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  • 1.  CALL TO ORDER - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE   REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:
  • A.   Information/Discussion on the activities of the County Supervisors Association (CSA) by Craig Sullivan, CSA Executive Director, including a discussion of recent legislative activities. (Craig Sullivan)
  • B.  Information/Discussion with Andy Jacobs and Todd Baughman of Policy Development Group to review the timeline for the upcoming Arizona Legislative Session and to explore potential legislative submissions on behalf of Gila County to address key issues of concern. (James Menlove)
  • C.  Information/Discussion regarding the management of Gila County-owned properties, and State of Arizona-owned properties which are in the care of the Board of Supervisors. (Michael O'Driscoll)
  • D.  Information/Discussion with Ashley Dixon-Kleiber from the University of Arizona Cooperative Extension to recognize the current services they provide residents of Gila County and forthcoming changes due to Renee Cartsens' retirement. (Ashley Dixon-Kleiber)
  • 3.   CALL TO THE PUBLIC:  A call to the public is held for public benefit to allow individuals to address the Board of Supervisors on any issue within the jurisdiction of the Board of Supervisors. Board members may not discuss items that are not specifically identified on the agenda. Therefore, pursuant to Arizona Revised Statute §-431.01(I), at the conclusion of an open call to the public, individual members of the Board of Supervisors may respond to criticism made by those who have addressed the Board, may ask staff to review a matter or may ask that a matter be put on a future agenda for further discussion and decision at a future date.
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OK. Well, good morning, everyone. 00:00:00
I'd like to call this meeting to order. It is a work session, so I would encourage these supervisors to speak up. 00:00:03
When they wished. 00:00:09
During any presentation. 00:00:10
July 29th it's just a hair after 10:00. 00:00:13
I've asked though we. 00:00:16
From uh. 00:00:18
The CSA to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance this morning, if you would stand. 00:00:19
Thank you. Thank you. 00:00:32
OK, so. 00:00:47
Our first item today. 00:00:49
I'll read in a second, but. 00:00:51
Involves the. 00:00:53
County supervisors association. 00:00:55
OK. And with us today we have. 00:00:57
Zoe, who led our pledge and we also have. 00:01:00
And we have Craig. 00:01:03
And then we have the president of the CSA currently serving. 00:01:05
From Yuma County. 00:01:09
And crazy. 00:01:11
And so let me go ahead and read the item and then we can get started on the presentation. 00:01:13
Are you going to be up first to say a few words? 00:01:19
OK. Item 2A is information Discussion on the activities of the County Supervisors Association by Craig Sullivan. 00:01:21
The CSA executive director. 00:01:29
Including the discussion of recent legislative. 00:01:30
Activities. 00:01:33
Supervisor, please come. Come on up. 00:01:35
It's a pleasure to have you. 00:01:37
Welcome to the greatest county in Arizona. 00:01:39
I have to disagree because I. 00:01:42
Love Yuma but. 00:01:47
I don't need one. 00:01:53
I'm just gonna. 00:01:58
Say a few words, but. 00:01:59
You it was beautiful drive up here and it went. 00:02:01
From 100 to 90 to 80. 00:02:05
It was kind of nice coming up the hill, so. 00:02:09
So thank you. 00:02:12
Now, have you been to the northern part of Hewlett County? 00:02:13
Payson yes, OK. So we have a very large diverse. 00:02:17
Yeah, I was going to say yeah. 00:02:23
You're pretty pleased with it. 00:02:25
I think so too. It is beautiful. 00:02:26
I have to say. 00:02:29
And spinning the. 00:02:30
Summers up there might be nice. 00:02:32
Instead of Puma in fact. 00:02:34
Anybody from Yuma who can afford it? 00:02:36
Have places up in pace and. 00:02:39
All those places where they. 00:02:42
Try to get away from We appreciate your support heat. 00:02:44
Yes. 00:02:47
Well, good morning. 00:02:48
Morning. 00:02:50
Members of the board. 00:02:51
It's very nice to be here today and in Gila County. 00:02:54
I'm Lynn Pancrezi. 00:02:58
I am a county supervisor in Yuma County and currently yours. 00:02:59
President for CSA. 00:03:04
I wanted to thank you for your involvement in CSA. 00:03:07
The partnership that we have between the counties. 00:03:12
And CSA. 00:03:15
Makes our organization and our counties work so. 00:03:17
Much, uh. 00:03:21
More effectively. 00:03:22
So. 00:03:23
Grateful for your. 00:03:25
Participation, in fact. 00:03:26
The we have a lot in common. 00:03:27
In rural Arizona. 00:03:31
So, umm. 00:03:33
Supervisor or chairman? 00:03:36
Christensen, thank you for serving on the Legislative Policy Committee Board. 00:03:37
That meets. 00:03:42
For those who don't know, every Friday, well, well. 00:03:44
The Legislature is in session and. 00:03:48
With the young man back here, Jacob. 00:03:51
Well, everybody's young for me. But anyway with the young man back there, Jacob, who is our legislative. 00:03:54
There is on for CSA. 00:04:01
He not only. 00:04:04
Fights for bills to be. 00:04:05
Past to be. 00:04:08
Denied, but he also worked to have them amended. 00:04:11
