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A. Recognition of Gila County employees who have been employed for 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, and 40 years as of 2023. (Erica Raymond)   3. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. (Motion to recess as the Gila County Board of Supervisors and convene as the Gila County Flood Control District Board of Directors.)  Information/Discussion/Action to approve the amended Gila County Floodplain Management Ordinance. (Darde deRoulhac) (Motion to adjourn as the Gila County Flood Control District Board of Directors and reconvene as the Board of Supervisors.)   4.REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:
A. Information/Discussion/Action to receive a presentation by the Globe-Miami Chamber of Commerce (Chamber), and to approve or not approve paying the invoice submitted by the Chamber for 2024 in the amount of $10,250, which is $250 over the amount budgeted by the Board of Supervisors for FY 2024. (Maryn Belling)
B. Information/Discussion/Action to authorize the advertisement of Request for Proposals No. 011224 - Cost Allocation Plan Services and CFR (Federal) Cost Allocation Plan Services. (Maryn Belling)
C. Information/Discussion/Action to approve the use of the State of Arizona Contract No. CTR059886 for the purchase of 16 laptop computers and 41 desktop computers from MicroAge in the amount of $81,952.50 as part of the IT Department's computer replacement plan for FY24. (Carrie Bartling)
D. Information/Discussion/Action to authorize an online public auction through Public Surplus on March 29, 2024, to sell surplus or obsolete County vehicles and equipment after the notice of the auction has been published in the Arizona Silver Belt and the Payson Roundup newspapers thirty days before the auction date. (Maryn Belling/ Mark Highstreet)
E. Information/Discussion/Action, to approve, by unanimous consent of the Board and without a public auction, Intergovernmental Agreement No. 02162024 with the Superior Police Department, which authorizes the sale of three County vehicles for a total amount of $750, of which these vehicles have been identified as surplus or obsolete County equipment. (Maryn Belling/Mark Highstreet)
F. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Amendment No. 1 to a Funding Agreement (Contract No. 543-23) between the Arizona Department of Housing and the Gila County Public Health and Community Services Department to extend the contract to June 30, 2024, and increase the contract by an additional $63,190.99 for a total contract amount of $189,572.97 of Housing Trust Funds. (Joshua Beck)
5.CONSENT AGENDA ACTION ITEMS: (Any matter on the Consent Agenda will be removed from the Consent Agenda and discussed and voted upon as a regular agenda item upon the request of any member of the Board of Supervisors.)   A. Approval of Amendment No. 3 to Professional Services Contract No. 072120 with Policy Development Group to extend the term of the contract for one additional year, from January 5, 2024, to January 4, 2025, in a not-to-exceed amount of $60,000 for professional lobbyist services.   B. Approval of Amendment No. 2 to Contract No. RFGA2022-002-02 with the Arizona Department of Health Services' Bureau of Women's and Children's Health in the amount of $50,000.01 to continue the Youth Councils in Gila County until January 27, 2027.     C. Adoption of an Order designating polling places, the appointment of poll workers, and election board workers for the purpose of conducting the March 19, 2024, Presidential Preference Election.    D. Approval of finance reports/demands/transfers for the reporting period of January 1, 2024, through January 31, 2024.   E. Approval of the Board of Supervisors' February 6, 2024, meeting minutes.
6. CALL TO THE PUBLIC:   A call to the public is held for public benefit to allow individuals to address the Board of Supervisors on any issue within the jurisdiction of the Board of Supervisors. Board members may not discuss items that are not specifically identified on the agenda. Therefore, pursuant to Arizona Revised Statute § 38-431.01(H), at the conclusion of an open call to the public, individual members of the Board of Supervisors may respond to criticism made by those who have addressed the Board, may ask staff to review a matter or may ask that a matter be put on a future agenda for further discussion and decision at a future date.
7. At any time during this meeting pursuant to A.R.S. § 38-431.02(K), members of the Board of Supervisors and the County Manager may present a brief summary of current events.  No action may be taken on the information presented.
8. WORK SESSION ITEMS:   A. Information/Discussion regarding the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat's draft policy - Cost Schedule and Fees. (Joseph Dickison)      IF SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS ARE NEEDED, PLEASE CONTACT THE RECEPTIONIST AT (928) 425-3231 AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE TO ARRANGE THE ACCOMMODATIONS. FOR TTY, PLEASE DIAL 7-1-1 TO REACH THE ARIZONA RELAY SERVICE AND ASK THE OPERATOR TO CONNECT YOU TO (928) 425-3231. THE BOARD MAY VOTE TO HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF OBTAINING LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE BOARD’S ATTORNEY ON ANY MATTER LISTED ON THE AGENDA PURSUANT TO A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3). THE ORDER OR DELETION OF ANY ITEM ON THIS AGENDA IS SUBJECT TO MODIFICATION AT THE MEETING.
Everyone, It's just about 9:00. Ten o'clock. 00:00:02
It'd be a good meeting. 00:00:07
Tuesday, February 20th, I'd like to call this meeting to order, and if you would, let's all stand for the pledge. Marian is going 00:00:09
to offer the pledge and then Nick Montague is going to offer our prayer. 00:00:15
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, 00:00:23
indivisible, with liberty and justice. 00:00:30
For. 00:00:36
Dearly father. 00:00:42
We're thankful for a Board of Supervisors to be able to meet, and we're thankful for the decisions they're able to make. And we. 00:00:44
Are thankful for the county employees who spent so much time helping. 00:00:51
Citizens Field County and we ask the. 00:00:56
Help her spirit to be with them. They won't make the best choices that. 00:00:59
And say these things the name Jesus Christ, Amen. 00:01:03
He's be. 00:01:07
OK, so. 00:01:08
Our first presentation. 00:01:12
Is with Erica Raymond, so it's item 2. 00:01:16
A recognition of Gila County employ. 00:01:23
Who have been employed for 5101520253035 and 40 years. 00:01:26
That's a long time to be with the county. So Erica, just guide us through this and we'll we want to take some pictures and 00:01:34
recognize our employees for all that they do. 00:01:39
So if you all don't mind coming. 00:01:45
In front. As mentioned, this is a nomination or this is recognition of those employees who've been employed in 2023. 00:01:48
We are asking that you all hang out a moment just for a group photo afterwards. 00:01:59
We do have some light refreshments and we are asking that pause be held until the end. 00:02:05
And with no further ado, we'll get started. 00:02:12
So for our five years with the county, we have Ryan Alcorn. 00:02:15
Jamie Lynn Anderson. 00:02:22
Stephen Armstrong. 00:02:25
Bianca. 00:02:28
And if you would like to come up and get your item and party, something like that. 00:02:31
Eric Avalos. 00:02:37
Marin Bell. 00:02:44
Ashley. 00:02:47
Candice. 00:02:51
And we'll take a group photo outside. That way you also. 00:02:59
Apologize. I am Candice car. 00:03:03
Melissa Cervant. 00:03:08
Kenneth. 00:03:10
Stacy Espin. 00:03:13
Daniel. 00:03:16
Justin Gillesp. 00:03:19
Megan Holly. 00:03:22
Katie. 00:03:25
Anna Marie Lo. 00:03:27
Lacey. 00:03:29
Dylan Mojica. 00:03:30
Terry Morrell. 00:03:33
Sorry, Anna Marie. 00:03:37
Then Lacey. 00:03:44
Kimberly O'Rourke. 00:03:59
Rebecca Phillips. 00:04:03
Randall Plum. 00:04:06
Destiny Ro. 00:04:09
Dan Rodrigue. 00:04:14
Chevelle. 00:04:18
Charles Feline. 00:04:22
Amy, stay. 00:04:25
Karen Whiting. 00:04:31
And Paul Walter back. 00:04:33
And that concludes our five. 00:04:36
And next we have our 10 year employees. 00:04:45
We have Bradley Beauchamp. 00:04:49
Stephanie Ch. 00:04:52
Michael Hill. 00:04:58
Betty. 00:05:02
Daniel Irish. 00:05:05
Congratulations. 00:05:19
Daniel. 00:05:22
Steve McFarland. 00:05:25
Paul Miller. 00:05:29
Crystal Montana. 00:05:31
Janet Ostrom. 00:05:37
Patricia. 00:05:40
Patricia. 00:05:50
Brian. 00:05:53
Christian Rosales. 00:05:58
John Shepherd. 00:06:03
Jeff. 00:06:06
Rebecca Taylor. 00:06:09
Allison Tor. 00:06:11
And Scott Warren. And that concludes our ten years. 00:06:14
Next up we have 15 years with account. 00:06:20
We have Brenda Cov. 00:06:23
Lisa. 00:06:27
Brenda Co. 00:06:30
Congratulations. 00:06:35
Joel McDaniel. 00:06:42
Christopher McGrath. 00:06:46
4 nothing. 00:06:52
And Nancy Rutherford. 00:06:56
And that concludes our 15 years with. 00:06:58
With our twenty year employees we have Estelle Velarde. 00:07:08
Christine. 00:07:17
Athena. Good. 00:07:22
Rebecca Guard. 00:07:30
Yvette Hoffman. 00:07:37
Paula Horn. 00:07:40
Terry. 00:07:48
And Sarah White. 00:07:57
For 25 years we have Cynthia cost. 00:08:03
Roy Lean Muse. 00:08:15
And Lindy TR. 00:08:18
Moving on. 00:08:31
Moving to our 30 year employees, we have Amelia Baxley. 00:08:34
Julie Picardo home. 00:08:40
John Costanetta. 00:08:48
In 10 years. 00:08:51
I worked together and the last few. 00:09:31
Lastly, we have Tim. 00:09:43
For 35 years we have Sylvia Hernandez. 00:09:48
And for 40 years we have Jonelle Dreamer. 00:09:53
Anybody. 00:10:16
Feel like I'm on a red carpet. 00:10:32
And that does conclude our meeting. If you don't mind, we'll head out to the front for a group photo. 00:10:38
You look here. 00:10:51
Have a public hearing about item 3A. 00:10:56
Is that what this is for? Samantha, This is Greg Barsness who wants to speak. No, this will be at the end. 00:11:02
OK. Thank you. 00:11:09
All right. I need a motion to recess as the view accounting Board of Supervisors and convene as the Gila County Flood Control 00:11:11
District Board of Directors. So moved Mr. Chair. I'll second that. OK. Moved. And a second all those in favor say aye. Aye. 00:11:18
OK, so we're going to be talking information, discussion and action to approve the amended Gila County floodplain management 00:11:27
ordinance. 00:11:31
And guard, I think you. 00:11:35
Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, I'm glad to be here with you. 00:11:41
And glad to be presenting this. 00:11:45
Amendment to the Floodplain Management Ordinance. 7th amendment has been done since the original. 00:11:49
1986 / a few years. 00:11:55
We'll go through and. 00:11:59
Usually it's after. 00:12:02
The state or FEMA state does it on behalf of FEMA does it? 00:12:04
Basically an audit. 00:12:08
Way we manage the flood insurance program and the regulations that they require. 00:12:12
For us to have that available to our citizens. 00:12:19
And this time? 00:12:23
It's nothing. 00:12:26
We've got a few changes. 00:12:28
That they have requested. 00:12:31
And. 00:12:35
Saw a few things that we needed to. 00:12:39
Fix to make it. 00:12:42
For our residents to understand what they. 00:12:45
Needed to do. 00:12:49
So we did have a work session on this already. 00:12:51
Do you want me to kind of go over the significant changes again or let me ask the other gentleman, Supervisor Humphrey, do you 00:12:58
need a more detail? 00:13:02
I I've I've looked at this so I pretty much understand. 00:13:06
Where we're going and what we're doing, I guess my. 00:13:10
My main point is that those major changes are on our website. 00:13:15
So those of our constituents who would like to see the significant changes. 00:13:20
Can go see those, but for me, I I know of them and I've gone over them with you. So I think it would just be important for my 00:13:26
constituents to be able to see them. Other than that, I'm the chairman. 00:13:32
Mr. Klein. 00:13:40
So I remember when we had this discussion that came out in front of us, I kind of wanted. 00:13:42
More on that, but I probably can just sit down with you. 00:13:48
In person, garden and visit about some of it. I don't have that good of a feel for these changes on this. 00:13:52
And so I am going to need some more information, especially for my constituents, when I get in those meetings. 00:14:00
And I have those questions asked. Um. 00:14:05
You know, it's like I've said before, the floodplain issues is very, very important to Hena County. 00:14:09
And we all live in. 00:14:15
And so I want to make sure I have a good grasp of it. 00:14:18
I'd be glad to meet with you sometime. 00:14:23
We don't have, you know, today's pretty well packed and everything and so I think, I think by sitting down with you I can. 00:14:26
I can get a better feel for what we're going to do, whether I agree with it or not, I guess. 00:14:32
OK, one item from. 00:14:38
Work session that you brought. 00:14:41
The issue of variances issued for violations. 00:14:44
And I. 00:14:49
That with Mr. Dalton from the county attorney's office. 00:14:51
It looks like the way that the state redlined it is that. 00:14:56
Basically. 00:15:01
The Floodplain administrator the. 00:15:03
Is not. 00:15:06
Offer that as an as a solution to solving a violation they're trying supposed to try. 00:15:08
Compliance with the regulations. 00:15:17
However. 00:15:20
If you as the. 00:15:21
Receive a request. 00:15:23
If I receive a request to pass on to you, then that goes on. That does go on to you and there's no problem with whatever action 00:15:25
you want to take. 00:15:30
Well, that's a half a step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned. Guard and nothing against you as the Director of Flood 00:15:38
Pain and all that, but to me it's like when our constituents have a problem with something, it should be up to us to offer some 00:15:43
guidance if nothing else. 00:15:47
You know, within our statutory limits. That's that's the way I look at things. 00:15:52
So I guess, yeah. 00:15:57
Or just that little bit bitty step ahead of what we were when we last had this discussion. But. 00:16:00
