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And I'm going to call this meeting to order Tuesday, September 17th at a little after 10. And our pledge today will be by Samantha
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and our invocation will be by Nick Montague. Thank you for speaking on that.
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Which is of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty
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and justice for all.
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Dear Heavenly Father, we are thankful for this day and we are thankful for the Board of Supervisors and for the time that they
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spend helping the county. And we ask thee to give your spirit to them to help them make wise decisions for us and say these things
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and they just crash them.
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Okay.
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Good morning, everybody.
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Our first 2A presentation regarding the activities of the Hiba County Supervisor Association for physical year 2324 and Drake
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Sullivan is here. And we thank you very much for coming and doing the presentation and for all you do for all of us. Look forward
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to supervisors. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. Mr. Klein, it's a pleasure to be here with you today.
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We do have a slide deck that we'd like to walk through. Thank you very much.
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Perfect timing on that. But for the record, I'm Craig Sullivan with the County Supervisors Association. I have Caitlin King with
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me too. She's our new legislative liaison joining the team. We're thrilled to have her working with us. My purpose today is to
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report out on the activities, the association. It's very important for me to be accountable to you, to see what we're doing to
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support you and your colleague counties across the state. And so we did provide a document that walks through a lot of the key
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activities that we're in.
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Areas like intergovernmental work, our data initiative, some strategic initiatives, and then the work we've been doing with the
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legislature. And so with your permission, Mr. Chair, I'd like to walk through some of it and just hit some of the key highlights
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that we've got going and field any questions that you all may have. Please do.
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And as I begin, I do want to thank you for your partnership in the association. I am so grateful for the involvement of this board
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with your colleagues from around the state. Thank you for that. I think it makes our organization stronger and it helps strengthen
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the partnership with the legislature. And I want to commend Mr. Menlo. He is the chair of our County Managers Association. So that
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makes sure that we have a very strong collaboration to this. So thank you for that, James.
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So just moving through, let me just briefly talk a little bit about what the association is for folks in the room who wouldn't be
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familiar with the county supervisors associations collaboration with 15 counties. We do nonpartisan research and policy work. The
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counties created this function because it's more efficient to work together to do these things as opposed to independently and
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we're all in the same business we're trying to support.
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You and state leaders in serving your constituents. So that's really what we're all about.
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And if you look on the right, you can see the various entities that have influence on what you do. And so we try to strengthen the
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intergovernmental relationship with those other parties.
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This slide shows you a little bit about how we're using our board meetings that occur regularly to bring in elected officials and
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policy decision makers to talk with all of you. So I wanted to identify just the folks who we came in through the last year.
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We really enjoyed the the robust conversation with legislators, including some of the new agency heads under the new
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administration. On the left, you can see some of the key task forces that we've been assigned to to work.
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On behalf of the counties to support, so things like the Governor's Water Council, PSPRS Advisory Committee, Arizona Criminal
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Justice Committee, we do a lot of task force work on behalf of all 15 counties and then provide information to all of you. But
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very importantly, at the bottom in the orange is the relationship we have is kind of a hub and spoke model with what we call
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county affiliate groups. So the finance director is the planning directors and those folks who all work very hard.
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We help come together to get information from them and we share information from our end and it really strengthens the overall
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collaboration. We also connect with the Arizona Association of Counties, who represents the row officers, and we try to make sure
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that we're all strengthened there. So it really creates a nice strong fabric of Arizona County.
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This next slide just highlights the county data initiative that we have all been involved in for several years. This is where
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we're developing a platform with county relevant data to help us analyze policies and create visualizations to bring both the
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boards as well as to the legislature. This is a very robust function that's managed by Vanessa Fielder in our office. It continues
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to grow. Right now we're building out additional budget information and core related information. So we just have more.
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At our fingertips to analyze policies.
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We have a series of strategic initiatives.
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We secured about $1.4 million in grants from the Arizona Board of Regents to do work into public safety retention and recruitment,
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and more recently partnering with the Sheriff's association to work on detention officer recruitment and retention. So that's
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occurring right now and over the next year we should get some good work to help inform strategies to recruit and retain folks in
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the detention offices.
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And one of the grants was to support a study into procurement. So we are working on this effort, but there's no State University.
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It's not the most exciting things for folks to think about, but as you know, procurement involves a massive amount of taxpayer
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dollars and we want to look at it, see how we can be more efficient at it and how we can measure the efficacy of our procurement
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strategies.
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You'll recall that over the last several years we've had a strategic initiative to work on the public safety pension problem where
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we wanted to identify strategies that could be deployed here at the board level, at the PSPRS Board of Trustees level and the
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legislative level. What you see here very briefly is the improvement in the funded status of PSPRS in court and that's because of
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the work of the managers group and we've all been doing together. And so real kudos to all of you.
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That's saving taxpayer money. And so as we transition from working on better assumptions at the pension system and paying this
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money down or this debt down, now we're focused on making sure that we, the Legislature, doesn't make policy changes that degrade
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this fund, right? We want to make sure that these commitments are made. So I thought that was a great chart showing how we've all
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come so far over the last several years.
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Broadband, all the counties are working on broadband. We have been serving as a hub, initially working with the legislature and
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then Congress and now with the NTIA and FCC and the governor's office and ACA. So all the partners who are working together to
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deploy broadband money. And so we talked about that regularly at the managers meeting and we are all in a common mission to deploy
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high quality broadband across the state.
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I'll transition now a little bit into the legislative side of this, which is a big portion of what we do with the
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intergovernmental work of the Legislature. And I do want to commend your staff for the feedback that we get on bills, as well as
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the work that we do with policy Development Group when when they're deployed to help assist Tila County and other counties on
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issues that are of common interest. The biggest issue we had going into this legislative session was the state's budget deficit.
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That's what we talked about, we were worried about.
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We took the legislators don't shift your problems down to us. And the good news is they did not. The legislature really focused on
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taking care of its problem within the four corners of its budget and that was a good thing. So they did solve their $1.4 billion
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problem with fund transfers, one time spending cuts, ongoing spending cuts at the state level, They preserve their $1.5 billion
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rainy day fund. And in the main they didn't affect the county. So.
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Result in that area. This shows you just some of the major buckets that they touched.
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Probably most notably when we were meeting with Greeley County and Richard Blunt recently, the sweeps of resources out of the
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Water Infrastructure Finance Authority, which was a pot of money dedicated to supplement water supplies down in the urban areas.
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Those dollars have been swept to a large degree. And so they're going to have to reset on how they're going to invest in new
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waters, not just moving waters around, but bringing new water to our water problem down in.
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County and I know the rule, the rural areas want that to be solved because there's always concerns about moving water at a rural
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area.
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But they did reduce those dollars that were available for it. They swept the opioid money at the state level that did not affect
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the county level monies, but I know some state monies were coming down as grants, but it was their choice to redirect that.
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This next slide will show you a little bit about the issues that were still lingering and still a big problem for the counties in
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the state budget.
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Most notably for Hilo County are the lack of ongoing state commitment to fund state funded probation officers. They did not follow
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through on a sustained allocation. When we recognize that that was likely not going to happen, we and the courts started pushing
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for at least a one time patch. That patch came from the governor's office in the form of ARPA money, federal dollars. So there
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still is a Cliff, a financial Cliff in.
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For the state's commitment to state funded probation office. So we're gonna have to get that fixed. We're gonna have to work with
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your legislative delegation to do that. It's not right to leave that undone. And similarly on JP salaries, cost sharing
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arrangement, counties pay 60% of JP salaries, state pays 40%. They Swatch the monies from the fund to reimburse the counties.
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We initially thought that would not be a big deal, but then they made some salary adjustments that put that fund in the deficit.
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So we're going to have to go get full funding from the state for their share of JP salaries. So just some basic technical budget
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stuff that was not solved this session.
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This slide will show you a lot of items that were in the budget. I wanted to put these in front of you because when the
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legislature does have a budget deficit often will undo a lot of commitments to the counties. And if you look under the prior
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county appropriations protected, this is where items that we worked on related to indigent defense, juvenile dependency, ERP
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relief, cyber security grants in the lottery money, even ECO grants, those were all protected and that's a good thing and.
