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  • A. Information/Discussion/Action to adopt Resolution No. 23-11-07 granting a 25-year franchise to Cactus State Utility Operating Company, LLC ("Cactus State") to provide water service to Cactus State's customers in the Tonto Village service area. (Marian Heatherly)
  • B. Information/Discussion/Action to adopt Resolution No. 23-11-08 granting a 25-year franchise to Cactus State Utility Operating Company, LLC ("Cactus State") to provide water service to Cactus State's customers in the Christopher Creek Subdivision and Gardner Subdivision. (Marian Heatherly)   3. REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:
  • A. Information/Discussion/Acton to approve Sourcewell Contract Agreement No. 020221-AAC with Agile Fleet Inc. in the amount of $55,417.01 from November 1, 2023, through October 31, 2024, for the FleetCommander software program. (Homero Vela)
  • B. Information/Discussion regarding the role of the Public Fiduciary in Gila County. (Tiffany Poarch)
  • C. Information/Discussion regarding the progress of the flood mapping project by the Federal Emergency Management Agency for Gila County. (Darde de Roulhac)
  • D. Information/Discussion regarding services provided by the University of Arizona Cooperative Extension to residents of Gila County, and a discussion with Gila County Management about services/resources provided to the University of Arizona Cooperative Extension. (Michael O'Driscoll)
  • E. Information/Discussion regarding library services that are provided to community members in Gila County and how the Gila County Library District facilitates those services. (Elaine Votruba)
  • 4. CALL TO THE PUBLIC:  A call to the public is held for public benefit to allow individuals to address the Board of Supervisors on any issue within the jurisdiction of the Board of Supervisors. Board members may not discuss items that are not specifically identified on the agenda. Therefore, pursuant to Arizona Revised Statute § 38-431.01(H), at the conclusion of an open call to the public, individual members of the Board of Supervisors may respond to criticism made by those who have addressed the Board, may ask staff to review a matter or may ask that a matter be put on a future agenda for further discussion and decision at a future date.
  • 5.  At any time during this meeting pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.02(K), members of the Board of Supervisors and the County Manager may present a brief summary of current events.  No action may be taken on the information presented.        IF SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS ARE NEEDED, PLEASE CONTACT THE RECEPTIONIST AT (928) 425-3231 AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE TO ARRANGE THE ACCOMMODATIONS. FOR TTY, PLEASE DIAL 7-1-1 TO REACH THE ARIZONA RELAY SERVICE AND ASK THE OPERATOR TO CONNECT YOU TO (928) 425-3231. THE BOARD MAY VOTE TO HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF OBTAINING LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE BOARD’S ATTORNEY ON ANY MATTER LISTED ON THE AGENDA PURSUANT TO A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3). THE ORDER OR DELETION OF ANY ITEM ON THIS AGENDA IS SUBJECT TO MODIFICATION AT THE MEETING.
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Terry, would you lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, please? 00:00:05
To the flag of the United States of America. 00:00:12
And to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:16
Steve, did you have somebody lined up for the? 00:00:31
Implication. 00:00:33
No, OK. 00:00:38
OK. Thank you. 00:00:40
No, that's. 00:00:43
OK. Good morning, everybody. 00:00:51
We're going to start off on two public. 00:00:54
Information Discussion. 00:00:58
To adopt A resolution #23-1-O. 00:01:01
Granting a 25 year franchise to Cactus state utility. 00:01:05
Operating Company LLC Cactus State to provide water services to Cactus State's customers in the Tunnel Village service area. And 00:01:12
I'm not sure who's presenting today, Mr. Chairman, I believe Samantha Trimble. 00:01:20
Chief Deputy Deputy Clerk of the board is on the phone and we're presenting. Good morning, Samantha. Are you are you with us 00:01:29
today? 00:01:33
Yes, Sir, I'm here. OK, good. Well, you can you can present as. 00:01:39
It's. 00:01:47
All righty. Thank you, Chairman and Board members. So as stated, Cactus State Utility Operating Company, LLC is also known as 00:01:50
Cactus State. So throughout my presentation, I'm going to refer to them as Cactus State. 00:01:56
On October 23rd, 2023, I received an application Franchise application from Caitlin Smith of Fenimore Craig, PC Law Offices on 00:02:04
behalf of Cactus State to provide water services to Cactus State's customers in the Tonto Village area. 00:02:12
Miss Smith is present to answer questions or concerns of the Board throughout this. 00:02:20
Sometimes. So if you guys want to talk to her about anything, we can address her. She is there. The application was reviewed by 00:02:26
the clerk of the Board's office and attorney Jeff Dalton. It meets all requirements of Resolution #16-12-O1 which is the 00:02:32
resolution that outlines regulations and procedures for all utility franchises in unincorporated Field County. If adopted by the 00:02:39
board, Resolution number 231107 grants a 25 year franchise to Cactus State to provide water service to the Townsville Village 00:02:45
area. 00:02:52
Within 10 days after branching, the Franchise Cactus State is required to provide me with a certificate of insurance and the 00:02:59
signed franchise acceptance form. In December of 2021, the Arizona Corporation Commission, ACC provided the joint application, oh 00:03:06
sorry, approved the joint application of Town of Village Water Company, Inc and Texas State to transfer the water utility system 00:03:14
assets and the certificate of convenience and necessities. So that's known as the CCNN. 00:03:21
To Cactus State for the council village service area. 00:03:29
Cactus State provides service to approximately 190 customers in the Town of Village area. 00:03:33
The notice of hearing was published in the Pacing Roundup newspaper. The application fee and publication fee have been paid. 00:03:40
I have not received any objection regarding this request. I'd be happy to answer any questions or we can address Miss Smith as 00:03:47
well, and a public hearing is required for this item. 00:03:53
OK. 00:04:01
Supervisor client do you have anything? I do not, I'm. 00:04:03
Supervisor Christianson, do you wish to ask any questions today? 00:04:08
Thank you. No questions, no comments. Thank you. 00:04:13
OK. I only have one on the 25 year franchise, is that just common to have them for 25 years or is there a reason that that's for 00:04:16
25 years? 00:04:21
Yes Sir. That's just how the county has always done it is a 25 year franchise. 00:04:29
OK, that's fine, Ask an answer. 00:04:34
All right. Then I guess supervisor client, I'll call for a motion we we need to go through the public process, OK. 00:04:38
I'll open it to public hearing. Does anybody have? 00:04:46
Anything up in patient for the public hearing? 00:04:50
No. 00:04:54
Anyone here to comment on the public hearing? 00:04:56
OK, I'll close the public hearing and call for a motion. Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to adopt resolution #23-11-077. 00:05:01
Granting a 25 year franchise to Cactus State Utility Operating Company, LLC. 00:05:14
I will second that with a motion. A second all in favor. Do so by saying aye, aye. 00:05:21
I passed unanimous. 00:05:28
OK. Moving on to public hearing 2B information discussion action to adopt resolution #23-11. 00:05:30
Dash 08 granting a 25 year franchise to Cactus state utility. 00:05:39
Operating Company LLC, Cactus State to provide water services to Cactus State's customers and Christopher Creek subdivision. 00:05:45
And Gardner subdivision. 00:05:54
OK, Samantha, you're on again. 00:05:58
Thank you. And so I also received this franchise application for Miss Smith on October 21st, 3rd that she submitted on behalf of 00:06:03
Cactus State. This franchise application for Cactus State to provide water service to its customers in the Christopher Creek 00:06:08
Subdivision and the Gardner subdivision. 00:06:14
The application was reviewed by the clerk of the Board's office and Mr. Dalton. It also meets all the requirements of Resolution 00:06:20
#16-12-O1 and the application and publication fees have been paid so if adopted by the board, Resolution #23 Seven Dash O 8 grant 00:06:27
a 25 year franchise detective State to provide water service to the Christopher Creek subdivision and Gardner subdivision within 00:06:34
10 days after granting the franchise. Cactus State is required to provide me with a certificate of insurance. 00:06:42
And signed franchise acceptance. 00:06:49
In December 2021, this application was also approved by the ACC for the transfer of the water utility system access and the 00:06:52
Certificate of Convenience and necessity to Cactus State. 00:06:58
This utility system is comprised of two subsystems, Christopher Creek Haven and Gardner Water Systems. Christopher Creek serves 00:07:06
the population of 30 full time residents with 194 connections. Gardener Water Systems serve. 00:07:13
A full time risk of population of 30 people with 94. 00:07:22
The total number of connections is greater than the resident population because many residents use this area as their second home. 00:07:26
The notice of hearing was published in the Roundup newspaper and I have not received any objection regarding this request. And if 00:07:32
you have any questions, Miss Smith or I are available to answer this for you. 00:07:38
OK. Thank you. Samantha, Supervisor, Client, do you have any questions? Yeah, thank you. Mr. Chair. Samantha, on this, it says on 00:07:45
my resolution number is the same as the previous one, is that correct? 00:07:51
No, I think this is, this is oh wait, the other one was 07, I do believe. 00:08:00
OK, I got it. I got it. 00:08:06
OK. I'm good. That's all I had. Thank you. 00:08:08
All right. Supervisor Christensen, do you have any questions? 00:08:13
No questions. Thank you. 00:08:17
OK, then I will open it to the public. 00:08:19
For public hearing, do we have any public imp? 00:08:23
No. 00:08:26
Do we have any public here in Globe? 00:08:28
OK, I will close the public hearing and I'll call for a motion. Mr. Chair. I'll make the motion to adopt resolution #23-11-0. 00:08:32
Granting a 25 year franchise to Cactus State Utility Operating Company, LLC. 00:08:43
I will second that having a motion, a second all in favor. Do so by saying aye, aye. 00:08:50
Hi, it was passed unanimous. 00:08:56
Moving on to. 00:09:00
Regular agenda, item information, discussion, action to approve source well contracting. 00:09:03
Agreement number 020221 Dash AAC. 00:09:08
With Agile Fleet incorporated in the amount of $55,417 and 1 penny. 00:09:14
For. 00:09:22
Oh, from November 1st, 2023 through October 31st, 2024 for the Fleet Commander software program. 00:09:24
Good morning. I'll be standing in for Romero. He had some training he needed to attend, so. 00:09:34
So yeah, this software has been huge for General Services. It's really has bridged a gap that used to exist. 00:09:42
In the past it's been difficult sharing maintenance repair history from our north to South shop. 00:09:51
As well as the ease ability of tracking our repair, maintenance and fuel costs, I mean it's all on one, one place we can we can go 00:09:57
and view it and. 00:10:01
Made that so much simpler than the way we used to do it. 00:10:06
A new thing that we've we've started doing as of this fiscal year is we're actually using Fleet Commander as a billing tool. 00:10:10
So this has actually reduced the amount of time spent on these billing functions. 00:10:18
And actually has reduced the amount of steaks that used to be made so. 00:10:24
It's been big in doing that. We're also in the process and we're almost there. 00:10:29
We're setting up what's called Maintenance Due reminders, so in the event your vehicle is due for maintenance. 00:10:35
It'll alert us and we will send out an e-mail basically saying hey, it's time service come on in and that will definitely reduce 00:10:41
the amount of. 00:10:45
Overdue services that sometimes happens when you just rely on the sticker in the window. 00:10:51
Other than that, I'll take any questions anyone has regarding this. 00:10:57
Thank you Super. 00:11:03
Fine, I'm good. Thanks, David. 00:11:05
Supervisor Christians. 00:11:08
Do you have any questions? 00:11:13
Just one. 00:11:16
Just fine. 00:11:19
No questions. 00:11:29
OK. And I have none people I decline on call for a motion. 00:11:35
Mr. Chair, I'd make the motion to approve Source Well Contract Agreement number 020221, Dash AAC with Agile Fleet Incorporated in 00:11:39
the amount of $55,417 and 1 penny. 00:11:46
I will second having a motion. Second all in favor do so by saying aye, aye. 00:11:55
I passed unanimously. Thank you very much. Thank you. Have a good day. 00:12:01
OK, moving on to three. 00:12:05
I can't believe there's any more action, OK? 00:12:08
3B Information discussion regarding the role of the public fiduciary in Gila County. 00:12:14
T. 00:12:21
You're on. Thank you very much for all you do. You're welcome. Good morning, supervisors and Chairman Christensen. 00:12:22
First off, I would like to introduce you to my staff which include. 00:12:31
Myself, Laura Short, which is my deputy. 00:12:38
I have 3 case managers, Patty Loose, Patty Ortega, Sonia Boyd. 00:12:42
Julian Velarde is my finance specialist. 00:12:46
Danny Creek is the administrative clerk and John Froman is the attorney for the Public Fiduciary's office. 00:12:50
So the definition of a fiduciary A fiduciary is someone who for a fee. 00:12:58
Serves as court appointed guardian or conservator for one or more persons who are unrelated to the fiduciary. 00:13:03
A fiduciary accepts the responsibility for taking care of the needs or property of another person for the benefit of that person. 00:13:10
The Office of the Public Fiduciary was established by the 1974 legislature to serve as fiduciary of last resort. And if you made a 00:13:19
copy of what was online, there is a newer version that was uploaded, so I'll get that copy to you. 00:13:26
Fiduciary Organizations In Arizona, there are several types of businesses that follow under the definition of a fiduciary. 00:13:37
You have individuals, business entities, government entities such as myself, So there's fifteen public fiduciaries around the 00:13:45
state of Arizona. 00:13:50
And then there's nonprofit fiduciaries. The professional fiduciary must be licensed with an Arizona Supreme Court, individually 00:13:55
and as a business entity, if applicable, prior to accepting court appointments. 00:14:01
Regarding licensure, licensure is granted by the Supreme Court through testing fingerprint and background check. 00:14:09
Public fiduciaries are appointed by the Board of Supervisors of each county. 00:14:17
So I was appointed by the Board of Supervisors over 23 years ago. 00:14:21
Cases are appointed to fiduciaries by the Superior Court judges. 00:14:26
Gila County Case Manager, Specialist and Finance Specialist must be licensed after completing 3 years of hands on training 00:14:31
underneath the fiduciary. We currently have 3 licensed fiduciaries in my office. 00:14:38
So when is a referral appropriate? A referral is appropriate anytime one feels they know of a vulnerable or incapacitated person 00:14:46
who is a victim of abuse or who is in danger of abandonment, neglect, or self neglect. 00:14:54
Her statute, 46455 states a person who has been employed to provide care to an incapacitated or vulnerable person and who causes 00:15:02
or permits the life or health of an adult to be endangered is guilty of a classified felony. 00:15:09
So who can make a referral? Basically anybody can make a referral to the public fiduciary. It could be. 00:15:19
Yourself, it could be a neighbor, a friend, a family member, an agency, a health department, a hospital. 00:15:27
A police officer, so anybody can refer someone to our office and Laura Short in my office, she will go with someone from my office 00:15:36
or myself and we'll go and do an investigation. 00:15:43
And we'll make a recommendation for the need of guardianship. 00:15:50
The fiduciary is responsible for gathering information to make a decision as to the need for an appointment. 00:15:55
We have to determine whether or not this person will suffer a financial loss if we don't step in. 00:16:02
Will benefit by having a fiduciary whether or not this person will qualify for benefits. It's really important that the person 00:16:07
have benefits or at least qualify for benefits. So we'll apply for all the benefits for them, but if they don't qualify for any 00:16:13
benefits. 00:16:18
It's hard, very hard, to serve them. 00:16:24
If they don't have a benefit, such as long term care or developmental disability. 00:16:26
Umm. 00:16:31
Seriously mentally ill things like that. Is the person at physical risk or and have they exhausted all suitable service providers? 00:16:33
Next is John Froman. He's been serving as the attorney for the public fiduciary office. 00:16:45
For over 22 years. 00:16:52
And we appear in front of Judge Chambers, Judge Wright and Judge Wallack. 00:16:55
And if you guys have any questions, feel free to jump in at any time. 00:17:02
So the process for a petition for an appointment. Legal pleadings are prepared by the public fiduciary attorney John Pearlman. 00:17:06
A hearing is scheduled with a Superior Court. 00:17:14
The judge appoints a court investigator and attorney and a physician and all of those. 00:17:18
People will write a report to the judge. 00:17:23
He'll review those documents and make a determination as to whether or not that person needs a guardian. 00:17:26
And or conservator? 00:17:33