You know the thing that is, if our constituents don't know that, how are they to learn that? How are they? How are they to figure 00:16:10
that out if you can't? 00:16:13
Give them some. 00:16:17
Idea. 00:16:20
Yeah. 00:16:22
It's in the ordinance and we can refer them to the ordinance. 00:16:26
We're not supposed to promote that. 00:16:30
I guess if they ask. 00:16:33
Well explain. 00:16:36
At least that's that's the desire. 00:16:38
The state had when they redlined that in. 00:16:43
Getting started. I think Mr. Dalton's got something he wants to tell me. 00:16:45
Help. So I'm reading. 00:16:50
Code of Federal Regulations. 00:16:54
44 CFR 60.6 about variances. 00:16:59
Hold variances and except. 00:17:03
And then? 00:17:06
The Federal Insurance Administrator may. 00:17:08
A community's findings or in this case, a county's findings. 00:17:12
Justifying the granting of variances. 00:17:16
And if that review indicates a pattern inconsistent with the objectives of sound floodplain management? 00:17:18
The federal insurance admin. 00:17:25
Administered and they take appropriate action. 00:17:27
Under and then he goes on to site more law about that action. So. 00:17:30
The thing about variances is that it's not really the same. 00:17:35
Directing someone to a provision. 00:17:39
Floodplain ordinance that would allow them to take a certain procedure. Variances are a unique. 00:17:43
Kind of thing there. Waiver. 00:17:49
Given to somebody telling them they don't have to follow the law that everybody else has to follow. 00:17:51
And those. 00:17:57
Pretty dramatic kinds of things. 00:17:58
When the administrator or the legislative body of the county. 00:18:02
We're giving you a waiver. We have an ordinance and everybody has to follow it. 00:18:07
You don't, that's. 00:18:11
And then with the Court of Federal Regulations is telling us is. 00:18:13
If the insurance administrator. 00:18:18
The granting of variances, and that's plural. That have to be a number of them. 00:18:21
Is inconsistent with the objectives of sound floodplain management. 00:18:26
They're going to. 00:18:32
I think that action is going to be negative action against the county, which is just going to have an effect on the insurance 00:18:34
rates. 00:18:37
That everybody's. 00:18:41
In Canada and so they don't like. 00:18:43
Too many of these that are inconsistent with what they think is is a sound floodplain management. 00:18:47
Or it's jeopardizing the insurance for everybody. 00:18:53
In the county and that's that's why it's a little different to say to. 00:18:57
Well here you need to read this section. The code understand what you do here. 00:19:01
Or in the alternative and say, you know, you can go to us as a legislature and we can give you a waiver. 00:19:06
Or you don't have to follow this law. 00:19:12
That's kind of an extraordinary. 00:19:15
Type of. 00:19:17
That each of you in the position of supervisor may or may not want to suggest to someone. 00:19:19
Or the flood plain administrator may not want to suggest that either because. 00:19:26
Not really following the procedures, here's how you can avoid. 00:19:31
Following the procedure, if you get a. 00:19:35
From us, and that's the reason why. 00:19:38
Treated so differently and. 00:19:40
Dog has run into this. 00:19:43
ADWR. 00:19:47
Game of it. They don't like us to to suggest that to people as our first line remedy. 00:19:48
To someone? Oh well, rather than find. 00:19:55
Face the hearing officer for violation. 00:19:59
You can just try to get the lawn out of flight. That's a way of getting around this. They don't want us to be suggesting that, but 00:20:02
the people whose first line, that's where this is coming from, so I understand that. 00:20:07
So, but you know and for the eight years we've set in these seats, I think we've only seen. 00:20:14
Proposal for a variance come up once when I came to the floodplain. 00:20:19
Issues with the new floodplain policy that's going into effect. You know, we could see it again somewhere along the way in the 00:20:23
next eight years or whatever. But what I'm saying is, is, is for us just to ignore that fact that that's an opportunity or or for 00:20:30
somebody to work a problem out And and when I think about floodplains, we have so much of it in, in Hina County. 00:20:37
You know, we have miles of flood. 00:20:46
Areas. A lot of people live in those areas. 00:20:49
Something could come up just from a simple issue that they need to help with. 00:20:52
I'm not. I'm not personally looking at it as a way of circumventing this. 00:20:58
The policies or anything like that, I'm looking at it more with a situation does arise. How can we work with that and if our 00:21:02
people don't know that, that's in the available. 00:21:07
I think, I think that's. 00:21:14
I don't think that's a good thing on our behalf, but that's where I'm coming from. If if it's because of an unusual situation with 00:21:16
the land was kind of a unique problem that. 00:21:21
The laws. 00:21:27
Work well with then. That's what that's intended to be for. 00:21:29
I agree. 00:21:34
I agree. But somewhere along the way somebody's got to have that ability to say, hey, look, talk to your district supervisor or 00:21:36
whatever, you know. 00:21:40
That's all I'm saying. 00:21:45
Right. And if that's the particular situation? 00:21:47
That would be appropriate, I agree, yeah. But there may no doubt about it. I'm not looking as variances away circumventing our 00:21:50
policies and statutes so. 00:21:54
Thank you. 00:22:00
Welcome, Dard. Also, I think when it comes to community development in general, the county should not be. 00:22:02
An enforcement agency is its. 00:22:10
Option, and I think that's what you're explaining. Let's work with our customer, let's work with the people, let's try and get 00:22:12
them in compliance if there's a very unique situation where. 00:22:18
We're going to need to do something then it comes before the board and that should always be. 00:22:23
Available to all the constituents in the county because. 00:22:29
Community development deals with that stuff all the time. There's always some tree or some roof line or some height or some hill 00:22:33
or whatever. 00:22:38
And you said in the work study on January 30th that much of what we're changing is actually going to be hopeful. 00:22:44
Helpful to the community. 00:22:50
And not, not necessarily more restrictive or. 00:22:52
Harsh. That's the goal, yes. 00:22:59
OK, thanks. Please continue if you. 00:23:02
OK, one other thing that Mister Dalton pointed out. 00:23:05
Is in section 3.9. 00:23:10
Which is a. 00:23:14
Actions that staff takes to. 00:23:16
Try to correct. 00:23:19
Violations. 00:23:21
There was a reference to. 00:23:26
Referring it to the board to order abatement and. 00:23:29
I think was a vestige from old times. 00:23:34
Really old times. Now we have a hearing officer, so. 00:23:37
We're going to take that out and. 00:23:41
Let him go to the hearing officer and they can always appeal to the board. 00:23:44
That takes you out of. 00:23:48
That gives you a little buffer there. 00:23:50
For them to try. 00:23:54
Correct the problem before. 00:23:56
Come to the board, ask for a variance of whatever they're going to do. 00:24:00
Mr. Chair, if I might, yes, please. 00:24:08
So we have several different things that goes to a hearing officer and whatnot like that. 00:24:10
But fact of the matter is we're the ones that's in. 00:24:17
You know, sitting in these chairs to correct problems and hear issues and things like that. So there again, me personally, I don't 00:24:20
know that that I like that, but. 00:24:24
I'm just making that well known. 00:24:29
And I can, Mr. Chair, clarify that as well. 00:24:33
So there's one process where. 00:24:38
The department issues the notice of violation. 00:24:42
To the landowner and then they go to a hearing officer. 00:24:45
And if they don't like that result, they appeal it to the board. 00:24:49
And then they can appeal it to the superior. 00:24:53
That process is in. 00:24:56
The other. 00:24:58
Was as an alternative, they could just fill it directly to or they could just. 00:25:00
Make this go directly to the board. 00:25:06
But no appeal after that to the superior report. 00:25:08
And one of the options was given that the board could offer a variance. 00:25:14
The problem with having those? 00:25:20
Available simultaneously. 00:25:23
They confuse. 00:25:25
The supervisors roles as a judicial body and as a legislative body. 00:25:28
As a judicial body. 00:25:34
As a complaint lodged against them and then they go to a hearing officer. 00:25:36
Hearing officer judges the situation determines whether or not they're in. 00:25:42
And that's appeal to you as the. 00:25:46
And you judge the hearing officers decision and decide whether that was correct. 00:25:49
That's a that's a judicial process. You're acting as. 00:25:53
Quasar judges that. 00:25:56
If they appeal directly to. 00:25:59
About a violation. 00:26:01
And ask for you to excuse it as a vari. 00:26:03
That's a legislative process because now you're not sitting as judges. 00:26:06
You're sitting as legislators who can change the very ordinance itself. 00:26:10
You can pass an amendment to the ordinance saying this ordinance does not apply to this. 00:26:15
And so you wave or erase violation through a legislative process. 00:26:21
And to give a landowner those two options. 00:26:26
In the same situation is very confusing. 00:26:31
And from a legal perspective, I think it's not a good idea to do that. They should go through a judicial process for the 00:26:35
violation. 00:26:38
And see how that goes. And they can feel it all the way through the Superior Court if they want to, even to the Supreme Court. 00:26:42
They want to if they want to pursue A. 00:26:48
Process, which is to ask you as the board to erase the law. 00:26:52
As to their. 00:26:57
That's a completely different. 00:26:58
And they're coming to you in a. 00:27:01
Proceeding asking for a variance saying. 00:27:04
I got a special situation here and I think I deserve a waiver from the ordinance itself. 00:27:08
I'd like to consider that as the county's legislature to amend the ordinance and change the law estimate. 00:27:12
And keep those things very separate. 00:27:18
Rather than mix. 00:27:20
The same options for the same. 00:27:23
That's why. 00:27:28
My further explanation board. 00:27:30
Thank you. 00:27:35
Thank you, explain a lot better than I could. 00:27:38
OK, the the only other thing that came out was that the the. 00:27:45
Definition of. 00:27:51
We had changed it to try. 00:27:53
Include the. 00:27:57
Of the word we're defining in the definition. 00:28:00
Where it was previous ordinance. 00:28:04
Mr. Dalton. 00:28:07
The body of law behind the word hardship and. 00:28:09
Remain in there because of all the other connotations and case law. 00:28:12
So we're proposing also to. 00:28:17
Go back to the way it was in the previous ordinance. Leave the word hardship in the. 00:28:22
So those are. 00:28:28
Things that we're recommending that the ordinance be adopted with these changes? No. 00:28:33
Would you like me to read this? 00:28:40
If you'd like to, that's short. 00:28:48
It is recommended that the Board adopt the proposed amendments to the Hewlett County Floodplain Management Ordinance with the 00:28:52
following changes. Replace the word difficulty with the word hardship in the definition of hardship in Section 2 point. 00:28:59
In Section 3 point. 00:29:06
Paragraph B replace the second sentence. 00:29:09
Quote Such information must be provided to the floodplain administrator within 30 days of such order. 00:29:12
Or End Quote. 00:29:21
And also delete all of section 3.9 B after the sentence. 00:29:24
After the 2nd. 00:29:29
OK. 00:29:32
OK, thank you. Is that OK with everybody? Because I don't know what section 3.9 V looks like. That makes two of us. 00:29:36
I could read that. 00:29:45
Section if you would. 00:29:47
Please. 00:29:50
OK, what? 00:30:14
Proposed. 00:30:16
Ordinance draft that was published. 00:30:20
Is the following. 00:30:22
3.9 B Order the property on order the owner of the property and on which the violation exists to provide whatever additional 00:30:25
information may be required for their determination. 00:30:32
Such as proof of compliance by means of an elevation certificate. 00:30:39
Appropriate flood proofing documentation. 00:30:43
The calculations to show no rise in the floodway. 00:30:47
Such information must be provided to the footprint administrator within 30 days of such order. 00:30:51
And she may submit a report to the Floodplain board within 20 days with the request. 00:30:57
That the flood plain board. 00:31:03
Order abatement of the violation. 00:31:05
At the next regularly scheduled public meeting with Floodplain Board. 00:31:08
Shall order the abatement of said violation. 00:31:12
Floor and we did have grant of variance in there and that was deleted prior to this draft. 00:31:17
So what we're basically saying. 00:31:26
We just provide information. 00:31:32
We ask them to provide information. 00:31:37
Proves their. 00:31:39
Not really in violation. 00:31:40
May appear. 00:31:43
OK. 00:31:45
Mr. Chair, so, so, Guardian. Most, most instances with the new revised maps that we're supposed to get through FEMA. 00:31:48
That should be readily available to you as a director too, right? Correct. 00:31:56
We don't always know how high their floor is though, until they have it. 00:32:02
But I I was under the impression that those surveys will be done prior to this, these maps revised and put together. 00:32:07
The, yeah, the study will be done and the maps will be based on that, on the study that's being done now. 00:32:16
And. 00:32:25
What the ordinance is saying is. 00:32:28
You know, we know the flood. 00:32:31
Issues we. 00:32:33
Necessarily how the building is constructed, What materials? Is it flood proof? 00:32:36
Is it elevated? 00:32:41
So on. 00:32:43
And sometimes. 00:32:45
Things are not real obvious and we think. 00:32:47
Is a violation mostly because it was built without permits, so we didn't see the plans. 00:32:50
