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| First day of spring, It's the. | 00:00:06 | |
| It is what we call the. | 00:00:11 | |
| Spring Equinox, right? | 00:00:13 | |
| All things being equal. | 00:00:17 | |
| That's what it is, March 19th. | 00:00:19 | |
| 10:00 Let's call this meeting the Board of Supervisors. | 00:00:21 | |
| Together this morning and I've asked our sheriff to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, and I believe Supervisor Humphrey will | 00:00:25 | |
| lead us in a prayer after that. | 00:00:30 | |
| I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, | 00:00:37 | |
| indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. | 00:00:44 | |
| Our kind of great Heavenly Father, we think before that many, many blessings. | 00:00:56 | |
| Heavenly Father, we ask for Thee to be with us as we speak, to be understood, and as we hear to understand. | 00:01:01 | |
| Heavenly Father, we pray for guidance and the decisions that we make. | 00:01:09 | |
| To help make the counting. | 00:01:12 | |
| A better place for the people who live here and that passed through. | 00:01:14 | |
| Heavenly Father, all these things that we. | 00:01:20 | |
| Are grateful for and Ashley of. We do so in the name of your son and our Savior Jesus Christ. | 00:01:23 | |
| All right. | 00:01:34 | |
| Good to see everyone here this morning. Let's get started with. | 00:01:37 | |
| Item 2A It's presentation of Hill County general fund financial data. | 00:01:41 | |
| As it compares to the fiscal year 2024 he the county budget and fiscal years 20232221 and 20 year to date performance. Good | 00:01:47 | |
| morning, Marin. Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Supervisor Humphrey. Good morning, Supervisor Klein. We're here this | 00:01:54 | |
| morning with our year to date data through the end of. | 00:02:00 | |
| Well, it says January and then it references October and November. So clearly we've got a couple couple typos in this, but this | 00:02:08 | |
| really is the end of January 2024. | 00:02:13 | |
| And we have a seven month target of 58% of the annual budget. | 00:02:19 | |
| At the end of January, our general fund revenues were at 49% of that budget. | 00:02:26 | |
| And we're at 1.8 million more than the same time last year. | 00:02:32 | |
| The reason we're not at 58% of the annual budget is because of the timing of property taxes which come in, in October and April. | 00:02:38 | |
| So we'll be looking for the next couple months to be tracking below that seven month target. | 00:02:45 | |
| The areas that are. | 00:02:53 | |
| Highlighted in this chart include your salaries and ERS and your operating expenses and then your totals year to date. | 00:03:00 | |
| And then your revenues are on the far right hand side. | 00:03:10 | |
| So for your general fund expenditures? | 00:03:14 | |
| We are seeing that general fund expenditures including encumbrances at January 31st are at 55% of the budget compared to that 58% | 00:03:18 | |
| year to date target. | 00:03:24 | |
| And those are. | 00:03:31 | |
| 1,000,008 higher than the prior year and that million eight is composed of. | 00:03:33 | |
| Salaries and employee related expenses makes up 1.2 million of that, which is about 2/3. | 00:03:39 | |
| And the other third is due to the timing of when bond issue interest and fees were due. | 00:03:45 | |
| Over the past three years, so the. | 00:03:52 | |
| The variance it's where it should be. It just. | 00:03:56 | |
| Look goofy compared to the prior year and that's 548,000 and we will bring you the next update. | 00:03:59 | |
| Hopefully a month from now we will have February. | 00:04:09 | |
| Maybe March information for you. | 00:04:13 | |
| How can I answer any questions? Thank you Marin Supervisor Humphrey. I have no questions. Thank you for your info. | 00:04:15 | |
| Thank you. I don't either. Thank you, Mayor. Yeah, I don't have anything great presentation. Thank you. Look forward to. | 00:04:22 | |
| The next one as well. | 00:04:28 | |
| So let's move on to item 2, the presentation of updated information for the Board of Supervisors. | 00:04:30 | |
| February 20. | 00:04:37 | |
| 20th of 2024 agenda item which was regarding the advertisement of a March 29th, 2024 online auction. | 00:04:39 | |
| To public surplus, to sell surplus or obsolete. | 00:04:48 | |
| County vehicles. | 00:04:52 | |
| Thank you, Mr. Chair, when we presented this item in February. | 00:04:53 | |
| We articulated that there would be $150.00 minimum reserve applicable to the final purchase price of any items. | 00:04:57 | |
| When we continued working with public surplus, we learned that that caveat was not possible with them. | 00:05:06 | |
| So their standard is a $50 reserve, which is refundable, not applicable to the final purchase price. We wanted to bring that to | 00:05:13 | |
| you as a clarification. So each bidder will need to place a $50 reserve. | 00:05:21 | |
| With public surplus and then after the auction is over, if they have, whether they have purchased anything or not, that $50.00 | 00:05:28 | |
| will be refunded to them and we wanted to make sure we brought this information to you and make sure that it was available to the | 00:05:34 | |
| general public also. | 00:05:39 | |
| We also would like to clarify that this information was. | 00:05:45 | |
| Put in the advertisements that are in the newspaper and online and we had it in time to update that. We just needed to bring it to | 00:05:50 | |
| you this morning. | 00:05:54 | |
| OK. But you don't need any action? No, thank you. This is just a presentation. All right. Thank you. Supervisor Humphrey. I, I | 00:05:59 | |
| have no questions by the client. Yeah. Good. Thank you very much, Marion. Thank you. OK. | 00:06:05 | |
| Let's move on into our regular agenda, items 3A. | 00:06:11 | |
| Information, discussion and action. | 00:06:15 | |
| Or action to ratify the Board of Supervisors Approval for the Sheriff's Office Electronics in middle of the Fiscal year 2025. | 00:06:18 | |
| Drug, Gang and Violent Crime control grant application to the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission. The amount of $862,147.73. | 00:06:27 | |
| To renew grant funding that will be used or. | 00:06:37 | |
| The salaries and benefits of the Sheriff's Office Drug Gang Violent Crimes Task Force. | 00:06:41 | |
| There were this Travis actually. | 00:06:47 | |
| Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the Board, on behalf of Sheriff Shepard, I'm here to present our application process | 00:06:50 | |
| through the Arizona Criminal Justice Commission. | 00:06:55 | |
| For the fiscal year? | 00:07:01 | |
| 25 for the drug gang of Violent Crimes Task Force. | 00:07:03 | |
| We feel that this is a vital part. | 00:07:07 | |
| The Sheriff's Office and the law enforcement enforcement actions that we take in Helen County. | 00:07:10 | |
| Without this type of funding the type of arrest and. | 00:07:16 | |
| Friends that are committed within our jurisdiction. | 00:07:19 | |
| Would not be. | 00:07:22 | |
| We wouldn't be able to do it. We've had an astonishing year in the number of. | 00:07:24 | |
| Outfit and all the rest and. | 00:07:29 | |
| Those coincides with exactly what we're saying across the state, the county, as well as the nation and the fentanyl. | 00:07:32 | |
| Overdoses and deaths that we're seeing. | 00:07:39 | |
| So on behalf of the Sheriff Shepherd, I'd like to request that the board approve the grant for 862,147 thousand and $0.73. | 00:07:42 | |
| For the Fiscal Year 25 Drug gang and violent crimes test version. | 00:07:54 | |
| Thank you, Supervisor Humphrey. | 00:07:58 | |
| Yeah, I just thank you for all you do. And I only have one question is that I I'm just curious, I understand salaries but benefits | 00:08:01 | |
| is that for equipment, is that I guess I don't understand what the ERE? | 00:08:07 | |
| OK. The medical retirement? | 00:08:14 | |
| OK, OK. | 00:08:18 | |
| Good enough. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Yeah. Well, yeah, 'cause it. | 00:08:20 | |
| Just just checking. | 00:08:26 | |
| Supervisor Klein. | 00:08:29 | |
| Travis, thank you for everything you guys do and. | 00:08:30 | |
| Yells. How many is on your task force now? We had three as of last week and one retired. | 00:08:33 | |
| So we're down to two, we're back to two. | 00:08:40 | |
| So with our border issues going on to the South of us, have you guys seen an increase in any of the activities or what do you | 00:08:42 | |
| think? | 00:08:48 | |
| And what comes with drugs? Are you violent crimes? | 00:08:55 | |
| We've had an increase in gains. We have a lot of people coming out of prison. | 00:08:58 | |
| Who are gang affiliated? And our crimes are just skyrocketing. | 00:09:03 | |
| We're doing what we can do with the 20. Absolutely. I I just thought, you know I've I've asked you this question for eight years | 00:09:08 | |
| now and. | 00:09:11 | |
| You know, and I've always wanted to have us in a position where we could bump your task force. | 00:09:15 | |
| Up, and I would greatly appreciate that. And so with the citizens I. | 00:09:21 | |
| Can imagine that you know and and and that's been. | 00:09:26 | |
| Since a long time ago, but now literally with the with the issues from the border, I was pretty sure that's what was the. | 00:09:30 | |
| What you were going to say, you know? And so with that, you know, one thing I'll just throw out there is. | 00:09:37 | |
| Is I will be pushing to try and well let me ask you this first. | 00:09:42 | |
| Your task force is usually made-up from other agencies around you. Right? Right now it consists of the Sheriff's Office and the | 00:09:47 | |
| global Police Department. | 00:09:50 | |
| And what about Game and Fish, DPS and the rest of them? Is it because they just don't have the officers to put out there to help | 00:09:55 | |
| you or kind of the combination of? | 00:09:59 | |
| So what we've done? | 00:10:04 | |
| When we can't bring them into the task force because of the funding is so low, then we work together. We work cases. Just last | 00:10:06 | |
| week we worked a case with the State Game Task Force. | 00:10:12 | |
| And we were successful in the operation. This just goes to show the camaraderie and the collaborations that we do. | 00:10:19 | |
| We're doing with the Payson Police Department, DPS, Globe, Miami, even outside the county. | 00:10:27 | |
| Thank you, Sir. | 00:10:34 | |
| Supervisor climb So we're getting ready to present an item to you guys. | 00:10:37 | |
| Here shortly, it's some border security money. | 00:10:41 | |
| That's actually being funneled through the Department of Public Safety and to the Sheriff's Office. | 00:10:44 | |
| So I'm here in the next, either the next meeting or the next one, you guys will have an opportunity to approve that which is going | 00:10:50 | |
| to bring some additional you put in for physicians. | 00:10:57 | |
| And vehicles. | 00:11:04 | |
| So that's going to bring some additional funding that we're hoping that we can streamline towards. | 00:11:05 | |
| Kind of the canine task force those type of. | 00:11:11 | |
| Officers to help with this issue so so have some stuff coming. | 00:11:16 | |
| That would be really cool, Sarah. So this money is going to go towards the Sheriff's Office in general, but. | 00:11:22 | |
| The sheriff is thinking about funneling some of it towards our task force. | 00:11:28 | |
| Did the letter to them. We submitted it for 3K9 positions. | 00:11:33 | |
| And three K9 vehicles is what we put it in for now. What that's going to allow us to do is either create them. | 00:11:39 | |
| Or going to allow us to pay the ones we currently have and then that will free up some positions to maybe possibly move around and | 00:11:49 | |
| do some things. | 00:11:52 | |
| Again, you know, the Sheriff's Office is short staffed overall for law enforcement in our county. And so where those resources go | 00:11:58 | |
| and who were able to hire and what we're able to do is going to determine how we do that. But just so you know, we're always | 00:12:05 | |
| actively looking for money because this is such a critical part to our county and this is one thing that is going to come through. | 00:12:11 | |
