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Testing, testing. 00:00:00
Testing, testing, testing. 00:00:03
I can't hear this one, huh? 00:00:06
1001 I'll call this meeting to order. 00:00:10
It is. 00:00:14
This today. 00:00:15
It is Tuesday, April 29th here in Globe in 2025 if you don't know that. 00:00:17
And so call the meeting to order. And I've asked Mary Springer if she's lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance if you don't stand. 00:00:23
Of the United States of America. 00:00:33
1 nation under God, indivisible. 00:00:38
Thank you. 00:00:47
Well, good morning again everyone. So we have a work session today and that pretty we like to talk about a lot of things and just 00:00:56
bring that up. 00:01:00
With three items and they're all going to be. 00:01:04
Great items the particular time. 00:01:07
So we'll get started and. 00:01:10
The first item is to a information and discussion. 00:01:12
To receive an update from the Hewitt County Community College Board regarding accreditation. 00:01:16
And approval and financial state of the organization. We have a lot of representatives from the Board and so Janice Lawthorne is 00:01:22
coming up. 00:01:27
And she'll conduct that. And so, yeah, give us your presentation. I think we all have this. 00:01:34
And then? 00:01:40
We can talk. 00:01:42
Good morning. So again Doctor James Hawthorn from Healey Community College. 00:01:43
It will be actually. 00:01:49
One year ago tomorrow since we were here last. 00:01:51
But I will tell you that there are a lot of updates in what we've been doing the last year. I think you'll be very pleased. 00:01:55
So on January 21st of this year, we received an official action letter from Accrediting Commission for Community and Junior 00:02:03
Colleges indicating that. 00:02:08
We were awarded candidacy status for two years. We also received 1 commendation, 2 compliance requirements for initial 00:02:13
accreditation, and one recommendation to improve institutional effectiveness and. 00:02:19
I'll take out the end to show you our our website where all of these documents are posted for you. 00:02:26
In regards to our exemplary performance. 00:02:34
We received for fostering a sense of belonging and community with students. 00:02:37
One of the things that the ACC JC. 00:02:41
Site visit team was so impressed with. 00:02:46
With with community support when we held our events on campus. 00:02:49
They said they'll go to other institutions and they might get 3 or 4 people that want to come in and make comments about what's 00:02:54
going on at the college. 00:02:58
We had about 20 people here in Globe. We had over 30 people in patient from the community come and show support for the college 00:03:02
and it was not just. 00:03:07
The number of people that came, but the caliber of individuals that showed up to support the college was extremely impressive and 00:03:12
we thank all of you for that. 00:03:16
They also indicated that. 00:03:22
One of our commendations was that we provide opportunities for engagement, particularly with older adults, high school population, 00:03:24
school enrollment and we have career and technical education partners. 00:03:29
Cleaning with the mind in the area. 00:03:34
So they were pretty excited and said. 00:03:36
We should be a model for the rest of the country for what we do with dual enrollment. 00:03:38
In regards to the compliances, we have a compliance requirement and so. 00:03:44
They want us to. 00:03:49
Set institution standards and provide meaningful disaggregated data to inform plans for continued improvement. 00:03:51
One of the things that we didn't have, of course, is. 00:03:59
We don't have any students and so they want us to be able to set those standards for core success. 00:04:02
Degree and certificate attainment, what our transfer rates are going to be, job placement as well as licensure. 00:04:07
Examination pass rates. 00:04:13
So it's kind of hard to set those standards. 00:04:15
When we didn't have any students, so we kind of expected this one. 00:04:17
In addition to that. 00:04:20
They wanted us to operationalize our governance structure. 00:04:22
They wanted to see an updated organizational chart. 00:04:26
See that our committees were happening like we had indicated they would, and then we have some additional policies and procedures 00:04:29
to write. 00:04:33
Some of the recommendations they made. Actually, this was one huge long recommendation. It was all in one sentence. I broke it up 00:04:39
just a little bit so it makes it a little more easier to understand. But they want us to integrate some evidence of impartiality 00:04:44
and accountability. 00:04:49
More directly into our strategic planning, use some disaggregated data to address achievement gaps. Increase student feedback 00:04:54
participation. 00:04:58
And ensure that our resources, innovations and long term planning are aligned with our stated goals and objectives, particularly 00:05:02
in upcoming planning sessions for Strategic. 00:05:07
Umm, plans? 00:05:12
The path to initial accreditation. 00:05:15
Is those items that are listed as requirements will serve as the application for initial accreditation, so we have to respond to 00:05:19
the items that they have concerns with. 00:05:25
It's due no later than October 1st, 2026. 00:05:31
We have to have another peer review team site visit. They'll come to the campuses again. And then what they've indicated to us is 00:05:35
that the Commission only needs twice a year. They meet in January and they meet in June. And so if we have our items in by October 00:05:40
1 of 2026. 00:05:46
Then the Commission would hear that initial accreditation. 00:05:52
Meeting in January of 2027. 00:05:55
So can we get it sooner than that? Yes. And Justice for clarification, initial accreditation because I was like initial 00:05:58
accreditation. That sounds like there's something else like before you get to accreditation. They're like, no, Janice, what that 00:06:03
means is. 00:06:08
Initial accreditation just means it's the first time you've ever had it. 00:06:13
Then you just go into the same 8 year cycle as the rest of the institutions and so when we have initial accreditation, we get it 00:06:18
by January 2027. We could also have it by. 00:06:24
June of 2020. 00:06:31
Six, we get all our little ducks in a row. 00:06:33
So one of the the issues, I shouldn't say issues, one of the, the things that we had to take care of right after we got candidacy 00:06:40
status in January is submit an application to be able to offer distance education courses. So. 00:06:47
When a when a committee comes and reviews an institution and you've been teaching online courses for years and years and years. 00:06:54
They just look at your previous semester of courses to see if you have the substantial interaction between the students and 00:07:02
students and students, students and faculty and faculty and students. And so since we didn't have a learning management system set 00:07:09
up that belonged to EAC, they said you're going to need to submit an application. 00:07:15
So I submit an application. I set up an ad hoc committee, put everything together. I didn't want them to have any questions. I 00:07:22
submitted on February 24th. 00:07:26
Got approval on February 25th so we will be teaching online courses to bridge the gap of our great large county. 00:07:30
And be able to serve all the residents of Gila County. We are using a system called Bright Space and we are currently developing 00:07:39
courses for distance education. 00:07:44
So student information system. 00:07:52
Our admissions went live on April 7th. We are in the process right now of admitting students. 00:07:55
We anticipate. 00:08:01
Rolling out our new website. If not the end of the week, it'll be the first part of next week. 00:08:03
We have a catalog which I can also show you a link to that catalog as well to see what. 00:08:09
We've been doing over the last year. 00:08:13
We've set up accounts receivable and payables. 00:08:16
And then we plan on HOP. 00:08:19
Holding our very first session. 00:08:21
In July of 2025 for students. 00:08:24
So we we anticipate offering classes. 00:08:27
At that point. 00:08:29
There's been a. 00:08:32
Where are you? All right, there you go. 00:08:35
Good morning, Chairman and board members. 00:08:39
So as. 00:08:42
Doctor Lawhorn said. We've been very busy. There's been a lot of parts and pieces to put together to create this wonderful 00:08:43
Community College. 00:08:47
And part of it is. 00:08:51
Library and learning resources. We've gone out to bid. 00:08:53
And going we've gone out to quote for many of these services. 00:08:57
And provided online resources. 00:09:01
That meet our students needs. 00:09:05
So we have EBSCO. 00:09:07
Ovid, we've contracted with a company called by Water Solutions. 00:09:09
For that Koha integrated library. 00:09:14
Online tutoring. Who knew there was such a thing when I went to college? 00:09:17
I didn't have that. 00:09:22
But it's a really neat option for students that need additional assistance. 00:09:23
And we were able to find a vendor called Brain Fuse that provides a really great service. 00:09:28
We've contracted with them in February of this year's after going off the RFP. 00:09:34
Accounting and general Ledger. 00:09:39
We have QuickBooks online. 00:09:42
We've actually engaged them since August of 24. 00:09:44
And we've done our general Ledger setup and our accounts payable and vendor setup, so we're able to pay our vendors. 00:09:48
And the nice thing about that? 00:09:55
We are in the process that we are currently paying our bills. 00:09:57
That means that for every bill that we pay, that's 25% less. 00:10:01
And that we have been paying. 00:10:06
EAC. So we are in the process of converting all that bill payment. 00:10:08
Hours and payroll. 00:10:13
Miss Avlar will speak more to that, but we've been engaged with ADP. 00:10:15
And we do have some part time employees at the moment. 00:10:20
Oh, so have you changed? 00:10:24
Our board minutes. 00:10:30
Meeting minutes and meetings and our policies are all out there. You're able to get to them from our website. 00:10:32
It's a fantastic assembly is really a fantastic system. 00:10:38
And very easy to use and very easy to read and follow if you want to attend any of the board meetings. 00:10:42
Are we do have a mass notification system? 00:10:49
That's called regroup. 00:10:52
And that was put into place January 29th of this year. 00:10:54
Our marketing campaign is very important to getting. 00:10:58
This college launched. 00:11:01
And launched in the right way where we have. 00:11:02
We have a new mascot, we have new colors, we have new. 00:11:05
Videos. 00:11:09
So when you go to the website which. 00:11:10
It's, I don't know that it's launched to the public, but it's out there for viewing. 00:11:12
It's very interactive. 00:11:17
And it's we've engaged with access culture for targeted. 00:11:19
Marketing for our cosmetology and fire science program. 00:11:24
But we engaged with razor thin media I know that you're very familiar with. 00:11:28
And they've done an excellent job building our website. 00:11:32
And they'll be our marketing partner for the next two years. 00:11:35
Like I said, new colors, new website. 00:11:40
Our Hilo Hawks. 00:11:43
Mascot is. 00:11:45
Very exciting. 00:11:48
To be part of something being built from the ground up and all these pieces and all these components. 00:11:50
Really make. 00:11:56
A new college that's going to be great for our county citizens. 00:11:57
Alrighty, so let me provide you some updates regarding some of the programs that we've been working on. I know many of you have 00:12:06
been interested in what's going on with the nursing program. 00:12:10
So I can tell you. 00:12:15
I have exciting news for what's going on with the nursing program on April 20. 00:12:17
First last Monday. 00:12:23
We had the State Board of Nursing come out to the Pacing campus. They're originally going to go to our main campus here in Globe 00:12:25
and decided to go to the Payson campus due to all the construction and everything. I guess there was some additional construction 00:12:29
down the Phoenix area, but they came up. 00:12:34
For a site visit at our Casing campus and then did a virtual tour of our Gila Pueblo campus as well while they were there. 00:12:39
Umm, they have recommended. 00:12:48
That are provisional application. 00:12:50
Go to the board. Go to the full Arizona State Board of Nursing on May 23rd. 00:12:53
On the consent agenda. 00:12:59
And you all know what happens when they put stuff on the consent agenda. That's a great thing. 00:13:01
And so on May 23rd. 00:13:06
When that is approved at the State Board of Nursing. 00:13:08
We will have a nursing program that will start in the fall. 00:13:12
We will be able to launch that. 00:13:15
In the fall. 00:13:17
We will be we will be pushing all kinds of social media regarding our using program. 00:13:18
I do something no. 00:13:25
All right, so. 00:13:28
Again, we have to wait until we get approval of our provisional application at the State Board of Nursing on May 23rd before we 00:13:32
can physically say we have a nursing program and we can accept students. 00:13:38
But that is happening. The law enforcement training Academy program, Lake Canard has been working on that for the last couple 00:13:44
years. 00:13:47
We're trying to find. 00:13:50
They have a name, a Sergeant. 00:13:53
And. 00:13:56
Lego and RTO resource training officer or something another another member. So they're looking for two individuals that will be 00:13:58
able to assist with that before they can submit that application to AZ post. But that we're working on that one of the another 00:14:04
program. 00:14:10
Asia with Civet and Superintendent O'Neill. 00:14:17
Have launched a mental and social health technician certificate. 00:14:21
We are still working on cosmetology. We had a big push. Mary mentioned that we had a big push with access market, access marketing 00:14:25
for. 00:14:30
Cosmetology and fire science. 00:14:36
We are still hoping to get a fire science program in Payson. 00:14:38
We, we have numbers, we have preliminary numbers from the high school, but no students have submitted applications saying yes, 00:14:43
they want to do this program. And so I'm working with Mr. Matt Weber because you guys know we have two, we have two Ctes in the, 00:14:49
in the county we work with. 00:14:54
Mike O'Neill and pivot down in the southern part and with Matt Weber, the Superintendent of the NAVIT program in the northern 00:15:01
part. And so we're still working on. 00:15:05
To see if we're going to have a fire science program or not. 00:15:10
We do believe we will have cosmetology in both areas though as of right now. 00:15:13
So, Laurie? 00:15:21
Budget and there's your local. 00:15:23
Thank you. 00:15:25
Neighbors of the board. 00:15:27
Mr. Medlock, thank you so much for having us and I'm excited to be able to come back. I, I had the pleasure of visiting with you 00:15:30