And then we would just ask them as a means of rectifying the violation. 00:32:57
Or just show us that you are in compliance with these. 00:33:04
These requirements and ordinance. 00:33:08
That's part of working with. 00:33:11
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you. You have anything surpriser, Humphrey? I'm good. Thank you. 00:33:14
Is that all your presentation? 00:33:19
I'm here to answer any other questions you have, but I don't want to. 00:33:22
Delay it if you remember what we talked about in the work session. 00:33:27
It appears that we've asked all of our questions, so at this time, I will open it up to the public hearing portion. Is there 00:33:31
anyone here in the Globe facility that wishes to speak to this item? 00:33:38
No. Anyone in Payson, Lisa. 00:33:46
And Cassandra. 00:33:51
OK. Then I will close the public hearing portion and call for a motion. 00:33:53
Do we need to go back to the Board of Supervisors before we make a motion? 00:34:00
No. 00:34:06
Then I move to improve the Amendment Gila County Floodplain management ordinance. 00:34:08
I'll second. 00:34:15
OK, we have a motion and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye, aye. 00:34:17
I almost. 00:34:22
Nah, I. 00:34:24
Your post. Yeah. OK, so we have two to one supervisor client, the last minute 3 visions. 00:34:27
I'm sorry, Dart, does that motion include the last minute revisions that I gave to you? 00:34:35
Well, we didn't state that. So Jessica, you need to state that just for the record, go ahead and clarify the motion. 00:34:41
Supervisor, clarify that motion to include. 00:34:50
Recent changes suggest. 00:34:55
I didn't get that sheet of paper. Is there an ordinate number? 00:34:57
I make a motion. 00:35:15
To approve the amended Gila County floodplain management ordinance. 00:35:18
And also to include, it is recommended that oh to include. 00:35:27
Replace the word difficulty with the word hardship. 00:35:33
And the. 00:35:38
Of hardship in section 2.0. 00:35:40
In section 3.9 B, replace the second sentence with such information. 00:35:45
Must be provided in the in the floodplain administrator within 30 days of such ordinance or. 00:35:52
And as deleted as of section 3.9 B after the second sentence. 00:36:02
Are we good with that? 00:36:10
Now we're going to pass this. 00:36:13
Confused. 00:36:16
Bring that, we're going to begin. 00:36:19
So look at section 3.9 B. Replace the second sentence. 00:36:31
Such information must be provided in its Liberal administrator within 30 days of such order. 00:36:37
And also delete all of the section 3.9 B. 00:36:43
After the 2nd. 00:36:48
OK. 00:37:01
OK. Yeah, I don't have any. 00:37:10
Yeah. 00:37:15
It's changing with this advertising newspaper. 00:37:26
Please. 00:37:35
Advertise the changes to the newspaper. 00:37:39
Correct. And then after discussion with our County Attorney and we ate that ADWR and with the information that we received at one 00:37:42
of those work sessions about the work variants, we went back and introduced these changes to what was advertised in the newspaper. 00:37:50
OK. So these are changes that were advertised to the news. 00:37:58
What what Dark stepped up to ask for was a change to the ordinance that included what was advertised in the newspaper plus these 00:38:02
amendments to that that was advertised. And that's, and that's what we're asking for today by the way the the variance section. 00:38:12
Was there originally in the ordinance. It's one of eight sections in the ordinance is 4 pages long. The ordinance is about 40 00:38:21
pages. So in explaining a variance in our ordinance is 10% of the words that are used there. 00:38:29
What we did is we took out in abating A violation, we took out the word variance. 00:38:37
But in the Section 4 three section after left of direct but the front plane manager is supposed to do supposed to work out that 00:38:45
there is like ABCDE items work with the. 00:38:52
Ask for additional information, use the hearing officer, consult with the County Attorney, and then if all that fails, then 00:39:00
there's an option for a variance. 00:39:04
Or whatever. That section is referring to what the floodplain administrators supposed to do. So there's no mention of variance 00:39:09
there. But again, it's prominent in the ordinance. It's it's an entire section out to itself. 00:39:15
But I just wanted to clarify what that piece of paper that you're looking for. I'm clear on this, Mr. Chair. It's fine. 00:39:21
So the motion made was appropriate. OK, so legal counsel says the motion was appropriate. We have a motion, we have movement, we 00:39:29
have speeches. So we have a second. 00:39:35
We have a motion in the. 00:39:42
To again approve all those in favor, say aye, aye, aye, those opposed. 00:39:44
Supervisor Klein votes against. 00:39:51
Motion passes. 00:39:54
Thank you, darling. 00:39:55
Would have thought it would be so exciting. 00:39:57
I have. 00:39:59
OK, I will need now a motion to adjourn. 00:40:02
As the he. 00:40:06
Flood Control Direct District Board of Directors and reconvene as the. 00:40:08
Board of Supervisors. So move, Mr. Chair. 00:40:14
Motion in a second to approve that all ones in favor say aye. 00:40:19
OK, item 4. 00:40:25
Information, Discussion Action to receive a presentation by The Globe, Miami Chamber of Commerce. 00:40:28
And to approve or not approve paying the invoice submitted by the Chamber for 2024 in the amount of $10,250, which is $250 over 00:40:35
the amount budgeted by the Board of Supervisors for fiscal year 2024. Good morning, Marriage. Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good 00:40:42
morning, Supervisor Klein. Good morning, Supervisor Humphrey. This morning we have presenters from the Globe Miami Regional 00:40:50
Chamber of Commerce here to share a presentation with you. And then after the presentation, we can talk about the invoice. 00:40:58
OK. Thank you. 00:41:06
Come on up, please. Introduce yourself again, please. OK. Yes. Good morning, Mr. Chairman. 00:41:10
Members of the board, my name is Angel Reese and I am the director for the Global Miami Chamber of Commerce. 00:41:16
Thank you for having us today. We're looking forward to discussing our partnership with Gila County to create win win 00:41:22
opportunities. 00:41:26
Today I brought with me Mr. Phil Stewart. He is the owner of Stewart's Antique Milk in downtown Miami and he is also a chamber 00:41:30
board member. 00:41:34
He is going to elaborate more on how the Heila County funding is being utilized. 00:41:39
Thank you, Angel and good morning. The question has been asked, how does the Miami, excuse me, how does the Globe, Miami Regional 00:41:47
Chamber of Commerce use the funding provided by Gila County? 00:41:52
Let's get into it next slide. 00:41:58
We promote activities and events in Gila County using a variety of technologies. 00:42:03
If you look at the Chamber of Commerce website. 00:42:07
Next slide. 00:42:12
As you can see up there on this is a screenshot of the. 00:42:15
Landing page you have our logo and right below. 00:42:18
Dominantly displayed is a working hyperlink of the seal appealing. 00:42:22
So our users can go. 00:42:27
Click and go right to your website. 00:42:30
And then as you get further into. 00:42:34
The landing page again displayed as a working active. 00:42:37
Hyperlink directly to the county. 00:42:42
The Chamber of Commerce also utilizes Facebook, Instagram, and we're also researching other technologies such as YouTube. 00:42:46
Hulu and a few more options to further promote Gila County in the communities that the Chamber of Commerce interfaces with 00:42:53
directly. 00:42:57
Next slide. 00:43:03
Your funding helps Contin. 00:43:05
To drive these services that the Chamber provides. 00:43:08
I'm sure some of you on this board have been to the Chamber of Commerce. 00:43:11
I know some of the Gila County Supervisors area. 00:43:15
And the most recent speaker was US Senator Kyrsten Sine. 00:43:20
Was at our Chamber of Commer. 00:43:23
The Chamber of Commerce is a community rallying. 00:43:26
We're the prisons out there on the highway that people come. 00:43:29
And inquire about our area here in Gil. 00:43:33
Out of town visitors will stop by frequently wanting to know about. 00:43:37
What's happening here? Where can we go? What can we do? What can we see? 00:43:41
And we're happy to tell that story. 00:43:47
We're open six days a week and we do this with one full time staff. 00:43:49
And one part time staff. 00:43:54
So we're very leaning. 00:43:56
The Chamber of Commerce Foster's community outreach. 00:44:00
During the initial COVID COVID-19 outbreak. 00:44:03
The chamber was a rallying. 00:44:07
For the. 00:44:09
Collections and distribution hub of hygiene and cleaning supplies. 00:44:12
So with that said, I'll turn the presentation back over to Angel and she can continue. 00:44:16
So our community. So at the Chamber, we hold key events in our communities, which brings visitors to Hewlett County. 00:44:23
Just to name a couple, our Ann. 00:44:32
Or the Arizona Poppy Fest. It's an entire celebration of our puppies. 00:44:35
Every weekend there's something going on in Old Man. 00:44:41
Which so many people come to enjoy. 00:44:44
Apache G is an extremely popular cultural event. 00:44:47
That brings in people from all over the state, including our neighboring. 00:44:51
So the common denominator of our events is they bring in people in revenue to heal accountable. 00:44:56
So. 00:45:03
So to summarize this, if I could have the next slide please. 00:45:08
The Chamber of Commerce is very appreciative of all the support. 00:45:12
That Board of Supervisors have given our organization over the years. 00:45:17
We look forward to continue to work with you. 00:45:22
As our communities grow. 00:45:27
What we're asking you to do is please contin. 00:45:31
Help us help. 00:45:34
Make our communities thrive and become a key destination point in the state of Arizona. 00:45:37
We thank you for your time. 00:45:43
And if you have questions, we'd be glad to. 00:45:45
Thank you, Mr. Stewart, Supervisor Humphrey. 00:45:48
Yeah, you also do out of town events for Flyers and things like that, or promoting Gila County. 00:45:52
Yes, Sir. Yeah. So it's not just all on the Internet and stuff. You actually go to places and and and I knew that. That's why I 00:45:59
brought it up, because you didn't cover it, because sometimes we do great things but we don't tell great stories. So that's just, 00:46:05
that's just a feather in your hat as far as I'm concerned. It's going to other events to hand out Flyers and let people know in 00:46:10
person. 00:46:15
Of the promotion here. 00:46:21
That's all, Mr. Chair, and thank you, Supervisor Klein. So thank you for the hard work you guys do. And I am a really ordered 00:46:23
Chamber of Commerce. I I just really feel without the element being in the middle of everything that's going on, I I think we'd 00:46:28
lose. 00:46:32
There's a lot, so thank you for doing that. Thank you. 00:46:37
And yeah, I'll thank you too. So we have two very good Chambers of Commerce in Gila County rim country and you Miami Globe and and 00:46:40
we support both. 00:46:46
We're going to, we're going to talk about the finances here in a minute, but. 00:46:54
Oh, I thought I had a .0. Yes, Mr. Stewart, what was the business that you said? You? 00:46:58
My wife and I own Stewart's antique nook in downtown Miami. 00:47:03
That sounds like my kind of place, yeah. 00:47:08
So thank you for your presentation. 00:47:11
And Marin, you. 00:47:14
OK. 00:47:20
So we're here this morning in part because the presentation needed to be made and also because this year the. 00:47:30
The invoice? Typically, we budget $10,000 for Globe Miami Chamber of Commerce, $10,000 for rim country, the Chamber of Commerce. 00:47:39
And $5000 for Tonto Basin Chamber of Commerce. And this year, the invoice for Global Miami Chamber of Commerce came in at $10,250. 00:47:48
Finance doesn't have the capability to pay an invoice in excess of the budgeted amount. 00:47:57
To pay that, we would need your approval and then I believe the county Attorney's office has a question about. 00:48:07
Past agree. 00:48:15
And whether this is an economic development grant or if it's dues and services? 00:48:18
Chairman, members of the board, in the past this has been passed as a economic development grant where the board has determined 00:48:28
that it's for the benefit of the public. Here today it wasn't presented that way, but we would like to amend it so that it could 00:48:33
be an economic development grant. And so if you do find that it's for the benefit of the public, then you can go ahead and make 00:48:38
the motion. 00:48:44
Supervisor. 00:48:53
I have no questions other. 00:48:58
Mayor, thanks for bringing up Tunnel Basin because I was going to Mr. Chair, you said we had two. Great Chamber of Commerce's we 00:49:00
had three. 00:49:03
You know, just thank you for informing. I didn't. I didn't realize that. 00:49:07
In That's OK with my mind. So that's OK Only have three? Great. 00:49:12
Supervisor. 00:49:19
I think James May have something to say further before I say anything. 00:49:20
Go ahead. 00:49:26
I I I don't. I think it is for the benefit of the public that's that was always been my feelings towards this and I think that it 00:49:28
still is. So the only question I would have is, is where did the 250 come from? 00:49:36
We have an increase in. 00:49:44
We had an increase in our membership dues. 00:49:48
It was raised all around. I have a letter that we sent with the invoice. 00:49:50
That said that we were going to in 2020. 00:49:54
Is when we raise. OK, thank you. You know, it isn't much of an increase. I just curious it went from 3000 to 3000 to 50. So thank 00:49:57
you. 00:50:02
If I if I may have further point of clarification in reviewing the due structure and review. 00:50:09
Our expenses for the year is everybody here in this room can attest everything has inched its way up. 00:50:15
And so, reluctantly, we decided to take this course. Just because. 00:50:22
When we maintain the brick and. 00:50:28
Expenses go up, insurance, utilities, everything goes up and I'm sure I'm speaking to the choir here. 00:50:31
