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Can't believe it? 00:00:02
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United. 00:00:05
Let's pray. 00:00:32
Father, thank you so much for your goodness. 00:00:34
Thank you. 00:00:37
The ability to live here in beautiful Gila County. 00:00:39
We thank you, God, that you've given us this beautiful place, and we pray. 00:00:42
The right ability and choices to steward it correctly. 00:00:47
Today I just pray for the Board of Supervisors that you would give each one of them wisdom as they walk through decisions and 00:00:52
choices that in no way can make everyone happy. But I pray God today that you give them the ability to balance justice and and 00:00:58
mercy together and come to decisions that will help our county. 00:01:05
We pray for every business owner and we ask you, Father, to bless economically every single person that is working together to 00:01:12
make this county a great county. 00:01:17
And we pray, Father, that there would be a revival of the. 00:01:23
So that the crime rate would go down and that people's hearts would be turned towards you. 00:01:27
But we thank you and we praise you for your help at this very moment and during this time. 00:01:32
And we give you the glory in Jesus name. Amen. 00:01:37
Thank you for that prayer. 00:01:42
Please be seated. 00:01:44
I already have a couple of calls to the public papers, which are the blue ones. 00:01:47
And if you're here today or in Payson and wish to speak, that'll be called at the end of the meeting, so if. 00:01:52
If more than the two, then please fill one out. Bring it up. 00:02:00
To the clerk. And so let's start with item 2A on our regular agenda. 00:02:06
I'm going to call for a motion to recess as the helicon of Board of Supervisors and convene as the Board of Directors of the Heel 00:02:12
of. 00:02:16
County Flood Control District. 00:02:19
I'll second it. We have a motion in the second. All those in favor say aye, aye, aye. And so we. 00:02:23
Are the Hill County Flood Control District. We have information, discussion and action to approve or deny a request submitted by 00:02:30
Steve Mr. Steve Medina for a variance from the requirements of the Gila County Floodplain Management Ordinance for a room addition 00:02:38
to a manufactured home, 107 S Cottonwood in Visila, Arizona. 00:02:46
Which was built without a permit and is not in compliance with the ordinance and we have with us Darv today. 00:02:54
Mr. Chairman, members of the board, I'm glad to be here. 00:03:05
Present this information to you. 00:03:09
This is a request received from Mr. Steve Medina. 00:03:17
For Image Elite Services, LLC, which. 00:03:21
Deals with manufactured housing. 00:03:25
Is requesting A variance from the requirements of the Gila County Floodplain Management Ordinance. 00:03:31
For the parcel at 107 S Cottonwood Lane, Guy. 00:03:37
And this? 00:03:42
This information is going to supplement the agenda item with some additional detail regarding this variance request. 00:03:44
For background in August 20. 00:03:53
The County Community Development Code enforce. 00:03:57
Opened a case for this. 00:04:01
Property for building an addition onto the manufactured home without permits. 00:04:03
In September 2022, code enforcement notified Mr. Medina of floodplain requirements, among other requirements. 00:04:09
On September 20. 00:04:18
2020. 00:04:21
Mr. Medina was sent a formal notice that his room addition was in violation of floor plan requirements. 00:04:23
And stated what was required to bring it into compliance. 00:04:30
Specifically mentioned where the required minimum floor ele. 00:04:35
Flood damage resistant materials below the regulatory flood elevation. 00:04:40
And flood vents in the walls around the crawl space below the room addition. 00:04:45
Notwithstanding the notices of violation of his request. 00:04:51
Work continued on the project without addressing the most critical issue, the floor elevation. 00:04:55
I'm sorry, Doctor. You said the most critical. What the most critical issue? The floor elevation. 00:05:07
And now the the flood vents were installed in the crawl space but the floor was not raised. 00:05:13
The materials were the same. 00:05:20
Blood resistant materials to. 00:05:22
To my knowledge. 00:05:24
Then in October. 00:05:28
31st 2023 Mr. Medina. 00:05:30
About the procedure to get a floodplain. 00:05:34
And then on November. 00:05:39
He requested a floodplain variance. 00:05:41
Subsequently, staff reviewed his request and suggested that it might be to his advantage to provide more detail and justification. 00:05:45
For the brilliance request. 00:05:54
And a copy of the ordinance was sent and that the sections were noted that were relevant to the various procedures. 00:05:57
Which would be advisable for him to consider and? 00:06:03
How a variance? 00:06:07
Justifiable for this project? 00:06:09
This information was not included in the latest variance request. 00:06:13
So then on January 20, January? 00:06:21
This request was submitted with. 00:06:24
And the information that you're given. 00:06:29
Normally a request for would be for a variance to specific requirements of the ordinance. 00:06:34
And. 00:06:42
In fact. 00:06:45
Federal Law, Section 44 CFR 60.6. 00:06:50
It is required that the variances to be the minimum action necessary to afford relief. 00:06:55
And. 00:07:03
The absence of. 00:07:05
Specific information. 00:07:07
Implies. 00:07:11
This request is for a variance from all floodplain requirements. 00:07:13
For this entire time entire parcel without time limitations, that's how. 00:07:17
I would interpret. 00:07:25
And clarification might be. 00:07:27
The attorneys. 00:07:30
Feel free to. 00:07:33
Mr. Medina provided an elevation certificate. 00:07:37
Which? 00:07:41
Flood vents were added to the wall around the crawl space. 00:07:43
But that the floor elevation of the room addition was constructed 2.2 feet. 00:07:47
Below the required floor elevation. 00:07:53
Now the required floor elevation is 1 foot above. 00:07:58
100 year water level level. 00:08:01
So he's. 00:08:07
1.2 feet below the actual water level. 00:08:09
And two 2.2 feet below the required elevation. 00:08:13
This elevation certificate also provided numbers to show that the depth of water in 100 year flood. 00:08:18
Would be 2.9 to 5.3 feet above the ground adjacent to the home. 00:08:24
There must be a mound or a hole there somewhere, but that gives you. 00:08:31
Feel. 00:08:36
To the flood there. 00:08:40
And as floodwaters could inundate the floors of the building more than a foot deep. 00:08:44
There is a risk of significant damage. 00:08:49
For the structure and personal. 00:08:52
There's also risk to health and safety. 00:08:54
For the occupants from contaminated flood water. 00:08:58
Debris and silt entering the home and MO. 00:09:02
Growth in the building after the floodwaters received. 00:09:05
Floodwaters are also expected to be about four feet deep at the driveway. 00:09:10
So ingress and egress. 00:09:16
Difficult either on foot or by. 00:09:19
Since residents are not safe inside the home because it's in. 00:09:24
There is not a Safeway to leave. 00:09:28
And emergency responders would be at risk. 00:09:31
Occupants to. 00:09:34
This creates a potential hazard to the health and safety of occupants and respond. 00:09:37
This situation could be. 00:09:43
By complying with the floodplain regulations. 00:09:46
And as you know, deep flooding from Tunnel Creek. 00:09:51
Could last for a fairly long duration. 00:09:54
Depending on the storm. 00:09:57
I see nothing unique about this parcel compared to the neighborhood. 00:10:01
Which would warrant a variance to waive off floodplain requirements. 00:10:06
There is a statement on the variance request letter. 00:10:12
That the addition needs to be low to match the floor of the manufactured home. 00:10:15
This manufactured home was set prior to the regulations being in effect. 00:10:20
So it would not have to be. 00:10:25
'Cause it's that grandfather. 00:10:28
But steps into the addition, while not desirable, could be possible. 00:10:31
Alternatively, the manufactured. 00:10:36
Could be reset to the required flood elevation. 00:10:39
To match the. 00:10:42
The addition if it were raised up. 00:10:46
That non compliant. 00:10:53
Could also be removed in. 00:10:55
And meet the requirements of the regulations. 00:10:58
And although there would be costs, neither of these alternatives would require a variance. 00:11:02
In the ordinance, the definition of exceptional hardship which might justify our variance. 00:11:10
Specifically excludes cost as an exceptional hardship. 00:11:16
Therefore, a decision by the board to deny a variance would not result in an exceptional hardship for the ordinance. 00:11:23
If a variance is granted. 00:11:33
The ordinance requires that a notification signed by the chairman of the board. 00:11:36
Be recorded so that it appears in the chain of title of the. 00:11:41
The required wording is summarized as follows. 00:11:46
A variance to construct a structure below the flood level could increase flood insurance premiums. 00:11:50
Increases the risk to life and. 00:11:55
And that the land would be ineligible for exchange of land pursuant to any flood relocation and land exchange program. 00:11:58
And as a precautionary note. 00:12:10
A history of variances. 00:12:13
Jeopardize Gila County standing in the National Flood Insurance Program. 00:12:15
Which could cause flood insurance premiums to rise for all county residents. 00:12:20
Forget the county suspended from the National Flood Insurance Program. 00:12:26
Which would make federal blood insurance unavailable. 00:12:30
Those are not automatic with this variance, but. 00:12:34
If it is granted that those are possibilities, that the trend persists. 00:12:39
So in conclusion, there are health and safety issues for future building occupants. 00:12:46
And emergency respond. 00:12:51
If a variance is issued to allow the building addition floor. 00:12:54
To remain below the regulatory flood elevation. 00:12:58
Are also flood insurance premium disadvantages? 00:13:03