In addition to general guardianship, there is mental health guardianship and the mental health guardianship powers allows. 00:17:36
To give the authority to consent. 00:17:45
A person into a inpatient mental health facility. 00:17:49
So. 00:17:54
I have general guardianship basically on everyone and there are. 00:17:55
Several people that I also have mental health guardianship, which allows me to place them in a hospital. 00:18:01
Tiffany. 00:18:08
When you start one of these cases and you guys, like I said, those three have to prepare a written report to the judge, how long 00:18:11
does that take to get through that process? 00:18:15
Well, usually when you set court out it's it has to be at least two weeks. 00:18:19
Because that's what it takes to get it on the court calendar 14 days. 00:18:25
And so something will go out to that physician. 00:18:29
And they have to have it into court by that time. OK. Thank you. 00:18:34
So we currently have 84. 00:18:39
Here is where all of our clients are located. 00:18:42
The next one is the client location chart. We have a lot of people that live in Gila County, but if they don't live in Gila 00:18:46
County, it's because the services that they receive are outside of Gila County. 00:18:52
So we place them where their needs are being met. 00:19:01
In 2023, we investigated 29 cases. We were appointed on 7. 00:19:08
We denied 8 of them. 00:19:14
Cases referred to private fiduciaries are 5, decedents of states are four and we were terminated on one guardianship this 00:19:17
particular case. 00:19:22
Myself. 00:19:29
And someone else actually transported this client to Texas. 00:19:31
Which is where her family is from. 00:19:35
I was able to go visit her two times. 00:19:37
And after that, it was determined that a family member was able to become a surrogate decision maker for her and we were able to 00:19:41
terminate the guardianship. So we got her where she needed to be with her family, and then we were able to terminate the 00:19:45
guardianship. 00:19:50
Expenses of establishing guardianship and conservatorship. 00:19:59
Filing fees charged by the clerk of the court. 00:20:04
Attorneys fees. 00:20:07
Proposed words, attorney fees. There is physician report costs, court investigator costs, and then private fiduciaries have bonds. 00:20:09
There are. 00:20:20
Excuse me? 00:20:23
Proposed by the public judiciary are approved by Gila County Board of Supervisors and Superior Court presiding judge. 00:20:25
Public fiduciary fees are approved annually by the Superior Court judge on each case. So every year, annually, we present the case 00:20:34
to the judge and he approves the fees. Fees are collected only when words necessities have been met. 00:20:41
Here is the public fiduciary fee schedule. 00:20:52
Next, our revenues and uncollected fees. 00:20:56
Our goal is to collect $45,000 a year, and in 2223 we collected 82,000. The increase was due to stimulus payments from COVID and 00:21:01
Native American Tribal Relief payments. 00:21:08
As you can see below, there is a lot of uncollected fees. 00:21:16
Both from people that are currently on our roster and people that have passed away. And the reason for that is because we have 00:21:21
people that live on $980 a month. 00:21:26
And they pay their rent and utilities and personal life. 00:21:32
Personal effects, and they don't have any money leftover for. 00:21:36
So we take care of the indigent. There's very little feasible money leftover for fees. 00:21:40
The rights that you could lose. 00:21:47
Upon the court finding Incapacity. 00:21:49
You could lose the right to vote to. 00:21:52
The right to decide where to live. How to spend your money or invest your money. The right to take or refuse medications. 00:21:56
Or to write a will or change an existing will? 00:22:05
Regarding the assignment of cases, we base it on the location of the word. We have a particular case manager. All she does is 00:22:12
drive to the valley, so she'll do the valley visits. We have one that does all pay. 00:22:18
Cases and so it depends. It could depend on where they live, their gender, or the level of difficulty of the case. 00:22:25
Next is the diagnosis chart. 00:22:36
And as you can see, a lot of our clients have a dual diagnosis. 00:22:39
So in decision making the general principles are the fiduciary shall exercise extreme care and diligence. 00:22:46
When making decisions on behalf of the word or protected person. 00:22:54
The fiduciary shall make all decisions in a manner that promotes the civil rights and liberties of the word or protective person 00:22:58
and maximizes independence and self-reliance. 00:23:03
Here are two primary roles for decision making. There's substitute judgment. 00:23:10
And best interest? 00:23:16
Major life decisions for a client. These are just a few decisions that I make. 00:23:22
Daily. Weekly. Monthly. 00:23:28
Do not resuscitate. 00:23:31
Full code status. 00:23:33
Life support. The removal of life support. 00:23:35
All surgical procedures, marriages and divorces. 00:23:38
Buying and selling Real? 00:23:43
Birth control and surgical sterilization. 00:23:45
Family involvement and interventions. 00:23:48
And whether or not to invest, invest. 00:23:52
And maximize the words of state. I have made decisions on all of these over the years. 00:23:56
Just in the last. 00:24:03
We've had two amputations. 00:24:05
Two blood clots. One person survived a blood clot, the other person did not. 00:24:08
So my office is on call 24/7, 365 days a year and that's basically Laura and I. 00:24:15
Referral to County Attorney for fraud. 00:24:29
Umm. 00:24:32
We have referred approximately 8 cases through the years to the County attorney's office for fraud when we felt like someone. 00:24:34
Was being financially exploited or abused in some way? 00:24:43
Other duties. 00:24:50
Other case management duties. This is just a fraction of the duties, just so you can get an idea of what we do. So we apply for 00:24:52
all the benefits that we believe somebody qualifies for. 00:24:57
Long term care disability veterans. 00:25:02
Administration. Social Security. 00:25:08
We change their mailing address so we can start receiving all of their mail. Go through all of their mail and see if they have 00:25:11
life insurance, burial policies, what all their bills are. 00:25:16
We secure all their assets and transfer titles. 00:25:22
We close all of their bank accounts and put it into a public fiduciary account in their name. 00:25:26
We prepare client. 00:25:31
Inventories, Picture inventories, Video inventories, sometimes. 00:25:34
Prepare a care. 00:25:38
Advanced directives end of life decisions with regards to advanced directives. 00:25:40
Those are ongoing and they change from day-to-day. So you could be a full code status at one moment and at midnight you get a call 00:25:45
from a doctor and you're changing that person to a do not resuscitate. 00:25:52
Attend all medical and psychological appointments, selling a property and assets. 00:26:01
We are supposed to visit clients no less than every other month. 00:26:10
And, but it usually requires more. 00:26:14
We just did a calculation on one particular client and this year so far we have seen him 39 times. 00:26:17
So it just depends on what is the need for that particular person. 00:26:23
I'm just going to give you just a couple case examples. Our office was referred on a 76 year old woman who had a brain tumor 00:26:32
behind her left eye causing significant protrusion and loss of vision. 00:26:38
She was a breast cancer survivor and had gone through major surgeries and was adamant she did not want the tumor. 00:26:45
Tumors surgically removed. Even though she had some cognitive deficits, she was able to express her wishes. 00:26:51
A Superior Court judge ordered she not be subject to surgery even though physicians reported the tumor was 100% curable with with 00:26:58
surgery and chemotherapy. She received palliative care at a skilled nursing facility until she passed away five months after our 00:27:05
appointment. 00:27:11
And that is something that. 00:27:18
Take to a judge. 00:27:22
And we give him all of the information and then sometimes a judge will guide us on what direction to go in. 00:27:24
The next the next example is an 80 year old gentleman living in a remote area of Gila County. He came to the attention of 00:27:33
community members when he began to exhibit dementia and paranoia. 00:27:39
A followed his home resulted in hospitalization and rehabilitation at a skilled nursing facility. 00:27:45
Due to the poor conditions of his home, no fiduciary and private practice would take this case. Our office became guardian and 00:27:51
after an inventory of the home, we sold the property. 00:27:57
So this is my staff. 00:28:03
We've got our gear on and we are getting ready to go into this home, so we have to go through all of the contents of the home. 00:28:06
And there may have been. 00:28:18
10 to 15. 00:28:21
Boxes. Metal containers that had straps of locks on them. 00:28:26
And so we had to get all of the locks off of everything, get inside, and most of the time there was nothing in there. 00:28:32
So that was treacherous, but as you can see, there's lots of things to go through. 00:28:41
This gentleman lived in very very poor condition. So we were happy that we were able to get him out of this condition and we 00:28:50
literally had to go. I was in this room go from bottom to top every single inch of that house and make sure there was nothing of 00:28:56
value in the home and or something that we had to preserve. 00:29:03
Umm. Or personal papers and effects and stuff like that? 00:29:11
OK. 00:29:17
And next we have one last example. The Superior Court requested our office investigate whether there was a continued need for 00:29:18
guardianship of a 28 year old man because the current guardian had filed for guardianship to be terminated. Our investigation 00:29:25
revealed an ongoing need for a representative payee through Social Security to take care of his finances, but that guardianship 00:29:33
was too invasive. We made our recommendations to the court. 00:29:40
And guardianship was successfully terminated and the young man civil rights was restored. 00:29:47
So we don't just take on the case because some because we get a referral, we like to do our due diligence, do the investigation 00:29:53
and make sure we make the right choice for that particular person. 00:29:58
There are mandatory reports the fiduciary must file with the court, which include inventory and appraisement, annual guardianship 00:30:06
reports to the court. 00:30:11
Annual accountings and final accountings, which include the proposed distribution, so we let the courts. 00:30:16
All the money that they spent throughout the year, all the income coming in, all the income going out and then once they passed 00:30:26
away, the proposed distribution. 00:30:30
Audit the Public Judiciary Office is audited by the Social Security Administration, the Arizona Supreme Court. 00:30:37
The Gila County Superior Court, the Gila County Finance Department and the Veterans Administration. 00:30:45
This is something that I've had sitting in my office for probably over 20 years and so I'm just going to read it to you because it 00:30:53
kind of makes me chuckle it sometimes. 00:30:58
To be a fiduciary, one must be courteous, diplomatic, caring. 00:31:04
Shrewd. Persuasive. Assertive. 00:31:09
Creative, Supportive, understanding. Responsible, Slow to anger, adaptable. A Sherlock Holmes, A motivator. Up to date, good 00:31:12
looking, have a good memory, acute business judgment. 00:31:20
Emotional stability and the embodiment of virtue, but with good working knowledge of sin and evil all in its forms. 00:31:28
A fiduciary must understand insurance, electricity, chemistry, Physiology, mechanics, architecture, physics. 00:31:36
Bookkeeping, thinking, merchandising, selling, shipping, contracting, claims, adjusting law, medicine, real estate, horse trading, 00:31:45
and human nature. 00:31:51
A fiduciary must be a coordinator, A clinician, a coach, a therapist and educator and an administrator. 00:31:57
A fiduciary must be a mind reader, a hypnotist, an athlete must be acquainted with machinery of all types and must know the 00:32:05
current price of everything from a shoestring to a skyscraper, an aspirin to an amputation. 00:32:13
They must know all, see all. 00:32:20
Tell nothing and be everywhere at the same time. 00:32:23
They must satisfy the payroll administrator, the accounts department, the Inland Revenue. 00:32:26
The insurance company, the supervisors, A solicitor, the insured, the claimant, the Law Society and the British Medical 00:32:32
Association. 00:32:37
Apart from that, our job's a piece of cake. 00:32:42
And I'm not all of those, but my staff, they help me with all of those things, so I'll disagree with that. 00:32:47
So not only do we have the public finishing, we run the public fiduciary office, of course, but we also do the indigent burial 00:32:58
program. 00:33:02
For the county. 00:33:07
The public fiduciary is charged with the review and approval of all indigent dispositions, requests and investigation into the 00:33:10
legitimacy of each claim. 00:33:14
All dispositions are by cremation unless there are religious objections. 00:33:19
Or the deceased is an. 00:33:24
Indigent disposition was originally intended for the burial or cremation of unclaimed or unidentifiable persons whom, for lack of 00:33:27
any other option, would be placed in a specific section of a cemetery. However, most applications are for individuals who have not 00:33:34
maintained family contact. 00:33:40
And no family member is willing or able to pay the expense of a burial. 00:33:47
The public fiduciary is contracted with a private investigator to assist in locating family members. 00:33:53
And currently we have a very good rate considering what other counties pay around the state. 00:34:00
We pay $410 for a non veteran and $560.00 for a veteran. 00:34:08
Hilla County authorizes cremation in order to reduce the burden on the funeral homes. 00:34:15
In 2023, we received 28 applications and authorized 19. 00:34:20
So in the other ones, Laura would have found another source, either a family member to pay for it, or another source to pay for 00:34:27
that burial. 00:34:31
OK. Do you have any questions? 00:34:37
Supervisor. Client. Tiffany. I don't know if I got a question. You know, I've all along I've kind of realized what you do, but I 00:34:41
guess I never realized to the extent you do it. And the only thing I can tell you is Mr. Menlo and us do not pay you enough. 00:34:48
So. 00:34:57
When you're dealing with somebody's life, basically. 00:34:58
Have you ever had? 00:35:03
Somebody from the family or? 00:35:05
Other parts of the family come back on you for whatever decision that you've made. Sure, sure. But what we like to do, there's not 00:35:07
a lot of family involvement, but when there is, we like to include them and but ultimately I have to make the decision. 00:35:15
So I I let the family know they're welcome to go to the court and become the guardian of that person if if they're not happy with 00:35:25
my decision. 00:35:29
But I don't run into that problem very often. 00:35:34
Good deal I I. 00:35:37
If there is family involvement, I try to have them be involved in the decision making. 00:35:39
Well, thank you and your staff for everything you do and and it's amazing. So thanks. Thanks for bringing this up today too. 00:35:47
That's good. You're welcome, Supervisor Christensen. 00:35:52
Thank you. Thank you, Tiffany. I appreciate you and your staff. 00:35:58
This presentation really helped me to understand the magnitude of what a fiduciary does. 00:36:03
And actually, my favorite part was the case managers creed. 00:36:08
And I'm not sure any of us can live up to that. 00:36:13
It's quite a quite a paragraph of qualifications and it is really necessary for you guys to have compassion, patience, all those 00:36:17
things when you when you're dealing with. 00:36:24
People that have mental issues or they're combative because they just don't like the fact that they're getting old and. 00:36:31
They're losing their rights to make decisions because they don't have that capacity anymore. So I appreciate you and your staff. 00:36:39
Thank you. 00:36:48
Yeah, I just have one question on a cell like the personal property, do you have an auction? I mean I've never seen anything for 00:36:48
sale. So I I I guess what I'm wondering and we have probably other people that are wondering how does that get? 00:36:56
You we can have an option. We have had estate. 00:37:05
Our staff has actually put those on. It depends on the value of the property. 00:37:09
Sometimes by the time we get in there, a lot of the contents are ruined and so it's a matter of just getting any valuables out, 00:37:14
getting all personal belongings and paperwork out. 00:37:21
And then sometimes we'll sell property as is it just every case is different. OK. OK. Thank you. I, I have no questions. I just 00:37:28
have praise for all that you guys do. 00:37:33
It's amazing. 00:37:40
Because the more I'm here, the more you see what Gila County actually offers to the constituents of Heel County and it that's 00:37:42
amazing because people complain about their property taxes, but they have no idea. 00:37:48
What some of the responsibility? 00:37:56
That staff carries. 00:38:00
To help people in Gila County because I think if they knew they wouldn't be a bit surprised if we asked for a little bit more 00:38:01
money. But but we're not. But thank you very much for, for doing what you do. You're welcome. Anybody else? Mr. Vice Chairman. 00:38:07
Thank you. 00:38:13
I will state that the fiduciaries creed that. 00:38:21
Tiffany does. 00:38:26
Live up to those of everything that is stated there. She does a great job to it. 00:38:28
I'd like to say that this is so often in government, particularly in county government, we are. 00:38:35
I think viewed as restrictive and what we. 00:38:41
