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First day of spring, It's the.
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It is what we call the.
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Spring Equinox, right?
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All things being equal.
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That's what it is, March 19th.
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10:00 Let's call this meeting the Board of Supervisors.
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Together this morning and I've asked our sheriff to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, and I believe Supervisor Humphrey will
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lead us in a prayer after that.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Our kind of great Heavenly Father, we think before that many, many blessings.
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Heavenly Father, we ask for Thee to be with us as we speak, to be understood, and as we hear to understand.
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Heavenly Father, we pray for guidance and the decisions that we make.
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To help make the counting.
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A better place for the people who live here and that passed through.
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Heavenly Father, all these things that we.
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Are grateful for and Ashley of. We do so in the name of your son and our Savior Jesus Christ.
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All right.
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Good to see everyone here this morning. Let's get started with.
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Item 2A It's presentation of Hill County general fund financial data.
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As it compares to the fiscal year 2024 he the county budget and fiscal years 20232221 and 20 year to date performance. Good
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morning, Marin. Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Supervisor Humphrey. Good morning, Supervisor Klein. We're here this
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morning with our year to date data through the end of.
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Well, it says January and then it references October and November. So clearly we've got a couple couple typos in this, but this
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really is the end of January 2024.
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And we have a seven month target of 58% of the annual budget.
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At the end of January, our general fund revenues were at 49% of that budget.
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And we're at 1.8 million more than the same time last year.
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The reason we're not at 58% of the annual budget is because of the timing of property taxes which come in, in October and April.
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So we'll be looking for the next couple months to be tracking below that seven month target.
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The areas that are.
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Highlighted in this chart include your salaries and ERS and your operating expenses and then your totals year to date.
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And then your revenues are on the far right hand side.
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So for your general fund expenditures?
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We are seeing that general fund expenditures including encumbrances at January 31st are at 55% of the budget compared to that 58%
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year to date target.
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And those are.
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1,000,008 higher than the prior year and that million eight is composed of.
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Salaries and employee related expenses makes up 1.2 million of that, which is about 2/3.
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And the other third is due to the timing of when bond issue interest and fees were due.
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Over the past three years, so the.
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The variance it's where it should be. It just.
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Look goofy compared to the prior year and that's 548,000 and we will bring you the next update.
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Hopefully a month from now we will have February.
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Maybe March information for you.
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How can I answer any questions? Thank you Marin Supervisor Humphrey. I have no questions. Thank you for your info.
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Thank you. I don't either. Thank you, Mayor. Yeah, I don't have anything great presentation. Thank you. Look forward to.
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The next one as well.
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So let's move on to item 2, the presentation of updated information for the Board of Supervisors.
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February 20.
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20th of 2024 agenda item which was regarding the advertisement of a March 29th, 2024 online auction.
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To public surplus, to sell surplus or obsolete.
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County vehicles.
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Thank you, Mr. Chair, when we presented this item in February.
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We articulated that there would be $150.00 minimum reserve applicable to the final purchase price of any items.
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When we continued working with public surplus, we learned that that caveat was not possible with them.
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So their standard is a $50 reserve, which is refundable, not applicable to the final purchase price. We wanted to bring that to
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you as a clarification. So each bidder will need to place a $50 reserve.
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With public surplus and then after the auction is over, if they have, whether they have purchased anything or not, that $50.00
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will be refunded to them and we wanted to make sure we brought this information to you and make sure that it was available to the
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general public also.
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We also would like to clarify that this information was.
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Put in the advertisements that are in the newspaper and online and we had it in time to update that. We just needed to bring it to
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you this morning.
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OK. But you don't need any action? No, thank you. This is just a presentation. All right. Thank you. Supervisor Humphrey. I, I
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have no questions by the client. Yeah. Good. Thank you very much, Marion. Thank you. OK.
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Let's move on into our regular agenda, items 3A.
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Information, discussion and action.
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Or action to ratify the Board of Supervisors Approval for the Sheriff's Office Electronics in middle of the Fiscal year 2025.
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Drug, Gang and Violent Crime control grant application to the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission. The amount of $862,147.73.
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To renew grant funding that will be used or.
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The salaries and benefits of the Sheriff's Office Drug Gang Violent Crimes Task Force.
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There were this Travis actually.
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Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, on behalf of Sheriff Shepard, I'm here to present our application process
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through the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission.
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For the fiscal year?
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25 for the drug gang of Violent Crimes Task Force.
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We feel that this is a vital part.
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The Sheriff's Office and the law enforcement enforcement actions that we take in Helen County.
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Without this type of funding the type of arrest and.
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Friends that are committed within our jurisdiction.
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Would not be.
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We wouldn't be able to do it. We've had an astonishing year in the number of.
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Outfit and all the rest and.
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Those coincides with exactly what we're saying across the state, the county, as well as the nation and the fentanyl.
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Overdoses and deaths that we're seeing.
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So on behalf of the Sheriff Shepherd, I'd like to request that the board approve the grant for 862,147 thousand and $0.73.
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For the Fiscal Year 25 Drug gang and violent crimes test version.
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Thank you, Supervisor Humphrey.
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Yeah, I just thank you for all you do. And I only have one question is that I I'm just curious, I understand salaries but benefits
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is that for equipment, is that I guess I don't understand what the ERE?
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OK. The medical retirement?
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OK, OK.
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Good enough. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Yeah. Well, yeah, 'cause it.
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Just just checking.
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Supervisor Klein.
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Travis, thank you for everything you guys do and.
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Yells. How many is on your task force now? We had three as of last week and one retired.
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So we're down to two, we're back to two.
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So with our border issues going on to the South of us, have you guys seen an increase in any of the activities or what do you
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think?
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And what comes with drugs? Are you violent crimes?
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We've had an increase in gains. We have a lot of people coming out of prison.
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Who are gang affiliated? And our crimes are just skyrocketing.
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We're doing what we can do with the 20. Absolutely. I I just thought, you know I've I've asked you this question for eight years
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now and.
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You know, and I've always wanted to have us in a position where we could bump your task force.
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Up, and I would greatly appreciate that. And so with the citizens I.
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Can imagine that you know and and and that's been.
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Since a long time ago, but now literally with the with the issues from the border, I was pretty sure that's what was the.
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What you were going to say, you know? And so with that, you know, one thing I'll just throw out there is.
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Is I will be pushing to try and well let me ask you this first.
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Your task force is usually made-up from other agencies around you. Right? Right now it consists of the Sheriff's Office and the
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global Police Department.
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And what about Game and Fish, DPS and the rest of them? Is it because they just don't have the officers to put out there to help
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you or kind of the combination of?
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So what we've done?
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When we can't bring them into the task force because of the funding is so low, then we work together. We work cases. Just last
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week we worked a case with the State Game Task Force.
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And we were successful in the operation. This just goes to show the camaraderie and the collaborations that we do.
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We're doing with the Payson Police Department, DPS, Globe, Miami, even outside the county.
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Thank you, Sir.
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Supervisor climb So we're getting ready to present an item to you guys.
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Here shortly, it's some border security money.
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That's actually being funneled through the Department of Public Safety and to the Sheriff's Office.
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So I'm here in the next, either the next meeting or the next one, you guys will have an opportunity to approve that which is going
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to bring some additional you put in for physicians.
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And vehicles.
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So that's going to bring some additional funding that we're hoping that we can streamline towards.
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Kind of the canine task force those type of.
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Officers to help with this issue so so have some stuff coming.
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That would be really cool, Sarah. So this money is going to go towards the Sheriff's Office in general, but.
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The sheriff is thinking about funneling some of it towards our task force.
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Did the letter to them. We submitted it for 3K9 positions.
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And three K9 vehicles is what we put it in for now. What that's going to allow us to do is either create them.
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Or going to allow us to pay the ones we currently have and then that will free up some positions to maybe possibly move around and
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do some things.
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Again, you know, the Sheriff's Office is short staffed overall for law enforcement in our county. And so where those resources go
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and who were able to hire and what we're able to do is going to determine how we do that. But just so you know, we're always
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actively looking for money because this is such a critical part to our county and this is one thing that is going to come through.
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What we're being told is that this money will hopefully continue.
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To be appropriated at the state legislature level through the Department of Public Safety. So we're hoping this year has spread
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out 500,000, it's about $502,000 and So what we're helping is if that will continue.