The advantage of the variance appears to be purely economic, at the expense of the health and safety of occupants. 00:13:08
And future owners and occupants. 00:13:15
The ordinance allows a variance to be granted for an exceptional hardship that would result from failure to grant the ordinance. 00:13:21
It further states that the required it is required that the except that the variance be exceptional unusual. 00:13:30
And peculiar to the property involved. 00:13:37
Economic or financial hardship alone is not exceptional. That's out of the ordinance. 00:13:40
And staff recommends that this variance request be denied for the. 00:13:48
I just. 00:13:54
General Manager decision is yours. 00:13:56
Thank you, darling supervisor. 00:13:59
I I have no questions. I mean if you. 00:14:03
Pretty. 00:14:07
Examination of the building and of the home. 00:14:09
And the reason that the home is in the floodplain is because it was. 00:14:13
Set prior to. 00:14:16
Or it would be in violation as well. So I have no questions. 00:14:19
Supervisor Klein, this is what I don't like about floodplain stuff. Or does this right here. And the reason is, is we have so many 00:14:24
of these situations in Hemet County. 00:14:30
And So what you're saying is, is if we deny the variance, he's going to have to tear that down and live without an addition on 00:14:35
that modular. Which case the modular is already in the floodplain. 00:14:41
Per today's standards, that the whole house is in the floodplain from the driveway on in. 00:14:47
Whether we allow or not allow this addition on this trailer, that trailer could wash away next year anyway, right? 00:14:54
And so if if it does, if that was to happen. 00:15:03
Who's gonna replace that? It's not he the county, right? It's the. 00:15:06
And so all we are doing on something like this, in my opinion is saying to this individual. 00:15:12
No, you can't have this addition which. 00:15:18
To me, the whole situation is is is out of place as far as our floodplain. 00:15:22
Standards go anyway. 00:15:30
Is still going to. 00:15:32
Whether that additions on that house or not, that whole thing could go down the Creek. 00:15:34
Right possibility. 00:15:40
Well, you said, you know, from the driveway going in, you're 4 feet inside the floodplain. 00:15:43
So to me it's like and we have so many of these situations. 00:15:49
That's, that's where I'm coming from. It's like you look at Gila County as a whole. 00:15:53
My. 00:15:59
Which is more than half the heel accounting. I've got a number of these things there. 00:16:01
Now the question I would ask you if this variance was granted, would this individual be able to get a building permit to go ahead 00:16:05
and continue? 00:16:09
And finish this edition? Or how would that work if the variance is granted? 00:16:14
And he takes care of all. 00:16:19
Building code. 00:16:22
And zoning issues, whatever other requirements. 00:16:25
He could be. 00:16:29
Well, we don't in floodplain the ordinance doesn't allow us to. 00:16:32
Issue a floodplain. 00:16:36
But we. 00:16:39
The notice of violation is. 00:16:43
Is resolved by a variance. 00:16:47
OK, so there wouldn't be floodplain requirements. 00:16:51
Now. 00:16:56
Speak to the issue. 00:16:57
There being a hazard, yes, there was still a hazard from. 00:17:02
Manufactured home unless they raise that also. 00:17:06
And we're. 00:17:10
They either remove or raise the. 00:17:13
Right now in the time that I've been working here. 00:17:17
I do take some satisfaction that. 00:17:23
During. After. 00:17:26
The houses that. 00:17:28
Have been built with. 00:17:33
Are not usually the ones with significant flood damage, it's those that are. 00:17:35
Were built before. 00:17:41
The regulations. 00:17:43
So as. 00:17:45
As building progress. 00:17:48
And they meet these requirements, We're building a more flood resistant community. 00:17:51
And I think that's the benefit. 00:17:57
Everybody in the county. 00:18:01
Unfortunately. 00:18:03
You know, we don't. Well, I guess. 00:18:05
Fortunately, we don't have the authority to make. 00:18:08
Retroactively. 00:18:12
Bring things into compliance, but from a safety standpoint, I know we still have a lot of those. 00:18:16
Buildings. 00:18:22
But over. 00:18:24
As they add to them. 00:18:26
Or replace them. We are building a more flood resistant community. 00:18:29
So Dar, I've lived in Henry County all my life. I was born here. I've seen these creeps flood. 00:18:35
And I've seen the damage they do. We've dealt with some of the situations on Panel Creek over there and campaign Creek and 00:18:42
whatnot. I see that and and you can build whatever you want in some of these areas and it ain't gonna matter. On some of these 00:18:48
floods, someone we're gonna wash away and some of them aren't. There's and sometimes there's no rhyme. 00:18:54
But what I am saying is in my. 00:19:00
Mine only is that. 00:19:04
This property owner is. 00:19:08
Has lived there. I don't know how long. 00:19:12
You know, and he wants to build this. It isn't up to me to worry about what his flood insurance is going to cost and not going to 00:19:14
cost. 00:19:18
He's the one that's doing this. 00:19:23
And he's already in the floodplain with his whole house, basically. 00:19:25
And all's we would do if we denied this variance is making teardown as addition. 00:19:30
But he's still going to live there, he or she, whoever it is. 00:19:36
Is still gonna live there. 00:19:39
And they're still going to be the ones that's going to have to deal with it if that ever happens to wash away. 00:19:41
Not helicopter. 00:19:46
And so that's all I'm saying and that's why I've had these discussions when we talked about this ordinance to start with. 00:19:48
Floodplain issues are. 00:19:55
Or they come to us from every. 00:19:58
Because Gila County has so much property in what is now considered flood plains, we can't get away from it. And as a lot of these 00:20:00
areas develop, the more sought after areas, more people are pushed off into what would be considered floodplains now. 00:20:08
And so, I mean, I get it. We're going to deal with it and we're going to have to address it going on in the future. But we have a 00:20:16
number of these situations sitting out there in Gila County. 00:20:21
And and if we make that gentleman tear down his addition? 00:20:26
We're not. We're not doing anything but. 00:20:29
Causing him problems right there in my opinion. 00:20:32
So that's all I have to say about it and I'll let you have it. Mr. Chair. Thank you supervisor. Thank you Card for. 00:20:35
Your presentation and your point of view. 00:20:43
I'm inclined to say that the reason we have the opportunity for variances is because there's unique situations that arise. This is 00:20:48
certainly one where the home is below the flood level and now an addition that's going to be 2 1/2 feet or two feet higher than 00:20:54
the than the home existing is. 00:21:01
Does not seem to make logical sense other than it complies with. 00:21:10
The floodplain issues, so umm. 00:21:14
Did. Is Mr. Medina here today? I don't think he is. 00:21:18
But do you know if Mr. Medina built this add on or whether he purchased the house with the add on started? 00:21:23
That's not really clear. 00:21:32
OK. 00:21:35
We know that. 00:21:37
There was something there. 00:21:39
It was removed and reconstructed or whether it. 00:21:41
Added. 00:21:46
I couldn't say for sure. I'd say that a lot of our rural communities have similar things that have been done over the years. 00:21:48
Because they're isolated and people have a tendency to do that, which is never recommended. 00:21:56
We need to go through the permit process and this is the problem that we need to resolve. But today we're talking about the flood 00:22:02
issue, the variance. 00:22:05
And I printed out a map and gave to you and it seems like there's properties all around this house that are even closer to the 00:22:09
river. So I can imagine that there's a number of people in the neighborhood that would be within the floodplain non compliant 00:22:15
already. So what we're really doing is we're saying there's an addition onto a non compliant property. Do we allow the addition 00:22:20
or? 00:22:26
Not and so that to me is the question. 00:22:31
I don't think it's going to put our flood insurance program at risk doing this one variance. I think if we were reckless with it, 00:22:36
yeah, maybe it would. 00:22:39
That's all I have to say about that anymore. Supervisor Humphrey? Yeah, Mr. Chair, I'll make a comment now. I had no questions, 00:22:45
but now I have a comment. 00:22:49
Decisions we make are going to set precedence as things go forward. 00:22:54
And if we have places that are grandfathered in, then we can't change the grandfather. 00:22:59
Of those that are. 00:23:04
But going forward, we can set precedence of building without a permit. 00:23:07
And not building to flood elevations. 00:23:12
And so if. 00:23:15
If like you say with the map with other homes in this area that are closer to the Creek. 00:23:17
That may or may not be in the flood. 00:23:22
But if they are, they're grandfathered in and so be. 00:23:25
But if we. 00:23:30
Allow for a non permitted N floodplain structure. 00:23:32
Then we're setting precedence, so get ready. 00:23:40
For anybody that lives by a Greek grandfathered. 00:23:43
That wants to build a. 00:23:47
However they. 00:23:49
Because we have the ability to change it. 00:23:52
And we did it. 00:23:55
So we're going to be expected. 00:23:57
To have individual variances come up. 00:23:59
In the future. 00:24:03
And that's my comment, Mr. Chair. So thank you. 00:24:06
What Dart, I did ask you this, this, these folks would have to go back and and and get it permitted, right? That that would be the 00:24:12
deal. 00:24:16
I mean, the floodplain is one thing, the permit is another. And and it's not that I don't disagree with Mr. Humphrey on this. 00:24:22
But if if they were made to go ahead and permit this, build it per. 00:24:30
The building permit owed whatever standards. 00:24:35
Then all we're talking about. 00:24:39
The variance for the floodplain. 00:24:42
Correct. OK. 00:24:46