| What we're being told is that this money will hopefully continue. | 00:12:18 | |
| To be appropriated at the state legislature level through the Department of Public Safety. So we're hoping this year has spread | 00:12:26 | |
| out 500,000, it's about $502,000 and So what we're helping is if that will continue. | 00:12:33 | |
| Every year that's on top of this AC JC money, so it should give us the ability to do some different things. | 00:12:40 | |
| Sarah saw while you're here, and Travis if and Travis, you know you're sending it to people. | 00:12:48 | |
| What kind of additional cost would it take to get other agencies to come in and bump you to like 6 people? | 00:12:55 | |
| So what we have is, is everybody is of course it's always about the money, right? And so. | 00:13:01 | |
| When we're able to give funding for a position and the ERE. | 00:13:10 | |
| That's really what's enticing to people, other agencies, right, Because then there's no cost to them. It's all being paid out of | 00:13:16 | |
| the. | 00:13:20 | |
| And. | 00:13:24 | |
| In order to do that, and I think I. | 00:13:26 | |
| Travis, this 862 I think. | 00:13:29 | |
| Includes. | 00:13:33 | |
| Two outside agency positions plus us, but we have in there and I believe a clerical position. | 00:13:35 | |
| So I mean you're looking at just to add 2 to the outside? | 00:13:43 | |
| Agencies, it's quite a bit because it's again their salaries, their retirement. Also it depends on, you know, some of their | 00:13:48 | |
| retirement can be as high as 56%. | 00:13:53 | |
| Right, right. So that's what we're looking at right now. But I just wanted to let you know like we're always looking and this is | 00:13:58 | |
| One Ave. that we found. | 00:14:03 | |
| The sheriff is obviously dedicated to this, so we could have used that money, you know, anywhere in the agency, but we're really | 00:14:09 | |
| trying to get the money funneled to this program and for these. | 00:14:14 | |
| I'm officers so. | 00:14:19 | |
| So just what for what it's worth, I'd really like to schedule a meeting with you guys and and Mr. Menlov sometime and sit down and | 00:14:21 | |
| talk more about this because this is just going to get bad and it will already has So and I'll have all the information for you | 00:14:27 | |
| guys. Like I said, I'll be presenting it here in the next couple meetings. So I'll have it all for you and we can sit down and | 00:14:32 | |
| really look at the full picture. Thank you. Sarah Travis, thank you for everybody. Thank you. That's working out there. Appreciate | 00:14:37 | |
| it. | 00:14:43 | |
| Yes, thank you for that. And Travis can ask you a question real quick. So this 862,000, is that more than last year? | 00:14:49 | |
| Well, it's it's the amount that we figure with budget through the budget and salary process. | 00:14:57 | |
| We always ask for the moon and then we end up getting. | 00:15:05 | |
| You know, so usually we're in the vicinity about 300 and 3300 and 40,000 is what we get awarded. OK. All right. | 00:15:10 | |
| Thank you. So, Well, if there's nothing else then I'll call for a motion. | 00:15:20 | |
| Mr. Chair, I move to ratify the Board of Supervisors approval for the Sheriff's Office, electronics and. | 00:15:25 | |
| Of the physical year 2025. Drug, gang and violence. | 00:15:32 | |
| And Mr. Chair, I'll second that Second page Crimes and Control Grant Application to the Arizona Criminal Justice. | 00:15:36 | |
| Commission as presented. I'll second it again. | 00:15:46 | |
| They have a couple motions and seconds there. All those in favor say aye. | 00:15:52 | |
| Thank you, Travis. Thank you, Sir. | 00:15:56 | |
| OK. Thank you, Sheriff. | 00:15:59 | |
| Item 3B. Information discussion and action to approve the use of. | 00:16:03 | |
| One Government Procurement Alliance Contract number 2202 EB 18. | 00:16:09 | |
| With Sentinel technologies incorporated in the amount of $92,368.54 for the purchase of. | 00:16:16 | |
| 85 Meraki Mr. 28 Wireless Access Point. | 00:16:24 | |
| Appliances with a 10 year license. | 00:16:30 | |
| Good morning, Chairman Christensen and Board members. I'd like to request the replacement of all of our wireless access points | 00:16:34 | |
| within the county. This upgrade is essential to managing the security on both of our internal and external wireless networks. | 00:16:41 | |
| By deploying the new Meraki access points, we can better manage and implement more robust security protocols, aligning ourselves | 00:16:47 | |
| with enterprise. | 00:16:51 | |
| Best practices. This is part of our capital request for the year. I can answer any questions you may have. Thank you, Terry. | 00:16:56 | |
| Supervisor Humphrey. | 00:16:59 | |
| I have no questions and the only comment is I think security is really important when it comes to. | 00:17:04 | |
| What's going on in our world today? | 00:17:10 | |
| So yeah, thank you, Supervisor Klein. So I agree with Supervisor Humphrey. | 00:17:12 | |
| Carry, but wireless access, access point appliances? That means what? So your wireless access points are your wireless. They're | 00:17:18 | |
| the devices that are. | 00:17:23 | |
| In each of the buildings that allows you to connect to the Internet, either internal or external. OK, All right. Thank you for | 00:17:29 | |
| that. Oh, you're welcome. | 00:17:32 | |
| Yeah. Thank you, Carrie. I appreciate you keeping us up to date. We need to keep our cybersecurity. | 00:17:37 | |
| Up to date. So with that, I'll call for a motion. Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve the use of 1 governmental Government | 00:17:42 | |
| procurement Alliance Contract number 22002. | 00:17:48 | |
| PV-18 with Sentinel Technologies incorporated as presented. | 00:17:54 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll second that. OK, motion. And a second to approve those in favor. Say aye, Aye. | 00:18:00 | |
| Thank you. | 00:18:06 | |
| Item 3C. Information Discussion Action to adopt revised policy number. | 00:18:08 | |
| EOS Dash Fi and 016 Community. | 00:18:13 | |
| Agency and Economic development funding. Again, Maryland. Good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Supervisor Klein. Good morning, | 00:18:17 | |
| Supervisor Humphrey. We brought this item to you at our last work session to discuss. | 00:18:23 | |
| As you're aware, there's been an ongoing audit finding for the past six audit years. | 00:18:30 | |
| Requesting that we come up with a policy that we follow regarding how economic development funding is awarded and how we document | 00:18:38 | |
| that we followed up with those agencies to ensure that the funds are being used correctly. | 00:18:47 | |
| Today's policy. | 00:18:58 | |
| Takes what our current protocol is and puts it into writing and adopts it for you. | 00:19:01 | |
| With the attached policy there is a policy and then. | 00:19:08 | |
| Subsequent to Chairman's signature, there is another document attached in line that provides the process and procedure which | 00:19:12 | |
| you're all currently following with administrative staff. | 00:19:18 | |
| If you choose to adopt this policy today, finance will be back on the 16th of April with a year to date report so that we are | 00:19:26 | |
| providing an ongoing update both to the Board of Supervisors and to the constituency about how much has been expended in economic | 00:19:34 | |
| development grants, to whom those grants are made, and documenting that we're doing our follow up. | 00:19:42 | |
| Happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you Supervisor Humphrey. | 00:19:52 | |
| I I thank them very much for making this so much more difficult for us and the constituents from what everybody was used to prior. | 00:19:57 | |
| But I understand how important it is that that we keep up with our audits because of the benefits. | 00:20:05 | |
| From it. And so I guess the pain is worth it. So thank you very much. I appreciate you keeping us where we need to be. | 00:20:13 | |
| They will be here in person. I believe it's on May 7th. | 00:20:22 | |
| If you have additional feedback to share with with them. | 00:20:26 | |
| Supervisor I would. I thank you. | 00:20:32 | |
| For for giving me the heads up, I have a time. | 00:20:35 | |
| And I said they would want my comment. He could have been through the county. | 00:20:41 | |
| Right. You know, you know, this is just one of the gifts we get for being so far behind on our audits 7 years ago or whatever it | 00:20:47 | |
| was. But you guys have done an awesome job of getting all that caught up. And if we have to go through these hoops, that's what | 00:20:52 | |
| we're going to have to go through. Hunt, Jessica. | 00:20:57 | |
| So I do see in here there is going to be more work that's going to have to be involved from our standpoint. | 00:21:04 | |
| I'll Grant and Barrett. | 00:21:14 | |
| Thank you. | 00:21:15 | |
| I appreciate your help. Is Kathy grinning? Well, she is. She won't be here through it also. | 00:21:17 | |
| So thank you. | 00:21:24 | |
| So if I understand your comments, without going line by line on this, you're just putting into writing what we are currently. | 00:21:25 | |
| Doing our conduct is currently with regard to. | 00:21:35 | |
| The constituent funds and. | 00:21:40 | |
| Economic Development Grants. So the attached policy is. | 00:21:43 | |
| Putting into writing exactly what you just said, putting into writing what our current protocol is. You will, as I mentioned to | 00:21:48 | |
| Supervisor Humphrey at the auditor's office, will be here in person in May. There is another finding for 2023 because this policy | 00:21:53 | |
| hadn't been enacted. | 00:21:58 | |
| Assuming that we enact this policy today. | 00:22:05 | |
| Then the finding for 2024 will be a reflection of whether or not we've actually. | 00:22:09 | |
| Followed this to the letter including the monthly reporting and the ongoing updates from the recipient. | 00:22:16 | |
| OK, great. So, yeah, this is just another thing that we need to have in place to make sure that the Auditor General is. | 00:22:23 | |
| Happy with the way we conduct our paperwork. | 00:22:30 | |
| I mean in a nutshell. | 00:22:34 | |
| Well we gotta be within the statute of law too right now. You know and I understand that you know and what I see is is I think | 00:22:36 | |
| we're doing my opinion is we're doing a good job now but I see where we're gonna have to we'll have more documentation is what it | 00:22:41 | |
| how it addresses the public and the. | 00:22:47 | |
| What's the benefits to the county? Yada yada yada. I just see more work on that side of it. | 00:22:53 | |
| Probably what we've been doing and also the reporting back from the receiving parties or organizations. | 00:22:58 | |
| And something we'll have to keep up with. | 00:23:05 | |
| And that I think it will be a big. | 00:23:07 | |
| Probably a big training curve on our part, because most of them are. | 00:23:10 | |
| Aren't doing that. They haven't done that and so I have to be up front and address but. | 00:23:14 | |
| We'll get there, I guess. | 00:23:20 | |
| And we'll continue to work with the county attorney's office if there are areas for improvement. | 00:23:22 | |
| So Marin will this if if we approve this now, does it go? Does it enact immediately? | 00:23:28 | |
| Yes, it would effectively be. | 00:23:34 | |
| The entire current fiscal year. | 00:23:37 | |
| So we go it would it would cover us back to July 1. | 00:23:39 | |
| I see. Because we've been following this. This just totifies it. I see. Gotcha. OK with that, Mister Jeff. I mean, this is policy | 00:23:43 | |
| we're setting on ourselves, and so we can change it later if we need to, too. | 00:23:50 | |
| That made some eyes open. | 00:23:58 | |
| Yeah, yes. | 00:24:00 | |
| Cool. I like that part of it. | 00:24:04 | |
| I have to make sure I double check with Jessica before I can't give you legal advice. | 00:24:07 | |
| OK. Any other comments? | 00:24:13 | |
| If not, I'll call for motion. | 00:24:15 | |
| Mr. Chair, I moved to adopt revised policy number BOSFIN 016. | 00:24:18 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll second that. OK, We have a motion and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye, Aye. | 00:24:25 | |