about a year ago. 00:15:34
And I'm now back to say that one of the. 00:15:39
The really fulfilling things that I've been able to do in the last six months or so is to begin developing the first. 00:15:43
Hilah Community College. 00:15:52
Budget. 00:15:54
Driven solely by Gila Community College. 00:15:55
Individuals and information. 00:15:59
And. 00:16:02
Really built. 00:16:04
For us, rather than something that has been given to us from another institution, so we have been working for the. 00:16:05
Past many months on developing the first. 00:16:14
Draft budget for 2526 fiscal year. 00:16:17
You can see some very, very broad numbers up there. 00:16:22
Estimating in revenue. 00:16:26
From the various sources that that we are able to call upon. 00:16:29
And then estimating the expenses using. 00:16:34
Whatever information I could find from EA. 00:16:38
See supplied numbers and things. 00:16:43
For what our various instructional departments have already been doing the last few years. 00:16:46
Where our personnel and I believe we mentioned last year that. 00:16:53
We fully anticipate bringing everyone of those. 00:16:58
Employees that are currently employed by EAC but have been serving Gila County for 20 years. 00:17:02
We will be bringing them over to Gila Community College and so. 00:17:10
Looking back on personnel records and things and developing our benefits program. 00:17:17
All those actions. 00:17:24
Were in an effort to develop. 00:17:26
And budget specific to Gila Community College and you can see them that we're estimating revenue just under 8 million. 00:17:29
And our expenses as I say, you know looking back at the trends and information from EAC for the last few years. 00:17:40
Expenses are estimated to be. 00:17:49
Just actually about $3000 under that. 00:17:51
And I will note that this is a. 00:17:55
A decrease in expenses from the last. 00:17:59
EAC supply budget for this current fiscal year that we're in which was about 8,000,010 in expenses and we've been able to bring it 00:18:03
down to just under 8 million. And if you, if you were to look at the whoops. 00:18:11
Give it to the next one. 00:18:19
Look at the second page in your board packet. Again, it's a little small if you pop it up there on the screen. 00:18:22
But those are then some aggregate numbers showing where we got the very brief summary numbers at the beginning. 00:18:30
Again, revenue just under 8 million. 00:18:38
We've been able to strategically. 00:18:41
Forecast and develop the expense budget to very much fit within. 00:18:45
Our estimated revenues coming in for 2526. 00:18:51
And we are set to go. July 1st is just around the corner and it is exciting to know that we are absolutely ready to go. 00:18:56
And this budget will also guide us. 00:19:08
With the board, you could just get better from here. Are there any questions that I can support you at this time? Are you gonna 00:19:11
wait till the end? When? 00:19:15
We do all the questions, why don't we wait till the end? 00:19:19
Thank you very much if there's something really pressing. 00:19:22
Hey, exactly. 00:19:25
Thank you very much. 00:19:29
So, yeah, good morning, Mr. Chairman, board members. 00:19:36
I'll be kind of. 00:19:40
Summarizing everything, not only some of the accomplishments but also the challenges that we face over the next, especially the 00:19:43
next two years. 00:19:48
So let me make. 00:19:53
Which button is it? 00:19:55
Tada, I did it first time. 00:19:58
Well, that's right, yeah. 00:20:01
I learned from you. 00:20:02
So the good news is that we did go over our annual audit report from the Auditor General's office. 00:20:05
They reviewed that with us at our April board meeting. 00:20:14
And again, receiving an unmodified opinion, as you probably know, is is good. 00:20:18
There that the financial information was reliable. 00:20:25
That the district auditors did not see any deficiencies or non compliances. 00:20:29
We thank our CPA Sarah Kirk, who I know you all know also works with the county. 00:20:36
Our financial coordinator, she worked very closely with our EAC financial coordinator trade. 00:20:42
Coordinator Trey Morris. 00:20:48
And really did a thorough job of ensuring that our books were. 00:20:50
Plane, so to speak, and that the attic came out well. 00:20:55
This again is very difficult to read. I apologize for everybody trying to read it from. 00:21:05
The seats, but you have a copy in front of you. 00:21:10
And basically this is just a little bit more detail it goes through. 00:21:13
From 2015, how our revenues have increased, how our expenses have been increased? 00:21:18
The sources have changed a little bit on the state. 00:21:24
Has gone up significantly from point 6 million to 1.4 million. 00:21:29
Grants and contracts. 00:21:34
Just to clarify, that is typically. 00:21:36
For example, the prison program, I believe in some of those other contracts that also contribute to the revenues. 00:21:40
And down further, you'll see that we have the district net position has increased. 00:21:48
We have about .5 million that will be carried over and that's pretty. 00:21:55
Typical. That's about the amount. 00:22:00
That we have been able to carry over in banks, so to speak, above our expenditures. 00:22:02
Little clarification on that of course. 00:22:11
Is that our revenues and our expenditures? 00:22:14
We have been very balanced in that, but as many of you know. 00:22:19
We also have the expenditure limit that the state set back in, I think it was 79 and 80. 00:22:23
Which is a formula based on our. 00:22:30
Enrollments, what's called FTSE full time student equivalent enrollments. 00:22:35
That the state sets our expenditure limit based on the number of enrollments we have. 00:22:41
Even though our revenues far exceed that amount. 00:22:47
So this. 00:22:51
Year, this is preliminary, but I think we're very close if we haven't finalized it, I think at the time that I sent Thea. 00:22:53
Presentation, it was still preliminary, but it shows that we are about 1.9 million over the expenditure limit. 00:23:00
OK. And that's, you know, taking into account the amount, there are certain funds that do not fall under that expenditure limit, 00:23:08
including the IGA, the monies that you provide from the county. 00:23:14
So we are still dealing with that. 00:23:21
But obviously it's very important for us to. 00:23:25
Address that situation. 00:23:30
The main reason for the decrease in Footsie. 00:23:34
Was. 00:23:37
Primarily, COVID certainly played a big part in that. 00:23:38
And then also with the EAC making the determination that all online courses would originate from the Thatcher campus. 00:23:42
And according to the contract we have, I don't want to call it the loophole that it was an interpretation. 00:23:51
About the origin, of course. And so that really hurt us significantly. 00:23:57
Just to give you an idea in 2000. 00:24:02
Actual 2019 before COVID. 00:24:07
We were averaging just under 700, OK, for the expenditure limit, it was actually there's a little different formula and how they 00:24:10
calculate that. It was right around 750. 00:24:16
This year in 23 and 24, we're barely staying over 450. 00:24:23
Which would be the the minimum required by the state to be recognized. 00:24:28
So it's been a challenge then, of course. 00:24:33
Not only receiving monies from the state for operating expenses, but also dealing with the expenditure limit. 00:24:38
And the decision that was made this year by the board is we have the option of either. 00:24:46
Supplementing. 00:24:52
Our budget with. 00:24:54
The. 00:24:56
Excludable dollars, which didn't really make sense because, again, we weren't. 00:24:58
You're going to go. Oh, OK, thank you. 00:25:04
Yeah, I forgot that that's actually outlined here. 00:25:06
We have a choice of either reducing that fund balance that we have. 00:25:11
By almost 45% to show that we have the money, even though we paid all of our bills, we were not rent, you know, operating in red. 00:25:17
Or we pay. 00:25:25
Roughly 1/3 of the state operating funding that they give us, which right now we don't receive. I guess the sort of mixed blessing 00:25:27
is we only receive about 150,000 from the state for operating expenses. 00:25:34
Saw the penalty is estimated at 50,000 that will not actually. 00:25:41
Go into effect or the penalty won't be assessed until 2000. 00:25:46
26 So we're, you know, still trying to be very fiscally responsible in dealing with this. 00:25:51
And that will continue probably that's one of our main challenges over the next couple of years, so. 00:26:01
To kind of talk about those next two years again, we're very excited. The infrastructure should be ready to go. 00:26:08
By July 1, contract ends with the AC June 30th. 00:26:15
We will open our doors as. 00:26:19
We've been around for almost 25 years but will officially be he looked Community College independent. 00:26:22
Community College. 00:26:30
And along with that, of course, oh let me just a note about the admissions and registration. 00:26:31
We are getting its students admitted. We should start that process. Many students, hundreds of students now have. 00:26:38
Actually applied for ignition. You know, it's a little confusing to students to say, well, I've been taking classes for years. 00:26:45
So we need to get you into the GCC system. They're in there. We will then go through the next step of admissions and then we 00:26:52
should be ready to start registering them for courses. 00:26:57
By, we hope, mid-May. 00:27:03
They're chomping at the bit. They want to make sure they get in that ceramics class or that English section, so we'll be ready to 00:27:06
go. 00:27:09
Also, of course, payroll and HR, as Lori mentioned beforehand, trying to make sure that we get all of the employees transitioned 00:27:14
over to the system. 00:27:20
Faculty have different contracts than staff, so we're working on all that as well, and of course the budget. 00:27:26
And said we have a head start on that since we have been looking. 00:27:34
On that for several months. 00:27:39
So, um. 00:27:41
We need to increase enrollments. That is probably our top priority. We expect to do that. We will have expanded course offerings. 00:27:44
We will be back to the two year programs. As mentioned before, we will be starting the nursing programs at both campuses in the 00:27:52
fall. 00:27:56
We will also be able to start the cosmetology program again on both campuses. 00:28:01
We were a little concerned about Payson. We kind of reformatted. 00:28:07
That program so that it fits students schedules a little bit better. 00:28:12
And so we should have a start on that other two year program, all of the other certificate programs that will continue and then a 00:28:18
big one of reestablishing our online courses. 00:28:24
Again, we are focused on making sure that we get to a fully sustainable budget. Dealing with that expenditure limit is part of 00:28:30
that and one of the ways that. 00:28:35
We can also deal with the expenditure limits. I don't know if you're aware of it, Two of the other Community College districts in 00:28:41
the state, Maricopa and Graham County EAC. 00:28:46
What had a ballot measure in 2024, the EHC 1 was prop. 00:28:51
402 I'm not sure if that would be consistent. 00:28:58
But basically. 00:29:01
It was to raise the expenditure limit and what Graham County did was. 00:29:03
Add to the formula that the state uses a multiplier that would take in inflationary factor, which has never been there. 00:29:08
So if it basically double S. 00:29:17
The uh, uh. 00:29:20
The level on the expenditure limit. 00:29:21
OK. So it doesn't do away with the expenditure limit, but it certainly raises it to a much more reasonable. 00:29:24
Amount and I believe that passed in both counties. 00:29:31
Unless it is from that person. Maricopa is so much bigger. The Grant County passed. 00:29:36
4:00 to 1:00. 00:29:41
OK, so almost 80% of voters agreed. 00:29:42
Not as it's not new taxes, it's just that we are able to spend the money that we have. 00:29:46
So we plan on doing that in 2026. We know that it will take. 00:29:52
Public education and awareness, just like the. 00:29:57
Override did for the public schools, so we're prepared to do that. 00:30:01
So that's kind of what we have planned. Before we conclude, I just want to say. 00:30:06
A huge thank you. 00:30:13
To all of you, to the county, we would not be where we are. 00:30:14
Without the IGA that you have funded for us for three years? 00:30:20
Having that money to be able to hire an interim president who is now officially. 00:30:24
The college president, Janice Doctor Janice Lawhorn. 00:30:29
Also our consultants such as Laurie Avila, Mary Springer and of course. 00:30:34
Shawn Wakefield, Who is our IT? 00:30:40
Person the upfront expenses of developing the IT systems. 00:30:43
All of that, it has been tremendously, tremendously helpful. We would not be where we are without that. 00:30:48
I also before closing want to thank. 00:30:56
Our other board members, the GCC board members who are here, our vice president, Mickey and I. 00:31:00
Our secretary, Connie Cockerel. 00:31:06
And our treasurer, Fernando Shipley Finberg, Hurt Canaus was not able to be here today. We also have senior Dean. 00:31:09
Phil McBride here, hopefully. Oh, and Mcknight's, who is the campus. 00:31:17
Associate Director. 00:31:22
For now for the Payson campus, if I missed anybody associated, but we've all worked together as a team. 00:31:24
And again, we wouldn't be where we are without that sense of teamwork and. 00:31:30
And dedication. 00:31:35
So we have, I believe the IGA was written to be a five year agreement. We have two years left. 00:31:36
On the IGA. 00:31:44
We are most appreciative of that support. 00:31:47
However. 00:31:51
I will say I believe that in some of the conversations there's been a if there's anything else we can do. 00:31:52
Kind of statement, if there's anything else that we would ask would just be. 00:31:59
Any additional financial assistance would certainly help us through this two years while we get the enrollments back up. 00:32:06
And get the budget all in place. We don't expect it. 00:32:14
I'm just saying that we would greatly appreciate it and we certainly appreciate what you have. 00:32:18
Offered us for these last three years and hopefully the next two years. 00:32:24
So I believe that's it. 00:32:29
Questions, comments, anything that needs to be added? 00:32:34
Thank you. 00:32:38
Thank you, Doctor Brucker. 00:32:39
And the other presenters. So umm, let's talk some. 00:32:41
President Humphrey. 00:32:45
Umm, yeah, questions. There's, there's probably 1,000,000 questions that. 00:32:47
Time will take care of. 00:32:51
Apparently. 00:32:53
Over the over the course of time when we go forward because it's answered a lot of questions for from where we started. 00:32:54
To where we are now because. 00:33:01
It was pretty neat and muddy there for a while. 00:33:04
And so. 00:33:07
Just answered a lot of questions and I feel that way. 00:33:09