That through the court system, the. 00:38:43
Sheriff's Office through planning, zoning, community development that. 00:38:46
Giving permits and doing those things. 00:38:52
Maintains integrity of the systems that we have and maintain a quality of life. This is one of those things that is completely 00:38:55
different, completely opposite of that that this is. 00:39:01
On Sunday, with a high of 56 helping those that are most desperately in. 00:39:07
Of services those. 00:39:14
Can fall through the cracks. 00:39:18
And they're out living. 00:39:20
Washes and. 00:39:23
Those kinds. 00:39:25
Now Miss Port, she does not get to choose her clients or the people that she gets to provide services to. 00:39:27
Those are determined by a judge and. 00:39:35
Giving to Miss Porch and her team those that. 00:39:38
They don't have anybody else, they don't have anything else. They don't have anybody to make a decision for them to provide 00:39:42
anything for them. But as Miss Porsche said that. 00:39:47
They're disabled. 00:39:53
Emotionally. Physically. 00:39:55
Being disabled in all those different ways they. 00:39:59
Before a client even comes to Miss Porch and her team. 00:40:05
These are the people that are in the greatest need that we have in our society. 00:40:08
And like and like this Porsche said, it is 24/7 but this is a 365 day job that the old this porch is getting calls. 00:40:16
At 2:00 in the morning on Sunday. 00:40:24
Three in the afternoon. On a Tuesday, it's every. 00:40:28
Of the year. 00:40:33
And she responds with a smile. 00:40:34
And willingness. 00:40:37
I do know few people that. 00:40:39
Respond and be able to. 00:40:41
Approach what she does with the attitude. 00:40:45
Loving. 00:40:52
That she. 00:40:54
And so I just. 00:40:56
You and your team are a fabulous example of what a great. 00:41:00
Service that we here as a county that we do provide that's required but. 00:41:04
The way that it's approached and the way the services are given. 00:41:11
A great tribute to you and your team, and so I express appreciation. 00:41:17
And I can't remember which one if you said that we don't pay you enough. 00:41:23
And you're holding. That's absolutely true. 00:41:28
The services that you provide are priceless. 00:41:31
So I. 00:41:35
Thank you, thank you, thank you for all you do. 00:41:36
Thank you. And I just wanted to say I have a great staff. They are amazing, they're very caring, They work really, really hard. 00:41:39
Thank you for all you do. 00:41:48
We have a member of the public here that would like to comment on this item, if that's all right. 00:41:52
Yeah, that that's fine. 00:42:00
They don't want to. Do we have a call to the public? I guess they can go ahead. Do they need to fill out the paperwork? OK, You 00:42:03
need to. Yeah. Come up to the Tiffany. Thank you very much. 00:42:08
Whoever you are, if you want to come up to the podium and give you your name. 00:42:14
And I think that there's a little call the public. 00:42:20
Paperwork that you need to fill out up there as well, so if someone could be sure that you do that. 00:42:23
Please come up and and share your information. 00:42:30
Mr. Vice Chairman, one of the other commenters coming up, I did want to point out that these are people of all ages. It's just not 00:42:34
the elderly that there was a couple examples of elderly. These clients are all ages throughout the spectrum and they're delivering 00:42:39
services to everybody that is in the. 00:42:45
OK. 00:42:52
NIT can we get? 00:42:55
So can I see the full screen? 00:42:57
OK. I can't see if you're there or not, but if you can go ahead. OK, go ahead. 00:43:06
My name is Bev Miller and well, first of all I did want to tell you get an alert you that this PA system inpatient is so bad. It 00:43:13
was kind of hard for me to understand the work. The pictures spoke volumes. 00:43:22
I really appreciate the work that these people are doing. God bless. 00:43:32
But it would be awfully nice to have a better PA system, because. 00:43:38
We just can't hear very well. 00:43:43
Umm. I mean, I kind of feel disenfranchised. I'm sorry, but. 00:43:47
It's a political word, but that's kind of how I feel. 00:43:51
So that's number one, number two. 00:43:55
So I what I'd like to ask is. 00:43:58
You know this Fiduci. 00:44:01
Committee are they're doing such great work, but have any of the church has ever been alerted because? 00:44:06
This is Christian work they're doing and you know. 00:44:14
I would think that the churches would want to know if one of their flock was in such dire need. 00:44:19
I can just. 00:44:34
No, it's a call to the public, Yeah. 00:44:36
Thank you. Go ahead. 00:44:41
Yes. And the 2nd and the second question is, I'd just like to know financially what this is costing. 00:44:45
The taxpayers. 00:44:54
Christmas. 00:44:56
OK, well, yeah, I call to the public. 00:44:59
We can't say much. I mean you're you're welcome to share with with the board and staff what you would like to. 00:45:03
But we we can't really ask questions. We can we can get with staff. 00:45:10
To. 00:45:16
Research. 00:45:18
But but yeah, during call to the public we we can't answer your questions. 00:45:20
Yeah, so I'd like my question answered in the future and my contact information. 00:45:27
I'm sure the board the board has OK, yeah. What you can do is reach out to your supervisor individually and perhaps maybe he can 00:45:34
gather some information for you. 00:45:39
Yeah, that's that Supervisor Christmas then. So he's standing right there. Are you sitting right there? 00:45:45
Thank you so much. OK. Thank you, Mr. 00:45:52
There, there was a complaint, and I may address the complaint that the facilities department has been. 00:45:56
Charged with working on the AUD. 00:46:03
For the Tommy Klein Martin. 00:46:06
Facility. 00:46:08
And so that facilities, we are aware of that and that issue is being addressed. 00:46:10
I know the courts. 00:46:16
Raise that issue as well and we are working closely with courts. We've brought in experts to help us work with that audio system 00:46:18
there, so. 00:46:22
Again, we are aware of it and it is being addressed. 00:46:26
Pardon. 00:46:31
It's also on YouTube. 00:46:33
That we're doing that. 00:46:36
All right. If there's, if there's nothing further, then I'm going to, I'm going to go on. 00:46:39
Regular agenda Item 3C. Information discussion regarding the process of the flood mapping project. 00:46:45
By the Federal Emergency Management Agency. 00:46:53
For Gila County, good morning. 00:46:57
Good morning. This is a hot subject, so inform us, OK? 00:47:01
Mr. Chairman, members of the board, I'm glad to. 00:47:06
Glad to be here to explain this. 00:47:11
This has been going on. 00:47:13
Oh, OK. Thank you. 00:47:16
This projects been going on for several years. 00:47:19
The. 00:47:22
I think that the LIDAR acquisition was the first step of it and that was started in 2017. 00:47:24
We. 00:47:31
Studies. 00:47:33
Flood zones that didn't have elevations we've had got some of that information. 00:47:36
That was started in 2020. 00:47:41
Last year, I mean early part of this year. 00:47:46
Uh. 00:47:50
We all met with. 00:47:51
And. 00:47:53
Went over our wish. 00:47:56
What all needed to be? 00:47:59
And we're really grateful for them. 00:48:02
To take on Gila County at this time. 00:48:07
I think there are a lot of other areas. 00:48:10
Need the maps updated? We're trying to help people be safe and flood prone areas. 00:48:13
And part of that is helping. 00:48:20
Understand and. 00:48:25
Find ways to comply with the regulations that FEMA. 00:48:28
Has put. 00:48:32
On the flood prone areas and we as a county are charged to. 00:48:34
Never heard anything enforce those regulations for FEMA. 00:48:40
It's been difficult because some of the maps. 00:48:45
KJAA dot very good there. 00:48:49
They. 00:48:53
Some. 00:48:55
Inaccurate topography. 00:48:57
To depict the flood hazard. 00:49:00
A lot of them were done in the early 80s. 00:49:04
And haven't been updated. Some areas have. 00:49:08
Of the Chairman. So we we got this Lidar data which is very accurate. 00:49:11
Very lot. A lot of data points. 00:49:17
That. 00:49:20
Elevation data available in every area that. 00:49:22
That we. 00:49:25
So now they can come. 00:49:27
Represent the real situation as it is now the state of the rivers. 00:49:30
So this is an update on the process that they're doing. 00:49:40
And this is. 00:49:43
Very good for Gila County. 00:49:45
They are doing the work, they're contracting things out. They're funding at 100%. 00:49:48
And. 00:49:55
We are getting our wish list, so we have. 00:49:57
Depiction of the flood hazard that people can work with to protect themselves and the property. 00:50:00
OK, this is what I was just talking about. 00:50:17
And. 00:50:24
You notice this term base level engineering. 00:50:26
And let me explain that a little bit. 00:50:30
That's kind of an automated engineering analysis. They use this. 00:50:34
Topographic. 00:50:39
And. 00:50:42
They. 00:50:44
And when I say horse. 00:50:45
Delineation of the flood prone. 00:50:47
As well as provide flood elevations. 00:50:51
That. 00:50:53
Protect themselves from. 00:50:55
And. 00:50:58
This is used where there's not an existing detailed study. 00:51:00
OK, a lot of these borschts have been. 00:51:05
In detail, in the past and this is not used on them, they do another detailed study to update them. This doesn't take into account 00:51:09
all of the. 00:51:14
Culverts. 00:51:21
Road crossings and everything goes in there but it. 00:51:23
Available information, you'll throw it. 00:51:28
They're not going to go out to survey and so on to find things. 00:51:31
So there's a base level engineering, it's a little bit less detailed, but quite honestly it's probably. 00:51:35
Better than some of our old detailed studies in my. 00:51:42
This. 00:51:50
In a lot of areas where you. 00:51:51
A lot of development. 00:51:54
It's about the same thing. 00:51:57
This allows. 00:52:02
Assess the adequacy of exist. 00:52:05
Flood. 00:52:09
Vote and provide elevations. 00:52:11
And increase the accuracy where they don't have any and also to provide. 00:52:14
Flood mapping in areas where there is. 00:52:19
Where it's just a. It's called the zone D which is identified. 00:52:22
Area identified as possible but unknown Flood hazard Which? 00:52:27
Really doesn't help people a lot. 00:52:32
And the flood insurance rates reflect. 00:52:35
That ambiguity. 00:52:39
Mr. Chair for my third. 00:52:42
Let us all know what LIDAR stands for. 00:52:45
Off the top of my head I'm I'm drawing a blank. But what it is, it's it's an aerial technique using LADAR lasers. 00:52:53
And reflecting back off the ground and. 00:53:01
Buildings and whatever. 00:53:05
To give an elevation at a point in there, you might have a square yard and be several elevation points in some cases. 00:53:07
So it's a fairly dense and fairly accurate. 00:53:17
Spot checks we've done with surveys. 00:53:21
To come very close. 00:53:24
So, so back in the 80s when they did a bunch of these math. 00:53:26
What did they use then? Was it just your standard GPS type or was it actual underground surveying? 00:53:30
You know, we we hope they got their benchmarks right. 00:53:39
They. 00:53:44
They created topography that was 4 foot contour intervals. 00:53:45
So every four feet they knew the elevation. 00:53:50
And there's. 00:53:53
Area in between there. 00:53:55
Somewhat inaccurate. 00:53:57
OK, so using this new Lidar technology that gives you all the information. 00:53:59
From ground level up. 00:54:05
Yeah, and they differentiate between ground elevations. 00:54:07
Building elevations and vegetation elevations, OK. 00:54:12
Mr. Chairman. 00:54:15
Lighter is an ACT. LIDAR is an acronym for Light Detection and Ranging. 00:54:21
In light, air, laser light is sent from a source and transmitter and reflected from objects. 00:54:27
In. 00:54:32
The reflected light is detected by the system. 00:54:33
And the time of flight is used to develop a distance map of the objects in the scene. OK, oh, a radar is sent to the ground and 00:54:38
that. 00:54:43
Brought together and now stuff the other topography. So then it's all done by aerial platforms in. 00:54:49
All right. Thank. 00:54:57
So it's it's they can get a lot more easily and more cheaply than. 00:54:58
Ground service and more accurately. 00:55:04
Sometimes. Thank you, Mr. 00:55:06
OK. 00:55:13
What? 00:55:15
These are areas. 00:55:18
That they're using the base level engineering arm. 00:55:21
Watercourses that are being studied represented by these blue lines. 00:55:24
So there are a lot. 00:55:29
A lot of. 00:55:32
Stream miles that are being. 00:55:34
In fact, 815 miles are slated to be. 00:55:37
Through this. 00:55:41
That are not currently mapped by. 00:55:46
So that's. 00:55:48
New information that we can provide to our residents. 00:55:50
Help them protect themselves. 00:55:54
And. 00:55:59
As I mentioned, brick structures such as bridges and culverts. 00:56:00
From readily available. 00:56:05
Can be included in this? 00:56:09
In the north part of the county, we also have. 00:56:14
A lot of areas. 00:56:17
Due to space level engineering. 00:56:23
Now also there are new detailed studies. 00:56:27
And I. 00:56:32
All of the areas that are studied by detailed studies now are being updated. 00:56:34
I know we have. 00:56:40
People that are concerned about the way it's. 00:56:43
And there are. 00:56:46
Areas that really need updating badly. 00:56:51
So that's. 00:56:54
And we'll have 82 new miles of re studies on on the detailed hydraulics. 00:56:56
OK, when they're res. 00:57:03
Some structures and looking at as built plans for. 00:57:07
For bridges and so on, and including all that information in. 00:57:12
This is a list of. 00:57:18
The rest studies that are being done, the detailed studies. 00:57:22
And I'm not going to try to read all those. 00:57:27
Fairly extensive. 00:57:31
Now part of. 00:57:40
Work that's being done is to relook at the hydrology, in other words, the amount of water that's coming down. 00:57:44
This is just preliminary, they're still working on fine tuning it. 00:57:54
But you can see that there is some change. 00:57:58
Largest change seems to be. 00:58:04
Tributaries to Tunnel Creek in Tunnel Bas. 00:58:07
And. 00:58:11
Going up and going down in some areas and going up in others. 00:58:13
Oh. 00:58:17
But. 00:58:18
Updated methodology to get a better handle on that. 00:58:20
Actual. 00:58:24
100 year flows that are coming through these washes. 00:58:26
So, Darden, you're talking about flows. You're talking about when it actually rains and floods those kind of flows? 00:58:29
So at any given year, that can change it. It ain't given place or location, right? 00:58:36
That's right. What they use for and that's what makes it difficult. So they have decided. 00:58:42
That they will use. 00:58:48
A flood that has a 1% chance of occurring in any given year, sometimes referred to as 100 year flood. 00:58:50
And use that. 00:58:57
Flood protection purposes. 00:58:59
Umm. 00:59:03
And obviously. 00:59:04
And then? 00:59:06
You don't know what's going to happen. 00:59:08
That that's what Congress decided was a. 00:59:10
Standard to. 00:59:15
That flood projection too. 00:59:17
I'll be. 00:59:20
So we're using the best available information now. 00:59:26
Estimate that, and a lot of it is. 00:59:31
Due to some research by the US Geological Survey. 00:59:34
And some equations. 00:59:39
Will Gener. 00:59:42
Oh. 00:59:45
Can be used. 00:59:46
Determine the flow rate to use that that's been updated since they were originally done. 00:59:49
I don't want to take up too much time on your presentation, but I have another question for you. 00:59:55
So besides flow rate. 01:00:00
When you when you measure a floodplain, does it come out of the center of the draw or drainage up a? 01:00:02
Amount or feet to be considered in a floodplain at whatever level. 01:00:10
Yeah, that's where the hydraulics come in that that analysis. 01:00:15
And they'll consider the shape. 01:00:19
Water. 01:00:22
Run up through this computer model and. 01:00:26
Determines how high the water would have to be. 01:00:29
Fill up that water course, that Channel shape. 01:00:33
And how high it would come. And then that's intersected with the ground to determine how far it is of a flood prone area extends. 01:00:37
So then, whether or not a drainage builds up with sediment or washes itself out is a big deciding factor. 01:00:45
That's a moving target and. 01:00:55
Yes. 01:00:59
Some stream maintenance does have to be done. 01:01:01
Take. 01:01:04
Debris that washes. 01:01:06
Growth that. 01:01:11
So yeah, there is a maintenance issue to this. 01:01:14
To maintain. 01:01:18
Excellent representation of what's going to happen. 01:01:20
Yeah. And I I think you know from a county standpoint, when I look at a lot of our drainages and I can use Tunnel Creek for an 01:01:23
example. 01:01:27
You know they get so built up with with stuff that and then we can't touch it because the TNA and other factors. 01:01:31
Causes our floodplains to expand, basically. 01:01:38
I guess once you would just put it that way. 01:01:41
That does happen, yes. 01:01:45
And there is aggregation building up of the bottom and degradation, and sometimes it goes up and down over time. 01:01:48
So what we're. 01:01:59
The best representation we? 01:02:01
Knowing that. 01:02:04
Oscillations, if you will, of the. 01:02:07
Parameters of the cricket goes up, down, grows up in vegetation. 01:02:11
Veget. 01:02:16
Washes out or burns out or something. It's dynamic system. 01:02:17
This is an effort to give it the best information that we. 01:02:23
So we can. I really love work. 01:02:27
So with that in mind, guard if you have somebody that's wanting to to build that's right on that. 01:02:30
Edge of a flood? 01:02:36
What would you say or what would you tell them? Because this year you could be right on the edge, next year you could be 10 feet 01:02:40
above it. 01:02:43
You know it's if you're thinking about moving target as far as. 01:02:47