But I just did want to point that out. So thank you, thank you. Thank you both for. 00:50:37
James, did you have something to add? 00:50:42
I do, Mr. Chairman. OK And there is a board. 00:50:44
Which has been an economic development grant. Just some things to remember is. 00:50:48
There's a member sub dues for 3000. 00:50:54
That leaves either $7000 or $6750 that Gila County is supposed to receive a direct benefit. 00:50:57
From an Economic Journal Grant. 00:51:07
So what has been described? What happens with the Chamber of Commerce that there are events that are sponsored brings? 00:51:09
Activity people into the area. 00:51:17
Hopefully brings in excise tax. Those are considered by. 00:51:21
Case law that they are not direct benefits to the county cannot be considered as a direct benefit. 00:51:26
Chamber of Commerce. 00:51:34
Describing to us or letting us know what direct. 00:51:37
The County Rece. 00:51:41
From that. 00:51:44
6750 dollars, $7000, whatever it might be. 00:51:45
So something to consider. 00:51:50
It can be for the public. 00:51:53
But by case law, it still has to be a direct benefit account. 00:51:55
That makes sense. No? Mr. Chair, are you saying that direct benefit is not described today? 00:52:01
Or because I know what you're talking about, I'm not going to make that declaration. Whether it is not that's, that's up to your 00:52:08
discretion. I see. As to whether it is, I do. I do want to hand the Chamber of Commerce. 00:52:15
For credit that last Chamber of Commerce we had come in that they. 00:52:22
Who were the most significant? We were the major contributor to the Chamber of Commerce as a county, and yet the county was not 00:52:28
even mentioned on the website. 00:52:32
The club Miami Chamber of Commerce has has the. 00:52:37
Helena County prominently displayed. 00:52:40
As a partner. 00:52:44
Participant with Chamber of Commerce. So I'm very thrilled, very excited to see that actually that Hill County is considered a 00:52:47
partner with the Chamber of Commerce. 00:52:51
Just with an economic development grant, those are some of the things to make sure that we consider. 00:52:56
That we are getting a direct benefit. Direct benefits are. 00:53:05
Can be. 00:53:09
We we give money and I'm sorry, just to jump in, we did put the invoice up on the board just so everybody can see. 00:53:13
This is why we didn't present it as an economic development grant this morning. The invoice is broken out 3254 Diamond membership 00:53:20
and then $7000 in advertising. 00:53:26
Just in case you you needed. 00:53:33
Definition of what that direct benefit? 00:53:36
Can I ask one more question, Mr. Chairman? So I believe it's in the past, but it's always. 00:53:39
Better concern for me and just would wonder why there was a time that there was some turnover some change in the in the global 00:53:45
Miami Chamber Chamber of Commerce. 00:53:50
And Gold Miami Chamber of Commerce. The board voted. 00:53:55
Not support. 00:54:00
Discover he. 00:54:02
That they there is a spot of the of the five what was then 5 member board of the of Discovery Hill County. 00:54:04
The gold. 00:54:12
Or Chamber of Commerce board voted not to have a representative sit on the discovery of the county. 00:54:15
And I. 00:54:21
I said. 00:54:23
But there was a period of time that the the. 00:54:25
I've called Miami Chamber of. 00:54:29
Elected. 00:54:32
We support and don't care if I may James that this is in the past why we even bringing it up. 00:54:33
We're we're working on trying to figure out how it's a benefit and you're getting in the past that doesn't even belong anymore 00:54:39
because we do have someone who's on the board, I mean. 00:54:44
You can go backwards if you want to, but I don't think there's a time and place Mr. here. Thank you Mr. Klein, anymore to add. 00:54:50
I'm not sure. 00:54:57
No, I just make a statement that anytime in my opinion and I don't know how the law come to be or anything. 00:54:59
But it for me personally anytime we talk about Chamber of Commerce, the promoting of everything, we know that it's bringing in 00:55:06
revenue, we know that it's attracting people and people are being money is being spent. So that's that's just a comment for the 00:55:11
need. 00:55:17
That's to me just a no brainer. But I. 00:55:23
I don't know about the law, Jessica. 00:55:27
Well, I would suggest when we do make a motion that we would also include in it for the benefit of the public just to be. 00:55:31
And Mar. 00:55:39
Well, and James as well, I think that if we are going to vote to. 00:55:41
Funding with one chamber we should consider in the future then. 00:55:47
To reflect that with the other two as well, OK, we're not voting on that today. 00:55:52
Chairman, Members of the board. And so in previous discussions with you members, we did discuss what legally the direct benefit 00:55:59
means. 00:56:04
In prior economic development grants, what that looked like, the consideration that the county has accepted is that the nonprofit 00:56:11
organization or the other governmental entity is going to provide advertisement to the county. 00:56:18
It's up to your discretion if you believe that that is a direct benefit or not. If you want to get into the caveats and legalities 00:56:26
then I would recommend an executive session. 00:56:32
Either the other two supervisors believe we need an executive session at this point. 00:56:42
If you let. 00:56:47
I don't feel as if I need and neither do I, so with that I will call for a motion. 00:56:49
Yeah. And just just before I make a motion, I would like to say that by them sponsoring like Apache G Day and some of those 00:56:56
events. 00:57:00
If an accountant wants to sit down and figure out the sales tax of those multiple people in our motels, restaurants, downtown 00:57:05
buying gifts, then let them tell us that it's not a benefit that he Will County as far as I'm concerned. 00:57:12
As well as many other that you sponsor like the mining days and we can go to Poppy Fest and on and on. If somebody wants to sit 00:57:19
there and tally sales tax, I'd like them to tell me that it's not a benefit to you. 00:57:26
So anyway, with that said. 00:57:33
Mr. Chair, I move to approve paying the invoice submitted by the Chamber for physical year 2024 in the amount of $10,350 and Mr. 00:57:36
Charles second. 00:57:42
Would you like to include in your motion Mr. Humphrey and its benefit of the public? 00:57:50
As an. 00:57:57
Grant for the benefit of the public. 00:58:00
I'll second that one. OK. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor say aye, Aye. 00:58:05
Aye, aye, motion passes. Thank you. 00:58:10
Thank you. Thank you guys for being here. 00:58:14
OK, I'm gonna turn again item 4, the information discussion action to authorize the advertisement of requests for proposals number 00:58:18
011224, Cost Allocation Plan Services and. 00:58:24
CFR. Cost allocation plan services. 00:58:31
Good morning, Mr. Chair, Supervisor, Client, Supervisor Humphrey. The Finance Department has a cost allocation plan every year 00:58:36
that we are required to obtain in order to charge indirect costs. 00:58:43
To our federal and state grants. 00:58:51
Our current vendor is no longer offering this service. 00:58:53
We have. 00:58:59
Visited with various vendors that are available for property purchasing agreements. They are not taking new clients at this time, 00:59:00
so we do need to go out for proposals. 00:59:06
To make sure that we are in compliance with. 00:59:14
The Code of Federal Regulations. Be happy to answer any questions you have, supervisor. 00:59:18
Yeah, I have a lot of questions, but there's nothing we can do anything about. 00:59:27
No, Sir. OK. No, I'm good. We need to do this. We do good as well. 00:59:31
So with that, I'll call for motion. 00:59:37
Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to authorize the advertisement of request for proposals number 011224. 00:59:40
Mr. Jarrell, second motion and a second to approve those in favor. Say aye. Aye, Aye, aye. Thank you, Marin. Or we're moving along 00:59:49
now. Item 4C. Information discussion action to approve the. 00:59:55
Of the State of Arizona Contract number Ctr. 059886 for the purchase. 01:00:02
Is for the purchase of 16 laptop computers, 41 desktop computers from micro age in the amount of $81,952.50. 01:00:11
As part of the IT Department's computer replacement plan for fiscal year 2024. 01:00:21
Kelly, good morning, Chairman, Christensen and Board members. As part of our commitment to keeping the county technology up to 01:00:28
date, we've identified 16 laptops and 41 desktops that are due for replacement during the physical year 24. 01:00:34
We're proposing to use the state. 01:00:40
Ctr. 059886 to purchase these computers for microwave. The total cost for this upgrade is $81,952.50. The funding was. 01:00:42
Has been thoughtfully allocated from the capital budget which was already approved in the physical year 24 budget, if you have any 01:00:53
questions I feel. 01:00:56
Would be willing to answer that for you. Thank you Carrie Supervisor Humphrey. 01:01:00
Yeah. I guess my question is, what are we going to do with the computer and laptops that we're replacing? Are they going to go up 01:01:04
for auction? Do we trade them in? What? What do we do? 01:01:08
So the computers that we get back from that are out, out of date. We all we sometimes use them for the school district the the 01:01:12
school needs them for different projects and stuff and then the ones that are not usable we pull the hard drives and then 01:01:18
decommission them. 01:01:23
So we donate them. 01:01:29
Or throw them away, correct. 01:01:32
OK, and we're not going to get in trouble for donating. 01:01:34
County equipment not getting any funds for. 01:01:37
That's like a different thing. Here we have vehicles that were working with other governments. 01:01:46
That that is something that is loud, that we. 01:01:51
On occasion, question is asking. 01:01:54
Yes, chairman, members of the board. So the gift clause does not apply when it's another governmental entity, The school district 01:01:58
would apply to that. Well, I'm glad that someone's benefiting from them and that's why I was asking the question. 01:02:03
And so I fully am in compliance and and I think it's great that the schools are getting the computers that we can't do. 01:02:09
OK, Supervisor. 01:02:19
Oh, I think it's great. You know, if anybody else can use those, those old computers, that's great. Whatever else, we can recycle 01:02:21
them. 01:02:25
Fashion, whatever. So thank you, Carrie. Good job. Thank you, Carrie. With that, I'll call for motion. Mr. Chair, I move to 01:02:28
approve. 01:02:32
State Arizona Contract number Ctr. 059. 01:02:37
886 as presented, I'll second that Mr. Chair motion to approve and seconded all those in favor. Say aye. Aye, Aye. Thank you. 01:02:41
Item 4G Information Discussion Action to Authorize an Online Public Auction through Public Surplus on March 29th, 2024 Sell 01:02:52
surplus or Obsolete county. 01:02:57
And equipment after the notice of the auction has been published in the Arizona Silver Barrel and Pacing Roundup newspapers 30 01:03:03
days before the auction date. So actually we have Sergeant High Street up in Cleveland. I'll answer any questions, but I believe 01:03:09
Sergeant High Street is going to present to you. 01:03:15
Well, I think the other way around. So Marin, if you can just take off. 01:03:25
Sure, I'd be happy to. 01:03:30
We have a variety of vehicles that are eligible to be liquidated in this way. 01:03:33
And today, we would request the board's permission. There's a list of vehicles included in the agenda item here. 01:03:40
The Board of Supervisors pursuant to Arizona Revised statute 11251 nine. 01:03:49
Has the capacity to sell at public auction after 30 days previous notice. 01:03:57
Any property belonging to the county that the board deems unnecessary for use by the county. These vehicles are currently in the 01:04:01
impound yard. 01:04:06
Sergeant High Street has done all the background paperwork, make sure that all of these vehicles are they have clean titles, 01:04:12
they're able to be taken care of in this way and we would like to use the public surplus website. 01:04:20
To liquidate these items. We believe that that will increase the likelihood of having a successful auction and be able to reach 01:04:29
more constituents and be more time effective and resource effective for the county as a whole. 01:04:38
And I believe there's a bullet here. The 4th bullet does need to. 01:04:47
Change to show that this would be on March 29th, not March 20th, but you. 01:04:55
Your proposed motion is correct for March 29th. 01:05:03
And the way this would work is anybody who wanted to participate would set up an account with the public surplus. They would make 01:05:08
a. 01:05:12
So basically, like earnest money. 01:05:17
And then if they chose, if they were the successful bidder on something, that $150.00 would go toward that purchase. If they 01:05:20
didn't end up being a successful bidder on anything, they would get their $150.00 back. 01:05:27
Thank you, Mayor and Supervisor Humphrey. Any questions? 01:05:36
This one Where Where can these these vehicles be seen? 01:05:40
I mean, if you're going to have an online auction, I think there are people that would like to go see them prior to being on them. 01:05:45
So the online auction does require that we show various views of them. 01:05:51
They are at the Star Valley Impound Yard and. 01:05:57
Sergeant High Street, If people wanted to, could they make arrangements with you to go see them in person? 01:06:01
Sure. I think the best thing to do is on the website will probably put my cell phone number so we can allow access to these 01:06:07
vehicles. That way I can navigate through my schedule. 01:06:12
But they're currently being held and all of them are at 5310 E Highway 260. That's the Star Valley yard that we use for all these 01:06:17
vehicles. We did have these vehicles located all over county. This is one of many auctions that will likely have, given that we 01:06:23
have quite a bit. 01:06:29
But. 01:06:36
