum $3000 annual increase. 01:44:22
And then the salary increases range from 9.75% to 4.9%. 01:44:26
And some of the. 01:44:33
Salaries on the the lower end, closer to entry level, needed a little bit more adjustment, so we worked together with. 01:44:35
With staff to develop that. 01:44:42
That range. So we're here to answer any questions for you and to give you whatever other information we might. 01:44:46
Be able to provide. 01:44:52
Thank you, Mayor. 01:44:56
That's a lot to think about here in the next minute. 01:44:58
Supervisor Healthy. 01:45:01
Mr. Thank you. Yeah, I I looked over this and and there was an awful lot of thought. 01:45:04
The and in two. 01:45:09
These calculations I mean, when I looked at it, I I was pretty impressed with. 01:45:11
Of of the thought that went in of all of the different. 01:45:16
Ranges that you had to deal with with the minimum wage and on up. So I I just appreciate all the. 01:45:20
But you know, you could have thrown something together to put to us and you, didn't you, you you put an awful lot of thought and 01:45:27
effort into this and appreciate it very much. And I'm sure that the employees will as well. I wish I could take credit for it. 01:45:33
There were 11 different iterations, Mr. Menlo. 01:45:38
Was super helpful in in addressing all the nuances. 01:45:45
My plan was not nearly this elegant or or well thought out so. 01:45:49
It it is definitely a product of teamwork and I'm really, really fortunate to work with great people who. 01:45:54
Who put a lot of time and effort into this? 01:45:59
OK, then I won't give you all the credit as I you thought I did before. 01:46:02
They. 01:46:08
Thank, thank everyone that worked on this and maybe we need to get them a little plaque and have them stand up front employee of 01:46:09
the year or something, but thank you very much. 01:46:14
Supervisor Christensen, Yes, thank you Chairman and thank you Mayor. And and I'll just say thank you. We're credited due. 01:46:20
And I think it is a good plan and I'm just going to ask and you can just give me a round about you if if you know so on this 01:46:26
second layer minimum pay adjustment 3000 would be. 01:46:32
The minimum. 01:46:38
Amount someone would get. How many employees does that affect? 01:46:41
The employees, would that be 102 hundred? I think it's almost 300, but I'd have to look at the list at 2:30. So it's it's a. 01:46:47
Vast majority of all vascularity, right? Or at least 50%. So OK, good. Here's more closer It's over 60 percent, 60%. It is a 01:46:57
significant number of employees that. 01:47:03
Yeah, I'm glad to see that. Thank you. 01:47:10
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you James and everybody else I Yeah. 01:47:12
And if we can help more people, especially at the bottom end, I know you know that's where my heart is, is at the lower levels, 01:47:18
not at the top, so. 01:47:22
But thank you very much for what you put together. I appreciate it. 01:47:26
That I didn't take a motion. 01:47:30
Mr. Chair, I moved to adopt. 01:47:33
The FY20 24 salary plan. 01:47:35
As presented, I will second that having a motion, and second all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye, motion carries. 01:47:40
Thank you, Mayor. And you got one another one. So. 01:47:49
Him Information, Discussion Action to Adopt Fiscal Year 24, Full Cost Allocation Plan, and CFR Code of Federal Regulations. 01:47:53
Cost allocation plan man. 01:48:01
Good morning again, Mr. Chair, Supervisor Christensen, Supervisor Humphrey. 01:48:04
I put together a PowerPoint for this and then looked at the agenda and thought, there's no way you're going to want to sit through 01:48:09
another one. 01:48:12
So. 01:48:15
Today I will keep it short. We expected to have printed copies for you today, and they have not come in yet. 01:48:16
Each one is about this thick, and you'd each get two of them, so. 01:48:22
When those come in, we will distribute them to you. 01:48:27
This is. 01:48:30
Effectively a scientific distribution of the complete cost of running the county across all the functions of what the county does. 01:48:32
We have an obligation under federal regulation. 01:48:41
To. 01:48:45
Maintain a cost allocation plan. 01:48:46
To have that done by a professional firm. 01:48:49
So Seinfeld Meech has prepared the one that we received. 01:48:52
And are hoping to adopt. Today there are two versions. The full version does all the costs across the whole county. 01:48:56
The CFR version is the one that is based on the Code of Federal Regulations and limits some of the expenses that can be allocated. 01:49:03
But it dictates what we calculate it cost to run a grant or program. So that when we apply for a grant or program, instead of 01:49:12
saying that we'll take the 10% de minimis, we can say what the actual administrative cost is. 01:49:21
And then that information gets passed on to the grantor. 01:49:31
And then we can go back and forth on it. We do have a couple of Grand Tours who are waiting for us to approve the CFR plan so that 01:49:34
they can approve. 01:49:39
Those programs budgets for next year. 01:49:45
So we're bringing this to you today for your approval. 01:49:48
Should you choose to approve it, we can then have a meeting with leadership and department heads. 01:49:52
Sharing the information, making sure everybody has. 01:49:58
What they need to go out to their grant agencies. 01:50:01
And then this documentation also. 01:50:05
Ensures. 01:50:08
That when? 01:50:09
You as the Board of Supervisor and Mr. Menlo choose to have a conversation about. 01:50:11
Umm. 01:50:16
Whether something is cost effective, you know exactly what those metrics should be, and you have an external source. 01:50:17
To identify that. 01:50:24
And this is unfortunately our last year of using Heimfeld Niche. They are not going to be doing cost allocation plans after this 01:50:26
year. So we will be coming back to you probably in the next three months. 01:50:31
To ask to go out to advertise for bids for next year's. 01:50:36
OK. Thank you, man. 01:50:41
Supervisor Humphrey questions. I have no questions. The supervisor Christensen, thank you, no questions. James, do you have 01:50:43
something you want to chime in on here? 01:50:48
Since you gave me the opportunity, I will. 01:50:54
Take it. 01:50:56
Several months ago, that may have been 5-6 months ago, that Mister O'Driscoll presented to you a discussion of potentially what do 01:50:58
we charge for services? 01:51:03
This plan. 01:51:08
Defines delineates. 01:51:10
What the cost of the services that we are providing to external entities? 01:51:12
And also internal entities of what we can charge a grant. For a lot of our grants, we do not charge any indirect cost, even though 01:51:18
there's money in the budget for that. 01:51:23
So without getting too long winded I hope. 01:51:29
That we will be bringing this back for you with the detail of. 01:51:31
What? 01:51:35
We can legitimately, as a county, charged for services. 01:51:37
Has a potential. 01:51:41
Revenue source for Healey County. 01:51:43
Now we're not gonna recommend that we need to charge or not charge, and there's some articles in the newspaper. 01:51:46
What should we charge? 01:51:51
None of that. 01:51:53
We just need to be aware of what those amounts are. 01:51:54
And then make the conscious decision. 01:51:58
I'm a financial direction that we go with account. 01:52:01
So that's what all this, all this work, and like she said, it's about this much documentation in the in the final report form. 01:52:04
So I think that's a good thing, you know and and for this I think it's good to show and talk about the fact that which I would 01:52:12
just gas off the top of my head a lot of it'll be contributed costs to some. 01:52:17
Somebody. Some. 01:52:24
Other branch, some other. Whoever may be, you know we've. 01:52:25
We've we've helped people out with space and everything else for a lot of years. 01:52:29
And. 01:52:34
And so this is a this is good to show that, hey, you know? 01:52:36
This is what the county is putting into this program, or programs or whatever it may be so. 01:52:40
I appreciate. I appreciate seeing those costs. 01:52:45
Not to say that all vote to use them other than contributed, but I. 01:52:48
Not I'm tender for that purpose. Yeah. Thank you, James. 01:52:53
So with that, I entertain a motion, Mr. Chairman, I'll move to adopt the fiscal year 2024 full cost. 01:52:56
Allocation Plan and Code of Federal Regulations Cost Allocation Plan as presented. 01:53:02
Mr. Chair, I'll second that having a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye. Motion carries on to 01:53:08
Ian. 01:53:12
Information Discussion Action to award the following contracts in response to invitation for bids number. 01:53:17
041823 01:53:24
or Topsy Transport services as outlined in a cost sheet for each contract. 01:53:26
Contract number 041823 A to Zen. 01:53:32
LLC, DBA Sanders Family Transport. 01:53:37
In an amount not to exceed $50,000 for the period of July 1st 23. 01:53:43
Through June 30th. 01:53:49
24 and contract number 04/1. 01:53:50
823 B and Lamont Mortuary of Globe and an amount not to exceed $50,000 for the period of July 1st, 23 through June 30th, 24. 01:53:54
Thank you Mr. Chair, Supervisor Christensen, Supervisor Humphrey. We received two bids for our autopsy transport services. 01:54:06
Each of the responding bidders included various responses. 01:54:15
For the communities. 01:54:22
Within Heela County, so we analyzed each. 01:54:24
Communities response individually and then determined to issue 2 contracts. 01:54:28
To be the best stewards of resources. 01:54:35
So those. 01:54:38
Contracts split in a way that Lamont Mortuary will be providing the most cost effective service for Roosevelt, San Carlos and 01:54:39
Dripping Springs. 01:54:44
And. 01:54:49
8 to 10 DBA Sanders Family Transport will be providing service for the other communities listed here for HeLa County. 01:54:51
The cost does include transport and a regular duty transport bag. 01:54:59
OK. Thank you man. Surprise to Humphrey. 01:55:06
I have no questions I I guess. I guess that the. 01:55:10
Contract award. 01:55:14
Entities. 01:55:16
Are happy by by splitting this instead of just having one do all. 01:55:18
We have in the current or the most recent year, we split them across the entities based on on cost, responsibility so. 01:55:25
They always have the option to decline the contract if they if they choose, Yeah, no, I. 01:55:37
I think it, I think it's great that if if they work together to help us perform the duties that we need to perform that that's a 01:55:42
good thing. 01:55:46
Supervisor Christensen, Thank you, Chairman, and thank you Mayor. No, I have nothing. 01:55:51
So I know Lamont is local. Is the other one local as well? I believe they're in Apache Junction. 01:55:56
OK, you can see them when they're in town, you can see their van and it like the back of their car, says Afterlife Specialists on 01:56:02
it. 01:56:06
It you will be singing in the Ghostbusters song in your head. 01:56:11
For a while after you see it, because you won't, you can't Unsee it. 01:56:14
But there they are, frequently in town. 01:56:18
Will just orbit understand? They're not related to me. No, They are who they are where they are. They're not related to me. No, I 01:56:21
can vote on this one. 01:56:25
Alright, I didn't gain a motion. 01:56:29
Mr. I moved to award 2 contracts in response to amputation for bid number 0418. 01:56:32
2/3 as follows. 01:56:39
Contract number 04182382. Zen. 01:56:42
LLC Eva Sanders Family Transfer. 01:56:48
Port. 01:56:52
And contract number 041823 B Tillemont Mortuary of Globest presented. I will second. 01:56:53
Having a motion and second all in favor this so by saying aye aye aye motion carries. 01:57:00
Man, thank you, Thank you. 01:57:06
Onto OHH Information discussion Action to approve Amendment number one to Contract number 100521 Dash Landscaping Services for 01:57:08
Hella Proud Dash Hwy. 60 Cleanup and Maintenance Project in the Amount of. 01:57:16
$132,500 for the period of July 1st 23 through June 30th 24 Amy. 01:57:24
OK. Thank you, Chairman. The supervisors? 01:57:32
I feel like I've been up here a lot for this, so. 01:57:35
I'm thankful that to bring you. 01:57:38
Request for approval of Amendment #1. 01:57:40
For the landscaping services for Helen Pratt. And that's just to continue with Allegiance builders in the work that they've done 01:57:43
this past year. 01:57:46
And so amendment number one to the contract that we had for 22. 01:57:51
OK. 01:57:56
Supervisor Humphrey. 01:57:57
Well, I I, I have quite a few questions, but I'm sure you probably can't answer most of them for me. So I'll, I'll leave it alone. 01:57:59
Yeah. My questions would be more of the contractor, not not the contract. 01:58:05
But anyway. 01:58:12
I'll, I'll let that go. Thank you. I would be happy to put you guys together so that you can at least ask. Well won't do much good 01:58:14
after this is approved or not approved. So anyway that's that's OK that's OK. 01:58:20
Sweet. 01:58:27
We are having a meeting but it will still be up to the approval and he was present at one of our meetings but. 01:58:28
It was so long that he we didn't end up OK. 01:58:34
Trying to make sure you good. 01:58:39
Sure. 01:58:43
Supervision. 01:58:44
Thank you. I have no questions. 01:58:47
So, so this is Amendment #1 going forward in this deal. So I guess the prior work that. 01:58:50
Folks have done for us. 01:58:56
Is satisfactory, is that what we're saying? 01:58:58
That was what I understood from the work session that it was that we were to move ahead because it was satisfactory. OK. I would 01:59:02
be happy to. If there are questions I I want to take them to our contractor. 01:59:07
And if there needs to be improvements, we need to address those. 01:59:13
Don't I, I guess just one question, Mr. Chair. Yeah, go ahead. 01:59:17
And and there are other entities. 01:59:20
Paying into this contract. 01:59:23
For this company. 01:59:26
At at this point that for FY20 22 there have been but on Thursday at 2:00 PM we have a meeting here with those partners and. 01:59:28
And we'll be addressing that and and the and the total amount of this service with our other people. Do we know that? 01:59:37
The total amount of 132,500. 01:59:45
That's the total amount that that's not what we pay that that that. No, no, the county pays 53,053 thousand, OK. 01:59:49
Alright. 01:59:59
Thank you. 02:00:02
So then, so we'll know if our other partners are going to chime in and help us out on this Thursday, later this week. Yes, and the 02:00:03
expectation is. 02:00:07
The positive one, OK. And I'm, I'm actually hoping for more because we're going to look at some other not just cleaning and 02:00:11
maintenance, but beautification as well. 02:00:16
So cool, we'll have that that meeting on Thursday. 02:00:20
James. 02:00:24
As chairman, that's who I don't be the meeting on Thursdays with our partners. So we're going to solidify the contributions and 02:00:26
the different people that are contributing to this. 02:00:31
As Amy says, 53,000 from HeLa County. The rest is coming from our partners. 02:00:36
Looking for that continuation. 02:00:41
We'd be glad to have you come on Tuesday Supervisor Humphrey to that meeting. I don't know if the vendor has been invited to that 02:00:44
meeting and invited he's been invited because maybe there would be good. I'm sure the other vendors are gonna have that 02:00:50
discussion. I'm sorry but Mr. Chair if I may, I mean here we're approving the total contract. We're only $53,000 of $132,000 02:00:56
contract and we don't know if our partners are agreeing to that yet. But we're we're approving the contract. So if we approve it 02:01:02
and the partners don't, did we just. 02:01:08
Approved to pay the $132,000 that they say April Fools and we're on the hook. 02:01:14
I I just that just doesn't sound. 02:01:20
Professional to me. 02:01:23
Hey. 02:01:26
I mean, I I'd be happy to approve $53,000. Is there a higher portion can delay this? 02:01:28
I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman. I don't see a reason we can't. 02:01:35
Delay of laughter. 02:01:38
As well after that meeting. 02:01:40
Miss Chairman, Let's see if we can. 02:01:42
Put this off until next week. 02:01:44
OK. Yeah, I just that just. 02:01:46
Set alarms up or a second option. 02:01:50
Mr. Chairman, Supervisor Humphrey is that you can make it. 02:01:53
Contingent. 02:01:56
On having. 02:01:58
How how much 70,000 of partners contributing to that so or or the things in Intermountain our amount is only 53,000 of. 02:02:00
Right of the 132. 02:02:11
Right. 02:02:15
Yeah, I I'm, I'm good with that. 02:02:16
Now, is there by chance that we would have more partners, step up to the plate and want to be a part of this program you think or 02:02:19
is anybody else looking at? 02:02:23
But the meeting is actually. 02:02:29
Part of the. 02:02:30
One of the things that we'll try to accomplish at the meeting is identifying more partners. 02:02:32
So it actually makes sense to do it that way. 02:02:37
Umm. 02:02:40
Are you good? 02:02:43
Kind of members, supervisors, yes, I'm good. You could make the motion contingent on the other partner support or you could 02:02:45
indicate that the county would pay up to that 53,000. 02:02:50
OK, I I I get a warm fuzzy feeling now. I didn't know. 02:02:56
Yeah. 02:03:01
You're good. 02:03:03
Alright, with that, I'd entertain a motion. 02:03:05
Mr. Chairman, I'll move to approve amendment number one to contract number 100521 in the amount totaling $132,500. 02:03:07
With the county Ohio counties portion not to exceed 53,000 as presented. 02:03:20
Mr. Chair, I'll second that motion. Having a motion second. All in favor. Do so by saying aye. Aye, Aye, aye. Motion carries. 02:03:27
Thank you, ladies. Thank you. Thank you. And I hope I didn't create any issues. OK. 02:03:33
On to PEE Information Discussion action. 02:03:39
To sell the surplus metal handicap ramp to Our Lady of the Blessed Sacrament Church located at 844 W Sullivan St. 02:03:43
Miami, Arizona 85539. 02:03:52
Illegal. 02:03:56
Nonprofit organization operating in the state of Arizona for the price of $20 and for the specific use of utilizing the handicap 02:03:58
ramp at the nonprofits location to allow better access by those who are disabled. And Mr. Humphrey, you are the presenter. 02:04:06
Yeah, Mr. Chair. As you know, Hitler County Fairgrounds is one of my pet. And cleaning it up it is another. And we've got a bone 02:04:14
yard out there that's really a bone yard. I mean, I don't know if you've seen it or not, but it's scary. 02:04:20
And and so we have some. 02:04:27
Pieces and portions out there that can be used for something other than scrap metal. 02:04:30
To benefit our community and people in our community. 02:04:37
And so that's why it's before you this morning. 02:04:42
To sell this for for $20. 02:04:46
To help the Blessed Sacrament Church. 02:04:50
With a handicap ramp and I'm not sure that work that's gonna take to put this together to do it, but but God love them for trying 02:04:55
to help us clean up the bone yard. 02:05:00
And and and put this to use to help the community. 02:05:05
And that that's that's my spiel. 02:05:10
Thank you Supervisor Christensen. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Thank you Supervisor Humphrey. I have no problem with this at all, but I 02:05:13
wanted to make sure that. 02:05:17
That we're going through the correct legal process here for moving this equipment out. 02:05:22
Ohh yes, chairman, Member, supervisors, Yes, these statutes have been complied with. The requirement here is that there would be 02:05:28
unanimous consent of the board to move forward without an auction in order to sell for property. 02:05:35
And so it would need to be unanimous. Also there would need to be a specification that this is for a specific use to be utilized 02:05:42
at the building as a handicap ramp. 02:05:47
OK. Thank you. 02:05:53
I'm good. How was mixed motion? 02:05:56
Mr. Chair, I move to sell the surplus metal handicap ramp to Our Lady. 02:05:59
Of the Blessed Sacrament Church. 02:06:06
In the amount of. 02:06:08
$20 as presented to be used for handicap room. 02:06:11
I will second that having a motion, and second all in favor do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye motion carries. 02:06:17
On the Queue information discussion Action to ratify the Board of Supervisors approval. 02:06:25
For the submittal of the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission, AC JC. 02:06:30
Fiscal Year 24 Crime Victim Compensation Program Grant Application. 02:06:35
Approve a CJC Fiscal Year 24 Crime Victim Compensation Program Grant Agreement number VC-2024-004. 02:06:41
In the amount of $71,426 for the period of July 1st, 23. 02:06:54
Through June 30th 24 and authorized the Board Chairman to electronically sign the agreement. 02:07:01
In the morning, I didn't know. It's good afternoon. Afternoon. Yes, good afternoon gentlemen. 02:07:07
Umm. 02:07:14
Not quite well. 02:07:17
We applied for this grant and we received this. 02:07:18
In the past, I'm talking about the past. We had applied for the grant. It would come in, then we would present it to the board for 02:07:22
approval. 02:07:27
Now it's all electronic. 02:07:31
So they approved it. 02:07:35
And whoever is supposed to sign it I'm sure already got it. 02:07:37
And that's why we're here. 02:07:41
So, and this is a grant that we apply for every year. 02:07:43
And we usually receive it every year. OK, thank you. Supervisor Humphrey. Questions, comments. I have no questions, Supervisor 02:07:47
questions, Sir, and I'm good as well. So with that, I'd entertain a motion. So I'll move to ratify this middle of the Arizona 02:07:55
Criminal Justice Commission fiscal year 2024 Crime Victim Compensation program grant application and approve the AC JC Fiscal year 02:08:02
2024 Crime Victim Compensation program grant agreement number VC-2024. 02:08:10
Dash 004 in the amount of $71,426 as presented. 02:08:18
I'll second that Mr. Chair having a motion. Second. All in favor. Do so by saying aye. Aye, aye, aye. Thank you. Motion passes. 02:08:24
Thank you. 02:08:28
On to our information discussion action. 02:08:33
Ratify the Board of Supervisors approval for the submittal of the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission. AC JC. 02:08:36
Fiscal Year 24 Drug gang and violent crime control grant application. 02:08:43
Approve CJC Fiscal Year 24 Drug Gang and Violent Crime Control Grant Agreement number. 02:08:49
DC-24-023. 02:08:56
In the amount of $91,758.81 for the period of July 1st, 23 through June 30th, 24 and authorized the Board Chairman to 02:08:59
electronically sign the agreement and Jessica. 02:09:05
Interested. 02:09:12
Yes, Chairman, Member supervisors. This is another grant that the Healey County Attorney's Office submits every year. It's been 02:09:13
effective for the past 30-6 years. 02:09:18
It is with the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission, Drug, Gang and Criminal Control. 02:09:23
The the grant will assist the funding for a full time prosecutor to work hand in hand with the task force and this the purpose of 02:09:29
the grant is to alleviate drug and violent crimes and throughout Hello County. 02:09:36
Now there is a small match and the state will contribute $31,197.99, the federal government will contribute $37,621.11 and the 02:09:42
match obligation by Healey County is $22,939.71. 02:09:52
And this would. 02:10:02
Mean that the Helix County Attorney's Office would have the ability to contribute $91,758.81 to that assigned prosecutor to work 02:10:04
hand in hand with the task force. 02:10:09
And I'm here for any questions. Thank you, Jessica. Supervisor Humphrey. 02:10:15
I have no question. 02:10:19
Super Supervisor Christian. Thank you, Jessica. No questions. You say we're good, We're good, We're good. I'll entertain a motion. 02:10:21
Thank you. 02:10:24
Mr. Chair, I moved to ratify the submittal of the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission. 02:10:28
Commissions. 02:10:34
AC JC Physical year 2024 Drug, gang and violent crime. 02:10:35
Control Grant application and approve the AC JC Physical Year 2024 Drug, Gang and Violent Crime Control Grant Agreement, number 02:10:41
DC-24-023. 02:10:48
In the amount of $91,758.81 as presented. 02:10:56
I will second that having a motion in a second. All in favor. Do so by saying aye, Aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, 02:11:03
Jessica. 02:11:06
Auntie Yes, I will need a motion to adjourn as the HeLa County Board of Supervisors and convene as the HeLa County Library 02:11:11
District Board of Directors. So move Chairman. 02:11:15
I need a second. I'll second that motion. Second, all in favor. Do so by saying aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. 02:11:22
Information Discussion Action to Approve Library Service Agreements for Globe Public Library. 02:11:31
Isabel Hunt, Miami Payson Tunnel Basin. 02:11:37
And young public libraries for the period of July 1st, 23 to June 30th, 24 Elaine, good afternoon. I think someone's ready to go 02:11:41
home. 02:11:45
Good, good afternoon. I appreciate the time. This is our annual library service agreements that we contract with our seven 02:11:51
affiliate libraries to call cooperate in the provisions of libraries services. 02:11:57
So this isn't that. The district, these library service agreements, service contracts, or facilitating funds and resource sharing. 02:12:03
Currently we have six of the seven back. 02:12:09
And they are as mentioned before. So we ask that you approve the library service agreements or these libraries and I will answer 02:12:12
any questions. Thank you, Elaine, Supervisor Humphrey. I have no question. Supervisor Christian, so questions. Thank you. 02:12:18
And so which one are we waiting on? 02:12:25
We are waiting on San Carlos, OK? 02:12:29
Alright, with that I entertain a motion. Mr. Chair. I move to approve the Library service agreement. 02:12:32
Before you go Public Library, Isabelle Hunt, Miami Payson Tunnel Basin and Young public libraries as presented. 02:12:38
I will 2nd that I mean a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye aye aye motion carries on to T. 02:12:47
Information, discussion and action to approve a Library Service Agreement. 02:12:54
For Hayden Public Library, the period of July 1st 23 through June 30th 24 Elaine, HI, Mr. Chairman, Supervisors. 02:12:59
OK, because we run the Hayden library as a branch, I decided to do this as a separate agreement. 02:13:07
On the. 02:13:12
Agreement is provides the same funding, the same rubric that we've used in the past for all of the other libraries, with the 02:13:13
exception that we will have staff or our current employees. 02:13:19
The Town of Hayden provides the Library building free of charge to the Keeler County Library District. 02:13:24
And the town of Hayden is responsible for maintaining and ensuring the library property. 02:13:29
OK. Supervisor Humphrey. Mr. Chair, I have no questions. Supervisor Christian, thank you, Elaine, no questions. 02:13:34
Neither do I so that anything in motion. 02:13:42
Mr. Chair, I move to approve the library service agreement for the Hayden Public Libraries presented. Mr. Chair, I will second 02:13:45
that. Have them having a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye aye. 02:13:50
I motion carries. Thank you, Elaine. And I'll need a motion to adjourn as the HeLa County Library District Board of Directors and 02:13:56
reconvene as a Healer County Board of Supervisors. So moved, Mr. Chair. 02:14:02
All in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye Motion carries. 02:14:08
On to #5 consent agenda action items. Do either of you have anything you want to talk about remove? 02:14:13
Do anything with no sure. 02:14:22
No, Sir. 02:14:24
So I need a motion to accept them. 02:14:25
OK. I will move to approve consent agenda items 4A through 5D. I'm sorry. 02:14:28
I move to approve consent agenda items 5A through 5D. 02:14:34
I'll second that having a motion in a second. All in favor, Diesel, by saying aye, aye. 02:14:41
Aye. 02:14:47
Tim and you, good bye. 02:14:48
Motion carries. 02:14:49
Number six, call to the public. Do we have any call the public impatient? Looks like you're it, Joseph. 02:14:51
Yep, no public up here. OK? How are we doing on YouTube? 02:14:57
Any comments how many are on there? 02:15:01
41 right on. 02:15:05
And I don't believe we have anyone here. So we'll move on to Seven at anytime during this meeting pursuant to ARS 38431.02 K. 02:15:08
We can give our updates and James, do you have any updates for us? 02:15:18
Mr. Chairman, I wanted to, if I could, take a few minutes. 02:15:23
Two weeks ago the Auditor General came and spoke about our audits, and I was. 02:15:28
On YouTube at the time and I just wanted to express appreciation. 02:15:33
To Marin and her team. 02:15:36
That they do a tremendous job. 02:15:38
And what she does. 02:15:41
And a lot of the struggles, a lot of things they have is we have a big county, a lot of employees, a lot of financial transactions 02:15:43
that are going through. 02:15:47
500 employees. 02:15:52
And sometimes, taking care of all of that is like herding cats. 02:15:54
Or or mice or whatever you want to call it, but. 02:15:59
Marian and her team does a tremendous job to get to the point of so many times if somebody out in in a department that doesn't 02:16:03
follow our established policies and procedures. 02:16:09
And Marin has to resort to cutting off a credit card or something that. 02:16:14
Can upset a an elected official or department director, but these things are critical. These things are important as they were 02:16:19
identified by the Auditor General. 02:16:23
And I appreciate Mayor and your team for. 02:16:27
Doing that for putting in the effort. 02:16:32
And having got us current and with our audits. 02:16:35
That's a tremendous effort, and I acknowledge her for all she does. 02:16:39
Secondly, I believe that while I was out that you were had an opportunity to be introduced to Kaylee. 02:16:44
With our community services department. 02:16:51
I I've asked her if she would. 02:16:53
And I I didn't. I didn't see that. I'm not sure how I missed it, but I didn't didn't see what she presented. So I've asked her 02:16:57
today if she would. 02:17:00
Tell us a little bit about herself where she's. 02:17:03
Where she came from? What? 02:17:07
Brought her to this point. 02:17:08
Of. 02:17:10
Be in our community services director here in Needham County because she's from the Midwest. 02:17:12
From. 02:17:17
Kansas, Illinois. Nationally known Illinois. 02:17:18
But. 02:17:22
The past couple of months she's she's been given a lot to do and a lot of. 02:17:26
Things that have required a lot of attention and has been mentioned in the past, like drinking. 02:17:31
Expecting drink from a water fountain and drinking from a fire hose. 02:17:36
Kaylee has been literally drinking from a fire hose and I've asked. 02:17:41
Mr. O'Driscoll, at times. 02:17:45
So she's not going anywhere. She's sticking with us and and we haven't scared her away yet and and. 02:17:47
Michael assures me that she's. 02:17:53
Sticking to a A1 word through interview process, we had internal, external candidates. 02:17:55
Kato was clearer than the one that was the right person for this job, even though she's growing up through the health department 02:18:01
and program manager in the health department. 02:18:05
Her skills, her talents and her abilities. 02:18:09
Have translated well to the community service department, so. 02:18:12
OK. Could you take a couple minutes and come on up, Kaylee, if that's OK, Miss Chairman absolutely is. 02:18:15
Tell us about you. Thank you. 02:18:22
Yeah, so I grew up in Illinois. I went to university in Indiana, where I got my Bachelors and masters degrees in public health, 02:18:25
which is how I found my way to the health department and Mr. School and and Mr. Beck. 02:18:32
And yeah, I I've always wanted to serve. 02:18:41
My community and I fell in love with you. The county. I grew up early, very rural in Illinois, so I feel right at home in. 02:18:45
In Heela County, in terms of you know what I want to do with the future of community services, I'm just really excited to be in a 02:18:53
position that helps our community. So I want to continue to do that and improve upon that. I just. 02:19:00
Want to highlight like the the good things that we do with weatherization, our diaper distribution program that's been. 02:19:07
Very successful thus far and then partnering with the health department and our dental services. 02:19:15
And. 02:19:21
In addition to that, just working with our community partners has been has been really great so far and I want to continue to do 02:19:22
that as well as help them to kind of find their own funding in addition to what we can do to help. 02:19:28
I'm very happy to be here. Good. 02:19:35
Supervisor Humphrey. 02:19:38
Yeah. I just want to say thank you very much. That's an important position. 02:19:40