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Legislative delegation had a big role in doing that, so they deserve a lot of accolades for that.
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A few slides remaining. A big part of what we do that's often understated is just reviewing the hundreds of bills that touch
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counties right? There are many every year. We call it reactive advocacy. It's where we review every bill, get feedback from county
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management, and then have a conversation with supervisors about our direction. This gives you a sense of the policy areas that we
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worked on this year. By and large, we were able to work out problems with lawmakers.
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That's a good thing. I think some of that is because of the split government with the Democratic governor and Republican
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legislature. So people who wanted to get bills done when we raised concerns wanted to talk about how to resolve that. So it was a
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good thing.
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This is just a list of bills that did pass. Our primary proactive agenda this year was really about the automatic recount issue.
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We did that early working with a Co. They took the lead on it and did a great job, but that was a good coalition result we were
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all proud of.
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Overwhelmingly, the other bills as I mentioned were kind of ironed out. New bills are effective September 14th, so just recently.
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And so all these things are now in law. So changes to public health for Tamale vendors and how we appoint legislators, all these
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things are now in statute. And I think it's up to Mr. Algo and team to and Mr. Menloff to implement those things and make sure
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that every everything is done properly.
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I'll bounce over this.
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We did distribute these four documents and they are very detailed analysis of and summaries of bills, budget issues, items for the
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finance director, just how counties implement those things. I wanted to flag it. They're already out in the field. Everybody's
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received those.
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This is just a quick scorecard on the number of bills that we tracked and the work we did in our LPC. Mr. Christensen is not here,
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but he sat in on all those calls every Friday and I want to commend him for that. It's a, it's a, not the best way to spend your
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Friday, but I appreciate the insight and guidance. Jacob on our team testified or we testified more than 30 times in committee
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this year. Jacob did most of that. And so we were really trying to hustle to get out there to get the message out.
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And then the final slide for you, the reward for finishing a legislative session and wrapping it up as you got to do it all over
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again. So we are treading water trying to plan for the next session. Please join us for our meetings that are coming up this
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Thursday. We have our first board meeting of the fall. And then we're going to have our legislative summit, our policy summit in
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Pinal County, where we're going to get all you together with your colleagues, set our agenda and move forward.
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And so with that, Mr. Chairman, I know I took a lot of your time, but I, I want to make sure that you see what we're doing.
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To work on behalf of your county, I want to thank you again for your partnership and I'd be happy to stand for any questions.
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Supervisor fine. Do you have any questions?
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I don't Craig, but I the 1st to say you've got an awesome team and and you guys have been so supportive for the full eight years
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I've been in this position. I just can't imagine you guys not being there. You know you do a lot. So I really wanted to tell you
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thank you for all this and we'll, we'll keep up being involved and help you out however we can. It's our pleasure, Sir. Thank you
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very much.
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And Greg, I support your team. I appreciate your team very, very much. I'm looking very full with the legislative Senate. I, I
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enjoy that, that we all can set and talk about things and what we want and what we don't want and where we're going with things.
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And I appreciate you guys for organizing us and everything else that you do. So thank you very much for taking the time to be here
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today. Well, thank you and, and I do apologize, but we are going to have to head back to the Valley, although.
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It's going to be the long way. So the roads closed, but so we will be stepping out. But I do want to thank you for all the time.
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You can go to the 88. I'm not the 88, but the 188, which takes you by Roosevelt. That's kind of a scenic. So we've got options.
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You have options. You can drive by Roosevelt at Jakes Corner in that 87 down. Perfect instrumental. I would like to say something,
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Mr. Chairman, Thank you.
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Mr. Sullivan, thank you.
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To you and your team, you are amazing. And during the legislative session there are things happening in the middle of the night,
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middle of day, all times in your your team.
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Is ready for those and they're on them and they're informative, they're communicating what is going on all the time. Appreciate
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that. That is a tremendous capacity thing that you have built into your team. But on top of that, all the different things that
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you described at the different analysis of the budgets and the things that impact us to the county at the local level and impact
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the board and what they do.
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You are supporting us and appreciate that just all the different organizations and support you had a list of those.
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It's.
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It's overwhelming, but you and your team handle it with these.
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Or make it appear that I could see. Well, thank you. I very much appreciate all that you and your team do. Thank you. And it's
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really a reflection of the close collaboration we all have together. So thank you for that.
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Have a safe trip. Will do. Thanks. Have a great day. OK.
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OK. Moving on, we're going to get into a regular agenda items and I want to let everybody know that our projectors are out today.
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So if our projectors aren't up and working, it's not, it's just the projector. So I guess we can work on getting those replaced.
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OK, moving on to regular agenda items, information discussion action to approve the Superior Court submission of the physical Year
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Fill the Gap grant application to the Administrative Office of the Courts to fund the enhanced scanning program in the amount of
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$5278.04. Mr. Gunther, good morning. Yes, good morning, Supervisor Humphrey. Supervisor client, this is our annual grant
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submittal.
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The enhanced scanning program provides scanners to our justice courts and our municipal courts. We put it through on an annual
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basis since 2014. It really helps those municipalities out as well as our justice courts and I can take any questions.
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Supervisor plan, I don't have anything. Thank you, Jonathan. Yeah, I I don't have any questions either, so I'll call for a motion.
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Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve the Superior Court submission of the FY25 Fill the Gap Grant application to the
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Administrative Office of the Courts as presented.
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I'll second that.
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All in favor say aye, aye aye passes unanimously because there's only two of us. So when you get up here, you got to convince both
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of us today because there's only two of us, but I'm kidding. Information gets an action to adopt, revise, Exhibit A, the
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resolution #24 O Dash 03 to correct tax information for Miami school district.
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#40 Pine Strawberries School district #12 and Hayden Winkelman School district #41.
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Add a section entitled Type 3 Schools Local Aid for Common Schools, all of which are on page two and four, Exhibit A and Springer
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and Company.
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Plus company today. So good morning, Mr. Chair. Good morning, Mr. Klein. To clarify, it's on page two of four, not two and four. I
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apologize for that typo.
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Originally, when we brought you the tax schedules for the coming fiscal year, we were using an old template and we were told by
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the Department of Revenue, the Property Tax Oversight Commission, that we needed to adopt the new template. So we did that for you
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and now we have updates to these taxing entities and all but one of them.
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Made it before the tax roll had to be submitted to the printer. There is one.
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That did not make it in time to get to the printer and will be corrected in the future year. That affects approximately 5400 tax
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bills and will get resolved in fiscal 26.
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Supervisor Klein.
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So the one that didn't make it, we'll go ahead and go through this year and then be corrected the following year. OK, All right
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is.
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And so is so explain to me the tax bill. How's what's that going to look like? I mean, is that are they are they going to be
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charged more, charged less or just the format for this particular one, it will be the type 3 schools, local aid for common schools
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and the rate will be slightly more than.
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What ADOR had sent to us in the revision and they will get a credit in the following year.
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Yes. OK. OK. Thank you.
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OK, I I have no question that that question was answered, so I'll call.
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For emotion, Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to adopt revised Exhibit A to resolution #24-08-03.
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And I'll second that all in favor say aye, aye aye passes unanimous. Thank you very much. And so we are moving on to 3C
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information actually to approve limit #1 to intergovernment agreement number 10042023 with the Town of Miami to provide funding
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for the Copper Mountain Transit system and the amount of $73,000 for the period of.
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Verse 2024 through June 30th, 2025. Alexis Rivera.
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And Melinda Baeza. Yeah, yeah. And. And Melinda, I'm just curious. And also Marian Billings is now.
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Good morning, Lux. It's good to have you here today. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, we declined. Thank you for the opportunity. We are
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here to continue this partnership for the community, for the Gila County. We want to provide and enhance the service that we have
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for the last 10 years with the Town of Miami.