The thing with me is we have a project that's already started. I don't know if Mr. Medina started. 00:24:53
And I know that doesn't meet the hardship thing at all. So with is there any other comments? 00:24:58
Jessica, do you have anything that we should be aware of? 00:25:06
If you're deliberating. 00:25:18
The thought crossed my mind that this. 00:25:21
National Flood Insurance program. 00:25:25
That we have. 00:25:29
Exists because there's really no market for. 00:25:31
Flood insurance without it. So if you didn't have a National Flood Insurance program. 00:25:36
That means that no one who's. 00:25:40
Certain flood areas could ever get any insurance. 00:25:43
People would not be build. 00:25:46
Where? 00:25:48
Because they couldn't get any ins. 00:25:50
And the market would take care of this situation you? 00:25:52
We wouldn't. 00:25:55
People asking for variances because they just wouldn't be able to get insurance period over to ask for. 00:25:56
So the government stepped in. 00:26:02
With no market and created. 00:26:05
By establishing the flood insurance program and enabling. 00:26:09
People to build within certain areas and flood areas. 00:26:14
Notwithstanding the fact they are in those areas, they can still get ins. 00:26:18
If the counties have an Ord. 00:26:23
That they It's an ordinance that passes muster with federal government and the county is enforcing. 00:26:26
Basically, then, the county qualifies for a reduced rate in the flight insurance program. 00:26:35
So what's happening today, for example, is somebody's asking for a variance. 00:26:42
And all the people who are potentially affected, which is lots of other people whose insurance rates may go up. 00:26:48
Aren't here, don't know about it, have no idea that their interests are at stake. 00:26:55
I don't even know this is going. 00:26:59
And so this one action they have no effect. 00:27:02
But at some point in time. 00:27:07
You know the county takes allows enough variances. 00:27:10
Then it could trigger an increased rate for everybody. 00:27:15
And it's been that whole situation has been set up. 00:27:18
Sequence of variances that have occurred and now the federal government's decided the people in charge of this I hope. 00:27:23
The county is not complying sufficiently with the. 00:27:30
What a plan management ordinance and. 00:27:34
Not Subsid. 00:27:37
Give them these benefits of rates anymore, Now everybody gets affect. 00:27:39
So it's a it's one of those government things where? 00:27:43
The people who may let it be. 00:27:47
Don't know about it, as I said. 00:27:50
Protect their interests. 00:27:54
So it's the nature of this program. 00:27:56
Created artificial. 00:28:01
Markets allowing people to get insurance and building certain. 00:28:03
I didn't get that ordered that but my insurance program right now you can fix that for me, but that's the way I understand it 00:28:09
works. 00:28:12
Thank you, Mr. Dalton, Mr. Menlo. 00:28:17
Mr. Chairman Members. 00:28:20
From your comments, it brought a question to my mind. 00:28:22
Of a Jessica reject me to answer that is could a motion be made that the? 00:28:26
Can be. 00:28:31
Conditional on a building. 00:28:33
Being obtained and that the addition is built according to building codes. 00:28:36
Got a possibility? 00:28:42
Six point. 00:28:48
2 East says, upon consideration of the factors. 00:28:50
Of section 6.2 D and the purposes of this ordinance. 00:28:56
Floodplain board may attach such conditions to the granting of variances as it deems necessary. 00:29:00
Further the purposes of this ordinance. 00:29:06
So that answered, yes, the board can attach cond. 00:29:08
OK. Thank you. 00:29:15
Does this require a unanimous vote if we vote to? 00:29:17
Not that I'm aware of, OK. 00:29:23
If there's no further discussion, then I'll call for a motion. 00:29:25
If I'm making a motion, Mr. Chair. 00:29:33
I make a motion to deny a request submitted by Mr. Steve Medina for your variance from the requirements of Heila County Flood. 00:29:35
Or management ordinance for the room addition to the manufactured home at One O 7 S Cottonwood in Visalia, which was built without 00:29:45
a permit and is not in compliance with the ordinance. 00:29:51
Mr. Chair, I'll second that and then we'll go with the vote. Thank you, Supervisor. We have a motion and a second to deny. 00:30:00
The variance, all those in favor of that say. 00:30:08
Aye, aye. All those opposed, aye. 00:30:12
Thank you. Thank you, Doug. 00:30:18
Thank you, Jonathan. Does not pass, our variance doesn't. I will make a motion now need a motion to adjourn as the Board of 00:30:20
Directors of the Hill County Flood Control District reconvene as the Board of Supervisors. I'll make some move, Mr. Chair. 00:30:27
I'll second all those in favor. Say aye, aye. 00:30:34
Thank you, Item 2A, Information Discussion Action to authorize payment of maintenance fees to Motorola Solutions Incorporated for 00:30:38
two quar. 00:30:42
Of 2023 in the amount of $62,261.36 and for four quarters of 2020 four $33,309.82 per quarter for a total cost of $133,239.28 per 00:30:47
year for a grant total of $195,500.64, which will allow Motorola Solutions, Inc to continue providing maintenance and updates to 00:30:57
the Spillman software program utilized. 00:31:08
Are the Gila County Sheriff's Office for its records and management system. Good morning, Sarah. Good morning, chairman, members 00:31:19
of the board. 00:31:22
This is our Spillman system. That's what we've known it for for years. It was purchased a few years back by Motorola, and that's 00:31:27
when the name change happened. This runs pretty much every aspect of the record system in the Sheriff's Office. 00:31:35
And this is for maintenance fees to continue. 00:31:43
On with them and servicing and giving us updates and patching and that type of thing. 00:31:49
Umm you are approving two quarters for 2023 that need to be paid to them and then all four quarters for 2024? 00:31:55
With that, I'll take any questions. Thank you, Sarah. Supervisor Humphrey, I have no question, Mr. Chair. 00:32:04
So, Sarah, you guys have had this since 9999? Yeah. OK. 00:32:11
Cool. Thanks. You're welcome. We had a catastrophic records failure back then and that's when the board approved for us to go to a 00:32:16
records management system. And so that was in 99 and we have not had any issues since then. 00:32:24
Great. Thanks, Sarah with our call for motion. 00:32:34
Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to authorize a payment of the maintenance fees to Motorola Motorola Solutions Incorporated as 00:32:37
presented. 00:32:41
I'll second that motion in a second to approve those in favor. Say aye. Aye. Thank you, Sarah. 00:32:45
Item 2C. Information Discussion and action to approve the Use of Arizona State contract number Ctr. 063770 with Iron Mountain 00:32:52
Information Management, LLC in the amount of $114,172.95 through June 30th, 2024 for the digitization of the assessors parcel 00:33:00
records Micah. 00:33:07
Good morning, Chairman, Christensen Supervisors. 00:33:15
The Assessors office currently maintains parcel records, maps, and the historical value information and paper format. While the 00:33:19
system has served well served us well for over over the years, it poses a significant risk due to the lack of a backup. Our paper 00:33:26
records contain valuable historical title chain information, maps and property valuation data. However, without digitization, 00:33:34
there is no safeguard against potential potential losses due to fire, accidents or other unforeseen events. 00:33:42
Staff in the Payson office often need to access this information. Currently, they must contact the Globe office and request 00:33:49
specific partial records, causing delays and inefficiencies. 00:33:55
The solution would be the digitization, which we propose digitizing all accessories office records. This would involve scanning 00:34:01
and organizing the existing paper files into a secure digital database. Benefits would include digitization that ensures our 00:34:09
valuable historical information is backed up electronically, reducing the risk of permanent loss staffing. Both the Globe and 00:34:17
Payson Office can directly access the records without unnecessary delays. 00:34:24
And in the event of a fire or another emergency, the digital copies will remain. 00:34:32
There is a second contract that will be forthcoming that is for the. 00:34:39
Packaging, prep, transportation and destruction of those files once they've been digitally. 00:34:44
Digitized. So there will be another contract that is forthcoming, but it's I believe its value is 7141 thousand $7142 and it's not 00:34:51
finalized yet, but that will be part of the same digitization project. I just want to make you aware that there will be another 00:34:59
coming contract related to this. 00:35:06
I can take any questions you may. 00:35:15
Thank you, Mike. Supervisor Humphrey, hi. I have no questions. I just think it's great that we're getting digitized to help. 00:35:17
Access the files that we have. 00:35:25
Ever. And for public access as well. 00:35:28
Other than that, I have no comment. Thank you. I'll supervise the client. Micah, thanks. I agree with super supervisor Humphrey 00:35:32
this, this is good and make life a lot easier for a lot of people. Absolutely. It's sort of like we're entering the. 00:35:38
20th century and maybe even more. 00:35:45
So is this ARPA money? Yes. OK, great. Chairman. Yes, yes. I just wanted to notate for the record that there is a document on the 00:35:48
attachments. It's a single source justification. Now that is for the 2nd portion that he's mentioning, it is not relevant to this 00:35:56
agenda item, So just to be presented at a later date, correct. OK. So we're not, we're only approving this 114,000. Yes, this is a 00:36:04
rising out of a state contract. So we don't need a single source justification for a procurement purposes. 00:36:12
Thank you, Jessica. 00:36:21
OK, with that, I'll entertain a motion. 00:36:23
Mr. Move to approve the use of Arizona State contract number Ctr. 063770 with Iron Mountain information. 00:36:26
