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| Testing. Testing. | 00:00:02 | |
| Enough time to start, if you would. | 00:00:05 | |
| Welcome everyone. It's it's actually. | 00:00:19 | |
| 1001 Tuesday No December 5th and so I'd like to call this regular meeting to order who has our invitation this morning. | 00:00:22 | |
| You you OK? | 00:00:34 | |
| All right. And I'm going to call on Jessica to. | 00:00:39 | |
| Lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance if you would all please stand. | 00:00:43 | |
| I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, | 00:00:50 | |
| indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:56 | |
| If you would, please bow with me. Thank you, Father, for the opportunity to serve, to serve you, to serve this county. | 00:01:03 | |
| We pray, Father, that you would strengthen us with wisdom to do that, and Father with discernment to know your will in all things. | 00:01:11 | |
| We pray, Father is we now are. | 00:01:16 | |
| Going to conduct the last regular meeting for this year that father we would. | 00:01:23 | |
| Always consider you and all that we do and as we come back here again in January, Father, that we would have a renewed strength. | 00:01:29 | |
| To always do what is right and what is prudent and what is acceptable in all things. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. | 00:01:38 | |
| OK. | 00:01:47 | |
| Before we get started, I do want to point out that. | 00:01:51 | |
| There may be people that wish to speak. | 00:01:56 | |
| From the public this morning. So there's two forms. So I've gotten. | 00:01:58 | |
| A little tutorial this morning. | 00:02:03 | |
| The pages are in the back if you wish to speak on a specific item, in other words. | 00:02:06 | |
| Thank you for that. | 00:02:41 | |
| OK. And we already have several filled out for item 3A, but we're not there yet. | 00:02:44 | |
| We're going to start off with presentations, Item 2A, presentation by Ben Tomas, a speaker of the House of Representatives, | 00:02:49 | |
| regarding the appointment of John Castaneta to the Arizona House of Representatives Joint Study Committee on Statewide Animal | 00:02:55 | |
| control Standards. | 00:03:01 | |
| And Josh? | 00:03:07 | |
| So. | 00:03:21 | |
| Learning about animal control over the last year, I've really gotten to see what JC Castaneda does as the manager of that | 00:03:28 | |
| department. Even more so seeing him at the state association and some of the different things he's done when he was the animal | 00:03:36 | |
| control officer of the Year. So I wanted to make sure to call him up here to kind of give him a chance for the board to see. | 00:03:44 | |
| This latest achievement which is? | 00:03:53 | |
| Speaker of the House put JC Castaneda on a committee looking at animal control in the state to make sure that all the different | 00:03:55 | |
| counties and cities and anybody that does animal control is kind of aligning up and that we're doing things consistently across | 00:04:01 | |
| the state. I personally think seeing what JC's done here in here, the county, that this is a pretty good privilege because you | 00:04:07 | |
| know they they see what he's done here, how he carries business in Gila County for a rural community. You know, he works with | 00:04:13 | |
| people across New Mexico. | 00:04:19 | |
| I try to make sure we do that and I just wanted to bring him up here today and let everyone know that he's been on this committee. | 00:04:55 | |
| It's been running for a few weeks now, it's going successfully and if anybody has any questions that JC or comments, we'd love to | 00:04:59 | |
| hear them. | 00:05:03 | |
| Are you going to call him up? OK, let's do that. | 00:05:08 | |
| Congratulations. Thank you. I appreciate that. | 00:05:16 | |
| Go ahead. | 00:05:19 | |
| Well, like Josh was saying, we've been doing this committee for the last three weeks. We've been working on standards for animal | 00:05:21 | |
| care control in Arizona. A lot of these standards deal with. | 00:05:26 | |
| Bigger animal control agencies where they have vets on staff. | 00:05:33 | |
| Here in Gila County, we in rural areas, we don't have bets on staff, so we can't, you know, send our animals right to spay and | 00:05:37 | |
| neuter. We have to wait till we have vets on. | 00:05:42 | |
| When our vet is available for spay and neutering and so we're trying to get ways to get vets to come out to rural communities to | 00:05:48 | |
| help us with spay and neuter. Another one, a big thing that we're working on is. | 00:05:53 | |
| Making sure that animal patrol agencies are using social media to get animals back to to the to their loved ones. And here in here | 00:06:00 | |
| the county, we already do that. We've been doing that for several years now. | 00:06:06 | |
| Another big issue was inmate labor and they wanted to make for sure the animal control agencies are trying to use inmate labor to | 00:06:13 | |
| help with the cleaning of the facilities, which helps out with staff and staff being. | 00:06:19 | |
| You know, just busy all the time. Or you can have inmates come in and there they will help out with. | 00:06:26 | |
| With all the. | 00:06:32 | |
| So that's what we're doing right now. | 00:06:35 | |
| Well, thank you. Yeah. We really appreciate all that you do. Supervisor Humphrey anything? | 00:06:37 | |
| Yeah, this committee that. | 00:06:44 | |
| Ben Thompson, Speaker of the House of Representatives, appointed you to Is that, is that a new committee or is that a committee | 00:06:47 | |
| that's been there that you just got appointed to? I think they have that committee. | 00:06:53 | |
| At the beginning of the year and then they they they introduced some animal patrol agencies. So I think myself, Audrey Gilmore | 00:07:00 | |
| from Pinal County, they were we went on at the same time. | 00:07:06 | |
| OK well I'm, I'm, I'm very proud of you to have have the attention from the Speaker of the House to put you on this because from | 00:07:15 | |
| working with you in the past, I know you have a great love for animals. So I can't and you've been at your job for quite some time | 00:07:23 | |
| so I can't think of anybody that I would rather see on that committee other than you. So we're we're proud to have you. | 00:07:30 | |
| Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Supervisor, client JC, congratulations. It's good to see you on that committee. And I I | 00:07:38 | |
| second everything Tim said. | 00:07:43 | |
| You do a good job. So really appreciate it. Thank you. I really appreciate that. Yeah, we're really proud of you and I think. | 00:07:49 | |
| I suppose we can. Let's do that. | 00:07:56 | |
| Yeah. | 00:08:04 | |
| Good morning. | 00:08:11 | |
| You're welcome. You're welcome. | 00:08:14 | |
| Catherine, 123. | 00:08:29 | |
| OK. Thank you. | 00:08:34 | |
| We always have. | 00:08:52 | |
| Always great to see. | 00:08:55 | |
| How great of employees we have in the. | 00:08:57 | |
| Yes, Sir. James, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to point out in addition to that, but I I, I appreciate the support of the Board of | 00:08:59 | |
| Supervisors that in the last few years a whole new animal control facility that is state-of-the-art that you approve that and has | 00:09:06 | |
| been up and operating for a number of years. So I appreciate that. | 00:09:12 | |
| Mr. Castaneda's appointment has to do with your support as Board of Supervisors. So thank you so much for your support of Animal | 00:09:19 | |
| control in Healing County. Thank you, James. | 00:09:24 | |
| OK. So I'm excited about our next presentation as well Item 2B presentation of Discover Gila County, the county's tourism and | 00:09:30 | |
| marketing initiative, so. | 00:09:35 | |
| Cameron, Thank you, Cameron. We'll hand it over to you. | 00:09:41 | |
| And I know there's several here that are with you if you want to introduce. | 00:09:47 | |
| You probably already have a plan to do that. | 00:09:54 | |
| Thank you very much. Yes. If I could have everybody that is here on behalf of Discover, Gila County, just please stand up. | 00:09:57 | |
| So this is the organization that actually the Board of of Directors actually that we have with Discover, Hewlett County, Bullet | 00:10:04 | |
| Chambers of Commerce are representative. We've got James Grizzly who's here from an unincorporated part of the county, so. | 00:10:12 | |
| Thank you all for driving down here and being here today to support Discovery of Academy. We couldn't do this without them. | 00:10:21 | |
| We are. Go ahead. Sorry. Yeah, no, thank you. We are super excited actually to share with you what we've been up to this year. | 00:10:29 | |
| It's been a very busy year. | 00:10:34 | |
| And some of the the numbers just don't lie. You're going to see that here today. I'm going to talk really quickly about some of | 00:10:39 | |
| the marketing results that we've seen in the last five years. | 00:10:44 | |
| I'm if you remember we we started last year with a big video promotion campaign. I'm going to share with you some of the stats | 00:10:50 | |
| that came off of that campaign and then new things that were getting ready to launch in 2024. | 00:10:57 | |
| So with that very first thing. | 00:11:05 | |
| Excited to report, and you probably already know this, but we actually won our first national award for this program from the | 00:11:08 | |
| National Association of Counties this year. | 00:11:14 | |
| Who recognized it as a pillar for what it's doing in our community and actually setting the bar throughout the United States. So | 00:11:21 | |
| that's kind of cool. The next thing is. | 00:11:27 | |
| What I tried to do is give you guys. | 00:11:35 | |
| A quick synopsis of where we have come from and so this next slide here, let me move it on. | 00:11:36 | |
| Shows what has happened over the last five years, basically as far as website traffic goes. In 2019 we had about 22,000 visitors | 00:11:46 | |
| that came to the site that very first year. | 00:11:52 | |
| This year we're expecting and we're almost there, 223,000. | 00:11:59 | |
| So we're we're growing and you can see the the curve that we're growing at is pretty impressive. We've had the 547,000 unique | 00:12:04 | |
| visitors and almost 4 million page views that have been viewed on the site. | 00:12:11 | |
| So moving on to the next thing here. | 00:12:20 | |
| One of the biggest things that we set out to do was to get Discover Healer County. That was one of our biggest objectives was to | 00:12:23 | |
| get us recognized on Google and I'm proud to report now that most of our traffic comes from Google. In fact, in 2023, eighty | 00:12:31 | |
| percent, 81% of our traffic came from Google and that is 91% higher than other sites. | 00:12:40 | |
| Like ours in the industry. | 00:12:49 | |
| So we're killing it on Google right now. | 00:12:51 | |
| Our site has over 500 pages that rank in the top five spots on the first page. | 00:12:54 | |
| You know over 73% of our keyword. | 00:13:00 | |
| So that means if you do a Google search and just about all of our keyword terms, that we're on the first page. | 00:13:04 | |
| Which is huge. And that is all free traffic that is coming to discovering the county. And I did a quick you can see if I can | 00:13:10 | |
| figure out the pointer here. | 00:13:14 | |
| Right there. | 00:13:21 | |
| So the. | 00:13:25 | |
| Graph right here actually shows just a few of the various different keywords, like Fossil Creek, we're #1. | 00:13:27 | |
| Globe AZ #3, Pine AZ #1 and on down the list there and there's about 1000 of those keyword drums that we look at on a daily basis. | 00:13:36 | |
| Our visitors spend almost 7 minutes per session on our website and that puts us in the top 86% of tourism websites in North | 00:13:48 | |
| America. | 00:13:52 | |
| So compared to other sites that do what we do, we're in the upper echelon of that. | 00:13:57 | |
| Moving on to our social strategy, this is probably one of the reasons we've been so successful. | 00:14:05 | |
| And this is a really important slide. I keep forgetting here to move this on, but you'll see here how we stacked up with other | 00:14:13 | |
| major tourism related programs in the state of Arizona. | 00:14:19 | |
| Flagstaff is one of the top and the, you know, Prescott, Mesa, Tempe. And the big thing here is if you look at the right column. | 00:14:26 | |
| And I wish I could figure out. | 00:14:36 | |
| Oh, there we go. Yeah, so this column right here with the green shows. | 00:14:39 | |
| How many new followers those organizations are adding on a weekly basis? | 00:14:44 | |
| Notice that we are adding. | 00:14:50 | |
| Close to 300 compared to everybody else. So we're. | 00:14:53 | |
| Even after five years, we're growing faster than anybody else that we're tracking. | 00:14:58 | |
| Over 33% engagement rate for 2023. | 00:15:04 | |
| And according to Google, typically engagement rates are less than 1% in the tourism industry. That is somebody that's liking, | 00:15:08 | |
| comment, commenting or sharing our our Facebook or Instagram posts. | 00:15:15 | |
| So they are engaging with us for they're almost 33 times greater than other programs out there. | 00:15:22 | |
| This last year are actually since the start of the program. | 00:15:30 | |
| We've had almost 9 million people see our posts on Facebook. | 00:15:34 | |
| Total people have seen our post in 2020. | 00:15:42 | |
| Is almost, you know, 2.8 million. | 00:15:45 | |
| And then this is kind of cool. We're almost at 20,000 followers on Facebook, which is a huge feat in five years. | 00:15:49 | |
| Instagram, we're almost at 10,000 followers, so we're starting to really influence a lot of people with the things that we're | 00:15:58 | |
| sharing. | 00:16:02 | |
| This is one of the things that I'm most proud of is the video. | 00:16:08 | |
| Campaign that we did last year, we told you guys that we were going to produce. | 00:16:12 | |
| Three commercials. | 00:16:19 | |
| And we did that, and they were the Tunnel, National Monument, State Park, Tano Natural Bridge, State Park and Bishwagala. | 00:16:20 | |
| And we launched those actually on we actually through streaming Hulu and we did a partnership with Channel 3 and Channel 5 that | 00:16:28 | |
| generated one point 1.5 million people that saw those advertisements. | 00:16:36 | |
| During the Super Bowl, the Cactus League Spring Training, WM Golf tournament, Barrett Jackson and some of the other major events | 00:16:43 | |
| that were going on in the valleys when we were running this video campaign. | 00:16:50 | |
| It added almost 15,000 new visitors to the site to our website. | 00:16:57 | |
| And this is the cool one is almost 93.7% of the people that started watching that commercial. | 00:17:02 | |
| Finished watching it. So there was a lot of people that were exposed to Gila County this last year through those video promotions | 00:17:09 | |
| and we're going to talk a little bit more about that here in just a minute. | 00:17:15 | |
| So this is the probably the most important slide that I'm going to share with you now. If there's one thing you take away from my | 00:17:23 | |
| presentation, that's today. | 00:17:27 | |
| All these numbers that I'm going to present to you are not my numbers. They're from the Arizona Office of Tourism, so they've | 00:17:32 | |
| BeenVerified and this is a pretty cool story. | 00:17:37 | |
| In 2022, the direct spending. | 00:17:42 | |
| In Gila County, coming off of tourism dollars is up 3.8%. | 00:17:46 | |
| Employment associated with tourism is up 7.3%. | 00:17:52 | |
| Tax revenue associated with tourism is up 4.9%. | 00:17:58 | |
| And earnings for people that are employed. | 00:18:03 | |
| The tourism industry is up 10.6%. | 00:18:08 | |
| What that means to the people that live here in Gila County is that 12 point. What is it? 12180 dollars is offset because of that | 00:18:12 | |
| tourism spending that is coming into our county for each person that has a household here. | 00:18:20 | |
| The tunnel Natural Bridge State Park we saw in 2022. | 00:18:29 | |
| The sorry. | 00:18:36 | |
| The traffic there was 124,614 and 2023 through September. | 00:18:39 | |
| We were already a little over 103. | 00:18:47 | |
| So we're expecting that those numbers to continue to go up. Town National Monument visits, same thing. | 00:18:51 | |
| Through me, we had already seen 19,000 compared to last year's 31. So we're expecting those numbers to continue to decline. So if | 00:18:58 | |
| there's one thing that I want to show you though that I am most proud of is this bar right here. | 00:19:06 | |
| This is the last 25 years of direct spending that's come into Gila County specifically. | 00:19:15 | |
| If you look at the last two years. | 00:19:21 | |
| Those are the highest direct or direct travel spending years in the past 25 years. | 00:19:24 | |
| And most likely ever. | 00:19:30 | |
| So those numbers don't lie. They are showing that more and more money is getting spent here in Gila County because of this. | 00:19:33 | |
| So let's talk about the new opportunities, things to look forward to in 2024. | 00:19:43 | |
| We created 3 new 3 new commercials. | 00:19:50 | |
| And we are going to do this again. | 00:19:54 | |
| Phoenix is actually the host in 2024 to the NCAA Final Four this year. | 00:19:57 | |
| And so there would be a lot of people that are coming into town for that. | 00:20:04 | |
| So we've we've actually gone out and produced 6 new videos or three new videos. | 00:20:08 | |
| To various different versions of them that will be showcased. | 00:20:14 | |
| During that final four, the spring training on ABC and through who? | 00:20:18 | |
| And then kind of exciting because we've hit five years, it's time to redesign our website. And so we are in the process right now | 00:20:23 | |
| of developing a brand new up-to-date state-of-the-art website that will now be built on WordPress. | 00:20:33 | |
| Which will give us all the technologies and things that we need moving forward. So we're we're excited about that. | 00:20:42 | |
| We also felt like as a board, it was time to do a relaunch of this program to update people on what has happened over the last | 00:20:51 | |
| five years. | 00:20:55 | |
| And so we will actually be conducting in January and February some stakeholder meetings to to get feedback from folks. | 00:21:01 | |
| And leadership positions. And then in April, we will be doing a brand new relaunch of Discovery County with the new website and | 00:21:10 | |
| all the videos and all that kind of stuff. | 00:21:14 | |
| So moving on to the final things here. | 00:21:20 | |
| It's really cool actually, when you can show up at one of your destinations. | 00:21:25 | |
| And have an experience like this? I want to just read this real quick. Following our Discovery Gila County Board meeting in San | 00:21:31 | |
| Carlos in March of 2023, DDC board member Cody Gilson generously guided us through the enchanting super bloom at Paradox Mesa. | 00:21:38 | |
| Upon arrival, a car displaying in Minnesota license plate caught my eye. Cody, being the gracious host, approached them and | 00:21:46 | |
| inquired about their experience obtaining a permit. They politely replied They found it to be a straightforward process. | 00:21:53 | |
| Intrigued, I couldn't resist asking. You guys are quite a way quite a far away from home. How did you come across this stunning | 00:22:01 | |
| place? | 00:22:05 | |
| Much to my amazement, the woman responded. There's this incredible website loaded with directions, permit information and | 00:22:09 | |
| captivating images. | 00:22:14 | |
| We stumbled upon a promotion about this spot on their Facebook page. | 00:22:18 | |
| Eager to know more, I asked if she remembered the website's. | 00:22:24 | |
| With the smile, she swiftly located it on her phone and explained it's called Discovery the county. | 00:22:28 | |
| The synchronicity left us chuckling, she enthusiastically declared. We are absolutely sharing this gym with all our friends back | 00:22:34 | |
| home. | 00:22:38 | |
| That is a true experience that was totally not planned for, so it was actually really kind of cool. | 00:22:43 | |
| What are our businesses saying? Here's a brand new business actually that was just started last year up in Strawberry. | 00:22:51 | |
| And this was also something that was just, we get a lot of this kind of stuff that comes our way. | 00:23:00 | |
| And what they do to promote in our in our fantastic. | 00:23:43 | |
| We are within two hours of 5 million people who clamored to get away from the hectic city once in a while. Gila County is getting | 00:23:48 | |
| better by the day and discover Heela County is our voice. This program is what is vital to all of us. Thank you for all you do. | 00:23:57 | |
| So that's a local business owner that we didn't ask for that, he just sent it to us. So we felt really cool about that. | 00:24:06 | |
| So with I promised I was going to try to keep this within 15 minutes. | 00:24:15 | |