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Every year that's on top of this AC JC money, so it should give us the ability to do some different things.
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Sarah saw while you're here, and Travis if and Travis, you know you're sending it to people.
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What kind of additional cost would it take to get other agencies to come in and bump you to like 6 people?
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So what we have is, is everybody is of course it's always about the money, right? And so.
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When we're able to give funding for a position and the ERE.
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That's really what's enticing to people, other agencies, right, Because then there's no cost to them. It's all being paid out of
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the.
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And.
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In order to do that, and I think I.
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Travis, this 862 I think.
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Includes.
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Two outside agency positions plus us, but we have in there and I believe a clerical position.
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So I mean you're looking at just to add 2 to the outside?
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Agencies, it's quite a bit because it's again their salaries, their retirement. Also it depends on, you know, some of their
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retirement can be as high as 56%.
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Right, right. So that's what we're looking at right now. But I just wanted to let you know like we're always looking and this is
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One Ave. that we found.
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The sheriff is obviously dedicated to this, so we could have used that money, you know, anywhere in the agency, but we're really
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trying to get the money funneled to this program and for these.
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I'm officers so.
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So just what for what it's worth, I'd really like to schedule a meeting with you guys and and Mr. Menlov sometime and sit down and
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talk more about this because this is just going to get bad and it will already has So and I'll have all the information for you
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guys. Like I said, I'll be presenting it here in the next couple meetings. So I'll have it all for you and we can sit down and
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really look at the full picture. Thank you. Sarah Travis, thank you for everybody. Thank you. That's working out there. Appreciate
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it.
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Yes, thank you for that. And Travis can ask you a question real quick. So this 862,000, is that more than last year?
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Well, it's it's the amount that we figure with budget through the budget and salary process.
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We always ask for the moon and then we end up getting.
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You know, so usually we're in the vicinity about 300 and 3300 and 40,000 is what we get awarded. OK. All right.
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Thank you. So, Well, if there's nothing else then I'll call for a motion.
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Mr. Chair, I move to ratify the Board of Supervisors approval for the Sheriff's Office, electronics and.
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Of the physical year 2025. Drug, gang and violence.
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And Mr. Chair, I'll second that Second page Crimes and Control Grant Application to the Arizona Criminal Justice.
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Commission as presented. I'll second it again.
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They have a couple motions and seconds there. All those in favor say aye.
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Thank you, Travis. Thank you, Sir.
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OK. Thank you, Sheriff.
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Item 3B. Information discussion and action to approve the use of.
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One Government Procurement Alliance Contract number 2202 EB 18.
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With Sentinel technologies incorporated in the amount of $92,368.54 for the purchase of.
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85 Meraki Mr. 28 Wireless Access Point.
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Appliances with a 10 year license.
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Good morning, Chairman Christensen and Board members. I'd like to request the replacement of all of our wireless access points
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within the county. This upgrade is essential to managing the security on both of our internal and external wireless networks.
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By deploying the new Meraki access points, we can better manage and implement more robust security protocols, aligning ourselves
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with enterprise.
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Best practices. This is part of our capital request for the year. I can answer any questions you may have. Thank you, Terry.
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Supervisor Humphrey.
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I have no questions and the only comment is I think security is really important when it comes to.
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What's going on in our world today?
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So yeah, thank you, Supervisor Klein. So I agree with Supervisor Humphrey.
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Carry, but wireless access, access point appliances? That means what? So your wireless access points are your wireless. They're
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the devices that are.
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In each of the buildings that allows you to connect to the Internet, either internal or external. OK, All right. Thank you for
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that. Oh, you're welcome.
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Yeah. Thank you, Carrie. I appreciate you keeping us up to date. We need to keep our cybersecurity.
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Up to date. So with that, I'll call for a motion. Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve the use of 1 governmental Government
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procurement Alliance Contract number 22002.
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PV-18 with Sentinel Technologies incorporated as presented.
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Mr. Chair, I'll second that. OK, motion. And a second to approve those in favor. Say aye, Aye.
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Thank you.
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Item 3C. Information Discussion Action to adopt revised policy number.
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EOS Dash Fi and 016 Community.
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Agency and Economic development funding. Again, Maryland. Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Supervisor Klein. Good morning,
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Supervisor Humphrey. We brought this item to you at our last work session to discuss.
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As you're aware, there's been an ongoing audit finding for the past six audit years.
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Requesting that we come up with a policy that we follow regarding how economic development funding is awarded and how we document
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that we followed up with those agencies to ensure that the funds are being used correctly.
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Today's policy.
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Takes what our current protocol is and puts it into writing and adopts it for you.
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With the attached policy there is a policy and then.
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Subsequent to Chairman's signature, there is another document attached in line that provides the process and procedure which
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you're all currently following with administrative staff.
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If you choose to adopt this policy today, finance will be back on the 16th of April with a year to date report so that we are
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providing an ongoing update both to the Board of Supervisors and to the constituency about how much has been expended in economic
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development grants, to whom those grants are made, and documenting that we're doing our follow up.
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Happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you Supervisor Humphrey.
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I I thank them very much for making this so much more difficult for us and the constituents from what everybody was used to prior.
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But I understand how important it is that that we keep up with our audits because of the benefits.
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From it. And so I guess the pain is worth it. So thank you very much. I appreciate you keeping us where we need to be.
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They will be here in person. I believe it's on May 7th.
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If you have additional feedback to share with with them.
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Supervisor I would. I thank you.
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For for giving me the heads up, I have a time.
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And I said they would want my comment. He could have been through the county.
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Right. You know, you know, this is just one of the gifts we get for being so far behind on our audits 7 years ago or whatever it
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was. But you guys have done an awesome job of getting all that caught up. And if we have to go through these hoops, that's what
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we're going to have to go through. Hunt, Jessica.
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So I do see in here there is going to be more work that's going to have to be involved from our standpoint.
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I'll Grant and Barrett.
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Thank you.
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I appreciate your help. Is Kathy grinning? Well, she is. She won't be here through it also.
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So thank you.
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So if I understand your comments, without going line by line on this, you're just putting into writing what we are currently.
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Doing our conduct is currently with regard to.
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The constituent funds and.
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Economic Development Grants. So the attached policy is.
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Putting into writing exactly what you just said, putting into writing what our current protocol is. You will, as I mentioned to
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Supervisor Humphrey at the auditor's office, will be here in person in May. There is another finding for 2023 because this policy
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hadn't been enacted.
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Assuming that we enact this policy today.
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Then the finding for 2024 will be a reflection of whether or not we've actually.
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Followed this to the letter including the monthly reporting and the ongoing updates from the recipient.
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OK, great. So, yeah, this is just another thing that we need to have in place to make sure that the Auditor General is.
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Happy with the way we conduct our paperwork.
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I mean in a nutshell.
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Well we gotta be within the statute of law too right now. You know and I understand that you know and what I see is is I think
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we're doing my opinion is we're doing a good job now but I see where we're gonna have to we'll have more documentation is what it
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how it addresses the public and the.
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What's the benefits to the county? Yada yada yada. I just see more work on that side of it.
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Probably what we've been doing and also the reporting back from the receiving parties or organizations.
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And something we'll have to keep up with.
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And that I think it will be a big.
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Probably a big training curve on our part, because most of them are.
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Aren't doing that. They haven't done that and so I have to be up front and address but.
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We'll get there, I guess.
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And we'll continue to work with the county attorney's office if there are areas for improvement.
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So Marin will this if if we approve this now, does it go? Does it enact immediately?
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Yes, it would effectively be.
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The entire current fiscal year.
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So we go it would it would cover us back to July 1.
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I see. Because we've been following this. This just totifies it. I see. Gotcha. OK with that, Mister Jeff. I mean, this is policy
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we're setting on ourselves, and so we can change it later if we need to, too.
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That made some eyes open.
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Yeah, yes.
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Cool. I like that part of it.
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I have to make sure I double check with Jessica before I can't give you legal advice.
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OK. Any other comments?
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If not, I'll call for motion.
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Mr. Chair, I moved to adopt revised policy number BOSFIN 016.
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Mr. Chair, I'll second that. OK, We have a motion and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye, Aye.
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Thank you, Mara. Thank you. We'll be back on April 16th with your report.
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OK, OK, Item 3 DI have information, discussion and action or action to repeal.