Or Hillary County, because we have a lot of people that need a lot of help. 02:19:44
And I'm I met you at Melissa's Going away party, Was nice to meet you. And then I offered my assistance. 02:19:48
That's 27 years as a contractor knowledge and also as a supervisor. 02:19:56
And if you forgot, I just wanted to refresh you that if I can help in any way feel free to call. I appreciate that. Thank you, 02:20:01
Sir. Supervisor Christensen. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Kaylee. That's a real pleasure to have you in that position. 02:20:07
We have a lot of great employees and you're a great example of that. And so I look forward to working with you and I'll offer also 02:20:14
extend my offer if you need something. Let me know if we can help you. We're here to help. Thanks. 02:20:21
Same goes with me, Kaylee. Yeah, we're here to support you and. 02:20:28
Well, means that there's anything you need help with or whatever. Just reach out to us and and holler at us and. 02:20:33
Michael, whatever go through the chain, I guess. 02:20:39
Bring calls, direct tech. It gets it gets Michael's blood going in the mornings too so it's good for him. But anyway we're we're 02:20:43
glad to have you. You you do have a real important department there. We do have a lot of people that that we have helped through 02:20:50
all the years and so it's it's good to see you and have you in there. Thank you. 02:20:58
Thank you. 02:21:07
And I'm looking forward to Saturday. 02:21:09
Yeah. 02:21:11
I heard you're bringing lunch. 02:21:13
I'll get on that. 02:21:16
Just bring your card, It's alright. 02:21:19
Ohh. 02:21:21
I must be one of the rats that got shut off. Welcome back, Jay, but to be here. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of Board, Thank 02:21:25
you, Supervisor Humphrey. 02:21:30
I'm good. Updates. You're good. Supervisor Christensen. With what am I good? I don't know. Yeah, tell us. This is our report, 02:21:35
right? Yeah. OK. I just wanted to let you know that on the 4th I went to a reading of the Constitution at Green Valley Park. 02:21:43
They do that annually. That was interesting. And then also was on the radio K rim. I'll be on Cam watching next week. 02:21:52
And then also. 02:21:58
I met with 606 people concerned about our rural water, rural groundwater. OK, so. 02:22:01
Rural counties have groundwater for the most part, not surface water, and so we just basically discussed some of the identifying 02:22:09
the pros and cons of different ways of looking at how we might be able to protect that and one of those. 02:22:17
Protective things is a is something called the local groundwater stewardship. 02:22:26
Stewardship area. 02:22:31
And so we had a good discussion. 02:22:32
Thank you. 02:22:35
Thank you. And so I was in that same meeting only a little later since we couldn't be in the same time, but. 02:22:37
It was a it was a good conversation. Water has always been. Yes, she still is and probably will be forever. But. 02:22:44
So there's proposals and ideas coming out from the state level that I think is a county we we probably should be. 02:22:51
Involved with and, but we'll see where it goes. Craig Sullivan is on that board. 02:22:59
And I trust Craig. 02:23:04
100% and so. 02:23:06
So it's gonna be kind of interesting where that's gonna go, what what is gonna come out of it. But anyway. 02:23:08
What I have mostly is what I'm doing from here on out through this month, but. 02:23:15
Next Wednesday after the board meeting, I'll be going to DC to testify Thursday before the House of Natural Resource Committee, 02:23:21
and that's for the vet Center in Young. 02:23:26
So what they're doing is that bill is coming up now, is coming up in the House 1st and that's the resources. 02:23:32
And Senator or Congressman Crane has asked me to come out there and testify for that. 02:23:38
So I will be doing that and then. 02:23:43
That afternoon, once that is over, I'll be catching a plane for Austin, TX for the nickel conference or either one of you guys 02:23:46
going to the nickel conference. 02:23:50
So that's in Austin, TX. They'll be there. We'll you're going, you're gonna fly straight into. 02:23:54
Austin But we'll be there till Monday. Finally back. 02:24:00
And anyway, so this. 02:24:03
Naturally natural resource. 02:24:08
Committee meeting there. 02:24:11
I have high hopes for this. It seems like this this bill that the Senate and the House has put it in their force on on the vet 02:24:13
site is really gaining traction and starting to move. 02:24:18
And so I really hope it keeps up. 02:24:24
Things come out of it and we actually get it. 02:24:27
To us by the end of the year, that would be really awesome if we could do that. And it seems like there's a lot of interest in it 02:24:31
and a lot of excitement in it. 02:24:35
And so I'm really looking forward to that. 02:24:39
Tomorrow me and Kathy are gonna meet with the YC crew that's a county had put in place with the four service to work with the four 02:24:42
service. 02:24:46
And they've been traveling around the district, different districts, working and and doing an awesome job. 02:24:51
And so tomorrow we're gonna meet with them along with Long with it. 02:24:57
Has gone on conservation. 02:25:01
Core 2. 02:25:03
Who who is in charge of them? 02:25:04
So it looks like they've done an outstanding job and have been involved in a lot of different projects. 02:25:06
Which is really cool. So we'll get to talk to him about all that. 02:25:12
And. 02:25:15
This coming up weekend is the soft opening for the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat. 02:25:17
It is Saturday from 11:00 to 3:00. 02:25:23
And they'll be right there. It'll start at the main building and I assume you guys are gonna be there, right? 02:25:27
Cool. Good deal. 02:25:32
And we're gonna have a lot of people. I've. I'm expecting to show up there. The only representative that I know of right now in 02:25:34
person is is Congressman Gosar. 02:25:39
Last I heard, he's planning on being there. 02:25:45
Senator Kelly, Congressman Crane. 02:25:48
We're gonna have staff from their offices that'll be there and then. 02:25:52
Whoever else, I don't know. I think Senator Rogers is is planning on being there. 02:25:56
Representative Marshall will be there. 02:26:04
David Marshall will be there. 02:26:06
And we're going to present him with a little. 02:26:09
Gift from us from the county on his help in this project as well so. 02:26:11
Lot of invites went out. We'll just see who all filters in, but I'm expecting there to be quite a few people. It's looking good, 02:26:18
the facilities. 02:26:23
Department and contractors are really hustling around there right now, trying to get everything in order and ready for Saturday. 02:26:27
And it's looking out outstanding as far as the site goes. 02:26:34
So that's. 02:26:38
I think we're gonna be in good shape. Also during that there will be a shirt and hats for sale. 02:26:39
Kathy. 02:26:48
Kathy weren't modeled these so. 02:26:49
Anyway, this is the hat. 02:26:51
Says. 02:26:53
Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat on the front of it. 02:26:54
And. 02:26:57
This this would be the shirt. 02:26:59
And the same thing, it has Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat on the front of it as well. So these will be there for sale, plus I 02:27:01
think there's going to be. 02:27:06
Some flags and some other stuff, right? That's gonna be there for for for the low, low cost stuff? 02:27:10
Have to ask the marketing agent, marketing agent the cost of the hat and shirt. 02:27:16
OK. And the proceeds go to the nonprofit for the veterans? 02:27:25
OK, yeah, it didn't hurt that that was good that you put that in there because now everybody owns them. 02:27:29
To bring cash with them to eBay to donate? You bet. So. 02:27:36
And like I said, there's gonna be some other stuff there that's gonna be for sale, some little flags and and some other things as 02:27:40
well. 02:27:43
Um. 02:27:47
And other than now, the county summers work program ends this Friday. 02:27:48
This will be the end of it. 02:27:53
And I haven't heard anything bad about it, so I would assume everything went well this summer with the kids and. 02:27:55
And everything. And hopefully we can have even a bigger crew next year. That would be awesome. 02:28:01
I think 53 was our total this year, right? 02:28:07
Not counting the YC crew. 02:28:09
Yeah. 02:28:12
So that that's pretty good numbers and if we can beat that next year that would be better. 02:28:13
Hummer. 02:28:18
Yeah. 02:28:19
Sharpen that pencil. We need more money. 02:28:21
There you go. Alright. And then Thursday I have an NRCD meeting and that'll be at the butcher hook at 9:00. O'clock. Are you gonna 02:28:25
come by there for the NRC meeting or twin? 02:28:30
Thursday. 02:28:36
Thursday This Thursday. 02:28:37
OK. It's posted. OK. Thank you. 02:28:41
And then the next one of course will be in pacing up there next month, so. 02:28:43
And with that, that's all I had, did that. 02:28:49
Juggy either one of you for anything else. 02:28:52
No, Mr. Chair, just normal stuff. Meetings I had meeting and I still on Saturday meeting at. 02:28:56
Umm. 02:29:02
Roosevelt yesterday was on the radio yesterday. 02:29:04
Miami Town Hall. 02:29:09
Yesterday. 02:29:11
And so just just just normal meetings and other than that, everything's fine at the CAG meeting. 02:29:12
There was a representative there. 02:29:22
From our governor's office and so went over some stuff with Ella County on that. 02:29:24
Umm. 02:29:29
And so other than that, I'm good. 02:29:31
The deal Supervisor Christiansen. You're good going fine. I'll just call for ask for 5 minutes after this movie. 02:29:34
Oh, OK. I missed before we get into the work session, Ohh, you need a break is that you're saying, OK, we can do that. So anyway, 02:29:42
with that, that concludes our meeting for that and we'll take a 5 minute break and then come back for the work session and get it 02:29:49
over in about 3 minutes, maybe sooner than that because I don't see any. Ohh, there's Carl, you got 3 minute presentation, right? 02:29:56
22 Right on. OK. Well, thank you. We don't need 5 minutes, baby. I'll give you 5 minutes. We'll take a 5 minute break and it ain't 02:30:04
gonna go well. Guarantee. 02:30:09
Eight, I think it is. 02:30:16
Carl, Are you ready? 02:30:18
Yeah. 02:30:20
Yeah. We'll move on to a a information discussion seeking guidance, guidance. 02:30:21
To best allocate the funds from the conventionally. 02:30:26
Directed Earmark award of $609,000 to be used for maintaining water storage systems for wildfire protection. 02:30:29
In HeLa County with the understanding that this funding comes with a 1 to one match. 02:30:38
Of $609,000 for Hewlett County. 02:30:43
That can be in cash, in kind activities, or a combination of both. 02:30:46
For the period of March 22nd through September 25. 02:30:50
Welcome, Carl. Thank you. 02:30:54
Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Chairman and members of the board. 02:30:56
I'm really excited to be kind of on the home stretch of this project. 02:30:59
And also delight, Delighted to say that everything so far has come in much cheaper than expected. So just wanted to give you some 02:31:04
updates on this project. Once again, I'm honored to be taking this project as it was initially kicked off by the late, great Tommy 02:31:10
Martin. So I feel a sense of pride in being able to kind of pick up where she left off and keep this going. 02:31:15
Um, so I looked into. 02:31:22
The tank replacements spoke with our fire chiefs and they also have a Chief Morris on the line who will chime in towards the end 02:31:25
of of this item. 02:31:28
Um. 02:31:32
We've got the tanks specked out. They're going to be about. 02:31:33
Baseline 88 feet 6 inches wide by 12 foot 7 inches tall, four at each site. 02:31:37
Um. 02:31:45
Spec wise. 02:31:46
They ended up coming out to be 4. 02:31:49
The installation of the tanks, which is just going to be the contractors delivering the tanks. 02:31:52
Leveling the land laying little granite to avoid erosion. 02:31:57
Um, for the installation of 56 tanks, that's going to come out to be about $68,246. 02:32:01
Uh, the tank costs themselves for 56 tanks would be $397,000 or excuse me. 02:32:08
329,000 dollars 100 and. 02:32:15
65. 02:32:19
Uh so. 02:32:20
Total for 56 tanks $397,411.34 that is installation and the purchase of the tanks, everything. 02:32:22
There will be no aftermarket plumbing. The company is going to do that. That's providing the tanks. So that saves the warranty. So 02:32:32
there will be a five year warranty on these tanks. 02:32:36
If we decided to go a little further, I did provide a quote for 70 tanks which would give us 14 auxiliary tanks. These 14 02:32:42
auxiliary tanks could be used for. 02:32:48
Providing to our fire districts that have their own bladder sites to replace their bladders that could be used to create 02:32:55
additional sites. 02:32:59
Or even to offsets or increase capacity at any of the existing sites. So if we were to go forward with doing 70 tanks, so that's. 02:33:02
The cost of that would be the installation. 02:33:14
The 56 tanks to be deployed. 02:33:17
And the 14 auxiliary tanks to be available for the county's use at their discretion. 02:33:19
That total cost would be $479,675.20. 02:33:25
So I mean less than. 02:33:32
$100,000 difference for having the. 02:33:34
The 14 auxiliary tanks that are are used for our discretion. 02:33:37
So um. 02:33:41
Before I bring to you guys the final. 02:33:43
Final purchase I I'd like to get a consensus on which direction that we'd like to go. 02:33:45
Um, if you're interested in in, you know, making the most of the money and having the 14 tanks available for for use in the 02:33:51
future. 02:33:55
That option is there. Or if we'd like to go with the smaller option and get just what is necessary, that option is available for 02:34:00
you as well, and I will bring that to you at the next available meeting. 02:34:05
I have Chief Morris on the line. Chief, are you are you here? 02:34:11
Yes, I'm here. Can you hear me OK? Yeah, Yeah. You wanted to add some some thoughts. So our Chief more should go ahead. 02:34:16
OK. Thank you very much, Karen. Board of Supervisors, appreciate you letting me come on board here today. I'm over at a conference 02:34:23
here in Glendale for the Arizona Fire Chiefs and Arizona Fire District Association. So kind of miss out on a couple of the 02:34:30
presenting speakers today. Want to let you know that most of our area other than. 02:34:37
What is in Star Valley? 02:34:44
Is all what we call a tender operation, meaning that we only have readily available the water that's on our fire truck as we 02:34:46
respond to the scene. 02:34:51
Our captains have to make the determination. 02:34:56
If we need additional water to be able to be brought to the scene, and if we do that, then we have to request. 02:34:59
Via radio to have another entity respond with a tender with they'll have 2000 or 3000 gallons of water. It would be hubris or be 02:35:06
better for us. 02:35:13
If we were able to have a. 02:35:20
Source of water that like 10,000 gallons that would help us out to be able to battle a lot of these fires. 02:35:23
No. 02:35:30
Case in point. 02:35:31
Is you may have been aware of the. 02:35:33
Gasoline tanker fire that we had on Friday evening. 02:35:36
On 87 that closed down the highway for several hours. We had a hazmat assignment, we had a wildland fire, we had a vehicle fire 02:35:39
all at the same time and it basically took every resource that we had available in northern Heela County to be able to fight that 02:35:45
along with getting mutual aid. 02:35:52
Units from Prescott and other areas. 02:35:58
To be able to battle this fire, we were able to get tenders on scene, but it literally takes us about 45 minutes to an hour to be 02:36:01
able to get that there. 02:36:06
So it it would be nice I do have bladders in our area along with the other fire chiefs. 02:36:11
From other districts. 02:36:17
But these bladders, as you're very well aware of, are failing. 02:36:19
And I've had a couple of failures at this point that we have no replacement for them. 02:36:22
Thank you, Chief. 02:36:31
OK. 02:36:34
Ready for questions? Comments. 02:36:35
Always supervised Humphrey. 02:36:38
Yeah, I I I guess I don't have a lot of questions. I have comments and and yeah, I mean we we. 02:36:41
We have fire issues and we have rule. 02:36:48
Communities, we have rural areas. 02:36:52
And so that's what started all these bladders. So I I I think more tanks is is better. 02:36:55
And where they're placed, I think that would be something that we could get ahold of our fire chiefs. 02:37:01
And things of that nature to see where they might be best located. 02:37:08
Because, like Gazella, it has a little Volunteer Fire Department, but I mean, it's only got so much resource. 02:37:13
And so if say 4 service came to help. 02:37:20
Then force service would have an available water source. 02:37:24
To help them fight fires, even residential fires. 02:37:28
If they were to break out, then if that's all you have on your truck, you're you're pretty much done. 02:37:33
But you know, like Deer Creek Village. 02:37:39
You know Guy Silas, some of some of the small residential districts or or or communities that I have in my district. 02:37:42
You know, I I would like to maybe have an opportunity to help them. 02:37:52
With available water, even though they don't have a Volunteer Fire Department. 02:37:57
If the forest is threatened, Forest Service is gonna show up and it would be nice for them to have. 02:38:02
Available water for some of these residential areas, but even even the Ridge Belt Resort, the Estates and I, and I'm sure once we 02:38:07
start looking at this, if we have 14 extra tanks, that's not going to be enough. 02:38:15
Because everybody's got areas like this that that doesn't really have. 02:38:23
A major. 02:38:29
Amount of water to fight fires. 02:38:31
So like I said, with with the input perhaps probably from our fire chiefs. 02:38:34
Or even forcers to see where it might help. 02:38:40
Them and. 02:38:45
Some of this prevention. 02:38:47
If they had available water, so then we could maybe look and and. 02:38:49
See which would be the best. 02:38:55
Options of places to place some of these. 02:38:58
Ohh, thank you supervisor. I definitely appreciate the support there and. 02:39:02
There. 02:39:07
If the board would like me to come forward with me, possibly even a higher number of of auxiliary tanks extra. 02:39:08
I could do that. I'm sure the tank company would have no problem giving us a quote with a larger number on it. 02:39:15
But. 02:39:21
Just to give a kind of an example of how much room we have here. 02:39:22
With the the 70 tank purchase including the installation of the the 56 initially. 02:39:26
That puts us at $479,675 we have. 02:39:32
With a 50% match of course upwards of 1.18 million. 02:39:38
So we we have room. 02:39:44
So if that's something that we'd like to get, you know, maybe a stash of of tanks that the county could use at its discretion, 02:39:46
whether it be. 02:39:50
Creating sites, providing them to the fire districts to have more water on hand at their locations. 02:39:54
It it leaves us with options and not a a tight time frame if we purchase additional tanks for the county to own. Mr. Chair if I 02:40:00
may it like I said it would be. 02:40:05
I I think it would be good to have meetings. 02:40:11
Or a meeting? 02:40:14
With with the fire chiefs and force service and and see what what they felt. 02:40:15
Or or what? 02:40:21
The availability to them. 02:40:23
Where where would they, what would they feel? And then after that discussion, we would probably know more. 02:40:26
Of. 02:40:32
What tanks would be available and? 02:40:33
And if we're having them installed, I mean rather than sit at the boneyard. 02:40:36
For her eight, just in case. I, you know, I mean if if we're really going to use them, I would like to see. 02:40:41
Where we could strategically put them. 02:40:47
To. 02:40:50
To better. 02:40:51
Serve the communities. 02:40:53
That we represent. 02:40:55
And I think the people that fight fires in those. 02:40:57
Areas. 02:41:00
Would would probably be beneficial in in helping. 02:41:02
With firefighting and and like even the fires in Miami, the the available water is is is difficult in some of those Canyon areas. 02:41:06
Because the trucks run out of water and so I think the fire hydrants didn't provide enough so or couldn't get it up there, so they 02:41:16
had to put pumps. 02:41:21
Halfway up. 02:41:26
In order to get. 02:41:27
Of the water up there to fight fires, so. 02:41:29
You know. 02:41:32
Even the local fire departments of some of the towns, like they said the fire, you know that was a vehicle fire. 02:41:33
So I think that our fire departments, like, say the people would fight fires. 02:41:40
Would help us in in decide in making up. 02:41:46
A more conscious decision. 02:41:50
On money spent because we've already allowed. 02:41:52
Quite a bit of money. 02:41:55
And if we're getting a man for for less cost? 02:41:56
I would like to see some more placed. 02:42:01
In areas that they felt would be necessary. 02:42:03
Absolutely. And I have had a couple of meetings I think I spoke Chief Morris can expand to. I think I spoke with the Fire Chiefs 02:42:06
Association two or three times on this topic and. 02:42:11
The the sites that we have are are the essentials, but I think the general consensus among the fire chiefs was, you know, the more 02:42:17
the merrier. I don't think there's a Fire Chief out there that's gonna complain about having more capacity. 02:42:23
Um, so I can, I can speak with them again and see if there's some strategic areas that we can, we can add an addition. 02:42:29
And with these tanks causing little disturbance to the ground, if it's a pre-owned county property or fire districts property, I 02:42:37
don't believe this would require an environmental impact study because they are modular, they're basically just placed on the 02:42:41
ground so. 02:42:46
I. 02:42:51
Possibilities are endless here. And yeah, like bring that to maybe get with a with a with a. 02:42:52
Forest Service. 02:42:59
As as well. 02:43:00
You know, because like I say, some of the some of the communities could very if if there was a fire. 02:43:02
Forest Service could threaten communities and communities could threaten force or so. It wouldn't hurt to get their input on where 02:43:08
they would feel maybe it necessary or the need for available water source correct and I'll speak with them more Additionally but 02:43:15
they they are present at the fire chiefs association meeting so it's a one stop shop. We get all the input in in one meeting and 02:43:23
Chief Morris, I'm sure they would love to hear more about this and and provide more input. 02:43:30
Mr. Chair, thank you. 02:43:39
But we do have a slot open to us today. 02:43:42
At 4:30 for the heel of Cheeks to comment on. 02:43:45
Multiple things or quarterly meeting and if you don't mind I'll just kind of comment briefly on this that this is a work session 02:43:48
item to be able to discuss you know possibility of adding. 02:43:55
Additional 14 tanks. 02:44:02
To our. 02:44:04
Can't capacity of being able to deliver water to the site. 02:44:06
Thank you, Chief. 02:44:11
You out, Christiansen? 02:44:12
Yeah. Thank you, Chief. Thank you, Carl. So initially this whole project was to address 14. 02:44:14
Quick response helicopter type sites that we could use for our trucks as well. 02:44:20
But as you said earlier, the prices have come in and they're lower than what we expected. So let's dream big and go to 14 more and 02:44:26
in my opinion is not dreaming anywhere near big enough. So my thoughts would be. 02:44:35
We're buying stuff for $0.50 on the dollar right now. You even in the dream stages, committed HeLa County to $240,000 and we have 02:44:44
a cap of $609,000. Now. I'm not suggesting we go all the way. 02:44:51
But I'm suggesting that we purchase enough to make a consideration for. 02:44:58
All of the communities. 02:45:04
We we are already committing to 14 remote sites, let's start committing to. 02:45:06
Many more internal sites in our communities. 02:45:11
Around that we identify as important and that can be the rim country, young Gazella tonal basin, rye everywhere. So would a tanker 02:45:15
2IN rye have helped this fire on the highway? Yes so. 02:45:23
My if I were to say anything, it was like, you need to dream bigger than this. So that's what that I would support that. 02:45:33
Absolutely. Thank you. 02:45:41
Well. 02:45:45
So. 02:45:46
We'll never have enough tanks. I don't care what we do, right, You'll never have enough water. 02:45:48
On their own of tanks, you'll have some things to get used and some things that won't. 02:45:53
And on and on and on. 02:45:57
When the 14 sites were established, they were established for a reason. 02:45:59
And there's all strategically placed. 02:46:03
That's what it was. 02:46:06
When you ask the for service, and no disrespect, chief, but you ask anybody in fire. 02:46:07
There, you can't throw enough at them. 02:46:13
They're gonna want more and more and more. I get it. 02:46:16
And I and I get that that there's certain places if you have the right set up, you could save a lot. 02:46:19
You could save a lot of property, you could save a lot of homes, whatever. 02:46:25
Doubt. Guess where those places are. I have no idea how you do that. 02:46:29
The other thing of it is, is the Healer County has been the ones for the most part filling these tanks. 02:46:33
We only have so many people. 02:46:40
We only have so many trucks. 02:46:42
And So what I would like to see before we jump into something from up to our little eyebrows is that we put more thought into this 02:46:44
and we look at it not only from a strategic standpoint. 02:46:50
But also from a support standpoint of. 02:46:57
Hey, you know fire districts. You gonna help us support these or? Hey, Forest Service, where's your water tenders? We need you for 02:47:00
a month to help fill tanks. 02:47:04
You know, it's one thing and I'm totally for helping out. Don't get me wrong, I I hope that nobody does. 02:47:08
I want to help out everybody possible, but the Healer County cannot do it all. 02:47:14
That's what I announced to. 02:47:18
And when we we look at money. 02:47:20
One thing that we're looking at? 02:47:22
Money doesn't grow on trees and this is a 1 to one match. 02:47:24
Do we need to spend a million over $1,000,000 for? What if? 02:47:29
Scenario. 02:47:33
You know, so I think there's a lot to be said about this. I think we need to, really. 02:47:35
Get on with the 14 sites and get those fixed like when we started out to do. 02:47:40
And then we really need to step back and have the conversations on. 02:47:45
Tell me where some more areas are. You know, like Icela, do we need one right there or can you get to the Creek and suck water out 02:47:49
of the Creek right there in a matter of 5 minutes? 02:47:54
Or the lake, you know or or wherever it is, a Creek somewhere, you know, I know of some of these sites that are setting within. 02:47:59
3 minutes of of running water and so do we need to worry about that. There's a lot to it, not just a matter of throwing money at 02:48:08
it and sticking tanks everywhere and having manufacturers get really happy and so. 02:48:15
I think, I think we really do need to jump in there and get those sites taken care of that we started to take care of and we need 02:48:23
to have those conversations. 02:48:27
Is there more out there we could do or that we need to do, or we just want to spend money and do it anyway? 02:48:31
That's my $0.02 worth. 02:48:38
Thank you, Chairman. Just also to kind of address the maintenance comment. So that was considered because yeah, there was a lot of 02:48:41
demand of you know kind of topping off those, those water bladders because a lot of them had you know, significant leaks and you 02:48:47
can't repair the leaks on the bottom, you just can't and there's just a natural drainage out of those things, the scenes just I 02:48:52
mean they're they're. 02:48:58
Older tanks they've been. 02:49:04
You know, rode hard and put up wet. 02:49:06
Literally and these PVC tanks don't don't have the leaking issues, so right. And so Carl, with that in mind, where I wanted to 02:49:09
point out though is so many of these tanks are in the South 40 somewhere. 02:49:15
I can give you a location of a tank South of Pleasant Valley. That's about 40 minutes, probably 45 minutes. 02:49:23
One way with the nurse tanker. 02:49:29
And that's a 50,000 gallon tank and that trucks only holding 4000 gallons. 02:49:31
To do the math, that's that's just for one tank. 02:49:36
And that's what our people have been doing. 02:49:40
They had been making those trips and filling those up and 100% you're 100% right on the fact that we've been fighting those leaks. 02:49:42
So our folks have been throwing their heart and souls into this and in a 60 day period they go back and it's half flat because 02:49:48
they we've lost. 02:49:53
Water, which we want with these, which is a super good thing. 02:50:00
But when you take those kind of turnarounds to these locations and that's where these locations need to be. 02:50:03
They need to be there where there is no other options, where there is no other water. 02:50:09
And our people have covered that time and time again. 02:50:14
And it it it adds up to a lot of time where we have and when you look at pacing, I think we have two, maybe three people that work 02:50:18
on our Rd. department in Payson. 02:50:23
On a road trip. 02:50:27
That's all we have. 02:50:29
And so. 02:50:30
They're stretched thin, trying to fix Supervisor Christensen's road to keep the public off his tail. 02:50:32
And so forth, you know and we don't have that, that availability of time. 02:50:38
And I think that needs to be a real important part of all this conversation. 02:50:43
Absolutely. And I I truly believe that. 02:50:48
I mean either choice we make here is a positive for HeLa County. So that's that's great Ohh 100%. We'll bring in positivity like 02:50:52
that forward to you guys which is rare in my line of work. So but this, this should take some of that day-to-day labor away of of 02:50:58
maintenance and then also. 02:51:04
My goal is that when you know the Forest Service utilizes these tanks, they refill afterwards and that's that's the maintenance. 02:51:11
So that's my my long term goal with this project. That would be good and they have the ability to do that. 02:51:18
But you know, we're talking about a good month or little, little longer of us filling these tanks, the 14 sites that we have not 02:51:25
adding anymore. 02:51:30
But just the 14 sites? It takes a while, James. 02:51:35
Mr. Chairman. 02:51:39
Can I ask a question? You went through the size and capacity and a supervisor client pointed out there's. 02:51:40
From what I understand, there's some sites that have 10,000 gallons or some sites that have 20,000 gallons, 50,000 gallons. 02:51:46
Of course, 5 minutes South of Young. 02:51:53
What it What is of the Fort you're proposing for tanks? 02:51:56
At each site, what is the water capacity? 02:52:01
At each site going to be there. 02:52:04
So that'll put all of the sites at 20,000 gallons, which in talks with the Forest Service and the fire chiefs is about what's 02:52:06
adequate for those sites. 02:52:09
Um, so that will have them even 20,000 gallons across the board. The tanks are 5000 gallons apiece. 02:52:14
That makes them that that's the largest tank that you can go without having wide load transport and difficulty getting them up 02:52:22
into the forest. 02:52:25
So yeah, that'll put them on even 20,000 apiece. So some as Chairman if you have a site with 50,000 or these just. 02:52:29
They they they came from Desert Storm, so they are really old and. 02:52:37
Bladders using and Desert Storm. 02:52:41
Decades ago. 02:52:44
Or was there any rhyme or reason of why one side has 50,001 S 10 when I was 20? 02:52:46
50,000 or was there an established need? 02:52:51
At this one location we have 50,000, so we need to have more tanks than 20,000 gallons or no 20,000 gallons is a lot of water. You 02:52:56
know, you're not looking at at the only reason I tell you this, I did it for 20 years. 02:53:02
But 20,000 gallons is mainly in support of initial IT. 02:53:09
As far as four and if it goes beyond that 24 hour period, there's going to be a lot more resources rolling in. So 20,000 is good. 02:53:14
I think we ended up with a variation of these bladders because that's what they had. 02:53:20
And that's what we got. And so even though I think there's places they've tried to to put the bigger tanks, and I'll give you an 02:53:27
example is right there at the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat and the big metal, they had a 50,000 gallon tank sitting there. 02:53:34
But it was they were able to pump water into that and so they used it for a dip site, which was really cool. It worked out really 02:53:41
fine. 02:53:45