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Our numbers are growing. We try to maintain the same numbers and expenditures and all that, but our numbers as part of the service
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that we provide and is increasing at least at 95% since 2022 and we want to continue provide the best service.
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To the community and today we want to continue the partnership and our director is going to be presenting the.
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Information.
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The boards go back.
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OK. Thank you. Good morning, Good morning.
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OK. Just a little history down right operational services since 1987, the dial right is the curb service that we provide for the
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community.
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So it's been like 37 years since we provided that. We also have a deviated fixed route since 2013. So it's been 11 years.
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Providing that ongoing service, and I'd like to add one thing that I've noticed.
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Being part of the.
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Managing the transit is that a lot of the people that call a lot of people that we service and I actually do drive on occasion
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when we need to someone 'cause I'm sick and we're short of driver. I do the dial a ride service. We're also building a community.
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And so I just like to add that that some of these Elder Scrolls, they don't have family locally, you know that.
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They just, they just have us and it's become pretty evident to me over the past.
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Few weeks and months that if we're not in operation to get these people to the grocery store or to the Senior Center, either Globe
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or Miami, to where they can have socialization or to their doctor's offices.
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There may be other sources out there, but we're actually out of the more affordable one and we've become also like family to them
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as well. So I just want to add that little piece there to that. As far as our numbers, July 2023 to June 2024, the fixed route
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average.
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The 13th 1309 people per month. July 2023 to June 2024 the dollar ride average was 372 people per month. About 78% to 82% of the
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customers originate in Globe or ending end up in Globe. Current local match split is 73,000 Globes and it's Thousand Hill County
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and 73,000 Miami.
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Our services we are open right now Monday through Friday.
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We offer the fixed route services the bus from 6:00 AM to 6:30 PM.
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The fees are haven't changed, there's still a dollar for a regular rate and $0.50.
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For somebody who has a person with a disability or a senior citizen or a student, children ride free through with an adult and
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they can also write three if they're 12 and over. Core services is our fixed route. Each route goes goes out back from each end of
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designated local area from Miami to go over go up to Miami. They kind of loop around. You might notice the copper buses.
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That come that go through here we do have our origination Globe is Alhambra is where we started in Miami. We started the magazine
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center and we start at 6:30 AM and just you know make the point complete loop.
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And they make that round about four times a date.
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Existing dialer ride services, as I mentioned, its services are disabled, elderly primarily in areas the buses cannot navigate.
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Typically DAR is used for seniors, persons with disabilities, doctor's visits, pharmacy shopping and recently we've seen an
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increase in people needing to go to work.
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So we've actually provided transportation for that as well.
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And this is just a map of the area.
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To give you an idea.
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It says Copper Valley Community Transit, that's our old name, is probably figured out how to change.
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So you've got all that. OK, so ridership. Let's see.
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From June 23 to June, July 2023 through June 24th, our ridership total fixed route and dial ride combined is 20,172 passengers. A
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fixed route 2023 to 2024 ridership total. Our writers 15,714 average averaging about 1309 a month. As I mentioned, it's usually
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one person getting on and one person getting off and then if they get back on again after a big do their shopping.
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Accounts again. So our revenue miles is 61,409, our debt miles are 4988 and our fuel gallons is $9230. Ride for the 2023-2024, the
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riders 4458 averaging about 372 a month.
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The revenue miles is 15,000 and 38 dead miles 12,663 and our fuel gallons is 1912. Our days of operation are 253 a year with an
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average of 21 days a month.
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Our top 10 destinations for public transport are the Globe Train Depot, Walmart, Miami Senior Center, Fry's, the Culver Valley
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Medical Center, Christina Apartments, Elick County Courthouse, Canal Mountains, Cobra Valley Plaza, Canal Mountain Apartment and
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the Low Mobile Home Park.
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Our reported requirements to a dot, we do reporting every month and requesting our reimbursements. They require that we do the
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ridership, which is the number of writers on and off at each location of these collective dial ride request logs with records of
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their name, their address, where they were picked up, whether it was my new globe or where they were dropped off at times and
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locations. We have a call log that records all the calls that come in that we type in.
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What was the purpose of their call?
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Like appointments, deviation requests, even complaints are even good. Good job. So maintenance, regular maintenance, certified
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repairs, and roadside compliance with Americans with Disabilities and Title 6.
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The drivers have training, they do a past training that's required every three years, certificates and the policy adherence. We
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also have online training that they do.
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Our goals for 2024 to 2025, we want to increase their ridership. We have noticed some of our writers, when I talk to them, they do
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mention that they do notice new people coming in to the area who might not have a vehicle. So they immediately call. We used to
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get these calls to to find out what is the transportation service that we provide. So we want to.
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Target the low performing bus stops by promoting them online and in person and see if that increases.
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Their numbers promote copper Mount transit services on the local radio stations reach out to public services in our community for
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possible collaboration. Review bus stops. You know, maybe map out tentative new stops that might perform better for us or provide
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a better service for our community and evaluate the pros and cons for a low performing bus stop. So we can figure out is do we
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still just keep it because it kind of helps the driver stay on on their.
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Scheduled route or is it something that we should probably, you know, decide to move to different locations?
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And that's it for my presentation so far. We appreciate your your continued support. Yeah, thank you for your presentation. Hold
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on.
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Questions or comments? So I think this is for James, probably over the years, the 73,000, this is what we've all partnered for
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quite a long time, right? Yes, since I've been here. So it's been probably a decade for the 73,000 with the Cobra Valley. Yeah. Is
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it, is there been any?
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Talks of increasing that, especially with like the inflation rates and everything everybody's faced with today or.
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I'm sure kind of Miami would anxiously engaged.
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But they've been able to be very efficient, yeah. And what they do and have been able to maintain. So hats off to the town of
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Miami absolutely managing the system and and not having come back to ask for more that they've been able to menu before through
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the increased fuel costs, labor costs and all that. So.
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That's where we're at. OK, Lexus, thank you That that is a big job to do that right now. I know that is going to be some of the
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partnership. And thank you for the opportunity to Make Love. And yeah, we're going to make a revelation later on. Like our
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director say, we have some projection. We want to make some.
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Better changes improve the county and the area.
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OK. And I have a couple questions on on fuel. You, you get your fuel at at the county. OK. So so we are helping you with kind of
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that as well. And and it's something I didn't notice employees. How many how many people do you employ with the transit system? We
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have 4 full time drivers once these little part time driver.
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And we just recently hired a part time.
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Office dispatcher and release driver and then we have me as a full time person, as a director coordinator and then I have a full
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time dispatcher. Yeah, great. So not only are you providing a service, you're providing jobs as well. So, so that's great. And and
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your dial arrived cost. If I call and and tell you that I need to go to a specific place, it's not one of your regular stops.
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I get. What's the cost of that and what's the distance you'll take me, OK.
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Good question. I mean, what if I want to go to the casino or whatever, you know, I don't know, but we've got, we've got people
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that may want to ask that question. Regarding to the casino, we have a partnership with San Carlos Apache Fry. We always try to
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maintain meetings one time a month to see how we can connect. Some people, sometimes they stop here.
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In accounting and go to Walmart in any other place? Yeah, right back to my original question. How much does that cost?
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That's OK. So we have our we have domes my from the beginning of Miami to just just at Walmart is zone 1 and then zone 2 is.
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Further into Central Heights, the fries.
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Global mobile Home Park.
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And then zone 3 starts at the Washington Bluff and goes into the town. And then zone 4 is after Canal Lumber or after Dollar
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General in that back area or in by past Vespergawa Pasadena Community Center. That's a dollar per zone. So somebody lives in Miami
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and they want to go to Walmart. That's all in zone one. That's something that cost them a dollar one way and a dollar back. And if
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they want to go all the way, let's say.
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Somebody's from the globe that lives out in Alhambra, that's 04, and they want to go to the mighty Senior Center.
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That's going to cost them $4.00, no way. And $4.00 back, OK.