Having an instrument made it easy for me to process all the paperwork, but the public can reach out to me and I can make 01:06:37
arrangements with meeting them and show them the vehicle while we're on site. 01:06:42
OK. Yeah. Thank you. Because like I said, if I was going to bid on one, I'd like to go kick the tire to be sure what I was bidding 01:06:50
on. 01:06:54
You know, anyway, thank you and and you said in the advertisement you're going to give your cell phone numbers to someone to make 01:06:58
an appointment to go get tires. 01:07:02
Yes, Sir. That'll be probably the easiest way for us to navigate that. 01:07:07
OK, I hope you get lots of calls and and we do well with the object. 01:07:12
Sure. Thank you, Klein. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So Mayor, is there going to be a list coming out pretty quick to supervisors on 01:07:16
these vehicles or are we going to agenda item? 01:07:22
OK. OK. Right on. 01:07:28
And then each one also indicates why it's in county possession, such as evidence seizure. 01:07:31
And if it was related to a fund or if they are. 01:07:40
Surplus vehicles that have been inactivated from the fleet. 01:07:46
Where those service funds are so that as revenue comes in, it goes back to the original purchase source or the original work 01:07:50
source. 01:07:55
So I see that we're coming up on our next agenda item. There's going to be some of these vehicles going to another agent. 01:08:01
So with like the the reservations, the tribes I deal with every once in a while, they're looking for something specific or a 01:08:09
school district or whatever it is, fire district. 01:08:15
So if there's something on this list, that's one of these other entities are looking for. 01:08:21
What would be my protocol to pull that off and? 01:08:28
Change it to an agenda item. 01:08:32
That you could reach out to Sergeant High Street and let him know. We have had a couple instances where. 01:08:35
Other agencies have asked, and we've had to tell them, what a fair market value is and the process has stalled there. 01:08:42
Because they. 01:08:50
Want us to hand over keys and we can't do that. 01:08:52
Without. Without you all approving it, right? No, I get that. And I'm looking at this here. But when it comes to another 01:08:56
governmental agency, Jessica. 01:09:01
The statement you made a while ago is this. The gifting clause doesn't apply. 01:09:06
Correct. Chairman, member supervisors. You do have to have appropriate authority, so in this instance. 01:09:11
11-251, subsection 9 There is authority in there. By unanimous consent of the board, you guys could vote to not have an auction 01:09:19
and sell to another governmental entity like you do have the authority to do that. There is a caveat, however. Today you're making 01:09:26
the motion to go forward with the public auction with these items. 01:09:34
And so it may be an issue for you to pull. 01:09:42
Vehicles off of the list if you don't have another board meeting. 01:09:47
Indicating that you're not authorizing those vehicles to be put on the auction list. So are you talking vehicles as a whole, or if 01:09:52
there's just one specific vehicle in the lot, a specific vehicle? 01:09:58
So basically. 01:10:06
OK. Yes. So today you're making the motion to move forward with the public surplus auction. 01:10:09
On March 29th. And so if you're intending to pull any sort of vehicle off of that, it would have to be quick and you would have to 01:10:15
have another board meeting to make an amendment to that publication. 01:10:21
OK. Because I don't know for sure that that would be the case, I. 01:10:28
Would be looking at anything specifically, you know, I just hadn't seen this list. 01:10:32
Until, I guess it teach me not to pay attention. 01:10:38
So just now, but. 01:10:41
So we're probably set in motion as it is and if something comes up I can just tell them where to bid. 01:10:44
Correct, correct. But I believe we have these auctions often. 01:10:50
And there's inventory fluctuating through the Sheriff's Office. So you could also reach out to Deputy High Street and he could let 01:10:56
you know if there's other vehicles that do become available. 01:11:01
Thanks. Thank you. 01:11:08
I have one question, where does the money go that is generated through the auction? 01:11:11
It depends on where the vehicle originated from. 01:11:16
So and. 01:11:20
These little parenthetical references next to them show where they came from. So like. 01:11:22
That, for example, the 2008 Suzuki scooter says it's an abandoned vehicle general fund. So those funds would any funds generated 01:11:30
from the sale of that would go to the general fund. And the next line down the 1996 Dodge Ram indicates that it's a. 01:11:37
Vehicle. So those funds would have to go back into the. 01:11:45
Fund so that we were being the best possible stewards and keeping everything in line correctly, OK. 01:11:50
So they are identified vehicle by vehicle going through this list. 01:11:57
OK, great. It looks like a 20-30 vehicles, I mean quite a few. So we'll see, we'll see. 01:12:02
Well, if there's nothing else, then I'll call for a. 01:12:10
Mr. Chair. 01:12:16
I'll make the motion to authorize an online public auction through public surplus on March 29th, 2024. 01:12:18
To sell surplus or Oxley County vehicles and equipment is presented. 01:12:25
Mr. Chair, I'll second that motion, and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye, aye. 01:12:30
Thank you, Marin. Item 44 E and an Officer High Street as well 4 E Information Discussion action to approve by unanimous consent 01:12:36
of the Board without a public auction intergovernmental agreement number. 01:12:45
02162024 with the Superior Police Department, which authorizes the sale of three county vehicles. 01:12:53
For a total amount of $750, of which these vehicles have been identified as surplus or obsolete county equipment. 01:13:01
Good morning, UH. 01:13:11
Mr. Chairman, Supervisor, Client, Supervisor Humphrey There are three vehicles on this list that are of interest for the superior 01:13:14
Police Department. 01:13:19
Their uses are. 01:13:25
Enumerated. 01:13:27
In the attachment and the attached IGA. 01:13:29
One will be for, I'm sorry, They will be for administrative undercover operations. 01:13:34
And when? 01:13:41
The fair market value of each of these is $250, so the total price of $750. 01:13:44
Is is fair consideration for them? 01:13:54
As County Attorney's Office has clarified, that is your discretion under ARS 11251 NINE. 01:13:57
OK. Thank you, Supervisor Humphrey. 01:14:07
So Supervisor Klein brought up this list and we can't sell anything off this list, but now we can sell something off. These three 01:14:10
are not included, OK. So those those were those were decided upon prior to this list or not added to this list that we just 01:14:17
approved? 01:14:23
Correct. OK. 01:14:30
That's the only question I had. So if I'm, I'm good, Mr. Chair. 01:14:32
This is Vita Klein. 01:14:39
I I think if Superior has used for these vehicles, that's great. 01:14:42
Whoever did the appraisals on those vehicles, we need to keep them around. So thank you, Jessica. 01:14:48
Yes, Chairman, member supervisors. 01:14:54
To my knowledge, I don't have anything documenting like a Kelley Blue Book evaluation or anything. However, the statute does not 01:14:58
require any sort of value be given to these vehicles. There is specific authority there that if the board is determining 01:15:05
unanimously that an option is not needed, then they can go ahead and utilize that property for another governmental entity with no 01:15:12
violation of the gift clause. 01:15:18
So what you're saying in short is we could give it to him and say charging them $750, but you would have to sell it to them? 01:15:26
For a dollar. 01:15:33
That's not your description. I mean, we're talking $750 for three vehicles. That's just not much anyway, granted, but. 01:15:35
OK, so we have the option to make a motion at our discretion. 01:15:46
That's my understanding. If there's nothing else, then I will call for. 01:15:52
Mr. Chair, I move to approve intergovernmental agreement. 01:15:56
02162024 with the Superior Police Department as presented. 01:15:59
I'll second that, Mr. Chair. Well, we have a motion and a second to approve. All those in favor. Say aye. Aye, aye. Motion passes 01:16:06
unanimously. Thank you. 01:16:12
Item 4 After information discussion Action to approve Amendment #1 to A. 01:16:18
Agreement Contract #543-23 between the Arizona Department of Housing and the Gila County Public Health and Community Services 01:16:23
Department. 01:16:27
To extend the contract to June 30, 2024 and increase the contract by an additional $63,190.99 for a total contract amount of 01:16:31
$189,572.97. 01:16:39
One of the things that we do with this grant is we do allow it. It does allow for like the purchase of tents. 01:17:17
So it seems like a pretty good grant. I got to really look at what we spent money on over the last year and and it's been used 01:18:38
very well to help kind of keep people into their homes and keep them working, which is what we really want. 01:18:43
Thank you, Josh. Supervisor Humphrey. Yeah, a question. And the homelessness? 01:18:49
It do they need to be? 01:18:57
OK, without a home they don't have, they're not healing county residents I would get, but is there some consideration in being 01:18:59
healing county residents? 01:19:03
And the reason I ask that is because I know in homelessness there's a lot of them that commute winter to summer depending on where 01:19:40
they want to be homeless. 01:19:45
And so you know the people that are. 01:19:49
That are homeless and have been residents of Hila County. I'm just glad to see that they kind of get a thumbs up with this funding 01:19:52
and it's not just for whoever cares to blow through Hilo County to be honest there that month. 01:19:59
Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I'm pleasure. 01:20:07
Mr. Chair, Thank you, Josh. Thanks. First off, I want to tell you you got really good publicity on the radio here about the 01:20:10
combination. 01:20:14
Community services in your health department, too. So it was. 01:20:18
Secondly, when we did that, when we agreed to pursue the continuum of care some years ago. 01:20:23
You know, the county hadn't had that until we stepped on board here and we got it. That has been a really, really big plus for the 01:20:30
county. 01:20:33
For all the grant issues. 01:20:38
I you know looking at this I'm. 01:20:40
Just pretty happy to see the the way this money can be spent and what we can do to help these folks. 01:20:42
And I'm really thankful that we took that step. 01:20:48
Five years ago, six years ago, whatever was to do that as well. So thanks. 01:20:52
Thank you, Josh. Yeah, it's it's really refreshing to hear how it's helpful. 01:20:58
That this stuff really helps people. You learn new words. It's we never talked about transitional. 01:21:03
Housing or people in transition from being able to afford to be in their house, but the one breakdown away from losing their jobs. 01:21:09
Something And so it's it's very needed. So thank you. And with that I will call for a motion, Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to 01:21:19
approve amendment number one to Arizona Department of Housing funding agreement contract number. 01:21:26
54323 as presented. 01:21:33
Mr. Chair, I'll second that motion in a second to approve those in favor. Say aye. Aye. Thank you, Joe. 01:21:36
Consent Agenda Items We have a consent agenda, item 5A through. 01:21:44
Supervisor Humphrey, would you like to remove one or more of these items for discussion? Mr. Chair, there's nothing I care to pull 01:21:50
and discuss individually. How about you supervise the client? 01:21:56
I think I'm good. Thank you. OK, then I'll call for a motion on our consent agenda items. Mr. Chair, I move to approve consent 01:22:03
agenda items 5A through. 01:22:08
5 E and I'll second that motion to approve, and 2nd those in favor say aye A. 01:22:13
Aye, Motion carries. And now we'll move on to item number six and call to the public. This is a portion of our. 01:22:18
Meeting where the Board of Supervisors on any issue within the jurisdiction of the Board. 01:22:27
Can listen to the public and but we cannot discuss. 01:22:35
Or vote on anything specific that's not on the agenda. So and that's in. 01:22:39
ARS38-431 point 01. 01:22:45
And so I will call, see if there's anyone present here. Are you Mr. 01:22:50
Bars. 01:22:56
Please come up and introduce yourself. 01:23:00
Very part time account 76. He was doing free work. 01:23:06
But have. 01:23:12
My colleagues up in Payson are there. 01:23:16
Apparently. 01:23:20
They had an idea that we were going to. 01:23:22
Ask for a hand count on. 01:23:25
Presidential preference election in. 01:23:27
Currently I got dropped that I got a notice this morning. 01:23:31
I'm not going to do that. So that's why I thought I scheduled this to be here and. 01:23:34
I have many other things in my schedule, like many of you do, but I wouldn't want you to keep open to the ideas of election 01:23:41
integrity. Anyhow, I know that you've already approved the voting machines and I was here a couple months ago when you did all 01:23:47
that and you know, I I'm not asking for a change there, but. 01:23:52
You know the the state. 01:23:59
The legislature did pass a bill recently on election integrity. Finally, Kitty Hobbs finally approved woman after rejecting 88% of 01:24:03
the other ones. 01:24:07
That were proposed. So I think one of you with got. 01:24:12
A movie sent to you. You Mr. Christensen, let my people go and it's a two hour and 10 minute movie. I saw the movie Very good, has 01:24:20
a lot of things in it that are related to the January 6th people that are still in jail. 01:24:29
They didn't do anything. They had no weapons, They didn't do any crime. There's no and they're still in jail. Also dealt with the 01:24:40
election issues, even in the state. 01:24:44
I recently had a talk with Eric and I let him talk for a long time on. He's very strong supportive of what we what you do here and 01:24:51