| I do have those six videos that I would love to show you at least one. | 00:24:22 | |
| If you want to see all of. | 00:24:28 | |
| You can tell me and we'll watch them all, OK? But. | 00:24:30 | |
| We want to at least see the one. | 00:24:34 | |
| OK, so let's do. | 00:24:37 | |
| Yeah. | 00:24:41 | |
| I think we're going to want to see all of them, OK? | 00:24:45 | |
| Feel Arizona's heartbeat as you. | 00:24:52 | |
| Part of it is the music in the. | 00:25:01 | |
| County and wild adventure awaits at Roosevelt Lake. | 00:25:07 | |
| Feel Arizona's heartbeat as you cast your line and reel in the catch of a lifetime. Lied on cobalt blue waters chasing sunlight | 00:25:10 | |
| Stands. Stories are woven, Bombs are forged around campfires and nature's untamed beauty surrounds. As day turns tonight, witness | 00:25:18 | |
| nature's artistry in the sky. Discover Gila County at Roosevelt Lake and explore the water. | 00:25:26 | |
| So remember, these are 32nd commercials that will be played during these various difficult events. | 00:25:36 | |
| Let's do. | 00:25:42 | |
| Explore the heart of Arizona's grandeur atop beyond spiraling, muggy own limb where endless wonder awaits. Marvel at the 2000 foot | 00:25:53 | |
| drop, taking in panoramic views of the lush pine forest below. Listen closely as ancient whispers echo through the rock formations | 00:25:59 | |
| carried by the wind from ages past. Immerse yourself in a Symphony of outdoor adventures where lakes, campgrounds and trails | 00:26:05 | |
| harmonize with Arizona's wilderness. | 00:26:12 | |
| Explore your wild side. Come discover Gila County. | 00:26:19 | |
| This is for everybody. | 00:26:29 | |
| Let me introduce to you. | 00:26:35 | |
| So there's a faster version for social media, and then there's what we call a story version and you're seeing. | 00:26:50 | |
| So this is the Roosevelt League. | 00:27:10 | |
| Days will remember what the world can see. | 00:27:16 | |
| Already ready to run in a while's falling. Ready to run and we won't stop you anymore. | 00:27:25 | |
| Yeah, this one was really fun. This is the winery. We looked at all the wineries throughout the new account, and this would turn | 00:27:43 | |
| out probably from tall Pines to large saguaros. Gila County's wine country is wild nature on display. Bruzy Vineyard blends | 00:27:49 | |
| innovation with tradition. | 00:27:55 | |
| While Tierra Madre Vineyards harmonizes history with Arizona beauty. | 00:28:01 | |
| Wagon, vineyard and estate unites community and craftsmanship. Here, time stands still. You'll hear Arizonae heartbeat in every | 00:28:05 | |
| glass. It's not just a visit. It's a profound connection to the land where every sip embodies our spirit. Come discover Gila | 00:28:10 | |
| County and explore the wild. | 00:28:16 | |
| Here we go. | 00:28:30 | |
| Our need is. | 00:28:34 | |
| Here we go. | 00:28:36 | |
| It's when your day is. I should take it. We will let it in. This is where the adventure begins. | 00:28:48 | |
| So those are the six new videos that we will broadcast this year. | 00:29:03 | |
| That's the end of my presentation. | 00:29:09 | |
| I think I did it in 15 minutes. You did great. You did really great. I loved him. Supervisor Humphrey. | 00:29:11 | |
| Well, it goes way back with me, yeah. | 00:29:20 | |
| I can remember when I was on the Industrial Development Authority years ago and we presented this to the supervisors. At that time | 00:29:23 | |
| it was Pastor Mark Anthony and Martin and and they didn't care to to pursue it. I believe Supervisor Martin very much wanted to | 00:29:29 | |
| pursue it, but the other two didn't. | 00:29:36 | |
| And so when when I and Supervisor Klein was elected. | 00:29:43 | |
| We thought it'd be a great idea and I think Supervisor Martin was the one that gathered you up and said hey. | 00:29:47 | |
| I got a future for you. | 00:29:54 | |
| And she was very much international and she told you she wanted. | 00:29:57 | |
| And so we got. | 00:30:02 | |
| You know, proud of you for getting that for her. I feel you. But anyway, it's it's great to plant a seed. | 00:30:04 | |
| And watch where it goes. | 00:30:12 | |
| Thank you very much for have brought this teen accounting the way you have and promote it the way you have for the accomplishments | 00:30:14 | |
| that it's come with. So add something to you. Thank you very, very much. | 00:30:21 | |
| Supervisor Klein. | 00:30:30 | |
| Cameron, I want to thank you and the whole group for for doing this. You know there was there was a lot of discussions when we | 00:30:32 | |
| started this. I know that you know from the legal side we had we had things to go over for the money that is involved. | 00:30:39 | |
| Even though we all couldn't help but expect it would help our constituents and our business people, we had no way of proving. | 00:30:47 | |
| You know and now. | 00:30:54 | |
| Now being where we're at and with all the awards that you guys have won to boot and the difference that I just see just in the | 00:30:56 | |
| local communities on any given day is like night and day and so. So having this for Gila County I would say for once. | 00:31:05 | |
| And and maybe quite a while I mean we we had some money go to the right place and. | 00:31:15 | |
| It had really helped our people on the ground and you know when you go back to the COVID times when when things were shutting down | 00:31:21 | |
| and people were worried about. | 00:31:25 | |
| Tax revenues and all that, and budgets seem to be falling except for the grant money. Ours never did. We stayed up there. | 00:31:31 | |
| And that had to do with Discovery the county. | 00:31:38 | |
| That's that's what kept us up there, you know, and and so going forward, I can't. | 00:31:42 | |
| Help, but be excited about what we're going to see and what's going to take place. | 00:31:48 | |
| I I kind of have to question you too. I mean, how much better can I get than where we are, where we are today? It's like. | 00:31:54 | |
| You guys are coming away. Oh, we gotta beat them. So that's what we're trying. Yeah, we gotta get ahead of the other. So yeah, so | 00:32:01 | |
| that's good. We're ahead of Prescott though, aren't we? | 00:32:07 | |
| Well, we're getting there. OK. They feel us coming. OK. All right. Well, thank you all so much for this. It's really good and it's | 00:32:13 | |
| a really good thing. | 00:32:17 | |
| Thank you. It really is. So thank you, Cameron. Thank you everyone. I wasn't there in the beginning, but it's so easy to support | 00:32:23 | |
| this. | 00:32:27 | |
| And I'm proud to. | 00:32:31 | |
| The charts and stuff that you show, I know they're just numbers. | 00:32:34 | |
| The cost versus the benefit is just. | 00:32:38 | |
| It benefits only 10s of millions of dollars to do this. I don't know how you have enough time in the day to do it, but for the | 00:32:42 | |
| last five years you've almost doubled every year. Doubled from the previous year. Seems like an impossible trajectory to continue, | 00:32:49 | |
| but you're you're already talking about revamping. | 00:32:55 | |
| And doing a new website and everything so. | 00:33:02 | |
| I have no doubt it's going to keep growing exponentially. | 00:33:06 | |
| I think it will. In fact, I wanted to share this last thing and thank you all three because you've all been huge supporters of | 00:33:10 | |
| this. We couldn't do it without the three of you, but we're hoping that these videos will allow us to now go after a new set of | 00:33:16 | |
| awards with the Arizona Office of Tourism. | 00:33:22 | |
| There is a program that if we can show the return on these videos, we can submit this whole campaign to them and that could be a | 00:33:28 | |
| huge weather or not cap to see that win. So last year we had like I said 1.5 million people that saw this, saw our advertisements | 00:33:36 | |
| and we tracked every little piece of data that we could and this year we're going to actually submit it to them. So hopefully we | 00:33:43 | |
| can get some more recognition for that so. | 00:33:50 | |
| But thank you all very much, James. Did you have anything? Yeah. | 00:33:58 | |
| Mr. Chairman, if you care to do so, you have a check for financial support for Discovery County that. | 00:34:02 | |
| Would appreciate if you would. | 00:34:09 | |
| Photo with Discovery County and the board offers cover Hilla County if you want to make that presentation at this point. | 00:34:12 | |
| The green. | 00:34:55 | |
| Good job guys. | 00:35:02 | |
| Very good job. Thanks a lot. Yeah. | 00:35:14 | |
| I. | 00:35:28 | |
| Okay. | 00:35:46 | |
| Thank you for that. Let's move on now to item 3. | 00:35:49 | |
| This will have a public hearing portion after the presentation. | 00:35:53 | |
| And it's for information, discussion, and action to adopt Gila County Vacation Rental and Short Term Rental Ordinance #2023-08. | 00:35:57 | |
| Randy Plummer, Good Morning, Chairman, Supervisors. | 00:36:04 | |
| I know this is. | 00:36:12 | |
| Subject that you're pretty much you're on one side or the other of. | 00:36:14 | |
| Process and and I just want to state that currently Gila County. | 00:36:20 | |
| Regulate short term rentals. | 00:36:26 | |
| This ordinance establishes the process of regulating new and existing short term rental properties. | 00:36:28 | |
| These regulations are put in place both for the safety of the property owner, the guest saying at the short term rental and the | 00:36:34 | |
| benefit of the community in which property is located. | 00:36:39 | |
| I'm going to hit the highlights that this will be a yearly permit. | 00:36:45 | |
| And there's a process for this. | 00:36:50 | |
| There's emergency contact requirements. | 00:36:52 | |
| That a representative would have to be on the site if the Sheriff fire department was to call them. | 00:36:56 | |
| There's also the neighborhood. | 00:37:05 | |
| Notification, which is the neighbors next to you across the street from you and diagonally across the street from you. | 00:37:07 | |
| There's a process for verifying penalties and violations. | 00:37:15 | |
| There's ways to. | 00:37:21 | |
| Revoke their license or suspend their license. There are sex offender. | 00:37:23 | |
| Background. | 00:37:30 | |
| State has put on a requirement for short term rentals for insurance. | 00:37:33 | |
| And that these would all have to be displayed. | 00:37:39 | |
| In their advertisements. | 00:37:42 | |
| Umm, there's like you said. You're you're. | 00:37:45 | |
| For or against depends on what side you're on, and that's fine and I received. | 00:37:50 | |
| From the clerk of board yesterday 2 e-mail. | 00:37:56 | |
| That I know you were probably provided, but I didn't know if you want me to read them into the record or not. But I will tell you | 00:38:00 | |
| it's Jeff and Susan points from. | 00:38:05 | |
| Payson, AZ and Carolyn and Larry. | 00:38:10 | |
| Also in. | 00:38:14 | |
| So if you'd like me to read them in the record, I'll be more than happy to. So, Randy, the Eppers are here and wish to speak, so | 00:38:16 | |
| let's forego the reading of that. That's 4 pages long. | 00:38:21 | |
| The one here from Jeff and Susan Boyce, who are also on Gibson Ranch Rd. | 00:38:29 | |
| Would it be alright if I? | 00:38:36 | |
| Briefly stated, some of the items that in the letter without having to read it. It's rather lengthy as well. | 00:38:39 | |
| They they said that. | 00:38:46 | |
| They are in favor, I believe, of the ordinance. The dirt roads, there's lots of dust. There's the vehicles that are speeding. | 00:38:48 | |
| Loud parties. Drugs. Quads doing doughnuts. Spinouts. | 00:38:56 | |
| And it's gotten out of control. They're basically running motels in our private neighborhood. So I hope I didn't. | 00:39:02 | |
| Not represent that to its fullest, but I believe that that gives you a sense of how they feel about it. | 00:39:12 | |
| And I will tell you, this is our third public. | 00:39:20 | |
| And I have met with several people at our counter. | 00:39:22 | |
| So far I haven't had anyone outright against it. I've had people who want it to be stricter. | 00:39:26 | |
| But again, we're following state statute. | 00:39:33 | |
| And I will tell. | 00:39:35 | |
| Plagiarized a little. We used a couple other jurisdictions formats. | 00:39:37 | |
| And took a little good parts out of each of them and and applied to this one. I think it's pretty good ordinance. Again, there are | 00:39:43 | |
| things that we just can't. | 00:39:49 | |
| Enforce, you know, some of these sort of statements are we should always be able to go into. | 00:39:56 | |
| A residence whenever we want and that just, you know that's not. | 00:40:04 | |
| But there are a lot of things, and I will tell you, this is our first. | 00:40:09 | |
| Stab at this. I'm assuming lately it seems that the state has. | 00:40:13 | |
| Modifying this on a. | 00:40:18 | |
| Progression and next year we may be back for you if there's something in there that we think we need to do. | 00:40:21 | |
| But I I do think that we do not currently enforce this. I think it's important that we. | 00:40:29 | |
| Some portion of this if you have any concerns about what we are currently doing, but I weren't happy to answer any questions that | 00:40:36 | |
| I can. Thank you Randy Supervisor Humphrey. | 00:40:41 | |
| I have no questions. | 00:40:47 | |
| They'll come in after. | 00:40:52 | |
| OK, Supervisor. | 00:40:56 | |
| Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Randy. So I am for a. | 00:41:00 | |
| A permanent system like this, but I'm also for doing it right. And so by that I mean, unfortunately, no matter what we deal with, | 00:41:05 | |
| we have a handful of bad actors and we have a big handful of people doing a good job. And so to me, it's like I don't want to see | 00:41:12 | |
| us hammer in any of our folks that are doing a good job. | 00:41:19 | |
| Just to get to these bad actors. | 00:41:26 | |
| And so so there's parts of this that. | 00:41:29 | |
| So let's just, let me just ask, ask you First off, like a sex offender like this, so somebody wants to rent a house or whatever it | 00:41:35 | |
| is and the owner of that. | 00:41:40 | |
| Short term rental would have to do the background check on them, correct? A lot of times the organization. So if you run through | 00:41:45 | |
| VRBO they automatically do that because it's a state requirement. | 00:41:51 | |
| And they would provide that if they if they're not renting through VRBO. | 00:41:58 | |
| Any of the organizations that would do that, then they would do the background check themselves. | 00:42:02 | |
| There's several organizations that you can call into and are can provide you the information that you need. | 00:42:07 | |
| So it's not. | 00:42:17 | |
| Over cumbers. | 00:42:19 | |
| Process but you will have to make a phone call and and follow up on that as as the provider of the facility. | 00:42:21 | |
| And I agree with Sir, this is not to hammer the goods to get to the bads or vice versa. Really the goods. | 00:42:28 | |
| Probably already have everything that's in this ordinance in their process. | 00:42:37 | |
| They're just going to come fill out a form with us. | 00:42:43 | |
| That we're going to ask for that contact information, those kind of things, and make sure we have it on there. | 00:42:46 | |
| So if there's a occupant, loads. | 00:42:53 | |
| You know, so if you're having 45 people at a two-bedroom house. | 00:42:55 | |
| And there's probably going to be a problem there. And then sheriff's may get called out. The sheriff will be able to look that up | 00:43:02 | |
| and know that there really is only supposed to be 468 people, whatever the occupant load is. | 00:43:07 | |
| And the Oscillo will be based on the septic system that is provided, that was permitted with that facility and the good ones | 00:43:13 | |
| aren't going to have those issues. Like I said, we've had several comments. I think our first meeting we had people that said they | 00:43:20 | |
| can't even get into their driveways, can't get into their houses because. | 00:43:26 | |
| Because 40-5, people park on the streets. | 00:43:32 | |
| And crossover their driveways and they literally are held hostage. That's not a goal that we want to pursue here, but if you're | 00:43:35 | |
| parking on the site and and you're a good neighbor. | 00:43:40 | |
| You're not going to see as much. | 00:43:47 | |
| You know you you pull your trash cans in instead of letting them get dumped over by the animals where all the neighbors are | 00:43:50 | |
| picking up the trash. | 00:43:53 | |
| You know, I don't see us coming out there and we're not trying to be heavy-handed into all this. Um. | 00:43:58 | |
| Like I said, I'm going to tell you I'm. I'm. | 00:44:04 | |
| Betting 90%. | 00:44:07 | |
| Are good and and are good neigh. | 00:44:10 | |
| And are trying to just make a living or whatever they're doing with their vector facilities, it's 10%. I mean it's kind of like | 00:44:13 | |
| that way. | 00:44:17 | |
| I think across the board, in a lot of areas, it is that the 10%'s the problem. | 00:44:23 | |
| You know, just like the sheriff, they they. | 00:44:29 | |
| Get the 10%, they're not really out there to do anything with the 90% and we won't be either. So. So Randy I had discussion | 00:44:31 | |
| earlier with with Michael and. | 00:44:36 | |
| I was kind of running a little bit late this morning but didn't have a lot of time to talk about it. I went through this and. | 00:44:43 | |
| And one thing that was brought up when we talked about is. | 00:44:49 | |
| Is that on the short term rental deal is now going to become a business basically or is a business? | 00:44:52 | |
| And so some of these these. | 00:44:59 | |
| These bills. | 00:45:04 | |
| Other places like motels have to deal with it. What not like that, but like like this this one on the permit issuance and denial | 00:45:07 | |
| part of it, A through F has to do with mostly background checks of one sort or another. | 00:45:14 | |
| Motels don't deal with that. | 00:45:23 | |
| When I, you know they don't do a background check on me when I go in and check on a motel. So where? Why? | 00:45:25 | |
| And I'm not saying this is bad. I just want to. I want this out on the open. But why would we? | 00:45:31 | |
| Where does this come from? Is this something like this, this come from statute? Is that, is that where it's coming from? Yeah, | 00:45:38 | |
| pretty much everything that we're going through here is from state statute. | 00:45:42 | |
| Now Hotel Motel is in a business orientated area C2 commercial area. | 00:45:47 | |
| And and you're right, they aren't required to do a lot of these things. But this is where we're putting and I agree with this is a | 00:45:55 | |
| business. | 00:45:58 | |
| And. | 00:46:02 | |
| Pseudo and I don't know if they're backwards, but hotel, motel in the middle of a neighborhood. A quiet family neighborhood where | 00:46:04 | |
| kids are playing next door. | 00:46:08 | |
| Umm, so they don't? | 00:46:13 | |
| The state has put in the safeguards by allowing this, and remember, we can't stop. | 00:46:16 | |
| Short term rentals. | 00:46:23 | |
| The state does not allow us to. | 00:46:25 | |
| So anyone can make a short term rental, but they put in these safeguards so that if you are putting these in the neighborhoods, | 00:46:27 | |
| which is where they're. | 00:46:32 | |
| And it could be a dense neighborhood. It could have, you know, houses. | 00:46:36 | |
| You know, downtown? | 00:46:41 | |
| You're got a lot of houses around you and you got kids out there and you got everything else out there, so they do want to keep | 00:46:43 | |
| the sex offenders out of there. We're in a commercial neighborhood. | 00:46:48 | |
| I don't know the real reasoning. | 00:46:54 | |
| That would follow that but. | 00:46:56 | |
| They're more transient. | 00:46:59 | |
| We're on a short term rental. You might be there longer than a hotel. | 00:47:02 | |
| You have more room to do stuff that you're the bad actor to do stuff you're probably. | 00:47:08 | |
| Shouldn't be done that you would do when you're out on the Main Street and main highway. | 00:47:14 | |
| So, you know, one of the big complaints we get a lot of is the traffic and the. | 00:47:20 | |
| Side by side and dust and all that stuff. You know, if they're licensed side by side, they're required to meet our. | 00:47:26 | |
| And you know, that's that's traffic that the sheriff and all them would have to deal with. | 00:47:35 | |
| That's not really something that we can go out and say. | 00:47:42 | |
| You can't take your. | 00:47:45 | |
| Vehicle out on his Dirt Rd. | 00:47:47 | |
| So we can talk with the owners when they do that and say the people you're running to are are becoming a nuisance to your | 00:47:51 | |
| neighbors. | 00:47:55 | |
| So we can't address some of that. | 00:48:00 | |
| So I'm not saying that I'm opposed to any of this, but what I want to really get at is this. Whether it's me, you or anybody else, | 00:48:02 | |
| we sometimes make mistakes, we miss stuff. So if somebody, if if this was to go through and this was to happen and an owner. | 00:48:11 | |