That are going to impact the counties and. 00:04:15
With your involvement on. 00:04:18
Legislate College Committee, we. 00:04:20
We vote on what we're going to take our positions on. 00:04:23
So that's a very big important position. Thank you for your service. 00:04:26
Oh yes. 00:04:31
Supervisor Klein. 00:04:34
Thank you for serving. 00:04:35
On the western Interstate region. 00:04:38
I have to tell you, I got to give him a hug at Mako the other day because he presented a. 00:04:40
Resolution. 00:04:45
At the NACO convention. 00:04:47
And AG and rural affairs that usually goes in public lands, so. 00:04:49
Thank you. 00:04:53
That was very good. Thank you. Yes, and. 00:04:54
So. 00:04:57
Thank you for. 00:05:00
And you have one coming up, don't you? 00:05:01
Oh yeah, enjoy. 00:05:03
Umm, finally. 00:05:06
James, Linda. 00:05:08
You know he has been to as many of these oil. 00:05:09
Probably more of the county Board of Supervisor meetings around the state. 00:05:12
As I have because he serves. 00:05:17
As the chair of the county. 00:05:20
Managers and Administrators Association, thank you. 00:05:21
And we work very closely with those folks because. 00:05:25
They help manage our. 00:05:29
Our counties and. 00:05:31
Thank you for coming. It's. 00:05:33
For those now. 00:05:34
The. 00:05:36
CSA, we've already introduced them, but. 00:05:37
More screen. Oh, it's nice of him. 00:05:40
What we've already introduced Jacob and then there's Zoe, who is our researcher and. 00:05:43
There's a lot of the statistics you find to help us manage our county. 00:05:49
She is. 00:05:55
Just amazing. You can ask her anything about the research and she can. 00:05:56
She can find it just like that. I don't know about you guys, but computers and finding stuff. 00:06:01
Is not what I do best. 00:06:07
But it is what she does best and she is amazing at it. 00:06:09
Thank you. 00:06:13
And she's an import from. 00:06:14
Maid so she. 00:06:16
Yes, she was enjoying the trip. She's a convert. 00:06:19
Uh-huh, yes, she is enjoying the trip up here and. 00:06:21
Seeing a part of Arizona she hadn't seen yet so. 00:06:25
Yeah, it was nice. 00:06:29
Now before I continue, I wanna. 00:06:31
You have a plug for the CSA Legislative Convention. 00:06:33
In Yuma this year. 00:06:39
October 29th and 28th through the 30th. 00:06:42
We have a. 00:06:46
Haunt a tour of. 00:06:47
The Yuma Territorial Prison. 00:06:50
And uh. 00:06:52
And of course. 00:06:53
We'll go over all those legislative positions. 00:06:54
Different counties want to do it's our very, very. 00:06:58
Most important meeting of the year so. 00:07:01
I hope to see you guys there. 00:07:04
And enjoy the weather, it should be beautiful. 00:07:06
Then keep my fingers scrubbed. 00:07:08
And without any further ado. 00:07:11
I want to introduce Craig. 00:07:13
Everybody knows Craig. Craig. 00:07:16
Is the reason CSA? 00:07:19
Is so effective. 00:07:21
And helpful. 00:07:24
To the counties because of his leadership. 00:07:26
And what's that he's going to tell you guys? All the stuff we got done this year. 00:07:29
Thank you, Madam President. 00:07:34
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and members of the Board. It's a. 00:07:37
Pleasure to be with you today. For the record, my name is Craig Sullivan, County Supervisors Association of. 00:07:40
Grateful that the president could join us and. 00:07:45
Some of our team members to participate in this work session. 00:07:47
But just to begin, I want to go with. 00:07:51
President said about. 00:07:53
Our appreciation for your partnership and our association. 00:07:54
We're deeply grateful for your involvement. 00:07:58
We feel very integrated with this county. 00:08:00
In many ways, because of the good work that your county manager does working with us to. 00:08:03
Chair the County Managers Association. 00:08:07
And we really, really are grateful to be a part of your staff just face down. 00:08:10
Phoenix, and I want to extend my appreciation to your. 00:08:14
Contract consultants is what? 00:08:17
Well, Andy Jacobs and Todd Bowman. 00:08:19
They're great partners with us and we're all really. 00:08:21
On Team County Team Gila County. 00:08:23
And I think it's a real fun place to work and. 00:08:26
We're grateful for the opportunity to be in this workshop with you all so. 00:08:28
This is kind of the little opening that I wanted to share and express our gratitude. 00:08:33
But I do want to spend a little bit of time. 00:08:37
Talking about the association. 00:08:39
And I've given you some content to look at. 00:08:41
1 is a portfolio of work product. 00:08:43
That you all have that will help you. 00:08:47
Kind of get a sense of the visualizations and data mining that we do. 00:08:49
To support the counties. 00:08:53
Across the multitude of policy areas that you all work with. 00:08:55
I also put together a slide deck that is a report. 00:08:59
And it's got a lot of content and. 00:09:02
In it, Mr. Chairman, but I'm just going to hit some of the highlights. 00:09:04
So that we can get to the. 00:09:07
Conversational part of the work session. 00:09:09
So with your permission, I'll just start scanning through some of this. 00:09:12
But I'm happy to stop if you have any questions. Yeah, well, it's a work session, yeah. 00:09:15