With going forward as it is now that the time will. 00:33:12
Will answer a lot of questions. 00:33:16
That I might have or as well as the public and I think it's great that you'd be able to. 00:33:18
Start having. 00:33:24
People. Umm. 00:33:26
At the college and so. 00:33:27
Today, I just thank you very much for the appreciation for the presentation today, I think it was. 00:33:28
Prepared well and it's great to hear the news of. 00:33:34
Of how you're going forward. 00:33:37
And and I appreciate all of your persistence because like I said. 00:33:40
It hasn't been an easy Rd. It's been a rough road and. 00:33:44
And have taken a lot of slack. And if you read the newspaper impatient, you still. 00:33:48
Get some rocks thrown every once in a while so. 00:33:53
I appreciate your persistence and. 00:33:56
And continuing to work too. 00:33:59
To do this, and I think it'll be better for Hula County as we go forward. 00:34:01
And I. 00:34:06
I wish you. 00:34:08
All the luck in the world, but with your persistence I don't see any issues but. 00:34:09
I wish you all the luck in the world. 00:34:15
Getting your ducks in a row and keeping them in a row because. 00:34:17
Sometimes they waddle where they want to so. 00:34:21
I appreciate you. 00:34:25
Your persistence in working and thanks for the presentation today. 00:34:27
Thank you. 00:34:31
Supervisor Humphrey, appreciate it. 00:34:33
Supervisor client. 00:34:35
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you so much for hanging in there. That was quite a rough Rd. 00:34:37
The college is very, very important to heal the county. 00:34:43
I can't even begin to tell you the amount of emails I received. All you guys were working all the way through this and. 00:34:47
In wanting it to get ironed out and get back on track and I know that the constituents in heated county. 00:34:54
Benefit greatly by it. 00:35:01
The one question I guess I would have for you on the Footsie part of it, do you think it'll take the two years to get your numbers 00:35:04
up? Are you thinking the first year you'll see that jump? 00:35:08
Well, we certainly hope that we'll see a huge increase again. We've, you know, we're trying to be optimistic and realistic at the 00:35:14
same time. 00:35:19
But all indications we were very steady with being between, I would say. 00:35:24
700 to 750. 00:35:30
Until like I said, COVID and the other chain of events, so. 00:35:33
I think we've had numerous discussions about expanding the current programs, adding new programs, what's nice and I think the 00:35:38
benefit to all. 00:35:43
Residents of Gila County. 00:35:47
Is that we have. 00:35:49
The oversight now for post secondary education in HeLa County and we're not beholden. 00:35:51
To someone else making those decisions for it. So I am extremely optimistic. 00:35:58
I'm absolutely sure we'll see an increase, but. 00:36:04
Trying to be realistic of getting to where we were. 00:36:09
Because that was a pretty heavy hit that we took. 00:36:12
If I could just add to that. 00:36:15
Umm, so I try to get numbers going OK, how many how many ***** did we did we lose with the online program and I I couldn't get 00:36:17
clear numbers, but. 00:36:23
In some additional conversations and in additional research, it appears that we had. 00:36:29
Over 500 students in Gila County taking online courses. 00:36:35
Through through EAC in which and if each one of those took a three credit class, you know that's 1500 student credit hours. 00:36:42
Divided by 30, that's 50 FT right there. So I'm very optimistic that we've got some excellent faculty. Again, we have not lost any 00:36:51
faculty. 00:36:55
We anticipate bringing over all of the faculty there will be in the process during the summer of building their online courses. 00:37:00
And then again, we know we'll have some offerings. The first what we'll call Summer 2. 00:37:06
But it'll be classes during the summer session of July. 00:37:13
So I anticipate. 00:37:17
I anticipate growing up Footsie over the next year for sure. Just just with online courses, not counting, you know, where we'll 00:37:19
bring in some additional enrollment with the nursing program, beefing up some other certificates. And if we can get a law 00:37:24
enforcement training Academy program going, you know, and then, then we can start listening to our community and figuring out what 00:37:29
it is. 00:37:34
They would like us to see, you know, to see at the at the colleges both in the northern southern part of the county. 00:37:39
Well, thank you so much for everything you're doing. I'm sure it's gonna workout fine so. 00:37:46
We really appreciate it. 00:37:51
I will tell you it's been a rough year. It's been a very well, it's actually been a rough two years. Let's go with that, OK? It's 00:37:53
been a very rough two years, but. 00:37:57
Very rewarding to have come this far and to be part of something like this is awesome. It's a once in a lifetime kind of thing. 00:38:01
Thank you. 00:38:10
Thank you. Any questions, doctors? Yeah, I do want to say something and then yeah, you we can keep talking. So. 00:38:13
Thanks for the presentation, very good and it has been rough and I was. 00:38:20
I guess you'd say I was critical of the process that was. 00:38:25
Out there, not of personalities and. 00:38:30
I was worried that you wouldn't be able to accomplish what you've done, and I am so pleasantly surprised that you have. 00:38:35
You really have done a great. 00:38:42
Just astonishing. 00:38:45
What you've been able to do in the last year? 00:38:46
Because I thought what? 00:38:49
It would take 2-3 years to get where we are today. 00:38:50
And so I congratulate you for that. 00:38:53
Umm, you made some changes that needed to be made and when another way and it's working. 00:38:56
And I'm really excited because we all believe in having. 00:39:03
A college here in Gila County. 00:39:06
Supervisor Christensen, if I could just say that that ACC JC indicated no one has ever done what we have done. 00:39:09
And when you put the jams on it, OK, you know, we're on it. And we work until 11:00 at night. We're working weekends, we're 00:39:17
working holidays. 00:39:22
We were working for the residents of Hewlett County. 00:39:26
And that's that was our goal. 00:39:29
What was to get to where we are today? So very pleased. Thank you. Yeah, you've done really great and I'm so excited that. 00:39:31
That I can be here and a part of something that's been over 20 year process. 00:39:38
To get to and here it is right now. 00:39:44
Literally a month away from being fully. 00:39:47
Going and. 00:39:49
The dual enrollment at the high school that's going to continue are those called footsies. 00:39:52
Yes, dual enrollment actually is 50% because it's considered, you know, the high school get funding for those students and then 00:39:56
the college gets funding for that. So you get half, but see for dual enrollment. 00:40:03
But yes, we're working. We're working. In fact, I was. 00:40:09
Proofreading an avid and CIVET agreement yesterday so that we're getting ready to to set up those agreements with our CTET and 00:40:13
then the next process we've already sent. 00:40:17
I know our our campuses are working on their dual enrollments agreements with the high schools right now. And just to give you an 00:40:22
idea, I'm not sure about the. 00:40:27
He looked Pueblo, the Globe campus. 00:40:33
The pacing campus on dual enrollment saw an increase from 100. 00:40:35
I think it was headcount or credits. 00:40:41
And hundred students to 140 this past fall. So the high school has been instrumental. 00:40:44
In increasing those enrollments as well. So we're working. 00:40:52
You know. 00:40:58
The largest population I think we have are the. 00:41:00
The population 20 and younger. 00:41:03
The second largest is our 55 and over. 00:41:06
So we're also trying to increase the enrichment offerings that are so important to so many of our retirees and local residents. So 00:41:09
we have. 00:41:15
A plan and it's mainly just to keep investing in our communities. 00:41:21
And hearing what the residents need and want. 00:41:25
That's our, that's our plan. 00:41:29
It's really going great. I'm excited to hear about the. 00:41:31
Future offerings. 00:41:34
As they start coming because this is just the birth. 00:41:35
Something and it's going to start growing and doing. 00:41:38
Much better. 00:41:41
And the high school students. 00:41:42
Can really honestly if they work at it. 00:41:43
Can graduate with a high school diploma and on the same day have. 00:41:47
So that they'd actually graduate with an associate's degree. 00:41:52
Thinner than they graduate from high school. That is a possibility, yes. And that's a tremendous leap forward in all of that so. 00:41:55
And I hope we get this expenditure limit thing figured out. Is that something the Legislature? 00:42:04
Could do. We're working with our lobbyists. 00:42:08
On a number of different fronts. Now that we should be fully recognized by the state and no longer, as you can tell, we're no 00:42:12
longer a provisional college. 00:42:16
So I think there'll be some opportunities on the expenditure limit on possible additional funding from the state. 00:42:21
All of that's kind of in question right now, but. 00:42:28
Yes, we're working very closely with James Cameron Lawrence. 00:42:31
OK. I'm going to ask our management if you could clarify. 00:42:35
The IGA that we have with you guys because it was mentioned. 00:42:39
That it was a five year. 00:42:43
Process and, but those are generally very specifically written for purpose. 00:42:45
Could you clarify? 00:42:51
Where we are with that, Mr. Chairman, members of board, thank you for the opportunity. 00:42:53
First of all, I want to congratulate both of you. I know that we started talking about this four or five years ago. 00:42:58
That you came and we had discussions with the county. 00:43:05
Of wanting to go in this path. 00:43:08
Congratulations, that is. 00:43:11
Tremendous undertaking and you. 00:43:13
You've taken, I've been. I went to the meeting where you were up on a stage being criticized heavily. 00:43:16
For the detrimental things you're doing to the kids of Gila County. 00:43:22
Well, let me just clarify. We understand, you know, there was a lot of uncertainty and so we really totally understand where that 00:43:28
came from. Absolutely. 00:43:33
Thank you for sticking to it and thank you for getting us to this point. 00:43:38
Tremendous. I want to express appreciation also to the Board, members of the board. 00:43:43
That it's under the direction of our boards. 00:43:48
That we can accomplish things. So Doctor Rocker and the rest of the world. 00:43:51
Thank you for that. 00:43:55
I'd also like to acknowledge. 00:43:57
Representative Cook. 00:43:59
He introduced legislation that. 00:44:02
Really made this possible that he did some adjustments in state law. 00:44:05
Some that still need to be made. 00:44:09
But they made it possible to do that so. 00:44:12
Thank you, Representative Cook. 00:44:15
Enabling Gila County to become. 00:44:18
Our own Community College history. 00:44:20
Going to the financial end of that agreement, when we first talked, we were talking about 5 to 10 years minimum. 00:44:23
To be able to get to this point and be accredited. So that's why the IGA was for five years. 00:44:30
To make sure that we had enough sufficient time to be able to get to this point. 00:44:35
I haven't haven't talked to the board and so this is just me speaking about how I approach. 00:44:41
Financial and working with other governmental use because Utah Community College is a separate. 00:44:47
Legal entity. Separate governmental entity. 00:44:52
And I am very much opposed to. 00:44:54
That one government should. 00:45:01
Support another governmental entity in maintenance and operating expenses. 00:45:03
And I think we've had the discussion that we do it for one time project. 00:45:07
And that's how we looked at this, that we would support this financially. 00:45:11
As a one time project, we're going to take multiple years to get there. 00:45:15
But we were it was a one time project and so. 00:45:19
I believe in my mind right now that we are. 00:45:23
We have fulfilled the. 00:45:27
Obligation or the purpose? 00:45:29
That we entered into the IGA. 00:45:31
And he said we have a five year, we'd like to look for it. 00:45:33
But what I talked to our finance Director and have included in. 00:45:37
The county's budget for fiscal year 26. 00:45:42
Is the $250,000? 00:45:45
That is a potential support. 00:45:47
To college, so the money is included will be based on approval by the Board of Supervisors. 00:45:50
Included as a potential that we can partner with the community. 00:45:56
What I would ask is. 00:46:00
What are the? 00:46:03
Dollars going to be spent specifically for. 00:46:05
And come back to the county of. 00:46:07
What it means for us to partner with the college? 00:46:12
Well, let me clarify a couple of things, and I'm sure Doctor Laham will want to add that. 00:46:15
We are, uh. 00:46:21
The nomenclature, the lingo that's used around accreditation is somewhat confusing. 00:46:23
Having candidacy status there is no such thing as being partially accredited. 00:46:30
We are. We are able to accredit our own courses however. 00:46:36
We have not finished the accreditation process. 00:46:41
And the final sort of designation is the initial accreditation. 00:46:44
So we have two more years to get to that level. So the project. 00:46:50
That has been funded, continues. 00:46:55
OK. Up until we have that initial accreditation, we hope it's less than two years. 00:46:57
But we have that time period. 00:47:02
The way I've explained it to people is candidacy. Anybody that follows baseball, we were. 00:47:05
In the majors, OK, now we've got to prove. 00:47:11
Are worth and then the initial accreditation means we're a starting lineup and we get. 00:47:15
On the cycle, so it's just moving a little further down the road. We are accredited. 00:47:21
But we have to build the track record and then we will start the typical a re accreditation 8 year cycle. 00:47:28
So I do want to clarify that we have accomplished. 00:47:36
Of an extremely important milestone, but the next two years is going to be focused on. 00:47:41
On some of the upfront expenses associated with the infrastructure as well as personnel. 00:47:47
We still need some. 00:47:53
Of the expertise, the consultants that have been working with us to make sure we get things in place. 00:47:56
We also have to work on the national accreditation for the nursing program. That's called a SIN. 00:48:04
So there's still a lot of building to do in the next two years. 00:48:09
I love the way Dr. Lawholm describes it. 00:48:14
Yes, we're going to be the newest Community College. 00:48:17
In the state of Arizona. 00:48:21
But we've been around for like 25 years. So there's a lot of sort of dichotomies in how we're operating. So that's to answer your 00:48:23
question hopefully and we can certainly provide in the detail. 00:48:29
Mr. Chairman. 00:48:35