| Missed something on a sex offender? Maybe it's here. They didn't come up with it, they didn't see it. Whatever. 6 offenders were | 00:48:20 | |
| supposed to notify wherever they go. | 00:48:24 | |
| And but but say that that didn't happen and then later it did and then we go back on them. | 00:48:29 | |
| Well, they tried. They they they tried to do what they needed to do, but just missed something. | 00:48:35 | |
| So what what would happen from our Stan standpoint, We're not going to pull their license if somebody makes an honest mistake and | 00:48:40 | |
| and this is something are you? | 00:48:44 | |
| A matter of fact, they get 3. | 00:48:49 | |
| So let's say that they made the call, came back no sex offender. | 00:48:53 | |
| They did their due diligence and if the guy ended up figuring. | 00:48:58 | |
| And I don't want to give any legal right here figuring out a way to use a different name. | 00:49:03 | |
| I don't know what it would imply there, but they did their due diligence. We would consider that they did that. | 00:49:10 | |
| They didn't make the. | 00:49:17 | |
| And there was a sex offender there. We could do with the first fine, the first violation. | 00:49:19 | |
| Say, hey, you really do got to call these guys. You got to follow up on this document that you called at this time and date. | 00:49:28 | |
| You know or whatever the requirements. | 00:49:36 | |
| Then that, then there they would get that first fine. Like I said, it's after the third fine. | 00:49:40 | |
| That we can get in there to revoke a license, but something that is as simple as an honest mistake or they couldn't find it. It | 00:49:45 | |
| wasn't there for what they had available. That wouldn't even be a strike, right? OK, so going on, I want to talk about insurance, | 00:49:52 | |
| $500,000 liability insurance, so. | 00:49:58 | |
| I know we're going to hear from some people here pretty quick on the public deal and it's going to be really good to hear. But I | 00:50:06 | |
| believe there's some of these platforms like VRBO and and whatnot that when you sign up with them, they have an insurance policy | 00:50:11 | |
| that you get by signing, signing up, right. | 00:50:16 | |
| Matter of fact our our. | 00:50:22 | |
| Ah, that. | 00:50:25 | |
| It basically I'm not seeing the exact wording but if the BRBO provides that insurance then it's done OK. So we're not we would not | 00:50:33 | |
| require anything not additional. | 00:50:38 | |
| This is just the the 500,000 the VRBO already provides. Now if you're not going through VRBO and you're just branching this out. | 00:50:44 | |
| Facebook. Then you do have to have the 500,000 on your house or on your property, which probably already have close to that | 00:50:55 | |
| anyway. I know I do on my property, so they would have to show that they have insurance on the property. | 00:51:03 | |
| OK. | 00:51:11 | |
| So the next question that I have too is one of the means of gauging how many people are in a house is per bedroom. There's there, | 00:51:13 | |
| I think, he said. By state standards, they figure two people per bedroom for the wastewater standards, which are covered under ADQ | 00:51:19 | |
| and all those places, it's usually two per bedroom. | 00:51:26 | |
| Is what the system is designed. | 00:51:33 | |
| They can. You can have a bigger system. | 00:51:37 | |
| But you know, a lot of these are the older homes. | 00:51:40 | |
| That worked over to sign and are probably under the requirements now. So if you have a three bedroom house then yes the the way | 00:51:44 | |
| and and it's not as hard and fast two per bedroom. | 00:51:50 | |
| All this will be reviewed by waste. | 00:51:57 | |
| So when the application comes in, we're going to show them what they got. They look up the wastewater system, they see the size | 00:52:00 | |
| that they have, say OK, they're good for 10 people. | 00:52:04 | |
| Then we would allow ten people on that property. | 00:52:09 | |
| So what I'm saying, OK, so I like that a little bit As far as having some common sense into this one thing that I would say, even | 00:52:12 | |
| me personally, if I've got a three bedroom house and I have a long weekend and I've got four extra people coming up to stay for | 00:52:18 | |
| the weekend, they're going to stay there. | 00:52:23 | |
| And so where it would be 6, it would actually be more than that. | 00:52:28 | |
| So we're there. So to from a county standpoint to have that flexibility I think will be a very good thing. | 00:52:33 | |
| And I would not like to see us not have that. One of the issues with short term rentals is the fact you got 3 bedroom house and | 00:52:39 | |
| there's 30 people staying in it. | 00:52:44 | |
| That's one of the complaints that we had before, You know, they're they're absolutely over maxed. | 00:52:48 | |
| And I I see that, but from a common sense standpoint, if I've got 3 bedrooms. | 00:52:54 | |
| I could probably hold 1012 people for a weekend. It's not going to hurt anything. You see what I'm saying? | 00:53:01 | |
| And so to have the flexibility. | 00:53:08 | |
| I'm not so sure I'm comfortable with the wastewater folks telling us what we're going to do here. | 00:53:11 | |
| Just to be honest with you, I think I think we need to really look at that pretty hard and have something that's a little bit | 00:53:16 | |
| more. | 00:53:20 | |
| More down for. | 00:53:25 | |
| But I'm just saying now I'm not, I have no way of knowing, but I'm just saying they're going to be a little bit more on the | 00:53:27 | |
| conservative numbers. | 00:53:30 | |
| When, when, when you really look at these most of these short term rentals these houses are used for. | 00:53:34 | |
| 2-3, maybe 4 nights. | 00:53:41 | |
| You know, and they're gone and then they may set vacant for two weeks before they. | 00:53:43 | |
| So I think there needs to be some common sense in that as well. | 00:53:49 | |
| The the part, there's a part in there about the traffic and the vehicles. | 00:53:54 | |
| If there's a number on these places, depending on how big of a house there is, that will help. | 00:54:00 | |
| You know, one of the things that I and I've been talking to some folks too, is that if you had in there, no parking on the | 00:54:06 | |
| streets. | 00:54:10 | |
| You know, that's one of the things that I've heard personally in my town meetings when I'm around is these places, of course | 00:54:16 | |
| they're they're packed to the gills with people that that's too much. But the streets are plugged up. You can't get through the | 00:54:22 | |
| streets, you know. So if the cars actually had to park on the property like on the driveway or whatever it is most every house has | 00:54:29 | |
| a driveway. So you know that is in the ordinance that the. | 00:54:35 | |
| The people they're renting it to, they're supposed to be able to park their vehicle on the property. | 00:54:43 | |
| Now you know you come up here for relatives, right? I mean you not always, but come up here for relatives and and you're have four | 00:54:49 | |
| people in the house and all of a sudden 2 relatives come over or 4 relatives come over. | 00:54:55 | |
| We can't regulate that. They can't park on the street. We're just saying the people that are responsible for running the house are | 00:55:02 | |
| exposed to have room on the site to park their vehicles. OK, so the, you know, your relatives can come over, they can park in the | 00:55:09 | |
| street. Anyone really can. Can't be a nuisance, you know, and block other people's properties. | 00:55:15 | |
| And that kind of thing and that we hear. | 00:55:22 | |
| All the time, All the time. You know, like so I've shared that we've had a three bedroom house that. | 00:55:25 | |
| Those corporate events and advertisements? It'll sleep 45 people. | 00:55:31 | |
| That's an issue. | 00:55:37 | |
| You know, we're more concerned about safety. | 00:55:38 | |
| You know, if you know every bedroom has a egress door going out in the hallway also has emergency egress, It has a certain size | 00:55:41 | |
| window. | 00:55:46 | |
| So people can get out and actually that size of windows for a fireman to get in there with all of his gear to get people out. | 00:55:51 | |
| Mm-hmm. So we have people that try to use closets and say their bedroom and they have none of that. So no, I wouldn't. | 00:55:58 | |
| Want if there are six people that are, you know, there's three bedrooms and they're sick people and they're trying to throw people | 00:56:06 | |
| down in the garage or down in, I would think that is a bad thing because there is life safety standards that are not being met. | 00:56:13 | |
| And not everyone knows when you go rent someplace. | 00:56:21 | |
| Umm, what the rules are, you know, I mean. | 00:56:26 | |
| Building department would, but as a normal person they would not know that oh, the garage, there's a bed down here. This is nice | 00:56:30 | |
| and cozy. | 00:56:34 | |
| They got, you know, they put a fireplace in but there's no ventilation. | 00:56:38 | |
| You know those kind of things where that's what we're going to be dealing with looking at a little bit. And I will tell you our | 00:56:42 | |
| first year I don't see us making site inspections on every house. | 00:56:47 | |
| But I would think in the future as. | 00:56:53 | |
| We figure out really what. | 00:56:55 | |
| The load is of all this that we will. | 00:56:57 | |
| You know, I will tell you, I went through this. It was more for rehab. | 00:57:02 | |
| Locations we went inspected everyone and set an octane load. | 00:57:07 | |
| Ran through a lot less problems than than we had before. Like I said, if we can. | 00:57:13 | |
| We really don't know. | 00:57:20 | |
| Be honest with you. All of the problems that can occur may occur. | 00:57:23 | |
| Again, I see us coming before you later on maybe to revise this ordinance to. | 00:57:28 | |
| Modify it better modify it. Take something out that didn't work. You know, I don't want to sit here and tell you this is perfect. | 00:57:35 | |
| I don't think there is anything that's going to be perfect, but you know this will all go through code enforcement. | 00:57:44 | |
| And code fortunate goes through me and um. | 00:57:50 | |
| People will have in a hearing. | 00:57:54 | |
| And people will have if it went to a hearing. | 00:57:57 | |
| We tell them what we see, they tell them what they say. It's the hearing officers decision. So it's not anyone that's going to | 00:58:02 | |
| just because I said. | 00:58:05 | |
| Paint the house green. It's. | 00:58:10 | |
| You know, they all have their opportunity. | 00:58:12 | |
| Respond to anything that gets said by a neighbor, by us, by anyone. | 00:58:16 | |
| And they explained that to a hearing officer and if the hearing officer thinks they're correct. | 00:58:21 | |
| He makes his ruling and we're done. | 00:58:27 | |
| So, so Randy, let me let's talk about the inspections just a little bit. | 00:58:29 | |
| So however we come out with this because we'll come out with something I I feel certain, but I want it to work and I don't want us | 00:58:36 | |
| to be so intrusive. | 00:58:42 | |
| That is going to drive people out of. | 00:58:48 | |
| So how do we make sure that that doesn't happen? | 00:58:50 | |
| Intrusive. | 00:58:56 | |
| Definition that is decided by each person. | 00:58:58 | |
| Just that we're there could be intrusive by, considered intrusive by. | 00:59:01 | |
| We're going to be looking for life safety items. I mean, I don't really care what color. | 00:59:07 | |
| Anything is you got new flooring, you're doing cabinets, but were you showing your bedrooms? Are they life safety? | 00:59:13 | |
| Did you put a fireplace in maybe or may not have been with the permit and is that safe? Do you have a CO2 detector in the house? | 00:59:20 | |
| Is there a fire extinguisher in the house? | 00:59:26 | |
| You know the same things. | 00:59:32 | |
| Go through on a hotel motel. | 00:59:35 | |
| They look at all that stuff. Most of the time they make them sprinkle the buildings. We're not looking at any of that. Was still a | 00:59:37 | |
| single family home. It is an R3. | 00:59:41 | |
| And. | 00:59:46 | |
| Where I see there could be problems. | 00:59:48 | |
| Because we have some of these where people try to turn the tough shed into. | 00:59:51 | |
| A residence and they rent that out. | 00:59:55 | |
| Yes, during an inspection, that's going to get caught and that's not probably going to go over. | 00:59:57 | |
| And they're going to be upset. | 01:00:02 | |
| You know. | 01:00:05 | |
| For some reason people believe because they have been caught for a while that it's OK, it's grandfathered in because they've had | 01:00:06 | |
| this tough shed for 10 years. | 01:00:10 | |
| It was never permitted to be a residence. It never met those requirements that you know most of that stuff usually will. | 01:00:15 | |
| Not without a permit be walked. | 01:00:24 | |
| And would we turn our eye to? | 01:00:26 | |
| Because that is a life safety item. | 01:00:30 | |
| But if if you're in a house and you were permitted and you built the. | 01:00:32 | |
| You know, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, and I met Co Denny. Been there ever since. | 01:00:37 | |
| We're not going to go through and make you change your electrical system and put our fault in or something. Smoke detectors we | 01:00:43 | |
| would look for, but nowadays you can put battery operated ones with a 10 year battery on them. | 01:00:48 | |
| You know it's not. | 01:00:54 | |
| Overly intrusive in my opinion, but again, just because I'm on a site some people consider that obtrusive. So I I can't say to you | 01:00:57 | |
| that we won't be intrusive, but. | 01:01:03 | |
| I can. | 01:01:09 | |
| This is not. | 01:01:11 | |
| Our main thing. | 01:01:12 | |
| The only thing our department will be doing. | 01:01:16 | |
| But we'll look at the life safety items pretty, pretty closely. | 01:01:20 | |
| Randy thinks I've got more questions, but I want to see, I want to hear from the public when when they all get a chance to speak | 01:01:25 | |
| and and I'm I'm sure we're going to have quite the discussion on this today which I I welcome I I think that's great. | 01:01:31 | |
| And and like I said I just want to get it right before we do this. So and I I like I said I think a lot of this. | 01:01:38 | |
| They're usually on one side or the other. It's not. There's very few people that are straight down the middle. | 01:01:45 | |
| They're either forward or against. So so to be honest with you, I've heard so much opposed to short term rentals from residents | 01:01:50 | |
| from neighborhoods complaining about the parties, the the speeding, the overcrowding, the trash. The kids turned loose on a four | 01:01:57 | |
| Wheeler. That's the now babysitter for the. | 01:02:04 | |
| For the kids that there's no doubt we have to do. | 01:02:11 | |
| I just want to make sure that when we did it. | 01:02:15 | |
| And also I wouldn't mind seeing in this that we give it six months or a year and then we readdress it again to see how it is | 01:02:18 | |
| doing. | 01:02:23 | |
| So that's that's something I want to throw out there as well. | 01:02:28 | |
| Mr. Charlton, I'll let you have it now for me, OK. Thank you, supervisor, clients. So I support the ordinance even though. | 01:02:32 | |
| Received some complaints that were expanding government. We're growing government this ordinance though. | 01:02:40 | |
| I believe we need to have something in place without it being overly intrusive. I agree with Supervisor Klein. | 01:02:48 | |
| We should have somet. | 01:02:56 | |
| And we should all know. The public should know, and we should know that if something is not working within the ordinance, we still | 01:02:57 | |
| have the ability to make those adjustments. | 01:03:03 | |
| We can add or subtract things in and out of the ordinance through another board meeting until. | 01:03:09 | |
| It fits, he. | 01:03:15 | |
| The way we all would want it to fit. | 01:03:18 | |
| And. | 01:03:22 | |
| Legally would agree. We can do that, any kind. I mean, it doesn't have to be 3 months, six months, a year. If you were hearing | 01:03:24 | |
| from the consensus, this really isn't working and and we can. | 01:03:30 | |
| Articulate what that problem is or is. | 01:03:36 | |
| We can come back anytime. | 01:03:41 | |
| And work on correcting that. None of these are set in stone. They're always changing their you're voted on and and you want to see | 01:03:43 | |
| a change. Then we will look at that change and and see if we can legally do it. You know, like I said there, I've had people that | 01:03:49 | |
| want me to do stuff that. | 01:03:54 | |
| Just isn't allowed by state statute. So no, there are some things we probably couldn't fix in doing that, but this is not set in | 01:04:01 | |
| stone. It's not, you know, we can always come back at your pleasure and and make modifications as we need to. Thank you, Randy, | 01:04:08 | |
| Supervisor Humphrey, anything at this juncture, I'll still wait until after the public. Thank you. OK, I'd like to open it up now | 01:04:15 | |
| then to the public hearing section. | 01:04:23 | |
| And I have several pieces of paper I think I'm going to call Janae Seren. Is it Sarin? | 01:04:30 | |
| And your address is in Scottsdale. OK. So thank you for coming. | 01:04:40 | |
| Go ahead. We're going to try and hold it to about 3 minutes. That's all right. OK. | 01:04:48 | |
| And obviously we all can see from the tourism increase this is going to be not only, you know it's going to be more of a problem, | 01:04:53 | |
| not less is a problem. I do agree it needs to be addressed, but as Superintendent Klein said, I'd like it to be reasonable. | 01:05:00 | |
| I'd like to have it workable. I myself we own 2 vacation rentals and strawberry within a mile of each other. | 01:05:08 | |
| One is 4000 square feet and the other is about 3000 square feet. They're both on VRBO, but we also have a website for one of them. | 01:05:17 | |
| To impose. | 01:05:26 | |
| A two person per bedroom. | 01:05:28 | |
| Limitation on a bedroom that's 4-5, maybe even 600 square feet is kind of ridiculous. I understand there needs to be a maximum, | 01:05:31 | |
| but I don't think 2 per bedroom is it. And that's let's look at the size, let's look and and if it needs to have an inspection, | 01:05:38 | |
| great, that's fine. I just don't want to be limited and advertised as I have. | 01:05:46 | |
| That it holds 25 people. There are beds for 29 people. I advertise for 25, 'cause I don't really want more than that. So that's | 01:05:53 | |
| the first thing I have. It's an arbitrary maximum. The way it's written in, there are two people per bedroom. Yeah, for 1000 | 01:06:00 | |
| square foot or maybe even a 1500 square foot house. That works. It does not work for a bigger house and I feel personally | 01:06:07 | |
| discriminated against as owner of a big house. | 01:06:14 | |
| In these bedrooms we get a lot of multi generational. | 01:06:26 | |
| Family reunions, stuff like that. So a small bedroom or a bedroom that size. | 01:06:32 | |
| The whole family and sleeps in there and that's not a problem. Small things. | 01:06:39 | |
| The other thing as Superintendent Clyde, is the is the background checks. | 01:06:44 | |
| He Randy, kept saying that. Randy Plummer, Mr. Plummer said. Make the call. I I guess I'd like some clarification. What call is | 01:06:50 | |
| that? Because when it's in the in the verbiage, it says that I as an owner need to keep for 12 months. | 01:06:59 | |
| Either digitally or in writing that I've done this, I have absolutely no problem. I am I am not only one of the 90%, I'm probably | 01:07:07 | |
| one of the 99% that goes above and beyond. I've done all of this other stuff. The only thing probably I'll need to do other than | 01:07:13 | |
| making background checks. | 01:07:19 | |
| Is. | 01:07:26 | |
| $250 I mean everything else I'm already doing. But here on this I want to know where do I call? I know I can get a list of the sex | 01:07:28 | |
| offenders, but that's not what it says in the words. | 01:07:34 | |
| It says that I need to do a background check. Does that mean a credit check? | 01:07:40 | |
| Does that mean I go and find out? | 01:07:45 | |
| You know how what they drive, what kind of background check. I'd like that clarified. | 01:07:49 | |
| And I if that means calling and or looking online and downloading that list once a month, I'm perfectly fine with that. I really | 01:07:54 | |
| do want the community protected. | 01:08:00 | |
| I have never had a trouble as far as I know, but I would like that clarified. Umm. | 01:08:07 | |
| Like I said, we've already given all of our neighbors our contact info. We have a noise aware device that tells us when. | 01:08:13 | |
| Our guests are being too noisy. We have one outside, we have one inside. We get text alerts. We get emails. | 01:08:22 | |
| We can. | 01:08:33 | |