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Resolution #23-09-03 and adopt A resolution #24-03-02 which authorizes the cemental of an application for a Clean Water State
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revolving Fund loan from the Water Infrastructure Authority of Arizona's auction speed $250,000 which will be used for the Gila
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County Cesspool Capital Improvement project. And we have Kaylee with us. Good morning. Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the
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Board.
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As stated, this is a request to repeal a resolution we brought to you in September.
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And replace it with an updated resolution because we are required to designate a funding source to repay the.
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The loan, even though it is a 100% forgivable loan, they just needed verbiage in there. So we worked with our county attorney's
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office to put that in there.
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And then like you said, this is so that we can finally submit.
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Hopefully for the last time on this application so we can work on these testicles. Happy to answer any questions. OK. Thank you
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Kaylee Proviso Humphrey.
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So this this will be funds that will be available for constituents who qualify for failing cesspool to.
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Receive perhaps a septic tank and leave system.
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Yes.
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OK, OK.
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Yeah, just just just careful, but but the qualification is the important part of what?
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Is going to be. This is going to be funded for.
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OK. Thank you very much.
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Supervisor Klein.
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So I so I get what you're saying about this is.
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Is going to be paid back anyway, but.
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So we're the, we're the ones that's actually asking for this fund loan, Kaylee.
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This is confusing to me. I guess Chairman member supervisors. So to my understanding this is a new program.
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And they do not currently have documentation for the actual agreement. This is to submit the application now.
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At any point, you guys could repeal this resolution or not move forward with the agreement once we have that documentation. But
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for now, we are being advised that this is a 100% forgivable loan.
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Now, of course, the county attorney's office is going to review the documents to see what language is in there to see if the
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county is going to be on the hook for any sort of amount of these funds.
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But again, that's a second process. This is just for the application.
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Well, OK.
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Thank you, Jessica. Yes.
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Thank you Kaylee. Nasty topic.
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So.
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OK. So we're revising some language with that I will call for a motion.
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Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to repeal Resolution #23-09-03.
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And adopt resolution #24-03-02.
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Mr. Chair, I'll second that motion and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye. Aye. Thank you, Kaylee.
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Ready.
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Item 3. Information discussion or action to approve amendment number one to contract agreement number Ctr. 063953 with Stantec
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Consulting Services.
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Incorporated to extend the contract for the Monroe St. Improvement Project through August 30th, 2024 in the amount not to exceed
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$123,495.51.
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Good morning, Alex.
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Mr. Chairman, Board, thank you for having me back. As you know at the end of January, the work session, I had Chris Eggers from
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Stantec with me here and we presented a few options before you guys on the Monroe St. some opportunities to save a little money
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and make the project better.
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In essence, getting the best project for Eagle County that we could. You guys gave us plenty of feedback.
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The issue that arose from that is the contract expired a few days after we had had that conversation. So this is a.
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No cost to the county. So the number given was the originally approved number, but we would like to extend their contract through
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August so that we can get all of the ideas put together and brought back before you guys for approval.
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So that we have the best product for Gila County.
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Hey, thank you Alex. Supervisor Humphrey.
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Yeah, it's been like this for a long time, so to me it's worth the delay.
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To get the best project that we can. So thank you very much for working with them and us to to get the best project that we can
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out of it even if it does extend the the project some so.
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I thank you very much for working with that supervisor claim, Alex. Do you think this will be the last extension though? I mean
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the end will get done. That is the plan right now. That would be a good plan from my standpoint.
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So I mean, I see it and we stretch things out and prices change and things go up and.
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So if we can get done with this this go around that would be great.
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Thank you. That is what we are pushing for. Yes, right on.
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Think Alex, with that, I'll call for motion.
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Mr. Move to approve to approve amendment number one to contract agreement number CCR 0615953 with Santex Consulting Services
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Incorporated as presented. And Mr. Chair, I'll second that. OK Motion to approve and I second all those in favor say aye, aye,
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aye.
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Thank you, Alex. Thank you.
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The next item is 3F Information Discussion Action to Approve Amendment number One to Service Agreement Number 011124, Installation
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of Animal Control Box C-111.
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With Heart Straw Manufacturing LLC to extend the term of the contract from February 16th, 24 to June 30th, 2024 with a not to
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exceed the amount of $51,229.
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Now JC.
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Good morning, Chairman, members of the morning back in February 6th, 2024, the Board approved contract 011124 for the installation
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of the animal control box onto our animal. The new truck that we are getting from the time it took the purchase order to be
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executed and sent to the company, there's just not enough time to finish the project. So we're asking the Board to amend the
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service agreement and to extend it for an additional two months so they would be plenty of time to finish the project.
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And I'll entertain any questions. Thank you. Supervisor Humphrey. I have no questions Mr.
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OK, Supervisor Klein.
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Casey, is this the original amount? We started with 51,000, OK?
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Yeah. OK. Cool. I'm, I'm kind of like with what I told Alex, we need to get it done. Yeah. And I I I think I on the e-mail, I
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think it's going to be, it's going to take about 3 to 4 weeks to get it complete. So I think the the end of the additional two
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months would would make for sure to spend a time Good deal. Thank you. Yes, thank you. And with that I will call for a motion.
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Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve amendment number one to service, Agreement number 011124 is presented.
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Mr. Chair, I'll second that. We have a motion in a second to approve those in favor. Say aye.
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Thank you.
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And item 3G. Information Discussion Action to approve the Use of State Arizona Contract Agreement number Ctr. 061839 with Skyline
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Builders and Restoration in the amount of $1,877,186.16.
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For the Payson Courthouse Remodel project.
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Joseph Good Morning Chairman Board of Supervisors at the Board of Supervisors work session that took place on January 30th, 2024
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with Facilities and Land Management Department.
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Presented a review of the patient Courthouse remodel project.
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Project aims to address several challenges.
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While modernizing the 40 plus year.
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Infrastructure.
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The 13,848 square foot facility.
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Which has two floors.
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The primary objective of the remodel are to optimize the courts first floor operational space.
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Establish a security checkpoint.
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And ensure life and safety infrastructure such as fire monitoring system, fire suppression system and the compliance with the
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American with Disabilities Act 88.
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As part of the renovation project, we will also upgrade the facilities, paving, roofing, HVAC, electrical and mechanical to meet
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the standard requirements.
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After reviewing the patient courthouse remodel project and have evaluated the objectives and the goals of the renovation.
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Project is aimed at addressing several challenges while modernizing the 40 plus year infrastructure of the courthouse. The primary
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goals.
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Of the renovation are to optimize operational space again and to establish life and safety infrastructure.
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The Religion Land Management recommends proceeding with the renovation project. Proposed remodel is classified as a Level 3
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alteration according to International Building Code. Therefore, the project must install fire suppression and monitoring system
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based on the facility square footage.
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And occupancy load.
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Upgrades to the facilities, paving, roofing, a track, electrical and mechanical systems are necessary to meet the standard
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requirements and improve the safety and functionality of the building.
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Establishing a fire suppression monitoring system, security checkpoint and compliance with ADA regulations.
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We're sure a safer and more accessible environment.
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For all visitors and employees improving the operational space.
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Will help streamline court proceedings and enhance the overall efficiency of the courts courthouse.
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The renovation project has been planned and budgeted and we expect to obtain the primary funding.
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From ARPA. Additionally, we will receive support for the project in the form of $120,000 from Judge Wright Superior Court
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Administrative Fund.
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With that, I'd be happy to take any questions. Joseph Supervisor Humphrey.
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Well, I'm glad to see the funds are available. I just, you know, I mean we put a lot of thought and interest in everything in
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building this and now we're spending a ton of money remodeling it and so.
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I'm glad that the funding is there and that.
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It's going to go forward. I just. I just hope that we're.
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We're pretty much finished with remodels on the newest building to Gila County and that's my only comments. Thank you. Thank you.
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Supervisor. Client. So James, this ARPA money is the last of the ARPA money, right? I mean we're we're obligated spent however you
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want to put it.
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Mr. Chairman Work and this treasure.
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Fine, We're pretty darn close.
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OK. Yeah.
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So their their original 10 and a half million dollars of.
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Right. We still have a little bit laughter, I believe so, yes.
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OK.
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Good morning, Chairman, Mr. Borg.
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With this project, minus this project away from the original 10.5, we're down to about $400,000.