Streams and and build up and everything in there. So how do we? 01:02:51
How do we make those decisions, I guess? 01:02:56
Well, that's where this. 01:03:01
1% chance comes in. It's a statistical. 01:03:03
Average. 01:03:06
Our representation of what's likely to. 01:03:08
Once in 100 years. 01:03:13
It may not happen this year, may not happen the next when. 01:03:17
2. 01:03:20
And adjacent years. 01:03:22
It's a better protection than nothing at all. 01:03:27
And. 01:03:31
We can say that they're reasonably protected and there are other things also. 01:03:32
Right on the Creek bank, we have an erosion set back in the ordinance for example. 01:03:38
That. 01:03:44
Requires people to. 01:03:47
So that's not likely to get a road during that time or a lateral erosion of the bank. 01:03:50
Or to provide bank protection then if they want to build closer. 01:03:57
I ask these questions because a lot of our prime land is already developed and and done. So what we're looking at as far as 01:04:05
development that I see in Heather County as a whole is we're looking at a lot of these areas that have been in question due to 01:04:10
foot lane issues. 01:04:14
And other circumstances. So going forward, me personally, I'd like to be able to. 01:04:20
You know, when I talk to my constituents say, hey, you know, this is a new system that can give us better data and know the system 01:04:26
enough to speak about it and so. 01:04:31
That's why I like board sessions. I'm glad you're here and I appreciate. 01:04:37
Efforts to help your constituents that. 01:04:42
I'm always available for questions as well. 01:04:45
So. 01:04:49
Next slide. Here is what will we receive as. 01:04:54
Deliverable product out of the. 01:05:00
And. 01:05:03
Hydrology updated flow rates. 01:05:05
Hydraulics. Where? 01:05:09
How deep and how wide the water is going to go, How fast? 01:05:11
We. 01:05:17
Terrain information that we didn't have before. 01:05:18
Then floodplain maps will be updated. 01:05:24
Now this current phase of the project. 01:05:27
Will. 01:05:32
Information We can write preliminary flood maps. 01:05:34
Sometime mid 2025, the estimate. 01:05:40
Estimate. 01:05:44
The information will. 01:05:46
The. 01:05:48
Pre. 01:05:49
Mapping. 01:05:51
Will. 01:05:53
Computer models so that if we want to. 01:05:55
Look at a what? 01:05:59
We can plug in some development, see what effect it has on the. 01:06:01
Umm. 01:06:07
And then after you'll receive this data. 01:06:08
There will be. 01:06:11
Public comment, review and comment period. 01:06:13
And then they'll start actually putting this on the official flood maps and generating them. So it'll be sometime. 01:06:16
I don't really have a time estimate I'm going to guess. 01:06:24
At least a year or two after. 01:06:29
We receive the preliminary information. 01:06:31
Have some flood. 01:06:34
It could be a little longer. 01:06:36
Thought I have, I'll probably have more questions for you, but anyway, in the 80s the maps were drawn for floodplains by whatever 01:06:41
method it was. 01:06:45
And so like right down through the middle of. 01:06:50
I keep hearing there's issues in where the floodplain is drawn. Yeah, especially Pinal Creek. 01:06:54
And. 01:07:02
Are are you telling me that this will correct those issues or at least put it? 01:07:05
It. 01:07:12
That's the. 01:07:14
OK, they're using updated. 01:07:16
Ground elevation information. 01:07:18
Updated flow rates. 01:07:22
And. 01:07:24
They should take into account any. 01:07:26
Culverts or bridges? 01:07:29
And so on. 01:07:31
And. 01:07:33
Yes, it should be. 01:07:34
A much better representation given the limits. 01:07:36
Technology and the variability of storms, of course. 01:07:40
That should give us updated information. 01:07:45
Prov. 01:07:48
Much better target to aim for, for protecting our property. 01:07:50
OK, so the the feds are doing this. They're they're they're doing it. 01:07:54
We're in the mix. 01:07:59
As a county. 01:08:01
OK. And then what we receive, we hand over to like the city of Globe or Miami or whoever it is. 01:08:03
Now all the cities and towns were involved in. 01:08:11
The meetings with FEMA to determine their. 01:08:15
And. 01:08:19
They all are going to be part of these new maps. 01:08:20
They'll receive all the information that we receive. 01:08:24
Pertinent to them. 01:08:28
OK, it's all public information. Oh yeah, he's heard. Yes. 01:08:32
Quite honestly, you'd be amazed at. 01:08:37
How not so many public pay attention to that? 01:08:40
And so until it's, it's happening. 01:08:44
Anyway. 01:08:48
Welcome. 01:08:50
This. 01:08:54
List of the expenditures. 01:08:56
For this project. 01:08:59
We'd see. There's about a half million for Lidar. 01:09:02
About 100,000 for base level engineering. That's done so far and there's more still in progress. 01:09:07
Which? Which? 01:09:16
Is included in. 01:09:18
Item 1.2 million. 01:09:20
Update the detailed studies and BLE studies for areas that are currently not studied. 01:09:23
And. 01:09:31
February 2025 I think I've heard this might be. 01:09:33
Mid year. 01:09:38
Sometime in 2025 that we expect to give us that. 01:09:40
Information. 01:09:44
This is this is the overall view of it. 01:09:52
We're in the hydrology, hydraulics, floodplain mapping. 01:09:57
Phase of the project now. 01:10:00
We'll go into the flood insurance rate maps in the next phase. 01:10:04
So what's been going on? A little while, but it's a big project, but it's. 01:10:11
Very beneficial to. 01:10:18
And just a summary of the benefits. 01:10:22
The LIDAR elevation which can be used for many things. 01:10:25
This is available also to the public for engineers to use. 01:10:29
On their projects. 01:10:33
And. 01:10:36
It's available actually on the USGS website. 01:10:38
One of their sites, Well, better information to help protect property owners to be safe and to protect their property. 01:10:43
And to get engineering information defining locations and severity of flooding. 01:10:54
So that future planning can confirm and quantify. 01:10:59
Severity of suspected flood problem areas. 01:11:03
And develop priorities for future planning to mitigate these hazards. 01:11:07
And that's all I have for presentation. Are there any other questions from anybody? 01:11:14
Supervisor, client, thank you. So darn when back that up. One slide please. 01:11:21
The hydrology hydraulic floodplain mapping, August 2023 or February 2025. Is FEMA doing that or are we? Remind me again, FEMA. 01:11:30
FEMA has contracted an engineer that they work with sexually. 01:11:41
Joint venture of two or three engineering firms. 01:11:48
And they are working with us, asking, asking for input and so on. So we're kind of a joint effort. 01:11:52
So they're not held up because of us right now though, right? That's correct. Cool. So if there's any way we can take a sharp, 01:11:59
sharp stick and prod them along and hit closer than 25, that would be really good. 01:12:05
Well, I wish there were, but I know they're doing a lot. 01:12:12
A lot of detailed analysis, and it does take some time. So this this floodplain issue for Hila County is bigger, bigger than a lot 01:12:15
of people realize there's we actually have businesses that are in the flood. 01:12:22
Actually physically, but not mapped in the flood plain. 01:12:30
Which can qualify for different types of loans and things like that. We have other ones that are outside of the floodplain. 01:12:35
Considered in the Flood? 01:12:43
That get that are in a situation where they can't get loans, they can't get grants, they can't get things like that. 01:12:45
That's why when when people talk about floodplain. 01:12:52
Issues. 01:12:57
It isn't just a matter of you pour water down the mountain and it comes out the other end or whatever. It's really the people that 01:12:58
are along those. 01:13:02
Those drainages and stuff and and because of policy and laws. 01:13:06
There's people out there getting hammered that aren't necessary that don't necessarily. 01:13:13
Need to be, they're not in it. And so because of the 80s maps and what I understand you know not only from here but from before, 01:13:18
those maps were incorrect when they were done and it placed a lot of people in some bad bad spots and and so to be able to get 01:13:25
this corrected in my opinion the quicker we get it corrected. 01:13:33
The better some people are going to be and the worst some other ones are going to be. I mean it's it's going to be, it's not going 01:13:41
to be good for everybody all the way around, but at least be correct to the where a floodplain should actually be. 01:13:48
That's what I would. 01:13:55
You know, so that's correct. And it affects also flood insurance rates. Yes, it does and it affects the. 01:13:57
Ability. 01:14:04
Get mortgages and floodplains. 01:14:05
It does. Thank you, darling. A lot of things. 01:14:09
I want to just. 01:14:12
You know, if somebody, there are a couple of locations currently. 01:14:14
Where people are trying to speed it up. 01:14:18
By doing the study themselves. 01:14:21
And submitting it to FEMA. They have a process a letter of map revision. 01:14:24
We have one that they're currently processing for Tunnel Creek on at Bear Flat. 01:14:29
And. 01:14:36
One on a reach of bloody tanks wash. 01:14:37
That private people. 01:14:41
Paid to have a study done and submitted to FEMA. So that's one option if somebody is in a hurry. OK, thank you for that. 01:14:46
Thank you pleasure to present this information. 01:14:56
Supervisor Christensen. 01:15:00
Thank you, Guard. Appreciate it. Very detailed and there's a lot to that. Appreciate everything you do and your team. 01:15:03
Thank you. 01:15:12
Yeah, I think it's great that this was initiated. I think it's great that FEMA is doing it. 01:15:15
Because we've had an awful lot of issues because people. 01:15:21
Are clearly not in a flood, plain or wave, but are on the map. 01:15:25
Because a lot of drainages have changed and those individuals are doing it because they have to. 01:15:30
And so hopefully FEMA when they get finished. 01:15:37
That the people will not have to do their own survey to prove that they're in or out of a floodway because now for insurance 01:15:41
purposes and things of that nature. 01:15:47
People realize, especially with with modern technology, you can check your elevation of your house with your cell phone. 01:15:53
And you look at a map and it's completely a different elevation. 01:16:01
And so you have to go through the money of hiring a survey. 01:16:05
And fight FEMA to get it changed. And so I think it's great. I'm glad that that that the engineering department. 01:16:09
Has sparked with FEMA to get this done for Gila County because our elevations go from 7000 down to almost nothing and and we have 01:16:20
a lot of drainage issues. 01:16:26
And a lot of people are going to be in floodplains that. 01:16:33
And out of flood plains that were and so like you say, we've got a can of worms to deal with and then it goes to the insurance 01:16:37
companies and you know homeowners insurance and things of that nature. But I'm glad that can of worms is open so. 01:16:44
Thank you very much for your presentation and. 01:16:52
Working with FEMA to help us help not only for future infrastructure, but for existing infrastructure that's going to change. 01:16:57
So thank you very much. Anyone else? Mr. Menlo, when I first came here just a couple months before, the current Board of 01:17:06
Supervisors or at least two of you were new onto as newly elected members of the Board of Supervisors. 01:17:13
I came to. 01:17:21
So there's Flood Control District. But the question I asked was. 01:17:23
Uh. 01:17:28
There was no property tax for the flood control district. I asked the question, are there no flood? 01:17:30
Related issues. 01:17:35
In Gil. 01:17:37
The respondent pause for a moment, then said. 01:17:40
There are no issues with flooding in Gila County. 01:17:45
So I express appreciation to you as a Board of Supervisors, to Mr. Veil and Mr. Delarack. 01:17:50
We're taking it serious that there are flooding issues in your county and that you have supported. 01:17:56
Doing this work that is now being done and so I appreciate that and it is necessary and important for us to address flooding 01:18:02
issues in the county. 01:18:07
Thank you for your support, members the board. I do have a question for Mr. Gilroy. 01:18:12
That you kind of have answered it, but. 01:18:17
If I can ask specifically, with all the flooding that has taken place, you've got, you've said that there's $1.2 million that's 01:18:21
being invested in the topography and the LIDAR work that's being done to accurately map all that. We've seen that with the 01:18:27
flooding and you'd say that there's changes. 01:18:33
Is this something that we need to expect that it has to have to continually upgrade these? 01:18:39
All the time? Or is it once we get these maps completely done in 2025, or as soon as they can be done? 01:18:45
Is that something we say? OK, we're good for 10 years. 01:18:53
What is the expectation should? What should? 01:18:57
And you mentioned that things change and we expect that this is continuous. 01:19:01
An. 01:19:05
Analysis of our floodways. 01:19:06
Are we actually we have the expectation that we're good. 01:19:09
10 years and don't need to do anything further. 01:19:13
There, there are there will be a need for continued upgrades. 01:19:17
Hopefully. 01:19:22
We get upgraded more than every 40 years or so. 01:19:24
But every 10 years like you say. 01:19:27
Probably not be unrealistic, given that that rivers do naturally change themselves. 01:19:30
And. 01:19:38
There are changes in the watershed, such as a fire we had here. 01:19:40
You know, that changed the waters. 01:19:44
A lot. And that changes how much water comes down. 01:19:46
Uh. 01:19:51
Runs off the watershed. 01:19:52
So there are things that just happen naturally that. 01:19:54
What affect our flood maps? 01:20:01
Accuracy. 01:20:04
So there should be some continuing update maybe to not every Creek all at once. 01:20:06
But especially after a fire burned 600,000 acres and see what it does to a community. Yeah, now. 01:20:12
There are temporary things that happen, you know, after a fire, there is some revegetation, and so on after a few years. 01:20:21
Umm. 01:20:30
Sometimes. 01:20:31
The community will look at that and. 01:20:33
An interim map developed for their own. 01:20:37
You know, states what's going to be until it revegetates it's back to normal. 01:20:41
And that's. 01:20:47
An option? 01:20:49
Usually they don't change. 01:20:51
FEMA flood maps for something temporary, but. 01:20:54
If it's something that's going to have a long term impact. 01:20:58
Yes, that's something. 01:21:02
Might be needed, Mr. Chairman. 01:21:06
And of course we did that after The Telegraph Fire and all that. We did have an engineering firm, Engineering firm come in and and 01:21:09
give us what? 01:21:13
What? 01:21:18
Flow rates were going to be and so we do address that specifically, but long-term. 01:21:19
A10 year and a 10 year that we should fact. 01:21:26
Work to get those long term maps done every 10 years. Thank you. Thanks for coming down to do your presentation today. I 01:21:32
appreciate you being here instead of there. Thank you very much. 01:21:37
Who's in the back of the box? No. OK, moving on to. 01:21:46
3. 01:21:52
Information discussion regarding services provided by the University of Arizona Cooperative Extension to residents of Gila County. 01:21:53
And a discussion with Gila County management about services resources provided. 01:22:05
To the University of Arizona Cooperative Extension. 01:22:12
Mr. O'Driscoll, good morning. Good morning, Chairman Board. So at your request, I put together this presentation. I and I have 01:22:16
invited the University of Arizona Cooperative Extension to come up and present the services that they provide residents of Gila 01:22:24
County. And then after they get done with a presentation, what I'd like to do is just give you an estimate in some of the 01:22:32
resources that we provide the University of Arizona Cooperative Extension, so you get the complete picture. 01:22:40
What they provide the residents and what we provide the university. So I see Mr. Edward Martin is here at his team and I'd like to 01:22:48
invite him up and go ahead and start the presentation. 01:22:54
Appreciate it. Thank you very much. My name is Ed Martin. I am the Associate Vice President and Director of Cooperative Extension 01:23:03
for the University of Arizona. And with me here today my CFO, Carolyn Greeno, as well as Renee Karstens with the County Extension 01:23:09
Director. 01:23:15
The Hill. 01:23:21
Mr. Clark Richins and Sammy Jenkins, Advisory Board members that actually you have appointed and and approved by the Board. So 01:23:23
what I want to talk to you a little bit today about is the question was where is our money going to for Cooperative Extension for 01:23:29
Gila County. And for those of you who may or may not know, we've been working in Gila County and actually in Arizona for over 100 01:23:35
years and we take the University of Arizona. 01:23:41
The communities throughout the. 01:23:48
We bring research based education to their communities and provide knowledge to help improve lives of the citizens of Arizona. 01:23:50
We have 25 offices. We have an office in every 15 counties. 01:23:58
We also have 4 satellite offices. Several counties have two offices as as you do here. We have 6 tribal offices and we have 01:24:03
agricultural centers, but we also do Cooperative Extension work. 01:24:08
What do we do? We're educators. 01:24:15
We teach. 01:24:18
We have classes. We have seminars. 01:24:19
We work, we teach on the range, we teach in the field, we have in the meeting halls, in the classrooms. 01:24:23
You give public present. 01:24:29
A regular newspaper columns and stories and on the radio and TV we publish reliable research based information. 01:24:31