| The gas at that time, it has been extremely effective. This is something that VRBO has suggested they support. We as soon as it | 01:08:35 | |
| became available, signed up for it. That's something that is an option is the noise aware system. | 01:08:42 | |
| It's very, very effective. | 01:08:49 | |
| And like I said, all of all of our neighbors know who we are and. | 01:08:52 | |
| So like I said, my whole thing is is can we just have background checks and not? | 01:08:59 | |
| I mean, it's check and see if they're a sex offender, not a background check it doesn't. I'd like that clarified. | 01:09:05 | |
| Thank you for those comments. So, Randy, is there any clarification you can give at this time? | 01:09:12 | |
| On the flexibility of occupancy within. | 01:09:19 | |
| And also the background check. | 01:09:24 | |
| Question. She doesn't understand what that? | 01:09:29 | |
| So we do have what there are websites and we will be providing a list just like we do with contractors or something like that. And | 01:09:33 | |
| they perform the background check and VREO does not do that. By the way, I called, I was on hold for VRBO an hour yesterday. They | 01:09:39 | |
| do not do background checks. | 01:09:46 | |
| So. | 01:09:54 | |
| There, that they. | 01:09:54 | |
| List that we would provide to everyone will do the background check and they just say they're good and what's the cost on them. | 01:09:57 | |
| They when I called, they I did one on me. There was no cost when I called. | 01:10:05 | |
| Yeah, OK. | 01:10:14 | |
| I'm assuming so. I only had me. I didn't really want to check out anyone else. | 01:10:16 | |
| But I did call on me. It cost me nothing. | 01:10:22 | |
| We'll have you know I'm not a sex offender. I found out, so I'm good. | 01:10:24 | |
| But. | 01:10:31 | |
| So now the occupant load they could certainly come in and talk with you know our first line of fence was going to be wastewater. | 01:10:33 | |
| Just. | 01:10:42 | |
| Umm, I don't know how the system was designed. It's all based on flow as we know. You know, they could say they've never had an | 01:10:45 | |
| issue. | 01:10:49 | |
| And you know, talk with Jake, that would be our first line and then if they did really want to, you know. | 01:10:54 | |
| 10 people in. | 01:11:01 | |
| I would suspect that we could go out and verify the thing. The egress and everything is, is I'm not talking about putting to the | 01:11:03 | |
| attendance, I I'm just you know, I have a five bedroom house. We have 5 bedrooms so that would be you know a lot of bedrooms. | 01:11:09 | |
| Bigger than most. And we could certainly look at that as a request that we'd go out there and look at that. I did that before when | 01:11:16 | |
| we dealt with the homes. They say, hey, we really. | 01:11:22 | |
| 15 instead of 10 they could show me how that. | 01:11:27 | |
| If it works, it works if you're If you're amenable to that, that was one of my. So this will be a case by case, not just an | 01:11:31 | |
| arbitrary number. | 01:11:35 | |
| Right. If you came in and the ones that a lot of the ones we talked to do not have the bigger homes, they have the 12115 hundred | 01:11:40 | |
| and we tell them, OK, you got 3 bedrooms, we're saying six people. OK, I'm good with that. | 01:11:46 | |
| If someone came in and really wanted to request a different number, I'm not going to guarantee that we would give that number, but | 01:11:53 | |
| we would go out and verify that it was safe. | 01:11:57 | |
| And if it was, there's no reason not to let him have that. | 01:12:02 | |
| And is there if we disagree with you? If you tell me, Oh no, only 12 people can be here. Do I have options? | 01:12:06 | |
| To dispute. | 01:12:14 | |
| We can always go to our hearing officer. | 01:12:18 | |
| Which is set. | 01:12:22 | |
| And if and he the same thing we normally do, what I would do is we staff presents what we think. | 01:12:25 | |
| You present what you think he makes a. | 01:12:31 | |
| He may say, show me how you can do this or whatever, Mr. Chair, if I may, just getting into a one-on-one argument and as far as | 01:12:34 | |
| sewer goes, the state has. | 01:12:39 | |
| Sewer regulations. And so we're getting into an argument here and in my opinion it's not how big the house is. You can have a 35 | 01:12:44 | |
| bedroom house, but if you only got a septic that only handles so much flow, that's all the state will allow. So I we're getting | 01:12:50 | |
| into a one-on-one argument here that I think the state statue will take care of. It's not ours and especially we're not going to | 01:12:56 | |
| get it dealt with. | 01:13:01 | |
| In this argument, OK, good. Thank you for. | 01:13:08 | |
| Is there anyone here? Anyone else here in the Globe Room? | 01:13:13 | |
| Cassandra, do we have anyone on the Internet with a question? | 01:13:18 | |
| OK. I think we have several in. | 01:13:22 | |
| We have a Carolyn Eppler who lives. | 01:13:25 | |
| Gibson Ranch Rd. | 01:13:29 | |
| Who also wrote a. | 01:13:31 | |
| E-mail So, Carolyn, would you care? | 01:13:35 | |
| She wishes to speak. | 01:13:41 | |
| So we're going to, like I said, to keep things moving. We're going to try and keep it to 3 minutes. | 01:13:43 | |
| OK. Thank you very much supervisors for the opportunity to comment. | 01:13:49 | |
| I am in support of this ordinance. I recognize there's pros and cons between enough if you're the investor or the residential | 01:13:54 | |
| families that are addressing with the problems and many of their rural, residential unincorporated areas in Henley County. | 01:14:02 | |
| There are one acre, two acre, three acre parcels. | 01:14:12 | |
| And we in our neighborhood, we have that I'm aware of at least 6. | 01:14:16 | |
| Short term rentals. We've had problems and had to call law enforcement. | 01:14:23 | |
| As Mr. Boyce had shared, there's several issues with. | 01:14:30 | |
| Problems with ATV's coming on other private properties. There's a lot of issues with that and as far as the background check. | 01:14:37 | |
| It's my belief that that's important. | 01:14:47 | |
| You have many restrictions for long, excuse me, long term rent. | 01:14:51 | |
| UH, there's restrictions in hotels for different requirements. | 01:14:58 | |
| And it appears to me at this point because there are no regulations. | 01:15:02 | |
| Currently, if they shot their mental. | 01:15:08 | |
| They are not addressing any of these issues as a rental without an ordinance. | 01:15:11 | |
| They're being treated as a regular residential home. | 01:15:18 | |
| So I I feel strongly that the background check is important. | 01:15:23 | |
| How that's done? There's different ways to accomplish that, but even with that in place, you have short term rentals where the | 01:15:29 | |
| person applying for that rental may not end up even staying there, and however many people that join them, they don't have | 01:15:35 | |
| background checks. | 01:15:41 | |
| Problem with drug issues? | 01:15:50 | |
| In our neighborhood, we've had to head the sheriff. | 01:15:53 | |
| Run people out of that rental, actually. | 01:15:57 | |
| So the background check is a start. It will help protect the neighbors and the children. | 01:16:01 | |
| And you know, we don't have issue with people wanting to earn money, but when it impacts a residential area with families where | 01:16:09 | |
| there's no control of who's going to be coming in there renting that facility for a few days. | 01:16:17 | |
| Our experience so far has not been positive with with the half dozen houses in our neighborhood right now. | 01:16:26 | |
| And you have my letter of comments, so you can look at the details, but I'd like to dismiss, you know, if there's no path on the | 01:16:34 | |
| density of how many these rentals can be in a residential area. | 01:16:41 | |
| There's a lot of folks that want to leave because of these short term, and folks because of the problems, you're going to end up | 01:16:49 | |
| flipping that residential area down the road into more transient. | 01:16:55 | |
| Rather than what's been there for decades. As a tight knit family residential area, I don't want to see that happen. | 01:17:03 | |
| I appreciate the ordinance. Hopefully that will help. | 01:17:12 | |
| From a legal aspect is how the short term rentals affect. | 01:17:20 | |
| The hotels and the BNP's and they're coming out of hosted houses and that's another issue that I I hope that you take a closer | 01:17:25 | |
| look at when you have a short term rental with no one that owns the home being there versus one that is posted. | 01:17:34 | |
| I have seen in the past where the hosted rental, there's much more accountability, less issues. | 01:17:44 | |
| When the the person that owns that property rents it out without being there. | 01:17:52 | |
| That's where we've seen a lot of problems. | 01:17:56 | |
| Thank thank you, Mr. Zeppler. We're we're out of time. | 01:18:02 | |
| And I'll make sure that your e-mail, I think Randy already has it, but I'll make sure. | 01:18:07 | |
| He can review that. | 01:18:12 | |
| Thank you for those comments. | 01:18:14 | |
| If we want to discuss this further, how do we go about doing that? | 01:18:16 | |
| The Well you can continue to e-mail. | 01:18:22 | |
| And I have a feeling that we're going to be looking at this ordinance and its performance over the next. | 01:18:27 | |
| Months and perhaps years to make sure that we're doing the best that we can and it's fair and. | 01:18:35 | |
| Legal. | 01:18:44 | |
| Some of the things requested are not within our legal. | 01:18:46 | |
| Ability. | 01:18:50 | |
| OK. Thank you. I appreciate the opportunity. Thank. | 01:18:54 | |
| Michelle Nelson. | 01:18:57 | |
| Payson, AZ. | 01:19:00 | |
| Thank you, supervisors. I appreciate the opportunity to speak on this issue today. | 01:19:09 | |
| I understand why this ordinance is being contemplated. | 01:19:14 | |
| We have issues with short term rentals in my community and I'm sure you hear about the same one. | 01:19:18 | |
| That said, this ordinance will only increase the complaint and as we just observed today, your compliance officer was having an | 01:19:22 | |
| argument with an owner in your chambers this morning. | 01:19:28 | |
| All what I say that this word meant to violate the state law just from the documents provided from this agenda item. State does | 01:19:34 | |
| not require owners to run a background check if they are on a platform that does. Your ordinance not only requires all owners to | 01:19:40 | |
| run a check, it requires them to keep the documents on file for median inspection for a full year. | 01:19:45 | |
| Not only that, but this ordinance opens the door for a neighbor, vengeful supervisor or code enforcement officer to nitpick an | 01:19:52 | |
| owner out of business between onerous fines and upgrades. | 01:19:57 | |
| The ordinance is full of both burdensome requirements, including how often you change sheets, pest control, hosting of county | 01:20:03 | |
| ordinances, exit plans for a studio department, and it goes on and on. State law strictly limits the additional regulations you | 01:20:09 | |
| impose on short term rentals in residential neighborhoods, so the county would be opening itself to lawsuits and empowering | 01:20:15 | |
| neighborhood feuds with an overly restrictive ordinance. Already the Arizona Supreme Court has sided with short term rental owners | 01:20:21 | |
| over HOA. | 01:20:27 | |
| And these guys, I thought, were impervious. In the decision Martin Calloway versus Calibria Ranch HOA, the court found that HOA's | 01:20:34 | |
| cannot restrict. | 01:20:38 | |
| Short term rentals a clear win for owners, so I respectfully request that staff go back to the drawing board and minimize the | 01:20:42 | |
| regulations to solve the problem at hand, which is party houses. | 01:20:48 | |
| But if you're unwilling to do that, I just ask you to do three things. And the town of Payson did them the day they voted for | 01:20:54 | |
| their ordinance was #1 waved the background check for the guests and poster on a platform that does check #2 give owners a 30 day | 01:21:01 | |
| grace period to correct efficiencies before you impose fines and #3 add the word adults to the bedroom capacity limit. This will | 01:21:07 | |
| remove the discrimination against families. Thank you very much. | 01:21:14 | |
| Thank you, Michelle. I'll make sure that these comments. | 01:21:22 | |
| That Randy gets these comments I have right here. | 01:21:25 | |
| Next. | 01:21:29 | |
| Verla Dockler Dr. Sorry. | 01:21:32 | |
| On Wayne Drive. | 01:21:38 | |
| I really appreciate you guys letting us come in and speak with you. | 01:21:43 | |
| We are residents and we are Airbnb years. | 01:21:49 | |
| 20 years ago my husband and I bought our first home in our neighborhood. It was a major fixture upper with a tree growing through | 01:21:53 | |
| the roof. We spent our weekends coming up and fixing up this home and turning it into a from a community eyesore to a night 1800 | 01:22:02 | |
| square foot home. We had our family come up and enjoy the home with us. This house 10 people with no problem. | 01:22:10 | |
| Our grandkids enjoyed our camper. | 01:22:20 | |
| If they called it in 2010, we purchased the halls next door. That was one of the worst eyesore in our community. We had to tear it | 01:22:23 | |
| down and rebuild. There is not one person in our community who won't say that we have improved the look of this community. | 01:22:32 | |
| We then purchased another home that was another fixture effort and improved the look of that. I would invite anybody to come and | 01:22:43 | |
| see our home and see the improvement we've made in our community. | 01:22:50 | |
| These are now Airbnb. We live in the community. We have never had a complaint on any of our homes but your broad regulations. | 01:22:59 | |
| That can just bring. | 01:23:10 | |
| Law against us is just going to shut us down. We're not going to be able to pay your fine. | 01:23:12 | |
| And your registration. | 01:23:18 | |
| And keep going because there are people in the community. | 01:23:20 | |
| That will bring complaints, yet you're not going to make them adhere to any of these rules that we have to adhere to. | 01:23:24 | |
| They're able to park in. | 01:23:32 | |
| Our neighbor doesn't like that we have an Airbnb. He blocked our driveway with his car. | 01:23:34 | |
| No regulations to that, is there. | 01:23:40 | |
| That same neighbor called us one day and said our renter was playing music on the piano. We couldn't hear the music, so we pulled | 01:23:44 | |
| into the yard. | 01:23:49 | |
| That same render, the next best game owner the next day was blasting music that could be heard three doors down. He's not | 01:23:55 | |
| regulated, but we will be. | 01:24:00 | |
| What about the long term rental? | 01:24:10 | |
| I want to tell you that Michelle and I got together and formed a committee in our community to address the Airbnb issues. | 01:24:14 | |
| We told them in a board meeting how to get ahold of Airbnb and VRBO should they have any concerns. | 01:24:24 | |
| That same. | 01:24:31 | |
| And we only had out of 27 known Airbnb, three that were causing a problem. | 01:24:33 | |
| That same day, a neighbor called on the one of the problem homes to Airbnb within 24 hours. | 01:24:41 | |
| The owner had been contacted. He had been told that the renters had to leave immediately. | 01:24:48 | |
| They left that owner then said. I guess I have a problem. He contacted the rest of the neighbors and he has now addressed the | 01:24:54 | |
| amount of people he's renting to, and we've not heard one more complaint about his property. | 01:25:01 | |
| The other owner called me up and said because it complaints about his property, he had decided to go to a long term rent. | 01:25:10 | |
| Guess what his long term rental knowledge had? | 01:25:20 | |
| After 5 Ferris cars out there flashing. | 01:25:24 | |
| Because of domestic issues. | 01:25:30 | |
| And, we're told, involving guns. | 01:25:33 | |
| That's a long term rental, they've got a year lease. | 01:25:36 | |
| They're not a weekend issue. | 01:25:39 | |
| They're a permanent issue. | 01:25:42 | |
| OK. We're out of time. I do appreciate the comments. | 01:25:44 | |
| Thank you for coming. | 01:25:49 | |
| Thank you. And lastly, we have Gretchen Goslin, Gibson Ranch. | 01:25:52 | |
| Good morning, Board of Supervisors. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak on the behalf. | 01:26:04 | |
| I, here with my neighbors, purchased that off Gibson Ranch Rd. about almost five years ago. We have a very strong sense of | 01:26:11 | |
| community there. | 01:26:16 | |
| And we love that about our community. | 01:26:22 | |
| My concern is the sheer density of some of these rentals that are coming into our neighborhoods. | 01:26:25 | |
| As Miss Efler stated, we have 6 within a probably a quarter mile of us it seems like what a property goes up for sale? | 01:26:33 | |
| They become short term rentals. | 01:26:42 | |
| The traffic is just, I know these are things that you guys can't address and I do thank Randy for. | 01:26:45 | |
| Starting this discussion and the ordinance and I believe that we should be doing background checks. Background checks means felons | 01:26:52 | |
| coming into our neighborhood and things like that, not just sex offenders. But it is concerning. | 01:27:00 | |
| This is a long road to, you know, getting some of these issues fixed. | 01:27:09 | |
| I just would like to continue attending the meetings or staying in contact with community development to see how we can, you know, | 01:27:16 | |
| have have some type of ordinance. I do believe that things should be regulated. | 01:27:24 | |
| We're not trying to really drive out the already existing rentals, but I sure hope that we can do something about. | 01:27:34 | |
| This density of. | 01:27:42 | |
| And the person that represented that was heard before was showing the growth here in Payson. | 01:27:45 | |
| We just kind of want to keep our communities safe for our kids, things like that. | 01:27:55 | |
| So thank you for listening. Thank you. | 01:28:02 | |
| This time I'm going to close the public hearing. | 01:28:05 | |
| Portion and ask supervisor. | 01:28:08 | |
| Oh, we have another one, Lisa. | 01:28:13 | |
| I have a Jeff Boyce here to speak. | 01:28:16 | |
| We will reopen the public. | 01:28:22 | |
| Will this be our? | 01:28:24 | |
| Yes, Sir. Thank you. Please state your name and your address, please. | 01:28:27 | |
| Jeff Boyce, 8079 W Gibson Ranch Rd. Payson, AZ. | 01:28:32 | |
| I thank you for the opportunity to address the board. | 01:28:39 | |
| You have the letter that I wrote. | 01:28:43 | |
| Would you like me to read it quickly? If you'd like, I'd like. I briefly went over earlier. We'd like to hold it to 3 minutes, so | 01:28:46 | |
| maybe just the highlights. | 01:28:51 | |
| Well, this letter is to address the problems we're having with the short term. | 01:28:59 | |
| Rentals and our property. We are a private road. It's a dirt Rd. | 01:29:04 | |
| It's a dusty. | 01:29:10 | |
| And I moved there about five years ago, and I knew every car that went by, every resident that lived on our road. Now I have no | 01:29:12 | |
| idea who's coming down our Rd. They're speeding. They're making dust like you wouldn't believe. | 01:29:20 | |
| This is a private road and there's a dirt Rd. so we have to maintain the road. The county does it so we have all this traffic and | 01:29:30 | |
| they don't have to maintain the roads, they just tear it up. | 01:29:36 | |
| And I would like to address the the non commercial our resident is our neighborhood is a non commercial residence. I don't | 01:29:43 | |
| understand how having a short term rental which is basically a motel. | 01:29:51 | |
| Is allowed in our neighborhood. We have one neighbor that actually has a sign in the front of his driveway. Welcome to Clough | 01:30:00 | |
| Hospitality. If that's not a business. | 01:30:06 | |
| Then I don't know what is. | 01:30:12 | |
| We have problems with the drugs. I just found out today that there is a second short term rental that has problem with the renters | 01:30:17 | |
| bringing in drugs. We have investors coming into our property buying homes. They do not live there at all. It is strictly for | 01:30:26 | |
| short term rentals which ends up with five or six trucks and trailers and quads and side by side. | 01:30:36 | |
| Loud music and drugs. That is one that the drugs were brought into. | 01:30:46 | |
| I just don't understand how these short term rentals can even be legal, period. | 01:30:53 | |
| And especially in a non commercial neighborhood and like I said the effect on on the town. Payson is a very small town. There's a | 01:31:02 | |
| few motels and hotels in town. Now you tell me how you can take all of these Airbnbers that you can rent A room for 40 bucks a | 01:31:10 | |
| night. Now that is hurting our community. That is hurting the business owners that have to apply. | 01:31:18 | |
| By all the rules, regulations. | 01:31:27 | |