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With the remaining ARPA funding, so Mr. Mendel is absolutely correct. We're we're right there. So Michael with that thought this
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24 was the year we had to have a spin or obligated, right. So I mean this is the year we have to have it balanced out. We had to
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have it spent completely by December 20.
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25 Oh, OK sort of.
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Planned out before December 2024.
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OK. We're right on target for that.
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The reason I ask is because like with any project, it's something that's just a little off and this 1.8.
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Doesn't seem to do it. We still have a little bit of money floating out there to make something up if we had to.
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Right.
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Mr. Chairman, this is a job order type contract and so if there are any overages, it's up to the contractor there. By approving
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this today that is locked in and there will not be any overages. Scope has been established by Joseph and his team.
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And so that 400,000 can go also?
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Good. That's even better. Thank you, Joseph. Thanks, Michael.
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Mr. Chairman.
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Yes Sir can also find out that this this is not an improvement to or model of the PCM building. This is the.
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Older courthouse.
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That is being removed.
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So the new building reconstructed.
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We're not touching that.
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This is all on that older building, the two-story courthouse that said and.
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Right, Joseph, is that about 50 year old building?
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I had 40 cluster 40 plus right? Yeah.
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So it's I think it's fantastic that we have the money to spend American rescue plan.
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Money that we don't have to match or anything. So this is really a one time opportunity to get it done and do it right. Yes, Sir.
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OK, so.
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We're locked into this figure and it's not on topic, but I presume there's been plans made for the last.
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400,000 of ARPA money we need to commit to before the end of the year.
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You guys talking about that?
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Yes, Sir. Roy's looking. Yeah, we don't want to have any money in the pocket.
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Right, OK.
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OK, with.
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I'll call for.
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Mr. Chair, I move to approve the use of the State of Arizona Contract Agreement number Ctr. 061839 with Skyline Builders and
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Restoration Incorporated as presented. Mr. Chair, I'll second that. OK. A motion to approve and seconded those in favor. Say aye,
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aye, aye.
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Thank you, Joseph. Thank you. Yeah.
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Do we know how long that project is going to take Joseph just to?
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After just off the cuff there, we have to have it done by the.
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And a 25, right?
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Chairman, Board of Supervisors. Good news, We're going to fall well within that timeline.
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With us being able to move forward, we're anticipating anywhere from a four to six month project.
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That being said, boys looking to expedite.
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And I'm sorry, I'm just keep asking questions, but it's uh.
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I do know there's contractors that would like to bid on.
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Say the sprinkler system, I presume that this company that we're hiring.
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Be putting out kids and things like that to their advantage as well as ours to go local.
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Great. Thank you, Joseph. Thank you.
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OK, our last item 3H in category #3 information discussion, action to approve Economic development Agreement number 03132024
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between the county and the RIM country Chamber of Commerce in the amount of $2500, which the board is determined to be for the
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benefit of the public. James.
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Mr. Chairman, Members, the Board, The RIM Country Chamber of Commerce.
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They used to have a monthly luncheon. They changed their format a little bit and they're doing quarterly events.
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Quarterly events I attended the last one.
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There was quite a few people there.
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But they like to have this at no cost to those that come and participate in it.
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Their proposed.
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Event for April is regarding tourism and economic development in that region of the county.
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And have asked and this is actually a part will be a partnership with the kind of Payson.
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Cost to put on the event is about $5000 Town of Payson has agreed to.
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Support the event by 2500 dollars.
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And we were asking that the.
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Request has come to either county and requesting divorce approved $2500 support this event.
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That is currently scheduled for April 20.
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Regarding tourism and economic development and.
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Northern Heath accounting.
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I this will come from constituent funds.
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I believe District One and District 3 have agreed to.
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Split the cost for this.
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OK. Thank you, James. Any questions, Supervisor Humphrey?
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No questions, Supervisor Klein.
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James, That's still being held on Tuesdays, right?
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The chamber luncheon up there.
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April 26th.
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Let me tell me what day you think that is.
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I think it's a Thursday.
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OK. Or Friday?
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It's later in the week, it's not on Tuesday, so they've changed their days then.
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That is a Friday, Friday.
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And and will that be their normal chamber luncheons?
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They're not holding the monthly chamber luncheons right anymore. They've converted to the orderly quarterly.
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Events where this is a 5 hour.
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5-6 hour event starting at 9:10 in the morning. Go until two or three in the afternoon.
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We used to attend those on Tuesdays after our board meetings were pulled up there and they were really good, real informative. And
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a lot of people, yeah, and that's the same. A lot of people attend good events. They're well programmed, well thought out, very
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protective in the the presentations and discussions and.
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And the instructors that are there for that and so very effective and worthwhile event.
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Thank you. Yes, thanks James. And with that I'll call for motion, Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve economic development.
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Agreement number 03132024.
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Between Gila County and around country Chamber of Commerce in the amount of $2500, which the board has determined to be for the
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benefit of the public.
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Mr. Chair, I'll second motion to approve and 2nd of In Favor Say aye, Aye, Aye, aye. Thank you. Item number four is our consent
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agenda action item.
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Would Supervisor Humphrey, Is there any of the consent agenda items that you would like to remove from the?
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No answer to gender. OK. Supervisor Klein I I'm good as well. So am I. Nice. So I'll call for a motion on the consent agenda items
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A through F.
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Mr. I move to approve consent agenda items for A through or F, and I will second that motion to approve. And second, all those in
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favor say aye, aye.
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OK. We have come to the call to the public, but we're, hey, we're doing good on time. I've got quite a number here and I think we
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do have some in payment as well.
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So.
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Cassandra, is there anyone on the Internet that?
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Not yet, OK.
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All right. So he called to the public is something that we offer at the end of the meetings to address the Board of Supervisors on
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any issue within the jurisdiction of the Board of Supervisors.
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The Board members may not discuss items that are not specifically identified on the agenda, so therefore, pursuant of Arizona
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Statute 38, Dash 431.01 H at the conclusion of an open call to the public.
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By those who've been addressed, addressed, the board may ask staff to review a matter or may ask what a matter.
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That a matter be put on a future agenda or future discussion?
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At a future date and also respond to any criticism so.
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Long as everyone understands that, we've got quite a few today.
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And we're going to limit your comments to 3 minutes, please.
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And so our first speaker is Adam Baugh.
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And I remember an e-mail from him and he would like to discuss the short term.
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Rental ordinance.
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Kind of surprises. Thanks for your time. I typically have a lawyer, landing attorney. I represent developers across the state.
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This is unusual for me to actually be here on my own accord.
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Different when you're trying to protect your own property rights versus trying to build a neighborhood subdivision, but it's
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important to me and that's why I'm here.
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I represent a group of 250 people. I wouldn't say represent, but I lead them and that's in the finest job area.
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And as a result I represent.
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Developers throughout the state.
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In the implementation, the craft and the draft, and of zoning ordinances.
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So with special attention, I've looked at yours.
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And it surprises me that in order to be adopted without.
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Really soliciting impact from various stakeholders who it most directly impacts.
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We don't have time to discuss all things. I want to be respectful. If you mentioned giving me, so I'll just point out to four
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things that I think would be helpful. I know we have a meeting in the future that I'll love to elaborate more than further, #1.
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I think the ordinance is vague and ambiguous in some spots. It contradicts itself in other places.
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And is in direct violation of the state statute that gives that you the authority to act.
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The four areas is first. The state statute says that you can only adopt and enforce SGR ordinances to the extent that it is
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applicable in the same manner as other property classified under sections 4212003, which refer to single family homes.
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So in your ordinance, you limit them to guest count. You provide mandatory, require mandatory pest control, impose hours for
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curbside trash.
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Institute background checks, display a floor plan, create additional maintenance obligations and prohibit public street parking,
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which is all valid and lawful provided that you require the same thing with other single family residence homes.
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I don't believe you apply that uniformly. So for that reason I believe you'll find that your ordinance.
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Has some.
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Deficiencies as relates to state law, secondly.
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Your ordinance.
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Has a one hour reporting appointment.
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But unfortunately, the way the state statute is written, it says in a timely manner over the phone or by e-mail.
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Your ordinance takes a step further and replies it.
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I say one hour response time in person.
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I think the kind of language should be reflective of the state statute, at least to maintain conformity and compliance.
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#3
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The kind definition of an emergency event. I feel as vague and ambiguous and the concern I have. As it's currently written, any
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complaints, even without cause, can require someone to show.