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It's still pretty affordable. OK yeah, no that that's fine with that answered my question because you know that that just lets
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people know and and, and so someone asked me how you know now I could tell him it's it's per zone. It's either a dollar or $4.00,
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but still $4.00 is is not bad you know and and and so and the distance is within your mapping area from pretty much Miami to the
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other side of globe. So exactly like he mentioned we do try and partner up with.
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The times with San Carlos and people have picked us, given us or given a ride from us to the flow change people. And then from
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there they catch the San Carlos over here at Dollar General or they go walk over to good to go and catch them and go out to the
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casino. Well, well, thank you very much and thank you for the presentation and a great job in helping people and and it looks like
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you're getting more popular as far as people.
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Meeting right So.
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Thank you all very much for the presentation.
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And Mr. Chairman and Instrumental, I would like to comment.
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Thank you. Just since we're talking about an appropriation from the categories advisors 23,000, if there is a consideration for
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the board to change that amount, what I would recommend and and seek your guidance.
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Board members is to come in a work session to come and have that discussion and go through the financials in detail what is
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costing and what changes are being made so that so the board can thoroughly have a chance to go through a question and answer
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session and know what that the real.
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Well, you presented it with a more in depth discussion of what the financial needs are of the system. So that would be a next
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step. I would recommend that if there is that discussion that we do with the board and work session.
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Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Take care.
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Absolutely, and Mr. Chairman, Sir Klein would would like to report that, if I can, that the Intergovernmental Public
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Transportation Authority is established. We did have a clear meeting.
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Supervisor Humphrey did hold that meeting and the officers were elected of the IPTA, which Town of Payson mayor was the chairman,
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so it's kind of under.
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The mayor for the town patient under his direction of going forward, but kind of basically is working with CAG to develop that and
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that all will come into discussion more fully as we go forward with the IPTA and getting that established. OK, thank you.
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OK. Thank you all very much. Have a have a great day.
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OK, moving on to regular agenda item. We got a vote on this one.
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OK, no more questions. I'll call for a motion. Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve amendment #1 to intergovernmental
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Agreement number 10042023 with the Town of Miami as presented. I'll second that.
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I'll call all in favor say aye aye.
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Out of practice man. Unanimously between the two of us. OK, now we're moving on to regular agenda item 3D information actually to
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approve amendment number one to agreement number 03162023 between Helena County and the town facing in the amount of $73,000 to
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support public transportation services.
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And the patient Star Valley area for physical year 2025. Mr. Minlaw. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, if I might introduce, we are
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fortunate to have Julie Leonard representing the Town of Payson, who is managing the.
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The Northern bus system. So Julie, if you want to come up, if that's all right, that's more than fun. Thank you. Thank you for
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being here today with a presentation. All right.
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Well, good morning and thank you for.
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Considering I've been having this on the agenda today.
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So I am Julie Leonard. I'm the Community Development Coordinator for the town of Payson.
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And overseeing that at the higher level for the Beeline bus operations in. So we cover the town of Payson as well as Star Valley
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and also out into Mesa Dell, the Mesa Dell community, which is the unincorporated area around Payson but also.
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Umm, so just kind of go over some of the.
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Basic information, we began operating the Beeline bus, we acquired those services from the Senior Center in Payson in January of
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2023. So we'll just about just a little over 18 months in doing that learning a lot.
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Umm, we did receive a new bus in February 2024. That was through a grant through a dot that actually Senior Center had originally
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applied for, but it took due to COVID and all those things, it took a long time for it to be delivered to the services. So that
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was added this year.
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We did reapply for the 5311 funding through a dot and we're awarded for that funding. So that new funding begins October 2024 and
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runs through 2026.
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One of the things that we have begun last year were free ride Fridays every other month and that was part of our marketing and
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just kind of outreach trying to get.
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Just have the more knowledge about the bus availability and the routes and things like that. So we've been doing that for every
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other month. Then in the month of August we actually had a non profit step up and provide a contribution of $700.00 which paid for
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all the fares for the entire month of August. So we have an entire month that was free.
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For our local bus, for the passengers.
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It covered all the costs that normally they would pay for their fares. We did see an increase in ridership and we also saw our bus
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drivers reported that a lot of new people tried it out that maybe had been a little bit on the fence whether they wanted to try
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it. And so that was successful, gave them a chance to kind of learn the routes and try it without there being a cost. So that was
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a successful month.
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And then?
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Recently, we just submitted a grant in August for to replace one of our other buses because all of our buses are outside of the
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parameters that a dot considers to be in good service. They all have either more miles or more years on them. And obviously in
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that case that costs us more and repairs and all those kinds of things. So we will see that was just.
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Submitted that would replace our 2015 bus.
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That we currently use. We do have a fixed route. We do not have a dialer right? Just a fixed route I.
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One of the things that has been worked on since we took over the bus is letting people know that it's not just for seniors. There
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had been kind of a mindset in the area because it was run by the Payson Senior Center. Not that they promoted that, but people
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just assumed that it was only for seniors and those with disabilities. So we've been, we've been out there just making sure people
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know that.
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It's community wide, anybody can use the bus services.
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So that's one of the.
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One of the focuses we've had.
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In the last year we some of our popular places that people ride or go to and from of course probably similar to here is Safeway,
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Walmart, the Big Lots of Ashes Plaza as well as our Sawmill Plaza over there by the theater.
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We have seen an increase in ridership in Star Valley. So that was kind of lagging when we first took over, but that's increasing
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and more people are writing from Star Valley as well. Now this is our ridership numbers. You'll see the yellow line is our 222.
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That's the that's when we took or that's the Senior Center. So they there was about 4000 riders there in.
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23, we were able to get up to about 6400 riders and then right now we're, it didn't write down what the total is, but you'll see
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that we've continued to increase with the green light in the graph that we're continuing to increase ridership every month using a
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lot of social media. Our transit coordinator keeps our social media going.
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Not only to just kind of promote the service, but also let them know if there's delays or issues going on. For example, we've had
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some construction going on on our route, so trying to keep people updated when there's weekends where there's a lot of traffic
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coming from Payson to Star Valley can be a challenge in trying to keep our riders updated because they're relying on that service
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to get to work and do their shopping and do other things. So using that as a tool to kind of keep people informed.
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And our operational costs.
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So in 2023, our total, you can see our total best costs were a little over 339,000 a dot reimbursed from our revenues, which
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includes a contribution from Star Valley, the county and our our bus fares and the reimbursements from a dot that total came to
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about 314,000 and the additional covered by.
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Town of Payson, which is a match and whatever additional cost we have.
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Umm, I did want to mention that some of the costs that you don't see in there because we don't have dollar amounts for is
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obviously some of that indirect like you're our HR services, our finance services, nobody's paid out of those apartments by the
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bus and that's taken care of. Also primarily the work is done by our mechanics in the street department, so that.
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Saves a significant but does take time and money. The parts and those expenses come out of our budget, but not time.
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For the mechanics, so they primarily do that unless it's a either something under warranty or something that is beyond their
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capability. Recently we've had issues with air conditioners and we've had to use a contractor to come up and do that. And then
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that does go into the funds. But those are some of those costs that aren't actually in dollars and cents there. That would be more
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cost in 2024. We have just numbers through May of 2024 so far.
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For the cost, we're currently spending a little bit more for the town of Payson. We're at 160 right now. The revenues and
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reimbursements are 117. So currently pacing is covering about 43,000. So what we can tell just from kind of projecting out will be
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at our overall cost would be around 386,000 for the year once we get through all of you know if we kind of estimate based on what
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we've been spending the last.
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Months, so we're seeing about a just under 14% increase in costs, whether that's like I said, we have some older buses that cause
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that require more maintenance or some of our personnel costs as well so.
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We are requesting approval of the $73,000 that the county has provided in the past and we're very grateful for that contribution
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to be able to keep up the services.
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For the time being.
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And I also wanted to share.
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Some pictures of our bus drivers. They are a key part of our transit services. You know when you sit and talk with our bus
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drivers, they know the people that ride the bus, they know where the homeless person that they pick up, you know it's on and off
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and where they stay and it's they have just a care for those people that ride the bus.