| Codes for safety and everything else. And now you just have people to buy a house, probably from the valley or, you know, wherever | 01:31:32 | |
| they're from, and just leave a key somewhere. And people come and party in our neighborhood. Our neighborhood is not what I spent | 01:31:40 | |
| hundreds of thousands of dollars to buy a home and therefore is not our peaceful private neighborhood anymore. | 01:31:48 | |
| I don't understand how a non commercial neighborhood can have. | 01:31:57 | |
| Businesses running in them with even signage on the front of their business. | 01:32:04 | |
| Thank you very much for your time and I hope we can resolve this issue. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Boyce and I want to thank | 01:32:10 | |
| everyone that had comments and input, so I'll close the public. | 01:32:16 | |
| Hearing portion of this item and I was going to call on Supervisor Humphrey, but Randy, do you have something, but I want to | 01:32:23 | |
| address the density. | 01:32:28 | |
| Density, OK. It's been brought up. So state stat. | 01:32:33 | |
| Overrides all this. It doesn't allow us to pick every other house. | 01:32:39 | |
| That that can be a short term rental, that can't be, that can be, State says. We are not allowed to regulate who is the short term | 01:32:45 | |
| rental. | 01:32:48 | |
| We can make sure that they are a permitted structure and license for that, but we're not allowed to. | 01:32:53 | |
| Say who can be and who cannot be, so that really regulated the density that there's ten in the neighborhood. | 01:32:59 | |
| Or I've actually had been told the whole neighborhood is short term mental. | 01:33:09 | |
| There's no way for us to regulate that at this time. | 01:33:13 | |
| First aid statues, so when it comes to density, I don't see how we can deal with. | 01:33:16 | |
| And still stay under the state stat. | 01:33:23 | |
| But you know, I have no problem coming back to you in a year if you want us to do that. | 01:33:27 | |
| We look at this and see the good and the bad and move forward and changing modify or whatever you request. So I'm here to answer | 01:33:33 | |
| any questions that you may have. Thank you, Randy. Yeah, the state for a very long time did not allow the county's or | 01:33:40 | |
| municipalities to have any regulation whatsoever over it. It's only a recent thing and that's why we're considering it today. So | 01:33:47 | |
| we are restricted by the state in many ways on what we can and cannot do. Supervisor Humphrey. | 01:33:54 | |
| Yeah, Randy. | 01:34:02 | |
| I appreciate you very much. | 01:34:05 | |
| As you work on creating these ordinances in in your communication with me because it seems as you go through. | 01:34:08 | |
| You ask. | 01:34:15 | |
| Questions because we're voted and to represent the people of Gila County, so thank you as you go through these. | 01:34:16 | |
| To ask questions before you present something to us. I appreciate that and I thank all the time that you and staff have spent in | 01:34:24 | |
| creating an ordinance. | 01:34:29 | |
| Because it seems like in this, you know, I'm for less government, not more government. | 01:34:35 | |
| But it seems in the changing world today we're having, we're having to create ordinances for both animals and people, which a few | 01:34:41 | |
| years ago was was unheard of, but as the world changes. | 01:34:47 | |
| You know I mean we're having to do ordinances against Elk. Well they can't complain but darn it they got ordinances against them | 01:34:53 | |
| to protect the staff and the people of Hilton it. And and so here we are faced with an with an ordinance for Airbnbs and I think | 01:35:00 | |
| it I, I, I'm a business person I I think business is great. | 01:35:06 | |
| But at what cost for the residents who live around that business, businesses are to to be there to to serve the public not create | 01:35:15 | |
| nuisance for the public. So you know where is that fine line and and so there again thank you because you're hitting a lot of | 01:35:22 | |
| you're you're dodging a lot of things to try to create ordinances and I and I appreciate that very much and I I would just like to | 01:35:29 | |
| say that as we go forward. | 01:35:36 | |
| On on these ordinances and and and I'm all for it and and can we change things as we go. Yeah but a lot of our ordinances were | 01:35:44 | |
| written 50 years ago or not required 50 years ago so they are now So we have to start and and and we can always make changes but I | 01:35:52 | |
| I just want to say thank you very much and as we go forward with new residences in our changing world that that that all of my | 01:36:01 | |
| thoughts are for the constituents who live in Hila County full time and and what's best for them. | 01:36:09 | |
| As far as phones or Airbnb? | 01:36:18 | |
| Feeding the animals. So that's just kind of where I'm at going forward. And I just want to say thank you very, very much for for | 01:36:21 | |
| for tackling some of these. | 01:36:26 | |
| Difficult situations for the Board. Thank you, Sir. Thank you Supervisor Supervisor Klein. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Randy, let's talk | 01:36:31 | |
| about zoning and and what Mr. Boyce is saying in there, so. | 01:36:38 | |
| Does the state supersede that as well? | 01:36:47 | |
| As far as putting a business in the middle of residential. | 01:36:51 | |
| Zone. How does that work? | 01:36:54 | |
| The state regulates short term rentals. | 01:36:58 | |
| And where basically says you can't stop a short term rental. | 01:37:02 | |
| So yes, they regulate that. I'm not going to say they rate then stop someone from putting a liquor store in the neighborhood, but | 01:37:08 | |
| short term rentals are regulated by the state and. | 01:37:15 | |
| From my understanding. | 01:37:22 | |
| Us as far as we can't be more restrictive than what the state says. | 01:37:25 | |
| Right. | 01:37:30 | |
| And the state says we can't regulate them where they're. | 01:37:32 | |
| So yes to the answer. | 01:37:36 | |
| You know what I'm trying to say? I don't know. Well, I'm just saying we can't regulate where they go. | 01:37:41 | |
| OK. And that? | 01:37:46 | |
| As far as short term rentals. | 01:37:49 | |
| OK, so. | 01:37:52 | |
| No matter. | 01:37:55 | |
| Neighborhoods turn into short term rentals or whatever. We have no say one way or another on that. | 01:37:56 | |
| Currently. | 01:38:03 | |
| Like I said prior, five years ago. | 01:38:05 | |
| You couldn't do anything. | 01:38:08 | |
| Let's charge our rental. So the states came a long way because. | 01:38:10 | |
| I have to say from hearings that I have listened. | 01:38:14 | |
| The state's getting hammered just as much as, and a lot of it from the jurisdictions saying how can you come and tell us we can't? | 01:38:18 | |
| Help our neigh. | 01:38:26 | |
| You know, and so that they've listened. | 01:38:29 | |
| This is like I said and this is where they are at. | 01:38:32 | |
| I assume. | 01:38:36 | |
| State statute will continue. | 01:38:38 | |
| Change and modify to address most jurisdictions and people's concerns right in this matter. | 01:38:40 | |
| Did that answer your question? It did and I was pretty sure that's where we're headed. But I want you to say it so. But if I was | 01:38:51 | |
| to make a guess, there's a chance because we do see that. We see the changing neighborhoods that are turning into. | 01:38:58 | |
| Short term rentals and stuff like that. It is a big investment for folks. I mean it's there. | 01:39:06 | |
| But in the same sense, you know, we regulate commercial businesses. | 01:39:11 | |
| Zones and stuff like that. | 01:39:19 | |
| So if I was to make a guess, I'll bet that changes again. | 01:39:22 | |
| So OK. | 01:39:25 | |
| Then we might be able to really affect a lot of these neighborhoods that are overrun. That's where we could regulate the amount of | 01:39:27 | |
| them or whatever. In certain parts maybe, who knows? We'll see what the future will bring. But that's what I wanted Mr. Boyce to | 01:39:32 | |
| hear, right there was. I was kind of one of his questions. | 01:39:38 | |
| Is. How can we allow that? Well? | 01:39:44 | |
| We have no peso in it, basically. | 01:39:46 | |
| Yes, Sir. | 01:39:49 | |
| So um. | 01:39:51 | |
| I'm going to let you take it right now while I think a minute. | 01:39:55 | |
| OK. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Any any other comments gentlemen? | 01:39:58 | |
| Then I will call for a motion. | 01:40:03 | |
| I didn't think he's gonna take it that far. | 01:40:07 | |
| I don't mind making the motion, but I don't want to cut you off if I want to say something Supervisor. Client. | 01:40:11 | |
| Yeah. Let me say something before you do that. OK. OK. And then you're welcome. OK. OK. | 01:40:17 | |
| This I said this earlier and I said it to everybody. This is a very important discussion we're having here today. | 01:40:26 | |
| I don't get the warm fuzzy feeling that we've covered every angle of it that we could have or should have to make this decision, | 01:40:35 | |
| the decision we're going to make. I I like I said earlier too, I am for an ordinance to help these folks that live in these, these | 01:40:40 | |
| neighborhoods and these places. I am for that. | 01:40:46 | |
| But I want to make sure we got it right when we do it. | 01:40:53 | |
| I guess I would say if if everybody's ready to make a decision, I guess I can. | 01:40:57 | |
| But. | 01:41:03 | |
| I guess we'll see where it goes. What what usually happens for the seven years I've been in this chair is we have a work session. | 01:41:06 | |
| We discussed some things. The next thing we do, we roll it into a meeting and we decide. | 01:41:12 | |
| A lot of times that's OK with the with the issues we're dealing with. | 01:41:18 | |
| I'm not sure we're covering all of our bases on this. | 01:41:24 | |
| I'm not sure that there shouldn't be some more discussion somewhere where we can actually talk. And for those of you and most of | 01:41:28 | |
| you sitting in this room probably know it. But I can't talk to this gentleman or that gentleman anywhere except sitting right here | 01:41:32 | |
| in this chair. | 01:41:37 | |
| That is the only time I can talk to him, The only other way he had to have any kind of discussion or to lean over and ask Mr. | 01:41:42 | |
| Humphrey a question what he thinks is inside of a work session. | 01:41:47 | |
| That is the only time we can do that. | 01:41:54 | |
| And I. | 01:41:56 | |
| I don't have the warm, fuzzy feelings that we've answered all those all my questions. | 01:41:59 | |
| Right now to make a decision. | 01:42:03 | |
| I guess I'm willing to do that if I need be, but. | 01:42:04 | |
| I don't know that I'm there yet. | 01:42:08 | |
| And I'm, you know, I don't know how to answer every question. I noticed our third public meeting with this. | 01:42:12 | |
| We've had two work sessions for. | 01:42:19 | |
| This kind of. | 01:42:23 | |
| Correction I. | 01:42:26 | |
| Heard going forward. Like I said, I have no problem bringing this back in a year and. | 01:42:29 | |
| Looking at it and hearing whatever. | 01:42:36 | |
| Your eager constituents have said good, bad. | 01:42:41 | |
| So I this is, this is your guidance decision, I've just brought back what I was thought I heard. Mr. Chair, if I may. Yes, Randy, | 01:42:45 | |
| you're absolutely right. You've listened to us and I think we've all vocalized the same thing. We have to do something. | 01:42:53 | |
| Well, I don't think anyone of those three that I've heard has has faltered on that one way or another. | 01:43:02 | |
| What I'm telling you today, and everybody that's listening to me right now, was when we do this, I want it to be right. | 01:43:08 | |
| You know, because we're going to affect people one way or another, positive and not so positive and whatnot, We're going to do | 01:43:14 | |
| that. | 01:43:17 | |
| But I want to make sure it's the right way. That's all I'm saying. | 01:43:20 | |
| So, Randy, when were you thinking? Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead. | 01:43:25 | |
| Mr. Chair, yes, I'll move to adopt Ordinance #2023-08. | 01:43:29 | |
| OK, we have a motion. | 01:43:37 | |
| All right, I'll second it. We have a motion and a second to approve item 3A. All those in favor say aye, Aye. | 01:43:40 | |
| I thank you, Randy. Thank you. Moving on. | 01:43:48 | |
| Let's start to build some momentum here, if we can. | 01:43:55 | |
| Item 4. | 01:43:59 | |
| Is that yours? Oh my goodness. Information Discussion. Action to approve adding a new position for a new Full-time Code | 01:44:01 | |
| Enforcement Officer to the Community Development Departments Fiscal Year 2024 Budget to facilitate the Permitting and Code | 01:44:08 | |
| Enforcement for Vacation Rental and Short Term Rental Ordinance #2023-08 Ready as we've talked in the past. | 01:44:16 | |
| Again, good morning, everyone. As we've talked in the past, this is going to take some personnel time to direct this and Mr. | 01:44:25 | |
| Menlov has been very supportive of this, but because this current position does not exist in the budget, that's why it's on the. | 01:44:33 | |
| Board agenda. | 01:44:44 | |
| To address this issue, we would like to hire, be able to hire and start interviewing as soon as we can for this position because I | 01:44:45 | |
| know we didn't really address this, but so the ordinance would go into effect, but we're planning on not enforcing this. | 01:44:54 | |
| Until the end of. | 01:45:03 | |
| So it'll be right before the big season. That'll give us time to get someone on board. | 01:45:05 | |
| Address everything, get it going, get it all moving forward. | 01:45:12 | |
| And also give everyone else time to get in and and. | 01:45:18 | |
| Fill out their forms and all those kind of things too, so we can adopt this and do it correctly as well as we can. So that's why | 01:45:23 | |
| I'm asking for this position supervisor, Humphrey. | 01:45:29 | |
| I have no discussion. | 01:45:37 | |
| A supervisor KLE. | 01:45:39 | |
| So we're only going to be looking one position, Randy. That is to start. There is a, I've talked with Mr. Minlove and Mr. O'dresco | 01:45:41 | |
| about the opportunity of a second one, but I want to confirm that that's needed. I don't want to just throw people. | 01:45:48 | |
| In here to just have people. | 01:45:56 | |
| So I want to grow this. | 01:46:00 | |
| Efficiently. And if we need a second person, I will probably be putting that in my budget moving forward that that that, if it | 01:46:03 | |
| gets adopted, can be done. But I'm currently wanted. I didn't want to wait until June of next year to even start the interview | 01:46:10 | |
| process because we'll be behind at that point. So yes, currently I'm only asking for one. | 01:46:18 | |
| With the possibility of a second one coming forward. | 01:46:26 | |
| After we see what this really entails and how responsive everyone is. | 01:46:31 | |
| Mr. Chair, I would like to make a comment because I think there is going to be a necessity for a second hearing officer. And the | 01:46:35 | |
| reason being is because light blight is one of my big things and we get hit with a lot of blight cases. And to put any more on our | 01:46:43 | |
| existing hearing officer with animal control and blight and things would just bottleneck everything because we're getting a whole | 01:46:50 | |
| new environment put into that situation. | 01:46:58 | |
| And I do believe to keep from bottling things, we need both of those positions because if we're going to enforce everything | 01:47:06 | |
| properly. | 01:47:10 | |
| Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Mr. Barrel. Carry on so I can finish my yes, go ahead. | 01:47:15 | |
| Umm. | 01:47:21 | |
| I I read in this. | 01:47:25 | |
| We we anticipated like $300,000 of income. | 01:47:28 | |
| Out of this ordinance. | 01:47:33 | |
| Give or take, Who knows? But that's kind of what we were guessing through our work session. So the thought was, is that is going | 01:47:35 | |
| to pay for our our person. | 01:47:39 | |
| To do that. | 01:47:45 | |
| What are we going to do if it doesn't? | 01:47:47 | |
| We're going to tap into general. | 01:47:51 | |
| Money to do this or we're going to cut back. How are we going to work this? | 01:47:53 | |
| Does does anybody know? | 01:48:00 | |
| Maybe Michael does. Good morning, Chairman, members of the board is pretty simple. So we've just upgraded to a new tracking system | 01:48:02 | |
| as well which has billing capabilities and and it's making it our staff time much more efficient when it comes to this. So we, we | 01:48:08 | |
| understand the first year of this ordinance is going to be the busiest time, right, because that's when we're going to have to | 01:48:15 | |
| identify the short term rentals and get them into our system and then after we get that into our system that's going to be | 01:48:21 | |
| automated as far as billing goes. | 01:48:27 | |
| And then we're going to be just like code enforcement does today, we're going to be complaint based. | 01:48:34 | |
| So and then with our new tracking system, we're going to be able to have our staff out in the field. | 01:48:39 | |
| Enter all of their documents and documentation that they go out to these properties to investigate out in the field itself. So | 01:48:46 | |
| we're making our staff much more efficient. Mr. Manloff has approved the new tracking system about six months ago and we went live | 01:48:52 | |
| yesterday. Yesterday we went live with that system, so. | 01:48:58 | |
| I'm guessing one person for the first year. | 01:49:05 | |
| Maybe two, I don't, I don't see the need for that. Once we get all the data entered into the system. And then each year we'll | 01:49:09 | |
| assess how many complaints we're going to be able to pull out, how many complaints, what type of complaints and the time we spent | 01:49:16 | |
| on these complaints. So we'll be able to provide that to the board each and every year. And if it does become an issue yet, we | 01:49:22 | |
| will happily go to Mr. Board and just present that documentation to you along with the revenue. | 01:49:29 | |
| And how much? | 01:49:36 | |
| It does, Michael, and thank you. And I really want to thank you to Randy for where you're looking at the first year because it is | 01:49:38 | |
| a trial, trial run. And so to jump in there and overload ourselves, I don't see the need to do that. | 01:49:44 | |
| I'd really like to say that, you know, we get what we need to get started and see where this goes. | 01:49:50 | |
| So I really like your approach to that. So thank you Randy. That's it. Mr. Surprising her free. Did you have any more. Yeah I I I | 01:49:56 | |
| wasn't reaching for a second position for code enforcement. I was wasn't it mentioned for a code I mean ordinate a hearing officer | 01:50:05 | |
| was that brought up as a as a second person not not an ordinance officer but a. | 01:50:14 | |
| A hearing officer, correct. Because if we, you're absolutely right, so. | 01:50:24 | |
| Thrown in here too. We're working with public works for hearing officer for them possibly too. So, yes, we're going to be looking | 01:50:30 | |
| at strongly trying to find a second hearing officer. OK Yeah. And that's what my support was in, in the hearing officer to keep | 01:50:37 | |
| from bottling up our our hearing cases, correct. Yes. OK. Thank you. Thank you, James. Mr. Chairman, Members of the Board. | 01:50:45 | |
| And looking at the number of units that we have in Gila County at a $250 per unit charge, we are looking at an absolute minimum of | 01:50:53 | |
| $200,000. | 01:50:58 | |
| Probably in the $300,000 neighborhood of revenue. Now there are those in this room that will test that. I'm a stickler with adding | 01:51:03 | |
| new positions. | 01:51:07 | |
| In fact, it. | 01:51:12 | |
| I say. | 01:51:16 | |
| Just because that is the way to ruin our. | 01:51:18 | |
| This is a particular position where. | 01:51:20 | |
| There will be revenues and I am absolutely 100% sure that'll be over north of 100,200 thousand dollars, The position that we're | 01:51:23 | |
| looking to add maximum with benefits and everything. | 01:51:29 | |
| Is $75,000 a year. So it'll be a net gain that we can continue to look at hearing officer or something like that as we go forward | 01:51:35 | |
| not wanting to jump in and and. | 01:51:41 | |
| As much or in excess of what we're planning on revenues. | 01:51:48 | |
| This position is essential for us to make this work, to be able to get the businesses, get the short term rentals registered and | 01:51:52 | |
| so that we can have them identified, to be able to administer all the things that have been discussed this morning. | 01:51:59 | |
| So I am, as Randy has said, been very supportive of this. | 01:52:08 | |
| We have to have this to administer the new ordinance that has been. | 01:52:14 | |
| Put in place this morning. | 01:52:20 | |
| OK, thank you for that input. If there's nothing else gentlemen, I'll call for a motion on for a Mr. Chair. I'll make the motion | 01:52:24 | |