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And that's showing up then results in potential fine and three of those.
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Results in a revocation of your organs.
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Worries me is the abuse of that process.
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With an unverified complaint. I have a neighbor.
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In my first three months of ownership, threatened to shoot my wife because she's using a leaf blower.
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On a Saturday at 2:00 PM.
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That person is aware that all he needs to do is file fake complaints.
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That are unverified that result in police showing up or County Sheriff.
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And that's all it takes. It's a problem and I feel like.
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Without you having a proper noise on it in your adopting your county code, you won't even be able to administer it properly
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because you can't measure it.
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The fourth point and I'll wrap it up briefly with this.
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Is in your notice section of your new ordinance.
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It says notice can be simply left on the door. And as remote owners, notice left in the door might satisfy your ordinance, but we
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would never know about it and so if you can at least require that it gets mailed to the property.
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Of residents as well as the address on File account accessor.
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We can actually get the proper notice and help you out.
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You've been gracious to 3 minutes. I know I've run over, but we do have suggested language. We do have a draft ready.
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And I'd love to share it with you prior to your work session in April. When I meet in person, I'll present that with Yet we're not
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opposed to regulation. We just want to be fair and proper.
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OK. Thank you, Mr. Bob. Yeah, please present that information if it's not already in.
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Your e-mail.
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OK, please do.
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Next we have.
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Is it gettler?
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OK, Mr. Gettler is.
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From Pine. He also wants to speak.
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About the STR ordinance.
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Hello, Supervisors Humphrey and Klein and Chairman Christensen. I wanted to address the STR ordinance.
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My name is Tim Gutler. I'm a resident of Pine, a registered voter in Gila County, as well as an STR owner.
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While I agree that there is need to be an ordinance, this ordinance goes too far.
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I follow Facebook groups and Hein and went back and read the minutes from previous sessions back in October I believe. I know that
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there are people that do not like STRS.
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In fact, I purchased our home in 2020 that was built in 1977 and had not been updated since. We spent over $50,000 in updates and
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plan to spend an additional 50 to $70,000 to update the siding and windows.
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As an STR owner it is.
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In our best interest to maintain the property have pest services.
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And such our home backs up against Strawberry Mountain out of the six homes that are within the site.
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That are within sight of our home. Three of them are very accepting of our property, two of them can care less and one of them
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actually has a sign in their yard saying that no Airbnb is welcome.
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I saw and responded to the survey that was made available. I was very disappointed and clearly the author of the survey has an
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agenda and does not like SCRS. My question is.
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Is has there been an economic study?
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Of impact for STR's?
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For the economy of pine and strawberry, the current, the current form of the ordinance goes too far and is too vague in speech.
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It will create closures of the stairs, which may be what is planned, which may be is what the planning and zoning wants. But as I
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said, the amount of money that I have spent improving our home and maintaining our home goes back into the community of pine
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Strawberry and I insurance to pay some.
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Our house guests spend their money in the in the restaurants and antique shops and other businesses or restaurants alone need
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tourism to stay in business.
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If there are not STRS, there would not be enough places for the visitors to stay.
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This ordinance also gives.
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Anti SDR residents, all the power to create problems for owners by calling the Sheriff's Office, making complaints and I'm sure
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the sheriff has a lot better things to do that this would be a non-emergency item that Payson is 30 minutes away. If that's where
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they're located, it's where they may not even show up for up to an hour and by that time the problem may not even exist.
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And probably never did exist as.
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From my neighbor not wanting any S chairs they would go out of their way to.
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Create habit for me and.
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'Cause expenses.
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So we hope that you.
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Take another look and and.
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And do it right through the ordinance. It's justice, right?
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Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Geller. Thank you for coming today. Next we have Cindy Hudson.
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Also wishes to speak on the same topic.
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Nonprofit organizations and charities in Pine strawberry as well.
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Exactly. I can briefly just just the topic of the charities in Pine, but before that I'm hoping that your supervisor will help me
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clarify something I just saw happen here.
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You just approved $2500 for the economic development with the.
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RIM country chairman or RIM country?
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I should just Chamber of Commerce, thank you from country Chamber of Commerce, which the board has determined to be for the
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benefit of the public.
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00:53:39
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Yet with this short term ordinance that this county is promoting.
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You are quashing the short term rental industry, the economic impact study done in 2021.
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Determined that the economic output for Gila County alone from short term rentals is $84,355.
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Oh, and 84,300.
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I'm not good with them 84,000.
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OK, so.
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You want to flash this industry to lose 84,000 in income, but yet we're debating over $2500 to Simone to promote tourism in room
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country.
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Sorry, I know I that was another subject but.
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Hopefully you can clarify that.
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At least in your mind.
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What I wanted to talk today about actually I spoke last meeting about the impact this ordinance will have on businesses in Pine,
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will have on the Arizona trail hikers. We are a gateway community. It will affect them.
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I want to talk today about the effect this ordinance will have on the charities and the nonprofit organizations in Pine.
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We're a tiny town.
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We have over 12 nonprofits established that support our town and what supports those nonprofits is our festivals and our special
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events.
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All summer long we have the muggy and monster. We have the Pine Trail Run.
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We have fire in the room bike race. We have every weekend a holiday arts and crafts festival in time.
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Proceeds to those events go to our charities. In our nonprofits, they support wildfire prevention.
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Forest management. They support local trail maintenance. They support our Senior Center.
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They support her Meals on Wheels. They support our sick and needy programs.
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It's a part of children's programs.
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So they contribute to the town of Pine.
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This ordinance.
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Will will cost short term rentals.
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Short term rentals are required for participants and vendors.
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For these events to happen.
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And they've got to have a place to stay. We all know there's not a lot of housing options in the rural areas, especially pine and
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strawberry.
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So if you take away options for housing, you take away these events.
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To take away these events, you take away contributions to our nonprofits.
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All I'm trying to say is, let's look at the big picture.
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This, this ordinance does affect the entire town. It does affect businesses. It does affect charities.
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It does affect tourism, which is a major component of our wind country economy.
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So again, back to my original question.
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I had. I actually made it in 3 minutes this time.
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You know, we're we're having to approve spending.
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$2500 when you're losing an $85,000 a year industry.
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For a Tony.
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Thank you very much for the opportunity to speak.
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Thank you, Cindy.
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I'll call them the supervisors later if they feel they need to respond to any criticism, but next we have Cindy Condit wishes to
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speak on the same topic. Trash and pest control? Wildlife. Things like that. She has some photos she'd like to share.
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With us to so that.
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We know what she's Speaking of.
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Wow, Thank you.
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Thank you.
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OK, we'll start your 3 minutes now.
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My husband and I are full time residents up in Strawberry.
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We have two properties in strawberry that we Airbnb.
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I want to address the sections of the regulations concerning the trash cans and the regular pest control.
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To keep the premises free of insects, rodents and other nauseous pets.
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I want to talk about the fines to be levied on this.
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Owner of the short term rentals.
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If a guest feeds the out.
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The way the ordinance is written.
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It's going to fall on the homeowner.
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To be fined if the guests get caught feeding the Yelp.
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We love living in strawberry.
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We have beautiful mountain views.
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You'll see the photos I've.
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They are within 1 1/2 miles of my home.
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We can't fully enjoy these views because our property.
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Is directly adjacent.
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To the residents of the owner.
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Of the Pine Ice and Chevron gas station, AKA Uncle Tom's.
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You'll see in the photos I've given you that this residential property.
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Has been turned into a storage facility.
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Used by pine knife to store its unused equipment, such as semis, tiny ice trailers of enlarged trucks and piles of rusting junk.
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We can't sit on our patio to enjoy our view.
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The top photo is of a trash can. You got the outflow.
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As a small amount compared to what we see every day.
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Your new world demands that STR's must not place containers out before 6:00 PM and must be removed within 12 hours.
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Will you apply this rule to the people who live in Gila County full time?
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What about the part time residence?
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Well, they have to schedule their visits around trash pickups.
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Carry it back to the valley with them.
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Will they be fined for not sticking around?
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And it not being removed within 12 hours.
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I'm also taking photos.
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Of the stores within that same 1 1/2 miles.
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They are maintained.
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It's easy to see where the insects, rodents and other nauseous patch might come from.
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We do our part to make it clear that feeding the wildlife is prohibited.