But these other areas are tainted. Blowout will all we have is this tank. We'll put that one there, you know, and and work it and 02:53:50
so. 02:53:53
Just because a 50,000 gallon tank would be sitting there a pillow tank doesn't mean that they would fill it plum to the 50,000. 02:53:58
But but there's a lot of different variations and I think with the 20,000 like Carl's been working on is a good number. I really 02:54:03
do. 02:54:07
Josh. 02:54:13
14 sites, because those were pretty universal across the fire chiefs and the Forest Service of what they felt they needed, 02:54:44
especially with Lake Roosevelt and as you said, other water sources. 02:54:49
The point was more to have those extra storage tanks now while we had the $0.50 on the dollar. 02:54:54
And if we see that there are sites that we are using more, the Forest Service uses more than we would have extra tanks to put 02:54:59
there. If there's sites that we don't use as much, we could even pull a tank from those sites. 02:55:04
The extra tanks is to support those 14 sites or the local fire chiefs and be able to go with that, not so much increase the 02:55:09
platform that we have because like you said, we're already having a lot of work to fill the tanks. 02:55:15
But to be able to start recording data and get the data that we've never had before and say, hey, that might be a site where the 02:55:21
Forest Service uses that a lot with what's going on in time or somewhere like fire last weekend maybe we learned that they needed 02:55:26
more and we would have those tanks on site. So that's really why we came with the 70 tank. The higher tank idea was again one was 02:55:32
the go big, go home. I think that the 490 whatever the the second quote, the higher one was what we're looking at and it wasn't to 02:55:37
set more sites because. 02:55:42
Mr. Chair, if I may, and and one of the reasons I brought up is, is to place maybe them just technically. 02:56:15
And add more tanks because my question was, is that the manufacturers going to do the installation and the plumbing for the five 02:56:23
year warranty, so if we have tanks just sitting? 02:56:29
What's the warranty? 02:56:35
If we decide to put them at a site a year and a half from now. 02:56:36
Is the company willing to come back with a tank that we've had in storage for two years? 02:56:42
Install it and give us a warranty. 02:56:47
Or is it going to be if we have the tanks? 02:56:50
Then if we want to put somewhere somewhere, then we're after an independent contractor with no warranty on the tank because it's 02:56:55
been in storage for two years that that that was just where I'm at. I mean if we were going to get them. 02:57:02
That's why I was thinking of maybe setting some while we got the warranty. 02:57:10
And the finances, because I wasn't sure if we just have them sitting there, what's going to be, like you say, if a site? 02:57:15
Is used and we need more water at a particular site. What is going to be our our warranty? 02:57:23
Um, once we're finished with our 14, that's. 02:57:31
Um, so supervisor, I think I can answer that I. 02:57:35
Asked every question I could think of when I came to the warranty. So the warranty. 02:57:38
We're getting the tanks installed by a third party contractor. It's not the same vendor that's providing them, it is the same 02:57:44
vendor that's providing them and plumbing them. 02:57:48
So they're going to come pre plumbed and basically the contractors are going to set them on the ground, they're going to fill 02:57:52
them. I forgot to mention that earlier too. Make sure to write that in the contract they will do the initial fill on the tanks. 02:57:57
Contractor will, yes. 02:58:03
Um, so that I forgot to mention that, I apologize. And as soon as you started talking about it, I wanted to throw that in there, 02:58:05
but. 02:58:08
So the warranty is basically from the time that we purchased the tanks for the next five years, regardless of whether they're 02:58:11
installed on a site, kept on locations, stored indoors outdoors, the warranty is good for five years. 02:58:18
So whether we have them in storage or not, it doesn't affect the warranty as long as we're not making modifications to the tanks 02:58:24
themselves. 02:58:28
And great. That's why I love work sessions, because all three of us come up with these different whirlwinds and. 02:58:33
Different ideas and things in it and it's great to be able to. 02:58:40
Share our thoughts with you, like I said, to dig into your brain a little more because now they're going to be filled and we still 02:58:44
got a warranty, so later when when it comes to us to make a decision. 02:58:51
After some of these work sessions and the information brought up and we could make a whole lot better decision. 02:58:57
With the with the information that we're able to share so. 02:59:03
A concern as much here as it was with the 14 sites and that that really was what they wanted. So we really have done an exhaustive 02:59:35
search with everybody in it. From my opinion, the offers or the the, the solutions he's come up with are are what the Forest 02:59:40
Service and the fire chiefs have really agreed on. 02:59:46
Correct. And you know I've I've done extensive research and Hester just about everyone of our fire chiefs and Forest Service 02:59:53
representatives and. 02:59:57
UM, and also chairman unit, the nail on the head. It is for initial attack, so 20,000 gallons of capacity buys you the time to get 03:00:01
an incident management team in place or to have your, you know, mutual aid come in. 03:00:08
Um, that that that's kind of bridging that gap and that's an important gap because now we've seen the initial attack is, is what 03:00:14
differs A7 acre fire from a 70,000 acre fire and obviously critically important because that right location where the tank is, 03:00:21
that's the one tank that is completely out of Commission. It's flat without tracks all over it. 03:00:28
And that's the closest tank to where that tanker fire took place, so. 03:00:36
Like I said, you know, I I support and we'll move in the direction of the board wants to go whether it's more or less. 03:00:40
Either way, it's a positive thing, so. 03:00:46
Happy to move forward on it. Yeah, I just think that the. 03:00:49
The 14 sites are definitely something. 03:00:53
We need to fix. 03:00:55
And then I have no problems with sitting and looking at other. 03:00:57
Areas, Options. 03:01:01
Whatever it is, you know, I I'm not against any of that. I'm just like. 03:01:03
Well, before we buy a whole whole semi load of tanks here, let's let's put put our thoughts together better and see so. 03:01:07
Yeah, Mr. Chair, I agree that it's like I said, the reason I was thinking of more is for warranty purposes rather than lack of 03:01:16
warranty purposes, so. 03:01:21
Yeah, the the 14 are are major. 03:01:26
And and and and very necessary. 03:01:28
And so once we. 03:01:31
Have a little more information, we can make better decisions. 03:01:33
Instruction. Yeah, let's see what James says. Ohh, good. Go ahead, James. 03:01:36
I I did have a question on on the funding for this. This is a congressionally directed spending it's we've had it for several 03:01:41
years. 03:01:45
And it appears that the money has been remitted to the Forest Service. 03:01:49
When we expend the dollars, then we will be reimbursed. If we spend the 500,000, we'll get a check for 250,000. 03:01:53
First comes out of the county, county. 03:02:01
Is there a reversion clause? Is this once we do this initial? 03:02:03
Spend on tanks, Is the money gonna go away? Is the money gonna be sitting there that we could get the 14 sites taken care of that? 03:02:08
Our immediate threats to the county. 03:02:18
And then we could do additional research and digging more and whatever or. 03:02:21
Once we do the 14 sites, the funding goes away and and we're done. 03:02:27
My understanding based on the reporting that Carl has to do with the United States Forest Service for the funds. 03:02:31
Would be we have the whole time frame, so even if we do something. 03:02:37
Through. 03:02:42
Do you remember the time before he might be in Michael? Three years. 03:02:43
From when? 03:02:48
From 2020 to 2K. 03:02:49
That's on the federal here I believe, so it would be. 03:02:54
September 2025. 03:02:57
Correct. And so yes, the the reporting requires us to put the amount spent in there, so. 03:02:59
We can, we can spend, come up with another idea later, add to it until that deadline. So if the board decides to go forward with 03:03:05
these 14 sites and then have discussion later and want to buy additional tanks, it does not have to be 1 purchase. We can we can 03:03:12
keep working on this project until the term is up. 03:03:18
From. 03:03:24
From a staff, staff perspective, perspective and if you want to. 03:03:26
Give me different direction. I would say that we. 03:03:30
Get whatever tanks we need to get them hooked up for the 14 sites. 4 tanks at each site. Take care of that. 03:03:32
And that we'll do some additional consideration. 03:03:39
Knowing that, we have a hard deadline of September 30, 2025 to do whatever we're going to do. 03:03:42
And not get any additional tanks at this point because. 03:03:48
Letting them sit, as you've pointed out to Roger Humphrey, that that's not good for. 03:03:51
Any type of tank. 03:03:56
That we can get additional tanks after we get the initial ones set up and running. 03:03:58
Steve, did you have something? Yeah, thanks Willie. And you had a lot of good comments about being able to take care of this whole 03:04:03
deal after we get it so. 03:04:07
Knowing that we have a time period, I think Mr. Manley's suggestion of let's get the 14 done. 03:04:12
Sooner rather than later is a good idea. We'll address further options later. So I would like to see you bring us options. Say, 03:04:18
well, we've worked with water wheel, we've worked with several of the health gate and all that and they they would like to have 03:04:25
one here or there and they're going to fill it. They're going to take care of everything. We're just going to provide a tank and 03:04:31
set it there for them or somebody's going to set it there for them where it's not an extra burden on the county. 03:04:38
Correct. Because I I believe that's exactly right. We can't be taking care of a whole bunch of tanks at the convenience of the 03:04:45
fire districts. 03:04:49
When they should be able to do that themselves. 03:04:53
Right. And the other thing is can can, anybody can. 03:04:56
Can we buy? 03:05:00
A water tender truck with this money. 03:05:01
And would that be useful? 03:05:05
We already own them. 03:05:06
We have enough. 03:05:08
Well, we just don't have enough drivers. Ohh understanding by yeah way that the congressional, by the way, the more one is it was 03:05:10
very specific to replacing the bladders. OK. Honestly even even new sites would be interesting because it was mentioned to update 03:05:18
the sites that we currently have. So it would be pushing the boundaries by the way it was written for the earmark. 03:05:25
OK. Thanks. 03:05:34
So I think my strategy going forward is going to be bringing to you guys the the replacement of the of the sites. 03:05:37
Going forward with that, getting it moving, talked with the contractor and he believes he can have it done within a week. 03:05:46
Which is all 14 sites. 03:05:52
Told me right on. So that seems pretty incredible and I'd be excited to see that because it would be, it'd be amazing. 03:05:55
But we can go forward with that and then I can go back to the fire chiefs and the Forest Service and talk strategy about, you 03:06:02
know, hey, let's. 03:06:05
Let's get a number of not. 03:06:09
Additional things to have on standby. 03:06:11
But more ideas of what to do with these tanks, whether it's, you know, increasing capacity or another thing to keep in mind is 03:06:13
there are sites that are owned privately by either fire districts or the Forest Service that are not ours that I don't think would 03:06:18
be outside of the scope to help to. 03:06:24
Supply those as well. 03:06:30
Um, So I'll come to you with a plan after the fact. So I'll come to you with a plan saying, you know, here's what additional tanks 03:06:31
that we could use as a county. 03:06:36
And where they would be used? Does that Does that work? 03:06:42
I think I think rather explore more obviously but. 03:06:47
You know, I I gotta be real truthful with you guys when when Supervisor Martin started this back queen quite a while back. 03:06:51
I was fairly high in the government, in fire management and quite honestly I thought she was crazy when she started it. 03:06:59
Because. 03:07:06
I don't know how many people understand this or know this, but when you're in fire management on the high side with a phone call, 03:07:07
you can have a village sitting there the next morning at daylight. 03:07:12
And as time went on and I seen what she had done and the placement. 03:07:18
And we started using those. She was right. She she did it. She put a good program together. 03:07:23
She did a really good job with it. 03:07:28
And so to be able to take that and. 03:07:30
Makes it where we need to be. 03:07:33
Today with it, that's that's a huge help. It really is and not only is those tanks. 03:07:35
Sitting there for the your engine crews and whatnot to pump into their dip sites for those helicopters. 03:07:41
Yes, we don't have. 03:07:49
Even very many dip sites across the face of the rim. 03:07:51
That's where she really scored on that. 03:07:55
And then a lot of people don't understand it, but on initial attack, that helicopter is the first thing off the pad. 03:07:58
And so having that availability. 03:08:04
Saves a lot. 03:08:08
An awful lot. And so she did a good thing. And I told her that later on. It's like you you got a good program started here. You 03:08:09
did good. 03:08:13
But. 03:08:17
I think being able to take those 14 sites, keep those going, look at some others, maybe down here wherever it's at. 03:08:18
You know, I I think that's all good. And you know, things change. 03:08:27
Fire seasons change, locations change, You know, the years change, whatever it is so they'll do. That is great and I think that 03:08:31
would be good for us as. 03:08:35
Or for me it is the board. I want to speak for us, but for me it's a part of the board. It would be good to see what other 03:08:39
alternatives are out there or other ideas. 03:08:43
Yeah, absolutely. And and to expand on that too, I mean the initial attack is probably more important now than ever because I mean 03:08:47
nowadays it's not uncommon to see two or 3000 acres of of growth on a wildfire in a 24 hour period. So getting that initial attack 03:08:54
is is critical now more than ever and this will have us. 03:09:00
Ahead of the curve as far as preparedness goes for wildfires. 03:09:08
And yes, now I will say to you, there's, there's other other rounds of this discussion. 03:09:12
Is that some of these starts? 03:09:18
Will turn into managed fires. 03:09:22
And and in in a in a real roundabout way of not getting real bogged down right now. Makes you wonder, well, why are we throwing 03:09:25
money at something that they're gonna expand anyway? 03:09:30
You know what I'm saying? 03:09:37
And so that should always be in the back of our mind too. And. 03:09:38
I we we just have to roll with something you know, but but I really like where Tommy put us as far as partnerships with the Forest 03:09:44
Service on a lot of this fire. 03:09:49
Fire suppression stuff and it said it's not good there and so we need to keep on. 03:09:54
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just one thing to you, you kind of got a little dancy when we were talking about sites and what the actual 03:09:59
grant was written for. 03:10:04
So we might look and and not get anywhere close to the boundary lines of what the grant was written for and stay well within those 03:10:09
lines before we waste a lot of time looking at additional things that probably would not fall under what the intention or the 03:10:16
purpose of the grant was written. 03:10:23
That that would that would probably be one of my first things to look at. 03:10:31
And then extras to replace some of the ones that may get damaged or something on a site would be possible, but additional sites 03:10:36
may not even be something to entertain. 03:10:41
Depending on how the grant. 03:10:48
Paperwork is written. 03:10:51
I'm done. 03:10:54
Mr. Chair, thank you. Anything you want to add? No, I think we've talked it out. Yeah, I'm good. Thanks. Right on. 03:10:55
OK. We're at 2 minutes, right? Yeah, you did till I spoke for two minutes. Yeah, you did good. So anyway, thank you for all that, 03:11:01
Carl. You've done a lot of work on it. Really appreciate it. Thank you. 03:11:06
And with that, I'm going to adjourn this meeting. 03:11:12
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 03:11:15
Yep. 03:11:22
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Testing. Testing. 00:00:07
Please. 00:00:30
History. 00:00:34
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Chip. 00:00:43
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Testing, Testing, 1-2, three. Can you hear me? 00:00:53
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Can you hear me? 00:01:04
But from testing 1-2 three. 00:01:07
Good morning, everyone. 00:01:32
We're going to get started here, pacing. Are you guys getting pacing? 00:01:35
Yep. 00:01:39
Thank you, Joseph. We're good here and Youtubes working this morning. 00:01:40
Right on so. 00:01:44
Thanks for being here this morning. It's Tuesday, July 11th. It's 10:00. O'clock straight up and we'll start this call to order 00:01:46
the Pledge of Allegiance. And Tim, you want to lead us in the pledge and then next going to lead us in the invocation? 00:01:53
I pledged. 00:02:01
Space. 00:02:05
Just, says one Nation. 00:02:08
Small. 00:02:12
That's this girl. 00:02:13
Thinking that the US is in this meeting of the side with respect to people. 00:02:22
Presentations on the escalator. 00:02:27
That will spread to the weapon then. 00:02:29
For me, the service bus. 00:02:31
So these things and then just cross them. 00:02:33
Thank you, Nick. 00:02:36
OK, going on to #2 presentations to a presentation of information by Arizona State Senator Wendy Rogers. 00:02:43
Regarding the Senate Concurrent Resolution 10:37 and also we have Sunny Borelli. 00:02:52
Dinner. 00:02:58
Good to see you guys and Mark Fincham here. So come on up Wendy and. 00:02:59
I'll let you get started. Or how do you want to do this? 00:03:03
OK, that that's cool. 00:03:08
Come on up, Sir. 00:03:11
He. 00:03:13
Retired Marine gunnery started, but this Colonel still has to supervise. 00:03:15
Thank you. 00:03:19
What do we do? 00:03:21
So there we go. 00:03:23
Test test near me. 00:03:25
Think so? We're good. 00:03:27
Emergency said. If you have static here so. 00:03:28
Thanks for having me, supervisors chair. 00:03:33
Umm. 00:03:36
Senate Concurrent Resolution 1037 was passed out of the Senate in the House and sent to the Secretary of State's office. 00:03:37
On the third of the May, excuse me, 3rd April. 00:03:43
Well, hang on, Senator, Are we good? 00:03:48
OK. 00:03:53
So. 00:03:54
Test test. 00:03:57
Test test. 00:04:07
That's better, Sam. Maybe that worked. Ask you the shot. Go ahead. Yes. Thank you once again. 00:04:09
You know, we we passed the Senate concurrent resolution and send it to Secretary of State's office. 00:04:16
And we know we ran a bill to actually. 00:04:20
Put more restrictions and requirements. 00:04:24
On electronic voting systems because. 00:04:28
We are finding out through when we did the Senate audit and throughout other investigations nationwide, we were finding that there 00:04:30
was components that are made in that are with these machines. 00:04:36
Or electronic systems. 00:04:42
That are made from countries that don't want to do us harm. 00:04:44
So we tried to put some heavy standards on it, DoD cybersecurity standards, just in standards that we use for our weapon systems. 00:04:46
However, unfortunately, the governor vetoed that bill. But so but it's on the Senate concurrent resolution. 00:04:53
Still applies. 00:04:59
I sent all Let Go letter back in on May 22nd. 00:05:01
Of course the other side, the opposition says that the. 00:05:06
The letter. 00:05:10
One senator does not have the authority to dictate anything, and they're absolutely right. One senator doesn't. But that was just 00:05:11
to alert you all about the Senate Concurrent resolution. 00:05:15
And when it basically if you I'm sure you all read it. 00:05:19
The resolution itself. 00:05:22
But it highlights and there are facts and evidence that we found over the last three years. 00:05:24
In other States and even the things that we know here in Arizona. 00:05:29
That. 00:05:33
Well. 00:05:35
Reclaiming our plenary authority. 00:05:35
Over federal elections, because that's where we fit in the US Constitution. 00:05:38
Now under time, place and manner. 00:05:42
Now the arguments will be. 00:05:44
That the Senate Concurrent resolution does not have the weight of law. I beg to differ US Constitution. 00:05:47
It is the law of the land. 00:05:53
And of course they said well, it needs the Secretary of State's office had said well. 00:05:55
This doesn't affect because they need the governor's signature. 00:05:59
I disagree with that because in the US Constitution it doesn't say. 00:06:03
You know, time, place and manner prescribed the legislature and the governor or the executive. 00:06:08
Doesn't say that it says the legislature shall. 00:06:12
Prescribed time, place and manner and electronic voting systems being manner. 00:06:15
We're saying that please don't use them because they don't comply. 00:06:19
With cyber security standards that that is necessary. 00:06:23
Because technically. 00:06:27
Even if you wanted to do a post election audit. 00:06:29
You're prohibited to do so. 00:06:32
And I will prove that by saying look at Cochise County. 00:06:34
Coaches County wanted to do a 100% hand count of all their precincts. 00:06:37
In the 22 election, and the Secretary of State's office interfered and tried to intimidate the board. The board wasn't going to be 00:06:42
intimidated. 00:06:46
They voted to move forward to do a 100% hand count of all their precincts. 00:06:50
Of course there is a manner that they have to do. They have to do by law, certain races. 00:06:54
Or they wanted to do that. So once they did that. 00:06:58
And voted to go forward. 00:07:01
Mark Elias got with a a nonprofit or retires E group and a couple of Democrats, either plaintiffs. 00:07:02
Is so two coaches county to prevent them? 00:07:10
From being able to do. 00:07:13
They're prescribed duties to make sure that the elections are done properly and fair and if things are secure. 00:07:15
Well, why did Mark Elias care about Lindo Cochise County? 00:07:23
Because the statute says. 00:07:26
The Secretary of State shall provide the source code to a special master that shall be appointed by the court. 00:07:29
And those findings shall be made public to the court. 00:07:34
And to the Secretary of State's office. 00:07:38
So they tied coaches, county and litigation long enough to run the clock out to on the day they have to certify the election. 00:07:40
And. 00:07:47
And if they didn't certify the election on that deadline, they were threatened. 00:07:48
And intimidated. 00:07:51
With a felony. 00:07:52
Once again. 00:07:54
Use elected officials. 00:07:56
Are actually being prohibited from following through and doing your. 00:07:58
Your your due diligence and your duty to make sure that when you sign that certification. 00:08:02
And everything is true, fair. Obviously, under penalty perjury, everything is accurate. 00:08:07
Coaches County uses 2 systems the mail in ballots of your paper ballot, but they use the SNS systems. This is not about just the 00:08:14
Dominion. 00:08:17
It's also about ES and S. 00:08:20
Yes, and their system they use in Cochise counties that touch screen. 00:08:22
Well, you as the voter, you want to make sure that what goes in the system. 00:08:26
Is the way you voted. 00:08:31
But you cannot. 00:08:33
Because the third party vendor literally has autonomy. 00:08:34
And. 00:08:38
Immunity. 00:08:40
From any type of vote oversight meaning once again. 00:08:41
They got sued by Mark Elias, the Democrat, their attorney. 00:08:44
To block that type of oversight. 00:08:48
This is tax dollars paying for equipment that has no oversight and that that should just. 00:08:52
Make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up anyway. 00:08:57
But. 00:08:59
Without any kind of government oversight. 00:09:01
That the citizens are entitled to. 00:09:03
Is a travesty. 00:09:05
We vote in public. 00:09:08
Absolutely vote in private. 00:09:11
But we count in public. 00:09:12
This is about transparency. So what we're asking is a 100% hand count of all paper ballots being done by by the people under the 00:09:15
supervision obviously, of your election director. 00:09:21
And it can be done. It's not impossible. 00:09:26
The opposite side will say that the law doesn't allow for a hand count. 00:09:29
And of course, I argued this with a couple of the county attorneys already. I said show me a statute or the machines are mandatory 00:09:34
to be used. 00:09:38
They're not. 00:09:42
It's not mandated by law to be used as a primary source. 00:09:43
It's you. It's an option. 00:09:46
So if it's, you cannot use a machine. 00:09:49
Hello. 00:09:52
If you're not mandatory, then how else would you count the ballots? 00:09:53
You would do it by hand. 00:09:57
They said there's nothing in statute that permits a hand count. 00:09:58
So, well, show me the statute where it prohibits it doesn't. 00:10:02
If you if you're not mandatory to use machines, mandate to use machines. 00:10:06
Obviously you can do it the old fashioned way of counting ballots one at a time now. 00:10:10
The opposition is going to say it's going to take too long. 00:10:15
To do this well, we have 30 days of voting. 00:10:18
Mail in ballots because it's sent out 30 days prior to the election. 00:10:22
And they start coming in. 00:10:25
So you have the ability to start tallying the votes. 00:10:27
14 days prior to the election. 00:10:31
I know in my county, Mojave County, 80% of the ballots that come in are all from early ballots from either from the mail in or in 00:10:33
person at the County Library and so they can be done. 00:10:38
In a timely manner and therefore we can, you can. 00:10:44
Put all your effort into get Election Day voting and and. 00:10:47
With consolidation of personnel. 00:10:51
So it's just nothing more than pure logistics to make this happen. 00:10:53
Once again, you're not mandated to use these machines. 00:10:56
They are. There's so much evidence that these things can be. There's no. 00:10:59
Faith in them and if you don't have. 00:11:04
The ability of transparency, of looking into a black box. 00:11:07
Uh, we're actually that's photo suppression in itself. 00:11:12
So the citizens want to make sure that their ballots are being counted as cast. 00:11:16
And I think the best way to do that is going back to hand count paper ballot. I'm open for questions. 00:11:20
Thank you, Senator. This could provide your Humphrey. 00:11:27
I I have no questions right now. Mr. Chair, Supervisor Christensen. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Senator Borrelli. I appreciate 00:11:34
your presentation so. 00:11:38
You're you're advocating for a mandatory hand count. Can you tell me? 00:11:43
Do you know how accurate that will be? It's there could be human error. 00:11:51
So can you tell me is there any statistics that show how accurate a hand count is? 00:11:57
Thank you, Mr. Chair Out. You know, that's gonna depend on the volunteers and the supervisors. 00:12:03
The Election Assistance Commissions. 00:12:09
It actually says that there's a margin of of error. 00:12:11
In electronic voting systems, that's acceptable. 00:12:14
Is it 0 point? 00:12:17
Zero 2%. 00:12:19
Not a three million, I mean do the math on that. 00:12:21
I mean, there's a margin of victory. We've had races one and lost with one ballot, one vote. I mean, Andy Biggs won his recount 00:12:24
with 19 votes. 00:12:28
But. 00:12:34
Nothing is going to be perfect. 00:12:36
But it can be done. It's not logistically impossible. 00:12:39
There's several methods of doing it I prescribe. 00:12:43
I team of five people. 00:12:46
Counting one race at a time. 00:12:48
And you do an assembly line count, a stack of ballots. 100 ballots counting. One race, three people counting. 00:12:50
Two people marking and observing. 00:12:57
And then you do that stack, you hand it on over to the others. So you get, let's say, for the presidential race and the next one 00:12:58
will be the US Senate race and then congressional race, so on and so forth. You could do this with a team of five people. There's 00:13:05
other methods in Texas that have been doing it with less and it's been taking them, you know, a few hours just to do. 00:13:11
Yeah. 00:13:18
3-4 hundred votes ballots, and that's an entire ballot. 00:13:19
Not just one at a time, but. 00:13:22
It's gonna be done in small counties like like ours or yours. I got Applause County, too. Small county. Yeah. Roughly less than 00:13:24
25,000 votes last year. 00:13:29
In the election and that can be done in 14 days. 00:13:33
What, 5 hours a day with a team of folks Feel folks. 00:13:38
And I'm sure the county chairs will. 00:13:41
Ohh. 00:13:43
The parties will step up and provide those volunteers, and you'd be surprised how many people are lining up. 00:13:44
Signing up to Want to be able to? 00:13:49
Count. 00:13:52
Really complains. I don't. I don't want. I don't have any trust in faith and confidence in these electronic voting systems. So 00:13:53
therefore I have no idea if my my ballot, my vote counted. 00:13:58
Well, I believe if you go to a hand count, paper ballot. 00:14:04
And the citizens are actually doing the. 00:14:07
Count. 00:14:10
Then they can rest assured that, hey, your ballot didn't count. I know which one it was in a big stack, but we physically counted 00:14:12
every one of them. 00:14:15
Uh. 00:14:19
You know the opposition is going to come up with all kinds of roadblocks, but. 00:14:20
You know there's a bulldozer we can, but we can plow through. 00:14:24
Well, I am an advocate for voter integrity, absolutely. And so we just need to debate what the solutions to that are and this is 1 00:14:27
possible solution. 00:14:32
And etcetera. So one last question for me and that would be how does the county? 00:14:37
Recorder come into this discussion. 00:14:44
Will County report? Thank you Mr. Chair, the county recorder. Once that's all the signatures coming in, we'll make sure that the 00:14:47
signature verification is completed. 00:14:51
But that's where your county reporter would come into play to make sure that things are being done right. And they're they're 00:15:23
elected officials. I mean, the elections don't belong to us elected folks. 00:15:28
Elections belong to the people, right? 00:15:34
Thank you, Senator. 00:15:36
Senator, thank you. Thank you all today. Good information and. 00:15:38
And then? 00:15:43
Definitely to take in consideration. Senator Rogers, you have some you want to add. 00:15:45
Mr. Chair members, I'm your senator. Senator Wendy Rogers from Flagstaff. I cover Coconino, Navajo, Olive Hilla and a big part of 00:15:56
Pinal County. 00:16:01
I want to speak to the wholeness of you as a county. 00:16:09
You're one of 15 counties. 00:16:13
In Arizona, we're unique because we have so few counties really. And so each county is very, very important even though. 00:16:16
Heeler County is small. Mojave County is small. 00:16:25
But the United States Constitution, as my colleague just reemphasized, endowed the state legislature. 00:16:28
With the plenary, which means absolute authority. 00:16:37
To determine time manner in place of Federal. 00:16:40
Elections. 00:16:44
And we take that very, very seriously. It's up to the county. 00:16:45
To implement the election. 00:16:51
So you may think, well, you know, we're a small county, we're rural, but you're fundamentally important. 00:16:53
Because the United States, the other 49 states. 00:17:00
Are looking right now. 00:17:04
To Arizona. 00:17:05
To lead. 00:17:07
And we're in this. 00:17:08
Unique. 00:17:10
We're at this unique inflection point in history. 00:17:12
So what you have right now on the border is an invasion. 00:17:16
What we now have seen in theaters nationwide. 00:17:21
As a child. 00:17:25
Sex trafficking epidemic? 00:17:27
What we have is an economy that is under siege. 00:17:30
And many other ills. 00:17:35
That have befallen our state. 00:17:37
Because elections have consequences. 00:17:40
And stolen elections have dire consequences. And we're facing this right now. And you say to me, well, you know, we have 180,000 00:17:44
people here in Heela County. What can we do? 00:17:49
You can lead. 00:17:56
Maricopa County. 00:17:58
There's not a county that Senator Borrelli or I represent, but they have 65% of Arizonans in it. 00:18:00