| to approve a new position for a full time code enforcement officer to the community development departments for the 24 budget. | 01:52:30 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll 2nd that I have a motion, and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye, aye, aye. | 01:52:39 | |
| Motion carries Unanimous item 4B. Thank you, Randy. Information discussion. Action to adopt resolution #23-12-03. Authorizing the | 01:52:45 | |
| HeLa County Recorder as the Board of Supervisors designee to designate 2 emergency voting Centers for the 2024 Presidential | 01:52:53 | |
| preference election specified in the resolution. Sandy, Joe Bingham and I see you got Darling as well. Yes, good morning, Chairman | 01:53:01 | |
| and members of the board. We are bringing this resolution because then ARS 16411. | 01:53:10 | |
| E5 He states that the Board of Supervisors can designate emergency voting sites and designate somebody. So in the past the | 01:53:18 | |
| recorders office has done the emergency voting because we do hold the voter registration rolls. And so this is just a resolution | 01:53:25 | |
| for the upcoming presidential preference election which is held in March. And we would have the emergency voting on the 18th, the | 01:53:31 | |
| day before the election. | 01:53:37 | |
| Are there any questions? Thank you, Sadie Joe, Supervisor Humphrey. I have no questions. Thank you. Supervisor Klein. | 01:53:45 | |
| No, I'm good. Thank you. This is what we've done every year. This is just standard. So if anyones listening this is nothing new or | 01:53:53 | |
| different. So thank you Sadie. Joe, with that I'll call for a motion Mr. I moved to adopt resolution. | 01:54:00 | |
| 23-12-03. | 01:54:08 | |
| I'll second it. We have a motion to approve and seconded all those in favor, say aye, aye. | 01:54:12 | |
| Thank you. Same to you. | 01:54:20 | |
| Item 4C. Information Discussion Action to approve Amendment number one to IGA Contract number Ctr. 059342 with the Arizona | 01:54:22 | |
| Department of Health Services in the amount of $37,500 for the period of July 1, 2023 through June 30, 2027. | 01:54:32 | |
| To address important public health issues and communities affected by drug addiction and incarceration by working with the Gila | 01:54:42 | |
| County Probation. | 01:54:47 | |
| And. | 01:54:53 | |
| So we have Jay Moyer. Yes, good morning, Chairman, Members of the Board, thank you for this opportunity. Mr. Beck here as well for | 01:54:55 | |
| from the Health Department. | 01:54:59 | |
| We are requesting the renewal of the Senate bill 1847 IGA between probation and the health department. The IGA is a five year | 01:55:05 | |
| agreement. | 01:55:09 | |
| With the Arizona Department of Health. | 01:55:14 | |
| That was originally signed back in April of 22. | 01:55:17 | |
| The original agreement was with the County Health Department for funding under the SB1847, which is the medical marijuana revenue | 01:55:20 | |
| stream. | 01:55:24 | |
| For the purpose of addressing important public health. | 01:55:28 | |
| Issues and communities affected by drug addiction and incarceration. | 01:55:32 | |
| Gila County was allocated through $37,500 of the total $5,000,000 based on. | 01:55:37 | |
| Proportion to the population. | 01:55:46 | |
| Based on the scope of the funding, Mr. O'Driscoll and our former Chief Probation Officer. | 01:55:48 | |
| Determine funding would fit probations mission to offer substance abuse treatment and electronic monitoring. | 01:55:53 | |
| Services to offenders with substance use disorders and who are facing incarceration. | 01:56:00 | |
| Are asking for the agreement to be renewed so the Department of Health Services can issue an updated purchase order for fiscal | 01:56:05 | |
| year 24 so that we can utilize those funds for those purposes. | 01:56:10 | |
| And Mr. Beck's here for the technical questions, if you have any. Please go ahead, Josh, if you have questions. Yeah, this made | 01:56:15 | |
| sense. It's for Justice Reinvestment. So it was a perfect fit for the probation department, even though a lot of these funds are | 01:56:21 | |
| starting to come through public health these days. And we made sure to work with Steven Sard on this, and we're happy to work with | 01:56:27 | |
| Jay as well. OK, Thank you. Supervisor Humphrey. I have no question. Supervisor Klein, thanks for doing it. Yeah, thank you very | 01:56:33 | |
| much. I'll call for a motion. | 01:56:38 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'd make the motion to approve Amendment #1 to the Arizona Department of Health Services Intergovernmental Agreement | 01:56:46 | |
| contract number. | 01:56:50 | |
| Ctr. 059342 in the amount of $37,500 is presented, Mr. Chair, I'll second that a Motion to approve, and 2nd and all those in favor | 01:56:55 | |
| say aye. | 01:57:01 | |
| Aye aye Motion passes. Thank you very much. Item 4D Information discussion Action to accept FFY. 2024 Governor's Office of Hwy. | 01:57:07 | |
| Safety Grant Award. | 01:57:12 | |
| In the amount of $10,000 for the period of October 1st, 2023 to September 30th, 2024 that will be used to support Sheriff's Office | 01:57:19 | |
| personnel services, overtime and employee related expenses for selective traffic enforcement program speed enforcement activities. | 01:57:25 | |
| Good to see you Sarah. Yes, Good morning, Chairman, Members of the Board, this is the annual grant application we put into the | 01:57:32 | |
| Governor's office. | 01:57:39 | |
| To support our extra enforcement for DUI and speed related. | 01:57:46 | |
| Citations throughout Gila County and this year we were awarded $10,000. So with that, I'll take any questions. I have no | 01:57:53 | |
| questions. Supervisor Client, thanks for doing this. Sarah, give you some money. So thank you. Thank you, Sarah. With that, I'll | 01:58:00 | |
| call for a motion. Mr. I move to accept an FFY 2024 Governor's Office of Hwy. Safety Grant. | 01:58:08 | |
| Award Contract #2024-TTS023 and the amount of $10,000 is presented and I'll second it. We have a motion and a second to approve | 01:58:15 | |
| all those in favor. Say aye, Aye, aye. Motion passes. Thank you, Sarah. Information Discussion. Action to adopt. Resolution | 01:58:24 | |
| #23-12-01. Resolution #23-12-02 Appointing Marin. | 01:58:33 | |
| Blythe Belling, financial director as the chief fiscal officer for the Gila County. | 01:58:42 | |
| As required by Arizona Revised Statute 41 Dash 1279.07 E to submit the Fiscal Year 2023 and Fiscal Year 2024 expenditure | 01:58:48 | |
| limitation reports to the Arizona Auditor General. James, Mr. Chairman, Members of the Board, as you just stated in accordance | 01:58:56 | |
| with Arizona Revised Statutes. | 01:59:03 | |
| Section 41-1279-07. | 01:59:10 | |
| The state law requires that the board, who rises, appoint the chief financial officer of the county for reporting of the annual | 01:59:15 | |
| expenditure limitation report to the board there, too. | 01:59:21 | |
| Ordinances that are requested. | 01:59:29 | |
| That you approve today. One is for submitting the annual expenditure limitation for the year ended 2023. | 01:59:32 | |
| And the 2nd 123-12 dash. | 01:59:43 | |
| 02 is for the fiscal year ended June 30, 2024. | 01:59:48 | |
| Getting both of those, El. | 01:59:53 | |
| Thank you, Supervisor Humphrey. | 01:59:56 | |
| I have. I have no questions, just appreciation for Mary. | 02:00:00 | |
| Have that ability and being able and willing to to do that. | 02:00:05 | |
| Supervisor Klein I'm good. Yeah, man, quite cute. Is this a promotion or just, you know, a title? It's That is what her title is. | 02:00:10 | |
| As finance director of the county, she is chief financial officer as part of her title, Regular title. | 02:00:20 | |
| This is just a required. | 02:00:29 | |
| Specific designation that you are required as a Board of Supervisors by statute to take care of this administrative action. | 02:00:33 | |
| Annually. OK, I understand. Thank you. With that I'll call for a motion. Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to adopt resolution | 02:00:40 | |
| number 231201 and resolution number 231202. Mr. Carroll, I'll second that motion and. | 02:00:47 | |
| Approve all those in favor. Say aye Aye Motion passes Thank you. Item F4F Information Discussion Action to Approve Contract | 02:00:55 | |
| Agreement Number ADSP 017 Dash 149774 with CDW Dash G in the amount of. | 02:01:04 | |
| $49,939.09 for the purchase of Paris Security software to be billed annually for three one year terms. Harry, Good Morning | 02:01:13 | |
| Chairman Christensen and Board members. the IT department would like to purchase the Verona Security Software, the tool designed | 02:01:20 | |
| to identify network vulnerabilities and enhance the monitoring of our digital environment. The software is not only a strategic | 02:01:28 | |
| asset to managing Auditor General requirements, but also represents an opportunity. | 02:01:36 | |
| To optimize our resources, the software will replace one of my open System Administrator positions, defend the solution. I will be | 02:01:43 | |
| getting back one of the positions and using the funding from the position. | 02:01:49 | |
| Thank you, Kerry. Supervisor Humphrey. | 02:01:56 | |
| I guess I just have one question and I think it's great and I'm glad it's before us today, but. | 02:01:58 | |
| The county manager can accept anything under 50 and this is under 50. So I mean it's fine but and I appreciate you presenting it | 02:02:04 | |
| to us, but that's the only question that I had. | 02:02:09 | |
| It's there's a three-year term on it. So it's OK the three-year term. So it would make it. | 02:02:16 | |
| OK. Thank you, advisor Clay. | 02:02:21 | |
| So Carrie, thank you. But I think one of the one of the really important things is as you guys know, we every year we get hammered | 02:02:23 | |
| on cybersecurity in our audits. | 02:02:28 | |
| Basically to the point where they stood there and told us there's really nothing we can do to change that's going to be a yearly | 02:02:33 | |
| deal, but this is a step in the right direction. | 02:02:37 | |
| From what I understand this is a very good system that will help alleviate a lot. Yes Sir, it will alleviate a lot. 1 prime | 02:02:41 | |
| example is I was making a change on one of our systems and we had the the temporary solution in place as a test and they called me | 02:02:48 | |
| asking me if this change should be made. So they are also monitoring our system and the changes being made. So it's not only us | 02:02:54 | |
| being able to pull reports and monitor this with the system, they're also monitoring us to make sure that nothing is trying to | 02:03:01 | |
| infiltrate us. | 02:03:07 | |
| Right. And so, you know, yeah, I look at it like, yeah, 49,000, but it's more than $49,000, way more than that and so. | 02:03:14 | |
| I'm not sure we're totally, totally satisfy our auditors, but maybe a little bit. So it'll help. Thank you, Carrie. You're | 02:03:24 | |
| welcome. Yes, thank you, Carrie. So you're cutting a position in order to pay for this. This is not just a want though. This is a | 02:03:30 | |
| need. | 02:03:35 | |
| Correct. I am. I am trading position for this and it is a want and a need. I think it's a big need for the county to. | 02:03:41 | |
| Make us feel at least a little bit more secure, You know, as. | 02:03:47 | |
| As Mr. Klein or Mr. Yeah, Mr. Klein said you. | 02:03:52 | |
| Alleviate all of them. You know you're you're never going to be able to stop everything, but this will help us. | 02:03:56 | |
| Than that. So and this position is an unfilled position. Yes. Yes. OK, thank you. With that I'll call for motion. Mr. Chair, I | 02:04:02 | |
| move to approve contract agreement number ADSP 017 Dash 149774 with CDWG in the amount of $49,959 and 0. | 02:04:14 | |
| 0.09 cents as presented. And I'll second that we have a motion and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye, aye, Mr. | 02:04:27 | |
| Yes, Sir. | 02:04:38 | |
| One other comment about the price that I know that Kerry has worked really hard that when they first came back with a proposed | 02:04:40 | |
| contract value is like 6070 thousand so. | 02:04:45 | |
| Gotten even better value for this. So that's where it ended up slightly less than 50. Thank you for that, Carrie. | 02:04:52 | |
| Every dollar we can save so. | 02:05:00 | |
| Item 4G Information Discussion Action to approve the Arizona Department of Health Services Delegation Agreement number AGR | 02:05:01 | |
| 2023-024, which will allow the Gila County Health Department to conduct local inspection and enforcement activities that are | 02:05:07 | |
| designed to reduce. | 02:05:12 | |
| The risk of disease transmission to residents and visitors of Gila County. Josh Good morning, Chairman, Christensen Supervisor. So | 02:05:18 | |
| the last time that we renewed our delegation agreement with ADHS was in 2017. This is our delegation agreement that supports all | 02:05:25 | |
| the food inspections we do. Property maintenance, public health nuisance from the public health side, Children's camp, Campground, | 02:05:32 | |
| School health smoke free Arizona. | 02:05:39 | |
| Which is why we continue to put the delegation agreement between to the Board and move forward with these. | 02:06:19 | |
| Thank you very much, Advisor Humphrey. I have no question. Supervisor Klein. Thank you, Josh. Yes, thank you. With that I'll call | 02:06:26 | |
| for motion. Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve Arizona Department of Health Services delegation agreement number A | 02:06:34 | |
| GR2023-024 is presented. Mr. Terry, I'll 2nd that I have a motion and a second to approve all those in favor, say aye, aye. Thank | 02:06:42 | |
| you, Josh. And next we have 4H information discussion action to approve Amendment #7, the contract #019-0444. | 02:06:50 | |
| Between the Penal Gila Council for Senior Citizens, Area Agents. | 02:06:59 | |
| Agency on Aging, Region 5 and Gila County Community Services Department extending the contract effective July 1st, 2023 to June | 02:07:04 | |
| 30th, 2024 and adding $156,000 to be used for home repair, renovations and housing services for total contract amount of 257,778 | 02:07:12 | |
| Haley. | 02:07:20 | |
| Good to see you, Chairman, Members of the board. | 02:07:29 | |
| This is like you mentioned, this is a contract extension through June 30th of 2024 with a significant increase in funding. | 02:07:33 | |
| What's really great about this grant is through penalty like council for senior citizens, we can focus on our our citizens that | 02:07:41 | |
| are 60 plus and there's no income requirement for them to qualify for this. They just have to meet the age requirement and there | 02:07:48 | |
| is a $4000 cap per household and we can do things like. | 02:07:54 | |
| Appliance repair and replacement home repairs and things like that. So it's it's really wonderful for our senior population. | 02:08:02 | |
| Hey, Cortana, Supervisor Humphrey. | 02:08:09 | |
| Yeah, I I guess the question is who is? | 02:08:11 | |
| I guess who is the contractors that you used to spend this money with? | 02:08:15 | |
| So this is a little less stringent so we can use more general contractors that are not like my next item that are state certified. | 02:08:20 | |
| Very specifically. So this one we do have a little more leniency on as well. OK. My question was which local contractors are would | 02:08:29 | |
| you use for this funding, whoever bids on it Really it's just. | 02:08:35 | |
| I don't know all of their their names off the top of my head, unfortunately. | 02:08:42 | |
| I could get that information. OK. I'll follow up on the next question. Thank you. | 02:08:47 | |
| Supervisor client thanks. | 02:08:52 | |
| Yes. Thank you, Kaylee. And with that, I'll call for a motion. | 02:08:55 | |
| I sure I move to approve Amendment #7 to Contract #019-0444 with. | 02:08:59 | |
| But now he'll a counsel for senior citizens. | 02:09:07 | |
| Area agency. | 02:09:11 | |
| On aging Region 5 to increase the contract in the amount of $156,000 as presented. | 02:09:14 | |
| I'll second that we have a motion and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye, aye, aye. Kaylee, next item. | 02:09:22 | |
| Item I Information Discussion Action to approve Amendment number one to Service Agreement number 062922 with Advantage Home | 02:09:30 | |
| Performance Incorporated to extend the term of the contract for one additional year to September 5th, 2024 with a not to exceed | 02:09:37 | |
| amount of $546,679. | 02:09:45 | |
| Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, this is our first renewal option for our contract with Advantage Whole Performance. | 02:09:53 | |
| These contract this contractor is specific to energy efficiency and code improvement for our weatherization assistance program. | 02:10:01 | |
| Um, and they are the the only bidder that we had for this and they are state certified. | 02:10:09 | |
| Thank you, Kaylee. Supervisor Humphrey. | 02:10:16 | |
| OK, so all of this funding needs to go to a BPI certified contractor. All, all, all of that $546,000? | 02:10:18 | |
| OK. Then that that's why I was going to follow up because I understand that if they have to be BPI certified and are not, but with | 02:10:29 | |
| your program and the funding, I very much would like to. | 02:10:36 | |
| Help support all the local contractors that we can with some of the funding that we can use and and be prepared to give me names | 02:10:44 | |
| next time you come up with grants. I want to know who it goes to. So I if I know some licensed contractors that it's not going to | 02:10:51 | |
| believe me I'll send them to you. Because as a contractor myself I've helped two or three local contractors get their license and | 02:10:58 | |
| and and I want some of this money to go to them because. | 02:11:06 | |
| They're here. Yeah. It would be wonderful to keep it local, so thank you. | 02:11:13 | |
| Supervisor Klein. | 02:11:19 | |
| So I don't disagree with. | 02:11:21 | |
| Roger Humphrey. | 02:11:23 | |
| You know, we've we've thrown those questions out now for seven years. | 02:11:25 | |
| You know, and it really gets frustrating that we don't have our local contractors knocking on your door every day. | 02:11:30 | |
| For that but. | 02:11:37 | |
| You know, because I think I for one, I agree with Tim as I'd like to see it though locally too as well. | 02:11:39 | |
| It gets kind of frustrating at times, this Advanced Home Performance Incorporated, They were the only ones that applied to from | 02:11:47 | |
| the state. | 02:11:51 | |
| Wow. OK. Thank you, Katie. | 02:11:56 | |
| Thank you, Kelly. | 02:11:58 | |
| With that, I'll call. | 02:12:00 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve Amendment One, number one to service, Agreement number 062922. | 02:12:02 | |
| With advantage Home performance with a not to exceed amount of 500 and $546,679 as presented. | 02:12:10 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll second that. OK. In a second to approve all those in favor, say aye, Aye, Aye, Aye. | 02:12:19 | |
| And item 4. | 02:12:26 | |
| Information Discussion Action to Approve the Administrative Modification number 001 of Cooperative Forest Rd. | 02:12:29 | |
| Agreement #20. | 02:12:38 | |
| RO 1103 one 200-003 between Heather County and the United States Department of Agriculture Forest Service on our National Forest | 02:12:41 | |
| to update the point of contact for the respective parties and authorize the Chairman signature on the agreement we have homeroom. | 02:12:48 | |
| Thank you, Chairman. Good morning, Board members. | 02:12:55 | |
| This item is rather simple one initiated by the Forest Service. They wanted to make sure that we had the right contacts and the | 02:13:04 | |
| agreement. | 02:13:07 | |
| On page four of the agreement, you find those names on the part of the county, it's Tom Goodman and myself. On the part of the | 02:13:11 | |
| Forest Service is Michelle, Tom and Virginia Carico. That's that's the only change that takes place to this agreement. | 02:13:17 | |
| We continue to meet on a regular basis with the Forest Service. I think the contract with them, the same contract requires that we | 02:13:24 | |
| meet with them every quarter. We do that. We have an agenda item. We have minutes. We make progress on a lot of the big stuff. | 02:13:31 | |
| 512 Rd. | 02:13:39 | |
| Townside act, for instance, is one of the items that comes up with that on that agenda. In the near future, we're going to turn | 02:13:42 | |
| our focus to the roads and when we do, we'll bring that to you at that time. | 02:13:47 | |
| With that, I would like to ask your approval to approve the modification to the agreement we have with the Forest Service and the | 02:13:54 | |
| chances again that take place are the contacts for each party. Thank you Merrill Supervisor Humphrey. | 02:14:01 | |
| Tomorrow. I thank you very much for all that you do and reach for in the meetings and things you have to keep. | 02:14:08 | |