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We post feeding the elk can result in serious injuries.
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Along with a hefty.
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We, however, can no more guarantee that our guests will obey our rules.
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In Hila County can guarantee the people.
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It's just as unfair to find the STR owners for the actions of their guests as it is to find the county supervisors for speeding
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drivers.
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Please if you're going to have this ordinance, all home businesses should have to face the same rules regulations.
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Fees and fines the local residents should be required.
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To the same standards when it comes to noise, trash and maintaining their properties.
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Thank you for your presentation.
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Next we have on the same topic we have Kevin.
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Is it?
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Course site. You are very brave.
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Very good.
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On the same topic.
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Thank you. Good morning, Chairman, Members of the Board, I appreciate your time. I I do appreciate your efforts to ensure that
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STR's.
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Are in alignment with residential drug uses. I think that's important so.
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I applaud your efforts a little bit of back story, personal note.
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My wife works in the public schools. I'm a diaper. We've long had a dream of having a place in the mountains. Three years ago we
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found a property in Pine fortunate enough to pick that property up and started down this course. We just recently got our building
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permits. Pretty exciting time for us.
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Unfortunately, we've we've also.
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Banked on SDR funds to allow us to achieve our goals and ultimately want to move to fine live up there full time and and my worry
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is the negative impact this ordinance will have in our dream.
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So I appreciate your time this morning.
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The ordinance mission states to protect public health, safety and welfare.
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Goes on to see all their items. I know other folks have have touched on many aspects of this ordinance. We find a challenge. Just
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wanna talk about section 3.3, the one hour requirement of of.
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Call for emergency for the owner to arrive at the property. On its face, this doesn't seem all that feasible even.
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Long term, if we're living on the property and we haven't done this appointment down in Payson, we get a call to get out of the
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chair, make it all the way back there within an hour can be a challenge.
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So that that's certainly one aspect of it. I also question the effectiveness of the owner or representative on site should an
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emergency be occurring.
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The presence of the public safety personnel which is called out the ordinance.
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Is hands down the best person to handle that situation? They're professional, they're trained, they're the most effective to
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manage that situation.
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Adding more people and certainly a potential owner or representative of.
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Can actually escalate the situation, create a challenge. So I just questioned the effectiveness of that on its face. Also the duty
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of enforcement is that the public safety personnel that's required to start the stopwatch and.
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And wait for an hour to see if anyone shows up which would initiate that $250 fine.
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Probably not the highest and besties of their time.
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Ordinance also goes down to say if nobody shows up at all, it's an additional $500 fine.
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How long should that person wait with their stopwatch to see if anyone shows up so?
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Again, I'm just not quite sure what the mechanism there I don't want to come up with with just challenges. I do think there's a
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solution here.
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As an owner, I have more of an interest in the property in any emergency that might occur there than probably most.
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If somebody gets injured, a God forbid worse.
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I absolutely want to know about it. I think that that the section 3.3 could be rewritten effectively to say.
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If there is a call for service.
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Absolutely identify the owner.
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Eliminate the one hour requirement. Eliminate the fines.
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Trust me, every STR owner is going to want to get up there and remedy that solution. Excuse me, remedy that problem.
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As quickly as possible, we have a very vested interest.
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So thank you for your time. I appreciate that and.
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Look forward to our work session later on. Thank you for that and I'd like to thank everybody that's driven here today.
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To do that and I'm trying to keep track of everyone's concerns and we're doing that and lastly here.
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With my blue paper is Vince Hudson of Pine.
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To also speak on short term rentals.
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Morning, Mr. Christensen and Supervisor, hopefully.
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Fine. As we read through these issues that you guys were throwing at us, one of them.
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Faces me. I'm in the real estate world and I know it very well. I've been doing it since the 70s.
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If we think that we're going to stop these short term rentals.
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And it's going to keep the economy of that area.
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Going were wrong because these folks are buying these short term rentals.
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And using them for that so they have a place to go the weekends they want to go up.
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Not everybody.
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Got the luxury to afford a property in the mountains?
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To live part time.
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And they use this system.
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Of the short term rentals.
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To help justify their cost. At the end of the day, I don't know if any of you three guys own short term rounds.
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And it doesn't matter.
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But the bottom line?
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We can't punish people that are making investments to try to better themselves, their family give themselves a place to go.
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To get out of the heat in the summer or vice versa.
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And and for this is what really bothered me the most.
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That all three of you men setting up there.
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Voted this in.
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When I came to meetings.
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Here to talk about it, but yet we cut them short. We cut it short. We don't have time to talk about it. And then you do this
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behind our backs and some of our friends backs that we live next door to.
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This is totally unacceptable of U3.
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And you guys work for us. We don't work for you.
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So please, please when we have this meet this.
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Organ organized.
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Meeting to try to solve these problems. Please listen to the folks that are out there. I'm not saying all these Airbnbs are right,
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because they're not.
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And it's like any other business.
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You got people that take care of their business and you don't.
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Do I believe that people that aren't need to be?
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I don't know if the words penalize or have their.
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License to practice these Airbnbs taken away or put onto some type of a.
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For no better word, let's say beyond.
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On a system to where, if they happen continuously, your license.
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Are going to get pulled.
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But to throw this in our face And if your grandmother?
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Came to see you for the weekend and you didn't have a place for her to stay and you wanted her to stay down the street at an
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Airbnb and they said.
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Nope, sorry. We got to do a background check on him.
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How would you feel, Mr. Humphrey?
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Mr. Klein, how would you feel?
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I wish I could answer that. Vince, you can. No, I can't. Why can't you? Not yet.
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We're here for you to talk.
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Let's let's all be upfront and honest with each other. I know you guys think I'm a bad guy because I push everything.
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But you know what?
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Everything I got seen and I work for.
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And we struggle to get where we're at.
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We're not going to take this layer down.
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Thank you.
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Pleasant hunter. Anything at this juncture?
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Excuse me, I'll I'll wait for the work session.
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I do have lots of comments. I do feel as if I have the right to defend myself and probably should today, but I'm gonna hold my
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comments.
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Until the work session.
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Supervisor Klein.
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Thank you. Now's my turn, Vince.
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So let me just start straight up off the bat.
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You're looking at three guys who have nothing against short terminals.
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We are all in favor of short term rentals.
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Our problem has been from the very giggle the people that don't operate on. As Vincent had pointed out, they don't operate operate
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them correctly.
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You're a nuisance to the neighborhood. They cause big problems in neighborhoods and that's the that's the complaints that that
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came to us and started this off.
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The other thing I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you guys, like I told all the people in Pleasant Valley where I live, 'cause they said
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the same thing. Well, you're throwing this out there. We had no idea what was going on. We've been talking about this for months.
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This has been on agendas for a long time and people don't pay attention to agendas.
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And when they came up it was voted in and if you'll go back and listen to the meetings, you will see for sure what I have to say
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about it.
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I think the fact that we have pushed for a work session to bring this up and revisit it.
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Is in itself enough to point out to you folks, we're not trying to cram anything down your throat and make you go out of business.
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As you would say, we're trying to make an ordinance that will fit everyone.
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But yet we keep getting that thrown in our face that we're trying to put everybody out of business. You guys are wrong when you
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say that.
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Straight up wrong. And if it if it was, if we were for doing that, we would have passed that ordinance and never gave anybody a
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second chance to come back and readdress it.
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But we did, because we feel like there's ways we can make this fit.
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To where we're not hammering the good people.
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But we're making the other ones total line and run a correct business.
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So we've heard this time and time and time again to the point I wish there was a way we didn't have to discuss short term rentals
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again until that work session.
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It's the same old thing.
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I have my points of view on it as far as businesses and towns and what the impacts are.
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And I will tell you another impact when Cindy talks about housing in areas, the reason there's not enough housing is because
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they've all been turned into short term rentals.
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That is a fact in Gila County. There isn't enough long term rentals in Gila County, especially in the Payson area, to provide
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housing for the law enforcement people, the nurses and so forth.
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There's not. The Forest Service, for example, had to go into Indian Gardens and set up camps for their seasonal workers to live at
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all summer long because they couldn't find.
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Places to rent through the summer.
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So when anybody talks about housing.
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And I'm not criticizing eBay for doing short term rentals because that's the number one investment today.
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For making money.
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And so forth.
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But I will tell you, don't throw that out there in front of Maine and tell me that there. You know that that's the problem or not
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the problem, whatever it was. But.