Yeah, exactly. 00:09:21
So let me just begin with. 00:09:22
For the folks who are here who are not familiar with our organization. 00:09:24
Who we are. 00:09:28
The county supervised association is just a collaboration of the 15 counties. 00:09:29
Were nonpartisan. 00:09:33
We do research and policy work. 00:09:35
And we exist to help support decision making. 00:09:37
At the county level, the state level and the federal. 00:09:40
And supervisors have been doing this as long as we've had. 00:09:43
The earliest minutes we have of the associated county supervisors coming together. 00:09:47
Was in 1913. 00:09:52
And it won't shock you. They were talking about roads. 00:09:54
They were talking about indigent care. 00:09:57
The world hasn't changed too much in what we have to do to serve the public. 00:09:59
With the scope of. 00:10:03
That's why we exist. 00:10:04
And we're really proud of the collaboration we have. 00:10:06
Or supervisor driven. 00:10:09
So all 61 supervisors serve on our Board of Directors. 00:10:10
We do have a legislative Policy Committee, Mr. Chairman, thanks for serving on that with us. 00:10:14
And it's really how we feel get really integrated with all of you. 00:10:19
I know every Friday morning through. 00:10:23
Is a lot, but thank you for your extra time. 00:10:25
You're welcome. 00:10:28
So we'll move into some of the reports. 00:10:30
What I did here is just compiled. 00:10:32
Some activities where we use the organization. 00:10:35
Forum in an intergovernmental office for the county so you can see a list. 00:10:38
Of the speakers that came by to visit with the supervisors last year. 00:10:42
In our board meetings. 00:10:46
Policy professionals, Elected leaders. Other technical experts. 00:10:48
We also serve on behalf of the counties on various task forces, so we are regularly being plugged in. 00:10:52
So work groups or task forces. 00:10:59
On your behalf. 00:11:01
To make it a little more efficient for counties to be involved. 00:11:02
And you can see on the left some of the major ones. 00:11:05
That were plugged in there. 00:11:08
Spending a lot of time on the PRS pension system for. 00:11:10
Obvious reasons having to stabilize it. 00:11:14
Pay down the debt and now making sure that there's good governance. 00:11:17
Going forward. 00:11:20
We also meet. 00:11:22
Regularly with the what we call affiliate groups. 00:11:23
So I must mention Mr. Menlo chairs our managers group. 00:11:26
Monthly meeting We sit around the table. We workshop policy issues and operational issues. 00:11:30
It's the same thing in the other. 00:11:35
Affiliates, Planning directors, Finance directors. 00:11:37
Where we just try to create a strong collaboration. 00:11:40
Among all the counties, even at the professional step. 00:11:43
So that's something we really enjoy and there's a lot of work that goes on in that space. 00:11:47
The next few slides are going to highlight what. 00:11:52
Is our analytics function. 00:11:54
And you all know that. 00:11:57
Good decisions require good information. 00:11:58
And so our data team spends a lot of time building out a foundational database of information. 00:12:02
That we can then bring forward. 00:12:08
In terms of analysis. 00:12:10
Our database is about 8 million data points now. 00:12:12
What we do is every year. 00:12:15
We set a plan where we're importing new information. 00:12:16
And then we do that on an annual basis. So what am I talking? 00:12:20
Publicly available. 00:12:23
Information in state agencies. 00:12:25
Department of Revenue. 00:12:27
Access. 00:12:28
Transportation. 00:12:29
County budget information. We just start bringing it all in. 00:12:31
And then we're able to work with it. 00:12:34
And it helps us but. 00:12:36
Good visualizations together. 00:12:37
On county policy issues and so it's a lot of fun. 00:12:39
And it underscores or undergirds everything that we do. 00:12:42
The next few slides will show you how it plugs in and some of the products that we're able to. 00:12:47
Liver there so we focus on how county government. 00:12:52
Works, and that's across all manner of functions. You know that we have every responsibilities. 00:12:55
In the court system. 00:13:01
State health care. 00:13:03
And then of course, all the various state mandates that you provide. 00:13:05
We've been digging into how certain policies impact county operations. 00:13:09
And so we've done some specific analysis into the indigent healthcare system. 00:13:14
Along the border to see how policies. 00:13:18
Have been driving costs in their criminal justice system. 00:13:21
And we've been looking at some other policy areas as you see here. 00:13:24
And we've been spending a fair amount of time on what's happening in the public. 00:13:28
Workforce and this is where we've been doing partnerships with. 00:13:32
The Arizona Board of Regents to get research help. 00:13:36
To look into. 00:13:39
The public workforce, largely in public safety and detention. 00:13:41
How counties managed mandated functions. One of the interesting things about the. 00:13:47
Is there? 00:13:51
In the constitution, and they're delegated to Serbs constituents on a regional basis. 00:13:53
And we've all grown up 15 different ways. 00:13:58
So some of what we've been doing in this space is breaking down those silos to say. 00:14:01