| Us in all the activities that you do. So thank you very much. | 02:14:15 | |
| Supervised. | 02:14:21 | |
| Homeroom. I'm good. Thank you. | 02:14:23 | |
| Thank you, Humira. With that, I'll call for a motion. Mr. I move to approve Administrative Modification number 0012, Cooperative | 02:14:26 | |
| Forest Rd. Agreement #20-4011, zero three 1200-003 as presented. I'll second that we have a motion and a second to approve all | 02:14:34 | |
| those in favor, say aye, aye, aye motion passes don't move. Romero item 4K information discussion action to approve State of | 02:14:41 | |
| Arizona contract number. | 02:14:49 | |
| Center 066876 with JE4 Hydrology and Geomorphology. | 02:14:57 | |
| Incorporated on a time and materials basis in an amount not to exceed $90,000 for maintenance of. | 02:15:05 | |
| You get that. | 02:15:15 | |
| You're good. No sweat. I thought that was a person. | 02:15:20 | |
| For maintenance of the flood alert system in Hewlett County for the period of December 5th, 2023 through July 31st, 2024. | 02:15:24 | |
| Thank you, Chairman. This item is about the maintenance of our ring gauges. Back in the Telegraph fire, we hired Judy Fuller to to | 02:15:34 | |
| help us maintain some gauges very specific to the fire and some cameras very specific to the fire. Then last year we entered into | 02:15:41 | |
| a contract for J Fuller to look at all our Dages. We have 27 gauges and the 27 gauges, 11 of them have flow meters or pressure | 02:15:47 | |
| transducers if you will. | 02:15:54 | |
| We also maintain several repeaters on some of the mountain heights that we have in the county so that we can transmit with our | 02:16:01 | |
| with our ring gauges. We have been maintaining those in a haphazard passion in the past. | 02:16:08 | |
| With this contract last year, with the contract that we have, they visited every site, they make the multiple. | 02:16:15 | |
| Observations and multiple repairs on many of our gauges and they gave us and part of the package that you have is 100 page report | 02:16:25 | |
| on everything they did to every. | 02:16:30 | |
| OK. And then making that that report to us, they told us specifically what they measured, what was wrong and what they needed to | 02:16:35 | |
| correct that. OK. One of the things that in talking to to Jay Fuller, one of the things that I would like to explore is to have | 02:16:43 | |
| some of our team do some of the minor repair and ring gauges. After all they have a a battery that is that that that is fed by a | 02:16:50 | |
| solar panel and those two things are both easy to diagnose and easy to repair and. | 02:16:57 | |
| Jay Fuller would be happy to have our folks joining them when they go out and make the repair so that in future years we hire them | 02:17:06 | |
| for the telemetry. | 02:17:09 | |
| The complicated stuff. And we do all the easy stuff ourselves. | 02:17:13 | |
| Today we still have some gauges that need some transmitters to be replaced, and we need we have some work on repeaters. | 02:17:18 | |
| And in top of that we like for them to go to every gauge one more year, all 27 gauges and that's part of the contract. The $93,000 | 02:17:24 | |
| in this not to exceed contract includes $50,000 for the maintenance of the 27 gauges to go out to every site and make whatever | 02:17:32 | |
| repair is necessary as well as some capital improvements. I'm going to call them capital improvements or big ticket items. That's | 02:17:40 | |
| several repeaters and and and multiple transmitters that need to be in these gauges. | 02:17:47 | |
| This is part of a statewide rain gauge system and the data will reside with the state as well as with us. It is online. We | 02:17:56 | |
| actually, the front page of the county website has a little section at the bottom that rain gauges. It's active. Most of the | 02:18:01 | |
| gauges are working, not all of them right now. And you can actually go to each gauge and see what's happened in the last, I think | 02:18:07 | |
| 3 months. | 02:18:13 | |
| But if we wanted to ask for the data for the last couple of years, we can also do that again. | 02:18:19 | |
| This is in support of us being prepared for emergencies. We, you know, we've had fires, we've had floods and we've even had | 02:18:29 | |
| tornadoes. | 02:18:32 | |
| On that particular day, I did go and look to see how much rain we received in the area and from Omaha, NE I was able to get on our | 02:18:38 | |
| website and look at those gauges. | 02:18:42 | |
| So it's I think many, many counties support this and it's something I think that particularly for Gila County is important and I | 02:18:47 | |
| would like to ask your approval of this contract. | 02:18:53 | |
| Thank you, Merrill. Supervisor Humphrey. Yeah, one of my first questions was this. Other agencies use this information other than | 02:18:59 | |
| Gila County and you answered that by saying it's part of a statewide system. | 02:19:05 | |
| Which leads me to another question. In a statewide system, is there any opportunity perhaps for state funding for statewide flood? | 02:19:12 | |
| Alert. | 02:19:22 | |
| Initially. | 02:19:24 | |
| Chairman and Reicher Humphrey. Initially the state helped fund the system, but they haven't funded the system in the past. Yes, we | 02:19:27 | |
| actually were using some other miracle for gauges during the Telegraph fire, as probably they were using some of our gauges. | 02:19:35 | |
| And just because the gauge is located in Maricopa County doesn't mean that the water doesn't float the Gila County and vice versa. | 02:19:43 | |
| So we use gauges that don't belong to us as well when we look at the weather data. | 02:19:49 | |
| And we can, we can go back to the state and remind them that this is a statewide organization and in pursuit of some funding from | 02:19:56 | |
| them and I'd be happy to do that and because we don't get near enough flood funding. So any little bit might help. Thank you very | 02:20:01 | |
| much. | 02:20:07 | |
| Thank you Supervisor Klein. Thank you Mr. Chair Homer thank you for the all this I I remember when we put all that into effect | 02:20:13 | |
| after that fire as as time goes by are we going to be looking at. | 02:20:19 | |
| Switching them around or putting them in different areas or are they just going to remain? | 02:20:26 | |
| Kind of where they're at. | 02:20:31 | |
| They're really handy to have. | 02:20:33 | |
| IT Chairman and I surprised your client. We can move them wherever we want to. As a matter of fact some of them are going to get | 02:20:36 | |
| moved a small distance to collect better data as part of this as part of this contract. They have a very specific what To Do List | 02:20:43 | |
| that they share with us. It's a recommendation from them and and in every time we move something in the Forest Service, you know | 02:20:50 | |
| that there needs to be permitting that's included in here to make sure that they talk to the floor service. | 02:20:57 | |
| But yes we need to get as smart as we can on the location of the gauges and the number of gauges. And I'm and I'm here to tell you | 02:21:05 | |
| that the 27 gauges we probably. | 02:21:09 | |
| We'll find out that we don't need 27 where they're located and we need to just start to take this in this data and convert it to | 02:21:14 | |
| information. | 02:21:19 | |
| And and and and this gives us the ability to do that where we can focus on that. In the past we wanted to focus on repairing the | 02:21:25 | |
| gauges in house. | 02:21:29 | |
| And Spencer Manager is doing that and we spun our wheels so much that it took us to Jay Faller during the alert during the | 02:21:35 | |
| Telegraph Fire. | 02:21:39 | |
| But I think with the data that we get and that the team are starting to use this data, there's a couple of drainage issues that we | 02:21:44 | |
| had recently where we went through to see how much did it really rain on that day. | 02:21:49 | |
| And I think the whole team is going to get smarter about that and also whether or not and where we need the gauges. That's a good | 02:21:55 | |
| point though. | 02:21:58 | |
| Thank you, Homer. | 02:22:03 | |
| Thank you, Homer. A very vital system that we utilize. So I will call for a motion. | 02:22:04 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve State of Arizona contract number CR 066876. | 02:22:11 | |
| The JE Fuller hydrology. | 02:22:18 | |
| Yeah, incorporated with a not to exceed amount of 93,000. | 02:22:21 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll second that. We have a motion and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye, aye, aye, aye. | 02:22:27 | |
| If you numero Item L Information Discussion Action to Authorize the Advertisement of Requests for Proposals number 110623 on Call | 02:22:34 | |
| Heavy Truck and Equipment Service with a not to exceed amount of $150,000 per year per contract for on call Service. | 02:22:43 | |
| Thank you, Chair. | 02:22:52 | |
| Oftentimes I've come to the board and we've talked about the contract that we have with with Caterpillar that is a source world | 02:22:54 | |
| based contract. It's kind of like a state contract. | 02:22:59 | |
| It's something that is bid nationwide and I believe we get a fair price from Caterpillar on that. Recently we bought a generator | 02:23:05 | |
| for one of these repeaters that I talked about that's up on Montfort that we need it replaced. | 02:23:12 | |
| Because it powers not just the ring gauges, but some of the sheriff telemetry. | 02:23:20 | |
| And they were very competitive and actually were the low bidder on that one and I was surprised to find that out. But nonetheless, | 02:23:27 | |
| even though Caterpillar is AI think a strategic partner for the county. | 02:23:32 | |
| We need competition when we go out to repair equipment. Recently we started up a weekly. | 02:23:37 | |
| That shows us that number of heavy equipment that is down and when it's expected to come up. And we have a couple of items that | 02:23:44 | |
| were critical for us that we really didn't have an update when somebody thought it would get repaired. | 02:23:51 | |
| Both because we couldn't do it in house and and the one single vendor that we had wasn't offering a date to repair. So that | 02:23:59 | |
| triggered this, this, this action item to bring to the board something that says can we find other vendors, can we have these | 02:24:05 | |
| contracts ready to go, can we can we cover the whole county And not that we would use these vendors to the to the to the not to | 02:24:12 | |
| exceed $150,000. | 02:24:18 | |
| It's not that we're going to use them all the time, but we need to have some vendors that we can rely on besides a single source | 02:24:25 | |
| that we have today. Oftentimes our staff is, is, is our our our fleet services group is, is short staffed. | 02:24:31 | |
| They have, they may. They may have half the team or even a third of the team. | 02:24:39 | |
| We have vacancies. | 02:24:45 | |
| And oftentimes it's think that we could repair, we were fully staffed, but right now we're not fully staffed. | 02:24:47 | |
| And so and right now Caterpillar is. | 02:24:54 | |
| And so we need to take some action and the action is there's there's to look for multiple sources that we assign one region of the | 02:24:59 | |
| county each. We'd like to have three vendors. | 02:25:04 | |
| And that we would call the first vendor, it's a cost and convenience contract where we call the first lowest cost vendor. And I | 02:25:11 | |
| think can you come out here, they say no, then we go to the next one. | 02:25:16 | |
| And the first call would go to the one that's low cost for that region. | 02:25:21 | |
| It's something new for us and if it works, we'll of course improve it over time, but it's something, some action that we need to | 02:25:26 | |
| take to make us more. | 02:25:31 | |
| Reliable in the work that we provide during. | 02:25:38 | |
| Routing maintenance as well as emergency maintenance. | 02:25:42 | |
| Thank you, Mayoral Supervisor Humphrey. I have no questions. | 02:25:46 | |
| So. | 02:25:52 | |
| I think this leads in. For me it leads into a bigger issue. | 02:25:53 | |
| And that is our mechanics. | 02:25:57 | |
| And so. | 02:26:00 | |
| When we start looking at needing. | 02:26:02 | |
| Not that we want to, but we need to look for outside help in the mechanic field. | 02:26:06 | |
| Is there any way we would ever be to the point where we would have our our? | 02:26:12 | |
| Own mechanics, trained and available to the extent we need. | 02:26:17 | |
| To take this place, that's a good question and soon you'll see a board item come. | 02:26:22 | |
| One of the things that that we've been thinking of this at the 40,000 foot level if you will. | 02:26:29 | |
| And so one of the conclusions that we came to with something like. | 02:26:35 | |
| We wanted to repair an automobile. | 02:26:40 | |
| There's probably 20-30 places in this county we can go through to repair for truck today. | 02:26:43 | |
| OK. And they would give us good service and it's competitive? | 02:26:48 | |
| If we want to repair A10 wheel dump truck. | 02:26:52 | |
| There's very few places we can go. | 02:26:55 | |
| So the need for mechanics, when we talk about mechanics, Virginia County and probably for many of the rural counties in Arizona, | 02:26:58 | |
| is for heavy equipment mechanics. | 02:27:02 | |
| So we're going to be bringing to the board a progression plan that takes our entry level mechanics. | 02:27:06 | |
| And if they get the proper training and we have the training selected in its nationwide training and it's not something that's | 02:27:12 | |
| going to go away. | 02:27:16 | |
| They can find their way to being a senior mechanic, but it would require for them to be competent in heavy equipment maintenance. | 02:27:20 | |
| And it would be something that's not subject to whether I'm I like the person or don't don't like the person. If they meet these | 02:27:28 | |
| these training requirements, they will progress in a in a in a in a number of years to a senior mechanic, both to retain folks as | 02:27:33 | |
| well as. | 02:27:39 | |
| Interest people in in the job that we have. | 02:27:47 | |
| And and that's one of the things that we'll be looking at our team actually. | 02:27:50 | |
| Can repair tent wheel dump trucks. They're not caterpillars. OK And talking with with with the team I asked them can we repair | 02:27:55 | |
| transmission for A10 wheel dump truck? We can. | 02:28:01 | |
| We can do that. | 02:28:07 | |
| And we can do that heavy maintenance on tent will done first. So we have the time to do it. That's a different question on | 02:28:09 | |
| caterpillars, it's, it's a little different. | 02:28:13 | |
| We're not as well equipped to do that, but part of the training is to get them to learn how to do, how to repair a Caterpillar | 02:28:17 | |
| equipment. And I know Caterpillar is very jealous with that information and very and holds it, but we can we can find a way to do | 02:28:23 | |
| that and that's the purpose of that progression plan. | 02:28:29 | |
| That we would like to bring to the board. You know, I look at these figures, I know $150,000 for a year. | 02:28:35 | |
| It's a lot of money. | 02:28:42 | |
| And so I don't, I don't know the our shop mechanics well enough enough to know if we have the interest. | 02:28:44 | |
| Here in Helena County, that someone would want to take and go on with the education and training you would take. | 02:28:51 | |
| To get there, but. | 02:28:57 | |
| I'm all for putting money into our people we have in house. | 02:28:58 | |
| But thank you, Homer. | 02:29:02 | |
| Thank you, Humira. Appreciate that. And with that, I'll call for motion. | 02:29:05 | |
| Mr. Chair, I moved to authorize the advertisement for request for proposal number 110623. | 02:29:10 | |
| On on call heavy truck and equipment service with a not to exceed amount of $150,000 per year contract contract as presented. | 02:29:19 | |
| I'll second that motion and a second to approve all those in favor, say aye, aye. Thank you, Humira. Information discussion on | 02:29:29 | |
| item. | 02:29:34 | |
| Action to approve Intergovernmental Agreement number 100723 between Heel County and Toronto Basin School District #33. | 02:29:39 | |
| Which authorizes the purchase of fuel from Gila County and allows par. | 02:29:48 | |
| Of the school buses at the County Road yard in Punt and. | 02:29:53 | |
| Thank you, Chairman. | 02:29:58 | |
| I'd like to with your permission, Chairman just mentioned. | 02:29:59 | |
| A umbrella kind of thought around the last two items that I just talked about. Both items we go out and take money out of our | 02:30:04 | |
| pocket and and and hire somebody to bring a valuable service to us and we pay them. | 02:30:10 | |
| Both items included the thought of can we do that ourselves? And so when we approach Jay Fuller, one question that we asked them | 02:30:18 | |
| was can we join you when you go out on these trips? | 02:30:23 | |
| And besides, if anybody worked to read their report, you would get a lesson on how to repair ring gauges just with the report | 02:30:30 | |
| that's in the package. | 02:30:33 | |
| OK, and so we can learn even from that if we want to. | 02:30:37 | |
| But yes, they say yes, they're 100% behind that. They don't want to help us to do the simple stuff. They want to help us with the | 02:30:40 | |
| complicated stuff, the engineering type of value that they would bring to the equation. | 02:30:46 | |
| On the second item, even though we have up to 150,000, I hope we don't spend up to 150,000 that's the hope, but if we. | 02:30:52 | |
| And nobody else is doing it and our equipment is down then we should spend it. But at the same time we have this progression plan | 02:31:02 | |
| where we focus on heavy equipment maintenance and both of them is to make ourselves more self reliant. We rely on ourselves | 02:31:09 | |
| instead of necessarily others. I just wanted to make sure that that wasn't lost in the in the four items. OK, Chairman, if you if | 02:31:15 | |
| you're OK, I'll proceed then with the with the. | 02:31:22 | |
| IGA. | 02:31:29 | |
| With counter based on Unified School District #33, which is about offering them fuel from our fueling station in Tanto Basin as | 02:31:30 | |
| well as allowing them to park their school buses inside the town to Basin County Road yard. So the IGA incorporates both of those | 02:31:36 | |
| items. | 02:31:42 | |
| In it. And so we have fuel in many places of the county and we offer this service of school districts being able to use fuel as | 02:31:49 | |
| well as fire districts from our filling stations. | 02:31:55 | |
| Fuel to them is we buy fuel based on a oil. | 02:32:02 | |
| Information system oil focus, I forget the middle term. It's a commodity way of pricing oil. It's different fuels and it's used | 02:32:09 | |
| all across the United States and they print out that value every day. What our vendors, what we've asked our vendors to do is you | 02:32:18 | |
| deliver fuel to us this week, use the Monday 8:00 Opus. | 02:32:26 | |
| Commodity price or fuel for that week. And so they deliver that and they charge us a delivery in an overhead seat. | 02:32:35 | |
| It ranges anywhere from 10 to $0.35 per gallon. | 02:32:42 | |
| Based on where it's located and the size of the tank. | 02:32:47 | |
| Because if it's located in Payson, I think she could get. | 02:32:50 | |
| And Payson and Star Valley Rd. Yard has a large tank, so when they show up they deliver a lot of fuel. | 02:32:54 | |
| When they deliver too young, it's a little different distance and more rugged and the tank and young is smaller, so the price | 02:32:59 | |
| varies based on a competitive bit that we went out and got from them and made a decision on which one to select. | 02:33:06 | |
| On top of that, on a different line item on the invoice that we get from our fuel supplier, he puts down all the taxes OK, | 02:33:12 | |
| including the hearth. | 02:33:17 | |
| So all the taxes including on a separate line item and that some of that is the cost of fuel to us. | 02:33:22 | |
| On top of that we had $0.18 a gall. | 02:33:29 | |
| Gila County Over. | 02:33:34 | |
| And the overhead includes that we have at least a half a person doing the fuel maintenance for us and of course there's the | 02:33:36 | |
| maintenance of the capital involved in buying fueling stations, repairing them and and replacing them. | 02:33:42 | |
| And that evening sense covers that. And so when we build control Basin, you know Unified School District, it would include, but we | 02:33:49 | |
| were invoiced by the vendor plus the $0.18 overhead cost on the part of Gila County and we do that with everyone. | 02:33:57 | |
| And our fueling stations are normally have a better availability and you would and you would get commercially in some places | 02:34:05 | |
| they're open basically around the clock. In other places they're they're more limited hours, but they're open. They would be open | 02:34:13 | |