You've done something that has never been done. 00:48:37
I don't know if it's in the country. They've done something that's never been done, at least in Arizona. I think they set these 00:48:39
provisional community colleges up. 00:48:43
And a path to get there, but I don't know that anybody ever expected. 00:48:47
This to be done. 00:48:51
Never been done so. 00:48:52
That I suppose if there would have been a path. 00:48:55
This would have been a whole lot easier. 00:48:58
Problem was there really was number path. 00:49:00
And Arizona set these up. 00:49:02
They they gave a. 00:49:04
A5 member elected volunteer board. 00:49:06
The the goal of creating a Community College. 00:49:10
It was never going to happen. It was expected to happen, but never going to happen. The other thing I'd like to add is that in 00:49:15
conversation with the other provisional district in the state. 00:49:21
They are excited by the fact that we did this and now they think they want to go down the same path. So we're blazing the trail 00:49:27
for others for sure. And I said that's exciting as well. 00:49:33
Mr. Chairman, if I could, in closing out, at least as far as I'm concerned, comment about. 00:49:39
The partnership. Financial partnership. 00:49:45
This past audit year, we had two, We had an audit finding for two entities that we had. There were other governmental, 00:49:48
governmental. 00:49:52
Entities that we. 00:49:56
The Auditor General rolled us up because we didn't have a. 00:49:58
I guess in their minds, sufficient report. 00:50:03
Of how the money was spent. 00:50:07
And so this is just a part of the way we are being required to do business. We have to have a report. 00:50:09
Of where the money has been spent. 00:50:15
To ensure that it meant met the requirements. 00:50:18
And everything that was specified in the IGA. 00:50:22
And so in asking this to come back to the board, some guys at a future time, the money will be in the budget. 00:50:25
Come to them saying this, you're going forward with what you've described here today. 00:50:32
And then to request the dollars saying this is what we're going to accomplish. 00:50:37
Then at the end of the year we'll have to have a report. 00:50:42
Which essentially is you're actually doing there today with your financial reports and things. 00:50:44
Getting to the county finance department as well. 00:50:49
Well, and Mary Springer alluded to a lot of the things that we spent your money on. OK, we needed, we need a library, we need a 00:50:52
learning management system, we need a student information system. 00:50:58
We need accounting system, Yeah, we've building our infrastructure and then of course personnel costs. But yes, that's what we've 00:51:04
been doing with your funds. And that's all in a formal report that we submit to the Auditor General. 00:51:10
Operating budget now and it's of course under restricted funds. 00:51:19
But just the salary for the interim president and consultants exceeds that 250,000, so we can. 00:51:25
Show that we have used the money wisely, but the amount. 00:51:34
Of expenditures. 00:51:40
For I would just call it startup costs thought. 00:51:41
Startup expenses. 00:51:44
Far exceeds that to 250, so we can work with you to make sure that it's that you are accountable. 00:51:46
As well as us being accountable. 00:51:52
Thank you, Mr. Menla. Any more questions, Supervisor? 00:51:56
No, I don't have any questions. It's just the whole time I've been a supervisor, we've funded the college and that. 00:52:00
250,000 has been there. 00:52:06
It's just prior to that and when I first became a supervisor. 00:52:08
We were seven years behind in our audit, so we didn't. 00:52:12
Demand where you spend your money because we weren't keeping the count. 00:52:16
Well, the county wasn't. 00:52:20
And so now I don't see any reason for that money to not be there. I think it is a benefit to the public. 00:52:22
And like I say, you know, everybody has to be accountable for where it's spent. But. 00:52:29
In my 2 cents worth, it's it's. I don't see any reason why. 00:52:34
It couldn't continue because it's definitely a benefit to the public and a benefit to the county because. 00:52:40
The money is not going to. 00:52:46
Another county it's getting within. 00:52:47
Hayley County, which is extremely important. 00:52:50
Mr. Chair, that's all I have take. Great. 00:52:53
I'm good, thank you. Yeah, so I think. 00:52:55
We just have to make sure that all of our. 00:52:59
Agreements are meeting what? 00:53:02
The agreement was for. 00:53:05
And you bring up. 00:53:07
A pretty solid point in that you're really not accredited yet and that was the purpose of the money. 00:53:08
To achieve accreditation you've achieved. 00:53:14
Candidacy. 00:53:18
And a preliminary. 00:53:20
Kind of accreditation that you're not quite there yet, so. 00:53:21
We can have those discussions and yes, Sir. 00:53:24
Mr. Chairman, one thing I I do add in Doctor Lawrence, I know we've talked about this years ago when I first came to UNIT County. 00:53:28
Of potentially increasing the Footsie itself by offering. 00:53:36
We look for training at the county level and and some of the things that we are looking for, I've got a list of them. 00:53:41
Here of different areas, maybe a leadership Academy, different things that. 00:53:47
We could partner with the college. I know when EAC was running things that we kind of had to fit what EAC specified. 00:53:51
For their own college, I hope that we can. 00:53:59
Tater to. 00:54:01
Needs of individual entities. I was speaking last week as at a conference for economic development. 00:54:04
Speaking to business businesses in. 00:54:11
Gila County. 00:54:13
Resolution, Freeport, McMahon and those people. 00:54:15
The needs that they have for training and perhaps we can. 00:54:18
Boost our FTF or FTC. 00:54:22
By working with you to customize training for our employees. 00:54:25
That would be a great opportunity. 00:54:30
That was one of the first conversations that you and I have, I believe just about a little over 4 years ago. 00:54:32
I was very excited about that opportunity. 00:54:38
I think it's a wonderful type of synergy where it's a win, win where we're investing in each other. 00:54:42
And we certainly, as you said, now we can finally. 00:54:49
Make it a reality in my mind absolutely well, having having local control and having you know, your commit our committee meetings, 00:54:53
you know, meeting at the patient campus or at the globe campus that are making those decisions on. 00:55:00
You know, we'll have curriculum, Committee says OK, the county wants to do this. Hey, how's this gonna work? What's this gonna 00:55:06
look like? 00:55:09
All right, let's put an idea together. Let's let's make this work. And those local decisions are going to make us. 00:55:12
Move forward going to help us, you know, get that boost to move forward for sure. So yes, we're excited about that. 00:55:19
And just one other point of clarification because I know it's the media is is anywhere near. 00:55:25
We are an accredited Community College. 00:55:31
We are able to accredit all of our courses. 00:55:36
They will be transferable to not only we're working on articulation agreements or. 00:55:40
Agreements with the three major state universities. 00:55:45
But students will be able to transfer their coursework to any college or university in the country, again with, you know, if they 00:55:49
meet those. 00:55:53
Requirements for degrees and that kind of thing. 00:55:58
But it's just. 00:56:01
The candidacy status kind of throws people, but I just want to ensure people that. 00:56:03
While we haven't completed the entire accreditation process. 00:56:09
We are at the point where, you know, we could use a word like preliminary. 00:56:13
But we are definitely accredited. You can't be partially accredited. 00:56:18
And you can't even be fully fully accredited or kind of accredited. There's none of that terminology. You don't use that 00:56:24
terminology. You either are. 00:56:29
Or you aren't. 00:56:33
We are in again candidacy status, which allows us, like Doctor Broker said, to offer our own programs and certificates as well as 00:56:34
degrees and. 00:56:39
Have a graduation ceremony. Do everything that other community colleges in the state of Arizona do. 00:56:45
But we still have a couple hoops to jump through. 00:56:50
Yeah, OK, very good. Just come on. One last thing, OK. 00:56:53
And then I'll zip. 00:56:59
If there's anything that we can do through our. 00:57:02
Public Information Office or Ultravac and Carol Broder. 00:57:04
Anything to help tell the story, to get the news out there like we talked about the online students. 00:57:08
How do we how do you go about getting them back into the fold? 00:57:13
And that kind of thing. So if there's anything that we can do to help you tell the story. 00:57:17
Great, great story. Please let us know and we. 00:57:22
Hearing from the board that we. 00:57:27
Be glad to do that. Thank you. And one additional thing I'd like to mention, I didn't bring up our website, but we hope to launch 00:57:30
our new website by the end of the week. 00:57:35
We are going from. 00:57:40
When we were Gila County Community College District. 00:57:42
We are Gila Community College. We're going to GCC, so right now our website isplsccc.org, we're going to heal scc.org, I said. And 00:57:46
brand new websites. It's awesome. 00:57:53
Should be by the end of the week we hope, and we'll put it out on social media. We've been sharing things with the county as well. 00:58:00
Been working with Paul. 00:58:04
Getting things out there, but we have hired razor thin to do our marketing and we're sending everything through them. 00:58:08
So yes, we appreciate that support and if. 00:58:14
Others in the community want to know how to support the college. 00:58:18
Take classes, come and enroll and take classes and help us with those enrollments. So and again financial support. 00:58:21
Certainly you know all of the types of support that we've had throughout, we are greatly appreciative. 00:58:30
Thank you very much. Oh, look at that. It's 11:00. There's our hour. 00:58:37
Thank you. Yeah. Thanks so much and thank all of you. 00:58:43
Being here that they're part of this. And so thank you very good. 00:58:47
Exciting day. 00:58:51
Very exciting. Yes, Thank you. Thank you. 00:58:53
And so with that, let's keep moving to item 2B. 00:58:55
Information discussion regarding Power Companies 2025 wildfire mitigation efforts included an update on the Public Safety power 00:59:01
shutdown program. 00:59:06
Carl's gonna present. 00:59:12
We have two companies here. We have APS and SRP. 00:59:13
And so we have the ability to ask. 00:59:18
Questions to any of them and all of that. 00:59:22
Now let's say to start with Carl we're pretty familiar with. 00:59:24
Program SO. 00:59:28
Absolutely. So I won't go into any of the details that they're going to share or repeat anything over the. 00:59:30
The from the presentation last year. 00:59:36
But there have been updates to the individual power companies. 00:59:38
Specific plans. 00:59:42
So they've been doing a lot of outreach in the communities and talking to the public, talking with each of you specifically. 00:59:44
But I thought it'd be beneficial to bring both companies here to share. 00:59:51
This update and maybe become a trend moving forward that if they are updating their plan each year to maybe bring them forward to. 00:59:55
To you guys so. 01:00:03
I'll have APS come up first and share their updates. 01:00:04
And Chairman, I'll leave it to you and the board. If you want to hold questions to the end, you can ask questions of either of 01:00:07
these companies or myself on our response. 01:00:11
Or you can ask the questions during. 01:00:16
It's entirely up to you, but all that APS go ahead and start and introduce themselves. 01:00:18
Thank you, Carl. 01:00:22
We have Janet Dean. Hello. 01:00:25
CS GO. 01:00:27
Good morning, Chairman. Supervisors, thank you so much for inviting us to come have this conversation with you today. 01:00:30
I'm Janet Dean, public affairs manager for Northern Gila County. I have Northern Gila County in my territory with APS. I'm joined 01:00:37
by Richard Rosales, who has Southern Gila County. He's also public affairs manager, and Brian Gosselin, who is the. 01:00:45
The supervisor here in the globe out of our globe doc. 01:00:55
So because you are so familiar and because we do present so often to you individually and then to community groups that you're at 01:00:59
and then here I'll keep this really high level this and you have in your packet, this is our comprehensive fire mitigation plan. 01:01:06
It's got 5 pillars which you can see there, vegetation management, grid hardening, asset inspection, monitoring and awareness and 01:01:13
then our operational mitigation. 01:01:19
Umm, processes that we have. 01:01:27
I will really quickly, if you'll indulge me, I want to bring your attention to one item under monitoring and awareness because 01:01:30
this is a newer program for us. 01:01:35
See. So we have installed a series of AI. 01:01:41
360° cameras across Northern Arizona. We've got several installations including a few here in Gila County. And what these do is 01:01:46
these give us. 01:01:52
Data and line of sight to fire starts into. 01:01:58
Within Northern Arizona and we've got all of our fire departments, regional dispatch centers, all of them have been approached and 01:02:02
asked if they want to be part of, you know, have access to this and see these. 01:02:09
This is just a quick picture from one of our cameras. It is out of one of the first ones we installed, which was on Mount Elden 01:02:15
and Flagstaff. It shows smoke that it's detected and we're seeing great success with these cameras and I will tell you a story out 01:02:21
of Flagstaff. 01:02:26
And I was just presenting her at a meeting recently and the Coconino. 01:02:32
Forest supervisor was there and said he wanted to test these and so they were doing a controlled burn or a managed burn. 01:02:37
Fire a start and they timed it from the time they ignited the the source to when they got notified from our system and it was less 01:02:46
than 6 minutes. 01:02:51
So if these are working, we're seeing them not just that little test that he did, but we also had a story out of the Prescott area 01:02:57
where there was a fire start to these cameras. Both picked it up. 01:03:03
And so they were able to triangulate and get first responders within yards of the start. 01:03:09
And we've been told that it was probably based on the geography of where the fire started. 01:03:14
Probably an hour and a half to two hours before they would have picked it up any other way. So we're excited by these cameras and 01:03:20
this is kind of a map of all of. 01:03:24
Of the technology we've been putting out over the last few years. And the reason for this technology is. 01:03:28
We need we want to make data-driven decisions and we did not have sources for that data. So we're installing it ourselves. But 01:03:34