Management LLC as presented. And I'll second that Mr. Chair. Thank you. Motion to accept and seconded. All those in favor. Say 00:36:35
aye. Aye. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, Carrie. 00:36:41
Item 2D Information Discussion Action to approve amendment number one to Professional services Contract number 081723 with. 00:36:50
Elections systems and software in the amount of $52,520.66 which extends the term of the contract for one additional year from 00:36:59
year from April. 00:37:05
2024 through April 17, 2020. 00:37:12
Mr. 00:37:16
Mr. Chairman, sorry for. 00:37:18
Mr. Mariscal is busy. 00:37:21
Preparing for the president presidential preference election which is coming up real quick And there's he's working to ensure. 00:37:24
That all the poll workers are trained and Adequate asked if he could be excused. 00:37:33
And asked if I would present this item to you. 00:37:38
On October 3rd, 2023, the Board of Supervisors approved Professional Services Contract number 081723 with Elections Systems. 00:37:43
And software for election service. 00:37:51
And maintenance for the period beginning April 18, 2023 through April 17, 2024 with three one year renewal options. 00:37:53
The original contract was executed for not to exceed amount without written authorization amount of $52,520.66. 00:38:03
Elections systems and software partners with the. 00:38:13
With the Department of Homeland. 00:38:17
And is certified with the US Election System Commission. 00:38:20
Election systems and software is the provider of our existing equipment. Ongoing maintenance and service are necessary. 00:38:25
To remain in compliance with relevant regulations. 00:38:33
He, the county elections department director, recommends the approval of Amendment #1 to the professional services contract number 00:38:38
081723. 00:38:42
With election systems and software to extend the term contract for the additional year. 00:38:46
From April 18, 2024 through April 17, 2020, 2025. 00:38:52
For a total contract amount not to exceed $52,520.66. 00:38:58
This is. 00:39:06
Ensures that helps to ensure the integrity of our elections and would ask. 00:39:08
For your approval of this contract extension. 00:39:13
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Supervisor. 00:39:16
I have no questions, Supervisor Klein. I'm good. 00:39:19
I'm good as well. We're not changing vendors. We're not changing machines. We're not changing our profit. 00:39:23
You know, I'm saying that because we've discussed heavily the process and all that's involved. This is one of those components, 00:39:29
right? There's many concerned about it. So OK, with that, I will entertain a motion. 00:39:35
Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve Amendment number one to Professional Services Contract number 081723 with election 00:39:41
Systems and software as presented. 00:39:46
Mr. Chair, I'll second that. Hey, we have a motion or a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye, aye, aye, aye. 00:39:52
Thank you, James. Item 2. 00:39:59
Information Discussion Action to adopt Resolution #24-03-01 Accepting 2 drainage easements. 00:40:02
One from Dean A and Ruth A Jasinski and one from Steven Aladhill. Alex, good morning. Good morning Mr. Chairman Board as you know 00:40:10
when engineering project comes up the engine. 00:40:18
Determines what kind of easements are required to complete the project. 00:40:26
This is the acceptance or acceptance of this. 00:40:30
Adoption of this resolution the acceptance of the two drainage easements that would be required for the Walnut Springs Cold 00:40:35
replacement project. 00:40:38
And so as you know, it took us quite a while to get these easements. And so now we're bringing them before the board for your 00:40:44
acceptance. Thank you, Alex. Supervisor Humphrey. 00:40:48
Yeah, no, it's great to have it here. We've been working on this project for a long, long time. 00:40:53
And the easement is what has jeopardized us from routing water that we have very much needed to. 00:40:58
So thank you very much for your persistence and for obtaining these easements for us. 00:41:05
Advisor Klein. I'm good. Thank you, Alex. Yeah, thank you, Alex. Without our call for motion, I moved to adopt Resolution 00:41:12
#24-O3-01. 00:41:16
I'll second that. 00:41:23
Of a motion and a second to approve those in favor, say aye, aye. 00:41:24
Thank you, Alex. Number 2F information discussion action to review the bids submitted for invitation for bid number 112023, the 00:41:29
Walnut Springs Blvd. Covert Replacement Award to the lowest, most responsive, responsible and qualified bidder and authorized the 00:41:35
Chairman signature on the award contract. 00:41:41
Thank you. So as we just accepted the drainage easements, the next thing would be to bring before you the request to award the bid 00:41:48
for the project itself. As you know, last month we presented this and you guys gave us the permission to advertise. We received 5 00:41:56
bids. When they came back, we reviewed the bids. 00:42:05
And this bid came in at. 00:42:14
$384,093.84 which exceeds the engineer's estimate of 3600 and. 00:42:17
300 Three $167,805.82 By roughly 17,000 However, we felt that this bid, while it was within the range of the engineer's estimate, 00:42:25
was the most capable and met all of the requirements needed for a construction project in County. 00:42:34
OK. Thank you, Alex. Supervisor Humphrey. No, I'm, I'm all good. Thank you. Supervisor Klein, I'm good as well. Yeah, I only have 00:42:45
one comment I guess the low bid 384,000 and. 00:42:51
In the high bid 1.14 million. 00:42:58
It's like 3. 00:43:01
That that's astonishing to me, that. 00:43:03
Then the other three bids were writing between. So it yeah, we. 00:43:07
A variety of bits, yes. OK with that I will accept a motion. 00:43:12
Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to award contract number 112023. 00:43:17
To HT form an amount of $384,093.84. 00:43:23
In response to imitation for bids number 11202. 00:43:29
Mr. Carroll, second that thank you. Motion to approve and seconded those in favor. Say aye, aye. Thank you, Alex. Thank you. 00:43:34
Item 2G Information Discussion Action to Consider Select one of the following three proposed projects to support in partnership 00:43:44
with SRP Picopino Fuels Reduction Project, Egler Creek Phase One Mastication Project or South Pace in Phase One Mastication 00:43:51
Project Carl Milford. 00:43:58
Good morning, Chairman, Members of the Board, happy to be here so. 00:44:06
On February 7th of 2023, Gila County went into an Mou with the Salt River Project. 00:44:11
To support these fields. 00:44:18
Fuels reduction projects here he would county committed $5000 and that Mou. It also says that we will provide input on which of 00:44:20
the projects to. 00:44:25
And that is why we're here today. So I have three projects to show to you guys. The first one is the Pico Pinot Fuels Reductions 00:44:31
project. 00:44:35
This is a floor spinning project that covers 718 acres of Ponderosa pine forest. 00:44:40
This will be removing an overabundance of small diameter Ponderosa pine, Emery oak, Arizona white oak, and alligator Jupiter 00:44:48
Jupiter Juniper Words are hard. Sorry. 00:44:54
So the estimated cost of this project is $574,000, keeping in mind that we have committed $5000, so the estimated. 00:45:00
Cost is not a direct cost to heal the county. Our commitment was the $5000. 00:45:11
The next project is the Hagler Creek Phase One Mastication Project. 00:45:17
This project is located 20 miles east of Payson. It covers 1687 acres of ponderosa pine and juniper woodland. 00:45:22
Estimated cost of this project is about $1.3 million. 00:45:33
And this is. 00:45:38
Significantly larger project than the last one. 00:45:42
Again, this project is mastication instead of thinning, so it's obviously the much higher price point and it's taking a lot more 00:45:46
of that vegetation out. 00:45:50
And the final project to choose from. 00:45:55
Is the South Pace and Phase One Mastication project? 00:45:58
This project covers 2229 acres of ponderosa pine and juniper woodland. 00:46:02
This is just South of Payson UM. 00:46:10
7 miles South of patient would be exact. The estimated cost on this project is $1.9 million. 00:46:16
I wrote in there that. 00:46:23
Our preference, and I'll explain to you why in a recent visit with. 00:46:26
Our State Emergency Management. 00:46:30
He ended the visit by asking what is the emergency? 00:46:33
Keeps you from sleeping at night. 00:46:36
And I told him that the majority of our wildfire starts or roadside starts and you're driven by southwest prevailing winds into 00:46:38
the northeast. 00:46:41
And Hwy. 87 presents a huge risk to patient being that it is a northeast climb. 00:46:45
Increases in. 00:46:52
And a lot of those areas have not burned in a very long time. This is a huge mitigation project towards. 00:46:54
Taking care of that. 00:47:01
So that is why this is the. 00:47:04
Project from the Emergency Management perspective. Of course this is a board decision, not mine. I just wanted to provide my 00:47:08
input. 00:47:11
Also it is the highest dollar amount, so the highest return on investment for dealer counties portion of the investment. 00:47:16
Just to give kind of a perspective of what these projects look like size wise, you can see all three here, the Hagler project. 00:47:23
On the far right. 00:47:33
South Pace and Phase one just there below patient and up in the top left corner, the Poco Pinot project. 00:47:35
Mr. Harbors from SRP have anything else to add. I think that pretty much covers it. So we have three projects to choose from. 00:47:42
Thank you, Carl, Supervisor Humphrey. 00:47:50
I respect your professionalism and for your experience. 00:47:54
Fires. And so I have to agree with your bang for buck. 00:47:59
Thank you. Surprise. 00:48:06
Actually, most of these are in your district. 00:48:09
Rooms in mine, and I'd be interested to hear what you have to say between those two projects in your district. 00:48:12
Oh, OK. Well, so Carl, these are all fully funded projects, right? So they're in the process of being funded. So and we're talking 00:48:19