But what is happening across these different functions? How are we doing things differently? 00:14:06
Where their commonalities? 00:14:11
And that's been helping out. Just get it. 00:14:13
Getting better eyes into the county system. 00:14:15
One project we're working on now with Arizona State University is related to procurement. 00:14:18
And how we can do that? 00:14:23
Function more efficiently and effectively going forward. 00:14:25
And we're hopeful to have a neat project coming out. 00:14:29
Later in the fall related to that. 00:14:32
So on the data analytics side, and this shows you some of the products that we put. 00:14:36
Without a lot of this is on our website. 00:14:39
But what we're finding is that we're struggling to take. 00:14:43
This mountain of information and get it out in a digestible way. 00:14:46
So right now we are reconfiguring our website. 00:14:50
And working through how to make this more available to you. 00:14:53
Your managers and program folks have accessed this stuff and work with us. 00:14:57
We want to get it out to the public. 00:15:01
And so know that we're hopeful. Well, we know that in the fall. 00:15:03
We'll have a nice new reconfiguration where you'll be able to get into the. 00:15:07
Database you'll be able to look at county tax rates, special districts. 00:15:10
Any manner of information? 00:15:14
And help and help. 00:15:16
Just inform your own kind of understanding of county government. 00:15:18
That doesn't mean you can't. 00:15:21
You know you can stop calling us because we love hearing from you. 00:15:23
When we can mine it for you, but I think it'll be very helpful in that. 00:15:27
Regard. 00:15:30
Now the next few slides are about the Legislature and. 00:15:33
I'm not going to do it fully, fully justice and how we work. 00:15:35
On your behalf as an intergovernmental office. 00:15:40
Because it would take. 00:15:42
The balance of an hour and a half. 00:15:43
But what you should know is this. 00:15:45
There are hundreds of bills that touch county operations that come into the process every year. 00:15:47
And what our team does is we scour all those and we get your direction on what you would like to do. 00:15:53
Support Oppose Amend. 00:15:59
And then we go work with lawmakers to do that. 00:16:01
Overwhelmingly what we're trying to do as an association. 00:16:03
Is help the counties deal. 00:16:06
With the 90. 00:16:08
5% of bills. 00:16:10
That affect really everything. 00:16:11
And how can we? 00:16:13
Efficiently engage those. 00:16:14
Umm, so. 00:16:16
As part of that, we are involved in the budget conversation. 00:16:18
So I put a few slides here related. 00:16:21
Budget this slide shows. 00:16:24
The various policy areas that they put one time. 00:16:26
Now what they did is they came up with an agreement to really just allocate one time money and then. 00:16:30
Put those in initiatives that the governor and and. 00:16:36
And members want it. 00:16:39
What that led to is a situation where $900 million of money was allocated. 00:16:41
Very little of that was on an ongoing basis. 00:16:46
Now why does that matter? 00:16:50
Because problems usually require ongoing solutions. 00:16:51
It's good to have one time money. You can do roads, you can do other types of improvements. 00:16:55
That there are issues that have to be solved on a one time basis, so I'm going to highlight some of those in a minute. 00:17:00
But if you look in fiscal year 2027. 00:17:05
On the ending, balance the red box that I put there for you. 00:17:08
What this shows you is that the state really spent down all its cash. 00:17:12
Going into the next fiscal year. 00:17:17
Right. And so if the economy swings up, that's not a big issue. 00:17:19
If it swings down. 00:17:22
It'll make things a little bit tight. 00:17:24
As they start onboarding some of these federal. 00:17:26
Programs that have been modified. 00:17:29
Medicaid SNAP. 00:17:31
That's going to affect that bottom line and so that's something on the horizon. 00:17:33
That we're all going to have to pay attention to. 00:17:37
What's the states financial situation? 00:17:39
As they have to address. 00:17:41
Medicaid costs. 00:17:43
And snap cost to the extent they want to address those. 00:17:45
Since they did a lot of one time money, they allocated it across. 00:17:50
All manner of things and these are just issues where the state. 00:17:54
Put their priorities. 00:17:57
Stipends for correction officers. 00:17:59
Law enforcement pay raises. 00:18:01
Various capital projects. 00:18:03
Child care support, that was a big issue for the governor. 00:18:06
And then a lot of local project allocations. 00:18:09
Now these are some items that we cared about. 00:18:13
In the budget. So let me just spend a little bit of time. 00:18:16
I mentioned that they didn't solve ongoing problems very significantly. 00:18:21
A lot of our items which are the state, county financial relationship. 00:18:26
Need to be solved on an ongoing basis. 00:18:30
So this year they are funding what they owe the probation officer. 00:18:33
Out of federal money for a fiscal year. 00:18:38
This is for raises that have been given in the last few years. 00:18:41
But that wasn't done on going. 00:18:44
So in the next fiscal year? 00:18:46
The state's going to have to solve the resources that need to be made available. 00:18:48