And the World Wide Web is more needed today than. 01:24:39
And all of this is through research based. 01:24:43
What do we do specifically in Gila County? Well, we work with the agricultural community. 01:24:47
We work with the ranchers in H. 01:24:52
We work with. 01:24:56
Positive youth for each development program. 01:24:58
Yes, these are the folks you see at the at the fair, the kids that show the animals and kids that have the general project. 01:25:02
I can tell you that some of my favorite times are when I go to county fairs and get to work with our 4H. 01:25:08
I take a deep breath and I say our future is OK. These kids are feeling all right. We're going to be OK. 01:25:16
Financial literacy, one of the highest stresses of families. 01:25:22
In the United States is fine finances. We work with families on financial literacy, teaching them about loans. 01:25:26
He would have a daughter of my own, say I got a credit card and said they want me to pay it all back. And I said yeah, you've got 01:25:34
to pay it all back. Now they're charging me extra. I didn't know that. 01:25:39
I felt for sure I hadn't talked about that positive. 01:25:45
Talking about. 01:25:50
Making sure that we're parenting in the right way with our kids and all of the challenges that we have nowadays. 01:25:52
Health and nutrition. 01:25:59
Huge part of our program, not only in HALA County but throughout the state. Keeping people healthy, teaching them about nutrition. 01:26:01
We teach them how to grow the food. 01:26:08
We're going to teach them now how to cook the. 01:26:10
You teach them what the food can do for them. Food that you could eat that can reduce inflammation, Eating with diabetes. 01:26:12
We're going to teach you how to store the food. So when you have a little backyard garden, Lord knows that we've all had that 01:26:19
zucchini plant. We had some of zucchini that the people on the street don't want anymore zucchini bread, and they thank you for 01:26:23
that offer. 01:26:27
Well, how do you preserve that zucchini? What do you do? Do you freeze it? Do you cook it? You blanch it? What can you do? Can you 01:26:31
can it? 01:26:34
And we work with community and home Gard. 01:26:39
You know, we work with folks that are working in, you know, having a community garden with people who go out and grow their own 01:26:41
and also for home gardening. I myself am a transplant. I'll admit it. I came from Michigan 1992. 01:26:48
Came out here in Arizona. They interviewed me in November. 01:26:55
Thought this was the best place in sliced bread coming from Michigan. They started me July 1st. It was so hot I couldn't believe 01:26:58
it, but I stayed here for over 30 years now. 01:27:03
And so we teach people, yeah, these are the plans you should be planning. These are the places you should plant it. Yes, you can 01:27:07
buy it at the Home Depot. Yes, you can buy that plant. But guess what? It's not going to grow here. 01:27:12
It's not going to grow well. This is what you need. This needs full fun light. This need partial sunlight. How do you get that 01:27:18
home garden? 01:27:21
AG Natural resource programs, we have the Master Gardener program, that's a program that's a huge program across the state 01:27:25
volunteers that really help expand our capacity, increase our capacity to teach folks. 01:27:31
Working both with the youth and adults. 01:27:37
For ourselves, we work about work with that in biochar. 01:27:40
Looking at using biochar for fertilizer and other uses in our horticulture program. Reading the range. 01:27:43
We've been working very, very closely with the Forest Service. We just had a brand new agreement with the Prescott National 01:27:50
Forest. I'm reading the range and agreeing on. 01:27:55
As a capacity for our allotments, for the National Forest, for our ranchers. 01:28:01
It's a huge part of what we do. We have livestock producer workshops, we have AI workshops for them. We work very closely with 01:28:07
natural research, conservation services as well as the FSA, making sure that our branches are know what's available, the programs 01:28:12
that are available, how to apply it to where to go. 01:28:18
For each youth development has all kinds of programs for all witches. 01:28:25
Not only do you have to or not only can you raise an animal if you want and sell it at the fair, Yes, we still do that. But 01:28:29
there's other programs, there's programs in civic engagement we have. Can't we have community service that you could do, healthy 01:28:35
Living, STEAM programs, all types of programs. 01:28:40
You know, we even have a program now where we're using 3D printers. They're learning how to do coding. 01:28:47
Really. How do robotics so a lot of opportunity for kids. 01:28:53
We do have tridal extension here in Gila County, San Carlos. I can tell you this right now. Your money does not go towards that. 01:28:58
That's a fur tap program. Federally recognized tribal extension program is funded through the federal government. Did we help them 01:29:04
out? Sure we do. They have a program. They need an extra person to come out and help with the 4H program. Yeah, listen to somebody 01:29:10
else help them out. But they have their own agent. Their own agent is the one who does the programming. They work with us 01:29:16
directly. 01:29:21
Health, Wellness and family programs very strong. Raising resilient youth once again talking about. 01:29:29
Community health fairs and things like that. Teaching people how to eat healthy, teaching kids how to eat healthy. One of the the 01:29:37
nicest things is when you teach the child how to eat healthy, how they take that back to the parents and say, oh we should be, we 01:29:41
shouldn't have to cook it that way. 01:29:46
I want to carry it. I don't. I don't want to change. 01:29:51
And where are we in Hiller County? 01:29:56
We're in three places, right? We're. 01:29:58
We're. 01:30:01
And then of course we're in San Carlos, so we have three offices. You help support two of those offices. 01:30:02
How do you support? Well, we I kind of put this out? 01:30:09
I really wasn't sure what your cash and in time contributions are. 01:30:14
And then what I did is I compared it to what our expenditures are for the. 01:30:18
So I'm looking at her one, if it was $100,000. 01:30:23
Right now we are asking for 70,000 in cash and then. 01:30:27
Mr. Ojisco well addressed the end time. 01:30:31
You know, we spend about $425,000 for in our direct state. 01:30:35
That's wonder. It's a 1 to 4.3. I can tell you this if we took into account, which I did not take into account in this. 01:30:42
We took into. 01:30:50
The grants that we get that number double S. 01:30:52
And you're looking at 1:00? 01:30:55
We get over $400,000 of grants in Hilo County from our faculty and agents that work here in Helen County that you help support. 01:30:58
The day that I go out and they hire people. 01:31:07
And those people pay taxes and those people live here in the county and they buy things from the local grocery stores and they 01:31:10
then also buy things for their grants. Now I didn't include that because some years it's 400,000, some years it's 300,000, 01:31:15
sometimes it's 600,000. 01:31:21
I didn't want to include that. I wanted to be conservative, to just let you know. 01:31:27
Looking at 150,000, which I think we'll find out is probably closer to your cash and in time you know you're still looking at 1 to 01:31:31
2.2. 01:31:35
This year is probably closer to 1 to 4.4 and then 200,000 as well. 01:31:39
The key here is that for every dollar you put. 01:31:45
The cooperative Ext. 01:31:48
Direct. 01:31:50
Direct return of investment into the economy of Healing County. 01:31:52
It's not a 1:00 to 1:00, it's at least a one to two, and it's probably closer to a one to four. 01:31:58
AM 1240 FM 106.1 and online you need assessment. We did a needs assessment across the state. 01:32:05
We did the needs assessment not only here in Hila County, but in every single county across the state. 01:32:11
And across the state, everyone Overall SAD Water's number one water conservation. 01:32:17
Water quality, that's the that's our biggest need, but here in Hiller County. 01:32:23
You were telling wanted attention to qualified teachers was one of your highest. 01:32:28
Issues, priority issues that you want us to address. We have programs in our 4H which actually deliver. 01:32:33
The teachers in the in the schools curriculum that's already set up for the state standards. 01:32:40
So here it is in a box, in a folder. You can put it together. Talks about agriculture, talks about leadership. You can use this in 01:32:47
your in your right in your classroom, preventing child abuse. 01:32:52
And even #4 preventing domestic and violence, I'm not sure I was probably extension fit there. You know we're going back to that 01:32:58
positive parenting and that financial literacy. 01:33:03
Those are the stressors and families and stress families abuse children, Stressed families have domestic violence. 01:33:09
We can reduce the stresses in our families, we can reduce both of those. 01:33:16
And preparing for wildfires, that was a big one here of course. And that of course is the firewise program that we have that we've 01:33:20
talked about and we talked about preventative spaces. 01:33:25
We're looking right now working within a you to hire one of their their folks to help us with that and to start a new program for 01:33:31
us. 01:33:35
We working in cooperation and in partnership with the County Cooperative Extension. 01:33:40
Cooperative Federal government. State government. County government. We count on your support. 01:33:47
Day in and day out, we need your support. We need your support not only to provide. 01:33:53
Buildings for us to operate out, but also support for us for operations. 01:33:58
I want to thank you all for helping us improve the lives in your communities. 01:34:05
Economies across this county, and I want you to also think about the functional. 01:34:10
Impacts that we have, the impacts that we have that I can't put up there in dollars and cents. The 4H kids that are twice as 01:34:16
likely to give back to the community because they're in 4H, the 4H kid, there are three times as much not to use and abuse drugs 01:34:21
because they're in 4H. 01:34:26
The folks that called that Cooperative Extension after the Telegraph fire and said, listen, you need some help? I got cattle. I 01:34:32
got no feed. Do you know someone you can call? Yeah, we can call someone. We called someone, someone called someone else. Did I 01:34:38
deliver Alfalfa to those folks? No, I didn't. Did we didn't make the connections we should. 01:34:44
Again, when you need a fencing, someone who's been working on fencing. 01:34:51
Called this up and said, listen, we've been trying to get this grant from the floor service for fencing. We can't figure it out. 01:34:55
Can you do it? Can cooperative fencing you? 01:34:59
Within a month we had the. 01:35:04
Representative Kirk called us up and said how the heck did you guys get it so fast? And we said because we had sponsor projects 01:35:06
and you know the numbers and you know how to do it through the federal government and now we're putting up fences. That was burnt 01:35:10
out. 01:35:13
So we're here to do things like that. We're keeping people out of your health care system because they're eating better, that 01:35:17
they're learning about it. So there's all those other things that are intangible. I can't quantify it. I wish I could make it 01:35:22
easier and I could tell you that, say the millions. 01:35:27
You know, and health care costs what have you. But I can tell you that we're having an impact and we're having an impact because 01:35:33
we're all working together. 01:35:37
All working together as part of a team that's the team in Hiller County as well as the team in Maricopa County, as well as the 01:35:41
team across the state. And we're here to help you out. So that's where your money's going. 01:35:47
As a final, final note, I know you've heard a lot of news about EU of A and the deficit. 01:35:55
Cooperative Extension funds cannot go towards the deficit at the University of Arizona. Not only especially county funds, but even 01:36:01
state funds are not allowed to be used for that. State funds can only be used for cooperative. 01:36:09
And your accounting funds can only be used not only for Cooperative Extension, can only be used for heel accounting. 01:36:17
Extension. So I can't borrow from Hill accounting in case Greenland County needs a few 100 or $2000. It all stays in your 01:36:24
communities and discounts. So once again, I appreciate the support that you all give us. We really truly do hope that we can 01:36:31
continue this and hopefully you have seen it over the years, the impacts that we have had in Taylor County 2 property extensions, 01:36:37
University of Arizona. So thank you so very much. All right and thank you. Hold on. The Supervisor Klein, do you have any 01:36:44
questions? I do. Thank you. 01:36:51
Mr. Chair So. 01:36:58
Can can you tell me or do you have any idea when EU of A really became active in Gila County back in the day? How how long has you 01:36:59
have they been cooperative extensions been in existence since 1914? 01:37:05
So that's when it was official that the land grant university was, the University of Arizona is we have proper extension and we 01:37:12
started extension offices in all of the comments. So it'd be 1914. So we're coming up on a little over close to 110 years now. 01:37:20
I know for all of my time in Gila County, you know this one place I've lived. But U of A has always been a part of Healing County 01:37:28
through all the years growing up. And of course I I grew up on on several different ranches and seen the impacts there. You know, 01:37:34
whether or not it was. 01:37:39
Monitoring the issues or dealing with the feds or whatever it was, U of A was always in the middle of it. 01:37:46
With with us and and and. 01:37:52
Uh. 01:37:56
The data it provided and everything has always been a big help. The 4H program for all these years, even back when we were 01:37:57
actually when I was a kid. It was huge for for a choice back then too, just from the animal standpoint. 01:38:04
Kids raising animals and stuff like that, so. 01:38:11
OK. Thank you. Thank you, Thank you. Supervisor Christensen. 01:38:14
Thank you, Chairman, and thank you Mr. Martin for the presentation. 01:38:19
Yeah, I think that EU of A does a great job in Gila County and. 01:38:24
We need to keep building on that. I do have a couple of questions. 01:38:29
The you know, the reading, the range, all the stuff that you listed. 01:38:34
Is all very vital to Heila County And then? 01:38:39
We're going to actually, I think, try and expand the shooting sports part of the 4H up here in the Northern party, Gila County. 01:38:43
And so it's all really great. Now I have a question, maybe this is something that Michael is going to deal with in the next 01:38:52
discussion, but when you said that all of the county contributions that we give so. 01:38:59
We have $70,000 we normally give. 01:39:08
To the Cooperative Extension. 01:39:11
There seems to be this year a fee of 26%. 01:39:16
To get that. And you said that all the money stays in Hua County, but I I'm really unclear about how that worked and why that's a 01:39:22
new thing. 01:39:27
So $18,000, right? 01:39:33
If I may start so. So the the difference is is that in the past we have had. 01:39:37
Single Page agreement, which basically has stated that Gila County will supply this amount of cash in support of Cooperative 01:39:43
Extension and. 01:39:47
Operative Extension will operate in Hilla County and it's a single page. 01:39:53
And basically the county would send a check and it would be deposited. This year, the county has requested an IGA, an 01:39:57
intergovernmental agreement. 01:40:02
As soon as we do that, that means that we have to include what we call sponsored projects, which is like the grant. And so it is 01:40:07
treated as a grant, no longer a direct deposit or direct support of Cooperative Extension. 01:40:14
All grants must go through sponsored project. 01:40:21
Since we are off. 01:40:24
I'm not on campus. 01:40:26
Our rate is 26% of indirect at the university would charge any other agency and the other entity in order to do business. If we 01:40:28
were on campus, it'd be 53 or some odd percent. So. So what we have done is we have this, if you want to call it, work around, we 01:40:34
have grandfathered it in. The folks at the university said OK, we'll let you do that. So the county's basically signed this one 01:40:41
page. 01:40:47
That they will give us whatever the amount is for each county and send us a check. And the university does not take a red set. So 01:40:55
because this year you're changing to an IGA, that's where we're losing the 26%. 01:41:02
OK, so I caught most of that like we said before the the. 01:41:12
The speaker appears a little garbled. 01:41:17
Mr. Martin, did you say that you're doing a workaround? 01:41:21
We have, we actually have been for the past. 01:41:23
I don't know how many years, Carolyn. 01:41:27
30 years had this what we call workaround and that workaround. 01:41:29
That you just signed an agreement saying you support Cooperative Extension and here is the amount. 01:41:34
This year you have asked that we have an IGA, an agreement, which? Which? 01:41:40
Forcing us to go through the sponsored project. So we we've we've had that before. I understand from Mr. from Mr. Menlov that 01:41:46
there is a reason. 01:41:52
This is this is happening this year and so he probably can better explain the reason why. But yes, in the past we have had a 01:41:58
simple agreement. 01:42:03
That you sign we. 01:42:08
There is no indirect cost associated. 01:42:11
OK. I appreciate that answer and. 01:42:15
So I just wanted to let you know that the. 01:42:19
Yes. 01:42:23
The IGA was recom. 01:42:25
By our legal team and. 01:42:27
It may affect the. 01:42:32