I'm not contesting that that in our county, it's pretty honest. 01:24:58
But in statewide, you know he defends the state tool and that there's no that there's no there's no real issues in the in the 01:25:07
state I went online and since 2020 there are 10 criminal convictions of people that were fraudulent in the elections. I can list 01:25:14
their names. Gloria, Nadia, Victor, Tracy, Marsha Johnson. 01:25:21
Either guilty of fraudulent use of absentee ballots or. 01:25:29
Ineligible voting. 01:25:35
And so there are things in a minor scale. But then I also talked to a man named Mark Hook who helped with this movie. He also 01:25:37
helped count the ballots and when they were questioned as far as the signature verification. And he said he was there when he 01:25:45
helped cone him and he showed the actual signatures and they did not match. There were not even there. And it wasn't just a few. 01:25:52
He said there were 100,000. 01:25:59
That did not match in any way, shape or form. That's mostly in Maricopa Other county. I know that. But I ask you to keep your eyes 01:26:07
open and and listen to that movie if you can, if you can share that with your partners here, I would encourage you to do that 01:26:14
because you know, I read this morning, I'm reading the attitudes. I'm a former pastor and I do missionary work. Still I see a 01:26:20
gospel tracks wherever I go. 01:26:27
But Matthew Henry Commentary. One of the oldest commentaries in the Bible, by the way. 01:26:35
Is it shares this main principle that whatever you would do. 01:26:39
That men should do views do even to them. It's called the Golden Rule. 01:26:46
So if I might miss 3 minutes are off, am I hearing a note? 01:26:50
Not yet. OK, so Christ came to teach us not only what we are to know and believe that what we are to do. 01:26:54
What we are to do, not only toward God, but toward men, not only towards our fellow disciples, those of our party and persuasion, 01:27:02
but towards men in general, all with whom we have to do. That's a basic prin. 01:27:08
And we should all be alarmed when someone cheats us, someone does something wrong, and as the election comes up, I don't know 01:27:15
whether he may be called to from us who are in the Republican Party to adopt something. I don't know. 01:27:22
This obviously didn't translate her today, but you know, we know in Iowa one person, one vote, it worked in one day. They have, 01:27:31
they are counting. Look at that. It was very valid. So encourage you to encourage you to follow that principle, OK? 01:27:39
That's all. Thank you, Mr. Birchness. 01:27:48
I believe I can speak for all of us saying that we that we want a good and clean election in Gila County and so we are concerned 01:27:52
about that. So thank you for your presentation and your and your shared concern. We have to stay within the statutes that we're 01:27:57
limited to so. 01:28:03
OK. All right. Is there anyone else here in Globe that wishes to speak? 01:28:09
How about? 01:28:14
And on the Internet. 01:28:16
How many do we have? 01:28:19
20, OK. Thank you. 01:28:21
All right then I'll close call to the public. 01:28:23
And Ivan 7. 01:28:26
Is where we have our sharing time, so I will turn it over to County Manager Menlo. 01:28:29
Thank you, Mr. 01:28:36
Last week, they met with trustees for the Arizona Local Government Employee Benefit Trust, which is a group of 6 counties. 01:28:38
Rural counties in Arizona that combine for health insurance for our employees. 01:28:47
The trust is doing. 01:28:52
Financially, we have been. 01:28:55
Are in the back for this year and and it means that our proposed rates for fiscal year 2425 are much more reasonable than they 01:28:58
were a year ago. You recall a year ago we had double. 01:29:04
Inflation related to COVID and everything and so we had double digit increase to our health insurance costs. It's much more 01:29:11
reasonable this year and so I know that. 01:29:15
Pleased with the. 01:29:20
That is much more manageable with our health insurance for our employees coming. 01:29:23
This coming. 01:29:27
Also in the last week of. 01:29:29
Representative Eli Cranes Office Senator Cinema. 01:29:33
And Senator Kelly? 01:29:37
In addition to many federal agencies. 01:29:39
Such. 01:29:43
Your Department of Interior with Homeland Security and with other ones that all relate to interactive what we do. 01:29:46
Our our priorities in Gila. 01:29:56
And so met those and worked with funding on on the federal government a number different directions. That's my report, Mr. 01:29:59
Chairman. All right. Thank you, Supervisor. Hopefully. 01:30:04
Yeah, Mr. Hilda Roosevelt community meeting on February the 12th. 01:30:10
Within KQS on February the 12th at 5:30 PM. 01:30:16
That evening, attended the Town of Miami Hall meeting with the mayor. Council attended an ID, A meeting, Industrial Development 01:30:22
Authority meeting. 01:30:27
We worked with the health department, one of these investment properties that are in limbo for 10 years. 01:30:35
Became such a health hazard that we were able to go in and demo a portion of that, but only the portion that was deemed a health 01:30:44
hazard. We couldn't clear the whole property, but that that's a benefit because we have a lot of these properties. I, I, I, I took 01:30:50
pictures of it and wrote a little story. 01:30:56
Be out in the paper here shortly, thanks to Terry helped me write it. And so anyway, that's a good thing on some of these 01:31:03
properties that are blighted that we at least found a loophole where we can get the health department involved in some of these 01:31:09
that are really, really in bad shape. 01:31:15
And then I'll I'll attend ATRSD Tri-City, Sanitation. 01:31:22
Department. 01:31:29
Tonight at. 01:31:31
I think 5:15. 01:31:34
And so anyway, that's all I have. James and Supervisor Klein, thanks for representing us in Washington. 01:31:36
On your trip, We appreciate you. 01:31:42
Your efforts. 01:31:44
Other than that, Mr. Chair, that's all I have. Thank you. Thank you. Surprised a client. I'm anxious to hear what happened in 01:31:46
Washington. 01:31:49
So it was a good trip, I think. I think we've had good discussions. 01:31:54
Flew in there Friday. 01:31:59
I attended Public Lands Conference all day Saturday. 01:32:01
Had some speakers. 01:32:05
Talked about some different things that's going on in other counties. One thing that came up in that particular discussion was 01:32:07
there are some counties. 01:32:11
North of us Colorado up in there that have really dove into some workforce housing. 01:32:15
And it was brought up through the lands department and stuff like that, how they they went about it. But really what I got down to 01:32:21
was just the money part, you know, some of them. 01:32:26
Bank accounts and money behind them to pull it off and get started. Other ones were looking at bonding out and doing things that 01:32:31
way suppose, but it was a really good discussion there. 01:32:35
Not a lot going on overall in public lands. 01:32:40
Heard from the Natural Resource. 01:32:46
Committee Brandon Miller was there, gave a little update on some bills, but pretty much typical stuff going through right now. 01:32:49
They're trying to work on WI are the next. 01:32:56
Was pretty much a recap of public lands. For the most part, it wasn't. 01:32:59
Out of anything different and but it was a good trip All in all. 01:33:04
It was. We came back on Tuesday. 01:33:09
Didn't seem like there's a lot of participation this year. It seemed to me like it was down, but maybe not. 01:33:13
Speakers were a little like, but it was, it was all right, it was. 01:33:19
So you guys just turn next time. 01:33:24
Anyway, going on. 01:33:30
The other day I signed on to a letter to Director Vilsack Department of AG. 01:33:33
Regarding the funding with the four part project and the continued issues with contracts and funding and other counties as well 01:33:39
has done that or supervisors not counties, but anyway we sent them off through ECO. 01:33:46
Through the board, that was we got that done. House Bill, HR 1829. 01:33:53
Passed out of the House and Natural Resource Committee unanimously on February 7th. 01:34:01
So what that means is both bills have now passed out of committee and are and are on the floor for further activity for the vet 01:34:07
center. 01:34:11
So we've we've gotten over a couple really major hurdles, right. So they're sitting on the floor ready to be addressed there and 01:34:16
attached to another bill or how are they going to do it? I I'd kind of like to see them just take them on as its own bill and go 01:34:22
on with it, but but anyway it's it's sitting there. 01:34:28
One thing, one little bit of information we learned was out of all the thousands of bills that that are proposed and and out 01:34:34
there. 01:34:38
Only 11% get to where we are. 01:34:42
With this bill. 01:34:45
So I think that's a pretty good indicator that we're on the right track. 01:34:47
Where that's. 01:34:51
I I was. 01:34:56
Honored the other day I had a invite from Congressman. 01:34:57
To go back to DC on somewhere right around the 6th of March. 01:35:02
And sit with him on the state of the Union address. 01:35:07
So I'm looking forward to that. I hope it goes through and I make it back there. It'll be a quick trip, just two or three days. 01:35:11
But it's something I think would be really cool to sit there in person. 01:35:19
In the middle of it all and listen and watch how all that goes on. So I watched them on TVA lot and but I think from a personal 01:35:24
standpoint being there in person would really. 01:35:30
I got an ECO meeting coming up this Wednesday, February 21st. That's at 2:00 at the State Capital CSA. 01:35:39
Building I'm planning on being. 01:35:47
And the YCC crew update, you know every year we we push for YCC crew and sometimes we don't get anybody applies. 01:35:50
The Forest Service did apply for the funding and hopefully soon. 01:36:00
Maybe this week they'll know whether or not they got the funding for the crew. 01:36:05
Last year, last two years, they had gotten the funding, but we couldn't get the applicants to fill the crew. We got enough 01:36:09
applicants in Globe to fill this one, but we couldn't fill the one. 01:36:14
So I'm hoping that they get the funding again and give us the chance to to put those two crews together. 01:36:20
And then? 01:36:28
Monday 26th we've got a meeting with the state staff here in Arizona. 01:36:30
To discuss the possibility of partnerships with our. 01:36:36
Group or or. 01:36:40
Summer work program. 01:36:43
I brought that up to him in Superior here while back a couple weeks ago to the governor. She was there with her staff and I 01:36:44
brought up our summer youth program. 01:36:50
And her main staffer was very much interested in that. 01:36:55
Hopefully he's going to be there. 01:37:00
Somebody he appoints to be there to talk to us about it. And I can, you know, they know more about what we do. I only had a few 01:37:03
minutes that day, but. 01:37:08
And hopefully he's going to look in there and see if there's some funding from the state level that they can help. 01:37:14
Help with that as well so. 01:37:18
So I'm looking forward to that meeting on Monday. 01:37:21
And with any luck, maybe we can get more money and work with more kids. We had 50 plus kids last year. 01:37:24
But I believe we had some kids that we couldn't work in the funding. Is that right you? 01:37:33
Yeah, not a lot, but a few. 01:37:39
Yeah. 01:37:43
Yeah. So I'm hoping that if the state will, will throw in there with us. 01:37:46
And we can bump that up. 01:37:52
Keep stacking these kids in there and giving them something to do in the summer. It'll be a really good thing. 01:37:54
Yeah. And Pinal County is looking at our program right now. 01:38:01
And they're wanting to sit down and visit with me or Kathy or both of us about what's going on. 01:38:05
Well, so we got it. We're good. Anything from the Blight Blast Buster deal? 01:38:12
OK. We're good. OK. Thank God. Thank you. Good report. 01:38:18
So Speaking of bills, the state legislature has put forth over 16150 some bills at this point and they managed to pass one. 01:38:24
And one was signed into law. And it does. 01:38:36
Affect the elections process. 01:38:39
And I don't know every detail about it but. 01:38:42
It affects dates mainly to provide enough space and room. 01:38:46
To do hand counting or auto recounts or whatever that may come forth. Right now, the county officials are unable to. 01:38:51
Institute many of the things that were requested to do simply because it's not part of the state statute. And so our state 01:39:02
legislature needs to change some things in order to adopt some of the things that we see in these movies or that are recommended 01:39:08
to us so. 01:39:13
I think that that's probably a good thing. Some of the dates have changed as far. 01:39:21
The election and deadlines and things like that. So that's my report on the LPC portion. I wasn't able to. 01:39:25
Was invited to attend the. 01:39:36
What's called the best of the rim? 01:39:38
And that's. 01:39:41
Something the pacing roundup puts on so out of the casino. 01:39:43
Businesses and. 01:39:47
Various organizations. 01:39:51
Are voted upon every year to receive. 01:39:54
What's called the best of the? 01:39:57
And so there, it's an awards banquet. 01:39:59
And so it was really fun to do that. And then also we have the County wide spelling Bee. 01:40:03
Payson at the school, so we had. 01:40:13
Kids from San Carlos from Tunnel Basin Globe. 01:40:16
Hasten. 01:40:21
That were the finalists and they came to the spelling bee and I was honored to be one of the judges. 01:40:24
And I can't spell worth anything, but anyway, these kids were amazing. 01:40:30
They were spelling words I didn't even know existed. 01:40:36
And. 01:40:39
They were doing really well and so the probably was about. 01:40:42
I think it was 36. 01:40:45
And so it was pretty exciting, especially when it got down to the end. 01:40:48
Was on Kmog yesterday. Usually I get a lot of callers and I did as well yesterday. 01:40:53
So once a month I'm on KMOG and so they call in ask questions. 01:40:59