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Each day and build relationships with them. So we're really grateful for those drivers as well as our transit coordinator, Juanita
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Juanita Coghill who's been.
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With us, since they were at the Senior Center and came over to the town of Payson. And again, they just build relationships with
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their riders and try to serve our community in the very best way that they can and we're grateful for their service that
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day-to-day contact that they have.
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OK, Supervisor Klein, thank you so much for your service and.
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Hopefully we can take a look at everything in the future and go from there. But we're glad, I'm glad to participate with it. So
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thank you for being here today.
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Yeah. And thank you for taking it over to another senior. Senior didn't want to continue. And it's a it's a great service for the,
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for the people. And like I say, the increase with the price of gas, you know, I mean that might be a lot for because that's a lot
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of your cost too is the increase in gas. And so I, I thank you very much for being here today and doing all that you do.
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And so if there's no further questions, Mr. And I'll be there.
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OK. Then I'll call for motion. Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve amendment number one to agreement number 03162023
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between Handler County and the Town of Casein as presented.
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I'll second that.
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And with the motion and 2nd all in favor say aye, aye, aye, fast, unanimous. Thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate it.
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OK. We're moving on to 3 E.
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Information Coaching Acts to authorize the Healer County Public Health and Community Service Department to submit a grant
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application to the American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry in the amount of $30,000 to extend oral health services in Halo County.
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Mr. Joseph. Good morning morning supervisors. So you know we continue to my health department staff continue to try to address the
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gaps in the services that are provided in the county of our local dentist and those.
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That are needed in the county with that we're still always working for a youth underserved population so that if they don't have
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dental insurance and are not access. So these funds will hopefully serve if the application is to serve 500 health screenings, 500
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fluoride treatments and hopefully around 150 dental sealants. So the services that we don't typically have money for right now not
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funded by any dentals dental that we have in Healing County. Most of these people either don't get service or.
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Service since COVID or go out of county for those services. So try to look at access to care issues and bridge those gaps.
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That's a good.
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Josh, thank you for looking for some more money. That's always a plus for us. And do we have a pretty good shot of getting an
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additional 30,000 you think or our metrics give us a related opportunity? Good, thank you for doing that. Yeah, it's a great
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program because your your dental can affect your health in so many ways. So I think that's a great deal. And I guess the other
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question is do you have.
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Dentists locally or out of town that will help with these services.
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We have a dentist that's on staff now and not part of the county. We contract with them and we have a contract until hygienist as
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well that can perform a lot of these services. OK, great. Yeah, I know that that's super okay. I have no further questions, so I
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will call for a motion. Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to authorize the Healer County Public Health and Community Services
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Department to cement a grant. Application to the American Academy of Pediatric Dentistry is presented.
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I will second that.
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And all in favor say aye aye.
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Thank you very much. Have a good day.
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We are moving on to F Information Action to authorize the advertisement of invitation for bid number 082824, Buckhead Mason
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Landfill Center Pond.
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Intern.
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Leech leaching piping project.
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Good morning. Good morning, Supervisor Humphrey and Supervisor. Good morning.
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This item is a follow up task from previous landfill expansions that the Buckhead Mesa Landfill. The last landfill expansion at
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Buckhead Mesa was completed in 2018. The Buckhead Mesa Landfill originally had one lead shaped evaporation pond known as the
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Center or Primary Leachate Evaporation Pond.
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A leche on is specifically designed containment system used to collect and used to collect and treat leachate, a liquid that
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results from decomposing waste materials.
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Subtitle D of the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act requires landfill leachate evaporation ponds to be lined with a composite
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liner with an extra geomembrane to provide UV and general physical protection to the primary liner system. The original leachate
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evaporation pond was constructed with a single layer of geosynthetic clay liner protected by a rock armor barrier and does not
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subtitle deregulations.
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Subtitle D is the portion of the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act which governs landfills.
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This act is enforced on a federal level by the United States Environmental Protection Agency and locally by the Arizona Department
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of Environmental Quality. During the Buckhead Mesa Landfill Phase two expansions, two additional evaporation ponds were
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constructed that meet subtitle deregulation. These ponds are known as the east and West leachate evaporation ponds. Both the east
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and West evaporation ponds are connected to the center leachate evaporation pond.
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Part of the original 2018 expansion documents included a leachate tie in plan, though it was removed from the scope of work before
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the bid process in 2017 due to a leak in the West evaporation bond.
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The West Pond experienced damage to the liner first in 2003, again in 2010 and twice in 2013. The damage was repaired in early
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2022 and again was damaged shortly after the repair. In 2023, Recycling and Landfill management constructed A7 foot elk fence
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around the West Pond and repaired the damage, hopefully once and for all. The ADEQ approved the repairs of the West Pond earlier
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this year.
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And recycling and landfill management is ready to conduct the leachates.
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Is ready to connect the lead J system and remove the center pond. The Public Works Department director recommends the Board of
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Supervisors authorized the advertisement of invitation for bid number 082824 for the Buckhead Mesa Landfill center pond interim
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leachate piping project. Thank you.
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Supervisor Club.
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So.
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I was trying to follow you through all that, but.
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We went from one point to another. So is this just a piping project or are we actually looking at doing something with a pawn?
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This is specifically for the pipe, the piping project. So that original center pond that does not meet subtitle D has to be closed
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and removed. The other two ponds are already in place, but we have to rerun the leachate piping system before we can actually
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remove that.
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OK. Thank you. Thank you.
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Is there an elk fence around the other coupons?
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Yes, OK. If they're the ones putting holes in it, we need to keep them out of it. Yes, we, we got the, we got the fencing put up
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with our ponds because as you can see going through the presentation that I gave, that's been a persistent problem. Yeah, I, I, I
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understand that. And and second question, you are now are working with the county. Yes. OK.
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Welcome aboard. I have not met you, so thank you for being here. Thank you for the presentation and very, very nice to meet you.
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Thank you. It's great to meet you as well. Welcome. Welcome aboard. Thank you. OK. And if there's no further questions?
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I'll call for a motion, Mr. Chair. I'll make the motion to authorize the advertisement of invitation for bids number 082824.
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I'll second that and it has a motion and 2nd all in favor say aye aye aye.
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Thank you very much, Aaron. And we're moving on to G Information discussion action to approve the use of source will contract
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number 011723 CAT for heavy equipment with related accessories, attachments, supplies, parts, labor and purchases and approved
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source will contract number 062320 DASH.
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Cat for rental and Caterpillar equipment with.
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Empire Machinery and Empire Western in an amount of not to exceed $800,000 from September 5th, 2024 through August 27th, 2025. Mr.
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Homerovia, good morning. Good morning. Chairman and Supervisor Klein, I'd like to, with your permission, just step back a little
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bit and talk, Introduce Aaron to the board, OK.
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Could it? Should have done It should have done it ahead of time, but I'll do it now.
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Comes to us from Denver, where he worked for the City of Denver and the County of Denver.
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In the collection of solid waste and in the logistics of how you go about doing that and the operation of the fleet, he introduced
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a software system out there to to provide efficiencies and improvements through the the City of Denver software system called
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Rubicon. And he was very engaged in the implementation of that and putting that in place. He comes to us with a lot of experience,
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a lot of energy, a lot of passion.
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And as you could see.
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Very professional in the work that he does and we're happy to have him. But anyway, Aaron, thank you for the presentation and
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thank you for being with Helena County.
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OK, so on to my item then. This item is for board approval for an annual contract using a source well contract number 0117923 Dash
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CAT Cat and 06/23/20 Dash C at for heavy equipment purchases, related accessories, attachments, parts, supplies and rentals.
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And normally when we buy a motivator, we don't use this source of funding.
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That's a standalone. That would be a standalone item that the board approved. When it mentions equipment in here, it's talking
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about like a brush cutter that we bought last year, a Co planner that we bought last year with, with this type of money. So in
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August 7th of 2018, the board approved the first of these cooperative agreement for purchasing and and and and repairing heavy
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equipment.