For probation. 00:18:52
Probation officers or officers? 00:18:53
Their state employees. 00:18:55
Obviously they operate here locally. 00:18:57
We were able to make modifications to the juvenile dependency fund. 00:18:59
That's listed for you there. 00:19:03
You'll start getting. 00:19:05
Monies on a regular basis coming out of that. That's something Jacob worked on. 00:19:06
Significantly. 00:19:11
The state did make the increased appropriation for JP salaries on an ongoing basis. That was important. 00:19:12
For us and then long term care. 00:19:19
The counties pay a significant portion of the state match for the long term care system, we looked at your property tax rate. 00:19:24
A large portion goes right back to the. 00:19:31
To pay for. 00:19:34
The long term care system. 00:19:36
It didn't go up that much this year, which is a good thing. 00:19:37
Went up 10 million statewide. 00:19:41
But as you know, in recent years we've seen double digit increases in that long term care payment. 00:19:43
And in the future, we may see upward pressure there. 00:19:48
And so know that. 00:19:51
That's something that we really have to pay a lot of attention to. 00:19:53
Particularly as they address the Medicaid policy changes. 00:19:56
That they have to put in the statute. 00:20:00
And in the upper right there was a small change related to the. 00:20:02
Correction officers retirement plan. 00:20:06
This is the employer contribution for the defined contribution. 00:20:09
They increased that from 5% to 5 1/2%. 00:20:13
They also allocated monies to defray the local cost. 00:20:17
So that's a good thing. 00:20:21
But we've been a little bit concerned about them just making. 00:20:23
Policy decisions without a. 00:20:26
Multi year vision on what they're trying to do and accomplish and how they're going to resource it. 00:20:28
And I anticipate that that issue is going to continue to be. 00:20:33
An issue going forward. 00:20:36
So I wanted to flag all of those items for you. 00:20:38
These are just other county relevant items that came down the Pike. 00:20:43
And this shows how the legislature allocated. 00:20:48
Money to counties for different things. 00:20:51
And this really came about because of the member driven budget. 00:20:55
Where they said OK members you have X number of dollars. 00:20:58
What would you like to spend it on? 00:21:02
And then it starts materializing. 00:21:04
Across many stakeholders. 00:21:06
In county land. 00:21:08
This is how it looked. 00:21:09
The good thing about it is that it does bring dollars to counties that have. 00:21:11
Projects that they may want, but the. 00:21:15
Bad thing about it is. 00:21:16
We're not looking at needs across the state. 00:21:18
Right, it's really about. 00:21:20
What members are willing to make particular asks? 00:21:22
And you can see that disparity. 00:21:26
Across these local distributions. 00:21:28
So how can we change these? 00:21:33
Is there a way to change these numbers? That's a great question. 00:21:36
I think how counties choose to make requests of their members. 00:21:40
Is what influences. 00:21:45
That allocation. 00:21:46
And then members executing on them. 00:21:48
And so I know one of the conversations is. 00:21:50
To the extent there's one time money. 00:21:53
In the budget for next year. 00:21:55
What are Gila County's priorities? 00:21:57
And where do you want to look at? 00:21:59
Trying to position yourself. 00:22:01
I think that's the way to influence that, Mr. Chairman. 00:22:02
Thank you. 00:22:06
So moving on to just bills. 00:22:10
We always take bills in from the counties and we'll run some. These are the bills that we ran this year. 00:22:12
What's the common theme? Basic government. 00:22:18
Right, we had to re. 00:22:20
Authorized the waste higher fund. 00:22:21
Deal with Sanitarium's qualifications. That's something we worked on with Gila County. 00:22:24
Post conviction, capital relief, things like that. 00:22:29
Important basic government stuff that we do. 00:22:31
Run this slide just highlights some of the reactive advocacy what I'm talking about that. 00:22:34
I'm talking about just bills that are put in the process and then we have to deal with them. 00:22:40
Jacob spends an enormous amount of time in stakeholder meetings. 00:22:45
This just gives you a menu of the areas. 00:22:48
That we were working on. 00:22:51
This is more about bills that actually happen. 00:22:53
So we just recently distributed a summary of all the bills that passed the Touch County operations. 00:22:57
There are 70 pages worth. 00:23:02
So there's a lot. 00:23:05
This is just kind of a sampling. 00:23:06
Couple of things that I'll highlight here. 00:23:08
Policy changes related to accessory dwelling units in your. 00:23:11
Development Services Department. 00:23:16
You'll want to have your team look at that. 00:23:18
Policy changes related to the auditing of the Treasurer's office. 00:23:21
That comes about because of the. 00:23:25
Criminal activity that occurred with the treasurer in Santa Cruz County. 00:23:27
We supported it. 00:23:31
It's going to be important plus up. 00:23:32
And other things that kind of came down the pipe. 00:23:34
Mr. Chairman, since you spent so much time with us on our LPC, I want to take a stab at. 00:23:42