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Because everything today is short term rentals, not long term.
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And so there's a whole lot about this that I for one, I'm not speaking on these two.
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But I've had a chance to talk to a lot of people. I've read tons and tons of emails. That's been to us.
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And I get it.
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I understand your concerns. I honestly think there's a way we can make this better and make it fit everyone.
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But that's why we went for this work session April 30th.
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And that's what's going to happen. We're going to go through it. We're going to talk about it.
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I know you're a lawyer. We have our lawyers sitting here. We address everything.
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Or it's going to be out there?
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But straight up, when you say that we're blinding, sighting you or something.
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Irritate me because the fact is you didn't pay attention to agendas for a long time. See this coming.
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And I'll visit with you later, Vince. I'd love to sit down with a cup of coffee and visit with.
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And so I've gotten that that same complaint a bunch if I just wanted that out there. But number one, first and foremost, I for
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1:00 AM not against short term rentals.
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I just want them to fit and work.
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Thank you, Mr. Chair.
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Thank you, Supervisor Klein, and I will say that I mirror everything you said.
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So, umm.
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We have from the very beginning said that we probably will have to make adjustments to this ordinance.
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And we have that work session.
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April 30th. Now if you want to keep coming to our meetings.
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And presenting these arguments, thinking that you're going to gain headway.
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I'll assure you that all you're going to do is probably irritate us, so.
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You're welcome to do it.
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It's your right.
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But April 30th is the day.
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Supervisor Humphrey.
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Yeah, I just want to say one thing. I wasn't going to make any comments.
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But I understand that the short term rentals, I understand that you know, people want to see these beautiful places.
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But at the same time, Sedona is having to pass an ordinance.
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Where you have to prove that you have a job, but you can stay in your car in a park.
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Because Sedona has been filled with short term rentals.
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Which have raised the property values so high.
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That the people that are cleaning these Airbnbs and their yards and working at the restaurants have no place to live. They have to
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live in their cars and and Sedona has had to pass an ordinance so that they can so they are homeless.
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Because of the beautiful views in Sedona so.
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I'm not against Airbnb's, but I don't want to have to pass an ordinance for the people that work or the Airbnb.
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In Pine and Strawberry.
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To be able to live in their cars because nobody wants to be out of business.
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For the people that want to see those beautiful views.
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Because at the same time, if somebody wanted to build a motel in Pine and Strawberry, you people would be against that.
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But so OK.
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There's maybe a lot of untruths going on, but at the same time we have to find a happy medium. And is everybody going to be happy?
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No, I don't think so. But we have to find a happy medium because that's one ordinance that I'm not going to work on to have
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workers with a job live in cars because there's no place.
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Mr. Chair, I'm finished. OK, thank you. So is there anyone else here locally in Globe that wishes to speak call to the public?
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No.
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Lisa, do we have people in Payson?
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At the TCM that wish to speak.
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Call to the public.
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Yes, Sir, I have two.
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OK.
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And I have been attending your meeting.
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Could you please once again state your name please?
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OK.
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And as church and rental owners, we are all in favor of your health, welfare, and safety of our neighborhoods. Our guests deserve
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this also.
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In our neighborhood of 174, approximately 22 of those are short term rentals, that's 12%.
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You already have lives for your trash and your feeding of animals.
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They're just not getting enforced.
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Enforce it universally.
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Septic concerns only for short term rentals.
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Been an owner or a long term rental can have as many people as they want in the home their septic can overrun.
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And there's people are there 24/7, not occasionally.
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Those homes are full.
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A better choice. How about if we have a septic issue? Come up, shut us down until it's repaired. If an owner has a septic issue,
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come up, tell him he has to move it out until he corrects it.
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Of a long term rental has a septic issue.
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Shut them down.
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I have. I love the no on street.
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Our streets are narrow. No one should be parking in our streets.
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But you're only going to make short term rent.
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And there's no no parking sign.
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How are you going to regulate that?
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Test control.
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Is it? Does it have to be professional? How often do we have to do it? You don't state?
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But is it a health issue only at my home and not at my neighbors?
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Or is he going to have to do pest control also?
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Trust me if a short term rental has a bug.
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That renter is going to notify Airbnb.
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And VRBO and we're going to have to have it taken care of and within 24 hours.
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Sex offenders?
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Has this ever been reported at a short term rental in Hilo County?
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There are landlord lives that say you cannot.
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Discriminate against the sex offender from a registry.
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We cannot deny housing to them.
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Of interest in our neighborhood.
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We have an owner to the registered sex offender.
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We had a recent long term rendered. They've been there like 10 years.
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He was a registered sex offender.
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He just got arrested for watching child *****.
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And the whole one of the homes that my husband and I bought and refurbished.
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It was being used as a sex offender home.
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Not anymore. It's a short term rental.
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These are only the ones that I'm aware of.
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If you check the government, you just check the US government .3% of the population in the United States.
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Are registered sex offenders.
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How does your law protect my renter?
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From a sex offender.
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And are you opening up us up to a lawsuit because we're a land, we're a homeowner?
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We're a renter and it's against the law for a landlord.
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Do not allow.
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You only care about the 12% in your safety.
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The other 88% in my neighborhood you don't care about.
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They can have you all your unsafe things.
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But my 12, the 12% is church and Reno can't.
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Vera, your times up. Thank you for your comments.
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Lisa.
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Yes, I have Leia Lee. I'm sorry, Lee.
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Your name?
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Good morning, Mr. Chairman and Board. Appreciate you letting us have a moment. Our names are Jean Pendergrass. We are owners of
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the Rusty Pine Cone in Elkies in Pine.
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And we just want to say that we are concerned for our business, the Airbnb and the visitors are a big percentage of our.
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Clientele. So I'd say 3 to 5%.
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Of our business is local.
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So if we get real stringent on the short term rental.
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And I think this is gonna.
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Scare a lot of them away.
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And we may have some issues with the businesses. So I wanted that to be looked at and fair rules I think that.
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If you put into place all these background checks and so forth that the places that are already there, the motels, hotels, long
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even long term rental if they should be required, even more so for long term rentals.
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If they have a sex offender move in, they should be checking that as well. So just want to make sure you look at the fairness to
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everyone and not to squash. Our community has really been thriving and we want to keep it that way.
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So I appreciate your time.
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Workshop. Is that how long is that workshop going to take place?
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On April 30th, is that going to be a long time? So like 4 hour event?
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I would hope not, Jean.
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Well, I could bring some lemonade for everybody, really. OK.
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So my intention gene is to.
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Not have repetitive comments.
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So today the call to the public is there's a lot of comments that are repetitive. So during the work session I would like to.
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Limit the comments to new comments for each person, not just the same ones over and over.
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We have, we actually have two things happening on April 30th. It may be a very long day.
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Are you going to be making decisions on that day or just taking everyone? It's it's a work session, so there will not be any.
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There will not be any action items.
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OK. Thanks for your time guys. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else, Lisa?
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No Sir, OK.
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Cassandra, I'll call you again. Anyone any comments? No. OK, All right, then I will call, then I will.
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Go to the next item, item number six.
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Well, actually before I do that, I'll call on the supervisors again if they have any other additional comments. Supervisor
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Humphrey.
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I'm good. Thank you.
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OK. Item number six is the time where we can share the Board of Supervisor County Manager brief summary of current events. So
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let's go with James Menlov right now.
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Mr. Chairman, members of the board, one thing I wanted to bring attention to with our finance department, kind of mentioned a
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little bit earlier, but with.
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Instructor Belling that she was having that last week.
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For this week, contributing with the auditors to closeout.
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Last week, Marin met with the auditor from the Arizona auditor general's office.
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To closeout our fiscal year 23 audit. So here it is before the end of March completely and absolutely everything on time.
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I want to recognize Marin and the finance team for that significant accomplishment.
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That she has with the policies that are implemented and all that.
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Has made such great strides over the years.
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And I am appreciative to Miss Belling and all of her team for that tremendous.
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Accomplishment.
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Just wanted to point out that today is a voting day.
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Eric Mariska is visually.
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Administering the election for Heela County and the Presidential preference election that is being held today.
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I do want to point out that we do have our small.
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Meeting tomorrow evening.
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And I look forward to that.
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I also wanted to point out that on Friday, I believe we're taking a trip to Young.