And that is tilting the scales. 00:18:10
And that is where we are today because of Maricopa County and the fraud and corruption. 00:18:12
Senator Borrelli and I have seen on full display in the Elections Committee at the Arizona Senate. 00:18:19
We've got the receipts. 00:18:25
And so where do we fit in as small rural counties as your senators? 00:18:28
This is where we step forward. This is where we are at the pointiest tip of the sword. 00:18:33
This is where we other counties. 00:18:40
In Arizona, say we're going to lead. 00:18:43
By example. 00:18:47
And we're going to follow this Senate Concurrent Resolution 1037 and you say to me. 00:18:49
Where did you come up with that? 00:18:55
It's a subtle nuance that the. 00:18:57
The forefathers, our founding fathers of Arizona, put into the state constitution, thank goodness, over 100 years ago. 00:19:00
It did not require the rubber stamp of the governor. 00:19:07
It got transmitted to the Secretary of State to implement. 00:19:12
And it's 5 pages of detail. 00:19:17
Of the fact that in 2017. 00:19:20
The United States government? The DoD. 00:19:23
Said that election machinery is considered critical infrastructure. 00:19:27
And as such is subject to security requirements ad nauseam. One of which is it can't be connected to the Internet. It can't be. 00:19:34
Invaded, so to speak, by a nefarious actor adverse to the US government. All those things are proscribed in these 5 pages. 00:19:44
That election machinery must adhere to. 00:19:52
It's nylon to impossible for that to happen. 00:19:57
To have the parts made in the US and to have everything the way it should be. 00:20:00
So that's why we're talking about. 00:20:06
Paper ballots. 00:20:09
For the federal. 00:20:11
Ballot. 00:20:14
We tried, as my colleagues said, to get that passed for the state ballot. That had to be a bill that the governor would sign, 00:20:15
which was vetoed. But we, the state legislature and you as the implementers. 00:20:22
Still have control. 00:20:28
Over the federal ballot. 00:20:31
And the state. 00:20:34
So you can do the complete right thing if you want. 00:20:35
And conglomerate to two. 00:20:40
Which we would highly advocate. 00:20:42
And have that be. 00:20:45
Paper. 00:20:46
And Representative Mark Fincham behind me can speak to the actual ability to do that. 00:20:49
Paper. 00:20:55
Don't let the side opposite tell you it's gonna cost too much. 00:20:56
Don't let this and by the way. 00:21:00
As Senator Borrelli will tell you. 00:21:02
It's been paid for. 00:21:06
It's been paid for by 250 years of blood and treasure spilled for the freedom of this country, which is. 00:21:09
Slipping through our fingertips. 00:21:16
If we don't lead as the state of Arizona and we don't lead as individual counties, we're going to miss. 00:21:18
An opportunity. 00:21:24
To right the ship of state back on track. So don't let anybody tell you like the Secretary of State that you don't have legal 00:21:26
authority to do this. They will intimidate you. 00:21:31
And they will try to talk you out of this. 00:21:37
But this is your chance right now to do right. 00:21:41
And you have our fullest support. 00:21:45
And who knew over 100 years ago? 00:21:49
That the founders of Arizona. 00:21:51
Would put this capability this Senate Concurrent resolution. 00:21:53
Fat. 00:22:00
And and ability into our state constitution for such. 00:22:00
A time as this. 00:22:05
Where it will figure so pivotally. 00:22:07
And prominently. 00:22:10
And saving our state. 00:22:12
And our country and I, I go on these national interviews a lot and they go Rogers. 00:22:13
What about the other 49 States and I say they should do this? 00:22:18
And they are Shasta County in California. 00:22:24
You're Balding County in Texas. 00:22:29
What's the other one in Georgia? 00:22:33
Spalding County in Georgia and seven other counties in Georgia. 00:22:34
And growing. 00:22:40
By that day. 00:22:41
This is where counties can lead. 00:22:44
And we need to partner with you to get this going. We've already presented to Mojave County. 00:22:48
Which is Senator Borrelli. 00:22:54
They are moving forward. 00:22:56
Senator Borrelli and I are going to present to Navajo County. 00:22:59
And to Pinal County after this. 00:23:03
This is gaining. 00:23:06
Steam. 00:23:07
Why? Because we see what's happening in our state. We see the consequences. 00:23:09
Of what will happen if we don't? 00:23:15
Reclaim our plenary power to correct. 00:23:18
Elections. I stand for questions. 00:23:22
Thank you, Senator. 00:23:26
Supervisor Humphrey anything? 00:23:28
Mr. Chair, I have no questions. Supervisor Christensen. 00:23:31
Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Senator. Colonel. 00:23:35
Rogers understand completely. So I have no question for you though. Thank you. 00:23:38
So. 00:23:44
So Senators, I have a question for you guys, like going forward in the future. 00:23:46
What can we expect to see through any kind of legislation in the state? Are you guys thinking about putting any other bills or 00:23:51
anything to back this up or push it or or what? How, what are you thinking about there Mr. Chair Members, this is a standalone. 00:23:59
Resolute document in and of its own strength, it already has passed the House and the Senate. It is a pillar. 00:24:07
It is a rock of truth and implementability, yes, and I understand that. But I was just asking in addition, as I guess I should 00:24:16
clarify. But Senator Borrelli, you have something there. 00:24:22
Yes, Sir. Thank you, Mr. Chair. 00:24:28
You know, it's kind of interesting, but uh. 00:24:32
Like I said. 00:24:35
The bill that I I, I ran. 00:24:36
Would have put several security standards on it. The source codes would have been. 00:24:38
Held in escrow with the Auditor General, not the Secretary of State, to take the politics out of it. 00:24:42
Senator Rogers ran a bill for critical infrastructure. 00:24:49
It got better. 00:24:52
Critical infrastructure. 00:24:56
Got better? 00:24:58
However. 00:24:59
Governor Hobbs does an executive order to ban TikTok. 00:25:00
On government equipment. 00:25:04
But she vetoes a bill for critical infrastructure cybersecurity standards on all government equipment. 00:25:06
Everything so going forward. 00:25:15
We're gonna keep banging on that door until she rises up and starts doing things to protect Arizona and put the partisanship 00:25:17
aside. 00:25:21
Now. 00:25:25
We'll just roll back the clock little bit. 00:25:27
This is not about. 00:25:29
Biden and Trump. 00:25:31
It's not about Hobbs. 00:25:32
And and late. 00:25:34
This goes back to. 00:25:36
Right after the. 00:25:38
The 2016 election. 00:25:40
Secretary of Homeland Security said in 2017 that elections are part of critical infrastructure. 00:25:42
The US Senate held hearings back in 2019. 00:25:48
About electronic voting systems when they had a man named Clinton Curtis come and testify before the Senate. 00:25:52
How electronic voting systems can be hacked, How they're hacked, how they're already pre programmed and said you'll never find it 00:25:58
because the results are going to always come out 5149. 00:26:02
And the only way to find that out is to actually do a hand count. 00:26:07
Like I said, trying to do a hand count, that's where the interference comes in on the post election. 00:26:11
Camilla Harris, Senator Harris was even on the record stating. 00:26:18
In that committee hearing. 00:26:22
Now her staff witnessed. 00:26:24
The electronic voting systems being hacked right before her very eyes were from a cell phone. 00:26:27
The man who testified Clinton Curtis. He's the one who wrote the programs to make sure that the outcomes would come out a certain 00:26:33
way. 00:26:36
Now. 00:26:40
Is he Republican? No, he's a registered Democrat. 00:26:42
He testified in front of Senator Rogers Committee. 00:26:45
So the answer to your question is, Sir, yes, we're going to keep pushing bills. 00:26:48
To. 00:26:52
Tighten up what? Our elections, because that's our first priority. Let's don't belong to us. 00:26:53
It belonged to the people. They're entitled. 00:26:58
To that. 00:27:01
Transparency. 00:27:02
So the answer your question Sir, no more politician problem like no, that's good. No and I agree with you on that. So. So today 00:27:03
you got, you've presented to your your county there Molly and today you're presenting to us are are we the only two counties so 00:27:08
far that you presented this to or is there other ones. Thank you Sir. No, I've had preliminary meetings with other counties so you 00:27:14
know their vice chairs and and and we're trying to work through so that way they can get on we can get on their agenda because a 00:27:19
lot of this is new. 00:27:25
To them and. 00:27:31
Of course the opposition from you, from the Secretary of State's office is the one all kinds of roadblocks in a way which is kind 00:27:32
of ironic that the. 00:27:36
You know, he he he's a lawyer and he knows the US Constitution. 00:27:40
So. So he thinks Sense though but. 00:27:44
Not to disparage her. 00:27:47
Secretary of State but. 00:27:48
You know, it's just amazing that. 00:27:50
The opposition doesn't want to have transparency. 00:27:52
That that's what's the most telling thing of it is they don't want to have any transparency like I said. 00:27:55
You're not mandated using machines. 00:27:59
It's literally a black box that you're not allowed to look into. 00:28:02
As elected official and a taxpayers are paying for this equipment. 00:28:05
No. 00:28:09
Well Senators, I really thank you for taking your time out of your busy schedules. I know you're you're swamped and. 00:28:10
And for coming up here and visiting with us this morning and and going from there, James, did you have a question or comment? 00:28:16
What when we're done with those questions? 00:28:21
Ohh OK well, I I think I've asked mine so far. So and I've got the Halderman report. Alex Halderman was caught. He's a professor 00:28:24
at Wisconsin and Michigan or something like that. Yeah, in Michigan he he was, he was commissioned by the Democrats to do a report 00:28:30
on electronic voting systems. 00:28:35
This is. 00:28:42
Prior to 2020. 00:28:43
And of course, the report came out. He named Arizona. 00:28:44
Is one of the 16 states that's vulnerable before the 2020 election. 00:28:48
Well, a federal judge in Georgia. 00:28:51
Sealed. 00:28:54
Now report. 00:28:55
And it wasn't till just a month ago, less than a month ago, we found that judge unsealed it. So we have a a redacted part that 00:28:56
that we will send to you that highlights this EAC, Election Assistance Commission and CISA. 00:29:03
The cyber security folks, they're the ones that examined the machines that Dominion, ESS, and. 00:29:10
In Williamson, Tennessee. 00:29:17
And that's highlighted in the example. 00:29:20
In the SER. 00:29:22
Where they had found an anomaly. 00:29:23
Uh. 00:29:25
An erroneous code that nobody knows how I got on there. 00:29:26
Well then the manufacturer says what's OK, we fix it. 00:29:29
Really. How do we know you fixed it? 00:29:32
Well. 00:29:35
The secretary states have the source code, so we're not going to be able to see. 00:29:35
Because they won't give it to us. 00:29:38
When we were doing this Senate audit, we tried to get the source code from the Senate, from the Secretary of State, Katie Hobbs. 00:29:40
She refused to give it to us. 00:29:43
We subpoenaed Dominion. They refused to give it to us because they're a private company. 00:29:47
And his priority and we don't have any authority over private companies, so. 00:29:51
Obviously you can see that there's no transparency. 00:29:56
At all. 00:29:59
And to try to make sure that there's any kind of oversight that protects. 00:30:00
The citizens what they're entitled to. 00:30:03
And extreme fear relations. Thank you, Senator James, Mr. Chair, members of the board. I just wanted to express appreciation to 00:30:06
Mr. Mariscal, our Elections Director, and his team. 00:30:11
Based on the the controls that we have, policies and procedures, checks and balances that have been implemented in HeLa County. 00:30:17
That I know that. 00:30:26
Through the Elections Department, we can provide assurance. 00:30:29
That the elections for 20/20/22. 00:30:32
That the results were truthful and accurate. 00:30:35
And that the population, the voters of community county can have that assurance. 00:30:39
That we do everything within our power and possibility. 00:30:45
Checking. 00:30:48
What we do before the election and after to make sure that the the accuracy of the counts. 00:30:49
So I express appreciation to Mr. Moscow and his team. 00:30:55
And all the many volunteers that come and support the elect. 00:30:58
A truthful and accurate election in Heela County. 00:31:02
So. 00:31:05
Senators as as a small county, because we are less than 55,000, we take voting integrity very seriously, just like SEND, 00:31:06
Supervisor Christensen said. 00:31:11
And we have questions coming at us from all angles as you well know as as do yourselves. So this is something that we do stay on 00:31:17
top of and. 00:31:21
And with our elections department and with the recorder and the folks that we have in our small group. 00:31:26
It's a constant topic of discussion. 00:31:32
So. 00:31:35
Yes, Mayor. Yeah, absolutely. Well, thank you. Thank you, Sir, for that. And by the way, this is by way no indictment against your 00:31:36
elections personnel. 00:31:41
It's not. 00:31:46
Because they're very dedicated individuals, we know that they want to make sure things are done right, but I don't think they 00:31:47
fully, fully grasp the understanding of it. 00:31:51
When you're voting by paper ballot. 00:31:55
OK. And you're running it through tabulators? 00:31:58
You really don't know. 00:32:01
If the outcome is literally true. 00:32:03
Now you do a sample afterwards. 00:32:05
That you can say 2% and 5%. 00:32:08
Well, that doesn't give you the bigger picture because the system has been designed. 00:32:11
Clinton Curtis testified from the US Senate. 00:32:15
Saying and in front of our our committee that. 00:32:18
You're not going to find it in that way because the the outcome is going to be 5149 on obviously certain races that wanna be. 00:32:21
Manipulated. 00:32:29
And because you can't look into the system itself and you don't want to do that as opposed to election on it. Now let's say we do 00:32:33
a logic and accuracy test. We do all these testing prior to, which sounds good. 00:32:39
But it means that when you do a logic and accuracy test, you're actually certifying the equipment is operating properly at the 00:32:45
time of inspection. 00:32:49
But once the system is going on with the electronic voting systems, we're talking about a computer. 00:32:53
But nobody's. Nobody's in here to a data guy. Unless you got the source codes to see if anything got changed, you don't have that 00:32:58
ability. 00:33:02
That's that's the real issue there. 00:33:07
So I mean I'm, I'm convinced that your country is you know this cleans the, you know, hounds tooth but. 00:33:09
The systems can be corrupted. 00:33:16
And we need to take a stand and stop giving. 00:33:19
Your authority over to a third party vendor. 00:33:23
And it's complete autonomy and. 00:33:27
Community because they're protected. Because they're a third party and they're not subject to a Fourier request for public 00:33:30
information request. 00:33:34
Senator Rogers, And if I could just piggyback on that. 00:33:38
We don't know what we don't know. 00:33:43
And I know that sounds simplistic. 00:33:47
But as Senator Borrelli said, unless we can look into the machine, real time when votes are being cast on a continuous basis. 00:33:50
We don't know what we don't know. 00:34:01
And also. 00:34:04
You're right, we just have a small county here, but because you are an entity, one of 15, you are more powerful. 00:34:06
Than the number of voters you represent. 00:34:16
You are one of 15. 00:34:20
Very important entities in this state and hence this country. 00:34:22
So you are sort of. 00:34:28
The mouse that roars. 00:34:30
And. 00:34:32
I'd like to call up a representative, Mark Fincham, who is a subject matter expert. 00:34:33
To speak to the implementability. 00:34:40
And to the corruptibility on these two sort of mechanical. 00:34:43
Aspects. 00:34:49
Mark Chairman. Or have you just state your name and where you're from? Yes Sir. 00:34:55
Now from Phoenix, formerly from Tucson and the Republican nominee for Secretary of State in 2022. Served in the Arizona House of 00:35:01
Representatives for eight years. 00:35:06
There's a couple of things that I've heard here and I'm I'm gonna ask you to set aside for just a moment the idea of inspecting 00:35:11
the code. 00:35:14
The question is, do you know? 00:35:19
And I already know the answer. 00:35:23
That the number that the machine gave. 00:35:24
Matches the number of votes in paper ballots. 00:35:28
As for every vote that comes to that machine, no, I mean, we don't. We we take, we take the sample, the samples and test those 00:35:32
like we've talked about, but ask for every vote. No, that's exactly my point. You don't know. 00:35:39
There is no transparency in the machine system. That's one of the reasons why myself and governor. 00:35:46
Gubernatorial candidate Terry Lake. 00:35:54
Are at this moment in front of the 9th Circuit Court. 00:35:57
Challenging the use. 00:36:00
Of black box ballot tabulation equipment. 00:36:02
Black box being a term of art in the legal world. 00:36:05
You can't see inside of it. 00:36:08
Now I'm going to tell you something that is not widely known that in the Raphael Warnock election, you may have heard of that in 00:36:11
Georgia. 00:36:14
17 pallets of ballots were printed by Runbeck. 00:36:19
And shipped to Georgia. 00:36:23
Paid for by Dominion Voting Systems. 00:36:27
Why did they have to have paper ballots shipped to Georgia for a specific election? 00:36:31
If the election tabulation equipment were trustworthy. 00:36:38
I'll tell you why. 00:36:42
We had to have a match on the number of paper ballots. 00:36:44
So the number of ballots counted in machines. 00:36:48
I happen to know that. 00:36:51
Because the fellow by the name of Bob Hughes assured that with me he was able to track down the PO. 00:36:53
PO number on the ballots and verify who paid for it with Runback. 00:36:59
That ought to make your blood boil. 00:37:05
Because that's the kind of thing. 00:37:07
That can happen when you're unable. 00:37:09
To do a full hand count. 00:37:12
Of paper ballots. 00:37:15
Now once again. 00:37:17
Senator Burley highlighted the fact that in law. 00:37:18
There is no prohibition of doing the hand count. 00:37:21
In fact, I would call your attention to the hand count roadshow.org. 00:37:26
There is a system Louisiana has designed what they call the Clothesline System. 00:37:31
It's about hand counting the paper ballots. 00:37:36
At the precinct level. 00:37:39
That's where you get the detail. 00:37:41
So that's one of the things that I would advocate for. 00:37:44
I am advocating for. 00:37:47
Is the chief executive officer of the Election Fairness Institute. 00:37:49
It's a nonprofit organization that's dedicated to one thing. 00:37:53
Seeing to it that county officials. 00:37:56
Have security. 00:37:59
And transparency. 00:38:01
You know, we hear a lot of talk about integrity. Well, that's an output. 00:38:03
The input is having a secure system. 00:38:07
That you can rely on. 00:38:10
Now, the Holderman report showed categorically. 00:38:12
The equipment cannot be relied on because of a security defect. 00:38:16
If we're not so Williamson County, Tennessee. 00:38:21
Would have had an exact match on the paper ballots versus the machine count. 00:38:24
They didn't. 00:38:28
Now, once again, Senator Borelli spoke to that. 00:38:30
Said. Well, we fixed it. 00:38:32
Really. 00:38:34
How do we know? Can we see the code? I know you're just gonna have to take our word for it. 00:38:36
What is so mysterious about the? 00:38:41
Tabulation. 00:38:43
Unless of course, it's a calculation. 00:38:44
It seems stunning that so many elections come out 51% to 49%. 00:38:48
That is a statistical improbability so high. 00:38:52
It is not credible. 00:38:56
So I recommend if you want to do a little bit of your own research. 00:38:58
I'm visiting the hand count roadshow.org. 00:39:02
And we are making plans to have that roadshow visit. 00:39:06
Probably in Phoenix. 00:39:09
I understand that there's quorum problems, so you're going to have to. 00:39:11
Decide amongst you who might want to come. You can't all three come. 00:39:14
But you'll see an opportunity to disprove the allegation. 00:39:18
That it's a logistical nightmare. That it's a logistical impossibility. 00:39:23
To hand count the number of ballots that you would have in your system. This is a classic throughput problem. 00:39:28
If you have nice people and you have an efficient system. 00:39:34
But quite frankly, the roadshow. 00:39:37
Is doing a hand count demonstrating a hand count? 00:39:40
Where they digital camera overhead? 00:39:43
For ultimate transparency. Why? Because their live streaming account as it's happening. 00:39:47
What we have right now is the crisis of. 00:39:54
Faith in the system. 00:39:56
That's what we're facing right now. 00:39:59
And I I guarantee you. 00:40:02
That your constituents right now are focused on one thing. 00:40:04
Transparency. 00:40:08
Thank you very much. I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have. 00:40:10
Thank you. Go ahead. I have a question. 00:40:13
And anybody can answer it, what's the penalty for altering? 00:40:17
An election. 00:40:21
Well, Sir, it depends on whether or not you want to charge someone with treason. Well, yeah, I don't want to charge them with 00:40:24
anything because I'm not capable. I'm saying what is the what is the penalty for altering? 00:40:29
An election? Yeah, I'm talking about the ubiquitous day. OK, so if. 00:40:35
It can be found that it is a criminal event. 00:40:40
Criminal is going to require intent. 00:40:44
If there's intent to alter the election. 00:40:48
There's a number of different penalties depending upon. 00:40:50
How the the charges come out? 00:40:53
But at the highest level. 00:40:55
I suppose that that individual could be charged with treason. 00:40:57
And the reason I asked that because I mean you hear different things and there's a lot of things and and there's a lot of 00:41:01
questions about the election, but but if there's not enough balance about ballots for particular party. 00:41:07
At a particular voting station, and that's been proven. 00:41:13
What's the penalty? 00:41:16
What if? What if a marker is marked on a ballot that can't be read by the machine, so the ballots throw it out? What's the 00:41:18
penalty? 00:41:22
So. 00:41:27
Supervisor Humphrey that would deal with. 00:41:28
That's there's no intent there. 00:41:31
That's just something that happens is part of the election process. Now one would hope and I'm sure that the Heela County 00:41:35
elections officials. 00:41:38
Have already tested a lot of this stuff. 00:41:43
Do they have markers or pens that that bleed through? 00:41:45
I'm pretty sure that he LA County was not affected by that. 00:41:49
Like Maricopa County? 00:41:52
My guess would be that he LA County actually proved all that stuff in advance. 00:41:55
To show we have to use this process, we have to use these tools. We have to use this paper. 00:42:00
That's why you didn't notice the Heela County's name in the media. 00:42:06
Something you should probably be very happy about. 00:42:11
Yeah. Senator Barrel, he's probably got some additional perspective. OK. Thank you, Sir. Yeah. And the remedy to that, you're 00:42:17
right. Like, you know, ballot on-demand printers. 00:42:22
And they were the wrong size. It wouldn't go through the tabulator. 00:42:26
Bleed through all those things. 00:42:30
Guess what? All that stuff is eliminated. 00:42:32
If you just do a hand count. 00:42:35
If it goes through a ballot on-demand tabulator. 00:42:37
It's not going to go. 00:42:40
It goes to a ballot on demand printer. It's time to go through a tabulator. 00:42:41
Because you're going to count it by hand. 00:42:45
If it bleeds through, obviously you can see that it went through and it didn't affect. The other side didn't affect. 00:42:47
And that's why you have also have your observers or your county. 00:42:53
Elections director and even. 00:42:56
The parties have lawyers there in in that room when they're checking. 00:42:58
But if you alleviate, alleviate. 00:43:02
All those. 00:43:04
Calculators. 00:43:06
Electronic voting systems. 00:43:07
Let's stop this song. 00:43:10
Yeah. 00:43:11
I hope I answered your question. 00:43:14
Best you could. Thank you. OK, Supervisor. Christians, thank you Chairman. Thank you Representative Chairman. 00:43:18
So I appreciate all of you good presentation. 00:43:25
And I would just. 00:43:28
Suggest that I would. 00:43:32
Be I would not be opposed to having a work session on what we're doing in Heela County, how it's conducted. 00:43:35
And whether or not there are options from the Board of Supervisors to improve it in any way that we deem necessary. So I think a 00:43:42
work session would be something. 00:43:47
To look at because I know I have a lot of constituents. 00:43:53
That are very concerned about. 00:43:56
Going forward? 00:43:58
Mr. Chairman. 00:44:01
I would be happy to have as one of the options that you could do. 00:44:02
The demonstration of a hand count system. 00:44:06
That would fit, I'm sure, into the Heela County system to replace. 00:44:09
Mechanical or electronic tabulation. 00:44:15
Thank you. All I need is the date and time we have here. 00:44:17
Thank you all for presenting today. Very good. I really appreciate it and. 00:44:21
Thanks for coming. 00:44:26
Good to see you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I always say follow up with. 00:44:27
Improve your net, Higher vet. There you go. Thank you. 00:44:32
Thank you all. Thank you. OK, moving on to #3 public hearing. 00:44:36
3:00 AM Information discussion Action to Adopt Ordinance #2023-05, Environmental Health and Repeal previously adopted Ordinance 00:44:43
number 2014. 00:44:49
Dash 02 Dash Hilo County Wastewater. 00:44:57
And any other previously adopted wastewater ordinances and we have Josh Beck and Michael O'Driscoll. I guess we got Josh, Good 00:45:00
morning, Chairman, Klein. Board supervisors also have Shake, Carrot and Alex Kendrick and Eric and the patient as well in case you 00:45:08
have any questions. But so we have prevented this numerous times. Mr. O'Driscoll started this in 2021. We've taken our time with 00:45:15
it because we're really trying to make sure we get it right. We had a. 00:45:23
Couple different fee schedules for wastewater and for the food process and. 00:45:31
We're trying to clean that up to make it really better for residents. It's better for us as well, but it's better for residents 00:45:36
because before we had just all kinds of different charges for like mobile food units and all these different categories. And if 00:45:40
you looked at it, you were just kind of confused. 00:45:45
Now we're going to go in line more with what other counties have, which is a risk based system. There's four risk categories and 00:45:49
that's how we kind of evaluate everything. It's more straightforward. It's easier for us to explain to somebody. It's easier for 00:45:56
them to understand. It kind of aligns better with other counties. If somebody moves here, they're more aware of what it is. 00:46:02
It really goes through part of what took it longer for us, it really goes through and it defines the powers that are delegated to 00:46:08
us through the state of Arizona. 00:46:13
It goes through and really defines. Here's all the powers that we have and how you know that process affects everything. We kind 00:46:17
of spell that out way better now than what we had in the past. 00:46:21
Um. 00:46:26
The last edition that's really helpful is for the Tri-City Sanitation District. 00:46:27
We've set in a what we call like a limp along permit. 00:46:32
So that people that live in that Tri-City sanitation district have a cesspool that fails. 00:46:36
This one I feel pretty good about. 00:47:11
Thank you, Josh's supervisor, Humphrey. 00:47:13
I have no question, Josh. I didn't thank you for the time and effort to. 00:47:16
Put into this Supervisor Christiansen, thank you. Thank you Josh and Michael for working on this and your whole staff. 00:47:20
And this has been ongoing and this is not like a new. 00:47:27
New thing. It's just we've had a hodgepodge thing going on and now we're getting it. We're getting our act together and I like 00:47:32
that. Thank you. 00:47:35
Josh, thanks. Yeah, it has been a long time. 00:47:41
Working on this, so I appreciate all your help. I think with that I'm gonna open up the public meeting part of it. 00:47:43
Public hearing and Do we have anybody in Payson, Joseph? 00:47:50
No Sir, OK. 00:47:55
Nothing. No comments on YouTube and I don't believe we have anyone here. It's all closed the public hearing and entertain a 00:47:57
motion. Mr. Chair, I move to adopt Ordinance #2023-05. 00:48:04
Repealing Ordinance #2014-02 and any other previously adopted wastewater ordinances. 00:48:10
Move your chair. I'll second that having a motion and a second. 00:48:19
Ohh. 00:48:23
Say yeah. 00:48:24
All all in favor say aye. Aye, Aye. I think I got it right. Aye. Motion carries. 00:48:27
I'm just learning to talk, Josh. It's OK. 00:48:34
OK, on this number three, public hearings 3B Information discussion Action to adopt resolution #23-07-02. 00:48:37
To name W Lone Ranger Trail in the Tunnel Basin area. Tom Holman. Good morning, Tom. Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the 00:48:47
Board. Yep, Tunnel Basin is once again expanding and we need to assign Rd. names so we can assign addresses the residents there. 00:48:57
Perhaps euphemistically. 00:49:08
Selected Lone Ranger to go with Tonto. 00:49:09
But um, you know, it meets all our standards, so. 00:49:12
Here I am before you today. I'm willing to take any questions. Supervisor Hunt for any questions. 00:49:16
I have met Supervisor Christensen. Thank you, Tom. Yeah, I have no questions. I think you'll probably be come to us more and more 00:49:22
often. It feels like it's. Yeah. Thank you. And I'm good as well, Tom. So I'll open that up. Public hearings. Do we have anyone in 00:49:27
Payson? 00:49:32
No Sir. And no comments, anybody on YouTube and I don't see anyone here. So with that I'll entertain a motion. 00:49:39
Mr. I moved to adopt resolution #23-0702. 00:49:46
I will second. 00:49:51
Having a motion in a second all in favor, do so by saying aye, Aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, Tom. Thank you. 00:49:52
Okay regular agenda items #4A Information Discussion Action to authorize advertisement of request for proposals number. 00:50:00
061423 00:50:09
for Primary Banking Service for the HeLa County Treasurer Monica. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Mr. Chairman, 00:50:12
Supervisor Christianson, Supervisor Humphrey. 00:50:17
I'm here this morning to request to advertise a request for proposal for a primary banking service. 00:50:22
And that's per ARS 35-325. 00:50:29
Currently now our banking primary banking services with JP Morgan. 00:50:33
Chase that expired June 30th of 2023. 00:50:38
So right now the procedure is that I must advertise. 00:50:42
And it's going to be in the pacing roundup on July the 17th, July 25th of 2023. 00:50:46
With a bid due date of August 10th, 2023. 00:50:53
Once those bids are in. 00:50:58
All this will be reviewed by appropriate parties and that would be the county manager. 00:51:00
Deputy County Manager, Finance Director and myself and a decision would be made to extend an offer to our new. 00:51:05
Premier Banking. 00:51:16
Contract for three years. 00:51:17
So right now it's just a procedure to advertise. 00:51:19
Thank you, Monica. 00:51:23
Supervisor Humphrey and questions. 00:51:24
No, just just the advertisement part of it. You know, if someone doesn't happen to read the paste paper, then they don't know so. 00:51:27
We we've got into situations in the past, but anyway I I have no questions, gonna be on the website and I'm not sure I believe 00:51:34
it's going to be available in the paper and also on the web, also on the web. 00:51:40
Hearing. 00:51:47
Mr. Chair, Supervisors. And just so you know, we do have a list of banks. 00:51:49
And this will go out to all of them directly, so whether they get the payment or not. 00:51:54
The the banks will receive the invitation and then if they choose to respond and they can. The last time we went out to bid, we 00:52:00
received two bids. They were very competitive, so they advanced to an interview process. 00:52:08
And then as. 00:52:15
As Treasurer Wolforth mentioned, there was a committee that chose between the two bids for the successful bidder. 00:52:17
Hi, Thank you very much for reaching out to the qualifying parties. 00:52:25