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For a sum of $400,000. That was back in 2020. In 2021.
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The board again approved a $560,000 annual contract for this type of materials in 2020, two 600,000 Last year the board approved a
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contract for $800,000 of which we have spent $523,000 to this point. OK, some of the expenditures I mentioned.
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A brush cutter and a flow cleaner, but also a transmission reseal with the very highest resale and repair.
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With the highest item if I ranked order them from largest dollar amount to at least dollar amount you will see a $30,000
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transmission resale and repair. OK another item was a bucket attachment for a wheel loader $25,000 a rental for a dozer of $24,000
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and then you would see a multitude of items like edges and just repairs and and parts for the cat equipment.
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Totaling, like I mentioned earlier, $523,000. So we asked for $800,000, we didn't spend it. We're doing the same thing this year.
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We're asking for the board approve $800,000.
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Contract and our hope is not to spend it, but to have it as we need it. One of the items that we did my last year that was of
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interest to me is a generator for Canal Peak. It's for radio transmission at Canal Peak. And I asked the team to go out and get
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free folks on that. And it turned out that the lowest quote was this source for contract agreement that we have.
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And I was, I was happy to hear that. And nonetheless, this is a lot of this stuff is for, for Caterpillar parts that we would need
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to go to them anyway. It's a, it's a, it's a nationwide agreement used by many organizations and we would like to ask your, your
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approval for this particular contract.
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Supervisor client questions Comment I don't have any questions tomorrow. I know it's worked good with Force in the past so I'm
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good with it.
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I have no questions and nothing else. I'll call for motion. Mr. Chair. I'll make the motion to approve the use of Source Well
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contract number 011723 Dash Cat and approve Source Well contract number 062320 Dash Cat with Empire Machinery and Empire SW as
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presented.
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I'll second that.
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Aye, aye, OK, approved unanimously. Moving on to H&M, where are you still on the information action to approve the continued use
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of the purchase agreement, Caterpillar transaction number 355-8441?
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For a 2018 Model 120M2 AWD Caterpillar Motor grader, serial number M 980-0559 and authorized the 7th annual payment in the amount
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of $31,552.58.
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No, you're on. Thanks, Chairman. This, this item is to request your approval for the 7th payment of A7 year lease. But it starts
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with a payment at the beginning of the year and at the end of the year. So there's 8 payments in total. This would be the 7th, the
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7th payment, the amount that that you mentioned earlier, Chairman, $31,552.58, we have 1 remaining payment of 95,293.
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90 I'm sorry, $95,293.44 next year.
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That we'll be asking for your pool, but today we're only asking for that seventh payment for your approval.
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This is an unusual transaction for public works. We normally don't lease equipment, We lease this one. We're not in favor of
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leasing and will in the future perhaps not use lease unless we see something of value for it. But just for, for, for your
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knowledge, we bought this moderator.
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For 245,000 dollars $245,214.00 that was a principle that we paid for the motor grader, we paid interest of 54,181 when we're all
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said and done at the end of next year and so.
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If we want to have the money, perhaps the lease would be the way to go, but as long as we have money in the budget to buy
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equipment, the suggestion from staff will be in the future to pay for it outright. For today, we're asking for for you to approve
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the 7th payment.
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OK, Supervisor client question. Thank you. I know when we did this, it was to see how it's going to work out for us and, and what
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about the maintenance on the machinery like that is, is is there any benefit to that or, or if you went out and just bought say a
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brand new motor grader, how many years of warranty work would be available on that grader?
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I believe that there was seven years of warranty on that deal.
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And so we do get the benefit of that.
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OK, so.
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So fortunately, I know that piece of machinery and I don't believe you've had any real big major issues with it. So I mean, there
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wasn't a big cost.
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Mechanically on it supervisor and Chairman, I, I don't have that data point, but next time we come to the board with purchase of
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motivator will share the benefits of this one particular motivator over the seven-year time frame.
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So what you guys are suggesting is it cost us 50 plus $1000 to to rent this versus buying it outright?
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Correct. So going forward in the future, your suggestion is, is we just buy them outright?
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Correct.
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Because the interest is like, it's like leasing a vehicle. You still pay for brakes and you still pay for tires. Yeah. And you
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normally you don't see an engine or or a transmission fail on a motivator the first seven years.
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OK. Thank you, Homer. I have no questions, so I'll call for a motion.
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Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve the continued use of the purchase agreement Caterpillar transaction number.
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355-8441 and authorize the 7th annual payment as presented.
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I'll second that and all in favor say aye aye aye have approved unanimously moving on to aye information action to approve
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economic development agreement number 06102024 between Gila County and Geisela Valley Community Affairs Association in the amount
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of $12,915 and.
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$0.02.
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To assist with replacing the age group on a building and replacing damaged and broken windows, which the board has been.
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Which the board is determined to be for the benefit of the public. And this is my constituent funds. And so this is on me. And
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what this building is, is it's the Community Center for Garcela and and it also houses the Dicella fire engine.
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Or the fire department.
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And, and, and it actually benefits the community in a lot of ways. And, and the reason I know that is because in the past there's
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been issues where I have talked to maybe one of the churches to be able to use some of the church grounds or some of the, some of
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the deals from the churches. And the churches are very nice, but they also tell you what. Well, that's what our Community Center
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is for.
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So, so they, they do have, you know, they do have fundraisers there. They do have like you can drop off books and things there,
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so.
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So even even the churches in Garcia are, are promoting it as a Community Center. So that's, that's why I feel that it would be
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beneficial to the public because they, they hold a lot of functions there. They, they house the, the fire engine for the Volunteer
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Fire Department and so.
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If there's any questions, I'll be happy to answer questions best I can.
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Tim, I don't have any questions. I just, I just want to say that in a lot of these rural communities when they have those
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centralized buildings and Community Center, everything that happens in that community happens at that building. I mean that's just
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the focal point for every one of our rural communities that we have as some kind of establishment like that. And so it could be
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anything from weddings to fundraisers to.
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Whatever, but it'll it'll happen in those those places. So I totally support this.
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Well, I appreciate that very much, and if there's no further questions, I'll call for motion. Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to
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approve Economic Development Agreement number 06102024 with the Garcia Valley Community Affairs Association as presented, which
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the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public.
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I will. I will second that.
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And all fruits say aye aye aye passes unanimously. Thank you very much. Going on to Jay. Information discussion action to approve
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Economic Development Grant number 08282024 between Healer County and the Town of Winkelman in the amount of $2000 to assist with
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the production of the town's annual Halloween event and the annual Christmas event for the.
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Of Lincoln and the surrounding areas, which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public, Mr. Supervisor Woody
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Clown.
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Thank you, Mr. Chair. So as it says, this is there in Winkelman there at the town right across the street from the main office
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buildings. It's more or less the same type of setup. That's that's a place where they go to have a lot of different functions
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there. A lot of participants from the neighboring communities, Kearney, Dudleyville, other places around there are take part in
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that as well. So this is an event that's happened for.
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Pretty much every year I've been on the board, so any questions I won't be going down soon.
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I have no questions, but like you said, these rural communities, when they have events like this, you know, a lot of people show
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up. It's not just a few. I mean, it's it's a community supported event and so.
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Umm, If there's no further questions, I'll call for a motion. Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve Economic Development
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Agreement number 08282024 with the Town of Winkelman as presented, which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the
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public. I'll second that.
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And call and all approved say aye aye aye fast unanimously moving on to Kay information gets national to approve economic
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development grant agreement number 08172024 between Hila County and the water wheel.
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Fire and Medical District for the purchase of two M-150 dash mount radios in the amount of $6474.69, which the Board has
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determined to be for the benefit of the public supervised client. Thank you, Mr. Chair. And so this is to help them out getting
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new radios in both of those those vehicles. It'll help them. It's the newer radios. They'll have capabilities of connecting to
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everything.
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So, so I was, I was really interested in helping do this. Now I will say that this one and the prior agenda I don't are both of my
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constituent funds. I, I failed to mention that to be going with so so it's coming down my constituent funds. I will say that
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personally, I think this is probably the limit to me buying radios this year. I think we've I've I participated in purchasing
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enough.