Telling you you didn't waste your time, so I tried to quantify. 00:23:46
Just some of that activity. 00:23:49
To give you a sense of the volume of bills that went through that process and you participated in providing guidance. 00:23:51
Your professional staff for giving us insight. 00:23:57
Into it, there's just a lot of work that goes on to it. 00:24:00
And I'm really proud of the fact that Caitlin and Jacob. 00:24:03
Testified. 00:24:06
Close to 40 times this year, so that's getting out there. 00:24:08
And getting the message out as it relates to your priorities. 00:24:11
And the amount of. 00:24:14
Coverage they did. 00:24:15
To meet all the new legislators and then work with. 00:24:17
The incumbents. 00:24:20
Was pretty significant this year, so they really hustled and. 00:24:22
Burned a lot of shoe leather to just get out there and share the county perspective. 00:24:25
These are the reports that are coming out to close the session. 00:24:32
We are very grateful that we have finally wrapped up those reports, but. 00:24:36
I'll tell you the reward for doing that. 00:24:40
Is that we got to start planning all over again for next session. We don't. 00:24:43
We don't give much of a break to that. 00:24:47
And the president talked about how we are going to get this, do this all again. 00:24:50
We're going to start meeting in September, right? We'll have our managers meetings. 00:24:54
Our summit. 00:24:57
Where we set our agenda is in October in Yuma. 00:24:59
If you have policy items, and I know we've already received one. 00:25:02
Get those to us by the 4th. 00:25:06
Mr. Menlove and his colleagues are going to. 00:25:08
Process all the issues that are coming up. 00:25:10
A week from Friday. 00:25:13
When we get together. 00:25:14
And we'll just start. 00:25:15
Rolling and get everything plugged in. 00:25:17
So we can be ready for the next legislative session. 00:25:19
So, Mr. Chairman, that's what I wanted to share and I know I went kind of fast over a lot of information. 00:25:22
But I want to thank you again. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Thank you, Craig. Yeah, really great presentation. So we'll 00:25:27
just. 00:25:30
Open it up for discussion. Supervisor Humphrey, you want to. 00:25:34
It started, yeah, I I don't have any question. 00:25:37
I just appreciate all you do. I mean, we're only as good as our information and you have. 00:25:40
An awful lot of information and continue to keep gathering it. 00:25:46
And and you know, there's always. 00:25:50
Numbers make a big difference and so. 00:25:53
You working for all the counties makes a big difference because I don't know how we would function. 00:25:56
Without CSA so. 00:26:02
Thank you. 00:26:04
Thank you and your staff for all you do for. 00:26:06
Of counties, especially the rural onesies. 00:26:09
Thank you very much. 00:26:13
Craig, thank you and. 00:26:15
Thanks for the. 00:26:16
Everybody that's helping you there. 00:26:18
Tremendous amount of help. 00:26:21
One question I had. 00:26:23
For you just real quick and I know it's a deep subject, but our water issues in the state. 00:26:24
Have you got any just? 00:26:30
Quick update or. 00:26:32
Recap of where we're at with any of that right now. 00:26:34
Yeah, thanks, Mr. Chairman. So a couple of things. 00:26:37
There were some policy changes that occurred this year. 00:26:40
Largely active management related active management area. 00:26:43
Related policies. 00:26:47
Existing regulated areas. The big one was something called. 00:26:48
Agni Urban, which is about transitioning. 00:26:51
Aggrieved. 00:26:54
The rural conversation, there's been no resolution. 00:26:56
To the disagreements that are on the table now. 00:27:00
There's been. 00:27:02
Very well now. 00:27:04
A significant amount of meetings on some type of rural regulatory structure. 00:27:05
That would be customized to various basins. 00:27:11
There's strong opinions on both sides of that. 00:27:14
The governor had advanced a policy. 00:27:16
Chairwoman Griffin had advanced a different policy. 00:27:19
There was no progress on those items. 00:27:22
So I anticipate that those issues will continue to be a point of conversation. 00:27:24
All of the bills and I could be wrong. 00:27:29
That I'm seeing pass have to do with active management area. 00:27:31
Related. 00:27:34
Yeah, that's right. 00:27:36
Thank you, Craig. That continues to be a real. 00:27:38
Real important, uh, subject for us. 00:27:41
Up here so. 00:27:44
Absolutely. 00:27:46
But thank you for everything you guys do You're awesome. 00:27:47
You're I don't know. 00:27:50
I didn't realize that it all started way back in. 00:27:52
13. 00:27:55
That's amazing to me. But. 00:27:56
What a concept and what a. 00:27:58
Progress it's been. 00:28:00
Mr. was pretty remarkable when we came across those minutes and I and I had a sense of fatalism because I'm like. 00:28:02
These issues will long outlast me too. 00:28:08
But I was pretty proud to just see that that's the value of you coming together with your colleagues. Folks have been doing it 00:28:13
since the beginning. 00:28:16
Well, thank you so much and it's good to have you guys here. 00:28:21
Thank you, Craig, and. 00:28:25
I suppose our manager wants to say something, but. 00:28:26