specific. 00:48:24
Pico pinot. 00:48:32
And. 00:48:34
South facing right so pic. 00:48:35
The estimated cost is 574,000. They're currently sitting at 498,000 towards that project. Some other partners involved in that I 00:48:38
believe. 00:48:42
But this one is DF FM and for service, right? Yeah, So the FM Forest Service also has stake in that, so they'll be contributing as 00:48:50
well. 00:48:54
With the South Area S payment area phase. 00:48:59
Estimated cost is 1.9 million and the funding received is 1.6, so there's a larger price margin there towards making enough money 00:49:03
to to complete that project but percentage wise. 00:49:10
300,000 away from fully funded. 00:49:16
It looks to me I I can't tell on the smaller map that I'm looking at here where everything is, but on that one I can sort of see 00:49:20
it sort of in what I call the Cypress thicket area from lie over to the matter South. 00:49:26
If if I, you know it looks like it's. 00:49:35
Waste of. 00:49:38
On West of Hwy. 87. 00:49:41
So it's SE. So coming up into Payson. 00:49:44
Pretty much on the left hand side of 87 when you're coming in. 00:49:49
Oh, I'm sorry. Southwest. Yes. OK, I'll get you a compass for Chris. I need more caffeine, is what it is. 00:49:53
OK. So that the confusion there was the wind, the prevailing winds out of the southwest, Yes. OK, right. Yeah and correct. So 00:50:05
that's an ideal spot. 00:50:09
My thoughts on it would be that. 00:50:13
I would prioritize that because. 00:50:16
It also would then protect the most people within. 00:50:19
Of the three projects, although Poco Pino would be my second. 00:50:24
But I think all the products are going to get done. 00:50:29
That that would be my. 00:50:34
Anything else, Supervisor Humphrey? 00:50:36
Fine, so is. 00:50:38
Right. All these projects are going to go, I mean. 00:50:41
We're just looking to partner with one, but all three of them are gonna go. 00:50:44
Good morning. Who are you? I'm Levi. Pardon, I am the Water and Forces Females Building Manager for Salt River Project. Thank you 00:50:50
for having us today. Yes, all three projects. We are committed to working on today's discussion really. 00:50:57
Just which 1K county is interested in partnering with us? 00:51:04
Thank you. Thank you. Are all three of you from SRP. Well, thanks for coming today. 00:51:08
Thanks so much for doing. 00:51:14
5000 doesn't seem like much. I guess that's what we've budgeted for this, but. 00:51:17
OK. Anything else? 00:51:22
No. OK, then with that, I'll call. 00:51:23
Mr. Chair, I want to support this outpatient phase one mastication project and partnership with Salt River Project. Mr. Chair, 00:51:26
I'll 2nd that I have a motion and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye, aye. 00:51:33
Motion passes. Thank you, Carl. Thank you. Is that another 1-2 H information discussion? Action to adopt the Arizona Mutual Aid 00:51:41
Compact is recommended by the Arizona Department of Emergency Management. 00:51:47
Thank you ladies for. 00:51:54
Appreciate it. So the Arizona Mutual Aid Compact is an agreement that he would County signed on to about five years ago. 00:51:56
This has been rewritten so the Mutual Aid Compact is kind of a way for Emergency Management departments and government 00:52:04
organizations to help each other out throughout the state of Arizona without individual MO us between governmental organizations. 00:52:10
And I think the best way to explain this is to give a couple case of examples of when this was used. 00:52:17
When I first started with. 00:52:24
Mutual Aid Compact was in place and I was able to gain some experience by deploying to EOC's throughout the state. 00:52:26
To play a role and support their emergency operations centers on multiple occasions, including the Penal Fire and the Telegraph 00:52:32
Fire, we've actually used the feature a compact to bring in other Emergency Management employees from outside of Gila County into 00:52:37
REOC. 00:52:42
A prime example of that is during the Telegraph Fire was a backbone fire kicked off and we had. 00:52:47
A much larger area of concern for the emergency operations. 00:52:53
I brought in Katrina Jenkins, who is the Navajo County Emergency manager. 00:52:58
We split our operations into half. We had southern operations in northern operations, Justin was our southern operations Chief and 00:53:02
Katrina was our northern operations chief. 00:53:06
And we can do this without. So it's it's basically a way that I can call them without a cost of. 00:53:12
Each deployed personnel, their organization covers the cost of their travel unless indicated otherwise by that. 00:53:19
We have seen situations where other counties would, you know, purchase bulk hotels or something for staff that are coming in, but 00:53:27
it kind of cuts through a lot of that red tape and allows us to help each other out. Another good example from the Telegraph Fire. 00:53:34
We were able to secure. 00:53:41
Borrow. 00:53:44
A sandbagger prior to our sandbagger arriving. So that's how the vast majority of the sandbags got built in preparation for the 00:53:47
post fire flooding was to borrowed equipment using the Arizona Mutual Aid contact. 00:53:53
So this is just a revised version of that. This goes out to all of the counties in Arizona as well as the tribal nations and the 00:53:59
municipalities. So signing on to this mutual aid compact allows us that ability to work with our partner organizations and share 00:54:05
resources. 00:54:10
Thank you. Call Supervisor Humphrey. 00:54:17
I have no questions, supervisor. 00:54:19
I like it, Carl. So thank you. 00:54:22
I don't like it anything that reduces our risk and improves our emergency response. So I made it through without confusing my 00:54:25
directions this time, which is. 00:54:29
I forget she accomplished. 00:54:33
I'll take it right. Thanks, Carl. With that, I'll. 00:54:36
Entertain a motion, Mr. Chair. I'll make the motion to adopt Arizona Mutual Aid Compact. 00:54:40
Mr. Farrell second motion in the second to approve those in favor say aye aye aye aye motion passes item Thank you Carl item two I 00:54:46
Information discussion action to review the bids submitted for invitation for bids I have be number 11302313. Various models of 00:54:54
new Ford vehicles award to the lowest most respons. 00:55:02
Responsible and qualified getter and authorized the chairman signature on the award contract. Mr. Laforge, Chairman, Members of 00:55:11
the board. 00:55:16
So today I'm here to seek approval to award the contract to purchase these 13 new vehicles for Gila County fleet. 00:55:21
This is in response to the invitation for bids we conducted in early January. 00:55:28
Where we advertised and went out to bid for these 13 vehicles. 00:55:32
Two bids were received and reviewed, with Santan Ford meeting all the bid specifications and offering the lowest bid. 00:55:36
Of these 13 vehicles that we're requesting, seven of them will be used for motor pool usage, five in the TCM complex. 00:55:44
Up and pasting one at Central Heights here in Globe and one at the Copper Building here in Globe. 00:55:53
And then four of the vehicles will be for BOS administrative services. 00:55:59
And two for facilities. 00:56:03
Out of these 13 vehicles we're requesting. 00:56:06
Out of the vehicles we're replacing with these 13, some of them will be turned in and prepped for auction. 00:56:10
And in some cases, some of them will be trickled down into other departments to replace older, aging vehicles. 00:56:16
To which they will turn in theirs and will be kept for. 00:56:24
So for each vehicle we're purchasing one and in some cases two vehicles will be turned in and added to future auction as to 00:56:29
prevent increasing the size of the fleet. 00:56:33
In total we have 15 vehicles that we'd like to turn in in exchange for these 13. 00:56:38
If there's any questions, I'll take any questions. 00:56:45
Thank you, David Supervisor Humphrey. 00:56:49
Yeah. One, you said you're trading in some vehicles. 00:56:52
We're just turning them into the fleet and then we'll prep them and send them to auction. That's what I meant. 00:56:56
OK. And and another question that sometime at some point in time, I would maybe like to know the difference if we're going to buy 00:57:02
13 vehicles with bid specifications. 00:57:08
I was just wondering if perhaps Dodge, Chevy, GMC or whomever? 00:57:14
What the price difference would be? Because it seems we always go out for Fords and I'm I'm not against Fords, I drive one, but I 00:57:20
also drive a dodge. But I'm just wondering, beings, we are overseers of tax monies. 00:57:26
What different bid we could get with the same specification? Yeah, no problem. I've actually already started working on getting 00:57:33
numbers like that so. 00:57:38
Whenever we can have a workshop meeting, yeah, I'd be good for that. That's fine. I appreciate. 00:57:42
Supervisor Klein David, thank you for putting this together. So San Tan Ford is the one that looks like it's going to get it. But 00:57:50
did did our local outfits here come anywhere close? I have only received two beds, one from San Tan and the other one I've never 00:57:57
even heard of. I don't even know where they came from, and they were kind of wildly overpriced. 00:58:03
As far as I understand we sent it out to 10 different. 00:58:12
Dealership, right? So sometimes they don't get back in a timely manner or they choose not to even submit a bid, so I'm not sure. 00:58:15
OK. But our, our local dealerships did get, they should have been. 00:58:24
Because I always always include a list of, you know, these are the ones we've done business with the past, sure. And they should 00:58:29
be included. And I always include the local dealerships. Yeah. Thank you, David. 00:58:33
Mr. Romero, did you move forward for? 00:58:40
Just to support a little bit about what Dave is doing with the vehicles, this was actually going for this. This was not a state 00:58:43
contract. So we opened it up to anybody and everybody and actually we've got our bid from. 00:58:48
Like an international firm. So next time we're going to structure who can bid and where the vehicles can come from etcetera. Turns 00:58:54