we've got the top left is Pano tilt zoom cameras. So these are cameras looking at our lines. 01:03:41
We've got these AI cameras that we're installing across Northern Arizona and then we've got a series of weather stations. 01:03:49
So with that, I'm going to go back to the other change this year, big change to our fire mitigation program is in our public. 01:03:57
Public Safety Power shutoff program last year we were here in front of you talking to you about. 01:04:06
Our first initial 13 lines that we put into this program and through. 01:04:13
Continued risk analysis, fire modeling, we've now grown that to 65 lines across Northern Arizona and there are several more lines 01:04:18
in the in Gila County that are impacted including. 01:04:26
That are just part of pine, Allah, pine and strawberry. 01:04:33
Part of Payson, all of Star Valley. 01:04:37
And then part of Globe and all of Miami, all of Miami. 01:04:40
So we have seen this program grow here. A couple of things to remind you about. These are forecastable events, so we'll know 01:04:46
several days in advance our fire mitigation team and and. 01:04:52
And meteorologists will be monitoring developing weather patterns, so we'll know several days in advance and be able to start 01:04:59
working with car. 01:05:03
And other partners four to five days in advance and also notifying our customers directly four days in advance. 01:05:08
They also are infrequent. When we did our historical look, we saw four times in five years somewhere across Northern Arizona we 01:05:15
might have had to call one of these events. 01:05:20
And we also know through that historical research that on average they'll last about 20 hours. 01:05:25
Again, I know you're very, very familiar with this. We have a lot more we can share, but I'll pause there and let SRP come up and 01:05:31
and. 01:05:36
Any questions for? 01:05:41
OK, umm. 01:05:43
No, I not right now I don't. Mr. Chair, thank you. 01:05:46
Janet, how's the first service looking with you guys on the line mitigation as far as vegetation did, did they get off the ground 01:05:51
with their? 01:05:55
They're gonna help with some of that right away. Issues, yeah. My understanding is we've been working with them, especially in the 01:05:59
area you were concerned about and that. 01:06:03
Don't quote me because I'm not in the weeds here, but I know we've, I think they've even actually had some of their timber sales 01:06:08
and their own thinning pros projects protecting those lines. So I think the partnership is working well. I can give you more 01:06:14
details. That's about as much as I know on it. Yeah, when we were looking at that, you know, you guys have that 20 foot right 01:06:19
away, you know, in that pine. 01:06:25
Type is not much and so. 01:06:31
I was really hoping that that that's going somewhere and I, I haven't had the chance to visit with the Ranger out of Payson to 01:06:35
speak of that, but. 01:06:39
It would be good if they could widen their right ways out. 01:06:44
I don't know if they've officially widened the right away, but I know they're the four services is focusing along that right away 01:06:47
for their some of their mitigation efforts. Good, good. Thank you. 01:06:53
Thank you, Janice. The other thing, just real quickly, because Carl asked me to touch on this, we are doing as much community 01:06:59
outreach as we possibly can. We've been in front of all the city councils. 01:07:05
For the town councils, for the municipalities impacted, we're working with community organizations like Pine Fire, Pine Strawberry 01:07:10
Fuel Reduction and RIM Fire. 01:07:16
Wildfire Awareness, Rim Country Chamber, We've got some community events coming up. We've participated in the Northern and Heila. 01:07:21
Northern and southern Gila County. 01:07:30
Community symposiums that were just done with on wildfire, we're working with the Fire Chiefs Association. So if you I know we've 01:07:32
got folks come into your Tonto Basin community meeting next week is my understanding. So if there's any events in your districts 01:07:39
that you want to see us at, just make sure you let us know. 01:07:45
Thank you, Janet. Now go ahead. Go ahead, Sir. 01:07:52
I was just going to say I appreciate the public outreach and the information and coming to my meeting and stuff. 01:07:56
I guess my question is one of my questions is. 01:08:03
What in the case of this event happening? 01:08:08
And you do shut power off. 01:08:12
What? What are you going to do to help our emergency services? 01:08:14
With our constituents, whom? 01:08:18
OMA they need. 01:08:21
A cooling station or generators or something of that nature because. 01:08:24
A lot of my district, especially out by Roosevelt Town Basin, we have a lot of elderly people and. 01:08:29
Things of that nature and. 01:08:35
Hours off for an extended period of time. 01:08:37
I'm just kind of wondering how what? 01:08:39
What I appreciate everybody knowing it's coming. 01:08:43
But in the event it happens. 01:08:48
What? What are? What are we doing to help? 01:08:52
Our constituents. 01:08:55
The early notification and I appreciate you appreciating that we're doing that. That is that's key because we're we are sharing 01:08:59
the same I think personal preparedness message that Gila County Emergency Management shares and we're trying to make sure that 01:09:05
right now we're focused on getting all of making sure. 01:09:11
The contact information in a customer's account is up to date, so we can. 01:09:18
First step is talk to them and help them with preparation. We'll also be working with county Emergency Management on notification 01:09:23
when we know one of these events might happen. We're also working closely with Carl and his team to work through the Red Cross and 01:09:30
identify locations, see if their support needed. 01:09:37
We are asking. 01:09:45
County Emergency Management to apply for a grant through APS so that we can help with some funding for his department. 01:09:47
So that he can expand his outreach will be doing ice. 01:09:54
ICE reimbursement, ICE distribution, if it makes sense when there's an event called. 01:09:59
So. 01:10:05
We're gonna do everything we can to support car. 01:10:07
And the Red Cross, because that's really where. 01:10:09
That community support lies as far instead of us doing it directly ourselves, but we're going to be there to support in every way 01:10:12
we possibly can. And Carl might have more to add, and I don't know if Richard has more he wants to add there. 01:10:20
Thank you, Chairman, Board of Supervisors. This is also an opportunity for APS to share the programs that we have to support 01:10:30
those. 01:10:33
Those customers that you're Speaking of, so we have a medical monitor program. So with all this outreach we're doing, we're 01:10:38
encouraging those who. 01:10:42
May need. 01:10:47
Power for life saving equipment to go ahead and sign up, make sure that they're aware of the program sign up so we do. 01:10:48
Direct outreach to those customers when when we do have an average and this is just basic outage preparation, not necessarily for 01:10:55
the PSPS event, but just outage preparation in general, so. 01:11:01
If we ask our customers and neighbors, if you know somebody who's. 01:11:08
In dire need of, you know, power. Obviously, we all are those customers who are a medical. 01:11:12
Equipment to look into our program. It's all online. They can always call us. We can give them the information. 01:11:17
And again, we work with emergency managers on it. 01:11:23
We've also been meeting directly with Townsend. 01:11:27
And and Globe Miami just to do planning because as you know. 01:11:29
Miami is an elderly community also. 01:11:33
So they wouldn't necessarily come to Globe. So we're working on the locations right in Miami. 01:11:36
To have these cooling stations, shelters. 01:11:41
So that they don't have to travel. 01:11:44
Richard, do you have a specific website? 01:11:47
To go sign up on that. 01:11:49
Yeah, it was just apsaps.com. 01:11:51
All of this information on the aps.com/PSPS. 01:11:54
But if they go to aps.com, all the medical monitor because it's under the residential programs. 01:11:58
We have ready Hila. 01:12:04
People sign up for Ready Hila as well. Yeah, and that's part of the outreach that we did. And so all of our customers are 01:12:06
receiving that this week. 01:12:09
And that's part of it is sign up right, make sure your contact information is up to date, but also sign up for Reddah alerts 01:12:13
because. 01:12:17
We work in tandem with the. 01:12:21
Emergency Manager. 01:12:22
And I'm just going to, if you'll indulge me for a second, I just want to also. 01:12:24
Do a shout out to other community groups that are. 01:12:28
Fully engaging with us and the one I want to highlight is Pine Strawberry Fuel Reduction and the CERT team that is in Pine 01:12:33
Strawberry. 01:12:37
I've been working with Elsa down there. They've got an amazing plan out for power outages where they they know where they're going 01:12:41
to bring and how they're going to support medical, medical patients in the area. They've got a plan for cooling and heating and 01:12:48
for water. So it's been really, it's been really gratifying to see a group like that kind of take hold because we've been working 01:12:56
with them early and, and kind of take on the planning for their community. So they are a model. 01:13:03
My mind if you have any, any communities, any of your constituents looking on how to support themselves also so. 01:13:11
Thank you for that anymore. No, I would just like to say thank you very much for for that information. 01:13:19
We have a lot of people on the line a lot of times, so sometimes I ask questions just so they get information that wasn't in a 01:13:26
presentation or something. So thank you very, very much for. 01:13:31
For. 01:13:36
Working so well with our Emergency Management team. 01:13:37
I will have to add at the end, but I'll go ahead and bring SRP up next to get their presentation if we get. 01:13:42
Very good. Thanks. 01:13:47
We have two people from SRP. 01:13:49
One good morning. 01:13:53
My name is Mark Parker. I'm the senior Manager for Transmission Line Asset Management and Maintenance. 01:13:57
At SRP and I have with me my director, Chase Kirby. 01:14:02
And he is the. 01:14:05
Director over transmission line design, construction and maintenance. 01:14:06
This past year. 01:14:12
Last year was our first year in the PSPS. 01:14:14
And most of our decisions were based upon. 01:14:17
Historical knowledge. 01:14:21
Having known where fires had occurred. 01:14:22
And uh. 01:14:25
We we selected 5 specific circuits and it included 1600 customers. 01:14:27
To be impacted by the PSPS. 01:14:32
Up here in this area. 01:14:36
The same circuits that were included last year will also be included. 01:14:38
In our PSPS but. 01:14:42
It is shrunk considerably. The reason why it has. 01:14:44
We brought on. 01:14:48
New technology working with the company by the end of Cloud Fire, they helped us develop a fire threat model map. 01:14:50
Like APS, we wanted to be able to make more data-driven decisions rather than just recalling our history. 01:14:56
And making our decisions that way. 01:15:03
So they've developed a fire threat model. Map showed us the three separate tiers. 01:15:05
Of uh. 01:15:10
Fire threat. 01:15:11
And we spent a great deal amount of time. 01:15:12
Working in those areas, the highest threat model area. 01:15:16
Where they're colored red on our map. 01:15:20
Apologize I don't have that map within the day but. 01:15:23
Be their colored red and so our folks from operations, vegetation management and from fire mitigation. 01:15:26
Visited each one of those sites. 01:15:32
Taking note about what would be the best way to address the fire risk in that area. 01:15:35
And most of it was done through vegetation management. 01:15:40
We've made a monumental change in. 01:15:45
Not just clearing vegetation from the lines, but also to add defensible spacing on poles. 01:15:47
And. 01:15:54
The fuels that burn so readily and so quickly. 01:15:56
So that's been the largest. The other thing that we spent a great deal of time was removing some of our Spark committing devices. 01:16:00
And changing them out to non expulsion equipment. 01:16:08
So that between those two. 01:16:11
Made a massive difference for some of the areas that we were most concerned about. 01:16:13
Down closer to the valley. 01:16:18
Then we also were able to umm. 01:16:20
Look at some possibilities for some areas in the future that we'd like to look at for undergrounding. We have not. 01:16:24
Started to do that yet, but that's something we are looking. 01:16:30
The area up here is of greater risk, so if we couldn't just. 01:16:36
Primarily do. 01:16:42
Vegetation management only. 01:16:43
I needed to do more. 01:16:45
So we have several of our circuits that are not a non repose program. 01:16:47
When if a fault opens up a circuit? 01:16:52
It stays open rather than just automatically trying to close. 01:16:54
Stays open. We patrol holes, so we took about 25 of our circuits and placed it on that program. 01:16:58
And we also have the five circuits, there are two emergency tie lines and three regular circuits that serve customers up here in 01:17:04
this area, the Tonto Basin area, a little bit here in Globe. 01:17:10
And some over by resolutions about lake. 01:17:16
That will be impacted by the PSPS this year. 01:17:19
That is a total of about 100 customers. 01:17:23
198 accounts and people on. 01:17:26
Multiple properties. 01:17:29
Some 99 customers would be impacted by that. 01:17:31
Umm, that's pretty much the update for this year as far as what we've got. 01:17:34
Ready for the PSPS program? 01:17:40
Our public outreach group has been working. 01:17:43
In measure with the. 01:17:46
Fire Chief at both of the substations. 01:17:50
To hopefully be a big support to having those serve the role of cooling stations. To the question that you asked Supervisor 01:17:52
Humphrey. 01:17:56
And so those efforts are going on. We do also reimburse for ice. 01:18:01
We have not. 01:18:06
Talked about specifically bringing and delivering ice, but if that's something that we need to do, we would. 01:18:07
We can certainly entertain that. 01:18:13
But we are definitely going to play a strong support role. 01:18:15
Help those customers in the area that who could be impacted. 01:18:18
As far as? 01:18:23
An aging population or those with medical devices. 01:18:24
We spoke with our customer service folks and none of the folks in this area have registered with us. 01:18:27
As being on medical devices. 01:18:34
But tomorrow night in our community meeting that's going to be held in Tunnel Basin. 01:18:36
At the desert community or Yeah. 01:18:42
Community Christian Church. 01:18:45
5:30 tomorrow night. 01:18:46
Umm, we will be bringing those same, some of those customer service folks with us to help sign up anyone who would like to 01:18:48
register the fact that they're on medical devices and they have specific needs. 01:18:53