It may affect the I. 01:42:36
The idea of continuing our funding, I don't know if it will or not, but $18,200 just get skimmed off the top because it's it's a 01:42:41
different category, it's a grant now, right? And so anyway. 01:42:48
That's all I have, Mr. Chairman. 01:42:57
Mr. Chair. 01:42:59
Go ahead. Do you want to go first or you want to wait? Go ahead. OK. 01:43:01
How do you work with the other counties? 01:43:06
You you do. They do they have a process like what we've been working under all these years? 01:43:09
Or have they got you guys rolled into an IGA? Oh no, none of the other counties have IG's. So all the other counties now have the 01:43:15
same process. So the way I was the I was the county extension director for Maricopa County. So every year I in January I would 01:43:21
meet with the county supervisors. I give my plan of work what I plan to do next year. They talk to me all I think we need to do 01:43:27
this, we need to do that. Sounds good. 01:43:33
And then they basically would sign and give me the money would be sent over the next January. We'd look and say this is what you 01:43:39
promised that you did, How did you do? We did pretty good. I missed on this one. Let's work harder this year and that's so that's 01:43:45
how we've worked year in and year out. So all the other counties we do not have this issue. 01:43:51
OK. 01:43:58
If we enter an IGA with you, that kicks it into this other grant correct thing. 01:44:00
Is that by policy of U of A? Can it be waived? 01:44:06
Only if you have something on your website that states that, or in your policies that states that you do not pay any indirect cost 01:44:11
for any grants. 01:44:16
So if you pay no indirect costs to any grant or if you have some limit and you have it written down somewhere that's on the 01:44:21
website or publicly available that people can look up, we can ask for an exception, but we still would be whatever that that 01:44:26
amount is. 01:44:31
Because I I'm not speaking for Supervisor Christiansen, but for me personally, I don't like seeing anything go anywhere but on the 01:44:36
ground. So I I agree if I if I may, speak. 01:44:42
A little freely. You know the other option. It could be that instead of giving us yearly every six months that you send us, we 01:44:49
signed an agreement with you that. 01:44:53
And so it's split up so that it's not a full 70,000 all at one time. 01:44:59
Does that change the 18%? 01:45:03
It doesn't change the, it doesn't change the 18%, but it might change the requirement from the county to have an IGA. 01:45:07
And once again, only the covenant can answer that. That's getting, yeah, Mr. Chairman, Sue Roger Klein. 01:45:15
What that does is it brings up low 50,000, which enables the kind of manager to sign this agreement, which in that case does not 01:45:23
go through legal because it's below a certain threshold. 01:45:29
And in that case not going through legal I can sign it. 01:45:35
And sending the 35. 01:45:40
Every six months or something like that. So that's a technicality that's within HILA County's policies. 01:45:42
Which would work for us because we charge we only charge every every quarter. 01:45:50
OK, just a second. 01:45:56
Members of the board. So yes, we do have that technicality where it's not coming from the table, however in this situation has 01:46:00
already been presented to the County Attorney's office and we do have Arizona revised statute 11-952, which talks about two public 01:46:07
entities joining in a contractual agreement in that in that statute it does indicate the requirements of an agreement that needs 01:46:14
to be listed out. 01:46:22
One of the requirements is that it does need to go through legal. 01:46:29
And. 01:46:33
That would be a choice of the board if they want to utilize that process, but also for U of A's knowledge. 01:46:34
It should be reviewed by an attorney and approved. As to form. I'm not sure if they would have the ability to do that if the 01:46:42
actual IGA does not comply with the statute. 01:46:46
I don't know that I know the answer to that either. Hello, work sessions, a lot of things come out, a lot of visiting, a lot of 01:46:55
visiting gets done. I appreciate your presentation very much. I appreciate all that you do for us. 01:47:01
I'm certain in my opinion we'll continue working together. I'm just not sure how because I think it's a it's it's a great thing 01:47:10
for all of us. And so I I appreciate your presentation very much and I believe here. 01:47:17
Go ahead, Mr. Min. 01:47:24
Mr. Chairman, I want to reiterate from an admin point of view, I know that the board has spoken to you that you support this 01:47:27
Cooperative Extension and the work they do in Healing County. So there's not any question of. 01:47:33
And all that you do, all that you bring, and all that you the work that you've described. 01:47:40
That is appreciated and it is a great benefit to get accounting. There's no question of that as far as I'm concerned in the. 01:47:46
It's this IGA and stuff like that, that the technicalities that are in law. 01:47:55
That we are trying that we are trying to address that. 01:48:00
Where these questions have come up, and I think you're getting to it, Mr. Chairman, but Michael did have. 01:48:04
Some additional information to present. 01:48:11
Yeah, I I know I did see he introduced and sat down. So I appreciate very much and if if it stirs something after Mr. O'Driscoll 01:48:13
gives his presentation, you're you're more than welcome to come back up. And so thank you very much. 01:48:22
Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the Board, I'll be brief so. 01:48:32
In order to get a bigger financial picture of what Gila County provides the Cooperative Extension, what I did is I worked with our 01:48:37
facilities, team and. 01:48:42
A marrow and the fleet team to sort of collect some. 01:48:48
Resources that we provide the Cooperative Extension. So the big majority of the resources we provide are at the two locations, one 01:48:52
in Central Heights, the office buildings out there and then up in Payson. And then we calculated an estimate. This is just an 01:48:57
estimate of an annual. 01:49:03
Total cost in rent. 01:49:10
Water, sewer, trash, parking spaces, those kinds of things. 01:49:14
Comes up for a total for both of those locations is about $80,000 a year. 01:49:18
If you add up all of that, and that's just a rough estimate, we didn't really get down in the weeds too much with that. 01:49:26
And also Fleet does provide and maintain the University of Arizona's vehicles. 01:49:32
But Numero did let me know that. 01:49:39
Currently Fleet is building them full cost for labor. 01:49:41
The hourly labor cost includes the labor and load as well, so they're maintaining it, but they're also billing the University of 01:49:46
Arizona for those costs. 01:49:51
So we did not include costs such as some of sometimes our facilities, personnel assist, the University of Arizona putting together 01:49:56
furniture, those kinds of things. I sort of left that out because that wasn't a big part of some of the resources we provide the 01:50:01
rent. 01:50:07
And the utilities are the major part. So it's about 80,000. I'll be happy to answer any questions. 01:50:13
Go ahead and provide. 01:50:21
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 01:50:23
Radio. 01:50:28
Michael, I think, I think for me personally you know knowing that that would be a cost that that that we that we have out there 01:50:29
that we provide. 01:50:33
Personally, the benefit that we get back from EU of A and for what it's done for Gila County through all the years up to currently 01:50:37
and what it's going to do in the future, I think is a cheap price. 01:50:42
And that's where I'm at. It's, it's. 01:50:49
If anything, the what? 01:50:52
What they've done already just in in one part of it, well, two parts of it 4H program and the reading the range program is 01:50:55
absolutely huge. 01:51:00
For. 01:51:05
And in the way it went and what it is saved our constituents that are in those areas is I don't know how you put a value on it. So 01:51:07
when I look at a if if it cost us $80,000 to support somebody. 01:51:13
That works with our constituents like they have done for all these years and continue to do. I personally look at that as a non 01:51:20
issue to me. 01:51:24
If it has something to do with the audits that we've had in the past, I don't mind showing it, but I would never want to charge 01:51:31
it. 01:51:35
You know, I, you know, we can show it as contributed or however we need to do it to show that this is what we're doing. But I 01:51:40
would never want to see that money coming back to us out of the. 01:51:46
I just don't think, you know, Mr. Martin talked and he's absolutely right. You can't. 01:51:52
I don't know where you'd even start to put a value on on the help of for our constituents that EU of A has been through all these 01:51:58
years. 01:52:02
And so that's where I would sit on all this. I look at EU of A and always have as a as a huge partner, you know, especially to the 01:52:06
agriculture side of things. 01:52:11
Which? 01:52:16
Umm, kids in 4H programs, all of that NRCD stuff, the whole 9 yards. U of A has always been kind of right there behind us all, if 01:52:18
not in front and so I think when it comes to. 01:52:25
Space rent how you want to do it? I don't. 01:52:32
I don't, I don't want to ever see us have to take a dollar from these folks. I don't mind showing that it's contributed, but I 01:52:37
don't want to ever see us take a dollar from that, so. 01:52:42
That would be my two cents worth. Thank you, Michael. Thank you Supervisor Christensen. 01:52:48
Thank you, Chairman and thank you, Michael. 01:52:54
Kind of. 01:52:58
Sticky things. 01:53:00
Mr. Martin said that none of the other counties are doing IGA, so I guess my only concern is before this ever comes to a vote 01:53:02
before us. 01:53:07
That there would be an exploration by staff to see whether or not. 01:53:12
There there is something else that we could look at. 01:53:18
And just go from there. But I I also agree very much that this is a very needed program and benefits Gila County tremendously. 01:53:22
Thank you. 01:53:32
OK, my $0.02. 01:53:36
When I stepped in as supervisor, there was a lot of policies and procedures that. 01:53:39
On. 01:53:45
We were seven years behind in our state audits, which kept us away from a lot of grants and things. 01:53:47
We've done a lot of work to catch up our audits, our staff has. 01:53:53
We've done a lot of work to step up for our policies and procedures. 01:53:59
Are above. 01:54:04
I understand all that's being done for us. I appreciate it very much. 01:54:07
And if and if staff and legal thinks that an IGA is important? 01:54:11
Then that's something that we need to workout with. 01:54:19
And and and as far as costs and things, I understand there's no way to put costs on, on the benefits that we get. 01:54:22
But we also have to remain legal and we have to remain. 01:54:32
Level with our audits for the benefits of. 01:54:38
And to keep ourselves out of lawsuits for our general public. 01:54:42
And so I appreciate this work session. 01:54:47
And I know that staff will work and bringing up the fact that we could do it differently. 01:54:51
And stay away from an IGA. Well now the legal team is is already looking at this and so you know. 01:54:57
We do not want to leave our backsides open. 01:55:04
Umm, either. And so I appreciate everything that that's being done. 01:55:08
With the the what you provide us with and I appreciate what staff's doing and I and I'm I'm grateful for this work session so so 01:55:15
you're able to come and present to us and I I appreciate the the work that staff has put in two different costs and things to help 01:55:22
us make. 01:55:29
A better decision as we set with with our attorneys and our accountants and to to make sure that that we continue our good work. 01:55:36
But it but it benefits all of us and and that we're not we're not doing something that. 01:55:45
Might not be completely above board whether the other counties do it or don't do it. We do things that other counties don't. So 01:55:51
it's it's whatever whatever your counting attorney will support you in is what you're recommended to do. And so I appreciate this 01:56:00
work session and all the input of this work session and I guess Mr. Minogue did you have something to add on this one? 01:56:08
Just. 01:56:18
Based on your input. 01:56:20
When? 01:56:22
What I would do is I can reach out to the auditor general's office. 01:56:23
And pose this question, it's it's not like, well, do we want to open ourselves up to the Auditor General? Well, they they know. 01:56:28
And to say, how are you addressing this and what is your recommendation? 01:56:35
Based on their recommendation of covering all. 01:56:39
All 15 counties for the state. What would their recommendation be and try to get their input so I can bring that back to you as a 01:56:43
board and say this is what the Auditor General is telling us to that we're going to work with the county attorneys? 01:56:49
And the auditor general's office and bring that information to you as a board. 01:56:55
If that would be acceptable. 01:57:00
Next step for us is the. 01:57:02
We can only make decisions. 01:57:06
On the information that we receive, so so the more, the better information that we receive. 01:57:09
We can have better decisions made from it. Jessica please VICE Chair, members of the. 01:57:16
So if it was broken down into semesters, I just want to clarify that it would go through the county manager. It would not require 01:57:24
approval as to form by myself. I've already provided my recommendation, so at that point it would bypass the county attorney's 01:57:31
office and so therefore you would just be looking at the recommendation of the auditor. 01:57:38
Yes, thank you very. 01:57:45
So you know these these work sessions are to give us all guidance. 01:57:48
And I believe with the discussions today that we that we have guidance to go forward. So if there's nothing else supervisor client 01:57:52
that that brought up a question for me, James, you know in the years past as. 01:57:58
But you know, as we're going through these audits and what Supervisor Humphrey said about our audits were true, we're way behind. 01:58:05
Is a huge nightmare for our for our staff, but. 01:58:11
Was there ever anything said about the way we were supporting U of A through any of these audits, I mean or do you think they just 01:58:18
didn't see it or? 01:58:23
I mean, it went through everything with a pretty fine tooth comb for the most part. 01:58:31
Mr. Chairman, Stuart. 01:58:36
As a recovering auditor myself. 01:58:39
I I really can't speak to the other, but I am going to make. 01:58:46
The issues with Gila County were so big. 01:58:51
That you want to get to the point where either county is auditable, meaning that they can actually come in and perform an audit, 01:58:54
make a declaration on whether our financial statements are accurate and truthfully. 01:59:00
And that is their intent. 01:59:07
Until they get to that point where? 01:59:10
Take a look at our financial position as a whole. 01:59:13
The other. 01:59:17
It's always relevant, but you could only bite off so much of the elephant at a time. 01:59:20
And. 01:59:26
Correct and get things better. 01:59:28
Some of these other things that may not have come to the surface, they do so. 01:59:31
And so we're at that point. We are caught up. 01:59:37
Thank you. 01:59:40
And team, but we are caught up and. 01:59:41
They are digging deeper. 01:59:47
And have many discussions with Marin about that. They are digging deeper and they are looking. 01:59:50
Individual transactions such as. 01:59:57
Determine. 02:00:01
According to law, like Jessica said, is everything. 02:00:03
Clear and evident in our financial statement that everything is disclosed as it should be. 02:00:09
And that's where these issues are now coming up because we have improved so much in our financial reporting. Does that answer your 02:00:14
question? 02:00:18
It did not. Not quite the answer as one, but it did. Yeah. Thank you, James. 02:00:23
OK. If there's nothing else, I'll move forward. Michael, thank you very much for all you. 02:00:29
I'd like to thank the University of Arizona Cooperative team for coming up here and taking the time for the presentation. They've 02:00:36
been extremely helpful working with them to provide the information to you, so. 02:00:41
Yeah, it's. I have a lot of public meetings and it's great to get everybody in a room because things come up. 02:00:49
And discussions that wouldn't come up otherwise that can help an outcome change. So I appreciate your willingness to to come to a 02:00:56
work session. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. OK. 02:01:04
Moving on to. 02:01:12
Information discussion regarding library services that are provided to community members in Gila County and how the Gila County 02:01:17
Library District facilitates. 02:01:23
No facilitates these services. Elaine, thank you very much. No, I was making sure I didn't mess up. Trust me, I didn't make. 02:01:33
You're good. All right. Thank you. Chairman Christensen, Vice Chairman Humphrey and Supervisor Klein. I'm here today to provide 02:01:44
you with information on the Hewlett County Library District, our seven affiliates on Branch. 02:01:51
And the free services and resources we have to offer our community. 02:01:58
So Hill County Library District partners with libraries in Gila County and we have one branch like everything else, we're divided 02:02:07
from north to South. We've got 4 libraries in the north, which is Payson, Isabel Hunt, which is the Pine Library, Tano Basin and 02:02:12
Young. 02:02:17
And in the South, we have Globe, Miami, San Carlos and Hayden. 02:02:22
And we have a new partnership with the San Carlos Library and the San Carlos Apache College. 02:02:27