Supervisor Christiansen. Thank you. Mr. Chairman. I have no questions. Thank you. Thank you. And I'm good as well. Thank you, 00:52:31
Monica. And with that, I'd entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, I'll move to authorize the advertisement of request. 00:52:36
For proposal number 061423. 00:52:43
I'll second that having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, motion carries. Thank you, Monica. 00:52:47
And on 2 for B Information Discussion Action. 00:52:54
To approve agreement number 03162023. 00:52:59
Between Hillary County and the Town of Payson in the amount of $73,000 to support public transportation services. 00:53:04
In the patients Star Valley area for the calendar year 2023, James, this Chairman, I'm not going to get up, no. So yeah. 00:53:12
Mr. Chairman, as you know, in southern Helen County we have to the copper bus system that we have here have contributed for a 00:53:20
number of years, $73,000. 00:53:25
Of. 00:53:30
They pace in Senior Center, of course, in northern Healer counties. 00:53:31
Began the B Line bus system several years ago. 00:53:35
Are the Senior Center. 00:53:39
That is not their primary focus. They wanted to divest from the the bus system. 00:53:41
In northern Healy County. 00:53:48
And thankfully, very thankfully, the town of Payson took over management and administration of the B Line bus. 00:53:50
And Hula County. 00:53:58
And. 00:54:00
Opposing that is consistent and it's equitable that we have have. 00:54:03
Partnered. 00:54:09
With our partners here in Southern Nevada County to 273,000 a year that we do likewise in the northern part of the county. And so 00:54:10
this is an IGA that we work with. 00:54:15
The Northern bus system town of Payson. 00:54:20
To support that transit system. 00:54:23
To the $273,000. 00:54:26
Thank you James Supervisor Humphrey. 00:54:28
I have no questions. Supervisor Christians, thank you. Chairman. Thank you. Mr. Manlove. I have no objection to this. I just if if 00:54:32
it's permissible to ask, how is the advisory committee? 00:54:37
Are coming this first formation. 00:54:43
As far as the. 00:54:46
Transportation Advisory Committee Yes, I have a a meeting. 00:54:48
Town of Patient has a meeting scheduled. 00:54:52
Later this month. I'm not sure of the date, but I am planning to attend that. 00:54:54
As far as the advisory committee? 00:55:00
The next step as far as the. 00:55:02
Intergovernmental partnership that we have is an IGA. 00:55:04
And I'm working with CAG to continue to work through that idea that we can take it. 00:55:09
I will work with CAG to take an IGA out to all the different communities. 00:55:14
That will participate the six. 00:55:19
Organized municipalities in HeLa County take that presented to their councils and that we can all consider an intergovernmental 00:55:21
agreement to go forward on the I PTA. 00:55:26
So two different, two different things, but they are both moving forward. 00:55:32
There is a Transportation Advisory Committee. 00:55:37
First meeting, Initial meeting. 00:55:40
Later on this month. 00:55:42
Thank you. 00:55:43
And I don't have any questions for you, James. I'll entertain a motion. Mr. Chair, I move to approve agreement number 03162023 00:55:45
with the Town of Payson in the amount of $73,000. I will second that Mr. Chair have a motion. And second, all in favor. Do so by 00:55:51
saying aye. Aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, James. 00:55:57
On the Foresee Information discussion Action to approve the use of Sourcewell contract number. 00:56:04
090122 Dash GET with Code 3 technology. 00:56:11
In the amount of $300,439.13. 00:56:17
For the purchase of new laptops and vehicle docking stations and we have coal and carry. 00:56:23
Good morning. You too. Good morning, Chairman, Board members. Today we come before you to address the important matter of the 00:56:28
directly affects the efficiency and security of our Sheriff's Office. In recent years, we've witnessed the significant rise. 00:56:34
And cyber threats and attempts to breach sensitive information, the safeguard. 00:56:40
To safeguard our operations and to ensure the highest level of security, we have implemented multi factor authentication 00:56:45
throughout the county. 00:56:48
Multi factor authentication provides an additional layer of protection required multiple forms of verification to access critical 00:56:52
systems and data. 00:56:57
Our Sheriff's Office requires new laptops that meet the highest standards of reliability to update technology enhanced security 00:57:01
features. 00:57:05
These laptops are crucial tools for our daily operations and to provide faster, more secure multi factor authentication for our 00:57:09
deputies. 00:57:13
The current laptops we estimate to be approximately 10 years old. 00:57:17
By equipping the deputies with modern laptops, we empower them to perform their duties efficiently and accurately. These laptops 00:57:21
will enable our deputies to access vital information in the field, communicate seamlessly with our other departments, and maintain 00:57:27
a secure connection while handling sensitive data. 00:57:33
Moreover, they will. 00:57:39
They will enable us to meet the evil. 00:57:41
Technology requirements of law enforcement and adapt to the ever changing landscape of digital threats. 00:57:43
I understand that the budgetary considerations are always a concern and, however, the long term benefits and the protection of our 00:57:49
critical resources far outweigh the initial investment. 00:57:54
I urge you to carefully consider the impact that requiring new laptops for MFA purposes will have an efficiency and security to 00:57:59
our Sheriff's Office. 00:58:03
With today's approval, the laptops used for sheriff's deputies will now be replaced every five years. 00:58:08
Like the rest of the county's equipment, this will help us budget and ensure that we have the up-to-date hardware to address 00:58:14
security needs and keep the county safe. 00:58:18
We'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. 00:58:22
Thank you, Kerry. Supervisor Humphrey. 00:58:25
I have no questions. Mr. Chair, Supervisor Christensen, thank you. I have no questions. 00:58:27
So where's the money coming from? 00:58:32
This will be coming from Capital. 00:58:34
Our capital. 00:58:36
We have the money, James. 00:58:38
Who's chairman? This is part of Coleman. So that investment from. 00:58:41
The ARPA. 00:58:48
Once. OK, so that's cool. 00:58:49
So what happens to the old laptops that we replace? So the old top they'll laptops that we have will be decommissioned. Like I 00:58:51
said, they're 10 plus years old, so they'll probably be. 00:58:56
Sorry, they will, they will be. We have a company that we use for Easy Street that actually comes and decommissions our at our 00:59:05
current any old laptops or computers that we may have and then from here on out then every five years these new laptops would be 00:59:11
replaced at Diana. 00:59:17
Routine replacement schedule, Yes Sir. So currently the current laptops they that they have are refurbished laptops, so when they 00:59:23
get them they're refurbished at that point. So with these they will have new laptops which will have the multi factor 00:59:30
authentication, which will have the fingerprint readers which makes it easier for the deputies to use. 00:59:36
We tested multi different things to give them different ways to be able to authenticate and this was our easiest way for them to 00:59:44
authenticate was with the fingerprint reader. So so another question so or when we purchased these laptops is that for every 00:59:51
deputy position in the Sheriff's Office or is that just for the ones that are filled? 00:59:58
We're purchasing it for every position we have a little bit of a deficit. 01:00:06
But in case a piece of equipment goes down, we have them the ability to put that computer back in. We can take a brand new one off 01:00:11
the shelf, deploy it right away. That way there's not a gap in. 01:00:16
Abilities for the deputies. Cause I I believe you're down on deputies now anyway. Right positions, yeah. 01:00:22
Don't quote me, but it's in the. 01:00:28
Five to seven different positions were down, OK. 01:00:30
Alright. 01:00:34
Any other questions you two, we're good. Just one if, if. 01:00:35
Well, if they're gonna be replaced every five years, how do we budget for five years away? 01:00:39
We'll build that into our long term budget I. 01:00:49
Camp Como said it's going to be within five years. 01:00:52
It will depend on what the financial position of the county looks like and the prioritizing our needs. 01:00:55
As we go. 01:01:02
So I I can't say that in five years they're gonna be would be replaced. 01:01:03
OK, so by approving this, we're, we're not approving that they're upgraded every five years. We're just not approving the purchase 01:01:07
of them. In the worst case scenario, you know, say that doesn't happen in five years, there's going to be devices that are still 01:01:12
probably in. 01:01:17
Fairly good shape. 01:01:22
We could replace probably the the worst 8 or 10 that are out there or they'll have some about this big that do everything, yeah. 01:01:24
Yeah, we have the worst ones out there and move forward. If we get into a bad position like that without putting some, OK, yeah, 01:01:32
just, just. 01:01:35
Just looking ahead, just brought up some questions. So OK, thank you, Mr. Chair, thanks. We'll say on the number of pieces, items 01:01:38
of equipment that they would they're per vehicle. 01:01:44
Because these are going into vehicles, so it's not necessary. 01:01:50
Authorized FTE. That's so that a vehicle is equipped. 01:01:53
And able to meet the needs of the officer out on the field. So that's what we were intending to do, not necessarily on FTE. 01:01:57
Umm. 01:02:06
And again, this is part of the the plan that we had long term of committing $2,000,000 of technology so that we can upgrade. 01:02:08
Our technology and. 01:02:14
Not yet. They'll ask you enhance our capability to be more efficient. 01:02:17
And what we do across the board. 01:02:21
So the reason I asked about is whether or not you're purchasing this for every position that you have out there. 01:02:23
As we know, technology is outdated in about 6 months from now. 01:02:29
And so to go through and purchase a bunch of these laptops. 01:02:34
And have vacant positions where these laptops even you have a good idea called that would they would be sitting on a shelf and. 01:02:39
Readily available as somebody to break theirs or one goes down but. 01:02:45
But then there may there's a possibility too. We're purchasing laptops that may not get used. 01:02:49
That in a matter of a couple of years? A year. 01:02:54
Six months, whatever it is. 01:02:57
It's outdated. 01:02:59
And so we've just thrown some money away, James. 01:03:00
I believe the Sheriff's Office not trying to speak to you. 01:03:03
Call that they're rotating their vehicle, so the equipment is being used, that's why it's not. 01:03:08
Being assigned to a vacant position is assigned to a vehicle and the vehicle for the rotator. OK, and they're all used. 01:03:13
Yeah. So that that scenario of having some kind of computer having it set for a year or two is is. 01:03:20
Will not happen. 01:03:28
Can I quote you on that later, James? 01:03:30
Just kidding. Go ahead. 01:03:33
Supervisor Humphrey did. Yes something. No, I'm good. Thank you. You're good. I think I am too. So thanks you guys. One thing like 01:03:36
I got a question here for you. But. 01:03:40
Sam. 01:03:45
Official title. 01:03:48
Sergeant, Sergeant. 01:03:50
Yeah, it was the conduct crossword anyway. OK. Thank you, Cole. Thank you. Carry with that. I'd entertain a motion, Mr. Chairman, 01:03:53
to approve the use of Sourcewell contract number 090122. 01:03:58
Dash GET. 01:04:04
With code 3 technology in the amount of 300. 01:04:06
$1439.13. 01:04:09
Mr. Chair, I will second that having a motion, and a second all in favor, diesel, by saying aye, aye, aye, aye, Motion carries. 01:04:13
On to 4D. 01:04:21
Information Discussion Action to Approve Service Agreement number 061423 Dash 1. 01:04:23
With. 01:04:31
Exicom incorporated to provide hindsight H4 multimedia logging recording system in the amount of $99,708.23. 01:04:32
Through June 30th, 2024 and Cole interior up again. 01:04:45
Yeah. So I didn't prepare anything quite as extensive as what Kerry had there. But essentially, this is a pretty simple piece of 01:04:50
equipment we're looking to replace. 01:04:54
The Sheriff's Office within our dispatch facility and Globe has what we call the recorder system and it essentially takes all of 01:04:58
the phone lines within the Sheriff's Office, all our VoIP phones. 01:05:04
All of the radio channels the Sheriff's Office uses and the fire medical radio channels. 01:05:09
The Sheriff's Office uses. 01:05:15
And it records those. 01:05:17
For transparency, if the public requests it for after action, reviews, if there was a a critical incident for court cases, all the 01:05:18
normal things we'd expect to see with something that records what we do. 01:05:24
Umm. 01:05:31
The current system should have been replaced several years ago. We've been working on trying to find a piece of equipment that we 01:05:32
all felt comfortable with from the IT side, from the Sheriff's Office side. 01:05:38
That worked well with their integration and requirements. 01:05:43
And worked well with a supervisor. 01:05:47
From the Sheriff's Office or in the dispatch center or in records, being able to easily log in has a. 01:05:50
Very usable interface. 01:05:56
To be able to gather whatever they need to gather. 01:05:58
Save it and. 01:06:01
Create a certificate that. 01:06:04
What they did was. 01:06:06
Complete and accurate when? 01:06:08
Done. 01:06:10
Done properly. So we we finally found a a piece of equipment we like. We found a vendor that we feel comfortable with to help us 01:06:11
purchase the piece of equipment, install it, implement it, train. 01:06:17
All the users and get us up and running and off the ground. 01:06:23
That's really kind of the long and short of the equipment and what we're looking to do with it. 01:06:28
Cool. Thanks. Cool. 01:06:33
To provide your Humphrey, Mr. Chair, I have no question Supervisor Christensen and neither do I. Thank you. Looks like we're 01:06:34
spending a lot of money on you today Cole. Thank you. I appreciate that. There is there is also a grant that was that they found 01:06:39
funding for. Yes. 01:06:44
So partial parking. Yeah, so. 01:06:50
Coordinator Deborah Williams. She was asked to look for a grant. For this, she was able to find one to the tune of $49,000 even. 01:06:54
And that will supplement the the purchase of this. Well, that's good. Thank you. 01:07:02
That entertain emotion. 01:07:07
Mr. Chair, I move to approve Service Agreement number 0614. 01:07:09
23-1 with Exicom in the amount of $99,708.23. I will second that having a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye, 01:07:14
Aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, Cole. Thank you, Carrie. 01:07:22
Thank you. On to E information discussion action to approve the use of State of Arizona Procurement Office contract number. 01:07:30
Ctr. 063770. 01:07:38
With Iron Mountain Incorporated in the amount of $538,197.46. 01:07:42
For the digitizing insight computer program, destruction of unneeded documents and transportation, pickup of documents and plans, 01:07:50
Randy, we have you and Payson. 01:07:55
Tomorrow, Karen Troop risers. 01:08:02
As you know, this has been an ongoing want and need for the. 01:08:04
County over several years, long before I was even here. 01:08:10
Of digitizing community development files. 01:08:15
We have. 01:08:19
A couple Connex boxes full of archive files that are not. 01:08:21
Climate controlled. 01:08:26
And they're just sitting out there. They grow Moby and. 01:08:27
And are are dying and we're trying to save all that. 01:08:31
Plus all of the 67 file cabinets full of. 01:08:34
Ongoing files that we have. 01:08:40
Umm. 01:08:42
I got involved in this about a year ago with Harry Jacobs. 01:08:43
And uh, it's taken that long to get to this point. 01:08:48
Basically we're looking at in community development around 72,000. 01:08:52
Files. 01:08:58
And. 01:08:59
We're looking at about. 01:09:00
Two and a half million. 01:09:02
Different scans of paperwork than permits and inspections. 01:09:05
And then we're looking at about 37,000. 01:09:10
Uh. 01:09:15
Plans. 01:09:15
That are going to be scanned. 01:09:17
They'll be put into a insight system. 01:09:19
Which makes anything that's on those plans are on those paper. 01:09:22
Recognizable. 01:09:27
We've been working with IT to ensure that everything works together and with the new permitting system that all that's going to 01:09:29
work together. 01:09:34
So that somewhere down the line we can turn this over to the citizens. 01:09:39
Where they can look up their own items, so if they want to know something about their parcel. 01:09:45
What's there? What's not there? They don't have to come into the office. 01:09:50
And then staff doesn't have to go pull. 01:09:54
A file line? A file cabinet. 01:09:56
Talk with them over the counter and then go make copies and so on and so on. 01:09:59
They'll be able to be at home and research this stuff on their own, print it out. 01:10:04
They have whatever information that's in there that's accessible. 01:10:08
Um, this is involving? 01:10:13
Quite extensive, there's this is a not to exceed number. 01:10:16
Because we first of all, we don't know exactly how many pieces of paper there are. We did not count two and a half million. 01:10:21
But that over the companies. 01:10:27
Experienced that average is what they came out, They have been to our site, have looked at our files, have went through them 01:10:29
several times. 01:10:33
We've had staff go through them to. 01:10:38
Uh, kind of verify the numbers they came up with and and the idea of all that. 01:10:40
Umm. 01:10:45
Right Now what the they had. 01:10:47
Propose. 01:10:50
Was. 01:10:51
That they will come pick up the files, take them, scan them. 01:10:52
Put them all back together and then bring them back to us. 01:10:55
Well, we're finding out through the state archives. 01:10:58
That we don't necessarily have to have those back. 01:11:01
Um, a lot of those are going to be destroyed. 01:11:04
Obviously. 01:11:07
Destroying the. 01:11:09
Files would be a lot cheaper than. 01:11:10
Um. 01:11:12
Having staff or having their staff. 01:11:14
Putting them back together and bringing it to us and then us refilling them again and. 01:11:17
Um, it doesn't seem like a a. 01:11:22
A good plan overall. 01:11:24
But under state archives we have to keep so many files or certain files. 01:11:26
Uh, for permanent. 01:11:32
So we are not going to get rid of all file cabinets. 01:11:33
But I sure hope to have a. 01:11:37
A. Fire shell on file cabinets at the end of this process. 01:11:39
The current time frame is route 10 months. 01:11:43
To get this accomplished. 01:11:47
At that point. 01:11:50
The computer program, the insight that you talked about is the program that recognizes the scans. 01:11:52
And we'll make it searchable by anyone who has access to that. 01:11:58
And we are working on all that and verified with other departments. 01:12:03
How this will work? IT has been involved. 01:12:08
Other departments are looking at going through the scanning. 01:12:11
We're just happy to be. 01:12:15
One of the bigger ones. 01:12:17
Moving forward, all the staff and it's already been purchased. 01:12:19
All the staff will have scanners at their desk and at the front counters. 01:12:23
So any paperwork coming in will just automatically get scanned. 01:12:28
And we won't have to hopefully go through this again. It will be an ongoing. 01:12:32
A process to ensure. 01:12:36
That the citizens had and staff have the most. 01:12:39
Up to date access to all their documents. 01:12:43
I'll be more happy ohh this is coming out of the ark money. 01:12:46
So if you have any questions, I'd be more than happy to answer them. Thank you, Randy. Supervisor Humphrey. 01:12:51
This one Randy, is is there a length of time that you need to keep records or just as far back as you get and as much information? 01:12:57
As you have, just keep it for as long as you can or. 01:13:05
Of. 01:13:09
Just for information for the public. 01:13:10
We have a documentation. 01:13:13
Timeline that is approved by the state. 01:13:17
Some are permanent. 01:13:20
A. A. A. 01:13:21
Permit card. 01:13:23
It's permanent. 01:13:25
A plan of the houses is 90 days. 01:13:26
A plan for a. 01:13:30
Commercial business is one year. 01:13:33
Uh. 01:13:35
We've kept them for a lot longer than that. 01:13:37
Um, basically because they're all in a file and you know, you'd have to pull those out and. 01:13:40
Everything else we did set up a system that we can get rid of. 01:13:45
Plans on a timely basis and we have them all dated by. 01:13:49
Time. 01:13:53
But the states the one that determines that. 01:13:54
Uh, what are permanent? What are not permanent? 01:13:57
And it's stated in the archive. 01:14:00
That if it was created. 01:14:03
By. 01:14:05
Hand. 01:14:06
You have to keep it permanently, so we have. 01:14:07
I'm gonna say several 100. 01:14:10
Uh. 01:14:12
Hermitage. 01:14:14
They were created by hand. They were actually handwritten out permits. 01:14:15
Those will be permanent. 01:14:19
If they're completed. 01:14:20
Started by the computer. 01:14:22
Then we can scan those and get rid of those. 01:14:24
I will say that the archives may not be up to date on all the options. 01:14:28
Because they still like microphone. 01:14:33
So I haven't seen one of those projectors in years, but that's kind of where they're at. So yes, there is a limit and there if you 01:14:36
exceed that limit, then you actually are in violation also. 01:14:42
Because if you tell me you're going to keep this for six months and you keep it for five years. 01:14:48
You're actually still in violation of the retention schedule. 01:14:52
There's still this company that's gonna take everything you have and do it all up nice and neat and not give it back to you. 01:14:56
Then you're going to need to, I guess, to inventory what you give them. 01:15:03
So the stuff that you don't need to keep or or things of that nature. 01:15:09
Uh, you're going to have to deal with that prior to them scanning everything. Is that correct? 01:15:15
Correct. And they need all the requirements for the handling. They actually inventory every piece of document that comes to them. 01:15:21
They do this all across the area. 01:15:29
Um, they're huge. 01:15:32
But they document everything that we give them. 01:15:34
We have certain stickers on, like those handwritten permits. 01:15:38
We have those as documented that those need to come back to us. 01:15:42
But the other ones don't necessarily need come back to us and then we'll have them destroyed. They will also provide us the 01:15:46
documentation that we need to give to the state when we destroy a document. 01:15:51
And they will ensure that all the paperwork that is required by the state. 01:15:57
Is followed and they do this all the time. 01:16:02
OK. Yeah. No, just question, ask and answer. Thank you very much. 01:16:06
Supervisor Christiansen. 01:16:12
Thank you, Chairman and thank you, Randy. Yeah, we we've known this is coming along and. 01:16:14
I find some things curious and funny. In fact I find most things curious and funny how we have discussed this morning about 01:16:19
converting our voting into non electronic, non tabulation paper count. Humans only. 01:16:27
And now we're going to completely go the other direction with digital files. And I I just find that humorous. 01:16:34
But I know we need to do that. 01:16:40
So thanks. 01:16:42
Yes, Sir. 01:16:44
Randy, thank you. I think this is that. 01:16:45
Obviously you haven't digitized and and. 01:16:48
Readily available for whoever needs to pull it up is a good team. 01:16:51
Comes with the big cost and I guess that is the ARPA money as well, so. 01:16:55
But this will set up the only thing I would be curious, Randy. And I know, I know, maybe I already know the answer to my own 01:17:00
question, but. 01:17:03
What about mess ups? Or how do you know everything's going to get through and be put in there that you're going to need? Is there 01:17:08
any guarantees? 01:17:11
I guarantee probably not, but this is a pretty efficient company has done it for other jurisdictions. 01:17:18
We'll document the files. 01:17:24
One of the things we're doing the plan is, is that let them take the archives out of the unex office. 01:17:26
Both here and patient and morning glow. 01:17:33
Practice on that. 01:17:36
Make sure that the quality of those are our worst files anyway. 01:17:38
To make sure the scans are up to the quality, that are readable and doable and everything else. 01:17:42
Um. 01:17:48
And then once we approve that then they will come and get other. 01:17:49
Portions of the files that's at a time. 01:17:54
They've actually even implemented. 01:17:57
That if during the scanning process. So in other words, there's a. 01:17:59
File that a customer comes in that we really have to have. 01:18:04
But it's in their possession. 01:18:07
Dave actually committed to go out, pull that file, scan it and send it to us. 01:18:09
So the customers aren't going to be. 01:18:14
Put out more than that necessary to get this accomplish. 01:18:17
OK. Thank you, Andy. 01:18:21
That entertain a motion, Mr. Chair, I move to approve the use of State of Arizona Procurement Office contract number Ctr. 063770, 01:18:23
with Iron Mountain Incorporated. 01:18:28
In the amount of $538,197.46 is presented. 01:18:34
Mr. Chair, I will second that having a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye, aye, aye, motion carries. Thank you, 01:18:40
Randy. 01:18:44
Onto Earth Information Discussion Action to enter into an agreement with Salt River Project. 01:18:49
For access and construction purposes consisting of excavation. 01:18:55
Folder placement, barricades and other related barrier placement activities on land located near a crossroad and to authorize the 01:19:00
Chairman to sign Salt River Project construction license number. 01:19:07
94886 for the period August 1st 23. 01:19:15
Through August 1st, 25 and we have Homero. 01:19:20
Good morning. Good morning, Chairman and Board members. 01:19:24
Tom Goodman was supposed to be the presenter, but the Army Corps called us yesterday afternoon and wanted to come visit what we 01:19:27
had done at Bloody Tanks, and I asked Tom to. 01:19:32
Represent the county on that site. Visit SO. 01:19:38
That's why I'm acting in his behalf this morning. So this is a request to enter into agreement with Salt River Project for a 01:19:41
construction easement. They call it a licensing agreement, but it's really a construction crew, simply just a construction 01:19:46
investment. It's a two year agreement for us to do work. 01:19:51
Uh, and and and use their property to to do that work. And then we move out and we no longer have have a license to do any 01:19:57
additional work beyond that. 01:20:02
The proposed work is located on the East End of a crossroads. 01:20:08
And like you mentioned, the work consists of excavating boulder placement, barricades and other related barrier placement 01:20:12
activities. 01:20:16
On the A+ crossroad. 01:20:20
The contractor that's on the Counter Creek Project project will place the boulders in a berm. 01:20:22
As part of the restoration project. 01:20:29
The road will be permanently closed and rehabilitated, also as part of the Conflict Free project by the contractor. 01:20:31
So it's our recommendation that the that the Board of Supervisors enter into this agreement with Salt River Project. And with 01:20:40
that, I'll take questions. Thank you, Homer. Supervisor Healthcare, I have no questions. 01:20:45
Supervisor Christian, thank you. No questions. 01:20:51
So you said the east side across the, did you mean the the West End that the bridge? 01:20:53
Umm. 01:20:59
There's a, there's a, there's a map fixer available on the and it shows the east side as as being. 01:21:00
The circle up there. 01:21:07
Yeah, he's inside. 01:21:09
So. 01:21:12
Whose jurisdiction is this? 01:21:15
Pardon me, whose jurisdiction is this that that property belongs to some river project? 01:21:18
It's surrounded by the forest. 01:21:24
At Aboriginally we thought it was for profit. 01:21:27
When we then when this project was first Invasion, then the contract was put together. 01:21:29
That particular area that we're working on belongs to Salt River Project. 01:21:34
Hmm. 01:21:40
So. 01:21:43
So what you're saying is this property is just right off of the the 288 it's right off of? 01:21:44
The apartment. 01:21:51
Umm. 01:21:53
At the apartment on the east side. 01:21:55
On this side of the bridge and east side of the bridge, OK. When you said east side of a cross, I was literally thinking across 01:21:59
Rd. 01:22:03
OK. Thank you, Homero. 01:22:07
I don't have any other questions either that I didn't paint a motion. 01:22:09
Mr. Chair, I'm I moved to enter into an agreement with Salt River Project and authorize the chairman. 01:22:12
To sign the Salt River Project construction license number. 01:22:18
94886 as presented, I will second that having a motion, and second all in favor do so by saying aye, aye, aye, motion carries. 01:22:22
See information discussion Action to adopt resolution #23-07. 01:22:32
Dash 03 to authorize the Chairman signature on the Arizona Department of Transportation. 01:22:38
Intergovernmental Agreement #20-0008 Zero 60-I. 01:22:44
Amendment #222-000 Eight 760-I. 01:22:52
Tunnel Creek Bridge construction. Homer, thank you. I'd like to offer some introductory remarks before I get into this agenda 01:22:58
item. 01:23:02
The amendment is required because we received additional grant monies. We received $250,000 in addition to what was originally 01:23:07
provided for us in the in the initial grant. 01:23:12
Uh, the work on the bridge is progressing very nicely. 41% of of the hours that were on the contract, 41% of the hours are 01:23:17
consumed. We're almost like halfway there. 01:23:22
The work is scheduled to be completed next June. 01:23:27
Work is taking place right now on Gabions. 01:23:31
Uh, they're they're doing the forming and the pouring on columns on pure caption on a bit abutments in the next couple of weeks, 01:23:34
so you should be able you can't see the work from from the highway as you drive by. 01:23:39
And it'll be more prominent in the very near future. 01:23:45
So the Board of Supervisors approved the original IGA with a dot on May 25th of 21 for the bridge construction. 01:23:49
And on June 3rd of of of. 01:23:57
2020 Second, the board approved Amendment #1. 01:24:00
We have looked at that. Those documents that we felt like they were didn't really express the numbers. We went back to a dot when 01:24:04
we received the 250,000. 01:24:08
And we asked them to review those documents and they did some edits. 01:24:13
And I'd like to share a spreadsheet that's actually up there and it's in your package. 01:24:17
That that best explains the flow of money. 01:24:22
But Amendment number 2 will revise the project cost to include the $250,000 increase in the bill and the bill grant. 01:24:25
Um, and the execution of this amendment and the receipt of the additional after receiving the the Additional Bill grant. 01:24:31
The county will be in reimbursed in amount of 32,450 and if and if you look at the spreadsheet that's up there. 01:24:40
Uh, it's a very top of the spreadsheet. Uh, the first box that you see are the costs associated with the bridge. There's a utility 01:24:48
relocation cost. 01:24:52
Biological monitoring, cost image construction. 01:24:57
That, by the way, has not changed. That's the original contract that we received from Ames. We still have at least 75% of our 01:25:00
contingency left on that contract. Things are working very nicely at this point in time. 01:25:06
There's a, there's a construction administration of a little over two million, $2.5 million with ADOPT. There's a contingency 01:25:12
amount that I just mentioned is at least 75% in fact at this point for our construction total of just a little over $25 million. 01:25:20
OK. 01:25:29
The original bill grant provided a little bit over $21 million. 01:25:30
Umm. 01:25:35
And the county share the difference of of those two numbers is a little bit over 4,412,000 dollars 600 and. 01:25:36
605 dollars. 01:25:44
4,004,605 dollars. 01:25:45
So that was the the county share that's required, the county has paid. 01:25:48
So far 3.7 million a little over 3.7 million that was in two payments. 01:25:53
And the difference that's still needed is $217,000 and 2000. 01:25:58
To $217,550. 01:26:05
And the additional bill grant provides 250,000. 01:26:09
And that's the difference that I that we just mentioned a minute ago that that we would get reimbursed 32,449 when the project is 01:26:12
done. 01:26:16
Are given that we don't exceed our contingency, OK. So basically it's a I think it's good news, it's settled, set everything up 01:26:21