| Thank you, Mara. Thank you. We'll be back on April 16th with your report. | 00:24:31 | |
| OK, OK, Item 3 DI have information, discussion and action or action to repeal. | 00:24:36 | |
| Resolution #23-09-03 and adopt A resolution #24-03-02 which authorizes the cemental of an application for a Clean Water State | 00:24:44 | |
| revolving Fund loan from the Water Infrastructure Authority of Arizona's auction speed $250,000 which will be used for the Gila | 00:24:51 | |
| County Cesspool Capital Improvement project. And we have Kaylee with us. Good morning. Good morning, Mr. Chairman, members of the | 00:24:58 | |
| Board. | 00:25:06 | |
| As stated, this is a request to repeal a resolution we brought to you in September. | 00:25:14 | |
| And replace it with an updated resolution because we are required to designate a funding source to repay the. | 00:25:18 | |
| The loan, even though it is a 100% forgivable loan, they just needed verbiage in there. So we worked with our county attorney's | 00:25:28 | |
| office to put that in there. | 00:25:31 | |
| And then like you said, this is so that we can finally submit. | 00:25:36 | |
| Hopefully for the last time on this application so we can work on these testicles. Happy to answer any questions. OK. Thank you | 00:25:40 | |
| Kaylee Proviso Humphrey. | 00:25:44 | |
| So this this will be funds that will be available for constituents who qualify for failing cesspool to. | 00:25:49 | |
| Receive perhaps a septic tank and leave system. | 00:25:58 | |
| Yes. | 00:26:02 | |
| OK, OK. | 00:26:04 | |
| Yeah, just just just careful, but but the qualification is the important part of what? | 00:26:08 | |
| Is going to be. This is going to be funded for. | 00:26:15 | |
| OK. Thank you very much. | 00:26:19 | |
| Supervisor Klein. | 00:26:21 | |
| So I so I get what you're saying about this is. | 00:26:26 | |
| Is going to be paid back anyway, but. | 00:26:32 | |
| So we're the, we're the ones that's actually asking for this fund loan, Kaylee. | 00:26:37 | |
| This is confusing to me. I guess Chairman member supervisors. So to my understanding this is a new program. | 00:26:44 | |
| And they do not currently have documentation for the actual agreement. This is to submit the application now. | 00:26:54 | |
| At any point, you guys could repeal this resolution or not move forward with the agreement once we have that documentation. But | 00:27:04 | |
| for now, we are being advised that this is a 100% forgivable loan. | 00:27:11 | |
| Now, of course, the county attorney's office is going to review the documents to see what language is in there to see if the | 00:27:18 | |
| county is going to be on the hook for any sort of amount of these funds. | 00:27:23 | |
| But again, that's a second process. This is just for the application. | 00:27:29 | |
| Well, OK. | 00:27:34 | |
| Thank you, Jessica. Yes. | 00:27:38 | |
| Thank you Kaylee. Nasty topic. | 00:27:42 | |
| So. | 00:27:46 | |
| OK. So we're revising some language with that I will call for a motion. | 00:27:48 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to repeal Resolution #23-09-03. | 00:27:54 | |
| And adopt resolution #24-03-02. | 00:28:01 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll second that motion and a second to approve all those in favor. Say aye. Aye. Thank you, Kaylee. | 00:28:07 | |
| Ready. | 00:28:14 | |
| Item 3. Information discussion or action to approve amendment number one to contract agreement number Ctr. 063953 with Stantec | 00:28:18 | |
| Consulting Services. | 00:28:24 | |
| Incorporated to extend the contract for the Monroe St. Improvement Project through August 30th, 2024 in the amount not to exceed | 00:28:31 | |
| $123,495.51. | 00:28:37 | |
| Good morning, Alex. | 00:28:44 | |
| Mr. Chairman, Board, thank you for having me back. As you know at the end of January, the work session, I had Chris Eggers from | 00:28:46 | |
| Stantec with me here and we presented a few options before you guys on the Monroe St. some opportunities to save a little money | 00:28:51 | |
| and make the project better. | 00:28:56 | |
| In essence, getting the best project for Eagle County that we could. You guys gave us plenty of feedback. | 00:29:03 | |
| The issue that arose from that is the contract expired a few days after we had had that conversation. So this is a. | 00:29:08 | |
| No cost to the county. So the number given was the originally approved number, but we would like to extend their contract through | 00:29:17 | |
| August so that we can get all of the ideas put together and brought back before you guys for approval. | 00:29:23 | |
| So that we have the best product for Gila County. | 00:29:30 | |
| Hey, thank you Alex. Supervisor Humphrey. | 00:29:33 | |
| Yeah, it's been like this for a long time, so to me it's worth the delay. | 00:29:36 | |
| To get the best project that we can. So thank you very much for working with them and us to to get the best project that we can | 00:29:40 | |
| out of it even if it does extend the the project some so. | 00:29:47 | |
| I thank you very much for working with that supervisor claim, Alex. Do you think this will be the last extension though? I mean | 00:29:53 | |
| the end will get done. That is the plan right now. That would be a good plan from my standpoint. | 00:30:00 | |
| So I mean, I see it and we stretch things out and prices change and things go up and. | 00:30:07 | |
| So if we can get done with this this go around that would be great. | 00:30:14 | |
| Thank you. That is what we are pushing for. Yes, right on. | 00:30:18 | |
| Think Alex, with that, I'll call for motion. | 00:30:21 | |
| Mr. Move to approve to approve amendment number one to contract agreement number CCR 0615953 with Santex Consulting Services | 00:30:25 | |
| Incorporated as presented. And Mr. Chair, I'll second that. OK Motion to approve and I second all those in favor say aye, aye, | 00:30:31 | |
| aye. | 00:30:38 | |
| Thank you, Alex. Thank you. | 00:30:46 | |
| The next item is 3F Information Discussion Action to Approve Amendment number One to Service Agreement Number 011124, Installation | 00:30:48 | |
| of Animal Control Box C-111. | 00:30:54 | |
| With Heart Straw Manufacturing LLC to extend the term of the contract from February 16th, 24 to June 30th, 2024 with a not to | 00:31:00 | |
| exceed the amount of $51,229. | 00:31:07 | |
| Now JC. | 00:31:16 | |
| Good morning, Chairman, members of the morning back in February 6th, 2024, the Board approved contract 011124 for the installation | 00:31:17 | |
| of the animal control box onto our animal. The new truck that we are getting from the time it took the purchase order to be | 00:31:25 | |
| executed and sent to the company, there's just not enough time to finish the project. So we're asking the Board to amend the | 00:31:34 | |
| service agreement and to extend it for an additional two months so they would be plenty of time to finish the project. | 00:31:42 | |
| And I'll entertain any questions. Thank you. Supervisor Humphrey. I have no questions Mr. | 00:31:50 | |
| OK, Supervisor Klein. | 00:31:56 | |
| Casey, is this the original amount? We started with 51,000, OK? | 00:31:59 | |
| Yeah. OK. Cool. I'm, I'm kind of like with what I told Alex, we need to get it done. Yeah. And I I I think I on the e-mail, I | 00:32:04 | |
| think it's going to be, it's going to take about 3 to 4 weeks to get it complete. So I think the the end of the additional two | 00:32:11 | |
| months would would make for sure to spend a time Good deal. Thank you. Yes, thank you. And with that I will call for a motion. | 00:32:19 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve amendment number one to service, Agreement number 011124 is presented. | 00:32:27 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll second that. We have a motion in a second to approve those in favor. Say aye. | 00:32:35 | |
| Thank you. | 00:32:41 | |
| And item 3G. Information Discussion Action to approve the Use of State Arizona Contract Agreement number Ctr. 061839 with Skyline | 00:32:42 | |
| Builders and Restoration in the amount of $1,877,186.16. | 00:32:53 | |
| For the Payson Courthouse Remodel project. | 00:33:04 | |
| Joseph Good Morning Chairman Board of Supervisors at the Board of Supervisors work session that took place on January 30th, 2024 | 00:33:06 | |
| with Facilities and Land Management Department. | 00:33:11 | |
| Presented a review of the patient Courthouse remodel project. | 00:33:17 | |
| Project aims to address several challenges. | 00:33:20 | |
| While modernizing the 40 plus year. | 00:33:23 | |
| Infrastructure. | 00:33:26 | |
| The 13,848 square foot facility. | 00:33:29 | |
| Which has two floors. | 00:33:33 | |
| The primary objective of the remodel are to optimize the courts first floor operational space. | 00:33:34 | |
| Establish a security checkpoint. | 00:33:40 | |
| And ensure life and safety infrastructure such as fire monitoring system, fire suppression system and the compliance with the | 00:33:42 | |
| American with Disabilities Act 88. | 00:33:47 | |
| As part of the renovation project, we will also upgrade the facilities, paving, roofing, HVAC, electrical and mechanical to meet | 00:33:52 | |
| the standard requirements. | 00:33:56 | |
| After reviewing the patient courthouse remodel project and have evaluated the objectives and the goals of the renovation. | 00:34:01 | |
| Project is aimed at addressing several challenges while modernizing the 40 plus year infrastructure of the courthouse. The primary | 00:34:08 | |
| goals. | 00:34:11 | |
| Of the renovation are to optimize operational space again and to establish life and safety infrastructure. | 00:34:15 | |
| The Religion Land Management recommends proceeding with the renovation project. Proposed remodel is classified as a Level 3 | 00:34:21 | |
| alteration according to International Building Code. Therefore, the project must install fire suppression and monitoring system | 00:34:26 | |
| based on the facility square footage. | 00:34:30 | |
| And occupancy load. | 00:34:35 | |
| Upgrades to the facilities, paving, roofing, a track, electrical and mechanical systems are necessary to meet the standard | 00:34:38 | |
| requirements and improve the safety and functionality of the building. | 00:34:42 | |
| Establishing a fire suppression monitoring system, security checkpoint and compliance with ADA regulations. | 00:34:47 | |
| We're sure a safer and more accessible environment. | 00:34:52 | |
| For all visitors and employees improving the operational space. | 00:34:55 | |
| Will help streamline court proceedings and enhance the overall efficiency of the courts courthouse. | 00:35:00 | |
| The renovation project has been planned and budgeted and we expect to obtain the primary funding. | 00:35:06 | |
| From ARPA. Additionally, we will receive support for the project in the form of $120,000 from Judge Wright Superior Court | 00:35:11 | |
| Administrative Fund. | 00:35:15 | |
| With that, I'd be happy to take any questions. Joseph Supervisor Humphrey. | 00:35:22 | |
| Well, I'm glad to see the funds are available. I just, you know, I mean we put a lot of thought and interest in everything in | 00:35:28 | |
| building this and now we're spending a ton of money remodeling it and so. | 00:35:33 | |
| I'm glad that the funding is there and that. | 00:35:38 | |
| It's going to go forward. I just. I just hope that we're. | 00:35:42 | |
| We're pretty much finished with remodels on the newest building to Gila County and that's my only comments. Thank you. Thank you. | 00:35:45 | |
| Supervisor. Client. So James, this ARPA money is the last of the ARPA money, right? I mean we're we're obligated spent however you | 00:35:54 | |
| want to put it. | 00:35:58 | |
| Mr. Chairman Work and this treasure. | 00:36:03 | |
| Fine, We're pretty darn close. | 00:36:05 | |
| OK. Yeah. | 00:36:08 | |
| So their their original 10 and a half million dollars of. | 00:36:09 | |
| Right. We still have a little bit laughter, I believe so, yes. | 00:36:13 | |
| OK. | 00:36:18 | |
| Good morning, Chairman, Mr. Borg. | 00:36:23 | |
| With this project, minus this project away from the original 10.5, we're down to about $400,000. | 00:36:25 | |