In helping to get to. 01:18:59
Maybe even locations for the cooling stations. 01:19:01
We will play the support role that we need to. 01:19:04
With that, I'll entertain any questions. 01:19:08
Thank you, Supervisor Humphrey. 01:19:10
Umm, no, right off. I don't have any questions. Appreciate you reaching out to the public and having public meetings with your 01:19:13
customer service people there. 01:19:17
They just. 01:19:22
Yeah, sometimes they don't hear, they don't, you know, they don't get information and so. 01:19:24
Well, it's in the newspaper. Well, some people don't read the newspaper, so thank you very much for being. 01:19:30
Publicly acted. 01:19:35
In my district to reach out to the people and give them your information. 01:19:36
And to your point earlier, I'm sorry didn't interrupt, but the SRP net. 01:19:42
Forwardslashsrp.net/PSPS is where the information can be found. 01:19:46
For our PSPS program. 01:19:52
OK, you got that. 01:19:54
OK. Thank you. 01:19:56
Surprise the climb, Mark. Thank you and Janet. 01:19:59
One thing. 01:20:03
With this, our team mark is. 01:20:04
Here just a few days ago as I was appointed on an ad hoc committee. 01:20:07
From Representative Marshall and it deals with. 01:20:11
Fires insurance and all that that I'll be participating on SO. 01:20:15
I'm gonna, if you don't mind, I'm gonna give you one of our cards. 01:20:20
And if you could send me your contact information if you don't mind if I reach out to you have questions or? 01:20:24
I've got Janet. Yeah, we're pretty covered up with Janet's information, so we're good there. 01:20:31
But if I could get yours, I'd really appreciate it and. 01:20:37
There's a chance I'll be calling you later on. 01:20:40
Yes, please. 01:20:42
And we'll go from there. I. 01:20:47
The umm. 01:20:50
The letter I've got really in depth and we're going to be diving into a lot of this. 01:20:51
On that hot committee so. 01:20:55
So I appreciate everything you guys are looking at. I know SRP other than your big transmission lines, a lot of it is in this 01:20:58
lower country. 01:21:02
And so vegetation management a little bit tougher. 01:21:06
A lot of your fuels are the fine fuels. 01:21:10
And things like that. So. 01:21:13
Anyway, I should like to visit with you somewhere. 01:21:15
One on the way. Thank you. I look forward to. 01:21:18
Thank you. Thank you for the presentation SO. 01:21:21
Very similar programs. 01:21:23
Similar solutions. 01:21:26
Open circuit occurs. 01:21:29
Do you think that's after inspection going to be similar? 01:21:31
Time frame like up to 20 hours to get that circuit back open again. 01:21:35
Or are you? 01:21:41
Would you say? 01:21:42
More or less. 01:21:44
I would say it's similar our plan at this time if we need to open. 01:21:46
Any of the circuits then we would preemptively. 01:21:50
States are folks there. 01:21:53
In order to. 01:21:55
Help that control happen in a more expedition manner. 01:21:57
OK, thanks. So I think some misinformation kind of gets out there on the on the Internet. 01:22:02
And people are worried that you're all going to be just pulling the switch all the time and they're not going to be any power. And 01:22:07
I don't see this actually happening. 01:22:12
Often at all, and hopefully never. 01:22:16
Hopefully never. 01:22:20
And so that needs to be the message. Be prepared for an outage. 01:22:21
But don't think you guys. 01:22:25
This is not going to be overused. 01:22:28
Right. Yeah, it's really precautionary. 01:22:30
In the worst way, when things really go bad. 01:22:34
Our criteria has been set in such a manner As for us to do our best efforts to keep the power on. 01:22:37
Right. We don't want to turn it off. We never want. 01:22:43
To do that right. 01:22:46
It's certainly not something we've done lightheartedly. 01:22:48
Thank you very much. 01:22:52
So I do want to. 01:22:57
Commend both companies for helping us with outreach. 01:22:59
Both have advertised for Ready Hila alerts. 01:23:03
This is definitely a unique scenario as it's not. 01:23:07
By definition, emergency it is a planned event, but nonetheless this could be an emergency to an individual. 01:23:10
Especially those with medical dependencies. So I do appreciate. 01:23:18
All the outreach that they've assisted us with and all the outreach that they've taken on their own. 01:23:21
And I do want to also. 01:23:27
Kind of reach out to the public. 01:23:30
To all of you. 01:23:33
Our sheltering operations are primarily. 01:23:35
And dependent on. 01:23:38
The American Red Cross. 01:23:40
And right now we are still sitting at 2 Healey County residents that are volunteers at the Red Cross. 01:23:41
I have met with them because a lot of the concern coming from the public is a lot of our community members don't want to deploy to 01:23:47
other parts of the state or. 01:23:51
Or beyond. 01:23:56
If a resident of Healing County wishes to help with sheltering operations, they can get trained by the American Red Cross free of 01:23:58
charge. 01:24:02
And they can be upfront and say I only want to respond within my community and that is perfectly acceptable. 01:24:06
So that is something that I do want to say on record and and. 01:24:12
Let all of you know in case your constituents come to you. 01:24:15
And I'd ask you to please encourage it. I mean, I know there's there have been issues in the past where our constituents said, you 01:24:18
know, hey, some people are coming in from the Red Cross and. 01:24:23
Running shelters in our community and they're coming from Phoenix, they're coming from Tucson. They're not familiar with our our 01:24:28
community. 01:24:31
Think the best way to fix that is from the inside. 01:24:35
I dream of a day that we call the Red Cross. 01:24:38
For sheltering operations and the people that show up. 01:24:41
Are familiar faces in our community. 01:24:45
I think that would be the ideal scenario. 01:24:49
And I think that we can attain that. 01:24:52
With more outreach. So we're helping with the notification portion of that. 01:24:54
We will look into the sheltering opportunities, I mean. 01:25:00
This is something that we've done in the past with. 01:25:03
Winter storms with outages during extreme heat so. 01:25:06
The only difference here is that this is something that can be forecasted. 01:25:10
And that's all I have unless there's questions for me. 01:25:14
Thank you. Call supervisor. 01:25:17
I have no questions, Coral. I appreciate all that you have. 01:25:21
Done for us in all we. 01:25:25
Through in the emergencies that we've had and if you could get me the contact information for the Red Cross if someone's 01:25:27
interested. 01:25:31
And I will. I will get that. 01:25:36
When I'm on the radio. 01:25:38
And I will also. 01:25:40
Put that information out there in my public meetings. 01:25:42
And I'll try to do it. 01:25:45
You know, whenever I have my public meetings and things just so if there are interested. 01:25:46
People. 01:25:51
Because they do come to the public meeting, so they're interested in their communities, so they may want to. 01:25:52
Be able to help with the Red Cross so. 01:25:57
I will be happy to share that information and hopefully we can get some more volunteers for that. Absolutely. And I do have a 01:25:59
meeting with them and our community services department next week. 01:26:04
Just to kind of talk about the resources they have available and see if there's any overlaps or gaps or anything like that. 01:26:10
But I'm also going to be asking them to. 01:26:16
Maybe kind of follow suit with what APS and SRP are doing, showing up through events that we already have scheduled and? 01:26:19
And doing this promotion there, we'd love to help them with this. 01:26:26
Yeah, I think they're. 01:26:29
Well, like you say, we couldn't do what we do without them. 01:26:30
So anything we can do to support them and help them? 01:26:35
Get more volunteers, Be happy to. 01:26:40
Thank you. Copy all of us on that if you would absolutely supervise the client. 01:26:43
So I. 01:26:48
Talked about this issue in every meeting I've had since the very beginning. Janet, when you brought it. 01:26:51
To my attention. 01:26:56
You know, you know, we may have 20 to 50 people sitting in the chairs and. 01:26:58
You know, you explain it. 01:27:04
But a lot of people still don't understand it. 01:27:06
And even though you go into detail and you explain it and you explain it, it's like. 01:27:09
Oh, that will never happen. 01:27:14
This is the year that that could happen. 01:27:16
As this year. 01:27:19
You know, we're under pretty bad drought conditions right now. 01:27:21
Across the rim. 01:27:25
It's going to depend a lot on. 01:27:28
On how long that's going to continue, I would guess and that's going to depend on our monsoons and when those are going to roll 01:27:30
in. 01:27:34
But I can guarantee you through the month of June and. 01:27:37
Last part of May, probably the first part of July, is going to get tough. 01:27:40
It already is tough. 01:27:44
And so. 01:27:45
You know, a lot of people will be fine. 01:27:47
It's the ones with the medical. 01:27:51
Needs that kind of worry me and are older. 01:27:54
Generations, you know, they're, they're there. They, they. 01:27:57
You know they're. 01:28:01
Do what they can, but sometimes they can do a lot and so. 01:28:02
I anticipate us getting those phone calls or a lot of them. 01:28:06
And I thought about this and thought about it, and I like the question that Supervisor Humphrey asked. 01:28:11
But when it comes right down to it, from a county standpoint, there's not a lot we can offer them. 01:28:18
You know, this is this is really. 01:28:25
Something that we can only put out there for our constituents and try and get them to understand the the importance of this. That 01:28:27
could happen. 01:28:32
And hope that they'll prepare themselves, but in reality is is a lot of people can't prepare for this. They don't have the 01:28:37
financial. 01:28:41
Means to do it. 01:28:45
They don't have enough money to buy a backup generator. 01:28:47
Or whatever they need to do that and so. 01:28:51
We're kind of on uncharted territory, you know, as the county goes, and I know that that we will be the ones getting those points. 01:28:55
Phone calls and it's going to be a little bit tough to sit there and tell people there's only. 01:29:03
Very little we can do. 01:29:10
And so that's why. 01:29:11
That's why I'm really glad to hear APS and SRP that are really. 01:29:13
Buckled down and looking at the indices and the conditions and everything like that, making sure it's absolutely necessary. 01:29:18
To pull that trigger because. 01:29:26
That's going to be very important that we don't jump the gun. 01:29:28
Put people in a position. 01:29:33
So they're not going to have an easy time with. 01:29:36
And so my question to you, Carl would be? 01:29:39
What are you going to need if this comes about? I mean, as far as staffing, as far as what I mean, have you thought about that? 01:29:44
Absolutely. 01:29:53
So I I'm a. 01:29:54
A little bit of a preparedness nerd, so I try to think of every potential. 01:29:56
Come, that could happen. 01:30:01
But I also do learn when they finally do. 01:30:02
The biggest 1 is that shelter support. 01:30:05
It really is because if we. 01:30:07
If we're on something that the shorter duration, it may not be necessary. 01:30:10
I went through my years here that we base. 01:30:14
We base shelter off of need, not the type of emergency because the different times in the past we've stood up a shelter and. 01:30:17
Not. 01:30:23
The Red Cross also for for smaller scale emergencies. 01:30:24
Sometimes it's more resource beneficial for them to offer, you know, hotel accommodations for one or two families. 01:30:30
So those are discussions that are ongoing to be prepared in case we go down that Ave. 01:30:37
Another thing to consider is with our notification system we do have the IPAWS capability. 01:30:44
But iPods can only be utilized in a declarable emergency event. 01:30:50
So we cannot utilize. 01:30:55
For what is considered a planned event? 01:30:58
That doesn't stop us from sending our. 01:31:01
Our normal notifications through Ready healer alerts. Can I ask you a question at this point though? 01:31:02
We know that there will be a planned at the end. 01:31:08
But it's for a reason. 01:31:13
So my question and I don't. 01:31:15
Maybe you can answer. 01:31:18
Coral is it's going to become an emergency. 01:31:20
When that happens, even though it is a planned event. 01:31:25
When you when you're talking about possibly affecting. 01:31:29
A bunch of people. 01:31:33
It's going to turn into an emergency emergency pretty quickly at that point in time. 01:31:35
So. 01:31:40
What? What's the process then? What's what's going to happen? 01:31:43
So shelter. 01:31:47
Operations for sure. 01:31:49
If we have the need and there's people say this is a longer event. 01:31:52
Going over multiple operational periods. 01:31:56
Sheltering options for sure. 01:31:59
More than likely. 01:32:01
In a neighboring community, so we're not. 01:32:04
Running a shelter off of a generator. 01:32:06
Creating an issue there. 01:32:09
We've we've had IGA's and we've had our. 01:32:10
Own organizations within the county help out with transportation if needed. 01:32:13
We have, we have processes in place for that. 01:32:18
The State Emergency Management Department has been very much on board with the communications. We've been talking with our 01:32:22
neighboring counties to provide support wherever needed. 01:32:27
So that, like Supervisor Humphrey said, the biggest need would be that that. 01:32:32
Pooling center and then. 01:32:37
The biggest mitigation measure that we can. 01:32:39
Make his outreach to people one thing that I've been promoting to people. 01:32:41
Because my biggest fear is if you have a landline. 01:32:46
But it's a wireless landline. 01:32:49
The assumption is you know you don't need power for your landline to call 911. 01:32:52
It is a wireless landline. You do. 01:32:56
For anywhere between. 01:33:00
Now 30 and $60.00 on Amazon, you can buy a battery backup. 01:33:02
Our surge protector that has a battery backup. 01:33:07
They can keep simple devices like a landline phone or something operational. 01:33:10
I would encourage that for homeowners. 01:33:16
That's a fantastic thing to have. 01:33:20
Battery. Lithium batteries, Portable batteries. 01:33:23
Become more and more affordable. 01:33:25
As time has gone on. 01:33:27
And I understand that asking our. 01:33:29
Your constituents to have a generator. 01:33:31
It's not always a realistic. 01:33:34
Ask for some quotes but so trying to find more. 01:33:36
Realistic asks that we. 01:33:39
Recommend to the public to make them better prepared. 01:33:41
So yeah, we've we've gone through a lot of these different scenarios. Actually just had a planning meeting with Maricopa County. 01:33:45
Yesterday to discuss. 01:33:51
Kind of the parallels between our response plans for this type of event. 01:33:53