We just recently moved into the same facility with them. Our old building was been out there condemned, it's been condemned. The 02:02:32
last rain they had, the light fixture fell down. So I was really glad that we were out of the building and we had a grand opening 02:02:38
in the middle of October. And we are currently and have been doing, adding the collection for the college into our database with 02:02:44
the rest of our public collection. So you can look in and see what collection they have along with all of our Public Library 02:02:50
collections. 02:02:56
All right, Libraries are more than books. They foster community through programming and activities. Libraries work hard to provide 02:03:04
free activities and programming for their patrons to come together. 02:03:09
To learn and have fun in a healthy and safe environment. 02:03:14
Libraries continue to partner and collaborate with other organizations and entities. They regularly partner with other entities. 02:03:18
Promote health. 02:03:21
Wellness and information that benefits the patrons and communities they serve. 02:03:25
There's free access to technology assistance, computers, printing, faxing, scanning, free Wi-Fi 24/7, and digital resources such 02:03:30
as our ebooks, our audiobooks and much more. 02:03:36
Libraries, librarians, and staff are there to help direct and assist you to find resources that fit your needs and most 02:03:42
importantly, they provide a safe space for everyone who enters their doors. 02:03:47
The Hema County Library District partners with each library to provide computer workstations for the. 02:03:55
These workstations are connected to the Internet as well as to our ebooks. Our databases and our resources and computers are 02:04:00
available to all ages, including children because that the little guys that come in parents are available to help them and learn 02:04:08
to use the computers appropriately. We are also SIPA compliant, which is the Children's Internet Protection Act. 02:04:16
And as you all know, we now have Internet, fiber Internet to all of our libraries and schools in Gila County. The last connection 02:04:24
was completed in. 02:04:29
The 1st of June of this year. Hurrah, hurrah. Big accomplishment. 02:04:33
The Hill County Library District understands the importance of early literacy. Public libraries across America have adopted the 02:04:40
concept of talking, singing, reading, writing and playing through the early to the Every Child Ready to Read initiative. 02:04:46
This program was created by the Public Library Association and the Association for Library Services to Children. 02:04:53
Through their early literacy programs, the Gila County Libraries promote and insert these concepts into their story times and 02:04:59
activities for children. 02:05:03
Additionally, during these programs, parents are instructed on simple. 02:05:08
As fun activities to help prepare their children for. 02:05:12
It's not the wrong way. 02:05:19
The next we have is the Dolly Parton Imagination Library, and through a partnership with The First things first, we provide a free 02:05:22
book for all children that are residents of Gila County from birth to age 5. 02:05:28
They received one book in the mail each month until they turn 5. If they started the program when they were a baby and they were 02:05:34
first born, they had about 60 books in their private library at home and these are all age appropriate books that as they grow and 02:05:40
get a little bit older, so do the books. 02:05:45
And this really cool thing is that the books are actually addressed to the child and not the parents. So that's an awesome thing. 02:05:51
A lot of the kids are just waiting every month for that that mailman to come and bring them their book. 02:05:56
Ways to sign up for the Dolly Parton Imagination Library? We do have access online. You can do it online, you can grab a brochure 02:06:03
at any of the libraries and mail it in, Give it back to the library, or you can call our office and we can get you signed up on 02:06:07
the phone. 02:06:12
So our Act One Culture passes are in the library. The Act One Culture Pass will give you and one guest free entry into any of the 02:06:19
participating sites as soon as you can see. We've got a few examples up there, The Reed Park in Tucson, we've got the Desert 02:06:25
Botanical Garden, The Cave Creek Museum, just to name a few. These passes are available for checkout in the libraries only that 02:06:31
you can visit our website and check the availability in your library. There's a total of 19 organizations that you can choose 02:06:37
from. 02:06:43
And as always and everywhere, there are a few rules. 02:06:50
You must have a current library card. 02:06:54
You can't put holds on the passes. You have to go into the library and what they have available that day is what you can check 02:06:56
out. 02:06:59
And you can only check out one culture pass per library card every seven days. And I will mention that this is actually Act One's 02:07:03
policies, not just our library policies. 02:07:08
So to learn more, you can always call the library or again you can always look on our best site. 02:07:13
Your. 02:07:17
So we have two different kinds of. 02:07:19
And what's the difference? Well, our first one is our E Resource card. And this gives you digital access to all of our things 02:07:22
online, including ebooks, the audio magazines and all of our databases that we have. You just simply can go online, fill out the 02:07:29
application and you can get your cards and we'll get it sent to you and give you the number off through an e-mail that you can do. 02:07:36
A full access card is actually one that you have to go into the library to get. You have to prove residency, and it gives you 02:07:44
access to absolutely everything that we've got, including what the resource card does. So you could check out the books, 02:07:49
magazines, CVS can use the computers. 02:07:54
But you do need to go to the library and prove your residency. 02:08:00
The Hill County Library District provides you with access to a wide selection of books. 02:08:05
By visiting her OPEC on the website, you can reserve and check out books online from any of our 8 libraries and pick them up at 02:08:10
your preferred location. That's what we call. If you are looking for a book you're hearing Globe and you found it in Payson, you 02:08:15
don't have to drive all the way to Payson. You can put it on reserve. It's called Interlibrary Loan and I get to be the red bag 02:08:21
Courier, so I get to bring the book from Payson back to Globe. 02:08:27
So it's a service that we we use a lot. People use it a lot in the libraries. 02:08:34
If you're not at your desk. 02:08:39
You can use. 02:08:41
Device any of your applications, your phone and download our La Brista app. And you can do all that on your phone just as well. 02:08:43
We also have a wonderful collection of ebooks, the audio and E magazines that you can access via our catalog. 02:08:54
Did the overguys side or through the app? If you're an e-reader and you love listening to audiobooks, and I do that since I drive 02:09:00
enough, I possibly have an audiobook in the car. You could download it onto your device and take it with you wherever you go. 02:09:07
And if you look up on the right hand part of the list, we have what we buy through OverDrive with our own funding, but we also 02:09:15
have an agreement with our partner libraries within the state. 02:09:20
That if you find a book that you want, say at the Tempe library. 02:09:25
And as long as it's available, you can download their copy and read it as well. The only difference is that you can't put anything 02:09:30
on hold with another library, you can only do that from hours. 02:09:35
We have many digital resources and GAIL is an online learning database with a lot to offer. Adults and children is both a tool and 02:09:44
a resource for the academic, the high schooler, the elementary school student. 02:09:50
The student appearance or anyone for additional learning resources. There are peer reviewed articles, full text, magazine and 02:09:57
newspapers, primary sources, videos and podcasts. 02:10:03
So what it might be of interest to some of you is if any of you are car mechanics and you kind of remember when I'm dating myself 02:10:10
back in the day when you had to go to the library and get the children's mechanic books, remember those guys? 02:10:16
Bin. 02:10:23
They were. 02:10:24
And they're expensive to buy for the libraries. Well, now that's all online. So the only difference between that and going to 02:10:25
YouTube for that information is you can get the schematics that you're looking for. If it's a wiring schematic or something, you 02:10:30
can get that on Chilton online instead of going and trying to hunt for it on on YouTube. So that's just a couple of the things 02:10:35
that we have. 02:10:40
With our databases and you can see lots of other additional things up there as well. 02:10:45
One of them that I'm really excited about is called Learning Express, and it's a great resource for the elementary, high school, 02:10:53
college students and adults. The Learning Express library can help you pursue your PED, providing practice tests, tutorials, 02:10:58
ebooks, study, interact. 02:11:03
In language. 02:11:08
Math, science and social studies and I had a great conversation with actually someone for library yesterday. 02:11:09
Her son was doing the GED testing through the county, and he's passed all of his courses but math. 02:11:15
And he's had a horrible time. 02:11:22
So she actually went on to Learning Express yesterday and thought, I'm going to take that test and see if I can pass it. She's 02:11:24
been out of school for quite some time and she said I just barely passed. 02:11:29
She says. But at least I look to see what he's looking at, what he needs to know, and the tutorials that I'm going to show him to 02:11:35
help him go over the things that he's having problems with. So great 24/7 access brief, the library card. The additional things in 02:11:42
Learning Express are career preparation courses for people stepping into the workforce. 02:11:49
Information along different career fields, job searches, workplace skills, helping to prepare for these exams, additional help for 02:11:56
those seeking certificates in allied health, CDL, cosmetology, law enforcement, real estate teaching, and more. 02:12:04
And just a reminder, this is kind of what the website page looks like. If you are trying to go back into the work field and you 02:12:11
haven't been been in the workflow for a while and you need some computer skills, this is a great place to brush up on Microsoft 02:12:18
Word, Excel. Or if there's a new you've just got new update on your computer of the newest Excel program, go here and you can 02:12:24
learn about some of the changes that from 1 Excel that you know to the next. So great information here. Just remember that none of 02:12:30
these are the actual. 02:12:36
Tests themselves. There tests to help you prepare for that. 02:12:42
And we have Britannica Library online. Remember those big Britannica books that we used to buy that took up a lot of room? It's 02:12:48
now online. 02:12:54
It's for children, for teens, and for adults. All kinds of different. Same information that's in the actual book itself, but it's 02:12:59
all online and it's easier to find. You don't have to go to that index in that big old book and try to find which page do I need, 02:13:05
which book do I need to go to? You pull it up and if you're looking for. 02:13:10
Pull it up and it's just right there. So, so much more information and so much easier. And it's a safe space for our kids. 02:13:17
One of the last ones I want to talk about is Ancestry. Ancestry if you are trying to do some of their history of your family. 02:13:24
If you go to Ancestry, it is very expensive to buy online with your library card in the library. This is one of them, the only one 02:13:33
that you actually have to be in the library. 02:13:38
That you can do all of your searching on Ancestry for free in the library. So a great, great resource. Again, it's the only one 02:13:43
that is in the library. You can't do it remotely, and I apologize, but that's the way they do it. That's how they got it. 02:13:49
And the last one is pronunciator. This is where you can learn your languages if you're going. If you're going to Thailand and you 02:13:57
want to learn some Thai, download it on your phone. Take it with you when you're in the car traveling, and learn your language for 02:14:01
free. 02:14:05
All right. So let's change our focus now to a little bit about what the library district specifically does. How does the Library 02:14:12
district work in relation to our eight libraries? 02:14:17
So seven of our eight libraries are affiliates. That means they're run by their city, town or library board. Hayden Library is our 02:14:22
only branch and the library district overseas the day-to-day running of that library. 02:14:28
The library district receives funds through a secondary tax. 02:14:36
Those funds are divided between the Library Service Agreements, which is direct funding to each of those libraries. 02:14:40
Then we also provide funding for connectivity, E rate expenses, shared databases. 02:14:47
Our integrated library system licensing and staff training. 02:14:52
Connectivity includes computers, printers, firewalls, security, all that kind of fun stuff. And databases include all the stuff 02:14:57
that I just talked about, including Ancestry, Pronunciator, Learning Express, and OverDrive. 02:15:03
Now our ILS system, which is the integrated library system, is the database that we use to keep track of our collections at each 02:15:09
of the libraries and our patrons and they check in and check out. 02:15:15
And then licensing includes wireless printing, website management, movie licensing, OverDrive, and then the IO system as well. 02:15:21
So we have been doing some new rebranding of the library. 02:15:31
And we have a new library website. 02:15:35
There we go. And if you've ever looked at our website in the past, it was born. 02:15:41
This one is much nicer to look at, much easier to maneuver around, better information on it. As you can see on the top right hand 02:15:45
corner, it says apply for a library card. That's the resource card. You just go in and you fill out the form. Easy peasy, done if 02:15:52
you wanted to. And the next one over to that where it says catalog login with your library card. You can go in there, log into 02:15:58
your account, find out what books you got checked out when they're doomed. 02:16:05
And if you forgot to bring your DVD DVD's back, you might have a little bit of refinement. That's the only thing you might have. 02:16:12
If you're just in general wanting to search to see if we have any of the books, specific book or an item or a DVD, you could just 02:16:18
hit that search the catalog. 02:16:22
If you look kind of down in the middle, you'll see where it says act when culture. 02:16:26
That's what we spoke about. Umm. 02:16:30
Quite. Click on that. That'd be great. And that shows you. 02:16:33
All of the passes that Scroll down a little bit, that shows you all of the passes that we've got. It tells you if you click on 02:16:36
each into any one of them, it'll give you where they're at, their address, their hours, their contact information. So lots and 02:16:42
lots of good information on that for for the culture passes, for instance. 02:16:47
Last the home. 02:16:54
And Scroll down a little bit. 02:16:57
Keep going. 02:16:59
So this gives us an idea of our library hours and their closures for the holidays. 02:17:01
You're going and there's Valley, part Imagination Library, where if you have a kiddo, you're a resident of the county. 02:17:07
Click on that and you can sign up for the Dolly Parton Imagination Library, Easy peasy. And then right there we talk about we have 02:17:14
partnered with. 02:17:19
Health department in the county and we provide free COVID tests, Narcan kits and fentanyl strips at all of our libraries. So you 02:17:25
can click on that and get a little bit of information from there. The other thing that we have added to our website is the. 02:17:31
Super, super fun site. The EPA had asked us to make that available to our public and so that's under under community you can find 02:17:40
that and click on all kinds of lovely things. So yeah we're all we're good we'll we'll get out of that. 02:17:48
I'm going to go back to the carpark team. Thank you, ma'am. OK, so. 02:17:57
2023 in review. 02:18:04
So library visits for all of the eight of our libraries for the year 132,000 visits, that's about 2600 people visiting one of our 02:18:05
libraries each week. 02:18:10
Library cards that are current card holders 22,000. 02:18:15
The items that we physically owned within all about eight of our libraries. The physical items which are DVDs, books, audio books. 02:18:19
Magazines. Even puzzles. 02:18:26
206,000. 02:18:29
And of those items, 168,200 were borrowed for the year. Quite a bit of of usage of all of our items. 02:18:30
The next one is books that we own, ebooks, audio and E magazines that ate little over 8000 items and those items that were 02:18:39
borrowed was 21,660. 02:18:44
This number does include some of our partners. So for instance, seeing one that was in Tempe and they wanted to borrow one of our 02:18:49
books, we get to count that because it did get checked out. 02:18:54
That those numbers have really accelerated since COVID. COVID really bumped those up when we had some of our libraries closed, so 02:19:00
those have really bumped up a lot. 02:19:03
Public computer sessions. So for the year 16,350 sessions, that's people walking into the library, actually logging on to our 02:19:09
public computers. We. 02:19:13
100 public computers throughout this county and that's 41 minute average session per computer. Some of those people like to stay 02:19:18
on a lot longer than 41 minutes. And so we're on the committee to check their e-mail then they're out of there. So, but that's an 02:19:25