out Cantan with low cost anyway. So we didn't have to consider that international firm Also Dave is already working on making us a 00:59:00
preferred vendor. 00:59:06
A fleet, A fleet vendor with with with Chevrolet. 00:59:14
And we're going to follow up on that process so that we make sure that if if we want to use a single. 00:59:18
Type of manufacturer like Ford that it is within the realm of cost competitive versus the others. So that that's that work is 00:59:25
ongoing. 00:59:30
OK. Thank you. So just one for my own information. So we do buy a lot of Fords and I'm a Ford guy, I like Ford. 00:59:35
And there is the idea that, OK, the value is 1 brand as valuable as the other and why is the price different? But in focusing on 00:59:44
one brand, is it more advantageous for us as Gila County to maintain one brand over? 00:59:52
Say multiple brands, I believe so. I have done some fleet management training. I've been to some fleet management conferences. 00:59:59
And it's typical and it's kind of. 01:00:08
You know, widely used where you standardize your fleet. The fewer makes and models you have reduces the amount of stock you have 01:00:12
to have, the amount of specialized tools you need. 01:00:18
Amount of specialized training you need. So kind of by standardizing your fleet and having. 01:00:24
Fewer makes and models. It does help. 01:00:30
Cutting down the cost of training tools and like I said and you don't have as big of an overhead of stock. So that's one reason 01:00:33
why we've kind of. 01:00:38
Gone this direction. 01:00:42
OK. Thank you, David. With that, I'll call for motion. 01:00:44
Next year I'm out to award contract number 113023 to Santan Fork in the amount of $626,356.49 in response. 01:00:48
Invitation for bit number 113023, Mr. Chair. I'll second that motion to prove. And second, all those in favor. Say aye. Aye. Thank 01:01:03
you, David. Thank you. 01:01:09
Item 2 J Information Discussion Action to authorize the Public Health and Community Services Department. 01:01:16
To submit a grant application to the Arizona Department of Housing for housing insecurity flex funding in the amount of $240,000. 01:01:23
We have Joshua Good Morning, Chairman, members of the board. So a lot of grants come across our desk, especially as I'm starting 01:01:29
to get to know community services. One of the things we're looking for with the lower admin pieces, grants that help us do more of 01:01:35
what we're already doing. 01:01:41
So we came across this grant, Mister Man Love Sent it to us is from the Arizona Department of Housing. And it really allows us a 01:01:48
lot of flexibility around things that we're already doing with our staff. And that is like rental assistance, paying deposits, 01:01:53
getting help people transfer from one location to another, start up costs for jobs, job relocation, those kind of things. So there 01:01:59
are things that we're already kind of doing, which means we can do this without extra staffing so we can kind of put all of this 01:02:05
money into. 01:02:11
Haley County and the residents and do it without needing to have additional staff or those type of things. 01:02:18
For your approval. 01:02:54
Thank you, Joshua supervisor. 01:02:55
I have no questions. I just appreciate all the all the reaching that you do for the grant and the help. 01:02:58
Surprise the client. Thank you, Mr. Chair Josh. So this is a good deal, but you said it would help like 20 people roughly. 01:03:06
For two years or 20 people a month for two years, so we can. 01:03:14
What kind of a demand do you guys have? 01:03:18
For helping people, I mean, what kind of numbers do you guys deal with? You know, and I don't know, but. 01:03:22
What I've talked to from our finance division is that we were really sitting really well all through the COVID time when the 01:03:30
funding was a little larger and now what's happened is a lot of those funding programs and things for the people with lower 01:03:35
socioeconomic income. 01:03:40
Has kind of gone away and dried up and starting this January, we've seen like a two 300% increase. 01:03:46
And people coming to us for services. So I guess the amounts changed a lot lately, but when we see hundreds of clients. 01:03:51
OK. So these kind of funds and I think that's where it helps, is one thing we've talked about in the work session where we really 01:03:59
community service is really piece meal, lots of little grants to go together that where you use a little bit from this box to help 01:04:04
a person, you'll use a little bit from a couple other pots to help a person. So you're really looking for these type of grants or 01:04:09
just more money that you can add on to those other funds that aren't coming, but you know they're allowed to be added to those 01:04:14
other funds. 01:04:19
So what you're saying you kind of look for the demand to kind of increase then as we go along here since COVID is shut, shut down. 01:04:25
OK, Thank you, Josh. 01:04:30
Yes, thank you, Josh. The more grants we received, the better we can. 01:04:35
So with that, I will ask for motion, Mr. Chair. I'll make the motion to authorize the Public Health and Community Services 01:04:40
Department to submit a grant application to the Arizona Department of Housing as presented. 01:04:46
Mr. Chair, I'll second the motion, and a second to approve those in favor. Say aye. Aye. Thank you, Josh. And we have another one. 01:04:53
Item 2K Information Discussion Action to Approve Funding Agreement Number. 01:05:02
216-24 Between the Arizona Department of Housing and the Hilo County Community Services Division. Housing services to provide 01:05:06
Southwest Gas Corporation and A. 01:05:12
Weatherization Assistance Program funding the amount of $266,400. 01:05:19
For the period of January 1, 2024 to December 31, 2024. 01:05:26
Chairman, Members of the board. 01:05:32
For a lot of these services that are capped off especially with like Section 8 housing, things like that. But even some of the 01:06:48
other programs and they have multiple lists where hundreds long and they close the list just because we can't get more people on 01:06:53
this. So I mean obviously the need is the need is more than what we have for funding right now. 01:06:58
So I think those. 01:07:07
Keep going. 01:07:10
I don't know if we'll ever get ahead of them. 01:07:12
Never so. 01:07:14
OK. Thank you. Thank you, Josh. With that, I'll call for a motion. 01:07:17
Mr. Chair, I would make the motion to approve Arizona Department of Housing Funding Agreement #216-24AS presented. 01:07:22
I'll second have motion and a second to approve those in favor. Say aye, aye. 01:07:31
Thank you, Joshua. 01:07:37
Item 2L Information Discussion and Action to Approve. 01:07:40
Economic Development Agreement at 02022024 between Gila County, the Hayden Winkelman Little League District #11 in the amount of 01:07:43
$500 which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public. 01:07:50
Mr. Klein, Thank you, Mr. Chair. So this is something I've helped these kids out with all through the two terms I've been on 01:07:58
board, and it's a good thing it it really means a lot to them down there in our corner. 01:08:04
And so I just continued on with it. 01:08:10
Any questions, Supervisor? Hopefully no, I have no questions. Anything for the kids I. 01:08:13
Yes, thank you, Mr. Klein. And with that, I will ask for a motion. 01:08:19
Mr. Chair, I move to approve economic develop. 01:08:27
Agreement number 0222024, which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public. Mr. Cheryl, second that we have a 01:08:31
motion and a second to approve those in favor say aye. 01:08:38
Motion passes 2M. 01:08:46
Information, discussion and action to approve intergovernmental agreement number. 01:08:48
02032024 and Economic development grant between Hill County and Hayden Winkleman Unified School District 41 in the amount of $1500 01:08:53
which supported determined to be for the benefit of the public supervisor client. 01:09:01
Same same basis is helping the kids right there in Winkelman and Hayden. 01:09:09
The scholarship opportunity. 01:09:14
And there's something I've been doing for the last eight years. 01:09:18
Supervisor Humphrey. 01:09:22
I have no questions, neither do I. So with that, I'll call for motion. 01:09:24
Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve intergovernmental agreement. 01:09:29
02/03 2:02. 01:09:33
Which the board has determined to be for the benefit of the public. 01:09:37
Mr. Chair, I'll second that motion, and a second to approve those in favor. Say Aye, Aye, Aye, Aye. And last item 2 N Information 01:09:41
Discussion Action approved an IGA number 2020012024, an Economic Development grant between Hila County and the Town of Winkleman. 01:09:52
In the amount, $11,000 were supported to Germany for the benefit of the public. 01:10:02
Mr. Chair, this is a little bit different. This is in request for a dipper to help the count of Hayden and Winkelman right there. 01:10:07
They're going through a bunch of properties down there and cleaning things up and trying to firewise a bunch. I worked with Homero 01:10:15
on this and we went through and and looked at different sizes, different. 01:10:21
Different makes models everything else and this seems to be the one. 01:10:28
They can use and and be able to use it without any difficulties fairly. 01:10:33
No, like ours. We have one at the landfill. It's a big thing. 01:10:39
Big Chipper. 01:10:42
This isn't that big. It's a lot smaller. 01:10:43
And anyway, I'll take questions and also this will be coming out of constituent fund. 01:10:46
Correct. Mr. Klein, I was going to say that the last three items here that we're discussing. 01:10:54
Are prepared and submitted by each individual supervisor for funds that they have at their discretion. So even though we are all 01:10:59
approving that, it is initiated in this case by Supervisor Klein and on occasion you will also see where we share in those. 01:11:07
Correct project. 01:11:15
With that I will call. 01:11:18
Mr. I moved to approving the government agreement number 020012024. 01:11:20