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So.
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And so I think communication is extremely beneficial to our first responders. Without it, it is there not much help. So, so I
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think it's great that we're we're that we're able to be able to help them. And with that, I'll I'll call for a motion. Mr. Chair,
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I'll make the motion to approve Economic Development Agreement number 08172024 with the Water Wheel Fire and Medical District as
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presented, which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public.
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I will second that and all in favor say aye aye aye. Passed unanimous. Moving on to L Information Action to accept a franchise
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application submitted by Whitney and Burke of Shapiro Law Firm, EC on behalf of Payson Water Water Company Incorporated and set a
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public hearing date of November 4th, 2024 at which.
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The Board of Supervisors will consider issuing a 25 year public utility franchise to pay some water company incorporated Samantha
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Grimm.
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Thank you, chairman and Supervisor Klein. So this is exactly as stated in the suggested motion. This is to accept 2 franchise
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applications. So item L and item M So the first one is for Peace and Water Company and the second one is for Tunnel Basin Water
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Company. This is the first step of the two step process that we do to issue franchises. So this is to accept the application and
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then set the public hearing date for November 5th, 2024.
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I will take any questions if you have them.
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Supervisor Klein.
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Sam, I do have one, but I'm not sure Randy might be the one to answer them.
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We accept these applications for the franchises, then we set the, then the November 5th public hearing date will take place after
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that hearing date. What would be the protocol then? I mean, what's our steps after that? And the other question I would have Randy
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for you is, is there any feedback on these applications or any concerns or anything that you're hearing?
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Can't hear you?
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That's better.
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And so someone, we've heard nothing back from anyone on any conference floor or against.
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This initiative and be honest with you, I think it would be the attorney that we would not do what the next step is. I don't have
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any really involved with that. OK, All right. So we go through today and whatever happens today, the next step will be the public
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hearing and then that's going to be in Payson.
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Do we know?
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OK.
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All right. Thank you, Randy. That's all I had. Mr. Chair. Homer, did you have something that you'd like to share with us?
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Yes, Chairman, thank you. The franchise agreements have to do with the use of our public roads. Yes, we would like to look at the
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at the applications that they submit and we'd like to review them. In the franchise agreement that I've seen almost in all of
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them, it requires them to use the right of way permit. When they do work on our Rd. we will be guiding them as to where the
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utility should go. We often times see boxes almost.
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In the middle of the road, they should be on the edges of the road. When they do apply for a right away permit they would get,
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they will get additional guidance from us. The franchise agreement, my understanding of the franchise agreement, it merely allows
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them to use our roads and they in turn provide the insurance, the warranty, the indemnification and that the acknowledgement that
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if they need to remove that that utility later on when we expand the road that they are obligated to do that. And so I see those
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as the benefits.
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For us, the benefits for them.
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Is that they have a, a, a license to use an agreement. Otherwise they would have to come to the board every time they were to
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Ashburn to use our Rd. they would have to come and ask for that license. They do it here for a long period of time. Usually
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they're 25 years. But the right of way permit is still required of them. And we will, we will work with them to, to make it as as,
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as, as as easy as can be. But we, we've seen so much evidence of the utilities placing utilities in in in the wrong place mostly.
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Convenience for them instead of where it ought to be on the edge of the road, 3 foot deep, etc. So we would like to look at that.
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The franchise agreement going forward, maybe public works have not done so, but we would like to be a participant in in looking at
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them ahead of the public meeting.
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Mr. Chair, for me.
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Homer for the Pace and Water company and the next item is going to be Tunnel Basin Water Company.
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In prior years they already have infrastructure in place, correct?
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Correct, yes. And so how, what happens when there's a new franchise put in place that that just automatically takes over all the
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old infrastructure that's there plus any new stuff that comes forward? Is that the way that works?
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Many of the franchises that I've seen.
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Require the same things that I just talked about right now we're using kind of like the same, the same format to issue these
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franchises. And so if in the past that required they were obligated to move equipment if we expand the road or something, they're
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still, in my opinion, they're they're still obligated to do that. But we would take that up with county attorneys for for input.
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So one more question if I may. With both of these water companies that we're going to be discussing today, is there any issues
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like you stated already with water boxes in the middle of the roads that are out there and things of that nature we would have to
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do?
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Overview of their determination.
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We're not, I'm not proposing that we ask them to move all of them out. I'm just saying that there, there may come a point in time
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when we need some of these things moved that have been put in the past. And, and at that point, we're going to have to determine
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who is responsible for that. Is it the county or is it the utility? Well, and I know we dealt with it there. Roosevelt, your, your
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street there. I mean, that was a big headache with all the water.
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Infrastructure in the road there. So questions I just wanted to ask since we're talking about and it's coming up is.
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Is all is this is to get off on the right foot? What are we going to need to do basically?
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To get up on the, on the right foot, I think that there's an issue where they need to show that they have the, the legal
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wherewithal to operate as a utility and that they're going to do it responsibly. I think that's part of the, the statements that
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are in the franchise agreement. And I think what they, what they need, what the utility needs to know is that there is a right of
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way permit that they're still obligated to abide by. And we, we need to, as they say county, we need to make sure that we're doing
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our very best.
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To place utilities on the edges where we can, unless they're very 3 foot deep.
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And make sure that they don't affect the safe passage on on roads as some of them currently do. Thank you. Homer. I guess I've got
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a question where you may not be able to answer this, but I I guess just out of the blue, why? Why are they?
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Applying for a franchise, is it because the state's requiring it? Is it because the county's requiring it? It's like, I'm
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wondering, OK, here we've had water companies for going on and everybody's had their water and all of a sudden we've got a couple
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communities that are applying for 25 year franchises. My question is.
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Why?
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That's OK. If nobody can answer that, that's fine. It's just a question I have.
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Mr. Chairman, in the interim time between now and in the daily hearing, the County Attorney's Office will reach out to this law
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firm. I'm not familiar with it, but we will ask them for a copy of their gratification in all the legal documents that they intend
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to present and go forward with at the time of that hearing and work with the Public Works Department to ensure that the county's
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needs are met should the board.
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Decide to grab the franchise agreement is the discussion is said. Franchise agreements are nothing new to Tehila County and a
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number of different types of utilities utilize franchise agreements if permitted by Arizona law to operate. But we have some say
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in how those agreements are structured and make sure that whatever the structure is.
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Works the benefit of heated county.
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Mr. Chairman, yes, Mr. Minimum, go ahead. If I could add that this is one of the projects that Marion Shepherd has been
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undertaking before she retired and was still working on it somewhat is to clean up our records. All, all utility covers are
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required to have a franchise agreement with the county. And so because of that, she's been working to go through and make sure
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that all of our utilities are properly recorded, registered through these franchise screens.
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OK, Yeah, that's good information because like I say, all of a sudden point and and yeah, I think it's great that the county is
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looking at that to be to be good with the county with our roads and stuff. But but we all have to have to look at it from the
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constituents point of view too. Is it going to help, you know, with the service and and responsibility to the constituents for the
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water that they consume. So anyway, OK then.
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Moving right along.
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For your information.
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Supervisor, client, I'll call for a motion before I forget. All right, Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to accept a franchise
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application submitted by Whitney Burke of Superior Law Firm, PC, on behalf of Patient Water Company, Incorporated and set a public
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hearing date of November 5th, 2024.
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I'll second that and having a motion to second all in favor say aye, aye aye.
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Was approved 100% and we're going to go on to M everybody's discussion actually to accept a franchise application submitted by
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Whitney Burke of Shapiro Law Firm, PC on behalf of the Tunnel Basin Water Company, Incorporated and set a public hearing date on
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November 5th, 2024 at which time the Board of Supervisors will consider issuing a public utility.
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Franchise to Tunnel Basin Water Company Incorporated Samantha Trimble is that kind of a Ditto.
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OK, you can say that, you know, I mean, it's up to you.