and there's a little bit of money left over at the end of the project. So we would like to recommend the adoption. 01:26:28
Of Amendment #2 by the Board of Supervisors. 01:26:35
Thank you, Homer. 01:26:39
Any questions? Supervisor helping? Mr. Chair, I have no questions. Thank you. 01:26:41
Suffrage Christiansen Only one Where did that 250 come from? The state or federal? Federal OK. 01:26:45
Thanks to the people before me. 01:26:53
This actually has been around for a while. 01:26:56
It's just that they don't belong while to figure out the the, the, the accounting for the project. 01:26:58
Thank you. 01:27:04
Thank you, Omar. I'm good with that idea kind of motion. 01:27:05
Mr. Chairman, I will move to adopt Resolution #23-07-03 and authorize the Chairman signature on the Arizona Department of 01:27:07
Transportation Intergovernmental Agreement 20-0008, Zero 60-I and then number 222. 01:27:16
Dash 0008760 as presented. 01:27:25
I'll second that Mr. Chair having a motion, and second all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. 01:27:29
Onto age, information, discussion, action. 01:27:36
To approve the use of State of Arizona Procurement Office contract number ADOA Ctr. 058876. 01:27:40
With Kimley, Horn and Associates incorporated. 01:27:49
In the amount of $472,000 to update the Four service Hwy. 512. 01:27:52
Environmental documents and clearances with the completion date of September 9th, 24 Homer. 01:27:58
Thank you. 01:28:04
So on September 6th of 2022, the Board approved the USDA Forest Service Rd. Project Agreement. 01:28:06
Which Provided $472,000 as a grant to undertake the environmental document. 01:28:14
For that portion of 512 Four Service Hwy. 512 that has not been paid. 01:28:21
They provided this funding. 01:28:27
We'd like to utilize it and we'd like to utilize Kimley Horn's services through to complete the environmental service. 01:28:29
And those things are the environmental. 01:28:37
The environmental assessment. 01:28:40
Would include the of course, the biological, the archaeological, the 404 scoping with all the all the required entities. 01:28:43
And also it would include 60% of the design work for for the road itself. 01:28:52
So when we would be finished with the environmental assessment work, we would have most of the design work for the road already 01:28:58
done. 01:29:01
Right. 01:29:06
Um, and there we would like to the grant actually has a a term limit. We would like to meet be compliant with that with that term 01:29:07
limit. 01:29:12
And and therefore they're the request is. 01:29:18
Umm. 01:29:21
It's the The proposal and scope of work by Kim Lee Horn has been reviewed by the Forest Service. They'll be sure that the project 01:29:22
would not be missing any elements at the end of the contract. 01:29:27
Uh, the owners Contingency. There's actually. 01:29:32
Can We Horn would like to charge $402,000. 01:29:36
And leaving 69,000. 01:29:41
$212.00 in that grant amount available. We'd like to keep that as that owners contingency in case anything shows up. If nothing 01:29:44
happens then that we probably will have to ask the four service if we can use that money for something else or return it. 01:29:51
But there seems to be ample funding in the grant to undertake the environmental assessment. 01:30:00
And and we do have a a time frame that we've incorporated into the into the agreement with Kimley Horn and that's to complete 01:30:05
complete the environmental assessment by 9/9 of next year, 2024. 01:30:12
And with that, I'll, I'll take questions. 01:30:19
Thank you, Homer. Supervisor Humphrey, Mr. Chair, I have no questions. Supervisor Christensen, thank you. No questions. There's 01:30:22
472,000 Homer. That's the money or James we got from Senator Kelly. 01:30:28
Is that right? 01:30:34
No, I I don't. 01:30:38
I'm sorry, So where Where did so where did money come from? 01:30:42
It's a federal grant. 01:30:46
Or to our service. OK, it came through the Forest Service to us. 01:30:48
OK. 01:30:52
Thank you. 01:30:54
Yeah. 01:30:55
Maybe we can get something done, Homer. 01:30:56
We if I could. 01:30:59
We're also applying for. 01:31:02
Money through keg to finish the design. 01:31:04
We're submitting a grant at at this time. Tom is preparing that and working with KEG. 01:31:09
We're submitting for monies to finish the design and and obtain some pavement. The grant size is $1.8 million. 01:31:15
And we'll be sharing that with the board in more formal fashion. 01:31:23
In the in the near future. 01:31:27
Sounds good, Homer. And I don't know if any of you guys have been on that North Rd. in the last. 01:31:29
While but it is totally mucked out. 01:31:34
So, and it's gotten to the point where. 01:31:37
No matter what we do with motor graders or anything else, it just it stays beat out. Traffic is unreal, speed is high. 01:31:40
The whole 9 yards, so. 01:31:47
It's it's done but. 01:31:49
Surprise the helping Yeah, that pavement will slow him down no longer, but but it'll sure be nice to him, my trailers and stuff, 01:31:51
so. 01:31:55
Anyway, we need coal up there by well, what can we do by Saturday? 01:32:00
Cross your fingers, I guess. I don't know. 01:32:06
Homework. Thank you that I entertain the motion, Mr. 01:32:09
I move to approve the use of. 01:32:13
Of State of Arizona Procurement Office Contract number ADOADTR. 01:32:15
058876 With Kimley Horn and Associates incorporated in the amount of. 01:32:23
$472,000 as presented. I'll second that having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, Aye, aye. Motion carries. 01:32:29
Thank you, Homer. Thank you. Appreciate it. On to I information discussion, action to approve Amendment #2. 01:32:38
To State of Arizona Contract Agreement number Ctr. 050894. 01:32:46
So Jenna served to extend the term of the contract for an additional year to June 30th 24 for a not to exceed contract amount of 01:32:53
$206,503.15 Chris. 01:33:00
Good morning, Mr. Chairman Support. 01:33:07
Simple thing appeared too fast for your approval to continue another year for our janitorial services. 01:33:11
Cool. OK, Supervisor Humphrey. 01:33:18
I I have no questions. Does it go out to bid? 01:33:22
No, not yet. This is the end of the third year that we had as an agreement with the janitorial service. OK. We go out for three 01:33:27
years and this is the last year and this is the last year and then it will go back out to business. OK. Thank you. 01:33:33
Supervisor Christians and thank you. No, don't have anything. I'm good. Chris thanks that. Other chairman. Yo, yeah. Can I have 01:33:40
clarification and Chris, what? 01:33:44
Territory does this cover quantify what exactly we're It covers North and South. 01:33:50
Heal accounting. So it's it's up in the Payson area it's down here in globe. 01:33:55
The price hasn't increased since. 01:34:02
The Amendment #1. 01:34:04
Just because we haven't had any additional square footage yet. 01:34:07
So I see possibly next year that it will be increased. 01:34:12
But we'll have to wait and see. 01:34:16
Thank you for that, James. 01:34:19
Now I'll call for a motion. 01:34:21
Mr. Chair, I move to approve Amendment #2 to State of Arizona Contract agreement number Ctr. 050894 with Jennifer with the not to 01:34:23
exceed amount of $206,503. 01:34:29
$0.15 and extend the contract to June 30th, 2024. 01:34:36
Mr. Chair, I'll second that having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank 01:34:41
you, Chris. 01:34:45
On the Jay information discussion action. 01:34:49
To approve an independent contractor agreement contract number 07012023 Dash 24, between the Arizona Community Action Association 01:34:52
doing business as WILDFIRE and the HeLa County Community Services Department. 01:35:00
Community Action program whereby welfare will administer funding in the amount of $125,800. 01:35:08
Which will be used to provide weatherization services, utility repair and replacement. 01:35:17
Utility Deposits and Bill assistance to eligible citizens residing in HeLa County for the period of July 1st, 23. 01:35:23
Through June 30th, 24 Kelly. 01:35:31
Good morning, Chairman, Members of the Board, good morning. Like you said, this is a grant that we received for weatherization 01:35:34
services for our community as well as utility repair and replacement. 01:35:39
Um and assistance with utility deposits and bills. 01:35:45
This grant has no matching requirement and has been very helpful for our community in the past. 01:35:49
Thank you, Kaylee. Supervisor Humphrey questions, comments. And just one, are you having any luck with local contractors working 01:35:56
with you on some of these projects? So yeah, we have contracts in place. There are some requirements that our contractors have to 01:36:01
abide by. So that has been a bit of a struggle. 01:36:07
But um, but we have had success. 01:36:15
OK. Thank you, supervisor. 01:36:17
Thank you, Kaylee. No questions. Good job, Kaylee. Thank you kind of motion. 01:36:20
Mr. Chair, I move to approve. 01:36:26
An independent contract agreement. Contract number 07012. 01:36:28
023-24 with the Arizona Community Action. 01:36:33
Association. 01:36:38
Wildfire in the amount of $125,800 as presented. I will second that having a motion and second all in favor do so by saying aye 01:36:40
aye aye aye Motion carries on decay. 01:36:46
Information, Discussion, Action to approve a Memorandum of Understanding. 01:36:53
Between the Homeless ID project incorporated H IDP. 01:36:58
And the Hila County Community Services Department for the period of July 1st, 23. 01:37:03
Through June 31st, 24, whereby the Community Services Department will be a. 01:37:08
HDP affiliate in order to procure replacement identification, identification documents. 01:37:14
For eligible Healey County residents experiencing homelessness, Kelly. 01:37:22
Mr. Chairman, Members of the board, this agreement has no funding attached to it, but it will be beneficial in helping people in 01:37:27
our community who are experiencing homelessness. 01:37:32
We can help them get vital documents such as photo IDs and birth certificates. 01:37:38
Um, this is something that people often kind of stop the process because it's it's a lengthy process. Or has. 01:37:43
Fees associated with it and through this agreement we can help mitigate those issues for our clients and help them. 01:37:50
To, you know, come out of homelessness on the other side. 01:37:59
Supervisor Humphrey questions comments. I have no questions. 01:38:03
Supervisor Christiansen. 01:38:07
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Kerry. Yeah, this is. 01:38:08
That's great. Thank you. 01:38:12
So. 01:38:14
We've been doing this before. 01:38:16
No, this is the new new agreement with the Homeless ID project that just came about. 01:38:19
OK, so I see a lot of advantages to this for folks take advantage of this deep. 01:38:25
So you haven't started it yet, right? You're going to when's that start date going? 01:38:31
Yeah. 01:38:36
The agreement says July 1, so as soon as it gets approved, we can begin. 01:38:37
So I'm really curious as to how many people would take advantage of this, I mean or use it, not take advantage of it, but use it. 01:38:44
I mean that would be something to see. I'm I'm curious to see that you know? 01:38:49
I I always makes me wonder, well, homeless people, you know, if they're. 01:38:55
Off the grid for a reason maybe? 01:38:59
You know, or some of them just struggling and trying to get back on their feet, Which documents like you're willing to help them 01:39:02
with is a huge plus. So this will be something. 01:39:07
Kind of cool to watch and see how it does for you. Yeah, absolutely. And we'll we'll be starting to have metrics that we can bring 01:39:13
back to also let you know how successful it's been. We would appreciate an update. Thank you that I'd entertain a motion and Mr. 01:39:19
Chairman, if I may add this one and that's the people in the past and my self included. 01:39:25
There's been a stigma for homelessness, but. 01:39:31
The things have changed quite a bit now to where people that don't want to be homeless are becoming that way or they're becoming 01:39:33
in this transitional state. 01:39:38
Either of their rent, they're they're renting something they can't afford any longer, they've lost something like their car and 01:39:42
they can't fix it, then they can't go to work that it's just a big thing. So anyway, I thank you for that comment. And with that, 01:39:49
I'll make the move to approve a memorandum of understanding with the Homeless ID project. 01:39:57
Incorporated as presented. 01:40:04
Mr. Chair, I'll second that having a motion. And second, all in favor, do so by saying aye, Aye, aye, Motion carries. Thank you. 01:40:08
Honda L Information Discussion Action to adopt the Fiscal Year 24 Proposed Salary Salary Plan Positively affecting. 01:40:17
All 459 of the county's full time employees and utilizing. 01:40:27
$1,504,716.00 of available budget capacity to implement the Fiscal Year 24 salary plan. 01:40:32
Effective the first full period period in 24. 01:40:43
Man, that's a mouthful. 01:40:47
Good morning, Mr. Chair. 01:40:51
Supervisor Humphrey, Supervisor Christensen. 01:40:52
We did use the computer to do the math. There was number black box involved and the numbers that went in matched the numbers that 01:40:56
came out and they were verified by at least three other professionals in the room. 01:41:01
When we brought you our. 01:41:09
Our proposed budget a couple of weeks ago and. 01:41:11
And as we talked about a variety of things preparing the budget this year. 01:41:15
We talked about what capacity was available for. 01:41:19
Creating a. 01:41:23
Wage increase. 01:41:25
Positively affecting as many of our staff as possible. 01:41:27
The plan that we have come up with that's illustrated here. 01:41:31
Positively affects all 459 full time regular employees here at Gila County. 01:41:34
It uses $1,504,716.00 of available capacity. 01:41:40
Of that. 01:41:47
Just over 1,008,000 is from the general fund. 01:41:48
And then 496,000 would come from the special revenue fund. 01:41:52
This also includes enough funding to cover the benefits linked to those those salary increases. 01:41:56
Included in the calculation was making sure that the lowest pay grade would come up to $15.00 an hour. That's $1.20 per hour 01:42:07
increase from our current lowest pay rate of 1380. 01:42:14
We are working to make sure that the separation between pay grades is 2 1/2 percent. 01:42:22
And that that systematically increases as we go up through the pay grades. 01:42:29
And. 01:42:34
That it create that it works to reduce compression. 01:42:35
We also know that there are additional challenges with compression and. 01:42:39
On paper performance. 01:42:44
So in addition to this 1,500,000 that we're talking about. 01:42:46
To be effective the first full pay period in July, we also are proposing to build in 1.6%. 01:42:52
To be used at the departmental level. 01:43:01
And I don't mean. 01:43:04
To give free rein to department directors, I mean to. 01:43:06
And to ensure that each department can have. 01:43:09
Have capacity for pay, for performance and to ameliorate compression issues. 01:43:13
Umm. 01:43:18
We would talk later about. 01:43:19
What exactly those criteria were, But we wanted to make sure that this discussion came to you separate from next week's final 01:43:22
budget adoption. 01:43:26
So that not only could you have a conversation about it, but you could also. 01:43:30
Um, have documentation now and for the future, for all your constituents and for all the staff. 01:43:36
That these considerations were taken seriously, that that we looked at all of these items. 01:43:41
And took your consideration seriously. We've been talking about the budget for five months now. 01:43:48
And we we worked as closely as we could with everybody we could to come up with this. 01:43:53
So the base adjustment pay for all employees is 4.9% with this. 01:44:00
Then there's a second layer. 01:44:05
That would ensure that the minimum salary increase. 01:44:07
Would be $3000 for the year. 01:44:11
So. 01:44:13
What that works out to is any employee making less than. 01:44:14
Right now making less than $61,225. 01:44:18
Will receive the minimum $3000 annual increase. 01:44:22
And then the salary increases range from 9.75% to 4.9%. 01:44:26
And some of the. 01:44:33
Salaries on the the lower end, closer to entry level, needed a little bit more adjustment, so we worked together with. 01:44:35
With staff to develop that. 01:44:42
That range. So we're here to answer any questions for you and to give you whatever other information we might. 01:44:46
Be able to provide. 01:44:52
Thank you, Mayor. 01:44:56
That's a lot to think about here in the next minute. 01:44:58
Supervisor Healthy. 01:45:01
Mr. Thank you. Yeah, I I looked over this and and there was an awful lot of thought. 01:45:04
The and in two. 01:45:09
These calculations I mean, when I looked at it, I I was pretty impressed with. 01:45:11
Of of the thought that went in of all of the different. 01:45:16
Ranges that you had to deal with with the minimum wage and on up. So I I just appreciate all the. 01:45:20
But you know, you could have thrown something together to put to us and you, didn't you, you you put an awful lot of thought and 01:45:27
effort into this and appreciate it very much. And I'm sure that the employees will as well. I wish I could take credit for it. 01:45:33
There were 11 different iterations, Mr. Menlo. 01:45:38
Was super helpful in in addressing all the nuances. 01:45:45
My plan was not nearly this elegant or or well thought out so. 01:45:49
It it is definitely a product of teamwork and I'm really, really fortunate to work with great people who. 01:45:54
Who put a lot of time and effort into this? 01:45:59
OK, then I won't give you all the credit as I you thought I did before. 01:46:02
They. 01:46:08
Thank, thank everyone that worked on this and maybe we need to get them a little plaque and have them stand up front employee of 01:46:09
the year or something, but thank you very much. 01:46:14
Supervisor Christensen, Yes, thank you Chairman and thank you Mayor. And and I'll just say thank you. We're credited due. 01:46:20
And I think it is a good plan and I'm just going to ask and you can just give me a round about you if if you know so on this 01:46:26
second layer minimum pay adjustment 3000 would be. 01:46:32
The minimum. 01:46:38
Amount someone would get. How many employees does that affect? 01:46:41
The employees, would that be 102 hundred? I think it's almost 300, but I'd have to look at the list at 2:30. So it's it's a. 01:46:47
Vast majority of all vascularity, right? Or at least 50%. So OK, good. Here's more closer It's over 60 percent, 60%. It is a 01:46:57
significant number of employees that. 01:47:03
Yeah, I'm glad to see that. Thank you. 01:47:10
Thank you, Mayor. Thank you James and everybody else I Yeah. 01:47:12
And if we can help more people, especially at the bottom end, I know you know that's where my heart is, is at the lower levels, 01:47:18
not at the top, so. 01:47:22
But thank you very much for what you put together. I appreciate it. 01:47:26
That I didn't take a motion. 01:47:30
Mr. Chair, I moved to adopt. 01:47:33
The FY20 24 salary plan. 01:47:35
As presented, I will second that having a motion, and second all in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye, motion carries. 01:47:40
Thank you, Mayor. And you got one another one. So. 01:47:49
Him Information, Discussion Action to Adopt Fiscal Year 24, Full Cost Allocation Plan, and CFR Code of Federal Regulations. 01:47:53
Cost allocation plan man. 01:48:01
Good morning again, Mr. Chair, Supervisor Christensen, Supervisor Humphrey. 01:48:04
I put together a PowerPoint for this and then looked at the agenda and thought, there's no way you're going to want to sit through 01:48:09
another one. 01:48:12
So. 01:48:15
Today I will keep it short. We expected to have printed copies for you today, and they have not come in yet. 01:48:16
Each one is about this thick, and you'd each get two of them, so. 01:48:22
When those come in, we will distribute them to you. 01:48:27
This is. 01:48:30
Effectively a scientific distribution of the complete cost of running the county across all the functions of what the county does. 01:48:32
We have an obligation under federal regulation. 01:48:41
To. 01:48:45
Maintain a cost allocation plan. 01:48:46
To have that done by a professional firm. 01:48:49
So Seinfeld Meech has prepared the one that we received. 01:48:52
And are hoping to adopt. Today there are two versions. The full version does all the costs across the whole county. 01:48:56
The CFR version is the one that is based on the Code of Federal Regulations and limits some of the expenses that can be allocated. 01:49:03
But it dictates what we calculate it cost to run a grant or program. So that when we apply for a grant or program, instead of 01:49:12
saying that we'll take the 10% de minimis, we can say what the actual administrative cost is. 01:49:21
And then that information gets passed on to the grantor. 01:49:31
And then we can go back and forth on it. We do have a couple of Grand Tours who are waiting for us to approve the CFR plan so that 01:49:34
they can approve. 01:49:39
Those programs budgets for next year. 01:49:45
So we're bringing this to you today for your approval. 01:49:48
Should you choose to approve it, we can then have a meeting with leadership and department heads. 01:49:52
Sharing the information, making sure everybody has. 01:49:58
What they need to go out to their grant agencies. 01:50:01
And then this documentation also. 01:50:05
Ensures. 01:50:08
That when? 01:50:09
You as the Board of Supervisor and Mr. Menlo choose to have a conversation about. 01:50:11
Umm. 01:50:16
Whether something is cost effective, you know exactly what those metrics should be, and you have an external source. 01:50:17
To identify that. 01:50:24
And this is unfortunately our last year of using Heimfeld Niche. They are not going to be doing cost allocation plans after this 01:50:26
year. So we will be coming back to you probably in the next three months. 01:50:31
To ask to go out to advertise for bids for next year's. 01:50:36
OK. Thank you, man. 01:50:41
Supervisor Humphrey questions. I have no questions. The supervisor Christensen, thank you, no questions. James, do you have 01:50:43
something you want to chime in on here? 01:50:48
Since you gave me the opportunity, I will. 01:50:54
Take it. 01:50:56
Several months ago, that may have been 5-6 months ago, that Mister O'Driscoll presented to you a discussion of potentially what do 01:50:58
we charge for services? 01:51:03
This plan. 01:51:08
Defines delineates. 01:51:10
What the cost of the services that we are providing to external entities? 01:51:12
And also internal entities of what we can charge a grant. For a lot of our grants, we do not charge any indirect cost, even though 01:51:18
there's money in the budget for that. 01:51:23
So without getting too long winded I hope. 01:51:29
That we will be bringing this back for you with the detail of. 01:51:31
What? 01:51:35
We can legitimately, as a county, charged for services. 01:51:37
Has a potential. 01:51:41
Revenue source for Healey County. 01:51:43
Now we're not gonna recommend that we need to charge or not charge, and there's some articles in the newspaper. 01:51:46
What should we charge? 01:51:51
None of that. 01:51:53
We just need to be aware of what those amounts are. 01:51:54
And then make the conscious decision. 01:51:58
I'm a financial direction that we go with account. 01:52:01
So that's what all this, all this work, and like she said, it's about this much documentation in the in the final report form. 01:52:04
So I think that's a good thing, you know and and for this I think it's good to show and talk about the fact that which I would 01:52:12
just gas off the top of my head a lot of it'll be contributed costs to some. 01:52:17
Somebody. Some. 01:52:24
Other branch, some other. Whoever may be, you know we've. 01:52:25
We've we've helped people out with space and everything else for a lot of years. 01:52:29
And. 01:52:34
And so this is a this is good to show that, hey, you know? 01:52:36
This is what the county is putting into this program, or programs or whatever it may be so. 01:52:40
I appreciate. I appreciate seeing those costs. 01:52:45
Not to say that all vote to use them other than contributed, but I. 01:52:48
Not I'm tender for that purpose. Yeah. Thank you, James. 01:52:53
So with that, I entertain a motion, Mr. Chairman, I'll move to adopt the fiscal year 2024 full cost. 01:52:56
Allocation Plan and Code of Federal Regulations Cost Allocation Plan as presented. 01:53:02
Mr. Chair, I'll second that having a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye. Motion carries on to 01:53:08
Ian. 01:53:12
Information Discussion Action to award the following contracts in response to invitation for bids number. 01:53:17
041823 01:53:24
or Topsy Transport services as outlined in a cost sheet for each contract. 01:53:26
Contract number 041823 A to Zen. 01:53:32
LLC, DBA Sanders Family Transport. 01:53:37
In an amount not to exceed $50,000 for the period of July 1st 23. 01:53:43
Through June 30th. 01:53:49
24 and contract number 04/1. 01:53:50
823 B and Lamont Mortuary of Globe and an amount not to exceed $50,000 for the period of July 1st, 23 through June 30th, 24. 01:53:54
Thank you Mr. Chair, Supervisor Christensen, Supervisor Humphrey. We received two bids for our autopsy transport services. 01:54:06
Each of the responding bidders included various responses. 01:54:15
For the communities. 01:54:22
Within Heela County, so we analyzed each. 01:54:24
Communities response individually and then determined to issue 2 contracts. 01:54:28
To be the best stewards of resources. 01:54:35
So those. 01:54:38
Contracts split in a way that Lamont Mortuary will be providing the most cost effective service for Roosevelt, San Carlos and 01:54:39
Dripping Springs. 01:54:44
And. 01:54:49
8 to 10 DBA Sanders Family Transport will be providing service for the other communities listed here for HeLa County. 01:54:51
The cost does include transport and a regular duty transport bag. 01:54:59
OK. Thank you man. Surprise to Humphrey. 01:55:06
I have no questions I I guess. I guess that the. 01:55:10
Contract award. 01:55:14
Entities. 01:55:16
Are happy by by splitting this instead of just having one do all. 01:55:18
We have in the current or the most recent year, we split them across the entities based on on cost, responsibility so. 01:55:25
They always have the option to decline the contract if they if they choose, Yeah, no, I. 01:55:37
I think it, I think it's great that if if they work together to help us perform the duties that we need to perform that that's a 01:55:42
good thing. 01:55:46
Supervisor Christensen, Thank you, Chairman, and thank you Mayor. No, I have nothing. 01:55:51
So I know Lamont is local. Is the other one local as well? I believe they're in Apache Junction. 01:55:56
OK, you can see them when they're in town, you can see their van and it like the back of their car, says Afterlife Specialists on 01:56:02
it. 01:56:06
It you will be singing in the Ghostbusters song in your head. 01:56:11
For a while after you see it, because you won't, you can't Unsee it. 01:56:14
But there they are, frequently in town. 01:56:18
Will just orbit understand? They're not related to me. No, They are who they are where they are. They're not related to me. No, I 01:56:21
can vote on this one. 01:56:25
Alright, I didn't gain a motion. 01:56:29
Mr. I moved to award 2 contracts in response to amputation for bid number 0418. 01:56:32
2/3 as follows. 01:56:39
Contract number 04182382. Zen. 01:56:42
LLC Eva Sanders Family Transfer. 01:56:48
Port. 01:56:52
And contract number 041823 B Tillemont Mortuary of Globest presented. I will second. 01:56:53
Having a motion and second all in favor this so by saying aye aye aye motion carries. 01:57:00
Man, thank you, Thank you. 01:57:06
Onto OHH Information discussion Action to approve Amendment number one to Contract number 100521 Dash Landscaping Services for 01:57:08
Hella Proud Dash Hwy. 60 Cleanup and Maintenance Project in the Amount of. 01:57:16
$132,500 for the period of July 1st 23 through June 30th 24 Amy. 01:57:24
OK. Thank you, Chairman. The supervisors? 01:57:32
I feel like I've been up here a lot for this, so. 01:57:35
I'm thankful that to bring you. 01:57:38
Request for approval of Amendment #1. 01:57:40
For the landscaping services for Helen Pratt. And that's just to continue with Allegiance builders in the work that they've done 01:57:43
this past year. 01:57:46
And so amendment number one to the contract that we had for 22. 01:57:51
OK. 01:57:56
Supervisor Humphrey. 01:57:57
Well, I I, I have quite a few questions, but I'm sure you probably can't answer most of them for me. So I'll, I'll leave it alone. 01:57:59
Yeah. My questions would be more of the contractor, not not the contract. 01:58:05
But anyway. 01:58:12
I'll, I'll let that go. Thank you. I would be happy to put you guys together so that you can at least ask. Well won't do much good 01:58:14
after this is approved or not approved. So anyway that's that's OK that's OK. 01:58:20
Sweet. 01:58:27
We are having a meeting but it will still be up to the approval and he was present at one of our meetings but. 01:58:28
It was so long that he we didn't end up OK. 01:58:34
Trying to make sure you good. 01:58:39
Sure. 01:58:43
Supervision. 01:58:44
Thank you. I have no questions. 01:58:47
So, so this is Amendment #1 going forward in this deal. So I guess the prior work that. 01:58:50
Folks have done for us. 01:58:56
Is satisfactory, is that what we're saying? 01:58:58
That was what I understood from the work session that it was that we were to move ahead because it was satisfactory. OK. I would 01:59:02
be happy to. If there are questions I I want to take them to our contractor. 01:59:07
And if there needs to be improvements, we need to address those. 01:59:13
Don't I, I guess just one question, Mr. Chair. Yeah, go ahead. 01:59:17
And and there are other entities. 01:59:20
Paying into this contract. 01:59:23
For this company. 01:59:26
At at this point that for FY20 22 there have been but on Thursday at 2:00 PM we have a meeting here with those partners and. 01:59:28
And we'll be addressing that and and the and the total amount of this service with our other people. Do we know that? 01:59:37
The total amount of 132,500. 01:59:45
That's the total amount that that's not what we pay that that that. No, no, the county pays 53,053 thousand, OK. 01:59:49
Alright. 01:59:59
Thank you. 02:00:02
So then, so we'll know if our other partners are going to chime in and help us out on this Thursday, later this week. Yes, and the 02:00:03
expectation is. 02:00:07
The positive one, OK. And I'm, I'm actually hoping for more because we're going to look at some other not just cleaning and 02:00:11
maintenance, but beautification as well. 02:00:16
So cool, we'll have that that meeting on Thursday. 02:00:20
James. 02:00:24
As chairman, that's who I don't be the meeting on Thursdays with our partners. So we're going to solidify the contributions and 02:00:26
the different people that are contributing to this. 02:00:31
As Amy says, 53,000 from HeLa County. The rest is coming from our partners. 02:00:36
Looking for that continuation. 02:00:41
We'd be glad to have you come on Tuesday Supervisor Humphrey to that meeting. I don't know if the vendor has been invited to that 02:00:44
meeting and invited he's been invited because maybe there would be good. I'm sure the other vendors are gonna have that 02:00:50
discussion. I'm sorry but Mr. Chair if I may, I mean here we're approving the total contract. We're only $53,000 of $132,000 02:00:56
contract and we don't know if our partners are agreeing to that yet. But we're we're approving the contract. So if we approve it 02:01:02
and the partners don't, did we just. 02:01:08
Approved to pay the $132,000 that they say April Fools and we're on the hook. 02:01:14
I I just that just doesn't sound. 02:01:20
Professional to me. 02:01:23
Hey. 02:01:26
I mean, I I'd be happy to approve $53,000. Is there a higher portion can delay this? 02:01:28
I'm sorry, Mr. Chairman. I don't see a reason we can't. 02:01:35
Delay of laughter. 02:01:38
As well after that meeting. 02:01:40
Miss Chairman, Let's see if we can. 02:01:42
Put this off until next week. 02:01:44
OK. Yeah, I just that just. 02:01:46
Set alarms up or a second option. 02:01:50
Mr. Chairman, Supervisor Humphrey is that you can make it. 02:01:53
Contingent. 02:01:56
On having. 02:01:58
How how much 70,000 of partners contributing to that so or or the things in Intermountain our amount is only 53,000 of. 02:02:00
Right of the 132. 02:02:11
Right. 02:02:15
Yeah, I I'm, I'm good with that. 02:02:16
Now, is there by chance that we would have more partners, step up to the plate and want to be a part of this program you think or 02:02:19
is anybody else looking at? 02:02:23
But the meeting is actually. 02:02:29
Part of the. 02:02:30