Which aborted determined to be for the benefit of the public. Mr. Chair, I'll second that. Second to approve those in favor. Say 01:11:27
aye aye. 01:11:31
Thank you very much. And we have consent agenda items 3A. 01:11:37
Through three. 01:11:43
Would Supervisor Humphrey, do you wish to remove one or more of those items to discuss separately? No, Sir. And I'm good today. 01:11:45
Supervisor Client, same question. I'm good as well. I will then call for a motion for the consent agenda. 01:11:53
Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve consent agenda items. 3823 I'll second that OK motion and seconded to approve consent. 01:12:00
All those in favor say aye, aye. 01:12:11
Aye, motion passes. And now we come to portion item number 4, which is a call to the public. Call to the public is held for the 01:12:14
public benefit to allow individuals to address the board of Supervis. 01:12:20
On any issue within the jurisdiction of the Board of Supervisors. 01:12:28
The board members may not discuss items that are not specifically identified on the agenda, therefore pursuing ARS 3840. 01:12:31
431.01 At the conclusion of the open call to the public, individual members of the Board of Supervisors may respond to criticism 01:12:42
made by those who have addressed the Board. 01:12:47
And they may ask staff to review a matter, or may ask that they matter be put on a future agenda for future discussion. 01:12:53
And decision at a future date. Cassandra, do we have anyone on YouTube? 01:13:01
Thank you. And Lisa, do we have anyone present in Payson? 01:13:08
No, Sir. 01:13:12
OK and. 01:13:14
We have two individuals that have submitted here today. 01:13:16
In Globe and our first one is Cindy Hudson, who resides in Pine, wishes to speak on the Vacation Rental Short Term Rental 01:13:20
Ordinance. 01:13:25
I'd like to Cindy if you would please limit your comments to 3 minutes or less. 01:13:30
Thank you. Good morning. 01:13:37
Surprise Humphrey, Supervisor Klein and Chairman Christensen I. 01:13:39
Samantha placed one of these brochures at each year. 01:13:45
Right. Yeah, everyone's got one, right. OK, so everybody knows. I need to say I'm Sydney Hudson and I reside in Pine and I own and 01:13:49
manage the Beeline guest house with my husband Vince. 01:13:54
The Beeline Guest House is in the center of Pine in the retail corridor Hwy. 87. So I'm pretty much here today to represent the 01:14:00
businesses that are along the retail court. There are 65 of them. 01:14:07
And you can see if you open your research to the center. It lists all of our businesses from antique shops to. 01:14:14
Neighborhood markets to ancillary service providers here. 01:14:22
The effect of the ordinance on short term rentals 2023-08 will be to kill every business in time. 01:14:27
The majority of these businesses depend on recreational visitors. 01:14:35
They depend on people coming to. 01:14:40
A lot of times people come up to enjoy our our environment because we have that beautiful corner. 01:14:43
With pine, Rosa, Pines and everything. People come up to go to an art show. People come up to visit relatives and they say this is 01:14:50
great up here, I want to stay here. 01:14:55
We can't lose those because when they're here, when they're staying here, when they're short term rentals, they're going to our 01:15:01
shops, they're eating in our restaurants, they're using our services. 01:15:06
So this ordinance. 01:15:11
Will have the effect of killing short term rentals, which will have the secondary effect of killing businesses in time. 01:15:13
If you look at your brochure, the very front talks about time being a gateway to the Arizona Trail. 01:15:22
And I'm sure a lot of you know about the Arizona Trail. 01:15:30
Piney is basically halfway on the Arizona thrill and so most of the through hikers stay in Pine in our short term rentals. 01:15:34
When they're there, they eat in our restaurants, They buy, they buy supplies at the hardware store, they buy supplies at the local 01:15:41
market. 01:15:45
So they are. 01:15:49
Time. So hotel rentals are supporting pine and I say pine, it's Pine and strawberry. 01:15:51
So it's imperative that we keep what we have. 01:15:56
And not kill the short term rental bus. 01:16:01
For the sake of a few problem bad actors, we understand we need regulation. But they need to be reasonable regulations, not 01:16:04
regulations that will kill our business. 01:16:09
The way this ordinance is. 01:16:14
I couldn't house a single trail. 01:16:17
Because they walk in. 01:16:19
That day I'm arriving in Pine. Today I need a price of state. I'm arriving in Pine tomorrow morning. I need a place to stay. 01:16:22
If I have to background check them 24 hours before, according to this ordinance, I can't host them. I can't let them stay. 01:16:30
That's that's 30% of my business of the window. 01:16:38
So as a short term rent. 01:16:42
We lose. 01:16:44
I know that's my timer, but I will be real quick. But also don't forget on the back of this brochure. 01:16:47
All the festivals. 01:16:54
That occur in time. Every weekend there's something going. 01:16:56
Those those vendors stay in our search room rentals. 01:17:00
Those people that come up from the valley to attend the festival stay in our short term rentals. 01:17:04
So that ordinance has an effect not just on short term rent. 01:17:09
But the entire town of Pine and Strawberry and Young I'm hearing as well. 01:17:13
I don't know that much about Young, but I know about Tiny Strawberry. 01:17:18
Basically, we need to revamp this ordinance. This was This was taken from Scottsdale and Coconino. 01:17:23
We are not Scottsdale. We are not helping, you know, County. We do not have the economic diversity that Scottsdale has. 01:17:30
Or Copenhagen. 01:17:37
So let me just say quickly, this ordinance needs to be revised. 01:17:39
We are have to have a work session scheduled for April 30th to have this discussion. 01:17:44
We certainly are planning to have further discussions on the. 01:17:50
Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Menlov, and thank you Mrs. Hudson. Any any comments that the supervisors would like to make? 01:17:55
Can't. Well, I didn't know if that was criticism or something. Need to defend myself. 01:18:05
Oh. 01:18:11
I don't have any comments. I just look forward to the work. Yes, so. 01:18:14
April 30th, we will be having a work session and have discussions. 01:18:19
On many of the things brought up just here by Mrs. Hudson and I also have another one, and I'm sorry, I can't. 01:18:24
Clearly it's. 01:18:32
Halor. 01:18:35
And you have a Mesa address and you also wish to speak on the short term rental ordinance, please. 3 minutes, please. Yes, thank 01:18:37
you. Thank you so much. Good morning, Chairman and Steam Board members. 01:18:43
Just echoing a lot of the comments that Cindy already made and in support of the short term rentals, my husband and I Bradley 01:18:51
reside primarily in the Mesa area, but do have been blessed with the opportunity to have a second home. 01:19:00
Strawberry Arizona which we purchased in 2019. In 2021 we decided to list it as a short term rental for those times in which we do 01:19:08
not have the opportunity to be up in that area. For folks that Cindy describes, you know that love an opportunity to have a 01:19:18
getaway from the the heat of the of the of the valley or you know enjoy the festivals and and just the the community of the pine. 01:19:28
Strawberry area. 01:19:38
And our short term rentals, not only to do they have they provided the economic benefits that you know, Cindy described in detail, 01:19:39
but also provide me a demand that is not there with the other establishment, you know, lodging and and and whatnot. And while I, I 01:19:47
also understand that there there's always going to be you know bad actors in the mix and being a also a public citizen, I work for 01:19:56
a state agency and have done so for over 28 years. 01:20:04
In a regulatory setting, I understand the need for regulation. I understand the need to evaluate and and and and come to a 01:20:13
consensus and I'm pleased to hear about the work session that is going to be taking place and and so I'm here not only 01:20:20
representing you know Serenity Cabinet as as we athlete unnamed our cabin but the the short term rentals in the area and and hope 01:20:28
to be able to engage in meaningful dialogue and come to some agreement. 01:20:35
Understanding there is a need for regulation, but where can we meet somewhere in the middle and address the the valid and serious 01:20:43
concerns that need to be addressed and and and and and work? 01:20:50
To address the other regulations that perhaps. 01:20:57
Again, we're putting in writing you know, because it was may have been copied from some other ordinances and do not necessarily 01:21:02
apply to the Pine Strawberry districts and and come to some consensus. So again I thank you for the opportunity you know to speak 01:21:09
to you and. 01:21:15
Get to meet you and I did. My husband and I did already send an e-mail on February 25th with the specific regulations that we have 01:21:23
concerns with and also some suggestions, You know, one of the things that I learned being in the regulatory environment. 01:21:31
Won't just come and complain, come with some suggestions and possible solutions that we can have meaningful dialogue. So thank you 01:21:40
so much. Thank you, Mrs. 01:21:44
And I look for a very lively April 30th. 01:21:49
I've been keeping track of all of my emails. 01:21:53
I have yours. 01:21:57
And with that, I will ask if there's anyone. 01:22:00
In Globe in this room now for a call to the public remaining. 01:22:05
OK. Then I will close our call to the public and we'll go to item number 5, which is the Board of Supervisors and the County 01:22:10
Manager. 01:22:14
I may present a brief summary of current events that they're encountering. So Mr. Menlov. 01:22:19
Mr. Chairman last week attended. 01:22:25
A meeting for Discovery County that was held at Bullion Plaza. 01:22:28
And it was looking for input. Where are we standing on cover? Hilla County. 01:22:33
And really great meeting. 01:22:41