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OK. And then I guess that was a Ditto. Is there anybody that would care to comment on that one? No, I think we actually don't
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pretty good on the town of eight facing water. So supervisor plan, I'll call for a motion if you have no questions or comments,
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Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to accept a franchise application submitted by Whitney Burke, a Shapiro Law Firm, PC, on behalf of
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Tunnel Basin Water Company, Incorporated.
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And set a public hearing date of November 5th, 2024.
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I will second that and call.
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Aye, aye, yeah, one of those. OK, moving on to four.
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Consent agenda items.
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Any matter on Consent Agenda will be removed from the Consent Agenda and discussed and voted upon as a regular agenda item upon
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the request of any member of the Board of Supervisor. Supervisor Klein, is there any item you would like to discuss from the
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consent agenda item A through G?
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I just let him walk all the way back to the room and sit down before he asked his question. Huh.
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I've got a question on B and that's the extension of the environmental documents and clearances on 512. I just curious as.
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The holdup.
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Wait, OK, do we need we need to remove DI? Don't have a problem with it. I just I just want to know the reason why it's held up.
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OK, well then I will. I guess I'll take D off.
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And we will be invested as a OB. Yeah. OK. Then item 4B will be a regular agenda.
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And then that way we can ask questions without worrying about it. OK. And so anyway, now agenda item, we're we're doing for the
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and a regular agenda item. And OK, we, we don't have a presentation, but we do have a question. So the question supervisor plan,
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go ahead.
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So.
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That we have an extension on this for these experiences, these environmental documents and on on the 512. So my question was, is,
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are we hung up on something or?
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No, the chairman and supervisor, the folks doing the environmental study, just needed more time.
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It's it's that simple. They they they asked for more time and laid out the work that yet needs to be done.
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And, and it's something that they're going to do within the budget number. And the only request on their part was signed. OK. I, I
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had a pretty good comment about about them and their work from the Forest Service here a few days ago. So I just made me think
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about that. So that's all I had, Mr. Chairman.
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Yeah, and that's great to hear that they're asking for an extension of time without more money, all the smoke. Good for them.
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Okay, then I guess we don't need to. Well, we do need to vote on that. So I will ask for a motion to approve item 4B as presented
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so much, Mr. Chair. OK, and I'll second that.
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All in favor say aye, aye aye. OK then I am also asking for a motion to accept consent, agenda item A and then.
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CDEFG so moved, Mr. Chair, I will second that. And all in favor say aye aye.
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Consent agenda items A/C DEFG approved. OK, moving on to five call to the public. Do we have any public up in Payson that cares
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for comment?
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I I I see none here. Do we have any comments in the computer world today?
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How many present did we have today?
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52 How great that is, you know, I mean, because you look around here and you don't see a whole lot but staff, but it's nice that
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people do care and they do participate and then they get on Facebook and present to their friends. So it's great that our meetings
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are getting getting out there and and and viewed. So OK, then we'll move on to six at any time during the meeting pursuant to ARS
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431.02 K Members of the Board of Supervisors and County Manager may present a brief summary of current events. No action may be
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taken on information presented. Mr. Min Love, do you have something for us? I do, Mr. Chairman.
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1st is having a discussion the horse riders approved a remodel of the pacing courthouse that we're work. I've been working on the
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logistics because that's going to upset and and 'cause they're actually a relocating of those staff that work in the patient
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courthouse who are up to six months.
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And so we're going to find a meeting a couple weeks with Judge Drive with County Attorney and differs to make sure we have ironed
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out the logistics of where they can work because.
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Essentially, that building is going to be completely closed down for business purposes for about 6 months.
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So that is coming up in a couple of weeks planning to start construction, I would say probably the first year in January.
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Last week I attended the PILT fly in part of that on one day was able to visit with Senator Kelly's and Congressman Cranes offices
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talked about our to take them. First of all, thank them for the support they've given Helena County for projects and all the
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different things they do on behalf of the county.
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So let them know that we.
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Have made good use of their support and secondly that to kind of gear up of the things and the projects that we're still working
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on that we may ask for congressionally directed spending for things like that.
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The umm.
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Then we also had visits with a number of federal senators and congressmen in their office to talk about PILT. The things that we
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use to PILT money for and how essential it is that because we have 96 1/2 percent of our land in Hewlett County is federal, are
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not within our taxing authority. That the built payment, which is a fraction of what we would collect on property taxes, that it
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is essential.
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Essential for us to continue operations to have that far with payment list last June was about $4.5 million and we hope that as
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reauthorized requires an reauthorization that Congress every year. So I appreciate the opportunity to go and and visit with those.
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Thorough senators and representatives.
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Finally, next week, I will be attending meetings with parents on the Local Government Employed Benefit Trust. So there's a work
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session plan for next week and I will be gone. Michael will be here to stop that and be here for support that this is our health
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insurance, that we will be gone next Tuesday for meetings related to our employee health insurance.
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That's it, Mr. Chairman.
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OK, thank you very much, Supervisor Klein. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So start with James. Thanks for doing the fly in. That's that's
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important. We show a presence there and talk to those folks. It's it's always a good deal to do. So appreciate that. Last weekend,
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last Saturday night we had the the gala and Payson for the PVBR Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat.
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Went very, very well and I want to thank everybody who's there and.
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It was a really good turn out. It looks like the, the amount of money that was raised is going to be right around $58,000. And so
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that's that's a really, really big plus for our retreat and a lot of good comments and a lot of good discussions and, and all
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that. It was a really good turn out.
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On October 1st, I'll be headed to Washington State. I'll be attending the WI, our meeting for two or three days in Washington
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state, Colville, and we have been right. After that we're going to have the legislative summit down there at the casino in
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Maricopa, just outside of Maricopa. So that's all I had, Mr. Chair. OK, thank you very much. Supervisor Klein. Me, I held a
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Roosevelt community meeting.
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And like I say, some of those rural communities.
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Meetings like Tunnel Basement, they've turned a public outreach for for a lot of the others too. Salt River Project was at the
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Roosevelt community meeting talking about lines that they may work on in the future and where they're going to be placed. George
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Glocko from ADOT was there. Lieutenant Lottie from the Sheriff's Office was there.
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The road Superintendent through there and and the Fire Chief of Tunnel Fire was there.
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And you know, I was there to kind of let them know what we were doing with buyout and things of that nature. And there was about
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20 people. So I can say that those role meetings have turned out pretty good because then it's outreach for some of these other
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departments. So it's, it's turned more into informative meetings rather than complaint meetings. But we do get some. And so, so I
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really appreciate staff and the Esso and stuff being there. So, you know, we can, we can get right on.
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Those issues may be so I appreciate that tentative County growers state fry and I showed up late. I guess I was I was on my
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calendar. I had from 12:00 to 2:00 and I guess it started earlier than 12 because I wasn't much earlier than you. So yeah, it was
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it was about over. But but anyway, I enjoyed it, you know, because even though I didn't make actual meeting, but you walk around
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to the tables and you sure get a lot of information.
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From walking around and visiting with with the people that were that were there that's for sure and then I'm looking forward to
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Thursday meeting with Jeremy playing out at Roosevelt Lake. He's out there for the Forest Service and what we're working on is a
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is a floating dock and beach area at Roosevelt because.
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So much of that lake is is not, you know, I mean it there's roads to boat ramps.
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But you can't swim and stuff around them. So we're working on on doing a layout there by Wendy Hill where there's be a whole Cove
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and turn it into kind of a beach where the floating dock for Ada, but it can be used by everybody and there's already a big
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parking place there. So I'm looking very forward to meeting with Jeremy there because there's there's grants available, but
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apparently he's unable to put in for grants. So working with Michael O'Driscoll and we're looking at things so.
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Maybe we can put in for the grants alone with him and the information to be able to get a better use area for for handicapped and,
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and and normal people to be able to use Roosevelt Lake Point so.
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Other than that, I have nothing. And if there's nothing else that anyone would care to share.
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I will adjourn today's meeting. Thank you, Albert, Mr. Chair.
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Good.
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