I will say it's a real pleasure to serve on the Legislative Policy Committee. 00:28:29
And if you have not done that, the. 00:28:34
It's a little eye opening that the quality of bills that are presented, it's a. 00:28:37
We don't review every single one. 00:28:43
And so it's filtered. 00:28:45
Down to those that affect the counties the most. 00:28:47
And it's surprising how many actually come through that. 00:28:50
Would have a rather negative effect for counties their income. 00:28:56
And their ability to keep going. So you're in. 00:29:00
The county that has the least amount of public land. 00:29:03
3 1/2 percent. 00:29:06
And so we're not. 00:29:08
A wealthy county. 00:29:09
But we have, we're managing and we're doing well, but we don't need umm. 00:29:11
To have income reduced through the assessor's officer. 00:29:16
Appraisals or all the other things that seem to be coming through. 00:29:21
And sometimes pass. 00:29:24
We do have a governor, that is. 00:29:26
Vetoes A tremendous amount. 00:29:28
Record-breaking. 00:29:31
Mouse and. 00:29:32
So as the Legislature. 00:29:34
Comes with bills that. 00:29:36
You make sense. A lot of times they never make it. 00:29:38
Too long. 00:29:40
As well. 00:29:41
And so that's the political side of things and I really appreciate. 00:29:42
You and your staff, and there's several people that are not here that are on your staff. 00:29:46
For this. 00:29:52
Non political. 00:29:55
Approach that you take. 00:29:57
Because we do have various. 00:29:58
Viewpoints throughout all the different counties. 00:30:02
And I don't see that so prevalently. We don't really. 00:30:05
Discuss politics as much as we discuss. 00:30:08
Policies that are good for the county and the people. 00:30:11
And I really appreciate that and the way you guys present everything we could not. 00:30:15
Do it without you. 00:30:19
I think that's obvious, so. 00:30:21
I thank you very much for being here today. Well, it's our pleasure and thanks for the observation on how we operate our business 00:30:23
because we do be ourselves as we're focusing on. 00:30:28
Operations and resources in the county. 00:30:32
In the county portfolio? 00:30:35
And politics is not. 00:30:37
What? We're playing it. 00:30:38
And you balance that very well. 00:30:40
So Mr. 00:30:42
Mr. Chairman, thank you, Craig. 00:30:44
Thank you to your team and all that you do. 00:30:46
It's tremendous. 00:30:48
I was reviewing over the weekend. 00:30:49
The Jacob's report. 00:30:52
7080 pages or whatever it was and. 00:30:54
Tremendous content, tremendous detail of what? 00:30:57
Happened over the last six months. 00:31:00
And there was a lot. 00:31:02
Thank you to you and all of your team. 00:31:03
I would like to at some point follow up on what through by the Christians. 00:31:06
Chairman Christians Christensen touched on of the. 00:31:10
Specific appropriations and I. 00:31:14
As an accountant, I kind of focus on the financial end of things and. 00:31:16
Look the several pages and allocations to different. 00:31:20
Counties. 00:31:23
And. 00:31:24
Representative Marshall He. 00:31:28
Comes to us at the beginning of the session. Says what needs. 00:31:30
And we're. 00:31:33
They ask you first to give them a list. 00:31:35
Became a list of mostly public safety. 00:31:37
Type of things we get. 00:31:39
Those things and so. 00:31:41
And you touched on that, that doesn't necessarily. 00:31:43
Move us collectively. 00:31:49
As a state. 00:31:51
15 counties. 00:31:52
Together and. 00:31:53
I'd like to have that discussion with you and your team. 00:31:54
Perhaps with the county managers. 00:31:58
Sure, how about it back? 00:32:00
Impact us and. 00:32:02
And just a further discussion. 00:32:03
On that. 00:32:05
Because I know that our representatives are going to ask us for that list again and. 00:32:06
How does that work? 00:32:10
No, happy to do that. We'll add that. 00:32:12
For the agenda for this, yeah. 00:32:14
And look forward to working with you and President Matt Benkozzi. Thank you for coming to Gila County. 00:32:16
We really appreciate and your service to. 00:32:21
That you give to all of us, including. 00:32:24
Thanks for being here. 00:32:26
Mr. Chairman, thank you. OK, thank you. And if there's nothing else? 00:32:29
And thank you, Craig. 00:32:32
They appreciate it. 00:32:34
Thank you. All right. 00:32:35
Let's move on to item 2B, information discussion with Andy Jacobs. 00:32:37
Begum of the Policy Development Group to review the timeline of the upcoming Arizona. 00:32:43
Legislative Session. 00:32:48
And explore potential legislative. 00:32:50
Submissions on behalf of. 00:32:54
Even county to address key issues. 00:32:55
Of concern, I'll turn it over to Mr. Menlo. 00:32:58
Mr. Chairman, as was noted at the end of Craig's. 00:33:00
Presentation that August 4th is. 00:33:04
A deadline for us to inform CSA of. 00:33:06
Issues that we want to be have taken through. 00:33:09
The body at our summit in October. The end of October. 00:33:12
And so this today is to have that discussion. 00:33:16
With Andy and Todd. 00:33:19
To present them give. 00:33:21
Had that discussion on what issues do we have in. 00:33:23
In new accounting that we need to have addressed potentially discuss. 00:33:26
And potentially taken through the state legislature in the next. 00:33:29
Session beginning in January. 00:33:32