| With the remaining ARPA funding, so Mr. Mendel is absolutely correct. We're we're right there. So Michael with that thought this | 00:36:33 | |
| 24 was the year we had to have a spin or obligated, right. So I mean this is the year we have to have it balanced out. We had to | 00:36:39 | |
| have it spent completely by December 20. | 00:36:45 | |
| 25 Oh, OK sort of. | 00:36:51 | |
| Planned out before December 2024. | 00:36:54 | |
| OK. We're right on target for that. | 00:36:58 | |
| The reason I ask is because like with any project, it's something that's just a little off and this 1.8. | 00:37:01 | |
| Doesn't seem to do it. We still have a little bit of money floating out there to make something up if we had to. | 00:37:07 | |
| Right. | 00:37:13 | |
| Mr. Chairman, this is a job order type contract and so if there are any overages, it's up to the contractor there. By approving | 00:37:15 | |
| this today that is locked in and there will not be any overages. Scope has been established by Joseph and his team. | 00:37:23 | |
| And so that 400,000 can go also? | 00:37:31 | |
| Good. That's even better. Thank you, Joseph. Thanks, Michael. | 00:37:34 | |
| Mr. Chairman. | 00:37:38 | |
| Yes Sir can also find out that this this is not an improvement to or model of the PCM building. This is the. | 00:37:39 | |
| Older courthouse. | 00:37:46 | |
| That is being removed. | 00:37:47 | |
| So the new building reconstructed. | 00:37:49 | |
| We're not touching that. | 00:37:52 | |
| This is all on that older building, the two-story courthouse that said and. | 00:37:54 | |
| Right, Joseph, is that about 50 year old building? | 00:38:00 | |
| I had 40 cluster 40 plus right? Yeah. | 00:38:04 | |
| So it's I think it's fantastic that we have the money to spend American rescue plan. | 00:38:08 | |
| Money that we don't have to match or anything. So this is really a one time opportunity to get it done and do it right. Yes, Sir. | 00:38:17 | |
| OK, so. | 00:38:22 | |
| We're locked into this figure and it's not on topic, but I presume there's been plans made for the last. | 00:38:28 | |
| 400,000 of ARPA money we need to commit to before the end of the year. | 00:38:35 | |
| You guys talking about that? | 00:38:41 | |
| Yes, Sir. Roy's looking. Yeah, we don't want to have any money in the pocket. | 00:38:44 | |
| Right, OK. | 00:38:49 | |
| OK, with. | 00:38:51 | |
| I'll call for. | 00:38:53 | |
| Mr. Chair, I move to approve the use of the State of Arizona Contract Agreement number Ctr. 061839 with Skyline Builders and | 00:38:54 | |
| Restoration Incorporated as presented. Mr. Chair, I'll second that. OK. A motion to approve and seconded those in favor. Say aye, | 00:39:01 | |
| aye, aye. | 00:39:08 | |
| Thank you, Joseph. Thank you. Yeah. | 00:39:15 | |
| Do we know how long that project is going to take Joseph just to? | 00:39:18 | |
| After just off the cuff there, we have to have it done by the. | 00:39:22 | |
| And a 25, right? | 00:39:28 | |
| Chairman, Board of Supervisors. Good news, We're going to fall well within that timeline. | 00:39:30 | |
| With us being able to move forward, we're anticipating anywhere from a four to six month project. | 00:39:34 | |
| That being said, boys looking to expedite. | 00:39:40 | |
| And I'm sorry, I'm just keep asking questions, but it's uh. | 00:39:43 | |
| I do know there's contractors that would like to bid on. | 00:39:48 | |
| Say the sprinkler system, I presume that this company that we're hiring. | 00:39:51 | |
| Be putting out kids and things like that to their advantage as well as ours to go local. | 00:39:56 | |
| Great. Thank you, Joseph. Thank you. | 00:40:04 | |
| OK, our last item 3H in category #3 information discussion, action to approve Economic development Agreement number 03132024 | 00:40:07 | |
| between the county and the RIM country Chamber of Commerce in the amount of $2500, which the board is determined to be for the | 00:40:14 | |
| benefit of the public. James. | 00:40:20 | |
| Mr. Chairman, Members, the Board, The RIM Country Chamber of Commerce. | 00:40:28 | |
| They used to have a monthly luncheon. They changed their format a little bit and they're doing quarterly events. | 00:40:32 | |
| Quarterly events I attended the last one. | 00:40:38 | |
| There was quite a few people there. | 00:40:42 | |
| But they like to have this at no cost to those that come and participate in it. | 00:40:44 | |
| Their proposed. | 00:40:50 | |
| Event for April is regarding tourism and economic development in that region of the county. | 00:40:52 | |
| And have asked and this is actually a part will be a partnership with the kind of Payson. | 00:41:00 | |
| Cost to put on the event is about $5000 Town of Payson has agreed to. | 00:41:06 | |
| Support the event by 2500 dollars. | 00:41:11 | |
| And we were asking that the. | 00:41:14 | |
| Request has come to either county and requesting divorce approved $2500 support this event. | 00:41:17 | |
| That is currently scheduled for April 20. | 00:41:23 | |
| Regarding tourism and economic development and. | 00:41:26 | |
| Northern Heath accounting. | 00:41:30 | |
| I this will come from constituent funds. | 00:41:31 | |
| I believe District One and District 3 have agreed to. | 00:41:35 | |
| Split the cost for this. | 00:41:39 | |
| OK. Thank you, James. Any questions, Supervisor Humphrey? | 00:41:41 | |
| No questions, Supervisor Klein. | 00:41:45 | |
| James, That's still being held on Tuesdays, right? | 00:41:48 | |
| The chamber luncheon up there. | 00:41:52 | |
| April 26th. | 00:41:55 | |
| Let me tell me what day you think that is. | 00:41:57 | |
| I think it's a Thursday. | 00:42:00 | |
| OK. Or Friday? | 00:42:01 | |
| It's later in the week, it's not on Tuesday, so they've changed their days then. | 00:42:03 | |
| That is a Friday, Friday. | 00:42:08 | |
| And and will that be their normal chamber luncheons? | 00:42:10 | |
| They're not holding the monthly chamber luncheons right anymore. They've converted to the orderly quarterly. | 00:42:13 | |
| Events where this is a 5 hour. | 00:42:20 | |
| 5-6 hour event starting at 9:10 in the morning. Go until two or three in the afternoon. | 00:42:24 | |
| We used to attend those on Tuesdays after our board meetings were pulled up there and they were really good, real informative. And | 00:42:29 | |
| a lot of people, yeah, and that's the same. A lot of people attend good events. They're well programmed, well thought out, very | 00:42:35 | |
| protective in the the presentations and discussions and. | 00:42:41 | |
| And the instructors that are there for that and so very effective and worthwhile event. | 00:42:47 | |
| Thank you. Yes, thanks James. And with that I'll call for motion, Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve economic development. | 00:42:54 | |
| Agreement number 03132024. | 00:43:02 | |
| Between Gila County and around country Chamber of Commerce in the amount of $2500, which the board has determined to be for the | 00:43:07 | |
| benefit of the public. | 00:43:11 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'll second motion to approve and 2nd of In Favor Say aye, Aye, Aye, aye. Thank you. Item number four is our consent | 00:43:16 | |
| agenda action item. | 00:43:22 | |
| Would Supervisor Humphrey, Is there any of the consent agenda items that you would like to remove from the? | 00:43:29 | |
| No answer to gender. OK. Supervisor Klein I I'm good as well. So am I. Nice. So I'll call for a motion on the consent agenda items | 00:43:37 | |
| A through F. | 00:43:42 | |
| Mr. I move to approve consent agenda items for A through or F, and I will second that motion to approve. And second, all those in | 00:43:48 | |
| favor say aye, aye. | 00:43:54 | |
| OK. We have come to the call to the public, but we're, hey, we're doing good on time. I've got quite a number here and I think we | 00:44:02 | |
| do have some in payment as well. | 00:44:07 | |
| So. | 00:44:14 | |
| Cassandra, is there anyone on the Internet that? | 00:44:16 | |
| Not yet, OK. | 00:44:20 | |
| All right. So he called to the public is something that we offer at the end of the meetings to address the Board of Supervisors on | 00:44:22 | |
| any issue within the jurisdiction of the Board of Supervisors. | 00:44:27 | |
| The Board members may not discuss items that are not specifically identified on the agenda, so therefore, pursuant of Arizona | 00:44:33 | |
| Statute 38, Dash 431.01 H at the conclusion of an open call to the public. | 00:44:40 | |
| By those who've been addressed, addressed, the board may ask staff to review a matter or may ask what a matter. | 00:44:49 | |
| That a matter be put on a future agenda or future discussion? | 00:44:56 | |
| At a future date and also respond to any criticism so. | 00:45:01 | |
| Long as everyone understands that, we've got quite a few today. | 00:45:07 | |
| And we're going to limit your comments to 3 minutes, please. | 00:45:10 | |
| And so our first speaker is Adam Baugh. | 00:45:16 | |
| And I remember an e-mail from him and he would like to discuss the short term. | 00:45:21 | |
| Rental ordinance. | 00:45:27 | |
| Kind of surprises. Thanks for your time. I typically have a lawyer, landing attorney. I represent developers across the state. | 00:45:30 | |
| This is unusual for me to actually be here on my own accord. | 00:45:34 | |
| Different when you're trying to protect your own property rights versus trying to build a neighborhood subdivision, but it's | 00:45:39 | |
| important to me and that's why I'm here. | 00:45:42 | |
| I represent a group of 250 people. I wouldn't say represent, but I lead them and that's in the finest job area. | 00:45:46 | |
| And as a result I represent. | 00:45:52 | |
| Developers throughout the state. | 00:45:54 | |
| In the implementation, the craft and the draft, and of zoning ordinances. | 00:45:56 | |
| So with special attention, I've looked at yours. | 00:46:00 | |
| And it surprises me that in order to be adopted without. | 00:46:03 | |
| Really soliciting impact from various stakeholders who it most directly impacts. | 00:46:07 | |
| We don't have time to discuss all things. I want to be respectful. If you mentioned giving me, so I'll just point out to four | 00:46:12 | |
| things that I think would be helpful. I know we have a meeting in the future that I'll love to elaborate more than further, #1. | 00:46:17 | |
| I think the ordinance is vague and ambiguous in some spots. It contradicts itself in other places. | 00:46:23 | |
| And is in direct violation of the state statute that gives that you the authority to act. | 00:46:29 | |
| The four areas is first. The state statute says that you can only adopt and enforce SGR ordinances to the extent that it is | 00:46:33 | |
| applicable in the same manner as other property classified under sections 4212003, which refer to single family homes. | 00:46:40 | |
| So in your ordinance, you limit them to guest count. You provide mandatory, require mandatory pest control, impose hours for | 00:46:47 | |
| curbside trash. | 00:46:50 | |
| Institute background checks, display a floor plan, create additional maintenance obligations and prohibit public street parking, | 00:46:55 | |
| which is all valid and lawful provided that you require the same thing with other single family residence homes. | 00:47:00 | |
| I don't believe you apply that uniformly. So for that reason I believe you'll find that your ordinance. | 00:47:06 | |
| Has some. | 00:47:12 | |
| Deficiencies as relates to state law, secondly. | 00:47:14 | |
| Your ordinance. | 00:47:17 | |
| Has a one hour reporting appointment. | 00:47:19 | |
| But unfortunately, the way the state statute is written, it says in a timely manner over the phone or by e-mail. | 00:47:22 | |
| Your ordinance takes a step further and replies it. | 00:47:27 | |
| I say one hour response time in person. | 00:47:30 | |
| I think the kind of language should be reflective of the state statute, at least to maintain conformity and compliance. | 00:47:33 | |
| #3 | 00:47:39 | |
| The kind definition of an emergency event. I feel as vague and ambiguous and the concern I have. As it's currently written, any | 00:47:41 | |
| complaints, even without cause, can require someone to show. | 00:47:46 | |
| And that's showing up then results in potential fine and three of those. | 00:47:51 | |