And everyone's interested in Pleasant Valley Retreat. They're interested in the bridge. They're interested. 01:41:05
The fairgrounds, they're interested in all the various projects that that goes on. 01:41:12
So it's usually a very positive experience. And then tonight I noticed that Eli Crane is going to be in Payson at Chinese 01:41:17
Restaurant tonight. 01:41:21
Hosted by the. 01:41:26
Tea party. 01:41:30
Tea Party, so that starts at six. 01:41:32
And also at the end of the month here, I think it's February 29th. 01:41:35
Have an appointment with Senator Kelly's representative. 01:41:41
Miss Rogers and Gary Morris and I will. 01:41:46
Filling her in on the Fossil Creek. 01:41:50
Recreation area issues and. 01:41:53
We've got David Cook, we've got Eli Senator. 01:41:56
Kelly and a few others that are starting to converge on. 01:42:01
To where we can maybe get some things improved there for public safety. 01:42:07
So that's all I have. So if there's nothing else in that list, yes, Sir. Yeah, it kind of sparked something for me. If I can have 01:42:11
just another minute. 01:42:16
You know and and a lot of this is thanks very much to staff and the approval of the board. But we're working on the, the payment 01:42:22
project from Daishila from the top of the hill down. 01:42:27
We're working the the bridge is supposed to be open probably in March, but not finished in completion until April or May. 01:42:33
We're working on a drainage project at Roosevelt on Stagecoach that's about halfway down or or close. It's a real mess right now, 01:42:43
but but it's going to get better because it's going to drain that area and then we've done some some Rd. surfacing and working on. 01:42:51
Roads and tunnel basin like Crappie Lane and some of those we're putting on a different surface material. 01:43:01
And so trying to make our roads last a little better. 01:43:08
And now they're doing rollers to compact what we do put down on the back of the blade. So hopefully we'll be able to get more life 01:43:12
out of the roads that we do and Mr. Chair, that's it. I just, I just wanted to do a hats off to staff and and appreciate the board 01:43:17
and helping with these projects. 01:43:23
OK, very good. Real quick, Mr. Chair, on that side, I'm glad you brought those rollers. 01:43:30
Supervisor Humphrey, so thank you for purchasing those. 01:43:35
Homero Because everybody seems real happy with them and looks to me like they're going to work good on these roads. Really, Kind 01:43:39
of. 01:43:43
Tamp them down good. 01:43:47
Thank you. We can only purchase them because the board supports it well. It was, it was a good purchase. So I appreciate that. 01:43:49
Great. I have nothing else. If there is nothing else, then we'll move on to our last item. 01:43:57
Item 8A. It's a work session. 01:44:03
So we're going to have information and discussion regarding the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreats draft policy. 01:44:07
Named Cost, Schedule and Fe. 01:44:15
Joseph, good morning, German morning. 01:44:18
As you mentioned, this is a pretty straightforward policy that's directly supporting the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat. It is 01:44:22
the cost schedule. 01:44:26
This is just an opportunity for us to bring the baseline up to the board. 01:44:30
To be able to get feedback and recommendations. So even though this is formatted as a policy. 01:44:36
This is just a discussion to see how we want to proceed forward. So on the front end, I'll go over the eligibility and then I'll 01:44:42
step into how we came to the fees and payments. 01:44:48
And then we'll step into the fees and. 01:44:53
The eligibility facility rentals are available to active duty all veterans of all eras. Eligible members are welcome to bring 01:44:56
their immediate family members and those of immediate family members or spouse, children and parents. 01:45:03
One of the requirements outlined here are Verification of Eligibility providing official Department of Defense DoD documentation. 01:45:11
And that is going to be a military ID or a DD214. 01:45:18
Joseph, can I just ask you a question at this juncture? Yes, please. So when you say. 01:45:25
All veterans. 01:45:31
That's sort of. 01:45:33
Vague to me. Would it also then include those in the National Guard? 01:45:35
Would it include? 01:45:40
More abstract, what you wouldn't consider necessarily a veteran, but was part of a military structure of some sort. 01:45:43
Folk art on you know, I know, Coast Guard the department. 01:45:51
Yes, you understand what I mean. 01:45:55
Anyone Any veteran of any sort? 01:45:59
Chairman, Board of Supervisors. That is correct. So it'd be any. 01:46:04
Military personnel that are active duty or a retired veteran. 01:46:08
OK. All right. Thanks. 01:46:12
No problem. 01:46:15
So just briefly, we did. 01:46:17
Couple. 01:46:20
Case studies from peer review. 01:46:21
That were very similar in size and objective when it came to A501C3 retreat and others locations that were maybe not a retreat but 01:46:24
did support veteran causes similar to what we're trying to drive forward. 01:46:32
What we identified there is we. 01:46:40
And there there was a lot of things that we were able to learn from those case studies and examples. 01:46:43
And through those conversations, but at the end of the day, we're given the opportunity to create something that directly 01:46:50
supports. 01:46:54
The Pleasant Valley Veterans, Ret. 01:46:58
The cost that we came up. 01:47:02
Are directly connected to the operational status of the site. 01:47:05
There is no profit in line with this. 01:47:10
So we did a cost. 01:47:13
Across the entire site, how much does it cost us to operate on a daily? 01:47:15
But also what's rolled into it is the sustainability practice. 01:47:21
Of direct replace. 01:47:25
For the site. 01:47:27
If we know we're going to be replacing HVAC systems in the next 25 years, we need to start investing in that now. 01:47:30
And that's rolled into the cost. So please keep that in mind. 01:47:36
The single family cabins is a flat rate that we're looking at for $230. 01:47:41
The multi room Barrett costs are 58. 01:47:47
And just kind of give the board a little bit of a recap the cabins can support. It's a 3 bedroom. 01:47:50
Can support a. 01:47:57
The multi room. 01:47:59
Are a common facility. 01:48:02
With single. 01:48:05
The other thing that we broke out into this cost schedule is something that is in line with. 01:48:10
One of the primary goals of the Pleasant Valley veterans Ret. 01:48:16
And that is to create a landing for 501C3S and other partners that directly support. 01:48:20
Supporting veterans. 01:48:26
A broad title. 01:48:28
With that, we gave it a sliding scale of cost. 01:48:32
When it comes to supporting those 501. 01:48:37
What we tied that into. 01:48:41
The number of veterans, qualified veterans that they're bringing in to be able to support. 01:48:44
So when we go through the qualifications, it's a pretty straightforward qualification. 01:48:51
We are able to verify if they're A501C3 that directly supports veteran causes. 01:48:55
And of course, the quantity of veterans that they're going to be bringing in to support. 01:49:01
As a quick example, Tier 4 is a nonprofit that supports one to five qualified veterans. 01:49:07
And have a 501C3 qualification are eligible for a 25% REL. 01:49:14
Now that's on the bottom end or the top end of the scale, depending on how you look at it. 01:49:19
On the other end of the scale, the Tier 1 nonprofit support that supports 15 or more qualified veterans. 01:49:25
And have a 501C3 qualification or eligible for an 85% relief. 01:49:31
Again, these are some of our recommendations based off of our peer-to-peer reviews and our research. 01:49:35
We are absolutely open to any thoughts or recommendations for that. I'd like to open the floor for any questions. 01:49:43
Or comments? 01:49:51
Thank you, Joseph Supervisor Humphrey. 01:49:53
Yeah, I guess I'm confused. 01:49:58
Because my deal centers here, says. 01:50:01
Work session. 01:50:04
So OK, I guess my deal is with all of the costs and stuff. 01:50:08
And what you come up for cost of the 230? 01:50:17
With an 85% rel. 01:50:21
Then how do you? 01:50:24
How are you gonna replace stuff in 25 years if if you? 01:50:26
Given 85%. 01:50:31
To people who are. 01:50:33
That chairman, Board of Supervisor. 01:50:35
Humphrey. 01:50:38
What we're looking at doing is so if an individual as a veteran or his family wants to come up. 01:50:41
They will not qualify for. 01:50:47
Slideshow A501C. 01:50:49
That comes in typically bringing those higher numbers. 01:50:54
It's just an opportunity for them. 01:50:57
Be able to support. 01:51:00
While at the same. 01:51:02
Making it affordable for some of those larger 501. 01:51:04
An example, we have some that were coming in around 15. 01:51:08
They're looking to. 01:51:13
If we charge them the normal rate. 01:51:15
That we would be looking at about a 10 to $12,000 fee for them. 01:51:17
Now don't get me wrong. 01:51:23
That would really put us in a great place from. 01:51:24
Practice or. 01:51:28
Maintenance side of it. 01:51:30
However, we don't require that on the first year. 01:51:32
That's something that we're looking to gain over a long period of time. 01:51:35
Is. 01:51:39
The thought that the tiered. 01:51:43
Will not have a negative effect on our ability to be sustainable over the long period of time. 01:51:46
Anything else supervisor? Yeah, I guess another question is we have other facilities that we. 01:52:08
In charge for people to have functions there. 01:52:15
Do we have the same sliding scale? 01:52:21
For those facilities. 01:52:24
You don't have to answer that right now because we're on a work session for Pleasant Valley, but that's one I wanted to throw out 01:52:26
there for when we have a work session on some of those other facilities. 01:52:31
That we're leasing out good news. We're looking to apply the same thought process and technique across the board. 01:52:37
Nothing else, Mr. Chair. 01:52:47
Supervisor. 01:52:49
Thank you, Mr. Chair, so. 01:52:52
So I'm just going to jump into it. I don't believe we used to charge veterans anything. 01:52:56
I personally believe you veterans, and I'm not a veteran, but you veterans have already paid the price for anything that's going 01:53:01
to go on on this particular site. 01:53:05
And with that, I want to clarify that because this site can only be used for veterans. 01:53:10
It's not a fairground, so we can have fairs or rock shows or gun shows or anything like that. It can only be used for veterans or 01:53:17
in support of. 01:53:21
So to me, a couple things. Like I said once, as far as I'm concerned, all you veterans, everyone of you out there, whatever branch 01:53:28
it's in, has already sacrificed and paid that price. Secondly, I look at this site a lot differently in the fact it was given to 01:53:33
us. 01:53:39
We didn't build. 01:53:46
It was already built and we repurposed. 01:53:48
And I think as as far as I'm concerned, that's a way that I feel like I can give back to you folks that was out there, you know 01:53:51
overseas and loading square for all that time that I wasn't. 01:53:58
And that's and I and I know what you're saying about the cost. 01:54:06
Whether it's an HVAC system or whatever. 01:54:10
What about the cost you guys put in there? 01:54:13
And so when I look at this, that's what I really see. 01:54:17
And I I would feel. 01:54:20
I would be fine if there was some kind of donations that could be out there, whatever, but overall for for what This site is and 01:54:23
what it's purposed for. 01:54:28
And for what you folks have. 01:54:34
No, I don't think there should be a cost. I think that's something that the county. 01:54:37
Can hold up and that we can work with through whether it's other grants, it's other. 01:54:41
Money from from where? 01:54:48
I honestly believe the money will come. It doesn't have to be out your guys's and gals pocket. 01:54:50
That's that's where I'm at with it. 01:54:57
Mr. Chairman, thank you. Thank you. Supervisor Arnold Joseph, how much do you estimate will be the cost of running this facility? 01:55:00
Annually. 01:55:08
Annually. 01:55:11
I don't have that finger in front of me, so I'd have to. 01:55:14
OK, so. 01:55:18
There's upkeep. 01:55:19
There's replacement, there's insurance. 01:55:21
There's. 01:55:25
You haven't any sort of a vague idea of what that looks like. We also have an employee or more. 01:55:27
Those kind of things, Roger, that Chairman, Board of Supervisors, yes, we do have that number. Unfortunately, I don't have that in 01:55:33
front of me, but I'd be happy to get that to you. 01:55:37
OK. Would you say it would be 100,000? 01:55:42
I mean, am I off base? Am I 200,000? 01:55:46
You have no idea. I mean, you don't want to guess, I know. 01:55:50
Correct. So we do have that number, but again, I don't want to give. 01:55:53
So I agree with supervisor. 01:56:00
I think that the fees. 01:56:03
High, actually. 01:56:06
We may. I would accept a much lower fee just to help. 01:56:08
As a kind of a donation situation, maybe 10 dollars, $20, whatever. But if there's going to be an event, maybe there would be a 01:56:14
fee for that where there'd be a whole. 01:56:19
Great. Big event where the impact to utilities and things like that would be there. There could be some sort of a fee. 01:56:24
But I think I agree with him. 01:56:31
That we should. 01:56:34
We should try and pay for this through donations and grants as much as possible. 01:56:36
OK, your tiers here. 01:56:42
I just did some quick math. 01:56:46
If a person went from Tier 4 to tier 3 by just adding one one individual. 01:56:49
They're going to save 25%. 01:56:56
Which they would actually payless to do 6 people than to do the five. So the reduction there. 01:56:59
Quite a bit. I mean it's significant. And then the next one is also another 25. 01:57:10
And. 01:57:15
It would not make sense for someone to come in and say let's sponsor 5. 01:57:19
When let's just grab another one one person. 01:57:23
Will Payless doing? 01:57:28
You understand what I'm saying there? Absolutely. The relief is so much that. 01:57:30