One of the things that we'll try to accomplish at the meeting is identifying more partners. 02:02:32
So it actually makes sense to do it that way. 02:02:37
Umm. 02:02:40
Are you good? 02:02:43
Kind of members, supervisors, yes, I'm good. You could make the motion contingent on the other partner support or you could 02:02:45
indicate that the county would pay up to that 53,000. 02:02:50
OK, I I I get a warm fuzzy feeling now. I didn't know. 02:02:56
Yeah. 02:03:01
You're good. 02:03:03
Alright, with that, I'd entertain a motion. 02:03:05
Mr. Chairman, I'll move to approve amendment number one to contract number 100521 in the amount totaling $132,500. 02:03:07
With the county Ohio counties portion not to exceed 53,000 as presented. 02:03:20
Mr. Chair, I'll second that motion. Having a motion second. All in favor. Do so by saying aye. Aye, Aye, aye. Motion carries. 02:03:27
Thank you, ladies. Thank you. Thank you. And I hope I didn't create any issues. OK. 02:03:33
On to PEE Information Discussion action. 02:03:39
To sell the surplus metal handicap ramp to Our Lady of the Blessed Sacrament Church located at 844 W Sullivan St. 02:03:43
Miami, Arizona 85539. 02:03:52
Illegal. 02:03:56
Nonprofit organization operating in the state of Arizona for the price of $20 and for the specific use of utilizing the handicap 02:03:58
ramp at the nonprofits location to allow better access by those who are disabled. And Mr. Humphrey, you are the presenter. 02:04:06
Yeah, Mr. Chair. As you know, Hitler County Fairgrounds is one of my pet. And cleaning it up it is another. And we've got a bone 02:04:14
yard out there that's really a bone yard. I mean, I don't know if you've seen it or not, but it's scary. 02:04:20
And and so we have some. 02:04:27
Pieces and portions out there that can be used for something other than scrap metal. 02:04:30
To benefit our community and people in our community. 02:04:37
And so that's why it's before you this morning. 02:04:42
To sell this for for $20. 02:04:46
To help the Blessed Sacrament Church. 02:04:50
With a handicap ramp and I'm not sure that work that's gonna take to put this together to do it, but but God love them for trying 02:04:55
to help us clean up the bone yard. 02:05:00
And and and put this to use to help the community. 02:05:05
And that that's that's my spiel. 02:05:10
Thank you Supervisor Christensen. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Thank you Supervisor Humphrey. I have no problem with this at all, but I 02:05:13
wanted to make sure that. 02:05:17
That we're going through the correct legal process here for moving this equipment out. 02:05:22
Ohh yes, chairman, Member, supervisors, Yes, these statutes have been complied with. The requirement here is that there would be 02:05:28
unanimous consent of the board to move forward without an auction in order to sell for property. 02:05:35
And so it would need to be unanimous. Also there would need to be a specification that this is for a specific use to be utilized 02:05:42
at the building as a handicap ramp. 02:05:47
OK. Thank you. 02:05:53
I'm good. How was mixed motion? 02:05:56
Mr. Chair, I move to sell the surplus metal handicap ramp to Our Lady. 02:05:59
Of the Blessed Sacrament Church. 02:06:06
In the amount of. 02:06:08
$20 as presented to be used for handicap room. 02:06:11
I will second that having a motion, and second all in favor do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye motion carries. 02:06:17
On the Queue information discussion Action to ratify the Board of Supervisors approval. 02:06:25
For the submittal of the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission, AC JC. 02:06:30
Fiscal Year 24 Crime Victim Compensation Program Grant Application. 02:06:35
Approve a CJC Fiscal Year 24 Crime Victim Compensation Program Grant Agreement number VC-2024-004. 02:06:41
In the amount of $71,426 for the period of July 1st, 23. 02:06:54
Through June 30th 24 and authorized the Board Chairman to electronically sign the agreement. 02:07:01
In the morning, I didn't know. It's good afternoon. Afternoon. Yes, good afternoon gentlemen. 02:07:07
Umm. 02:07:14
Not quite well. 02:07:17
We applied for this grant and we received this. 02:07:18
In the past, I'm talking about the past. We had applied for the grant. It would come in, then we would present it to the board for 02:07:22
approval. 02:07:27
Now it's all electronic. 02:07:31
So they approved it. 02:07:35
And whoever is supposed to sign it I'm sure already got it. 02:07:37
And that's why we're here. 02:07:41
So, and this is a grant that we apply for every year. 02:07:43
And we usually receive it every year. OK, thank you. Supervisor Humphrey. Questions, comments. I have no questions, Supervisor 02:07:47
questions, Sir, and I'm good as well. So with that, I'd entertain a motion. So I'll move to ratify this middle of the Arizona 02:07:55
Criminal Justice Commission fiscal year 2024 Crime Victim Compensation program grant application and approve the AC JC Fiscal year 02:08:02
2024 Crime Victim Compensation program grant agreement number VC-2024. 02:08:10
Dash 004 in the amount of $71,426 as presented. 02:08:18
I'll second that Mr. Chair having a motion. Second. All in favor. Do so by saying aye. Aye, aye, aye. Thank you. Motion passes. 02:08:24
Thank you. 02:08:28
On to our information discussion action. 02:08:33
Ratify the Board of Supervisors approval for the submittal of the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission. AC JC. 02:08:36
Fiscal Year 24 Drug gang and violent crime control grant application. 02:08:43
Approve CJC Fiscal Year 24 Drug Gang and Violent Crime Control Grant Agreement number. 02:08:49
DC-24-023. 02:08:56
In the amount of $91,758.81 for the period of July 1st, 23 through June 30th, 24 and authorized the Board Chairman to 02:08:59
electronically sign the agreement and Jessica. 02:09:05
Interested. 02:09:12
Yes, Chairman, Member supervisors. This is another grant that the Healey County Attorney's Office submits every year. It's been 02:09:13
effective for the past 30-6 years. 02:09:18
It is with the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission, Drug, Gang and Criminal Control. 02:09:23
The the grant will assist the funding for a full time prosecutor to work hand in hand with the task force and this the purpose of 02:09:29
the grant is to alleviate drug and violent crimes and throughout Hello County. 02:09:36
Now there is a small match and the state will contribute $31,197.99, the federal government will contribute $37,621.11 and the 02:09:42
match obligation by Healey County is $22,939.71. 02:09:52
And this would. 02:10:02
Mean that the Helix County Attorney's Office would have the ability to contribute $91,758.81 to that assigned prosecutor to work 02:10:04
hand in hand with the task force. 02:10:09
And I'm here for any questions. Thank you, Jessica. Supervisor Humphrey. 02:10:15
I have no question. 02:10:19
Super Supervisor Christian. Thank you, Jessica. No questions. You say we're good, We're good, We're good. I'll entertain a motion. 02:10:21
Thank you. 02:10:24
Mr. Chair, I moved to ratify the submittal of the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission. 02:10:28
Commissions. 02:10:34
AC JC Physical year 2024 Drug, gang and violent crime. 02:10:35
Control Grant application and approve the AC JC Physical Year 2024 Drug, Gang and Violent Crime Control Grant Agreement, number 02:10:41
DC-24-023. 02:10:48
In the amount of $91,758.81 as presented. 02:10:56
I will second that having a motion in a second. All in favor. Do so by saying aye, Aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. Thank you, 02:11:03
Jessica. 02:11:06
Auntie Yes, I will need a motion to adjourn as the HeLa County Board of Supervisors and convene as the HeLa County Library 02:11:11
District Board of Directors. So move Chairman. 02:11:15
I need a second. I'll second that motion. Second, all in favor. Do so by saying aye, aye, aye. Motion carries. 02:11:22
Information Discussion Action to Approve Library Service Agreements for Globe Public Library. 02:11:31
Isabel Hunt, Miami Payson Tunnel Basin. 02:11:37
And young public libraries for the period of July 1st, 23 to June 30th, 24 Elaine, good afternoon. I think someone's ready to go 02:11:41
home. 02:11:45
Good, good afternoon. I appreciate the time. This is our annual library service agreements that we contract with our seven 02:11:51
affiliate libraries to call cooperate in the provisions of libraries services. 02:11:57
So this isn't that. The district, these library service agreements, service contracts, or facilitating funds and resource sharing. 02:12:03
Currently we have six of the seven back. 02:12:09
And they are as mentioned before. So we ask that you approve the library service agreements or these libraries and I will answer 02:12:12
any questions. Thank you, Elaine, Supervisor Humphrey. I have no question. Supervisor Christian, so questions. Thank you. 02:12:18
And so which one are we waiting on? 02:12:25
We are waiting on San Carlos, OK? 02:12:29
Alright, with that I entertain a motion. Mr. Chair. I move to approve the Library service agreement. 02:12:32
Before you go Public Library, Isabelle Hunt, Miami Payson Tunnel Basin and Young public libraries as presented. 02:12:38
I will 2nd that I mean a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye aye aye motion carries on to T. 02:12:47
Information, discussion and action to approve a Library Service Agreement. 02:12:54
For Hayden Public Library, the period of July 1st 23 through June 30th 24 Elaine, HI, Mr. Chairman, Supervisors. 02:12:59
OK, because we run the Hayden library as a branch, I decided to do this as a separate agreement. 02:13:07
On the. 02:13:12
Agreement is provides the same funding, the same rubric that we've used in the past for all of the other libraries, with the 02:13:13
exception that we will have staff or our current employees. 02:13:19
The Town of Hayden provides the Library building free of charge to the Keeler County Library District. 02:13:24
And the town of Hayden is responsible for maintaining and ensuring the library property. 02:13:29
OK. Supervisor Humphrey. Mr. Chair, I have no questions. Supervisor Christian, thank you, Elaine, no questions. 02:13:34
Neither do I so that anything in motion. 02:13:42
Mr. Chair, I move to approve the library service agreement for the Hayden Public Libraries presented. Mr. Chair, I will second 02:13:45
that. Have them having a motion and a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye aye. 02:13:50
I motion carries. Thank you, Elaine. And I'll need a motion to adjourn as the HeLa County Library District Board of Directors and 02:13:56
reconvene as a Healer County Board of Supervisors. So moved, Mr. Chair. 02:14:02
All in favor, do so by saying aye, aye, aye, aye Motion carries. 02:14:08
On to #5 consent agenda action items. Do either of you have anything you want to talk about remove? 02:14:13
Do anything with no sure. 02:14:22
No, Sir. 02:14:24
So I need a motion to accept them. 02:14:25
OK. I will move to approve consent agenda items 4A through 5D. I'm sorry. 02:14:28
I move to approve consent agenda items 5A through 5D. 02:14:34
I'll second that having a motion in a second. All in favor, Diesel, by saying aye, aye. 02:14:41
Aye. 02:14:47
Tim and you, good bye. 02:14:48
Motion carries. 02:14:49
Number six, call to the public. Do we have any call the public impatient? Looks like you're it, Joseph. 02:14:51
Yep, no public up here. OK? How are we doing on YouTube? 02:14:57
Any comments how many are on there? 02:15:01
41 right on. 02:15:05
And I don't believe we have anyone here. So we'll move on to Seven at anytime during this meeting pursuant to ARS 38431.02 K. 02:15:08
We can give our updates and James, do you have any updates for us? 02:15:18
Mr. Chairman, I wanted to, if I could, take a few minutes. 02:15:23
Two weeks ago the Auditor General came and spoke about our audits, and I was. 02:15:28
On YouTube at the time and I just wanted to express appreciation. 02:15:33
To Marin and her team. 02:15:36
That they do a tremendous job. 02:15:38
And what she does. 02:15:41
And a lot of the struggles, a lot of things they have is we have a big county, a lot of employees, a lot of financial transactions 02:15:43
that are going through. 02:15:47
500 employees. 02:15:52
And sometimes, taking care of all of that is like herding cats. 02:15:54
Or or mice or whatever you want to call it, but. 02:15:59
Marian and her team does a tremendous job to get to the point of so many times if somebody out in in a department that doesn't 02:16:03
follow our established policies and procedures. 02:16:09
And Marin has to resort to cutting off a credit card or something that. 02:16:14
Can upset a an elected official or department director, but these things are critical. These things are important as they were 02:16:19
identified by the Auditor General. 02:16:23
And I appreciate Mayor and your team for. 02:16:27
Doing that for putting in the effort. 02:16:32
And having got us current and with our audits. 02:16:35
That's a tremendous effort, and I acknowledge her for all she does. 02:16:39
Secondly, I believe that while I was out that you were had an opportunity to be introduced to Kaylee. 02:16:44
With our community services department. 02:16:51
I I've asked her if she would. 02:16:53
And I I didn't. I didn't see that. I'm not sure how I missed it, but I didn't didn't see what she presented. So I've asked her 02:16:57
today if she would. 02:17:00
Tell us a little bit about herself where she's. 02:17:03
Where she came from? What? 02:17:07
Brought her to this point. 02:17:08
Of. 02:17:10
Be in our community services director here in Needham County because she's from the Midwest. 02:17:12
From. 02:17:17
Kansas, Illinois. Nationally known Illinois. 02:17:18
But. 02:17:22
The past couple of months she's she's been given a lot to do and a lot of. 02:17:26
Things that have required a lot of attention and has been mentioned in the past, like drinking. 02:17:31
Expecting drink from a water fountain and drinking from a fire hose. 02:17:36
Kaylee has been literally drinking from a fire hose and I've asked. 02:17:41
Mr. O'Driscoll, at times. 02:17:45
So she's not going anywhere. She's sticking with us and and we haven't scared her away yet and and. 02:17:47
Michael assures me that she's. 02:17:53
Sticking to a A1 word through interview process, we had internal, external candidates. 02:17:55
Kato was clearer than the one that was the right person for this job, even though she's growing up through the health department 02:18:01
and program manager in the health department. 02:18:05
Her skills, her talents and her abilities. 02:18:09
Have translated well to the community service department, so. 02:18:12
OK. Could you take a couple minutes and come on up, Kaylee, if that's OK, Miss Chairman absolutely is. 02:18:15
Tell us about you. Thank you. 02:18:22
Yeah, so I grew up in Illinois. I went to university in Indiana, where I got my Bachelors and masters degrees in public health, 02:18:25
which is how I found my way to the health department and Mr. School and and Mr. Beck. 02:18:32
And yeah, I I've always wanted to serve. 02:18:41
My community and I fell in love with you. The county. I grew up early, very rural in Illinois, so I feel right at home in. 02:18:45
In Heela County, in terms of you know what I want to do with the future of community services, I'm just really excited to be in a 02:18:53
position that helps our community. So I want to continue to do that and improve upon that. I just. 02:19:00
Want to highlight like the the good things that we do with weatherization, our diaper distribution program that's been. 02:19:07
Very successful thus far and then partnering with the health department and our dental services. 02:19:15
And. 02:19:21
In addition to that, just working with our community partners has been has been really great so far and I want to continue to do 02:19:22
that as well as help them to kind of find their own funding in addition to what we can do to help. 02:19:28
I'm very happy to be here. Good. 02:19:35
Supervisor Humphrey. 02:19:38
Yeah. I just want to say thank you very much. That's an important position. 02:19:40
Or Hillary County, because we have a lot of people that need a lot of help. 02:19:44
And I'm I met you at Melissa's Going away party, Was nice to meet you. And then I offered my assistance. 02:19:48
That's 27 years as a contractor knowledge and also as a supervisor. 02:19:56
And if you forgot, I just wanted to refresh you that if I can help in any way feel free to call. I appreciate that. Thank you, 02:20:01
Sir. Supervisor Christensen. Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, Kaylee. That's a real pleasure to have you in that position. 02:20:07
We have a lot of great employees and you're a great example of that. And so I look forward to working with you and I'll offer also 02:20:14
extend my offer if you need something. Let me know if we can help you. We're here to help. Thanks. 02:20:21
Same goes with me, Kaylee. Yeah, we're here to support you and. 02:20:28
Well, means that there's anything you need help with or whatever. Just reach out to us and and holler at us and. 02:20:33
Michael, whatever go through the chain, I guess. 02:20:39
Bring calls, direct tech. It gets it gets Michael's blood going in the mornings too so it's good for him. But anyway we're we're 02:20:43
glad to have you. You you do have a real important department there. We do have a lot of people that that we have helped through 02:20:50
all the years and so it's it's good to see you and have you in there. Thank you. 02:20:58
Thank you. 02:21:07
And I'm looking forward to Saturday. 02:21:09
Yeah. 02:21:11
I heard you're bringing lunch. 02:21:13
I'll get on that. 02:21:16
Just bring your card, It's alright. 02:21:19
Ohh. 02:21:21
I must be one of the rats that got shut off. Welcome back, Jay, but to be here. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Members of Board, Thank 02:21:25
you, Supervisor Humphrey. 02:21:30
I'm good. Updates. You're good. Supervisor Christensen. With what am I good? I don't know. Yeah, tell us. This is our report, 02:21:35
right? Yeah. OK. I just wanted to let you know that on the 4th I went to a reading of the Constitution at Green Valley Park. 02:21:43
They do that annually. That was interesting. And then also was on the radio K rim. I'll be on Cam watching next week. 02:21:52
And then also. 02:21:58
I met with 606 people concerned about our rural water, rural groundwater. OK, so. 02:22:01
Rural counties have groundwater for the most part, not surface water, and so we just basically discussed some of the identifying 02:22:09
the pros and cons of different ways of looking at how we might be able to protect that and one of those. 02:22:17
Protective things is a is something called the local groundwater stewardship. 02:22:26
Stewardship area. 02:22:31
And so we had a good discussion. 02:22:32
Thank you. 02:22:35
Thank you. And so I was in that same meeting only a little later since we couldn't be in the same time, but. 02:22:37
It was a it was a good conversation. Water has always been. Yes, she still is and probably will be forever. But. 02:22:44
So there's proposals and ideas coming out from the state level that I think is a county we we probably should be. 02:22:51
Involved with and, but we'll see where it goes. Craig Sullivan is on that board. 02:22:59
And I trust Craig. 02:23:04
100% and so. 02:23:06
So it's gonna be kind of interesting where that's gonna go, what what is gonna come out of it. But anyway. 02:23:08
What I have mostly is what I'm doing from here on out through this month, but. 02:23:15
Next Wednesday after the board meeting, I'll be going to DC to testify Thursday before the House of Natural Resource Committee, 02:23:21
and that's for the vet Center in Young. 02:23:26
So what they're doing is that bill is coming up now, is coming up in the House 1st and that's the resources. 02:23:32
And Senator or Congressman Crane has asked me to come out there and testify for that. 02:23:38
So I will be doing that and then. 02:23:43
That afternoon, once that is over, I'll be catching a plane for Austin, TX for the nickel conference or either one of you guys 02:23:46
going to the nickel conference. 02:23:50
So that's in Austin, TX. They'll be there. We'll you're going, you're gonna fly straight into. 02:23:54
Austin But we'll be there till Monday. Finally back. 02:24:00
And anyway, so this. 02:24:03
Naturally natural resource. 02:24:08
Committee meeting there. 02:24:11
I have high hopes for this. It seems like this this bill that the Senate and the House has put it in their force on on the vet 02:24:13
site is really gaining traction and starting to move. 02:24:18
And so I really hope it keeps up. 02:24:24
Things come out of it and we actually get it. 02:24:27
To us by the end of the year, that would be really awesome if we could do that. And it seems like there's a lot of interest in it 02:24:31
and a lot of excitement in it. 02:24:35
And so I'm really looking forward to that. 02:24:39
Tomorrow me and Kathy are gonna meet with the YC crew that's a county had put in place with the four service to work with the four 02:24:42
service. 02:24:46
And they've been traveling around the district, different districts, working and and doing an awesome job. 02:24:51
And so tomorrow we're gonna meet with them along with Long with it. 02:24:57
Has gone on conservation. 02:25:01
Core 2. 02:25:03
Who who is in charge of them? 02:25:04
So it looks like they've done an outstanding job and have been involved in a lot of different projects. 02:25:06
Which is really cool. So we'll get to talk to him about all that. 02:25:12
And. 02:25:15
This coming up weekend is the soft opening for the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat. 02:25:17
It is Saturday from 11:00 to 3:00. 02:25:23
And they'll be right there. It'll start at the main building and I assume you guys are gonna be there, right? 02:25:27
Cool. Good deal. 02:25:32
And we're gonna have a lot of people. I've. I'm expecting to show up there. The only representative that I know of right now in 02:25:34
person is is Congressman Gosar. 02:25:39
Last I heard, he's planning on being there. 02:25:45
Senator Kelly, Congressman Crane. 02:25:48
We're gonna have staff from their offices that'll be there and then. 02:25:52
Whoever else, I don't know. I think Senator Rogers is is planning on being there. 02:25:56
Representative Marshall will be there. 02:26:04
David Marshall will be there. 02:26:06
And we're going to present him with a little. 02:26:09
Gift from us from the county on his help in this project as well so. 02:26:11
Lot of invites went out. We'll just see who all filters in, but I'm expecting there to be quite a few people. It's looking good, 02:26:18
the facilities. 02:26:23
Department and contractors are really hustling around there right now, trying to get everything in order and ready for Saturday. 02:26:27
And it's looking out outstanding as far as the site goes. 02:26:34
So that's. 02:26:38
I think we're gonna be in good shape. Also during that there will be a shirt and hats for sale. 02:26:39
Kathy. 02:26:48
Kathy weren't modeled these so. 02:26:49
Anyway, this is the hat. 02:26:51
Says. 02:26:53
Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat on the front of it. 02:26:54
And. 02:26:57
This this would be the shirt. 02:26:59
And the same thing, it has Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat on the front of it as well. So these will be there for sale, plus I 02:27:01
think there's going to be. 02:27:06
Some flags and some other stuff, right? That's gonna be there for for for the low, low cost stuff? 02:27:10
Have to ask the marketing agent, marketing agent the cost of the hat and shirt. 02:27:16
OK. And the proceeds go to the nonprofit for the veterans? 02:27:25
OK, yeah, it didn't hurt that that was good that you put that in there because now everybody owns them. 02:27:29
To bring cash with them to eBay to donate? You bet. So. 02:27:36
And like I said, there's gonna be some other stuff there that's gonna be for sale, some little flags and and some other things as 02:27:40
well. 02:27:43
Um. 02:27:47
And other than now, the county summers work program ends this Friday. 02:27:48
This will be the end of it. 02:27:53
And I haven't heard anything bad about it, so I would assume everything went well this summer with the kids and. 02:27:55
And everything. And hopefully we can have even a bigger crew next year. That would be awesome. 02:28:01
I think 53 was our total this year, right? 02:28:07
Not counting the YC crew. 02:28:09
Yeah. 02:28:12
So that that's pretty good numbers and if we can beat that next year that would be better. 02:28:13
Hummer. 02:28:18
Yeah. 02:28:19
Sharpen that pencil. We need more money. 02:28:21
There you go. Alright. And then Thursday I have an NRCD meeting and that'll be at the butcher hook at 9:00. O'clock. Are you gonna 02:28:25
come by there for the NRC meeting or twin? 02:28:30
Thursday. 02:28:36
Thursday This Thursday. 02:28:37
OK. It's posted. OK. Thank you. 02:28:41
And then the next one of course will be in pacing up there next month, so. 02:28:43
And with that, that's all I had, did that. 02:28:49
Juggy either one of you for anything else. 02:28:52
No, Mr. Chair, just normal stuff. Meetings I had meeting and I still on Saturday meeting at. 02:28:56
Umm. 02:29:02
Roosevelt yesterday was on the radio yesterday. 02:29:04
Miami Town Hall. 02:29:09
Yesterday. 02:29:11
And so just just just normal meetings and other than that, everything's fine at the CAG meeting. 02:29:12
There was a representative there. 02:29:22
From our governor's office and so went over some stuff with Ella County on that. 02:29:24
Umm. 02:29:29
And so other than that, I'm good. 02:29:31
The deal Supervisor Christiansen. You're good going fine. I'll just call for ask for 5 minutes after this movie. 02:29:34
Oh, OK. I missed before we get into the work session, Ohh, you need a break is that you're saying, OK, we can do that. So anyway, 02:29:42
with that, that concludes our meeting for that and we'll take a 5 minute break and then come back for the work session and get it 02:29:49
over in about 3 minutes, maybe sooner than that because I don't see any. Ohh, there's Carl, you got 3 minute presentation, right? 02:29:56
22 Right on. OK. Well, thank you. We don't need 5 minutes, baby. I'll give you 5 minutes. We'll take a 5 minute break and it ain't 02:30:04
gonna go well. Guarantee. 02:30:09
Eight, I think it is. 02:30:16
Carl, Are you ready? 02:30:18
Yeah. 02:30:20
Yeah. We'll move on to a a information discussion seeking guidance, guidance. 02:30:21
To best allocate the funds from the conventionally. 02:30:26
Directed Earmark award of $609,000 to be used for maintaining water storage systems for wildfire protection. 02:30:29
In HeLa County with the understanding that this funding comes with a 1 to one match. 02:30:38
Of $609,000 for Hewlett County. 02:30:43
That can be in cash, in kind activities, or a combination of both. 02:30:46
For the period of March 22nd through September 25. 02:30:50
Welcome, Carl. Thank you. 02:30:54
Good afternoon. Good afternoon, Chairman and members of the board. 02:30:56
I'm really excited to be kind of on the home stretch of this project. 02:30:59
And also delight, Delighted to say that everything so far has come in much cheaper than expected. So just wanted to give you some 02:31:04
updates on this project. Once again, I'm honored to be taking this project as it was initially kicked off by the late, great Tommy 02:31:10
Martin. So I feel a sense of pride in being able to kind of pick up where she left off and keep this going. 02:31:15
Um, so I looked into. 02:31:22
The tank replacements spoke with our fire chiefs and they also have a Chief Morris on the line who will chime in towards the end 02:31:25
of of this item. 02:31:28
Um. 02:31:32
We've got the tanks specked out. They're going to be about. 02:31:33
Baseline 88 feet 6 inches wide by 12 foot 7 inches tall, four at each site. 02:31:37
Um. 02:31:45
Spec wise. 02:31:46
They ended up coming out to be 4. 02:31:49
The installation of the tanks, which is just going to be the contractors delivering the tanks. 02:31:52
Leveling the land laying little granite to avoid erosion. 02:31:57
Um, for the installation of 56 tanks, that's going to come out to be about $68,246. 02:32:01
Uh, the tank costs themselves for 56 tanks would be $397,000 or excuse me. 02:32:08
329,000 dollars 100 and. 02:32:15
65. 02:32:19
Uh so. 02:32:20
Total for 56 tanks $397,411.34 that is installation and the purchase of the tanks, everything. 02:32:22
There will be no aftermarket plumbing. The company is going to do that. That's providing the tanks. So that saves the warranty. So 02:32:32
there will be a five year warranty on these tanks. 02:32:36
If we decided to go a little further, I did provide a quote for 70 tanks which would give us 14 auxiliary tanks. These 14 02:32:42
auxiliary tanks could be used for. 02:32:48
Providing to our fire districts that have their own bladder sites to replace their bladders that could be used to create 02:32:55
additional sites. 02:32:59
Or even to offsets or increase capacity at any of the existing sites. So if we were to go forward with doing 70 tanks, so that's. 02:33:02
The cost of that would be the installation. 02:33:14
The 56 tanks to be deployed. 02:33:17
And the 14 auxiliary tanks to be available for the county's use at their discretion. 02:33:19
That total cost would be $479,675.20. 02:33:25
So I mean less than. 02:33:32
$100,000 difference for having the. 02:33:34
The 14 auxiliary tanks that are are used for our discretion. 02:33:37
So um. 02:33:41
Before I bring to you guys the final. 02:33:43
Final purchase I I'd like to get a consensus on which direction that we'd like to go. 02:33:45
Um, if you're interested in in, you know, making the most of the money and having the 14 tanks available for for use in the 02:33:51
future. 02:33:55
That option is there. Or if we'd like to go with the smaller option and get just what is necessary, that option is available for 02:34:00
you as well, and I will bring that to you at the next available meeting. 02:34:05
I have Chief Morris on the line. Chief, are you are you here? 02:34:11
Yes, I'm here. Can you hear me OK? Yeah, Yeah. You wanted to add some some thoughts. So our Chief more should go ahead. 02:34:16
OK. Thank you very much, Karen. Board of Supervisors, appreciate you letting me come on board here today. I'm over at a conference 02:34:23
here in Glendale for the Arizona Fire Chiefs and Arizona Fire District Association. So kind of miss out on a couple of the 02:34:30
presenting speakers today. Want to let you know that most of our area other than. 02:34:37
What is in Star Valley? 02:34:44
Is all what we call a tender operation, meaning that we only have readily available the water that's on our fire truck as we 02:34:46
respond to the scene. 02:34:51
Our captains have to make the determination. 02:34:56
If we need additional water to be able to be brought to the scene, and if we do that, then we have to request. 02:34:59
Via radio to have another entity respond with a tender with they'll have 2000 or 3000 gallons of water. It would be hubris or be 02:35:06
better for us. 02:35:13
If we were able to have a. 02:35:20
Source of water that like 10,000 gallons that would help us out to be able to battle a lot of these fires. 02:35:23
No. 02:35:30
Case in point. 02:35:31
Is you may have been aware of the. 02:35:33
Gasoline tanker fire that we had on Friday evening. 02:35:36
On 87 that closed down the highway for several hours. We had a hazmat assignment, we had a wildland fire, we had a vehicle fire 02:35:39
all at the same time and it basically took every resource that we had available in northern Heela County to be able to fight that 02:35:45
along with getting mutual aid. 02:35:52
Units from Prescott and other areas. 02:35:58
To be able to battle this fire, we were able to get tenders on scene, but it literally takes us about 45 minutes to an hour to be 02:36:01
able to get that there. 02:36:06
So it it would be nice I do have bladders in our area along with the other fire chiefs. 02:36:11
From other districts. 02:36:17
But these bladders, as you're very well aware of, are failing. 02:36:19
And I've had a couple of failures at this point that we have no replacement for them. 02:36:22
Thank you, Chief. 02:36:31
OK. 02:36:34
Ready for questions? Comments. 02:36:35
Always supervised Humphrey. 02:36:38
Yeah, I I I guess I don't have a lot of questions. I have comments and and yeah, I mean we we. 02:36:41
We have fire issues and we have rule. 02:36:48
Communities, we have rural areas. 02:36:52
And so that's what started all these bladders. So I I I think more tanks is is better. 02:36:55
And where they're placed, I think that would be something that we could get ahold of our fire chiefs. 02:37:01
And things of that nature to see where they might be best located. 02:37:08
Because, like Gazella, it has a little Volunteer Fire Department, but I mean, it's only got so much resource. 02:37:13
And so if say 4 service came to help. 02:37:20