| Results in a revocation of your organs. | 00:47:55 | |
| Worries me is the abuse of that process. | 00:47:59 | |
| With an unverified complaint. I have a neighbor. | 00:48:02 | |
| In my first three months of ownership, threatened to shoot my wife because she's using a leaf blower. | 00:48:05 | |
| On a Saturday at 2:00 PM. | 00:48:10 | |
| That person is aware that all he needs to do is file fake complaints. | 00:48:11 | |
| That are unverified that result in police showing up or County Sheriff. | 00:48:14 | |
| And that's all it takes. It's a problem and I feel like. | 00:48:18 | |
| Without you having a proper noise on it in your adopting your county code, you won't even be able to administer it properly | 00:48:22 | |
| because you can't measure it. | 00:48:26 | |
| The fourth point and I'll wrap it up briefly with this. | 00:48:31 | |
| Is in your notice section of your new ordinance. | 00:48:34 | |
| It says notice can be simply left on the door. And as remote owners, notice left in the door might satisfy your ordinance, but we | 00:48:37 | |
| would never know about it and so if you can at least require that it gets mailed to the property. | 00:48:43 | |
| Of residents as well as the address on File account accessor. | 00:48:50 | |
| We can actually get the proper notice and help you out. | 00:48:53 | |
| You've been gracious to 3 minutes. I know I've run over, but we do have suggested language. We do have a draft ready. | 00:48:55 | |
| And I'd love to share it with you prior to your work session in April. When I meet in person, I'll present that with Yet we're not | 00:49:01 | |
| opposed to regulation. We just want to be fair and proper. | 00:49:05 | |
| OK. Thank you, Mr. Bob. Yeah, please present that information if it's not already in. | 00:49:10 | |
| Your e-mail. | 00:49:15 | |
| OK, please do. | 00:49:16 | |
| Next we have. | 00:49:18 | |
| Is it gettler? | 00:49:20 | |
| OK, Mr. Gettler is. | 00:49:22 | |
| From Pine. He also wants to speak. | 00:49:25 | |
| About the STR ordinance. | 00:49:27 | |
| Hello, Supervisors Humphrey and Klein and Chairman Christensen. I wanted to address the STR ordinance. | 00:49:34 | |
| My name is Tim Gutler. I'm a resident of Pine, a registered voter in Gila County, as well as an STR owner. | 00:49:44 | |
| While I agree that there is need to be an ordinance, this ordinance goes too far. | 00:49:54 | |
| I follow Facebook groups and Hein and went back and read the minutes from previous sessions back in October I believe. I know that | 00:49:58 | |
| there are people that do not like STRS. | 00:50:04 | |
| In fact, I purchased our home in 2020 that was built in 1977 and had not been updated since. We spent over $50,000 in updates and | 00:50:10 | |
| plan to spend an additional 50 to $70,000 to update the siding and windows. | 00:50:18 | |
| As an STR owner it is. | 00:50:28 | |
| In our best interest to maintain the property have pest services. | 00:50:30 | |
| And such our home backs up against Strawberry Mountain out of the six homes that are within the site. | 00:50:37 | |
| That are within sight of our home. Three of them are very accepting of our property, two of them can care less and one of them | 00:50:44 | |
| actually has a sign in their yard saying that no Airbnb is welcome. | 00:50:51 | |
| I saw and responded to the survey that was made available. I was very disappointed and clearly the author of the survey has an | 00:50:59 | |
| agenda and does not like SCRS. My question is. | 00:51:05 | |
| Is has there been an economic study? | 00:51:12 | |
| Of impact for STR's? | 00:51:15 | |
| For the economy of pine and strawberry, the current, the current form of the ordinance goes too far and is too vague in speech. | 00:51:18 | |
| It will create closures of the stairs, which may be what is planned, which may be is what the planning and zoning wants. But as I | 00:51:28 | |
| said, the amount of money that I have spent improving our home and maintaining our home goes back into the community of pine | 00:51:34 | |
| Strawberry and I insurance to pay some. | 00:51:40 | |
| Our house guests spend their money in the in the restaurants and antique shops and other businesses or restaurants alone need | 00:51:48 | |
| tourism to stay in business. | 00:51:53 | |
| If there are not STRS, there would not be enough places for the visitors to stay. | 00:51:59 | |
| This ordinance also gives. | 00:52:06 | |
| Anti SDR residents, all the power to create problems for owners by calling the Sheriff's Office, making complaints and I'm sure | 00:52:08 | |
| the sheriff has a lot better things to do that this would be a non-emergency item that Payson is 30 minutes away. If that's where | 00:52:16 | |
| they're located, it's where they may not even show up for up to an hour and by that time the problem may not even exist. | 00:52:23 | |
| And probably never did exist as. | 00:52:31 | |
| From my neighbor not wanting any S chairs they would go out of their way to. | 00:52:35 | |
| Create habit for me and. | 00:52:42 | |
| 'Cause expenses. | 00:52:44 | |
| So we hope that you. | 00:52:46 | |
| Take another look and and. | 00:52:49 | |
| And do it right through the ordinance. It's justice, right? | 00:52:52 | |
| Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Geller. Thank you for coming today. Next we have Cindy Hudson. | 00:52:56 | |
| Also wishes to speak on the same topic. | 00:53:01 | |
| Nonprofit organizations and charities in Pine strawberry as well. | 00:53:05 | |
| Exactly. I can briefly just just the topic of the charities in Pine, but before that I'm hoping that your supervisor will help me | 00:53:09 | |
| clarify something I just saw happen here. | 00:53:15 | |
| You just approved $2500 for the economic development with the. | 00:53:23 | |
| RIM country chairman or RIM country? | 00:53:31 | |
| I should just Chamber of Commerce, thank you from country Chamber of Commerce, which the board has determined to be for the | 00:53:35 | |
| benefit of the public. | 00:53:39 | |
| Yet with this short term ordinance that this county is promoting. | 00:53:43 | |
| You are quashing the short term rental industry, the economic impact study done in 2021. | 00:53:48 | |
| Determined that the economic output for Gila County alone from short term rentals is $84,355. | 00:53:56 | |
| Oh, and 84,300. | 00:54:04 | |
| I'm not good with them 84,000. | 00:54:07 | |
| OK, so. | 00:54:10 | |
| You want to flash this industry to lose 84,000 in income, but yet we're debating over $2500 to Simone to promote tourism in room | 00:54:11 | |
| country. | 00:54:16 | |
| Sorry, I know I that was another subject but. | 00:54:23 | |
| Hopefully you can clarify that. | 00:54:27 | |
| At least in your mind. | 00:54:29 | |
| What I wanted to talk today about actually I spoke last meeting about the impact this ordinance will have on businesses in Pine, | 00:54:31 | |
| will have on the Arizona trail hikers. We are a gateway community. It will affect them. | 00:54:36 | |
| I want to talk today about the effect this ordinance will have on the charities and the nonprofit organizations in Pine. | 00:54:43 | |
| We're a tiny town. | 00:54:50 | |
| We have over 12 nonprofits established that support our town and what supports those nonprofits is our festivals and our special | 00:54:52 | |
| events. | 00:54:56 | |
| All summer long we have the muggy and monster. We have the Pine Trail Run. | 00:55:01 | |
| We have fire in the room bike race. We have every weekend a holiday arts and crafts festival in time. | 00:55:05 | |
| Proceeds to those events go to our charities. In our nonprofits, they support wildfire prevention. | 00:55:12 | |
| Forest management. They support local trail maintenance. They support our Senior Center. | 00:55:18 | |
| They support her Meals on Wheels. They support our sick and needy programs. | 00:55:24 | |
| It's a part of children's programs. | 00:55:30 | |
| So they contribute to the town of Pine. | 00:55:32 | |
| This ordinance. | 00:55:34 | |
| Will will cost short term rentals. | 00:55:36 | |
| Short term rentals are required for participants and vendors. | 00:55:38 | |
| For these events to happen. | 00:55:42 | |
| And they've got to have a place to stay. We all know there's not a lot of housing options in the rural areas, especially pine and | 00:55:44 | |
| strawberry. | 00:55:47 | |
| So if you take away options for housing, you take away these events. | 00:55:51 | |
| To take away these events, you take away contributions to our nonprofits. | 00:55:55 | |
| All I'm trying to say is, let's look at the big picture. | 00:56:00 | |
| This, this ordinance does affect the entire town. It does affect businesses. It does affect charities. | 00:56:04 | |
| It does affect tourism, which is a major component of our wind country economy. | 00:56:10 | |
| So again, back to my original question. | 00:56:16 | |
| I had. I actually made it in 3 minutes this time. | 00:56:19 | |
| You know, we're we're having to approve spending. | 00:56:24 | |
| $2500 when you're losing an $85,000 a year industry. | 00:56:26 | |
| For a Tony. | 00:56:31 | |
| Thank you very much for the opportunity to speak. | 00:56:34 | |
| Thank you, Cindy. | 00:56:37 | |
| I'll call them the supervisors later if they feel they need to respond to any criticism, but next we have Cindy Condit wishes to | 00:56:39 | |
| speak on the same topic. Trash and pest control? Wildlife. Things like that. She has some photos she'd like to share. | 00:56:46 | |
| With us to so that. | 00:56:54 | |
| We know what she's Speaking of. | 00:56:58 | |
| Wow, Thank you. | 00:57:02 | |
| Thank you. | 00:57:06 | |
| OK, we'll start your 3 minutes now. | 00:57:11 | |
| My husband and I are full time residents up in Strawberry. | 00:57:13 | |
| We have two properties in strawberry that we Airbnb. | 00:57:18 | |
| I want to address the sections of the regulations concerning the trash cans and the regular pest control. | 00:57:24 | |
| To keep the premises free of insects, rodents and other nauseous pets. | 00:57:32 | |
| I want to talk about the fines to be levied on this. | 00:57:38 | |
| Owner of the short term rentals. | 00:57:42 | |
| If a guest feeds the out. | 00:57:45 | |
| The way the ordinance is written. | 00:57:49 | |
| It's going to fall on the homeowner. | 00:57:52 | |
| To be fined if the guests get caught feeding the Yelp. | 00:57:55 | |
| We love living in strawberry. | 00:58:00 | |
| We have beautiful mountain views. | 00:58:02 | |
| You'll see the photos I've. | 00:58:05 | |
| They are within 1 1/2 miles of my home. | 00:58:08 | |
| We can't fully enjoy these views because our property. | 00:58:12 | |
| Is directly adjacent. | 00:58:16 | |
| To the residents of the owner. | 00:58:19 | |
| Of the Pine Ice and Chevron gas station, AKA Uncle Tom's. | 00:58:21 | |
| You'll see in the photos I've given you that this residential property. | 00:58:27 | |
| Has been turned into a storage facility. | 00:58:31 | |
| Used by pine knife to store its unused equipment, such as semis, tiny ice trailers of enlarged trucks and piles of rusting junk. | 00:58:34 | |
| We can't sit on our patio to enjoy our view. | 00:58:45 | |
| The top photo is of a trash can. You got the outflow. | 00:58:52 | |
| As a small amount compared to what we see every day. | 00:58:56 | |
| Your new world demands that STR's must not place containers out before 6:00 PM and must be removed within 12 hours. | 00:59:01 | |
| Will you apply this rule to the people who live in Gila County full time? | 00:59:11 | |
| What about the part time residence? | 00:59:16 | |
| Well, they have to schedule their visits around trash pickups. | 00:59:18 | |
| Carry it back to the valley with them. | 00:59:22 | |
| Will they be fined for not sticking around? | 00:59:25 | |
| And it not being removed within 12 hours. | 00:59:29 | |
| I'm also taking photos. | 00:59:32 | |
| Of the stores within that same 1 1/2 miles. | 00:59:35 | |
| They are maintained. | 00:59:40 | |
| It's easy to see where the insects, rodents and other nauseous patch might come from. | 00:59:42 | |
| We do our part to make it clear that feeding the wildlife is prohibited. | 00:59:49 | |
| We post feeding the elk can result in serious injuries. | 00:59:54 | |
| Along with a hefty. | 00:59:58 | |
| We, however, can no more guarantee that our guests will obey our rules. | 01:00:00 | |