We are also there's also a meeting scheduled for patient to get the same input from the public on Discovery Hill County. What 01:22:43
we're doing right, we can prove on that'll be Wednesday, next Wednesday morning at 10 at the Payson Public Library. 01:22:50
Also on Wednesday because because of that meeting that we're having in Payson looking to schedule. 01:22:58
The first meeting of the Beulah County Intergovernmental Public Transportation Authority. 01:23:08
On Wednesday, March 13th at 1:30, from 1:30 to 3:00. 01:23:13
We'll be sending out information to those that are on the board, which is the mayors for. 01:23:21
The six incorporated communities in Gila. 01:23:28
And Supervisor Humphrey is our designated tag representative. 01:23:31
And also all of us, it's on transportation. 01:23:36
Committee for Gila County, so we'll have Supervisor Humphrey chair that meeting. 01:23:40
At 1130 next Wednesday afternoon, but this is to talk about our transportation transit systems in Gila County, the two existing 01:23:44
that we have which are managed by the Town of Miami and the Town of Payson. 01:23:51
To see how we how that is all working and and. 01:24:00
Get the. 01:24:06
TPA going forward. So that's my report, Mr. 01:24:08
Thank you, Jim. See, I look forward to that. 01:24:13
Proceeding Supervisor Humphrey. 01:24:16
Oh yeah, I was on Kiko Open. 01:24:19
On the 4th attended Discover Gila County presentation at the William Plaza. 01:24:24
Attended a District 2 project review. 01:24:31
Attended a Tri-City Sanitation District meeting. 01:24:35
Will hold the Tunnel Basin community meeting this evening at 5:00. 01:24:39
Was that a meeting? 01:24:44
With staff on working on a ribbon cutting for the tunnel bridge, which is. 01:24:46
A great thing that that's getting really close to being finished. 01:24:53
And I just would like to say I have had a lot of emails on. 01:24:57
The short term rentals. 01:25:02
A lot of them say that it's a bad ordinance, but recommendations on. 01:25:05
What could be changed in that ordinance would be beneficial going forward? 01:25:10
That's all I have. Thank you supervisors brother. 01:25:16
So I really don't have anything from last week. 01:25:21
But I too have received a lot of emails and from some of you as well and so. So I really look forward to that work session that's 01:25:24
coming up in April. I pushed for it. 01:25:30
When we voted in the ordinance. So I'm really glad it's going to happen now because there's been a lot of. 01:25:35
Interest. 01:25:43
And so I I do look forward to a lot of clarification and maybe some changes. So anyway. 01:25:46
Other than that, I'm leaving for DC. We're flying out tonight. 01:25:53
I'll be in DC in the morning. We have meetings tomorrow, I think, with Senator Kelly. 01:25:57
And some others. And then Thursday I have a meeting with Senator Congressman Crane. 01:26:04
And I think cinema. 01:26:11
No, OK, trained but. 01:26:14
Thursday night I'll be in the State of the Union address with with Congressman Crane. 01:26:17
And then we'll be coming back Friday, so. 01:26:22
And go from there. 01:26:26
Have fun with. 01:26:28
Thank you. Yeah. I look forward to this state of the Union. 01:26:29
Watch it on the. 01:26:35
Yeah, I normally did have two for 60 years or whatever. 01:26:37
Stay safe back there. So yes, I've been receiving just on the. 01:26:41
I call them the SRT's short now that St. 01:26:46
And I've received a lot of the emails. I'm keeping track of everyone of them. 01:26:51
Copying everyone? 01:26:55
Melissa, my assistant, volunteered to make some kind of a graph chart spreadsheet. 01:26:59
And so she's done that, and that'll be helpful. Make sure everybody gets that when we get closer to the time. 01:27:05
So I think what people should understand is that the Board of Supervisors is interested in hearing from the public. We have those 01:27:11
in support and those that have issues and we want to look at all of that and we are willing to listen to that and respond 01:27:18
appropriately, I hope. And with that, I will say that met with Joseph Dickerson recently updated me on a few of the building 01:27:26
projects. We had a really great conversation. He's a good guy. 01:27:33
Really. One of? 01:27:41
Best people in the county. 01:27:42
We have so many. 01:27:44
And he was on Kmoji yesterday and I was kind of happened to be in the area at the time and so he invited me in and I was there for 01:27:46
maybe 20 or 25 minutes on the program and so it worked out really well. 01:27:52
Hard working, man. Got a lot to do maintaining all of our facilities. 01:28:00
Also had LPC meeting the legislature here in the state has produced quite a number of bills. 01:28:05
And only one is. 01:28:14
Over 1600 bills have been presented, so it's it's it's kind of a battleground all the time. 01:28:17
And so there's nothing really new to report there, but there are bills that are always present that seem to be. 01:28:23
Involving elections or involving. 01:28:30
Water issues, watershed, drainage, all of that stuff. 01:28:34
The one-size-fits-all at the state level will not be compatible with all the variations that we have in this state, so hopefully 01:28:40
we're not going to have A1 size fits. 01:28:45
Ruling at some point when it comes to water or management or resources and all those kind of things. So there's always that 01:28:51
discussion. 01:28:55
And with that I don't have anything else though if there's nothing. 01:28:59
Yeah, I just do a couple of supervisor client. Thank you for representing us in Washington. Appreciate that. You're welcome. 01:29:04
And the Tri-City sanitation needs funding. So you can, I've already heard about it very much and also to most of my emails on 01:29:11
short term rentals have been from the owners of a short term rental, not the residents that live in the community. So also I would 01:29:18
like to hear from the residents and the communities because we have to make decisions and so the more information from both sides 01:29:26
that we can get, the better decisions we're able to make. 01:29:34
Thank you. 01:29:42
Mr. 01:29:44
So I'm sorry that that brought up one thing since you're going to Washington. 01:29:46
The Four Force Restoration Initiative and the Eastern Arizona Counties Organization. 01:29:51
Are concerned about the funding for forest restoration that they're working on with that. So appreciate you to our decline 01:29:57
carrying that message back to Washington of support for pork. Ryan, I know you're very well aware of you attended the meetings and 01:30:05
all that. No, I appreciate that, James. Yeah, it is a concern and so it is 1/4 fries is a project we can't afford to lose And so 01:30:13
it's really important and I I understand that Tri-City sanitation district issues as well so. 01:30:20
So there's some messages we're going to be busy, we've we definitely have the rounds to make, but I know the people back there. 01:30:28
Discussion. 01:30:38
I did have a couple of more things circuit. 01:30:41
One is here here a while back, you know, we our last work session, we were discussing the proposal of different fees and whatnot 01:30:44
for the Veterans Center in Young. 01:30:50
And I have a bad habit of getting on my soapbox, but I did that day as well and I pushed that, You know, as far as veterans are 01:30:57
concerned, I don't want to see adult any money coming from them. 01:31:02
That should be something that they've already paid their price. 01:31:08
But after that conversation, I've had other people call me. 01:31:12
As well concerned over the. 01:31:17
One of them was Representative Marshall. 01:31:20
And and representing Marshall is a veteran himself. 01:31:23
I'll tell you what I passed on to him from my standpoint. 01:31:27
The gifting clause is something that we have to address. It's by statute. We have to live by that. But I pushed on to him that I 01:31:32
would like to see a state legislature push a bill that would exempt the veterans from the gifting clause. 01:31:40
That would give us some rel. 01:31:48
So that we can help these people with without being afraid. 01:31:50
Jessica Really hollering loud. So. So I'm going to continue to push that. 01:31:55
I want to see that. 01:32:02
They're the ones who write the laws they need to fix this. 01:32:04
And in in that that sense. 01:32:08
The other one was is there's been, I guess behind the scenes. 01:32:11
A bunch of discussion on the different fees that are proposed for the fairgrounds. 01:32:17
And and I'm getting the calls now for the last two or three days on like the 4H clubs, things like that, that these kids, you know 01:32:22
we are huge supporters of kids in general. We always have been and I, I. 01:32:29
Totally expect that we always will be. 01:32:37
And so I'm getting those calls now, you know, 4H clubs, whatnot, they they just have a few dollars here and there and as you'll 01:32:40
see, we always try and support them. All three of us have. And so that's another one that that's going to be. 01:32:47
Have to be addressed as well. And so thank you Jessica, for all your advice and everything and hopefully we'll get worked around 01:32:55
that. But those are the phone calls I'm getting. I don't know if either one of you are getting those yet, but if you're not, I 01:33:00
would imagine you are here shortly, so. 01:33:05
Have been in those discussions and have talked to Jessica and Mr. O'Driscoll and. 01:33:12
Moving forward with solutions. 01:33:18
And I and I appreciate Jessica and her attitude to try. 01:33:22
And accommodate what we. 01:33:26
And balance that with the legal process and so as we discuss fees or. 01:33:30
Things that we need. 01:33:36
To know every option possible when it comes to the Veterans Center and some of these other. 01:33:38
Things and I don't want to get in trouble with any gifting clauses, but it certainly seems very subjective from one person to the 01:33:44
next what that actually needs. 01:33:48
Well, the thing of it is, felonies aren't fun, so I've never had one. I'll clarify that, but I don't want one. OK, anybody else 01:33:54
want to confess? 01:33:59
All right, with that, we are adjourned. 01:34:06