But you're absolutely right, you know, even though this is a. 01:33:58
A forecasted event and not, by definition, an emergency. 01:34:01
If it's 108° outside and somebody that has a medical dependency, that becomes an emergency very quickly. 01:34:05
So we're trying to account for every possibility that can happen. 01:34:11
And come up with a plan on what we can do to help. 01:34:16
Bye, Carl. Thank you. I guess. 01:34:20
You know, going forward, I think the big. 01:34:25
He is just. 01:34:28
Stay in tune and see what comes up. And we keep pushing the message out there and. 01:34:30
And, and I hope people are listening and and. 01:34:37
And taking it serious. 01:34:41
You know, some of our communities are used to power outages. 01:34:44
For the most part, I mean new people moving in or whatever, they're not, but. 01:34:48
But some of these are places. 01:34:54
They're not so used to it, you know when you're talking. 01:34:56
Pine Strawberry. 01:34:59
Paste in a lot of them are you know power goes out for 30 minutes or an hour. 01:35:01
Yeah, occasionally that may happen, but. 01:35:07
10 hours, let's say. 01:35:09
That's a while. 01:35:11
And so. 01:35:13
So it's going to be a learning curve. 01:35:15
So it's going to be but coral, thanks. And I, you know, from my standpoint, whatever. 01:35:17
You think about or come up with. 01:35:23
Needless, no? 01:35:25
Absolutely. I'll. I'll definitely be in touch with all of you. 01:35:26
As time goes on and you know. 01:35:29
What we are going to plan as much as possible and think of every possible outcome, but we learn the most from real time events so 01:35:31
I can almost guarantee you I'll have way more information. 01:35:36
If that trigger ever gets pulled, I think it was Mike Tyson that said everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the face. 01:35:42
So I quote, I try to live by. 01:35:46
Thank you, Carl. 01:35:51
Yes, thank you, Carl. And I want to thank SRP and APS for being here today. 01:35:53
And helping us to understand. 01:35:58
And this is. 01:36:00
Your intention is to keep people safe. 01:36:02
Not uncomfortable. 01:36:04
And so everyone needs to understand that that this could be uncomfortable. 01:36:06
But it's intended to keep everyone safe. 01:36:11
And I hope we don't need to use it, but I'm afraid. 01:36:14
Supervisor Klein might be correct. This could be a challenging year. So. 01:36:17
All right, is that all you have then? 01:36:22
On this one yesterday. 01:36:24
Yes. OK. Thank you very much and we'll move on. 01:36:25
Item 2C. 01:36:29
Information discussion regarding. 01:36:31
The completion of the northern Hewitt County water storage system. 01:36:33
Project Carl. 01:36:36
Thank you, Chairman under the board. 01:36:38
So this project. 01:36:40
So this project initially kicked off in 2006. 01:36:45
When the water bladders were installed and it's been really difficult for me to stop calling these sites, bladder sites, but. 01:36:50
His bladder sites were placed across 14 locations. 01:36:58
In room country with the intention of having water accessible anywhere in Rome country within 5 minutes via helicopter. 01:37:02
This was before my time, but here's the. 01:37:09
That those ladders were. 01:37:12
We did update the map with a couple of minor adjustments, for example the the. 01:37:16
The dry tanks were that location was moved down to the Jake's Corner rest stop. 01:37:22
So since I. 01:37:32
Started in this job in 2015, so 10 years now doesn't feel like it this has been. 01:37:33
No pun intended. A hot topic. 01:37:40
The bladders have. 01:37:42
Have a relatively short lifespan. 01:37:44
And our Public Works Department deserves all the commendations in the world for keeping them going as long as they have. 01:37:47
But they have been an issue with. 01:37:53
Weather deterioration. 01:37:56
With animals wanting access to easy water and. 01:37:58
Them not being those ladders not be outfit to protect that. 01:38:02
And then, of course, the unfortunate. 01:38:05
Human element to it, which is the platters being vandalized. 01:38:07
Doesn't take much to drain the water out of these. 01:38:11
So in March 2022. 01:38:15
Senator Kelly's office awarded $609,000 and congressionally directed earmark monies to be used for the main. 01:38:17
Maintenance of these sites. 01:38:25
Umm Once this project made its way down to Emergency Management, we started discussions with the Healey County Fire Chiefs 01:38:28
Association, which served as the perfect hub to have these discussions because they also do include Forest Service. 01:38:35
And then Department of Forestry and Fire Management. 01:38:44
To talk about. 01:38:47
What direction to go with this project? 01:38:49
It was determined that those existing military desert storm. 01:38:54
Water bladders were degrading. 01:38:58
More and more difficult. 01:39:00
Repair umm. 01:39:02
We went out and did site visits of all of these. 01:39:04
And. 01:39:07
They were in various conditions and I know from talking with public works that they were resulting in a lot of day-to-day 01:39:08
maintenance. 01:39:12
Granted, it did serve an incredibly important purpose, but they. 01:39:16
They needed some help. 01:39:20
You can see in some of these closer images here there's a lot of areas that are held together by glue. 01:39:22
And some of the bladders. 01:39:29
Had suffered complete failure. 01:39:33
So. 01:39:45
We began the process after the discussion with the Fire Chiefs Association, all of our partners, and of course, meeting the Board 01:39:46
of Supervisors. 01:39:49
On moving forward with replacing the ladders. 01:39:53
With 5000 gallon water storage tanks. Four of those tanks at each site giving them. 01:39:57
The sites all. 01:40:03
A 20,000 gallon capacity. 01:40:04
Prior to that. 01:40:08
The sites had anywhere between 5000. 01:40:09
50,000 gallons of capacity. 01:40:12
Just based on the size of the bladders that were available. 01:40:16
It was also determined that plumbing these tanks individually created kind of a fail safe. 01:40:20
We thought of, you know, the realistic possibility that. 01:40:26
People like to shoot things. 01:40:29
So if one of these tanks get shot, they are not. 01:40:31
Connected together, only that one tank will drain. 01:40:34
We also did order the repair kit so we are able to repair any kind of damage like that that occurs. 01:40:38
There's a diagram of what those tanks look like. 01:40:47
There's also a huge. 01:40:51
The advantage to having? 01:40:53
The individual 5000 gallon tanks. 01:40:55
As opposed to going with much larger tanks first was the cost of shipping. 01:40:58
Anything larger than this is going to require wide load shipping, which is a huge jump in that shipping cost. 01:41:03
And also the accessibility to some of these individual sites would be far more difficult with any any change with the lighter 01:41:08
footprint. 01:41:12
So these 56 tanks were purchased from Tank Depot and delivered to the Star Valley Yard. 01:41:17
Where they were then picked up, transported and installed across those 14 sites. 01:41:22
And then outfitted with the appropriate plumbing and filled with water. 01:41:26
Supervisor client, I know the last meeting that I was unable to attend. You had asked about the plumbing. 01:41:32
So the plumbing came in two separate parts. 01:41:37
The first part, the actual alteration to the tanks itself. 01:41:39
That had to be outfitted with the correct. 01:41:43
Essentially holes. 01:41:45
That we could not have an external plumber do without voiding the warranty. 01:41:47
However, the parts that actually connect to the hoses and are able to draw the water from. 01:41:52
Could not be shipped installed on those tanks or they could be broken. 01:41:58
So. 01:42:02
The company did the initial plumbing, which is. 01:42:03
Adding the holes and the gaskets to it. 01:42:06
And then we had the plumbing done after the back, which is actually connecting the hoses. 01:42:09
Bits and everything and putting that all together. 01:42:14
So this is what those tanks look like. 01:42:20
They're all pretty uniform, they look the same. 01:42:24
The the sites all have them kind of in the same layout they were. 01:42:27
There was some granite placed beneath them. 01:42:31
Making sure that they were level before. 01:42:33
Put in place. 01:42:36
Umm, and these are. 01:42:38
I anticipate. 01:42:40
Much more resistance you not only. 01:42:42
Animals and and that human. 01:42:45
Factor there. 01:42:48
Of folks unfortunately vandalizing. 01:42:49
These properties. 01:42:52
I should also note that each one of these sites is does have a sign on it saying that this is county property, no trespassing. 01:42:54
But working on the human nature. 01:43:02
Will be human nature and there was a lot of events where the bladders were vandalized and I think that this creates. 01:43:04
More of a deterrent. 01:43:10
For that, these are much harder damage. 01:43:12
So the tanks and delivery came in at around. 01:43:16
300 at 373,000. 01:43:19
Dollars the installation 82,000 making the total 456,000. 01:43:23
And $44.83. 01:43:29
The county share being 50% of that was $228. 01:43:32
Or $228,000. 01:43:36
And this reimbursement was filed already to the Forest Service. We're expecting it. 01:43:39
Any day now to be reimbursed for. 01:43:45
That 50% of that making the county's total cost. 01:43:49
$228,022.42. 01:43:52
Umm, we've also had quite a bit of interest in in this project I've had. 01:43:56
Four different HOA's reach out now. 01:44:03
Asking for any specifics that we can provide because they want to duplicate the project that we've done. 01:44:06
I also had the US Forest Service reach out for copies of this presentation and any specs that we have because they'd like to use 01:44:12
it as a. 01:44:16
A model of a project to promote for counties. 01:44:21
Across the state and across the US that are prone to wildfire, so. 01:44:24
Was it was a nice honor. 01:44:28
To be used as an example for that. 01:44:30
A few thank yous. 01:44:34
That I wanted to give. 01:44:36
First was the Gila County Board of Supervisors for the guidance of course. Thank you guys for the support and. 01:44:37
And the patients throughout this process, I know it's that it's hurdles, but I'm happy to. 01:44:43
To wrap this up. 01:44:48
The Healey County Fire Chiefs Association was was a pivotal. 01:44:49
Organization to lean on for this because. 01:44:54
It has all of our fire districts in attendance as well as our Land Management partners. 01:44:57
Wayne Jones, specifically from Public Works. 01:45:02
Been jumping up to help out wherever he can. He was a huge part of this. 01:45:06
Michael, you. 01:45:12
Michael Driscoll has helped out a lot with this. Every time that I've kind of hit a roadblock, I got to go pester him and I'm sure 01:45:14
he loves taking my phone calls at all hours. 01:45:18
Of course, the late, great Tommy Fine Martin for. 01:45:22
Taking this project off in the 1st place and it's an honor to kind of pick up. 01:45:26
There Tim Scott for helping her with the initial project and then being a part of this prior to retirement but. 01:45:31
Jackie Sanders as well. She was a huge part of it. 01:45:40
O'meara and of course Tank Depot. 01:45:43
And depends on resources. 01:45:46
Couldn't have done it without. 01:45:49
All of those partners being involved. And one last thing that I wasn't able to put in the presentation. 01:45:52
A Saturday, the Slate Fire. 01:45:57
Started on Hwy. 87. 01:46:00
I'm sure a lot of folks got a notice for that. 01:46:03
If you didn't get a notice, it's because that fire was extinguished at just under 5 acres using water. 01:46:06
From the tanks at the Jake's Corner rest stop. 01:46:12
So if one of the questions is when are they ready? Saturday. They were used Saturday. 01:46:15
So that's great. 01:46:20
Yeah, so. 01:46:21
That's all I have unless there's questions or comments. 01:46:22
I have no questions. Thank you, Carl. 01:46:27
But I don't think I do either, Carl. I mean, this is a super good project and I. 01:46:28
I kind of foresee in the future maybe expanding it a little bit in different areas, but. 01:46:36
But it is a huge plus and and. 01:46:41
And quite honestly, when Tommy started this way back when. 01:46:45
You know, my biggest question was I wonder why she's doing that because. 01:46:50
For services, you know, even today with a phone call, they can have a city set up by the next morning. I mean, they can have 01:46:55
anything they want to brought in, but. 01:46:59
That this is proven. 01:47:03
What it'll do? 01:47:06
And it's a huge need. 01:47:07
And this is mostly designed for the initial attack. 01:47:09
Stage anyway. 01:47:12
For that initial start, that first 24 hours. 01:47:14
And it's a huge plus. And I really want to think Senator Mark Kelly for. 01:47:18
For being a supporter of this and helping us on this as well and. 01:47:22
And I hope some of these, whether it's HOA's or just other. 01:47:27
Outlying communities, you know, take a good close look at this and. 01:47:32
It's worth doing. 01:47:38
Especially the way insurance. 01:47:40
Is today. 01:47:43
With the with the Forest Service kind of taking on this model and sharing it with their partners and and. 01:47:44
With their. 01:47:50
Fuels management specialists and everything. 01:47:51
I think that this may be. 01:47:54
Become more of a regular. 01:47:55
Strategy across the state. 01:47:58
Which benefits us. We've learned from some of these massive super fires that we've had that. 01:48:00
A neighboring county's fire is also our problem. Very well has a potential to be our problem. 01:48:05
And this can't be an individual or even just a county effort. This has to be. 01:48:10
Minimalist statewide effort that feels mitigation and. 01:48:15
Wildfire mitigation. So, well, you showed it right there, $470,000 for this project basically. 01:48:18
Umm, if you catch it in that first 24 hours. 01:48:25
It's already paid for itself, but if it goes beyond that 24 hour period, we're talking millions of dollars really quick. 01:48:30
And so it's well worth the investment to do this if you. 01:48:37
Afford to do it. 01:48:41
Absolutely. So thank you for. 01:48:42
And then I'm getting it done, of course and and. 01:48:45
That's a good point that you bring up, because the. 01:48:48
The cost of this project in its entirety. 01:48:50
Is far less than. 01:48:52
Incident management team maintaining A wildfire operation for a 24 hour period far less. 01:48:54
And is that all you have? It is OK. Thank you, Carl. So. 01:49:02
Tommy Martin had a brilliant idea. 01:49:07
To start this. 01:49:10
And so. 01:49:11
What what's the what was our capacity with the bladder? 01:49:13
Do you remember just offhand, as far as water? Yeah, about how many gallons? 01:49:18
Hmm, that would be, that would be a tough one to estimate because. 01:49:23
Your estimate because the average site there I'd say was around. 01:49:27
15 to 20,000 gallons, OK. 01:49:33
Depending on the condition of the bladders at that time, because they were. 01:49:36