average public Wi-Fi hits 90,850. So that's a lot of people that sit in the parking lot. 02:19:31
When we're closed. Evenings, weekends. 02:19:38
Doing Facebook, whatever they're doing, some of them, I think everyone watching videos sitting in the parking lot because I've 02:19:42
been there and watched them. Overall, we have 34 library staff within the eight libraries and County Library staff that's just 02:19:47
here at the library district. 02:19:51
4.550 E So as you all know, we've got about 4800 square miles in Gila County. 02:19:56
And I thought this was a. 02:20:03
Last year for visits, traveling and mentorship. 02:20:04
I traveled over 26,000 miles just to myself. That doesn't include my. 02:20:08
So I get to go lots of places. 02:20:13
So what's new? Our new website, we've increased our social media presence on Facebook and Instagram and a Pinterest account as 02:20:17
well. We've got new branding. So this is some of the little bit of an indication of some of our new branding. We have a new online 02:20:22
staff training module called Niche Academy and we're trying to get a lot of our library staff some additional training because 02:20:27
they can't leave the library. 02:20:33
So we're giving it to them online. Our culture passes are new and then a new one that we're trying up and have been doing is a 02:20:39
one-on-one library librarian hop. So if we have someone that just got. 02:20:44
We're going to have a lot of this after Christmas, the new e-reader, and they can't figure out how the heck to use it or how to 02:20:49
download their ebook. 02:20:52
We're gonna help you. We're gonna do a one-on-one session, yeah. 02:20:57
So that's all I got for today. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer them and thank you for your time. 02:21:02
Supervisor client Elaine, thank you. 02:21:10
You've been very busy and looks really good, so thank you so much for you and your staff and everything you do. 02:21:13
Supervisor Christianson. 02:21:20
Thank you, Elaine. I really appreciate all that you do. And it's a big, it's a big job. You just pointed that out. There's a lot 02:21:22
going on. So I appreciate you very much and all your staff. Thank you. Thank you. 02:21:28
You know what? What a what a great thing to have Internet to all the libr. 02:21:36
And, you know, talk about the world with your fingertips. If if somebody wanted to home school anymore, I mean, what kind of an 02:21:41
education they could grow as much as they wanted to, as fast as they wanted to and. 02:21:47
It's a great thing. And so I thank you very much for all you do and your presentation. Thank you, Chairman. We do have a member of 02:21:54
the public that would like to make a comment. 02:21:59
Name and address. 02:22:08
Jeff Miller Payson, AZ. 02:22:11
So, umm. 02:22:15
I, as a citizen and as a parent vote I'm I've been concerned about. 02:22:18
I guess the lack of censorship as far as morality. 02:22:27
That. 02:22:31
I have heard even locally, but you know of course other places. 02:22:33
But anyway, I just wondered. 02:22:38
It's our protective measures, I actually was told by one of the librarians in our county. 02:22:42
That if you. 02:22:50
If you are a drag queen person and wanted to do a story hour, you were allowed to do that. 02:22:53
That was a while back, so I don't know if that's changed, but that was very concerning. I was pretty shocked when I heard that. 02:23:01
I don't have a lot of times where I can voice my concerns, so I'm using this as definitely as a sounding board, and so I'm 02:23:09
concerned about that. I'm concerned that there's some materials in the library that are immorally not appropriate for children 02:23:15
that are they're in the children's section. 02:23:21
I'm worried about this whole gender diversity fluidity. 02:23:28
Stuff that seems to have overtaken our society, just like in the last year all of a sudden. 02:23:33
And I feel like we as citizens and parents need to speak out very strongly about that, that we don't want it to be in our schools 02:23:42
and our libraries. 02:23:46
And we don't want anything pushed that that that is immoral to our vow then. 02:23:51
Goes against our values, basically. So I wanted to express my opinion. I think I speak for a lot of people who. 02:23:59
Who either don't or haven't been able to express their opinions, and I I would like information about that and and Elaine, I'd I'd 02:24:09
like you know to know who I could. 02:24:15
Talk with about this and getting information and maybe influence. 02:24:22
If if things are happening in our in our local library, so those are my comments. 02:24:28
And thank you very much. 02:24:37
OK. Thank you. 02:24:43
Mr. LOVE. Go ahead. Mr. Chairman, I just wanted to point out that we do. 02:24:46
The Thank you, Elaine. 02:24:53
And spoke rubber that, for all of your support, your energy and enthusiasm is contagious. 02:24:55
And that is exactly what is needed for our library system and the great services to deliver to all the residents and citizens of 02:25:01
Gila County. So thank you, thank you for all you do. 02:25:06
I didn't want to point out that we do. It is a secondary taxing district, the library district. 02:25:12
And. 02:25:17
That a vast majority of all those revenues that are collected are distributed to all of the libraries throughout Gila County. 02:25:19
Based on populations, different factors is how that's distributed. 02:25:27
All. 02:25:32
Municipal the incorporated season towns. They have citizen their citizens. They are city or town libraries. 02:25:34
And we do provide financial support. 02:25:42
Those libraries that are for Fine and young Tunnel Basin. 02:25:45
And. 02:25:51
Heyman Winkelman, they are not. Well, Hayden Winkleman's a different story, but those that are not within Incorporated Season 02:25:51
Town, the support that the county gives to those libraries is is really their only financial support that they have to run and 02:25:56
exist on. 02:26:02
And they. 02:26:08
Almost exclusively on volunteers, so we've expressed appreciation to the volunteers. 02:26:11
And to those that have. 02:26:17
Libraries and provide those services to the unincorporated, seasoned towns of Youth County. Thank you, Mr. 02:26:20
OK. Thank you. If there's nothing further then thank you. I will move on. 02:26:27
For call to the public, do we have any public that cares to speak that hasn't already up and facing? 02:26:35
Yes, Sir. We have at least two people that would like to speak on call of the public, OK, And they filled out their little cards 02:26:44
and if you would, if you would announce your name when you come up. 02:26:50
Whomever is first is welcome. And I'm sorry I don't know your name because I don't have your phone. That's OK. 02:26:57
And I'll start my stopwatch. So I'm within my time right now. Well, thank you. 02:27:04
My name is Glenn Gelster and I'm here in Payson. I'm a resident here for 32 years. 02:27:10
So I'm still a newcomer here. 02:27:16
Couple of things I was thinking about it. I'm here. 02:27:19
I have no agenda and I'm not on the agenda today. So why am I here? I'm here because citizens need to be more engaged. 02:27:23
Constituents, their constituents need to be here. When I look at an empty gallery here, there's no one here, and the only people 02:27:30
that show up are people who have something on the agenda. We need to be involved and we need to encourage each one of you. This 02:27:36
morning I was praying for all of you. 02:27:41
Each one of you personally. And what was I praying? I was? 02:27:48
And it says the first Timothy two first of all, then I urge the petitions, prayers and intercessions, and thanksgivings be made 02:27:52
for everyone, for kings and all those who are in authority, so that we may lead a tranquil and quiet life in all godliness and 02:27:59
dignity. But I've heard here today is you have a multitude of issues. 02:28:06
You have only 5000 square miles that you're covering. 02:28:13
And we need to come alongside you and help you wherever we can and to pray for you. And as we see things you're addressing an 02:28:17
issue today about mapping and floodplain, well, there's similar issues on. 02:28:24
Different subjects. We had the Backbone fire. 02:28:31
July of 2021 that nearly took out pine and strawberry. Well, what are the unintended consequences of that fire? There are people 02:28:35
up there and businesses that are losing their ability to have fire insurance. 02:28:43
They've been placed on a list. They've been placed, they've been ma. 02:28:51
By the either the Forest Service or someone else. 02:28:55
In an area that insurers do not want to insure. 02:28:58
Those people anymore. So I'm bringing this to the supervisors attention today because it's something you'll have to be addressing 02:29:03
in the future as people don't have the ability to get fire insurance anymore and find strawberry. That's one issue. There's 02:29:11
another issue I've been thinking about and that issue deals with a number of jurisdictions around the nation, local, both cities, 02:29:19
towns and counties are looking at and some have already made themselves a Second Amendment sanctuary county. 02:29:26
And or challenge, because what we have now is we have. 02:29:35
Assaults on our ability to maintain the Second Amendment and we need to push back against that on a local level as well as we. We 02:29:40
have many terrorists coming across our southern border. We have no idea how many there are, but there's a lot of them coming 02:29:47
across. We need the ability to protect ourselves, and unless we have that ability, unless we have, unless we designate ourselves 02:29:54
and have a proclamation of a Second Amendment sanctuary county, then we may lose that ability to defend ourselves. 02:30:01
Thank. 02:30:10
Thank you very much. 02:30:11
OK, Staff Miller again. 02:30:24
So, so I'm I'm changing subject but not really when we think about it because I feel like most I should say sane. 02:30:27
People who are who have their eyes open at all. 02:30:42
See that our country. 02:30:46
Has really. 02:30:48
Gone down the hill in many ways. 02:30:50
What we kind of are. 02:30:55
Taken for granted now would have been like absolutely. 02:30:58
Umm, you know, denied or not allowed in in just a few years ago? 02:31:04
The fact that we're we're thinking it's OK for the military to allow people to have operations that change their sexes, I mean 02:31:13
that that. 02:31:19
All of it, anyway. 02:31:26
Going to elections, which is kind of the root of our problem, I believe. 02:31:30
They've done a lot of things discovered. 02:31:35
And the supervisors of Gila County? You have a problem. 02:31:39
The people have lost faith in our elections. 02:31:43
Unfortunately, they're losing faith in our elected officials, too. 02:31:48
I think people see you. I don't think this is accurate, but I think people see you as prideful, lazy, with willed ignorance. Not 02:31:54
not. 02:31:59
Not being proactive and getting information so. 02:32:07
Mr. Jim O'Connor, who is a corporation commissioner. 02:32:12
Wrote a letter to all of you supervisors and he listed many things that that at minimum you need to be doing. 02:32:16
There's this. 02:32:26
It's like. 02:32:29
Satellite system that they discovered very recently called Firstnet. 02:32:30
And that really takes away all of the privacy. It's a direct I hear, I hear people saying all the time. 02:32:36
All our machines aren't aren't connected to the Internet. Well, they don't have to be connected to the Internet, the first net. 02:32:44
Can. 02:32:53
You know, communicated with directly. 02:32:56
So and also the problem is with our. 02:32:59
Machine. What is it called? The the counselor machine and he pull up. 02:33:05
Yes. And now they. 02:33:12
Are not even allowed to be looked into by the vendor, I mean. 02:33:17
And we can trust, but we need to verify. 02:33:21
Vote and I I think, Holly, of our elected officials, I feel like we can, I feel like we can prove them to be correct if we have a 02:33:25
hand count. So I want us to have a hand count. 02:33:31
And I want it to. It can be. It can be. 02:33:39
Parallel with the machine count. That would be fine, but I've been studying a handout method called the Missouri Handcuff. It's 02:33:42
very doable, especially in our county. We don't have that many ballots, and I urge you urge you to allow us to do hand counts for 02:33:49
the PPE in 2024. 02:33:55
Now your 3 minutes are up. We appreciate your comments. 02:34:03
If any of the supervisors care to respond to the criticism. 02:34:08
They are welcome to, but that's the only thing that we can do. 02:34:13
Supervisor Christian, do you care to respond to the criticism? 02:34:18
About being lazy and incompetent. 02:34:22
Elections and things of that nature. 02:34:25
No, thank you, Chairman. I I don't care to comment. OK, supervisor, fine, I I I will comment. 02:34:29
Miss Miller, you're looking at three guys that take elections and everything very, very seriously. Not only that, but all of our 02:34:38
positions. Very seriously. 02:34:42
We we have. 02:34:47
We've been over backwards to cover all of our election stuff. We have high faith in all of our department directors. 02:34:50
We have not had a what I would call an issue in Gila. 02:34:56
And that's the only place where this supervisor is focused. 02:35:01
There's nothing I can do to change the state elections or the state. 02:35:05
Statutes that govern elect. 02:35:09
And we've been over this quite thoroughly. 02:35:12
And had a big working work session on it and I think that speaks volumes for the. 02:35:16
For the supervisors that he the county has right now. 02:35:22
And we've addressed the hand count and everything else, and we're not. 02:35:26
I am not. I can't say we 'cause I cannot speak for the other two. I am not in favor of hand counts and not going to be. 02:35:32
And I want to make sure that he Lake County has all its bases. 02:35:39
But that's the extent of it and and I think as a constituent. 02:35:44
I'm just suggesting that you sit back and take a look at our track record us 3 supervisors. 02:35:49
Especially two of us for seven years that we have come a long ways on this county. 02:35:56
And building our programs and put a lot of hard work and. 02:36:01
Faith into this county to be where we are today, and I honestly don't believe that anyone of us want to jeopardize that in any 02:36:06
way. 02:36:10
Thank you. Thank you. Wait, WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT. It's our turn to respond. 02:36:14
And as far as, you know, criticism, we have not had any issues directed at Gila County, that we've had any problems with our 02:36:21
elections. And as far as being lazy and incompetent, apparently you're not one of my constituents because I have monthly meetings 02:36:27
in all of my little towns. 02:36:34
From Guy Silla to Tunnel Basin to Roosevelt. And I'm on the radio a lot. I'm in front of my public. 02:36:41
A lot of time during the month and so that's my response to the criticism and Mr. Minimum may have a response. 02:36:49
But but your 3 minutes have. 02:36:58
Mr. Chairman, I just and throughout. 02:37:02
You did mention this, but we did have a four hour work session with the Board of Supervisors. You are open and transparent in our 02:37:05
elections. 02:37:09
You had a thorough, thorough, thorough discussion with Miss Bingham, the county recorder. 02:37:13
And Eric, our elections director that you discussed and went through every phase, every facet of our elections process that is 02:37:18
available for the public to. 02:37:24
Review and research that for our discussion on everything election. So it has been addressed to the public and with the process 02:37:30
and the audits were done. The audits are the the elections in Gila County. 02:37:37
Are properly. 02:37:45
And they are accurate and can be relied on. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. OK, thank you. 02:37:47
That's if there's no one else that cares. 02:37:54
Address the board and call to the public. Then I will move forward to five at anytime during the meeting pursuant TRS38-431 point 02:37:59
02 K members of the Board supervisors. 02:38:05
And County Manager may present a brief summary of current events. No action may be taken on the information presented. Supervisor 02:38:12
Klein, do you have anything you care to share with us today? 02:38:18
Supervisor Christensen, do you care to have anything to share with us today? 02:38:24
Appreciation Supervisor Humphrey for sharing the meeting today and also Supervisor Client. 02:38:30
Helping out, I did want to say that. 02:38:37
The. 02:38:41
The CSA board of directors, we had a meeting and they talked about another groundwater management proposal, which is in its 02:38:43
infancy. Apparently there's about a 29 member Advisory Council. 02:38:50
That has been appointed by the governor and so this is just another. 02:38:58
Framework. 02:39:04
That send a sentence to try. 02:39:06
Uh. 02:39:09
Manage water basins and prevent groundwater mining. So it's just coming. 02:39:10
And I think there's just always going to be a lot of discussion on what we should do with our groundwater. So that's all I have 02:39:18
though. Thank you. 02:39:22
OK. Thank you. And and I'm good for this meeting. So I I think I'm going to pass, I think Mr. Menlo would like. 02:39:26
Say something. One comment, Mr. Chairman, just a personal matter, but just to make sure you're aware that my 90 year young. 02:39:35
Mother-in-law passed away last Tuesday and. 02:39:45
She was the epitome of a life well lived, so I'm grateful to my. 02:39:48
Mother-in-law that passed away and there is a funeral for her this coming Friday that I will be out of the office for a couple 02:39:54
days into this week. So you have my condolences, James. Thank you. She was a wonderful woman. 02:40:01
And I'm grateful for her. Well, thank you. 02:40:08
OK. If that's all, I will adjourn today's meeting. Thank you all very much. 02:40:11