| to the school that needed an emergency basis as well. So with that I would like to ask your, your approval. | 02:34:21 | |
| Of this IGA with Council Basin Unified School District. | 02:34:30 | |
| Thank you, Homero Supervisor Humphrey. | 02:34:35 | |
| Did we have an agreement with them in the past on fuel? We have had, haven't we? Yes, the first agreement was in 2004, right. OK, | 02:34:40 | |
| Yeah, that that's fine. So this isn't something we're adding. We're just kind of upgrading it going forward with. | 02:34:47 | |
| OK. Appreciate that very much. Thank you, Supervisor. I'm good. OK, thank you, Merrill. With that, I'll call for a motion. Mr. | 02:34:56 | |
| Chair, I'd. | 02:35:00 | |
| Make the motion to approve Intergovernmental Agreement number 100723. The Tunnel Basin School District #33 is presented. | 02:35:05 | |
| I'll second have a motion and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye, aye. Thank you. Romero Item N 4 N Information | 02:35:15 | |
| Discussion Action to approve amendment number one to professional services Contract number 072622 with Steven P Smith. | 02:35:24 | |
| PE to increase the contract by $20,000 or total contract amount of $259,200 and extend the contract end date to December 31st, | 02:35:34 | |
| 2023 for solid waste management services. | 02:35:42 | |
| Good afternoon. | 02:35:50 | |
| Good afternoon and Chairman, Stephen Christensen and supervisors. This item is to amend our professional services. | 02:35:52 | |
| Or engineering services for the Gila County landfills last year on December 6. | 02:36:00 | |
| A contract was awarded to Stephen Smith that includes routine monitoring and reporting for both landfills, the Russell Bush | 02:36:06 | |
| Landfill and the Buckhead Dental Landfill. | 02:36:10 | |
| County landfills required registered engineers for monitoring and reporting projects, monitoring, reporting and project oversight. | 02:36:15 | |
| The original amount of Steven Smith's contract was $239,000. | 02:36:21 | |
| Which included regular routine groundwater. | 02:36:29 | |
| Monitoring, methane monitoring and several components of the Russell Gold substantial expansion cell. | 02:36:32 | |
| The contract cover pre construction, field activities, construction oversight, drainage and CQA reports and ultimately. | 02:36:39 | |
| The approval from ADEQ, the original construction for the Cell 3A expansion, was planned to be completed in 100. | 02:36:49 | |
| And I'm sure I sound like a repeating record. The project underwent 2 design changes and 100 year rainstorm and the expansion | 02:36:58 | |
| project began January 2023 and 100 days from that was May 10th 2023. | 02:37:05 | |
| Healy County received a DQ approval on Cell 3A on November 16th that was about. | 02:37:13 | |
| 6 1/2 months later and during the project the engineering staff required. | 02:37:21 | |
| Was required on site activities. They were reviewing project material like. | 02:37:27 | |
| Protective cover and liners rip wrap and. | 02:37:33 | |
| The they had to review several preliminary aspects and then the final as built. | 02:37:39 | |
| And so. | 02:37:44 | |
| This $20,000 extra is for. | 02:37:48 | |
| That time between May 5th or May 10th to the actual AB crew approval of Cell 3A on November 16th, we would increase the contract | 02:37:53 | |
| by $20,000 and the total contract would be 259,000 and 201. Of the things I wanted to point out is that our engineering team, they | 02:38:01 | |
| sent the final CQA reports and final as built ADQ on November 13th. | 02:38:10 | |
| And it took 80 Q 3 days to. | 02:38:18 | |
| The the expansion cell 3A and and I think that was absolutely remarkable so. | 02:38:23 | |
| To sum up, actually, I kind of already summed up that the original contract was 239 and we're going to increase it by 2000 for | 02:38:33 | |
| additional oversight for the Russell Gulch 3A project. | 02:38:38 | |
| And that's all. Sorry. | 02:38:45 | |
| That's all. Yeah. Well, actually. | 02:38:48 | |
| We're gonna, I don't know how I got a little nervous. I think I've been talking about the landfill a little bit too much lately. | 02:38:53 | |
| But also Steven Smith's contract has a three has three one year renewal options for routine amount landfill groundwater and | 02:39:00 | |
| methane monitoring for both heave county landfills and we plan to be back in January for a contract renewal. | 02:39:07 | |
| And there's a few things planned for next year. So we have the Buckhead Mesa landfill expansion that's going to, we have to do a | 02:39:15 | |
| feasibility study as well as upon remediation in Buckhead Mesa and a fill sequence plan for both van. | 02:39:23 | |
| And those will be added to the contract before we come back in January. And so the department is really just hoping to finish up | 02:39:32 | |
| the Russell 3A expansion project and then move forward with the next project for last for next year. And the by increasing the | 02:39:40 | |
| date to January or to December 31st opposed to December 6th which is tomorrow, it'll give our engineers enough time to get us all | 02:39:48 | |
| of their invoicing back to us and we can get them paid correctly on this contract before we move on so. | 02:39:56 | |
| OK, great. Thanks, Melanie. Supervisor Humphrey. | 02:40:04 | |
| Yeah. The landfills are yours to operate. So I don't think you can talk about them too much. Thank you very much for, for your | 02:40:08 | |
| interest and thank you very much for all that you've been able to accomplish and also hatch off. Thank you very much for great | 02:40:13 | |
| ribbon cutting. | 02:40:17 | |
| We did a great job of arranging that as well. So thank you very much, Mr. Chair, I have no questions. | 02:40:23 | |
| Supervisor, client. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Good job, Melanie, and good job on that Ruben Kelly. That's good. Thank you. Yeah, very | 02:40:30 | |
| good. With that, I'll call for a motion. Mr. Chair, I move to approve amendment number one to professional services contract | 02:40:36 | |
| number 072622 with Stephen B. | 02:40:41 | |
| PE to increase the contract by $20,000 as presented. | 02:40:47 | |
| And I'll second that have a motion and a second to approve all those in favor, say aye, aye, Aye. Thanks Melanie. Thank you. Item | 02:40:55 | |
| 4 O information discussion action to approve economic development agreement number 112123 between Healing County and the Miami. | 02:41:03 | |
| Genesis Economic Development Board in the amount of $2000 to support the small town Christmas event to be held on December 16th | 02:41:13 | |
| 2023 which the board is determined to be for the benefit of the public. Supervisor Humphrey yeah Mr. Chair they they do a great | 02:41:20 | |
| job and I've attended this in the past and and every child that shows up got a book one year and they do nice little things so you | 02:41:28 | |
| know it it it's not much educational but all of the children that do show up. | 02:41:36 | |
| Do get something out of it. It's a Christmas spirit. It's doing something for the for the town and I think it's a I think it's | 02:41:44 | |
| money well spent. | 02:41:48 | |
| A supervisor quarrel. It's a good thing. Yeah, I agree. So with that, Ali, I will. | 02:41:54 | |
| Entertain. | 02:42:01 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve Economic Development Agreement number 112123 with Miami Genesis Economic Development | 02:42:02 | |
| Board. | 02:42:07 | |
| In the amount of $2000, which the board is determined to be for the benefit of the public. Mr. Chair, I'll second that. OK, we do | 02:42:12 | |
| have a motion and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye, aye. | 02:42:18 | |
| Thank you. And moving on to item 5, which is our consent agenda item. | 02:42:25 | |
| List is anyone supervisor Humphrey, would you? | 02:42:31 | |
| Care to remove any items off of the consent agenda item and discuss them separately? I do not. Thank you, Supervisor Klein. I'll | 02:42:35 | |
| ask you the same question. | 02:42:39 | |
| And I'm good as well. I did want to point out though, that we have a couple of appointments buried in the consent agenda and I | 02:42:45 | |
| appreciate our volunteers. | 02:42:49 | |
| Northern Gila County Range Commission. We have a couple new appointments there. That's really great. | 02:42:54 | |
| Thank you for those that have been serving here County Cooperative Extension. We have a couple more for that. Thank you for | 02:43:01 | |
| serving on that. So with that, I will call for motion. | 02:43:05 | |
| Is it mine? I think so. I guess I know. OK, it's mine, Mr. Chair. I make a motion. | 02:43:13 | |
| To approve consent to giant agenda items 5A through 5I and I'll second it. We have a motion and a second to approve the consent | 02:43:21 | |
| agenda items. All those in favor say aye. | 02:43:28 | |
| OK, moving on call to the public. | 02:43:36 | |
| Number six, at anytime, the public will have the opportunity to speak before the board. No action can be taken on any of the | 02:43:39 | |
| comments. James, are you? | 02:43:45 | |
| Making a motion. | 02:43:51 | |
| Anything. | 02:43:53 | |
| Just you're good. OK. Sorry, sorry. We've all been sitting a long time. I I get it. I get it. OK. So is there anyone here in Globe | 02:43:55 | |
| that wishes to speak to the board on the on this item? | 02:44:02 | |
| On the public call to the public Cassandra. | 02:44:10 | |
| No, Lisa, do we have someone? | 02:44:14 | |
| Yes, I have one person on two different subjects. OK, Please come forward. | 02:44:16 | |
| And state your. | 02:44:22 | |
| Please try and hold your comments. | 02:44:29 | |
| 3 minutes per topic or less please. | 02:44:32 | |
| All right. Thank you. Angela Godak, 214 N Mountain View Rd. Basically Star Valley, I guess you could say. Good morning. Afternoon. | 02:44:36 | |
| Thank you for hearing our concerns in Hughes County. Appreciate that, Board of Supervisors. | 02:44:44 | |
| First thing real short is Round Valley. People were here a while ago and it's something I've been concerned about for them. I | 02:44:53 | |
| talked to some of them. Some of them didn't even know about a raw sewage issue that's coming in and supposedly coming out of the | 02:45:00 | |
| South end of the reservation. I have seen it. I've seen pictures of it slowing down a stream. I have not seen the tank that it's | 02:45:07 | |
| dumping into, but I heard there is. | 02:45:14 | |
| Feces floating at the top of that. I don't know what's been done about that. I saw this about five months ago. | 02:45:22 | |
| And I heard there was a little something being done with EPA, but I it was it was soon dropped. So I just want to, I let them know | 02:45:30 | |
| about it and I'm just saying that you'll probably hear more about this in the future. So anyway that's all I need to say about | 02:45:36 | |
| that. OK. | 02:45:42 | |
| My second item is. | 02:45:49 | |
| I'm representing Mahina County Election Integrity Group. We are active. | 02:45:52 | |
| We are growing. | 02:45:57 | |
| And our main concern is that we want to ensure that the voter rolls are clean, that the that the process is transparent and that | 02:45:59 | |
| we have. | 02:46:05 | |
| Every legal vote counted when election times come about. | 02:46:12 | |
| We have just started an extensive. | 02:46:17 | |
| Canvas of the homes in Payson. It will soon start in Globe also and the other parts of the county. | 02:46:22 | |
| Just last week we went out two days. We went to probably 30 homes, but a lot of those people weren't home. So out of approximately | 02:46:31 | |
| 20 voters that we contacted, we showed anomalies in about one out of four of them. | 02:46:40 | |
| There were concerned people in those homes. | 02:46:49 | |
| We had three glaring problems that could could be considered illegal. | 02:46:52 | |
| And then one more that voted showed to be voting in the voter rolls in in the 2018 and 2020 general election. | 02:47:00 | |
| That person, there's a problem there because that person belonged to a religious group for over 50 years that does not allow | 02:47:12 | |
| voting. | 02:47:17 | |
| Also, that person died in 2015, according to their family member, and they voted in in 2018 and 2020. There's a problem. | 02:47:22 | |
| Again, we're just wanting to make sure our voter rolls are cleaned up. There's no. | 02:47:36 | |
| No tendency for a fraud to occur. | 02:47:42 | |
| We just we are canvassing and doing this work. We should not have to be the ones that prove that these voter rolls have some | 02:47:47 | |
| problems, but we're doing it OK. But we will be holding the department's feet to the fire. Who should be responsible for making | 02:47:53 | |
| sure that these things are not happening. So anyway, that's all I needed. I just want to give you a little soups of thought for | 02:47:59 | |
| your Christmas vacation. | 02:48:05 | |
| I hope you have a wonderful Merry Christmas. And we also wish you a very happy New Year. And we'll see you when the meetings start | 02:48:13 | |
| up again. Thank you very much. God bless. Thank you, Angela. | 02:48:18 | |
| All right. And now we're to the portion of the meeting where. | 02:48:25 | |
| We can. | 02:48:30 | |
| We can comment against criticism and I was just wondering if there was written proof about the person. | 02:48:31 | |
| Whom passed and voted in Haver County. | 02:48:38 | |
| We are waiting for an affidavit from that family member if the the person is in California and we are going to obtain an affidavit | 02:48:44 | |
| from that person. | 02:48:50 | |
| Who is the daughter of the person who died? OK, yeah. I appreciate it because we can comment to criticism. And that's criticism. | 02:48:57 | |
| And if I'm gonna get criticized, it's not that we may not need to do something, but I want to see something in. Right. Thank you. | 02:49:04 | |
| OK. Thank you. | 02:49:12 | |
| Thank you, supervisor, Supervisor Klein, do you have any? | 02:49:15 | |
| Thing you'd like to. | 02:49:17 | |
| If I can Jessica, I want to ask her about the sewage deal. | 02:49:19 | |
| That's in our my district. I need to. | 02:49:23 | |
| Chairman, member, supervisors, you can. You just can't have a discussion. Yeah. Angela, can you leave Lisa your phone number and | 02:49:27 | |
| I'll get ahold of you. | 02:49:31 | |
| Thank you. | 02:49:35 | |
| OK, perfect. Thanks. Thank you. | 02:49:38 | |
| OK. | 02:49:42 | |
| And I don't have any further comments on that. We'll just go to item number 7 where we open up. | 02:49:44 | |
| To the Board of Supervisors and County Manager to give a brief summary of current events. I'll turn it over to James first. | 02:49:52 | |
| Mr. Chairman, I have a few things chair members or a couple things today. One, we had a lengthy discussion with a Cooperative | 02:50:00 | |
| Extension. Mr. Valley has found a solution for that. It'll be coming approval for funding for the property extension in January. | 02:50:06 | |
| So wanted. | 02:50:12 | |
| Let you know and be aware of that, that we are moving forward. | 02:50:18 | |
| Want to thank Mary and Heatherly. Miss Heatherly is filling in with the clerk of the boards department and appreciate her | 02:50:22 | |
| sacrifice and. | 02:50:27 | |
| I know she's retired, but she's come and help us and since she's here for me, thank you. Thank you for what you do. | 02:50:33 | |
| I just wanted to say that I attended. | 02:50:40 | |
| Russell Gulch Ribbon. | 02:50:43 | |
| And justice, 3 words impressive and thank you. | 02:50:45 | |
| To both Mr. Baylor and Miss Mendez. | 02:50:54 | |
| And I wanted to recognize supervisor client. | 02:50:59 | |
| Sir Roger Klein has been from the Coalition of Arizona, New Mexico Counties has recognized Supervisor Woody Klein as the. | 02:51:04 | |
| Arizona Supervisor of the Year for 2022 The. | 02:51:12 | |
| Or recognize the county supervisor that has gone above and beyond supporting efforts in the public lands arena. | 02:51:18 | |
| And acting as an advocate for counties, ranchers and farmers and citizens as we navigate continued changes with the federal | 02:51:25 | |
| government and numerous federal agencies. | 02:51:31 | |
| So if I could. | 02:51:38 | |
| I I'm not an official president, Senator. I don't represent the coalition, but. | 02:51:40 | |
| Thank you. | 02:51:46 | |
| Thank you so much. | 02:51:49 | |
| Yeah. | 02:51:56 | |
| Can you see it, Kathy and you closer. What's that? You see that far? You need closer? | 02:51:57 | |
| OK. | 02:52:03 | |
| Thank you all. | 02:52:10 | |
| Thank you supervised client for representing. | 02:52:12 | |
| And finally, just want to wish everyone happy holidays and thank you to he was a board and all county staff and everyone involved | 02:52:17 | |
| here county that the best and merriest of happy holidays for each of us. Thank you. Thank you James. Supervisor Humphrey. Yeah. | 02:52:25 | |
| First of all I would like very much to welcome Terry links back. | 02:52:32 | |
| Umm to my being my assistant. We we've worked together over five years and she took a little leave but I'm very happy that she is | 02:52:40 | |
| back to help me with the with the things we do to help the the the people of Hila County. So thank you very much for for sitting | 02:52:48 | |
| back in and. | 02:52:56 | |
| Helping me fight this fight that we do. So thank you very much. | 02:53:04 | |
| I attended the Russell Gulch Landfill ribbon cutting. What a what a great job of staff cleaning up the match that we had and being | 02:53:09 | |
| able to go forward all the way and the forward thinking to 2032. | 02:53:17 | |
| That that's that's a great thing. | 02:53:26 | |
| Attended a APS Energy update meeting at the Bullion Plaza. | 02:53:29 | |
| I will. I will hold the Tunnel Basin public meeting this evening at 5:00. I'll hold the Roosevelt community meeting Monday the | 02:53:36 | |
| 11th. | 02:53:41 | |
| At 1:00 and that will be at the Baptist Church on the top of the hill. I'll be on KQSS radio 6:00 PM on Monday the 11th. | 02:53:48 | |
| And I'll hold a Guy Sela community meeting on Saturday, December 16th at 9:00 AM at the Guysila Community Center. | 02:54:00 | |
| And I would like. | 02:54:10 | |
| Throw a deal out there that I was reading the patient paper and they they were talking about Supervisor Klein being a Republican | 02:54:13 | |
| Republican, and they named me as a Democrat. They are very, very wrong in that I've been a Republican all my life. | 02:54:22 | |
| And so I don't appreciate them at all for for throwing that in there for whatever reason they did. | 02:54:31 | |
| And so other than that, Mr. Chair, I have nothing else. | 02:54:42 | |
| Thank you supervisor. I did notice. | 02:54:46 | |
| And was a bit shocked by it. | 02:54:49 | |
| Umm, I mean, there's bad things, you people. That's the worst. | 02:54:53 | |
| Supervisor Klein. | 02:55:00 | |
| Oh, sorry about that, Tim. Hopefully they're lined out now. I'm not even sure how they come up. I don't know why you should be | 02:55:03 | |
| apologizing for the paper, but you know. | 02:55:07 | |
| Especially since we both. I think when we got on the board, it was the first time all three sitting supervisors were Republicans. | 02:55:13 | |
| In the history of Heila County, yeah, they know that for the reason behind. Oh yeah. | 02:55:22 | |
| To me, not accidental. | 02:55:29 | |
| Not not needed. | 02:55:31 | |
| So anyway, I I was at the ribbon cutting ceremony at the landfill. Literally get this the project like that come to an end and and | 02:55:34 | |
| Homero and Melanie and and all the departments have done an awesome job in that putting that together and. | 02:55:41 | |
| Now they're tuned up we can get on with Buckhead. Mesa do it again here pretty quick so so that's good but they did an awesome job | 02:55:49 | |
| really good turn out kind of a cold day for Globe up there that day but but it was really nice to see that. | 02:55:56 | |
| And other than that? | 02:56:03 | |
| I don't believe I had anything else, and after today I think my Decembers tend. | 02:56:07 | |
| Open for the rest of the month. | 02:56:13 | |
| I'm good. OK. Thank you, supervisor. | 02:56:16 | |
| Of course I was at the I was honored to be at the landfill ribbon as well. Was a little chilly, but it it's just so great to see a | 02:56:20 | |
| project come together. | 02:56:25 | |
| I I really appreciate all of the people that are leaders in our county, all of the workers that we have. | 02:56:31 | |
| They all work well together. I mean, I'm just so proud of Gila County. | 02:56:40 | |
| I just think we can boast as one of the best, if not the best county in Arizona in many, many ways. And so I appreciate all of | 02:56:44 | |
| that. Our next meeting actually is January 2nd, if you didn't know. So we're off for the rest of the year as far as meetings go. | 02:56:53 | |
| So I want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. Just enjoy the holiday time, take time to enjoy it. It comes | 02:57:03 | |
| and goes so quickly. | 02:57:09 | |
| So if there's nothing else, gentlemen, I will adjourn. | 02:57:15 | |
| Thank you. | 02:57:19 |