The one thing that all those sites had in common was ground saturation, showing that there was there was leakage. 01:49:41
So even though there was a 20,000 gallon bladder at one site. 01:49:48
If we'd be lucky to be maintaining at 15,000 gallons, but the average site would have about 15,000 gallons and we still have some 01:49:52
bladders that are. 01:49:57
Good. And we're going to keep them, yes. So the bladders will run parallel with those tanks until they fail, then they can be 01:50:02
removed rather than maintained. 01:50:05
So we've increased our capacity a lot and made it more reliable. 01:50:09
There's almost 300,000. 01:50:13
Gallons of water just in the hard tanks. 01:50:15
What's the matter so? 01:50:18
It's really good. 01:50:20
And thanks for all your work, it's taken a little time to do it, but. 01:50:21
It's going to last for decades now. 01:50:25
Yeah. So yes, Sir, Yeah. 01:50:28
A question are they going to drain those tanks and refill them every season to keep frozen? 01:50:31
Keep them from freezing in the winter. 01:50:38
So they are filled just. 01:50:40
Around between 80 and 90%, which will allow for expansion and contraction to accommodate for freezing and for summer. 01:50:42
So and they're also treated with bleach, so draining won't be necessary. They're they're at a good capacity. 01:50:50
Yeah, good, because it one time I heard that they might be and it was like. 01:50:58
That doesn't sound a great idea and a lot of work. 01:51:02
To put that water back. 01:51:06
The the maintenance. 01:51:09
Cost and the maintenance. 01:51:11
Efforts should be drastically decreased. 01:51:13
On our Public Works department, who maintains these sites. 01:51:17
These are very low maintenance. There's not a steady leak on just about everyone like there was with the bladders. 01:51:21
And there's not that constant. 01:51:28
At least not as constant of a risk of just finding them failed completely when you arrive. 01:51:31
OK, that's it. All right. Thanks, Carl. I appreciate that. So I look forward to that article in the newspaper. 01:51:37
That we're doing good. 01:51:45
OK. 01:51:48
So we finally reached. 01:51:49
Item 3, which is called to the public and called to the public, is something that we extend out of courtesy. 01:51:52
To the public, if they have any comments we can't vote on that we may discuss. 01:51:58
Or have questions or respond to criticism. 01:52:03
But umm. 01:52:07
Anyway, it is just something that we. 01:52:09
That we accommodate for. 01:52:13
So I usually like to. 01:52:16
Limit the speaker to 3 minutes. 01:52:19
And if it's necessary I can extend that. 01:52:22
And we just don't want to get into a real long presentation. So let me ask real quick though. 01:52:26
Cassie, do we have anybody on the? 01:52:31
Internet that wishes to participate and then in Payson do we have anyone that wishes to participate? 01:52:33
OK. Thank you And. 01:52:39
We have one person I know of here in Globe. Is there anyone else in Globe? 01:52:41
Now and so Mr. 01:52:46
David Berry is here and he. 01:52:49
He'd been here before and he would like to talk about. 01:52:53
Property issues, so please come on up. 01:52:57
And you have been here before to discuss property issues. 01:53:04
Yeah, this is about pretty much the same issue. It's just escalated to a point where. 01:53:07
I'm seeking some help from the county. 01:53:14
OK, and this is quite difficult for me to speak about, so if I'm shaking when I'm speaking, please understand that. 01:53:16
OK. I'm a property investor in the area. 01:53:22
I've purchased a number of lots and buildings. 01:53:25
Been working diligently to. 01:53:28
You know, assist the community. 01:53:31
I've been able to help three small businesses open. 01:53:32
As well as provide low income housing for a number of people. 01:53:36
And my goal is of providing. 01:53:39
Further low income housing I've run into an issue. 01:53:40
Few property disputes. 01:53:44
Neighbors the. 01:53:46
Main one I'm having issues with. 01:53:47
Is a property located inside of Hilo County. 01:53:50
It's on the border of Gila County and. 01:53:53
The town of. 01:53:55
In this issue is. 01:53:59
Become quite untenable. 01:54:00
And. 01:54:02
Come to the point where? 01:54:04
The town of Miami's. 01:54:05
Overextended their. 01:54:07
Efforts into he. 01:54:09
Property in Gila County. 01:54:11
And. 01:54:13
There's been documented and proven. 01:54:14
Communications that are quite disturbing between. 01:54:18
Candidate for town council. 01:54:21
And town management. 01:54:23
The there's an area of adverse possession attempted to be taken that includes A roadway that has a small chunk of land owned by 01:54:26
Gila County. 01:54:30
As well as the. 01:54:35
Wrote and wrote. Owned by the town of Miami. 01:54:36
This would. If successful, this would. 01:54:42
Would have an effect on my easement and egress to my other my property as well. 01:54:46
I've tried to address this issue through. 01:54:53
The notice of proposed corrections through the Gila County Assessors Office. 01:54:56
And I I. 01:55:01
Appreciate the efforts of the Heald County Assessor's Office. 01:55:04
As well as the Hilo County Sheriff's Department and trying to address it, but it's become to the point where it's. 01:55:08
Untenable. 01:55:13
I've been receiving a lot of harassment online. 01:55:18
From a candidate for town council. 01:55:21
Up to and including. 01:55:23
Threats to have me chained to a chair. 01:55:26
And eaten by pigs. 01:55:28
In response, the town council. 01:55:30
The town. 01:55:33
Candidate for town council said it stated that I'm better off this piggy food. 01:55:35
There's been mentions of use of firearms, including a 3030. 01:55:39
And threats of rapid lead poisoning. 01:55:44
If I continue my efforts. 01:55:47
These have been documented and I've been able to obtain an order of protection that's been violated. 01:55:50
And I'm currently waiting for that to be further addressed to the court system. 01:55:56
The issue that I stand here is aid for to have. 01:56:01
Hopefully. 01:56:05
Is to. 01:56:06
Allow the county or have the county. 01:56:09
Defend the. 01:56:11
Public property that's attempting to be taken through adverse possession. 01:56:13
To helpfully, hopefully protect my. 01:56:17
Access to the property as well. 01:56:20
It's there's a. 01:56:23
The line between. 01:56:25
OK, please, please continue. 01:56:28
Is that my 3 minutes? Yeah, that's OK, please. Yeah, finish your thoughts. 01:56:30
There's a blurred line between. 01:56:36
This civil and criminal actions. 01:56:38
And the. 01:56:41
The town of Miami is overreached into. 01:56:42
Property of Gila County has. 01:56:44
Caused a number of issues. 01:56:46
If you guys are willing, I'd be willing to speak with you about these issues. I thank you for your time today and I think. 01:56:49
The efforts that have been put in to address this issue. 01:56:55
And hope to continue to be able to conduct business in Hewlett County. 01:56:58
Thank you, Mr. Barry. 01:57:03
Any questions or comments? Supervisor Humphrey? 01:57:05
No, none other than I do believe I have an appointment with you after this meeting. 01:57:09
And so that's. 01:57:15
You're gonna come and I have. 01:57:17
Supervisor. 01:57:19
I don't. 01:57:23
You know, apparently there's more to this story. Q. 01:57:26
That you have and whatnot that we haven't heard but. 01:57:30
It's it's in 10th District and I'm sure you're gonna. 01:57:34
Spilling in on it so. 01:57:39
Thanks for being here today. 01:57:41
Thank you. 01:57:42
Yeah. Thanks for your patience, Mr. Barry. 01:57:43
To speak. It's been a long meeting already, but. 01:57:46
I wish you the best that this can all be resolved and so. 01:57:50
We can get you to the right people. 01:57:55
To do that. 01:57:57
So, yeah, thank you. 01:57:59
Thank you. All right. Anyone else? 01:58:01
And let's move on to our. 01:58:04
County managers report. 01:58:07
Nothing further today, Mr. Chairman. 01:58:10
Thank you, Supervisor. 01:58:12
Uh yeah. Attended a CAG central AZ. 01:58:15
A Regional Council meeting on the 23rd. 01:58:18
And it was. 01:58:22
It was nice because the mayor of Globe, mayor of Miami and myself carpooled, so it gave us a chance to. 01:58:25
Kind of visit about the community. 01:58:32
I will attend a project team meeting on the 30th. 01:58:35
Will hold a Geisela community meeting on May 3rd. 01:58:40
And I'll attend the. 01:58:43
On. 01:58:47
Me and just I heard from. 01:58:48
Of Jeremy Plain that the tunnel forth is now in stage 2 and close to shooting. 01:58:53
No fires unless designated campgrounds, no welding, no. 01:59:00
No starting fires as when did he do that today? 01:59:05
Yeah, umm. 01:59:09
And so anyway, that's just part of our drought. 01:59:10
Coming into the heat of. 01:59:14
Of the of the season so. 01:59:15
We are now in fire. 01:59:19
Closure. 01:59:21
Thank you, supervisor, and that's all. 01:59:23
OK. 01:59:26
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So last Friday I. 01:59:28
Ended a meeting in Fountain Hills. 01:59:31
It was a range. 01:59:34
Meeting with all the permittees. There was price 75 of us in the meeting that day. 01:59:36
Umm it in In some ways it was good, in some ways it was the same old moral. 01:59:44
But but what it is, is the tunnel. 01:59:49
Is taking all the allotments and putting them into one big environmental impact. 01:59:52
For the grazing. And so it's going to be quite interesting how that one's going to shake out. 01:59:58
We'll just have to play it by ear and C. 02:00:06
One thing I did. 02:00:09
I did have the opportunity to. 02:00:10
Talked to Neil Bosworth at that meeting. 02:00:13
Some of you know him, some of you don't, but Neil's been our board supervisor for a number of years. 02:00:17
Anyway, he's retired today. I think it's his last day. 02:00:23
As far as? 02:00:28
Supervisor. 02:00:30
And so we have a lady coming in. She's from the northwest. 02:00:31
Had a chance to meet her yet? 02:00:34
But she should be in here taking meals. 02:00:36
Mills position on an app. 02:00:40
And then I mentioned it a while ago, but I have been appointed to an ad hoc committee. 02:00:42
House committee done from Representative Marshall. 02:00:50
And it's basically to discuss wallpaper preparedness and management. 02:00:56
Insurance coverage both across rural and urban areas in in Arizona. 02:01:03
Accessibility, Affordability. 02:01:07
Coverage gaps and insurance for homeowners and businesses. 02:01:10
The effectiveness of fire response efforts. 02:01:15
And quite a gamut of different. 02:01:20
Parts of the fire world, I guess you would say. And so. 02:01:24
But he put together a very, very good. 02:01:27
List of committee members. 02:01:32
There's Mr. Ethan Allman, James Canal and Thomas Coretto me, Gary Morris, Russell Smolden for the state government relations. 02:01:35
David Cheney, Navajo County Board of Supervisors. 02:01:46
And Tom Torres. 02:01:49
From the Department of Forestry. 02:01:52
And then also. 02:01:55
On that committee is. 02:01:57
Walt Blackman, representing Bliss, representing Platte Representative Griffin. 02:02:00
Representative Marshall, Representative Hamilton, and Representative UH. 02:02:05
So thee, so it ought to be a real interesting. 02:02:11
Committee to be a part of. 02:02:17
And, well, we're supposed to work on coming up with. 02:02:19
Covering up with all the answers by about December 31st. 02:02:25
So that's a big. 02:02:29
Big, tall order. I don't know where that's going to lead. 02:02:30
A lot of people are still faced with. 02:02:33
Cancellations on the insurance policies unifier. 02:02:37
I feel like there's a lot more we can be doing on the ground. 02:02:42
To you know, in the way of fields management. 02:02:45
Preparedness. 02:02:49
I think they're going all right, but there's going to be a really good committee to be on. 02:02:50
And it's one that is very, very important to Hina County. 02:02:55
So it's all Mr. Chair, big supervisor. 02:02:58
And good luck with that. Thank you. 02:03:03
It's a good thing. 02:03:05
I saw in the paper the other day. 02:03:08
If I can. 02:03:10
Trust it. It said that a judge blocked the wolf expansion north of I-40. 02:03:12
Have you heard about that? 02:03:19
I can't ask him a question. Have you heard about that? 02:03:21
So I do have. 02:03:26
On that issue, I'm glad you brought it up. 02:03:29
Umm, the Mexican law. 02:03:31
It's a T&J experimental population and they had a goal of. 02:03:36
Three, let's just say 300 Wolves is right in there and we're close to it. 02:03:42
Close to that meeting, they're on the ground. 02:03:45
Catching County in New Mexico. 02:03:49
Is absolutely heaven. Hail with the wolves and so. 02:03:51
There's there's a big push right now to do away with this program. 02:03:55
And. 02:04:01
It's quite interesting on to me as to which way it's going to go. 02:04:02
I'm on a coalition of counties between Arizona and New Mexico. I'm on the ECO board, which also addresses that. We've had 02:04:08
conversations. 02:04:12
They are going to be reaching out and I think they've already started reaching out to counties to support them on their. 02:04:17
On their movement to do away with this and so. 02:04:25
It's going to be interesting. One of the thoughts is that let the Wolves reach its benchmark. 02:04:28
Goal and then continue with the listing. 02:04:34
Down listing of the world population. 02:04:38
Umm, I know that's not going to be catch and counting's. 02:04:42
Thought they're ready, they're done. They've had enough. 02:04:44
Rightfully so, I can't disagree with them at all. 02:04:48
And. 02:04:51
The fact of the matter is whether. 02:04:53
Whether the fight is to do away with the program or to start the listing, it's going to turn into a lot of litigation from the 02:04:56
NGOs. 02:05:01
That's where it's headed. 02:05:06
And and that's going to happen. It doesn't matter which Rd. you go down. That's that's what's going to take place. So. 02:05:07
For I would say for the next 6 months. 02:05:14
It's going to be quite interesting on that one. 02:05:16
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 02:05:19
Thank you for that and so. 02:05:21
I'll also be at the Lincoln Day dinner, I think that's on May 3rd. 02:05:24
And Payson at the casino, so that should be good. There will be a few good speakers there. 02:05:28
And. 02:05:34
So I was kind of like looking in the lobby of the. 02:05:37
TMC building there in Payson and I was thinking we could expand our offering of information. 02:05:41
With regard to fire wising. 02:05:47
Hardening your property. 02:05:49
And have some of the other information so. 02:05:51
We went ahead and got an additional. 02:05:55
A couple of shelving that I call a kiosk. Not really a kiosk, but. 02:05:59
We set that up. It looks good in there. 02:06:03
And so that if anyone. 02:06:05
Needs information on some of that stuff. It's available in the lobby. 02:06:07
So that's about all I have. 02:06:12
I got stuff coming up, but that's all I'm going to report on right now, so if there's nothing else. 02:06:14
I would during the meeting. Thank you. 02:06:19