| In Hila County can guarantee the people. | 01:00:05 | |
| It's just as unfair to find the STR owners for the actions of their guests as it is to find the county supervisors for speeding | 01:00:11 | |
| drivers. | 01:00:16 | |
| Please if you're going to have this ordinance, all home businesses should have to face the same rules regulations. | 01:00:22 | |
| Fees and fines the local residents should be required. | 01:00:32 | |
| To the same standards when it comes to noise, trash and maintaining their properties. | 01:00:36 | |
| Thank you for your presentation. | 01:00:42 | |
| Next we have on the same topic we have Kevin. | 01:00:46 | |
| Is it? | 01:00:51 | |
| Course site. You are very brave. | 01:00:52 | |
| Very good. | 01:00:59 | |
| On the same topic. | 01:01:00 | |
| Thank you. Good morning, Chairman, Members of the Board, I appreciate your time. I I do appreciate your efforts to ensure that | 01:01:02 | |
| STR's. | 01:01:06 | |
| Are in alignment with residential drug uses. I think that's important so. | 01:01:09 | |
| I applaud your efforts a little bit of back story, personal note. | 01:01:14 | |
| My wife works in the public schools. I'm a diaper. We've long had a dream of having a place in the mountains. Three years ago we | 01:01:17 | |
| found a property in Pine fortunate enough to pick that property up and started down this course. We just recently got our building | 01:01:22 | |
| permits. Pretty exciting time for us. | 01:01:27 | |
| Unfortunately, we've we've also. | 01:01:32 | |
| Banked on SDR funds to allow us to achieve our goals and ultimately want to move to fine live up there full time and and my worry | 01:01:36 | |
| is the negative impact this ordinance will have in our dream. | 01:01:41 | |
| So I appreciate your time this morning. | 01:01:46 | |
| The ordinance mission states to protect public health, safety and welfare. | 01:01:48 | |
| Goes on to see all their items. I know other folks have have touched on many aspects of this ordinance. We find a challenge. Just | 01:01:52 | |
| wanna talk about section 3.3, the one hour requirement of of. | 01:01:58 | |
| Call for emergency for the owner to arrive at the property. On its face, this doesn't seem all that feasible even. | 01:02:05 | |
| Long term, if we're living on the property and we haven't done this appointment down in Payson, we get a call to get out of the | 01:02:11 | |
| chair, make it all the way back there within an hour can be a challenge. | 01:02:15 | |
| So that that's certainly one aspect of it. I also question the effectiveness of the owner or representative on site should an | 01:02:20 | |
| emergency be occurring. | 01:02:24 | |
| The presence of the public safety personnel which is called out the ordinance. | 01:02:30 | |
| Is hands down the best person to handle that situation? They're professional, they're trained, they're the most effective to | 01:02:34 | |
| manage that situation. | 01:02:37 | |
| Adding more people and certainly a potential owner or representative of. | 01:02:42 | |
| Can actually escalate the situation, create a challenge. So I just questioned the effectiveness of that on its face. Also the duty | 01:02:46 | |
| of enforcement is that the public safety personnel that's required to start the stopwatch and. | 01:02:53 | |
| And wait for an hour to see if anyone shows up which would initiate that $250 fine. | 01:03:01 | |
| Probably not the highest and besties of their time. | 01:03:06 | |
| Ordinance also goes down to say if nobody shows up at all, it's an additional $500 fine. | 01:03:09 | |
| How long should that person wait with their stopwatch to see if anyone shows up so? | 01:03:13 | |
| Again, I'm just not quite sure what the mechanism there I don't want to come up with with just challenges. I do think there's a | 01:03:18 | |
| solution here. | 01:03:21 | |
| As an owner, I have more of an interest in the property in any emergency that might occur there than probably most. | 01:03:25 | |
| If somebody gets injured, a God forbid worse. | 01:03:31 | |
| I absolutely want to know about it. I think that that the section 3.3 could be rewritten effectively to say. | 01:03:34 | |
| If there is a call for service. | 01:03:40 | |
| Absolutely identify the owner. | 01:03:42 | |
| Eliminate the one hour requirement. Eliminate the fines. | 01:03:45 | |
| Trust me, every STR owner is going to want to get up there and remedy that solution. Excuse me, remedy that problem. | 01:03:47 | |
| As quickly as possible, we have a very vested interest. | 01:03:53 | |
| So thank you for your time. I appreciate that and. | 01:03:56 | |
| Look forward to our work session later on. Thank you for that and I'd like to thank everybody that's driven here today. | 01:03:59 | |
| To do that and I'm trying to keep track of everyone's concerns and we're doing that and lastly here. | 01:04:08 | |
| With my blue paper is Vince Hudson of Pine. | 01:04:15 | |
| To also speak on short term rentals. | 01:04:18 | |
| Morning, Mr. Christensen and Supervisor, hopefully. | 01:04:25 | |
| Fine. As we read through these issues that you guys were throwing at us, one of them. | 01:04:28 | |
| Faces me. I'm in the real estate world and I know it very well. I've been doing it since the 70s. | 01:04:36 | |
| If we think that we're going to stop these short term rentals. | 01:04:42 | |
| And it's going to keep the economy of that area. | 01:04:46 | |
| Going were wrong because these folks are buying these short term rentals. | 01:04:49 | |
| And using them for that so they have a place to go the weekends they want to go up. | 01:04:54 | |
| Not everybody. | 01:05:00 | |
| Got the luxury to afford a property in the mountains? | 01:05:01 | |
| To live part time. | 01:05:05 | |
| And they use this system. | 01:05:08 | |
| Of the short term rentals. | 01:05:11 | |
| To help justify their cost. At the end of the day, I don't know if any of you three guys own short term rounds. | 01:05:13 | |
| And it doesn't matter. | 01:05:19 | |
| But the bottom line? | 01:05:21 | |
| We can't punish people that are making investments to try to better themselves, their family give themselves a place to go. | 01:05:24 | |
| To get out of the heat in the summer or vice versa. | 01:05:34 | |
| And and for this is what really bothered me the most. | 01:05:39 | |
| That all three of you men setting up there. | 01:05:43 | |
| Voted this in. | 01:05:45 | |
| When I came to meetings. | 01:05:47 | |
| Here to talk about it, but yet we cut them short. We cut it short. We don't have time to talk about it. And then you do this | 01:05:49 | |
| behind our backs and some of our friends backs that we live next door to. | 01:05:55 | |
| This is totally unacceptable of U3. | 01:06:03 | |
| And you guys work for us. We don't work for you. | 01:06:07 | |
| So please, please when we have this meet this. | 01:06:11 | |
| Organ organized. | 01:06:17 | |
| Meeting to try to solve these problems. Please listen to the folks that are out there. I'm not saying all these Airbnbs are right, | 01:06:19 | |
| because they're not. | 01:06:23 | |
| And it's like any other business. | 01:06:28 | |
| You got people that take care of their business and you don't. | 01:06:30 | |
| Do I believe that people that aren't need to be? | 01:06:34 | |
| I don't know if the words penalize or have their. | 01:06:38 | |
| License to practice these Airbnbs taken away or put onto some type of a. | 01:06:41 | |
| For no better word, let's say beyond. | 01:06:49 | |
| On a system to where, if they happen continuously, your license. | 01:06:55 | |
| Are going to get pulled. | 01:06:59 | |
| But to throw this in our face And if your grandmother? | 01:07:01 | |
| Came to see you for the weekend and you didn't have a place for her to stay and you wanted her to stay down the street at an | 01:07:05 | |
| Airbnb and they said. | 01:07:09 | |
| Nope, sorry. We got to do a background check on him. | 01:07:13 | |
| How would you feel, Mr. Humphrey? | 01:07:18 | |
| Mr. Klein, how would you feel? | 01:07:21 | |
| I wish I could answer that. Vince, you can. No, I can't. Why can't you? Not yet. | 01:07:23 | |
| We're here for you to talk. | 01:07:30 | |
| Let's let's all be upfront and honest with each other. I know you guys think I'm a bad guy because I push everything. | 01:07:33 | |
| But you know what? | 01:07:41 | |
| Everything I got seen and I work for. | 01:07:43 | |
| And we struggle to get where we're at. | 01:07:45 | |
| We're not going to take this layer down. | 01:07:47 | |
| Thank you. | 01:07:50 | |
| Pleasant hunter. Anything at this juncture? | 01:07:52 | |
| Excuse me, I'll I'll wait for the work session. | 01:07:58 | |
| I do have lots of comments. I do feel as if I have the right to defend myself and probably should today, but I'm gonna hold my | 01:08:02 | |
| comments. | 01:08:06 | |
| Until the work session. | 01:08:11 | |
| Supervisor Klein. | 01:08:13 | |
| Thank you. Now's my turn, Vince. | 01:08:15 | |
| So let me just start straight up off the bat. | 01:08:18 | |
| You're looking at three guys who have nothing against short terminals. | 01:08:23 | |
| We are all in favor of short term rentals. | 01:08:27 | |
| Our problem has been from the very giggle the people that don't operate on. As Vincent had pointed out, they don't operate operate | 01:08:30 | |
| them correctly. | 01:08:35 | |
| You're a nuisance to the neighborhood. They cause big problems in neighborhoods and that's the that's the complaints that that | 01:08:41 | |
| came to us and started this off. | 01:08:46 | |
| The other thing I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you guys, like I told all the people in Pleasant Valley where I live, 'cause they said | 01:08:54 | |
| the same thing. Well, you're throwing this out there. We had no idea what was going on. We've been talking about this for months. | 01:09:00 | |
| This has been on agendas for a long time and people don't pay attention to agendas. | 01:09:08 | |
| And when they came up it was voted in and if you'll go back and listen to the meetings, you will see for sure what I have to say | 01:09:14 | |
| about it. | 01:09:18 | |
| I think the fact that we have pushed for a work session to bring this up and revisit it. | 01:09:22 | |
| Is in itself enough to point out to you folks, we're not trying to cram anything down your throat and make you go out of business. | 01:09:29 | |
| As you would say, we're trying to make an ordinance that will fit everyone. | 01:09:34 | |
| But yet we keep getting that thrown in our face that we're trying to put everybody out of business. You guys are wrong when you | 01:09:41 | |
| say that. | 01:09:43 | |
| Straight up wrong. And if it if it was, if we were for doing that, we would have passed that ordinance and never gave anybody a | 01:09:47 | |
| second chance to come back and readdress it. | 01:09:52 | |
| But we did, because we feel like there's ways we can make this fit. | 01:09:57 | |
| To where we're not hammering the good people. | 01:10:02 | |
| But we're making the other ones total line and run a correct business. | 01:10:05 | |
| So we've heard this time and time and time again to the point I wish there was a way we didn't have to discuss short term rentals | 01:10:10 | |
| again until that work session. | 01:10:15 | |
| It's the same old thing. | 01:10:21 | |
| I have my points of view on it as far as businesses and towns and what the impacts are. | 01:10:23 | |
| And I will tell you another impact when Cindy talks about housing in areas, the reason there's not enough housing is because | 01:10:28 | |
| they've all been turned into short term rentals. | 01:10:33 | |
| That is a fact in Gila County. There isn't enough long term rentals in Gila County, especially in the Payson area, to provide | 01:10:39 | |
| housing for the law enforcement people, the nurses and so forth. | 01:10:45 | |
| There's not. The Forest Service, for example, had to go into Indian Gardens and set up camps for their seasonal workers to live at | 01:10:53 | |
| all summer long because they couldn't find. | 01:10:58 | |
| Places to rent through the summer. | 01:11:03 | |
| So when anybody talks about housing. | 01:11:06 | |
| And I'm not criticizing eBay for doing short term rentals because that's the number one investment today. | 01:11:10 | |