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We have been awarded $3,000,000 in state money for a Community Center facility to provide services to veterans and at the Pleasant
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Valley Veterans Retreat.
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And also, just in the last week or so, the federal government did approve certain bills.
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That are part of the budget.
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For this current fiscal year.
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And within that budget is a appropriation or grant of 333,000 that will be used to provide a.
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88 Compliant House to service.
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At the Pleasant Valley Veterans receipt. So really good news at PVDR.
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And the money that has been available to the county for grants and look forward to.
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Walking the site and determining general locations of where those buildings and facilities will be constructed.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Thank you James Supervisor Humphrey.
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I I.
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A tunnel basin meeting on the 6th.
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Held the Roosevelt Community meeting on the 11th.
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I was on KQS radio on the 11th as well at 5:30.
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And then last night I attended the Tri-City sanitation.
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District.
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And that's about it.
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Thank you, Supervisor Klein.
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OK, so here the well just a while back on the 13th we attended the Discover Heela County.
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Workshop and everything with them.
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With the folks involved, there is, they're impatient at the library. Really, really good meeting.
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All the folks that's been a part of that and whatnot. The town was there, we were there, State parks was there.
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And so forth. But it was really good. Listen to a lot of different ideas. They're revamping the site.
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Look a little bit different, but they've got some really good ideas going there.
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After that, we attended the Whispering Pines community meeting on the 14th regarding a proposed cell tower.
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Whispering Pines is totally against this cell tower.
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And they don't want it.
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They're they're adamantly fighting against it.
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I don't know where that will end up going or what will end up happening there. Umm.
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But it's been something sitting there, watching and listening to the folks.
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Whether I agree with it or I don't agree with it, I agree with what the people want.
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In that case, and.
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And unfortunately, there may be some different situations on how we can vote for cell towers.
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As politically.
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Correct as I can put it.
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And so we're still working on or I'm still working on that and so anyway.
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Not only that tower, but it looks like there's four or five more going to be proposed a little shortly.
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And some people wanted in their community, some don't.
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And we'll just have to see.
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The other day I met. Just yesterday, I met with San Carlos on.
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To discuss some maintenance issues on the reservation for roads.
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And so we're going over to some proposals with them to work and see if we can come to an agreement to.
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To get some.
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Some Rd. maintenance going again out there on that and that was with the Department of Transportation, a council member.
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And the attorney out there, so.
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This Saturday I've got a town hall meeting in Young.
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That I'll be at. Kathy will be there with me, I think. Oh Merrill's coming up to it.
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And whatnot. It ought to be interesting.
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We'll see what.
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I'm sure short term rentals would be a topic of discussion.
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For a short while anyway. So which is good?
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Wednesday we're headed to the ECO meeting in small counties. I'm on the Eastern County Organization Board.
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Here, just your day. There's a supervisor in Greeley County, Richard Lund and he's retiring. He's stepping down and he is
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currently on a on a national board, Western Interregion Board, which is the western counties.
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And so I was contacted. He contacted me and asked me if I would run for that position.
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To fill that position behind you.
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And so I'm going to be looking at that real hard and probably, well, not probably I will try to.
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Picked up position when he vacates.
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And that'll all start Wednesday. But I want to back up and say was as I had, a real honor.
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To be invited to the State of the Union address.
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And some people I've heard all different.
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Points on that, you know, why did you want to go listen to President Biden And on and on and on.
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It wasn't so much as listening to anybody as much as it was to be there and be a part of that process.
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Eli Crane, Congressman Crane is the one that invited me to come out there and and be a part of that. You only get there by
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invitations.
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That's it. You don't. You can't just walk in the door and sit there and listen to it.
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It was a really good experience for me and I would say that if anybody ever at any time gets the opportunity or the invite, please
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take it because regardless who the president is, it's well worth being there and being a part of it.
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And and seeing the process as they go through and everything else. Umm.
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I'll tell you, one of the key parts of that for me was when I'm sitting there in the gallery.
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Galleries just about full and in walks Gabby Giffords.
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And her aid.
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I don't know. Some of you may not remember Gabby, but she was a congressman at Tucson that got shot.
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And she came walking in and I was able to introduce myself and visit with her. While she was saying that, she sat right next to
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me.
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Right there. So that was really cool. If nothing else, that was that was that was good.
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The other other gentleman that I was able to meet before going into the gallery and getting set up to.
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To listen to the president was.
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A guy from Billings, Mont, Montana.
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And knowing that everybody that walks through those doors is there because of an invite, I asked him.
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I said what? What got you invited to this, this deal?
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He said, Well, you remember the spy balloons?
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I said, yeah, I do.
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He said I was the first one to take pictures and and write articles on the spy balloons.
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Am I really Well, OK, that's cool. But I said you came all. They invited you to come all the way down here to to.
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For that, and that's a long ways from Billings, Mt to DC.
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He said. Well, no, not really. I've been in meetings all day with CIA and FBI and I was like, dude, are you gonna make it home?
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So there's some really cool points to all of that, but I would say that overall, I was really honored to be asked to attend and it
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was really, really cool to be there.
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And while we were there, we also spoke to.
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Congressman Crane and Senator Kelly on the veteran retreat, the conveyance of that and how that bill is going.
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The bills have been through the processes, they're just waiting to be attached to whatever they're gonna attach them to, probably
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other land bills and they'll be sent through and hopefully.
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Signed by the president. So we're really hoping that that that gets accomplished before October.
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Unfortunately, if it doesn't, we'll be starting all over again with the bills and and this is the second go around on those bills,
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but that will convey that property to the county.
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Which right now we're working under special use permit, so.
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Also, I missed on one thing too last night.
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I want to back up again. I was in the.
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Hayden down there, town council meeting. It's been a while since I've been able to get down there and talk to those folks and.
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But I was, I was able to go down there and give them updates and and talk to them about different things that's going on in the
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county. Really good bunch of people down there. It's always a pleasure to go down there and meet with them and visit with them so.
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01:32:31
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Mr. Chair, I think that is all I have. Thank you so much. Busy. You've been busy, yeah.
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As we all have. And so I was also at that Discover Gila County meeting.
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Tremendous.
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Really a tremendous thing that we support there. If you say Richard Blunt might be, is he going to continue being a supervisor?
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01:32:52
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No, he's not going to run this year. He's a great guy. He is.
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Bad to hear, but anyway, I hope I wish you well and it's the WIR. Yeah, OK.
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01:33:05
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And I also.
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Recently was on KRIM Radio and KMLG Radio.
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Attended the Veterans Coffee time, which is in Payson.
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The veterans get together every Tuesday, so if I'm not here on a Tuesday, I try to be there.
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Over 100 people.
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100 veterans there, it's a really a great success.
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Great group of people.
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Also the.
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Veteran group the.
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VFW or whoever they are the 147 they had a.
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Saint Patrick's Day dinner on Saturday night and at that very well attended full house.
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Fundraiser Really.
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Now, tomorrow, since we have our small caucus dinner tomorrow, what time is that, by the way?
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5:30 I'm going to be attending that, but I have set up a couple meetings prior to that, one with David Cook, one with David
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01:34:05
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Marshall.
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Just to talk. And so I do want to let everyone know that we have.
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We have spreadsheets and graphs and everything and everyone that spoke today.
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I wrote down information so.
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You're being listened to.
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And I want you to know that.
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Know that we're not ignoring anyone. So is there anything else? Yeah, I got one more thing and this Tim's got something. Please.
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A good temple.
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01:34:47
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So one more thing, I'll let everybody know straight up is I am going to run through this election. I'm gonna go for more years.
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That's all I'm gonna go. I'll be done for years.
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Kathy is gonna retire this year.
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And so I want to throw it out there that I have asked James to put Kathy in and Cherry.
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In charge of finding my next Executive Assistant.
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So if there's anyone out there that thinks that they have an interest in it or want to be crazy enough to jump in on that train
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ride, like let us know. But Kathy and Sherry will be the ones to to make that decision.
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And both of them know for sure what it takes to be a part of.
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Of that and being able to stand me so.
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Anyway, just throwing it out there for information.
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01:35:30
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Thanks. OK, that's good information. You're not allowed to approach, Melissa.
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01:35:34
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Is there anything else Supervisor Humphrey?
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01:35:39
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OK. With that, I will adjourn the meeting. Thank you.
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01:35:45
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So, Kathy.
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