It would not make sense to do 5 or less. 01:57:37
Chairman, Board of Supervisors. That is a very great point. 01:57:41
To the advantage of the tiered system, I think you point out the advantage to it. 01:57:44
It encourages these other 501 CS to pull more into our site, so if they do have. 01:57:49
Say at one of those numbers of the threshold 5, it encourages them to have minimum shrine pull in another one to get into that 01:57:55
other. 01:57:59
Tiered. 01:58:04
Feed pay schedule. Excuse me. 01:58:07
And then so on. So even if a nonprofit has one to five, it would be to their benefit to pull in 15 veterans versus just one to 01:58:10
five. 01:58:14
So I think it goes to one of your points is it encourages them. It encourages it, right? OK. 01:58:19
So I'm going to ask James and then it looks like you have another question. Oh, whenever, James, so the sustainability of this 01:58:24
facility, can you enlighten us on the financial side of this? 01:58:31
Sure, Mr. Chairman, member of the Board. 01:58:38
There's different levels of what you might consider. 01:58:42
Of financial resources that we need for sustainability. 01:58:46
When there's going to be direct costs that relate to individuals that come and stay for utilities. 01:58:50
Just laundry like you would in a hotel room of what those actual costs somebody comes. 01:58:56
And sleeps in a bed, what is your cost to clean? 01:59:03
The arranger house or whatever. 01:59:06
Those would could be min. 01:59:09
The rest of the cost, we have a couple of full time employees that are out there on site managing. 01:59:11
Directing the affairs and trying to keep up with the maintenance of facilities and all such things. So couple of employees that we 01:59:19
have. 01:59:22
Is another level. 01:59:26
That we would have in sustainability and. 01:59:28
What it costs to run? 01:59:31
And then, as Joseph said, we've. 01:59:33
It's a facility that. 01:59:37
When we get, when we get the conveyance, it'll be conveyed to the county at no cost. 01:59:40
For the 232. 01:59:45
And then we have used. 01:59:47
Federal grant money and soon to be state grant money for the facilities. 01:59:49
So as far. 01:59:54
Maintaining HVAC systems and all of that. That is typically something like is mentioned about the fairgrounds. 01:59:59
When we're charging for those facilities, we typically don't build those into what we're going to. 02:00:06
Charge for using the fairgrounds. 02:00:12
And so that may be something you just want to consider, that's just part of our facilities, our ongoing obligation. 02:00:16
Facilities owned by the county and so it's not something. 02:00:23
You may want to necessarily consider recouping those charges for those costs. 02:00:26
Or so there's just different levels of sustainability. 02:00:32
Certainly with the salaries. 02:00:36
Joseph isn't wanting to, but I would put down it. It could be as much as half $1,000,000 a year. 02:00:41
Two for utilities and for salaries. 02:00:47
And having people come. 02:00:50
It could be less than. 02:00:52
That's just a. 02:00:55
Pops into my mind of what it might cost. 02:00:57
Supervisor client, did you have something? 02:01:01
I do. 02:01:03
And so I don't disagree with James. 02:01:04
Joseph too, it's right now we're just in the initial stages, so it's really, really hard. 02:01:07
To really lock down some good solid costs, I think. 02:01:13
And you correct me if I'm wrong, Joseph. 02:01:18
You know, I think as another year goes by, maybe two years, we'll have those, those figures pretty well nailed down. That's what I 02:01:20
think. 02:01:25
The other part of this that we do need to discuss, and I think Kathy would be willing to talk about it, Mr. Chair, if you'd like, 02:01:31
is the nonprofit side of this. 02:01:35
And one thing about this site I want everybody to understand too. This site has got a lot of attention. 02:01:40
An awful lot of attention from some very high up people. 02:01:48
And I just only see that getting bigger and better. 02:01:53
As This site is used and things go on, when we talk, when we're talking about the cost, you know in groups and a group of X amount 02:01:58
of people would get so much of percentage. 02:02:04
Fine and. 02:02:09
Oh, I don't agree with it, but it's those single individuals. 02:02:11
That's hard. I know a lot of veterans. 02:02:15
They can't go out there and pay $230 a night for for house for a man, his wife and kids. They just can't do that. And so by that 02:02:18
we're turning people away. 02:02:23
And that is absolutely 100. 02:02:29
Not what I want to see. Not. Not after we've done all this work to get to where we are today to. 02:02:33
To turn somebody away from that. 02:02:40
And so that. 02:02:43
There again, that's another one of my biggest reasons other than what I've already spoken of. But well back to the 501 C three I 02:02:44
think as as this goes on and more attention. 02:02:49
Is placed on this site. 02:02:55
This 501C3. 02:02:57
Is. 02:02:59
Be more and more. 02:03:01
And and I think that's going to help us offset. 02:03:03
For. 02:03:07
I can't tell you how much I you know. Like I said, time will tell. We need we need another Goodyear. 02:03:09
To really see what it's going to do. But you know, we had one fundraiser in. 02:03:14
And we collected, what, 30 some $1000 off of it just one night. 02:03:20
Few hours one night and so as this continues to build and then we start having fundraisers there on the site other whether it's 02:03:26
other elected somewhere else that want to throw money at it force and help promote it or whatever it is I I I foresee it just 02:03:32
building to offset. 02:03:38
A cost like what Mr. Menlo is talking about. 02:03:45
With that Mr. Chair, if you'd like to hear what Kathy has, I would. Yeah, Kathy, please. Nonprofit. 02:03:48
We've had a discussion with our nonprofit board members and where we haven't. 02:03:55
Formalized an agreement with the county. We've discussed it, but what the nonprofit board members have discussed is. 02:04:00
Annually, quarterly, however we would set it up to do it is to compensate the county for the maybe the number of veterans that do 02:04:07
come in so that we could pay that back. And that's kind of been part of their platform right now. And I should be able to tell you 02:04:13
right off the top of my head, I apologize how much we have our treasury, but I think we have a little over $50,000, but some of 02:04:19
that is committed also to furnishing the game room. 02:04:25
Out at the retreat which we already have gotten started on that thanks to our IT department guys. Anyway that's kind of where we 02:04:31
were at as far as like compensating the county for that because we realized that the that this is a big. 02:04:37
This is a big project for a county. It's not a typical project that a county takes on and we appreciate that. But that is our plan 02:04:44
going forward is to be able to pay the. 02:04:49
Semiannually or annually for some of the guests that stay there and like Joseph mentioned. 02:04:54
Was a couple of weeks ago. We had a group that came out and they've saved there before for justice one night. But they came for 02:05:00
their motorcycle group that operates out of both Arizona and Colorado. And they've been huge supporters for us. I mean, nationally 02:05:06
they've talked about us all over and we've gotten a lot of attention just from them. 02:05:11
When they were planning to come in for two weeks in March, I think they were coming in for two weeks. 02:05:17
And then they had a scouting trip that they'd come in for a few days if we took their two weeks and the number of guys that they 02:05:23
were going to bring in with them and then that would take two barracks in the house. We were talking almost $10,000 for them. And 02:05:28
this group bankrolls their whole this whole trip. 02:05:33
All the people have to do is to fly into. 02:05:38
The airport either in Colorado or in Arizona, and from that point forward, for a week or 10 days, this nonprofit pays for 02:05:41
everything. 02:05:44
So for them to have to pay they almost $10,000, they just told me flat out they weren't coming, that they can't afford that. 02:05:48
And these guys are all getting treated for PTSD, traumatic brain injury, that kind of thing, while they're on this, right? So 02:05:55
these are the kind of groups that we need, and we hated to see them say, I'm sorry, but we can't afford to come there because 02:05:59
that's not an answer. 02:06:04
We ever want to get. We also have tried the donation part of it because we didn't have a fee schedule and that has not worked out 02:06:08
very well because the donations have come in at $0.00. 02:06:13
And I think one donation was. 02:06:19
$10 or a night. So that part of it has not worked out very well for us without the fee schedule. So we need a fee schedule. I 02:06:22
truly believe that. 02:06:26
But then I also think we need. 02:06:30
Put in agreement with that nonprofit to be able to help the county out, however. 02:06:32
Mr. Medlove and Mr. O'Driscoll figure that would be, and Joseph, you know, I know that they're willing to do that. So that's 02:06:36
something out there as well to help out with the fees. 02:06:41
Because I would imagine this is going to cost a little bit to run that place annually. 02:06:47
Mr. Chairman. 02:06:52
Oh yes, Sir, Mr. Member. 02:06:54
Mr. Chairman, remember what? I agree wholeheartedly with Roger Klein that. 02:06:56
Our veterans they gives us, gives us freedoms, gives us, ensures us things that we have in this country. 02:07:04
That we are truly inde. 02:07:10
There are those that have given the ultimate SACR. 02:07:13
I don't want to put rain on the parade, but there is a consideration as a government of gifting. 02:07:17
The facility that there needs to. 02:07:25
Some sort of fee structure, so I apologize for bringing that up, but there. 02:07:28
Is it does need to be considered and so appreciate this opportunity. Just have this preliminary discussion. 02:07:34
And get. 02:07:40
As unless Jessica tells me that no, we don't have to worry about that in this case. 02:07:43
I I believe it's something that has to. 02:07:51
Thank you, Jessica. Please. Yes, Chairman, member, supervisors. So this sliding scale would also raise a concern as well, just to 02:07:55
set the precedent. 02:08:00
Mr. Dalton. 02:08:06
Contribute significant time researching whether or not there could be a comparable scale. 02:08:08
For the fairgrounds, and what he found is that it would be a violation of the gift clause. 02:08:14
So at that point it was my understanding that the fees. 02:08:20
Done away with, recently reinstated. However, if there was some sort of waiver of fees, then yes, it would be considered a 02:08:24
violation of the gift clause because. 02:08:30
We would be gifting something to these nonprofits in that they would not have to be paying paying the fees. 02:08:36
That other individuals were responsible for paying now if. 02:08:43
There was some sort of system set up where there were donations coming in and those donations were allocated towards the sliding 02:08:49
scale, then that might be a possibility, but if the sliding scale was? 02:08:56
Taking away from the governmental entity with not having anything returned to the governmental entity, the county, then yes, that 02:09:04
would be a violation of the gift clause. 02:09:09
Do you want my $0.02? 02:09:16
I appreciate you don't take me wrong, Jessica, I really do. But these folks have already given a lot. They've already paid that 02:09:19
price. 02:09:24
And that's the difference I see between one site and another. 02:09:29
We're not just having somebody come in and do a rock show or anything, we're having folks show up there that have issues. 02:09:33
That have a place to go and have the help they can bring with them or whatever to address issues like that. 02:09:40
Now. 02:09:47
If we have to look at some type of a fee to. 02:09:50
Much as I don't like it, address that gift clause because I honestly believe that's already been paid in full by these folks. 02:09:55
But if we have to do that, it needs to be something really, really low. 02:10:02
Because there is no. 02:10:06
We should ever turn somebody away from that site. 02:10:10
And unfortunately, it's all about money. I get it. 02:10:14
But if you think about it, we have a site that is in the process of being conveyed to us. It's worth how many millions of dollars. 02:10:19
We didn't build it. We didn't buy it. We repurposed it. 02:10:25
We've put some money into. 02:10:32
But most of the money has come. 02:10:34
State Representative Marshall or the ARPA Fund. 02:10:38
Things of that nature where it needed to go back to the people, which was a really good place to go with it, I agree. 02:10:42
As we go along, you know, I'm just going to go back to that, I think with the attention it has. 02:10:49
We are going to start generating more funds from the. 02:10:55
The donation part of it is hard because there are people that. 02:11:00
Give you anything, there's other people that will give you 300 bucks for a night. You know, that's that's the ups and downs of 02:11:05
that. I I get that for a group, you know, like that motorcycle group I think they gave us. 02:11:11
What, 1800 or something like that for one night? Or is that? 02:11:17
APS had a meeting there, so there's different things there that that it fluctuates. There's nothing. 02:11:22
Consistent. 02:11:28
But. 02:11:30
I I'm, I'm going to tell you guys I put a lot of time and effort into this, this deal and thank you all for the support, but there 02:11:32
is no way in hell we want to turn anybody away from that site for whatever reason it is the minute we do that. 02:11:39
We will lose support for that site, I'm telling you that straight up. 02:11:47
And when I talk to people from here to DC. 02:11:51
They're all about it. 02:11:55
That's helped the veterans. Let's do what we can yada yada yada. But if you think we could ever turn somebody away and not hear 02:11:57
about it, you might want to think again because. 02:12:02
It's not right that we would do that. So I appreciate where you're coming from on the gift pass and I know it's statute. 02:12:08