| For making money. | 01:11:16 | |
| And so forth. | 01:11:17 | |
| But I will tell you, don't throw that out there in front of Maine and tell me that there. You know that that's the problem or not | 01:11:19 | |
| the problem, whatever it was. But. | 01:11:22 | |
| Because everything today is short term rentals, not long term. | 01:11:27 | |
| And so there's a whole lot about this that I for one, I'm not speaking on these two. | 01:11:31 | |
| But I've had a chance to talk to a lot of people. I've read tons and tons of emails. That's been to us. | 01:11:36 | |
| And I get it. | 01:11:43 | |
| I understand your concerns. I honestly think there's a way we can make this better and make it fit everyone. | 01:11:45 | |
| But that's why we went for this work session April 30th. | 01:11:51 | |
| And that's what's going to happen. We're going to go through it. We're going to talk about it. | 01:11:56 | |
| I know you're a lawyer. We have our lawyers sitting here. We address everything. | 01:12:00 | |
| Or it's going to be out there? | 01:12:05 | |
| But straight up, when you say that we're blinding, sighting you or something. | 01:12:08 | |
| Irritate me because the fact is you didn't pay attention to agendas for a long time. See this coming. | 01:12:13 | |
| And I'll visit with you later, Vince. I'd love to sit down with a cup of coffee and visit with. | 01:12:19 | |
| And so I've gotten that that same complaint a bunch if I just wanted that out there. But number one, first and foremost, I for | 01:12:24 | |
| 1:00 AM not against short term rentals. | 01:12:29 | |
| I just want them to fit and work. | 01:12:35 | |
| Thank you, Mr. Chair. | 01:12:38 | |
| Thank you, Supervisor Klein, and I will say that I mirror everything you said. | 01:12:40 | |
| So, umm. | 01:12:47 | |
| We have from the very beginning said that we probably will have to make adjustments to this ordinance. | 01:12:50 | |
| And we have that work session. | 01:12:57 | |
| April 30th. Now if you want to keep coming to our meetings. | 01:12:59 | |
| And presenting these arguments, thinking that you're going to gain headway. | 01:13:04 | |
| I'll assure you that all you're going to do is probably irritate us, so. | 01:13:10 | |
| You're welcome to do it. | 01:13:14 | |
| It's your right. | 01:13:16 | |
| But April 30th is the day. | 01:13:20 | |
| Supervisor Humphrey. | 01:13:22 | |
| Yeah, I just want to say one thing. I wasn't going to make any comments. | 01:13:24 | |
| But I understand that the short term rentals, I understand that you know, people want to see these beautiful places. | 01:13:28 | |
| But at the same time, Sedona is having to pass an ordinance. | 01:13:36 | |
| Where you have to prove that you have a job, but you can stay in your car in a park. | 01:13:40 | |
| Because Sedona has been filled with short term rentals. | 01:13:46 | |
| Which have raised the property values so high. | 01:13:50 | |
| That the people that are cleaning these Airbnbs and their yards and working at the restaurants have no place to live. They have to | 01:13:54 | |
| live in their cars and and Sedona has had to pass an ordinance so that they can so they are homeless. | 01:14:02 | |
| Because of the beautiful views in Sedona so. | 01:14:11 | |
| I'm not against Airbnb's, but I don't want to have to pass an ordinance for the people that work or the Airbnb. | 01:14:15 | |
| In Pine and Strawberry. | 01:14:25 | |
| To be able to live in their cars because nobody wants to be out of business. | 01:14:27 | |
| For the people that want to see those beautiful views. | 01:14:34 | |
| Because at the same time, if somebody wanted to build a motel in Pine and Strawberry, you people would be against that. | 01:14:37 | |
| But so OK. | 01:14:47 | |
| There's maybe a lot of untruths going on, but at the same time we have to find a happy medium. And is everybody going to be happy? | 01:14:50 | |
| No, I don't think so. But we have to find a happy medium because that's one ordinance that I'm not going to work on to have | 01:14:56 | |
| workers with a job live in cars because there's no place. | 01:15:02 | |
| Mr. Chair, I'm finished. OK, thank you. So is there anyone else here locally in Globe that wishes to speak call to the public? | 01:15:11 | |
| No. | 01:15:19 | |
| Lisa, do we have people in Payson? | 01:15:22 | |
| At the TCM that wish to speak. | 01:15:26 | |
| Call to the public. | 01:15:29 | |
| Yes, Sir, I have two. | 01:15:31 | |
| OK. | 01:15:34 | |
| And I have been attending your meeting. | 01:15:42 | |
| Could you please once again state your name please? | 01:15:47 | |
| OK. | 01:15:52 | |
| And as church and rental owners, we are all in favor of your health, welfare, and safety of our neighborhoods. Our guests deserve | 01:15:55 | |
| this also. | 01:16:00 | |
| In our neighborhood of 174, approximately 22 of those are short term rentals, that's 12%. | 01:16:05 | |
| You already have lives for your trash and your feeding of animals. | 01:16:14 | |
| They're just not getting enforced. | 01:16:17 | |
| Enforce it universally. | 01:16:19 | |
| Septic concerns only for short term rentals. | 01:16:22 | |
| Been an owner or a long term rental can have as many people as they want in the home their septic can overrun. | 01:16:25 | |
| And there's people are there 24/7, not occasionally. | 01:16:33 | |
| Those homes are full. | 01:16:37 | |
| A better choice. How about if we have a septic issue? Come up, shut us down until it's repaired. If an owner has a septic issue, | 01:16:40 | |
| come up, tell him he has to move it out until he corrects it. | 01:16:46 | |
| Of a long term rental has a septic issue. | 01:16:52 | |
| Shut them down. | 01:16:55 | |
| I have. I love the no on street. | 01:16:58 | |
| Our streets are narrow. No one should be parking in our streets. | 01:17:02 | |
| But you're only going to make short term rent. | 01:17:06 | |
| And there's no no parking sign. | 01:17:08 | |
| How are you going to regulate that? | 01:17:10 | |
| Test control. | 01:17:13 | |
| Is it? Does it have to be professional? How often do we have to do it? You don't state? | 01:17:15 | |
| But is it a health issue only at my home and not at my neighbors? | 01:17:22 | |
| Or is he going to have to do pest control also? | 01:17:27 | |
| Trust me if a short term rental has a bug. | 01:17:31 | |
| That renter is going to notify Airbnb. | 01:17:34 | |
| And VRBO and we're going to have to have it taken care of and within 24 hours. | 01:17:37 | |
| Sex offenders? | 01:17:44 | |
| Has this ever been reported at a short term rental in Hilo County? | 01:17:46 | |
| There are landlord lives that say you cannot. | 01:17:52 | |
| Discriminate against the sex offender from a registry. | 01:17:56 | |
| We cannot deny housing to them. | 01:18:01 | |
| Of interest in our neighborhood. | 01:18:05 | |
| We have an owner to the registered sex offender. | 01:18:07 | |
| We had a recent long term rendered. They've been there like 10 years. | 01:18:11 | |
| He was a registered sex offender. | 01:18:15 | |
| He just got arrested for watching child *****. | 01:18:17 | |
| And the whole one of the homes that my husband and I bought and refurbished. | 01:18:22 | |
| It was being used as a sex offender home. | 01:18:26 | |
| Not anymore. It's a short term rental. | 01:18:30 | |
| These are only the ones that I'm aware of. | 01:18:35 | |
| If you check the government, you just check the US government .3% of the population in the United States. | 01:18:38 | |
| Are registered sex offenders. | 01:18:48 | |
| How does your law protect my renter? | 01:18:51 | |
| From a sex offender. | 01:18:55 | |
| And are you opening up us up to a lawsuit because we're a land, we're a homeowner? | 01:18:57 | |
| We're a renter and it's against the law for a landlord. | 01:19:04 | |
| Do not allow. | 01:19:09 | |
| You only care about the 12% in your safety. | 01:19:15 | |
| The other 88% in my neighborhood you don't care about. | 01:19:19 | |
| They can have you all your unsafe things. | 01:19:23 | |
| But my 12, the 12% is church and Reno can't. | 01:19:27 | |
| Vera, your times up. Thank you for your comments. | 01:19:31 | |
| Lisa. | 01:19:37 | |
| Yes, I have Leia Lee. I'm sorry, Lee. | 01:19:42 | |
| Your name? | 01:19:48 | |
| Good morning, Mr. Chairman and Board. Appreciate you letting us have a moment. Our names are Jean Pendergrass. We are owners of | 01:19:52 | |
| the Rusty Pine Cone in Elkies in Pine. | 01:19:59 | |
| And we just want to say that we are concerned for our business, the Airbnb and the visitors are a big percentage of our. | 01:20:06 | |
| Clientele. So I'd say 3 to 5%. | 01:20:17 | |
| Of our business is local. | 01:20:21 | |
| So if we get real stringent on the short term rental. | 01:20:24 | |
| And I think this is gonna. | 01:20:28 | |
| Scare a lot of them away. | 01:20:32 | |
| And we may have some issues with the businesses. So I wanted that to be looked at and fair rules I think that. | 01:20:34 | |
| If you put into place all these background checks and so forth that the places that are already there, the motels, hotels, long | 01:20:44 | |
| even long term rental if they should be required, even more so for long term rentals. | 01:20:51 | |
| If they have a sex offender move in, they should be checking that as well. So just want to make sure you look at the fairness to | 01:20:58 | |
| everyone and not to squash. Our community has really been thriving and we want to keep it that way. | 01:21:06 | |
| So I appreciate your time. | 01:21:15 | |
| Workshop. Is that how long is that workshop going to take place? | 01:21:18 | |
| On April 30th, is that going to be a long time? So like 4 hour event? | 01:21:23 | |
| I would hope not, Jean. | 01:21:29 | |
| Well, I could bring some lemonade for everybody, really. OK. | 01:21:32 | |
| So my intention gene is to. | 01:21:37 | |
| Not have repetitive comments. | 01:21:42 | |
| So today the call to the public is there's a lot of comments that are repetitive. So during the work session I would like to. | 01:21:45 | |
| Limit the comments to new comments for each person, not just the same ones over and over. | 01:21:54 | |
| We have, we actually have two things happening on April 30th. It may be a very long day. | 01:22:02 | |
| Are you going to be making decisions on that day or just taking everyone? It's it's a work session, so there will not be any. | 01:22:09 | |
| There will not be any action items. | 01:22:18 | |
| OK. Thanks for your time guys. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else, Lisa? | 01:22:23 | |
| No Sir, OK. | 01:22:27 | |
| Cassandra, I'll call you again. Anyone any comments? No. OK, All right, then I will call, then I will. | 01:22:30 | |
| Go to the next item, item number six. | 01:22:38 | |
| Well, actually before I do that, I'll call on the supervisors again if they have any other additional comments. Supervisor | 01:22:43 | |
| Humphrey. | 01:22:46 | |
| I'm good. Thank you. | 01:22:50 | |
| OK. Item number six is the time where we can share the Board of Supervisor County Manager brief summary of current events. So | 01:22:52 | |
| let's go with James Menlov right now. | 01:22:57 | |
| Mr. Chairman, members of the board, one thing I wanted to bring attention to with our finance department, kind of mentioned a | 01:23:03 | |
| little bit earlier, but with. | 01:23:07 | |
| Instructor Belling that she was having that last week. | 01:23:12 | |
| For this week, contributing with the auditors to closeout. | 01:23:17 | |
| Last week, Marin met with the auditor from the Arizona auditor general's office. | 01:23:21 | |
| To closeout our fiscal year 23 audit. So here it is before the end of March completely and absolutely everything on time. | 01:23:26 | |
| I want to recognize Marin and the finance team for that significant accomplishment. | 01:23:35 | |
| That she has with the policies that are implemented and all that. | 01:23:40 | |
| Has made such great strides over the years. | 01:23:45 | |
| And I am appreciative to Miss Belling and all of her team for that tremendous. | 01:23:49 | |
| Accomplishment. | 01:23:54 | |
| Just wanted to point out that today is a voting day. | 01:23:57 | |
| Eric Mariska is visually. | 01:24:00 | |
| Administering the election for Heela County and the Presidential preference election that is being held today. | 01:24:02 | |