Then force service would have an available water source. 02:37:24
To help them fight fires, even residential fires. 02:37:28
If they were to break out, then if that's all you have on your truck, you're you're pretty much done. 02:37:33
But you know, like Deer Creek Village. 02:37:39
You know Guy Silas, some of some of the small residential districts or or or communities that I have in my district. 02:37:42
You know, I I would like to maybe have an opportunity to help them. 02:37:52
With available water, even though they don't have a Volunteer Fire Department. 02:37:57
If the forest is threatened, Forest Service is gonna show up and it would be nice for them to have. 02:38:02
Available water for some of these residential areas, but even even the Ridge Belt Resort, the Estates and I, and I'm sure once we 02:38:07
start looking at this, if we have 14 extra tanks, that's not going to be enough. 02:38:15
Because everybody's got areas like this that that doesn't really have. 02:38:23
A major. 02:38:29
Amount of water to fight fires. 02:38:31
So like I said, with with the input perhaps probably from our fire chiefs. 02:38:34
Or even forcers to see where it might help. 02:38:40
Them and. 02:38:45
Some of this prevention. 02:38:47
If they had available water, so then we could maybe look and and. 02:38:49
See which would be the best. 02:38:55
Options of places to place some of these. 02:38:58
Ohh, thank you supervisor. I definitely appreciate the support there and. 02:39:02
There. 02:39:07
If the board would like me to come forward with me, possibly even a higher number of of auxiliary tanks extra. 02:39:08
I could do that. I'm sure the tank company would have no problem giving us a quote with a larger number on it. 02:39:15
But. 02:39:21
Just to give a kind of an example of how much room we have here. 02:39:22
With the the 70 tank purchase including the installation of the the 56 initially. 02:39:26
That puts us at $479,675 we have. 02:39:32
With a 50% match of course upwards of 1.18 million. 02:39:38
So we we have room. 02:39:44
So if that's something that we'd like to get, you know, maybe a stash of of tanks that the county could use at its discretion, 02:39:46
whether it be. 02:39:50
Creating sites, providing them to the fire districts to have more water on hand at their locations. 02:39:54
It it leaves us with options and not a a tight time frame if we purchase additional tanks for the county to own. Mr. Chair if I 02:40:00
may it like I said it would be. 02:40:05
I I think it would be good to have meetings. 02:40:11
Or a meeting? 02:40:14
With with the fire chiefs and force service and and see what what they felt. 02:40:15
Or or what? 02:40:21
The availability to them. 02:40:23
Where where would they, what would they feel? And then after that discussion, we would probably know more. 02:40:26
Of. 02:40:32
What tanks would be available and? 02:40:33
And if we're having them installed, I mean rather than sit at the boneyard. 02:40:36
For her eight, just in case. I, you know, I mean if if we're really going to use them, I would like to see. 02:40:41
Where we could strategically put them. 02:40:47
To. 02:40:50
To better. 02:40:51
Serve the communities. 02:40:53
That we represent. 02:40:55
And I think the people that fight fires in those. 02:40:57
Areas. 02:41:00
Would would probably be beneficial in in helping. 02:41:02
With firefighting and and like even the fires in Miami, the the available water is is is difficult in some of those Canyon areas. 02:41:06
Because the trucks run out of water and so I think the fire hydrants didn't provide enough so or couldn't get it up there, so they 02:41:16
had to put pumps. 02:41:21
Halfway up. 02:41:26
In order to get. 02:41:27
Of the water up there to fight fires, so. 02:41:29
You know. 02:41:32
Even the local fire departments of some of the towns, like they said the fire, you know that was a vehicle fire. 02:41:33
So I think that our fire departments, like, say the people would fight fires. 02:41:40
Would help us in in decide in making up. 02:41:46
A more conscious decision. 02:41:50
On money spent because we've already allowed. 02:41:52
Quite a bit of money. 02:41:55
And if we're getting a man for for less cost? 02:41:56
I would like to see some more placed. 02:42:01
In areas that they felt would be necessary. 02:42:03
Absolutely. And I have had a couple of meetings I think I spoke Chief Morris can expand to. I think I spoke with the Fire Chiefs 02:42:06
Association two or three times on this topic and. 02:42:11
The the sites that we have are are the essentials, but I think the general consensus among the fire chiefs was, you know, the more 02:42:17
the merrier. I don't think there's a Fire Chief out there that's gonna complain about having more capacity. 02:42:23
Um, so I can, I can speak with them again and see if there's some strategic areas that we can, we can add an addition. 02:42:29
And with these tanks causing little disturbance to the ground, if it's a pre-owned county property or fire districts property, I 02:42:37
don't believe this would require an environmental impact study because they are modular, they're basically just placed on the 02:42:41
ground so. 02:42:46
I. 02:42:51
Possibilities are endless here. And yeah, like bring that to maybe get with a with a with a. 02:42:52
Forest Service. 02:42:59
As as well. 02:43:00
You know, because like I say, some of the some of the communities could very if if there was a fire. 02:43:02
Forest Service could threaten communities and communities could threaten force or so. It wouldn't hurt to get their input on where 02:43:08
they would feel maybe it necessary or the need for available water source correct and I'll speak with them more Additionally but 02:43:15
they they are present at the fire chiefs association meeting so it's a one stop shop. We get all the input in in one meeting and 02:43:23
Chief Morris, I'm sure they would love to hear more about this and and provide more input. 02:43:30
Mr. Chair, thank you. 02:43:39
But we do have a slot open to us today. 02:43:42
At 4:30 for the heel of Cheeks to comment on. 02:43:45
Multiple things or quarterly meeting and if you don't mind I'll just kind of comment briefly on this that this is a work session 02:43:48
item to be able to discuss you know possibility of adding. 02:43:55
Additional 14 tanks. 02:44:02
To our. 02:44:04
Can't capacity of being able to deliver water to the site. 02:44:06
Thank you, Chief. 02:44:11
You out, Christiansen? 02:44:12
Yeah. Thank you, Chief. Thank you, Carl. So initially this whole project was to address 14. 02:44:14
Quick response helicopter type sites that we could use for our trucks as well. 02:44:20
But as you said earlier, the prices have come in and they're lower than what we expected. So let's dream big and go to 14 more and 02:44:26
in my opinion is not dreaming anywhere near big enough. So my thoughts would be. 02:44:35
We're buying stuff for $0.50 on the dollar right now. You even in the dream stages, committed HeLa County to $240,000 and we have 02:44:44
a cap of $609,000. Now. I'm not suggesting we go all the way. 02:44:51
But I'm suggesting that we purchase enough to make a consideration for. 02:44:58
All of the communities. 02:45:04
We we are already committing to 14 remote sites, let's start committing to. 02:45:06
Many more internal sites in our communities. 02:45:11
Around that we identify as important and that can be the rim country, young Gazella tonal basin, rye everywhere. So would a tanker 02:45:15
2IN rye have helped this fire on the highway? Yes so. 02:45:23
My if I were to say anything, it was like, you need to dream bigger than this. So that's what that I would support that. 02:45:33
Absolutely. Thank you. 02:45:41
Well. 02:45:45
So. 02:45:46
We'll never have enough tanks. I don't care what we do, right, You'll never have enough water. 02:45:48
On their own of tanks, you'll have some things to get used and some things that won't. 02:45:53
And on and on and on. 02:45:57
When the 14 sites were established, they were established for a reason. 02:45:59
And there's all strategically placed. 02:46:03
That's what it was. 02:46:06
When you ask the for service, and no disrespect, chief, but you ask anybody in fire. 02:46:07
There, you can't throw enough at them. 02:46:13
They're gonna want more and more and more. I get it. 02:46:16
And I and I get that that there's certain places if you have the right set up, you could save a lot. 02:46:19
You could save a lot of property, you could save a lot of homes, whatever. 02:46:25
Doubt. Guess where those places are. I have no idea how you do that. 02:46:29
The other thing of it is, is the Healer County has been the ones for the most part filling these tanks. 02:46:33
We only have so many people. 02:46:40
We only have so many trucks. 02:46:42
And So what I would like to see before we jump into something from up to our little eyebrows is that we put more thought into this 02:46:44
and we look at it not only from a strategic standpoint. 02:46:50
But also from a support standpoint of. 02:46:57
Hey, you know fire districts. You gonna help us support these or? Hey, Forest Service, where's your water tenders? We need you for 02:47:00
a month to help fill tanks. 02:47:04
You know, it's one thing and I'm totally for helping out. Don't get me wrong, I I hope that nobody does. 02:47:08
I want to help out everybody possible, but the Healer County cannot do it all. 02:47:14
That's what I announced to. 02:47:18
And when we we look at money. 02:47:20
One thing that we're looking at? 02:47:22
Money doesn't grow on trees and this is a 1 to one match. 02:47:24
Do we need to spend a million over $1,000,000 for? What if? 02:47:29
Scenario. 02:47:33
You know, so I think there's a lot to be said about this. I think we need to, really. 02:47:35
Get on with the 14 sites and get those fixed like when we started out to do. 02:47:40
And then we really need to step back and have the conversations on. 02:47:45
Tell me where some more areas are. You know, like Icela, do we need one right there or can you get to the Creek and suck water out 02:47:49
of the Creek right there in a matter of 5 minutes? 02:47:54
Or the lake, you know or or wherever it is, a Creek somewhere, you know, I know of some of these sites that are setting within. 02:47:59
3 minutes of of running water and so do we need to worry about that. There's a lot to it, not just a matter of throwing money at 02:48:08
it and sticking tanks everywhere and having manufacturers get really happy and so. 02:48:15
I think, I think we really do need to jump in there and get those sites taken care of that we started to take care of and we need 02:48:23
to have those conversations. 02:48:27
Is there more out there we could do or that we need to do, or we just want to spend money and do it anyway? 02:48:31
That's my $0.02 worth. 02:48:38
Thank you, Chairman. Just also to kind of address the maintenance comment. So that was considered because yeah, there was a lot of 02:48:41
demand of you know kind of topping off those, those water bladders because a lot of them had you know, significant leaks and you 02:48:47
can't repair the leaks on the bottom, you just can't and there's just a natural drainage out of those things, the scenes just I 02:48:52
mean they're they're. 02:48:58
Older tanks they've been. 02:49:04
You know, rode hard and put up wet. 02:49:06
Literally and these PVC tanks don't don't have the leaking issues, so right. And so Carl, with that in mind, where I wanted to 02:49:09
point out though is so many of these tanks are in the South 40 somewhere. 02:49:15
I can give you a location of a tank South of Pleasant Valley. That's about 40 minutes, probably 45 minutes. 02:49:23
One way with the nurse tanker. 02:49:29
And that's a 50,000 gallon tank and that trucks only holding 4000 gallons. 02:49:31
To do the math, that's that's just for one tank. 02:49:36
And that's what our people have been doing. 02:49:40
They had been making those trips and filling those up and 100% you're 100% right on the fact that we've been fighting those leaks. 02:49:42
So our folks have been throwing their heart and souls into this and in a 60 day period they go back and it's half flat because 02:49:48
they we've lost. 02:49:53
Water, which we want with these, which is a super good thing. 02:50:00
But when you take those kind of turnarounds to these locations and that's where these locations need to be. 02:50:03
They need to be there where there is no other options, where there is no other water. 02:50:09
And our people have covered that time and time again. 02:50:14
And it it it adds up to a lot of time where we have and when you look at pacing, I think we have two, maybe three people that work 02:50:18
on our Rd. department in Payson. 02:50:23
On a road trip. 02:50:27
That's all we have. 02:50:29
And so. 02:50:30
They're stretched thin, trying to fix Supervisor Christensen's road to keep the public off his tail. 02:50:32
And so forth, you know and we don't have that, that availability of time. 02:50:38
And I think that needs to be a real important part of all this conversation. 02:50:43
Absolutely. And I I truly believe that. 02:50:48
I mean either choice we make here is a positive for HeLa County. So that's that's great Ohh 100%. We'll bring in positivity like 02:50:52
that forward to you guys which is rare in my line of work. So but this, this should take some of that day-to-day labor away of of 02:50:58
maintenance and then also. 02:51:04
My goal is that when you know the Forest Service utilizes these tanks, they refill afterwards and that's that's the maintenance. 02:51:11
So that's my my long term goal with this project. That would be good and they have the ability to do that. 02:51:18
But you know, we're talking about a good month or little, little longer of us filling these tanks, the 14 sites that we have not 02:51:25
adding anymore. 02:51:30
But just the 14 sites? It takes a while, James. 02:51:35
Mr. Chairman. 02:51:39
Can I ask a question? You went through the size and capacity and a supervisor client pointed out there's. 02:51:40
From what I understand, there's some sites that have 10,000 gallons or some sites that have 20,000 gallons, 50,000 gallons. 02:51:46
Of course, 5 minutes South of Young. 02:51:53
What it What is of the Fort you're proposing for tanks? 02:51:56
At each site, what is the water capacity? 02:52:01
At each site going to be there. 02:52:04
So that'll put all of the sites at 20,000 gallons, which in talks with the Forest Service and the fire chiefs is about what's 02:52:06
adequate for those sites. 02:52:09
Um, so that will have them even 20,000 gallons across the board. The tanks are 5000 gallons apiece. 02:52:14
That makes them that that's the largest tank that you can go without having wide load transport and difficulty getting them up 02:52:22
into the forest. 02:52:25
So yeah, that'll put them on even 20,000 apiece. So some as Chairman if you have a site with 50,000 or these just. 02:52:29
They they they came from Desert Storm, so they are really old and. 02:52:37
Bladders using and Desert Storm. 02:52:41
Decades ago. 02:52:44
Or was there any rhyme or reason of why one side has 50,001 S 10 when I was 20? 02:52:46
50,000 or was there an established need? 02:52:51
At this one location we have 50,000, so we need to have more tanks than 20,000 gallons or no 20,000 gallons is a lot of water. You 02:52:56
know, you're not looking at at the only reason I tell you this, I did it for 20 years. 02:53:02
But 20,000 gallons is mainly in support of initial IT. 02:53:09
As far as four and if it goes beyond that 24 hour period, there's going to be a lot more resources rolling in. So 20,000 is good. 02:53:14
I think we ended up with a variation of these bladders because that's what they had. 02:53:20
And that's what we got. And so even though I think there's places they've tried to to put the bigger tanks, and I'll give you an 02:53:27
example is right there at the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat and the big metal, they had a 50,000 gallon tank sitting there. 02:53:34
But it was they were able to pump water into that and so they used it for a dip site, which was really cool. It worked out really 02:53:41
fine. 02:53:45
But these other areas are tainted. Blowout will all we have is this tank. We'll put that one there, you know, and and work it and 02:53:50
so. 02:53:53
Just because a 50,000 gallon tank would be sitting there a pillow tank doesn't mean that they would fill it plum to the 50,000. 02:53:58
But but there's a lot of different variations and I think with the 20,000 like Carl's been working on is a good number. I really 02:54:03
do. 02:54:07
Josh. 02:54:13
14 sites, because those were pretty universal across the fire chiefs and the Forest Service of what they felt they needed, 02:54:44
especially with Lake Roosevelt and as you said, other water sources. 02:54:49
The point was more to have those extra storage tanks now while we had the $0.50 on the dollar. 02:54:54
And if we see that there are sites that we are using more, the Forest Service uses more than we would have extra tanks to put 02:54:59
there. If there's sites that we don't use as much, we could even pull a tank from those sites. 02:55:04
The extra tanks is to support those 14 sites or the local fire chiefs and be able to go with that, not so much increase the 02:55:09
platform that we have because like you said, we're already having a lot of work to fill the tanks. 02:55:15
But to be able to start recording data and get the data that we've never had before and say, hey, that might be a site where the 02:55:21
Forest Service uses that a lot with what's going on in time or somewhere like fire last weekend maybe we learned that they needed 02:55:26
more and we would have those tanks on site. So that's really why we came with the 70 tank. The higher tank idea was again one was 02:55:32
the go big, go home. I think that the 490 whatever the the second quote, the higher one was what we're looking at and it wasn't to 02:55:37
set more sites because. 02:55:42
Mr. Chair, if I may, and and one of the reasons I brought up is, is to place maybe them just technically. 02:56:15
And add more tanks because my question was, is that the manufacturers going to do the installation and the plumbing for the five 02:56:23
year warranty, so if we have tanks just sitting? 02:56:29
What's the warranty? 02:56:35
If we decide to put them at a site a year and a half from now. 02:56:36
Is the company willing to come back with a tank that we've had in storage for two years? 02:56:42
Install it and give us a warranty. 02:56:47
Or is it going to be if we have the tanks? 02:56:50
Then if we want to put somewhere somewhere, then we're after an independent contractor with no warranty on the tank because it's 02:56:55
been in storage for two years that that that was just where I'm at. I mean if we were going to get them. 02:57:02
That's why I was thinking of maybe setting some while we got the warranty. 02:57:10
And the finances, because I wasn't sure if we just have them sitting there, what's going to be, like you say, if a site? 02:57:15
Is used and we need more water at a particular site. What is going to be our our warranty? 02:57:23
Um, once we're finished with our 14, that's. 02:57:31
Um, so supervisor, I think I can answer that I. 02:57:35
Asked every question I could think of when I came to the warranty. So the warranty. 02:57:38
We're getting the tanks installed by a third party contractor. It's not the same vendor that's providing them, it is the same 02:57:44
vendor that's providing them and plumbing them. 02:57:48
So they're going to come pre plumbed and basically the contractors are going to set them on the ground, they're going to fill 02:57:52
them. I forgot to mention that earlier too. Make sure to write that in the contract they will do the initial fill on the tanks. 02:57:57
Contractor will, yes. 02:58:03
Um, so that I forgot to mention that, I apologize. And as soon as you started talking about it, I wanted to throw that in there, 02:58:05
but. 02:58:08
So the warranty is basically from the time that we purchased the tanks for the next five years, regardless of whether they're 02:58:11
installed on a site, kept on locations, stored indoors outdoors, the warranty is good for five years. 02:58:18
So whether we have them in storage or not, it doesn't affect the warranty as long as we're not making modifications to the tanks 02:58:24
themselves. 02:58:28
And great. That's why I love work sessions, because all three of us come up with these different whirlwinds and. 02:58:33
Different ideas and things in it and it's great to be able to. 02:58:40
Share our thoughts with you, like I said, to dig into your brain a little more because now they're going to be filled and we still 02:58:44
got a warranty, so later when when it comes to us to make a decision. 02:58:51
After some of these work sessions and the information brought up and we could make a whole lot better decision. 02:58:57
With the with the information that we're able to share so. 02:59:03
A concern as much here as it was with the 14 sites and that that really was what they wanted. So we really have done an exhaustive 02:59:35
search with everybody in it. From my opinion, the offers or the the, the solutions he's come up with are are what the Forest 02:59:40
Service and the fire chiefs have really agreed on. 02:59:46
Correct. And you know I've I've done extensive research and Hester just about everyone of our fire chiefs and Forest Service 02:59:53
representatives and. 02:59:57
UM, and also chairman unit, the nail on the head. It is for initial attack, so 20,000 gallons of capacity buys you the time to get 03:00:01
an incident management team in place or to have your, you know, mutual aid come in. 03:00:08
Um, that that that's kind of bridging that gap and that's an important gap because now we've seen the initial attack is, is what 03:00:14
differs A7 acre fire from a 70,000 acre fire and obviously critically important because that right location where the tank is, 03:00:21
that's the one tank that is completely out of Commission. It's flat without tracks all over it. 03:00:28
And that's the closest tank to where that tanker fire took place, so. 03:00:36
Like I said, you know, I I support and we'll move in the direction of the board wants to go whether it's more or less. 03:00:40
Either way, it's a positive thing, so. 03:00:46
Happy to move forward on it. Yeah, I just think that the. 03:00:49
The 14 sites are definitely something. 03:00:53
We need to fix. 03:00:55
And then I have no problems with sitting and looking at other. 03:00:57
Areas, Options. 03:01:01
Whatever it is, you know, I I'm not against any of that. I'm just like. 03:01:03
Well, before we buy a whole whole semi load of tanks here, let's let's put put our thoughts together better and see so. 03:01:07
Yeah, Mr. Chair, I agree that it's like I said, the reason I was thinking of more is for warranty purposes rather than lack of 03:01:16
warranty purposes, so. 03:01:21
Yeah, the the 14 are are major. 03:01:26
And and and and very necessary. 03:01:28
And so once we. 03:01:31
Have a little more information, we can make better decisions. 03:01:33
Instruction. Yeah, let's see what James says. Ohh, good. Go ahead, James. 03:01:36
I I did have a question on on the funding for this. This is a congressionally directed spending it's we've had it for several 03:01:41
years. 03:01:45
And it appears that the money has been remitted to the Forest Service. 03:01:49
When we expend the dollars, then we will be reimbursed. If we spend the 500,000, we'll get a check for 250,000. 03:01:53
First comes out of the county, county. 03:02:01
Is there a reversion clause? Is this once we do this initial? 03:02:03
Spend on tanks, Is the money gonna go away? Is the money gonna be sitting there that we could get the 14 sites taken care of that? 03:02:08
Our immediate threats to the county. 03:02:18
And then we could do additional research and digging more and whatever or. 03:02:21
Once we do the 14 sites, the funding goes away and and we're done. 03:02:27
My understanding based on the reporting that Carl has to do with the United States Forest Service for the funds. 03:02:31
Would be we have the whole time frame, so even if we do something. 03:02:37
Through. 03:02:42
Do you remember the time before he might be in Michael? Three years. 03:02:43
From when? 03:02:48
From 2020 to 2K. 03:02:49
That's on the federal here I believe, so it would be. 03:02:54
September 2025. 03:02:57
Correct. And so yes, the the reporting requires us to put the amount spent in there, so. 03:02:59
We can, we can spend, come up with another idea later, add to it until that deadline. So if the board decides to go forward with 03:03:05
these 14 sites and then have discussion later and want to buy additional tanks, it does not have to be 1 purchase. We can we can 03:03:12
keep working on this project until the term is up. 03:03:18
From. 03:03:24
From a staff, staff perspective, perspective and if you want to. 03:03:26
Give me different direction. I would say that we. 03:03:30
Get whatever tanks we need to get them hooked up for the 14 sites. 4 tanks at each site. Take care of that. 03:03:32
And that we'll do some additional consideration. 03:03:39
Knowing that, we have a hard deadline of September 30, 2025 to do whatever we're going to do. 03:03:42
And not get any additional tanks at this point because. 03:03:48
Letting them sit, as you've pointed out to Roger Humphrey, that that's not good for. 03:03:51
Any type of tank. 03:03:56
That we can get additional tanks after we get the initial ones set up and running. 03:03:58
Steve, did you have something? Yeah, thanks Willie. And you had a lot of good comments about being able to take care of this whole 03:04:03
deal after we get it so. 03:04:07
Knowing that we have a time period, I think Mr. Manley's suggestion of let's get the 14 done. 03:04:12
Sooner rather than later is a good idea. We'll address further options later. So I would like to see you bring us options. Say, 03:04:18
well, we've worked with water wheel, we've worked with several of the health gate and all that and they they would like to have 03:04:25
one here or there and they're going to fill it. They're going to take care of everything. We're just going to provide a tank and 03:04:31
set it there for them or somebody's going to set it there for them where it's not an extra burden on the county. 03:04:38
Correct. Because I I believe that's exactly right. We can't be taking care of a whole bunch of tanks at the convenience of the 03:04:45
fire districts. 03:04:49
When they should be able to do that themselves. 03:04:53
Right. And the other thing is can can, anybody can. 03:04:56
Can we buy? 03:05:00
A water tender truck with this money. 03:05:01
And would that be useful? 03:05:05
We already own them. 03:05:06
We have enough. 03:05:08
Well, we just don't have enough drivers. Ohh understanding by yeah way that the congressional, by the way, the more one is it was 03:05:10
very specific to replacing the bladders. OK. Honestly even even new sites would be interesting because it was mentioned to update 03:05:18
the sites that we currently have. So it would be pushing the boundaries by the way it was written for the earmark. 03:05:25
OK. Thanks. 03:05:34
So I think my strategy going forward is going to be bringing to you guys the the replacement of the of the sites. 03:05:37
Going forward with that, getting it moving, talked with the contractor and he believes he can have it done within a week. 03:05:46
Which is all 14 sites. 03:05:52
Told me right on. So that seems pretty incredible and I'd be excited to see that because it would be, it'd be amazing. 03:05:55
But we can go forward with that and then I can go back to the fire chiefs and the Forest Service and talk strategy about, you 03:06:02
know, hey, let's. 03:06:05
Let's get a number of not. 03:06:09
Additional things to have on standby. 03:06:11
But more ideas of what to do with these tanks, whether it's, you know, increasing capacity or another thing to keep in mind is 03:06:13
there are sites that are owned privately by either fire districts or the Forest Service that are not ours that I don't think would 03:06:18
be outside of the scope to help to. 03:06:24
Supply those as well. 03:06:30
Um, So I'll come to you with a plan after the fact. So I'll come to you with a plan saying, you know, here's what additional tanks 03:06:31
that we could use as a county. 03:06:36
And where they would be used? Does that Does that work? 03:06:42
I think I think rather explore more obviously but. 03:06:47
You know, I I gotta be real truthful with you guys when when Supervisor Martin started this back queen quite a while back. 03:06:51
I was fairly high in the government, in fire management and quite honestly I thought she was crazy when she started it. 03:06:59
Because. 03:07:06
I don't know how many people understand this or know this, but when you're in fire management on the high side with a phone call, 03:07:07
you can have a village sitting there the next morning at daylight. 03:07:12
And as time went on and I seen what she had done and the placement. 03:07:18
And we started using those. She was right. She she did it. She put a good program together. 03:07:23
She did a really good job with it. 03:07:28
And so to be able to take that and. 03:07:30
Makes it where we need to be. 03:07:33
Today with it, that's that's a huge help. It really is and not only is those tanks. 03:07:35
Sitting there for the your engine crews and whatnot to pump into their dip sites for those helicopters. 03:07:41
Yes, we don't have. 03:07:49
Even very many dip sites across the face of the rim. 03:07:51
That's where she really scored on that. 03:07:55
And then a lot of people don't understand it, but on initial attack, that helicopter is the first thing off the pad. 03:07:58
And so having that availability. 03:08:04
Saves a lot. 03:08:08
An awful lot. And so she did a good thing. And I told her that later on. It's like you you got a good program started here. You 03:08:09
did good. 03:08:13
But. 03:08:17
I think being able to take those 14 sites, keep those going, look at some others, maybe down here wherever it's at. 03:08:18
You know, I I think that's all good. And you know, things change. 03:08:27
Fire seasons change, locations change, You know, the years change, whatever it is so they'll do. That is great and I think that 03:08:31
would be good for us as. 03:08:35
Or for me it is the board. I want to speak for us, but for me it's a part of the board. It would be good to see what other 03:08:39
alternatives are out there or other ideas. 03:08:43
Yeah, absolutely. And and to expand on that too, I mean the initial attack is probably more important now than ever because I mean 03:08:47
nowadays it's not uncommon to see two or 3000 acres of of growth on a wildfire in a 24 hour period. So getting that initial attack 03:08:54
is is critical now more than ever and this will have us. 03:09:00
Ahead of the curve as far as preparedness goes for wildfires. 03:09:08
And yes, now I will say to you, there's, there's other other rounds of this discussion. 03:09:12
Is that some of these starts? 03:09:18
Will turn into managed fires. 03:09:22
And and in in a in a real roundabout way of not getting real bogged down right now. Makes you wonder, well, why are we throwing 03:09:25
money at something that they're gonna expand anyway? 03:09:30
You know what I'm saying? 03:09:37
And so that should always be in the back of our mind too. And. 03:09:38
I we we just have to roll with something you know, but but I really like where Tommy put us as far as partnerships with the Forest 03:09:44
Service on a lot of this fire. 03:09:49
Fire suppression stuff and it said it's not good there and so we need to keep on. 03:09:54
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just one thing to you, you kind of got a little dancy when we were talking about sites and what the actual 03:09:59
grant was written for. 03:10:04
So we might look and and not get anywhere close to the boundary lines of what the grant was written for and stay well within those 03:10:09
lines before we waste a lot of time looking at additional things that probably would not fall under what the intention or the 03:10:16
purpose of the grant was written. 03:10:23
That that would that would probably be one of my first things to look at. 03:10:31
And then extras to replace some of the ones that may get damaged or something on a site would be possible, but additional sites 03:10:36
may not even be something to entertain. 03:10:41
Depending on how the grant. 03:10:48
Paperwork is written. 03:10:51
I'm done. 03:10:54
Mr. Chair, thank you. Anything you want to add? No, I think we've talked it out. Yeah, I'm good. Thanks. Right on. 03:10:55
OK. We're at 2 minutes, right? Yeah, you did till I spoke for two minutes. Yeah, you did good. So anyway, thank you for all that, 03:11:01
Carl. You've done a lot of work on it. Really appreciate it. Thank you. 03:11:06
And with that, I'm going to adjourn this meeting. 03:11:12
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 03:11:15
Yep. 03:11:22
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