| I do want to point out that we do have our small. | 01:24:10 | |
| Meeting tomorrow evening. | 01:24:14 | |
| And I look forward to that. | 01:24:16 | |
| I also wanted to point out that on Friday, I believe we're taking a trip to Young. | 01:24:19 | |
| We have been awarded $3,000,000 in state money for a Community Center facility to provide services to veterans and at the Pleasant | 01:24:24 | |
| Valley Veterans Retreat. | 01:24:29 | |
| And also, just in the last week or so, the federal government did approve certain bills. | 01:24:36 | |
| That are part of the budget. | 01:24:42 | |
| For this current fiscal year. | 01:24:44 | |
| And within that budget is a appropriation or grant of 333,000 that will be used to provide a. | 01:24:46 | |
| 88 Compliant House to service. | 01:24:54 | |
| At the Pleasant Valley Veterans receipt. So really good news at PVDR. | 01:24:57 | |
| And the money that has been available to the county for grants and look forward to. | 01:25:03 | |
| Walking the site and determining general locations of where those buildings and facilities will be constructed. | 01:25:09 | |
| Thank you, Mr. Chairman. | 01:25:16 | |
| Thank you James Supervisor Humphrey. | 01:25:18 | |
| I I. | 01:25:22 | |
| A tunnel basin meeting on the 6th. | 01:25:22 | |
| Held the Roosevelt Community meeting on the 11th. | 01:25:26 | |
| I was on KQS radio on the 11th as well at 5:30. | 01:25:30 | |
| And then last night I attended the Tri-City sanitation. | 01:25:36 | |
| District. | 01:25:40 | |
| And that's about it. | 01:25:42 | |
| Thank you, Supervisor Klein. | 01:25:45 | |
| OK, so here the well just a while back on the 13th we attended the Discover Heela County. | 01:25:50 | |
| Workshop and everything with them. | 01:25:58 | |
| With the folks involved, there is, they're impatient at the library. Really, really good meeting. | 01:26:01 | |
| All the folks that's been a part of that and whatnot. The town was there, we were there, State parks was there. | 01:26:06 | |
| And so forth. But it was really good. Listen to a lot of different ideas. They're revamping the site. | 01:26:13 | |
| Look a little bit different, but they've got some really good ideas going there. | 01:26:20 | |
| After that, we attended the Whispering Pines community meeting on the 14th regarding a proposed cell tower. | 01:26:27 | |
| Whispering Pines is totally against this cell tower. | 01:26:35 | |
| And they don't want it. | 01:26:39 | |
| They're they're adamantly fighting against it. | 01:26:40 | |
| I don't know where that will end up going or what will end up happening there. Umm. | 01:26:45 | |
| But it's been something sitting there, watching and listening to the folks. | 01:26:50 | |
| Whether I agree with it or I don't agree with it, I agree with what the people want. | 01:26:55 | |
| In that case, and. | 01:26:59 | |
| And unfortunately, there may be some different situations on how we can vote for cell towers. | 01:27:02 | |
| As politically. | 01:27:09 | |
| Correct as I can put it. | 01:27:10 | |
| And so we're still working on or I'm still working on that and so anyway. | 01:27:12 | |
| Not only that tower, but it looks like there's four or five more going to be proposed a little shortly. | 01:27:18 | |
| And some people wanted in their community, some don't. | 01:27:22 | |
| And we'll just have to see. | 01:27:27 | |
| The other day I met. Just yesterday, I met with San Carlos on. | 01:27:29 | |
| To discuss some maintenance issues on the reservation for roads. | 01:27:32 | |
| And so we're going over to some proposals with them to work and see if we can come to an agreement to. | 01:27:37 | |
| To get some. | 01:27:44 | |
| Some Rd. maintenance going again out there on that and that was with the Department of Transportation, a council member. | 01:27:45 | |
| And the attorney out there, so. | 01:27:52 | |
| This Saturday I've got a town hall meeting in Young. | 01:27:57 | |
| That I'll be at. Kathy will be there with me, I think. Oh Merrill's coming up to it. | 01:28:00 | |
| And whatnot. It ought to be interesting. | 01:28:06 | |
| We'll see what. | 01:28:09 | |
| I'm sure short term rentals would be a topic of discussion. | 01:28:10 | |
| For a short while anyway. So which is good? | 01:28:14 | |
| Wednesday we're headed to the ECO meeting in small counties. I'm on the Eastern County Organization Board. | 01:28:18 | |
| Here, just your day. There's a supervisor in Greeley County, Richard Lund and he's retiring. He's stepping down and he is | 01:28:25 | |
| currently on a on a national board, Western Interregion Board, which is the western counties. | 01:28:32 | |
| And so I was contacted. He contacted me and asked me if I would run for that position. | 01:28:40 | |
| To fill that position behind you. | 01:28:44 | |
| And so I'm going to be looking at that real hard and probably, well, not probably I will try to. | 01:28:47 | |
| Picked up position when he vacates. | 01:28:53 | |
| And that'll all start Wednesday. But I want to back up and say was as I had, a real honor. | 01:28:56 | |
| To be invited to the State of the Union address. | 01:29:01 | |
| And some people I've heard all different. | 01:29:06 | |
| Points on that, you know, why did you want to go listen to President Biden And on and on and on. | 01:29:10 | |
| It wasn't so much as listening to anybody as much as it was to be there and be a part of that process. | 01:29:15 | |
| Eli Crane, Congressman Crane is the one that invited me to come out there and and be a part of that. You only get there by | 01:29:22 | |
| invitations. | 01:29:27 | |
| That's it. You don't. You can't just walk in the door and sit there and listen to it. | 01:29:31 | |
| It was a really good experience for me and I would say that if anybody ever at any time gets the opportunity or the invite, please | 01:29:36 | |
| take it because regardless who the president is, it's well worth being there and being a part of it. | 01:29:43 | |
| And and seeing the process as they go through and everything else. Umm. | 01:29:50 | |
| I'll tell you, one of the key parts of that for me was when I'm sitting there in the gallery. | 01:29:56 | |
| Galleries just about full and in walks Gabby Giffords. | 01:30:01 | |
| And her aid. | 01:30:05 | |
| I don't know. Some of you may not remember Gabby, but she was a congressman at Tucson that got shot. | 01:30:07 | |
| And she came walking in and I was able to introduce myself and visit with her. While she was saying that, she sat right next to | 01:30:13 | |
| me. | 01:30:16 | |
| Right there. So that was really cool. If nothing else, that was that was that was good. | 01:30:20 | |
| The other other gentleman that I was able to meet before going into the gallery and getting set up to. | 01:30:26 | |
| To listen to the president was. | 01:30:33 | |
| A guy from Billings, Mont, Montana. | 01:30:35 | |
| And knowing that everybody that walks through those doors is there because of an invite, I asked him. | 01:30:38 | |
| I said what? What got you invited to this, this deal? | 01:30:44 | |
| He said, Well, you remember the spy balloons? | 01:30:48 | |
| I said, yeah, I do. | 01:30:52 | |
| He said I was the first one to take pictures and and write articles on the spy balloons. | 01:30:54 | |
| Am I really Well, OK, that's cool. But I said you came all. They invited you to come all the way down here to to. | 01:30:59 | |
| For that, and that's a long ways from Billings, Mt to DC. | 01:31:07 | |
| He said. Well, no, not really. I've been in meetings all day with CIA and FBI and I was like, dude, are you gonna make it home? | 01:31:11 | |
| So there's some really cool points to all of that, but I would say that overall, I was really honored to be asked to attend and it | 01:31:18 | |
| was really, really cool to be there. | 01:31:23 | |
| And while we were there, we also spoke to. | 01:31:28 | |
| Congressman Crane and Senator Kelly on the veteran retreat, the conveyance of that and how that bill is going. | 01:31:32 | |
| The bills have been through the processes, they're just waiting to be attached to whatever they're gonna attach them to, probably | 01:31:39 | |
| other land bills and they'll be sent through and hopefully. | 01:31:44 | |
| Signed by the president. So we're really hoping that that that gets accomplished before October. | 01:31:50 | |
| Unfortunately, if it doesn't, we'll be starting all over again with the bills and and this is the second go around on those bills, | 01:31:56 | |
| but that will convey that property to the county. | 01:32:00 | |
| Which right now we're working under special use permit, so. | 01:32:06 | |
| Also, I missed on one thing too last night. | 01:32:12 | |
| I want to back up again. I was in the. | 01:32:16 | |
| Hayden down there, town council meeting. It's been a while since I've been able to get down there and talk to those folks and. | 01:32:19 | |
| But I was, I was able to go down there and give them updates and and talk to them about different things that's going on in the | 01:32:26 | |
| county. Really good bunch of people down there. It's always a pleasure to go down there and meet with them and visit with them so. | 01:32:31 | |
| Mr. Chair, I think that is all I have. Thank you so much. Busy. You've been busy, yeah. | 01:32:37 | |
| As we all have. And so I was also at that Discover Gila County meeting. | 01:32:45 | |
| Tremendous. | 01:32:50 | |
| Really a tremendous thing that we support there. If you say Richard Blunt might be, is he going to continue being a supervisor? | 01:32:52 | |
| No, he's not going to run this year. He's a great guy. He is. | 01:32:58 | |
| Bad to hear, but anyway, I hope I wish you well and it's the WIR. Yeah, OK. | 01:33:05 | |
| And I also. | 01:33:11 | |
| Recently was on KRIM Radio and KMLG Radio. | 01:33:14 | |
| Attended the Veterans Coffee time, which is in Payson. | 01:33:20 | |
| The veterans get together every Tuesday, so if I'm not here on a Tuesday, I try to be there. | 01:33:24 | |
| Over 100 people. | 01:33:31 | |
| 100 veterans there, it's a really a great success. | 01:33:33 | |
| Great group of people. | 01:33:37 | |
| Also the. | 01:33:40 | |
| Veteran group the. | 01:33:42 | |
| VFW or whoever they are the 147 they had a. | 01:33:46 | |
| Saint Patrick's Day dinner on Saturday night and at that very well attended full house. | 01:33:50 | |
| Fundraiser Really. | 01:33:57 | |
| Now, tomorrow, since we have our small caucus dinner tomorrow, what time is that, by the way? | 01:33:59 | |
| 5:30 I'm going to be attending that, but I have set up a couple meetings prior to that, one with David Cook, one with David | 01:34:05 | |
| Marshall. | 01:34:09 | |
| Just to talk. And so I do want to let everyone know that we have. | 01:34:14 | |
| We have spreadsheets and graphs and everything and everyone that spoke today. | 01:34:23 | |
| I wrote down information so. | 01:34:31 | |
| You're being listened to. | 01:34:34 | |
| And I want you to know that. | 01:34:36 | |
| Know that we're not ignoring anyone. So is there anything else? Yeah, I got one more thing and this Tim's got something. Please. | 01:34:39 | |
| A good temple. | 01:34:47 | |
| So one more thing, I'll let everybody know straight up is I am going to run through this election. I'm gonna go for more years. | 01:34:48 | |
| That's all I'm gonna go. I'll be done for years. | 01:34:54 | |
| Kathy is gonna retire this year. | 01:34:57 | |
| And so I want to throw it out there that I have asked James to put Kathy in and Cherry. | 01:35:00 | |
| In charge of finding my next Executive Assistant. | 01:35:06 | |
| So if there's anyone out there that thinks that they have an interest in it or want to be crazy enough to jump in on that train | 01:35:10 | |
| ride, like let us know. But Kathy and Sherry will be the ones to to make that decision. | 01:35:15 | |
| And both of them know for sure what it takes to be a part of. | 01:35:22 | |
| Of that and being able to stand me so. | 01:35:27 | |
| Anyway, just throwing it out there for information. | 01:35:30 | |
| Thanks. OK, that's good information. You're not allowed to approach, Melissa. | 01:35:34 | |
| Is there anything else Supervisor Humphrey? | 01:35:39 | |
| OK. With that, I will adjourn the meeting. Thank you. | 01:35:45 | |
| So, Kathy. | 01:35:53 |