So without further ado, Mr. Chairman. 00:33:35
I thought any. 00:33:38
Thank you. 00:33:41
Good morning. 00:33:43
Good morning, Christensen and. 00:33:44
Board members. 00:33:47
Andy Jacobs of Policy Development Group. 00:33:48
I'm here with Todd Bowman, my colleague. 00:33:51
I'll try to kick it off and if I'm missing anything I can. 00:33:53
Can come fill me in? 00:33:56
Pulling you guys in. 00:33:58
But I think. 00:34:00
Kind of what we wanted to do today was. 00:34:01
Piggyback a little bit off of the CSA folks, they do a great job of. 00:34:03
Covering what went down this session. 00:34:07
But this is our Todd Nice. 00:34:10
5th year we're in with with Yula County and. 00:34:12
We've really enjoyed working. 00:34:15
For the county, you guys have a. 00:34:16
A diverse. 00:34:18
County a lot going on and. 00:34:20
We like this opportunity to explain to the public. 00:34:23
What we do on your behalf, and I think the bottom line is. 00:34:27
We just try to. 00:34:31
Fill ourselves in as an extension of. 00:34:33
Of you. 00:34:36
Mr. Menrov and so. 00:34:37
When we're down there and. 00:34:39
Tried explaining about the thousands and hundreds of bills and. 00:34:41
That get put up and passed and vetoed. 00:34:44
These things happen very quickly. 00:34:48
Being down in Phoenix is not always the easiest for you guys. 00:34:51
And so for Tom and I to be down there and be in the midst of that. 00:34:54
That's what we're trying to do for you and so. 00:34:59
Having uh. 00:35:01
Been doing this for y'all for a few years now. We thought we. 00:35:02
Highlight some of the. 00:35:05
Classes we've had and. 00:35:06
And talk about a few things that we. 00:35:08
That we helped to succeed in the future. 00:35:10
So, and I do want to say. 00:35:12
On behalf of CSA. 00:35:15
Supervisor Karen Krause, and thank you for coming. Coming all the way up here. 00:35:18
And dragging Jacob and Zoe. 00:35:22
Tom and I had lunch with Jacob. 00:35:25
Few weeks ago, right? I think it was the last week of session and. 00:35:27
I'm sure Jacob had a million days. 00:35:31
Needed to do and get done, but he. 00:35:33
Took the time out of his day to come talk healing county priorities with us so. 00:35:35
Great partner and. 00:35:39
Appreciate y'all coming here and. 00:35:41
And everything you do for your county. 00:35:43
So just a. 00:35:48
High level overview of. 00:35:49
Of some of the things that Todd and I engage on, Healing County on behalf of is working with. 00:35:51
With you all the supervisors. 00:35:56
With Mr. Men love and. 00:35:57
And staff try to be that extension of staff where? 00:35:59
Where and when we can. 00:36:02
Work with CSA obviously. 00:36:04
ECO and other groups that represent. 00:36:06
Counties as a whole. 00:36:08
The governor and her staff. 00:36:11
I guess we're in our second governor now working with you guys. 00:36:13
Governor Ducey and now Governor Hobbs. 00:36:17
We've worked with. 00:36:19
Several of the departments. 00:36:21
At the state level. 00:36:23
Veterans Forestry. 00:36:24
A dot different. 00:36:26
Several others. 00:36:28
And working with other. 00:36:30
Key stakeholders SRP some of the utilities. 00:36:32
Other folks in the private sector, I know we were out. 00:36:35
On the Kragen project with the SRP folks. 00:36:39
And something you are. And then obviously key legislators I think we've had. 00:36:42
Great relationships with. 00:36:47
With the folks who represent you down at the legislature. 00:36:49
Like Mr. Menlo have mentioned, we try to get them out here. 00:36:52
Every year and go through what your priorities are. 00:36:55
And the politics are, you know, always going to be. 00:37:00
Factor. And so we have to. 00:37:04
Navigate that, but I think in general. 00:37:06
Your representation. 00:37:08
Pretty, pretty good over the last few years. 00:37:09
I don't think we need to go too in depth here since Craig went through most of this. 00:37:14
But yeah, we've got the 280. 00:37:20
1000. 00:37:22
That Craig highlighted for the Sheriff's Department. 00:37:24
We do have. We did have another record. 00:37:28
Number of vetoes is one of you mentioned earlier. 00:37:30
Where we got 174. 00:37:33
Last year. 00:37:35
Versus 2023, there was 143, which was the record at that time, so. 00:37:37
We are, we are in a divided situation and this year on the budget that actually. 00:37:42
Became even more unique where? 00:37:46
The Senate and the governor worked together to hammer out a budget. The House had their own. 00:37:48
So you had a housing Senate that are Republican? 00:37:53
And a governor who's Democrat. 00:37:55
And one chamber works with the. 00:37:57
With the opposite party governor. 00:37:59
The other chamber. 00:38:01
Did their own thing and they had to resolve that. 00:38:02
And that's why some of these things. 00:38:05
They either slip through the cracks or they can't get it done in time or. 00:38:07
Some things we get in right. 00:38:11
Under the wire, which we'll talk a little bit about. 00:38:13
Craig mentioned the add to Urban Bill. 00:38:18
Todd and I have. 00:38:20
Sad in many of those world groundwater reform meetings. 00:38:22
I think Supervisor Christensen was in some of those meetings, I think. 00:38:25
Supervisor client has been in a few. 00:38:30
But that's something that. 00:38:32
Next session we will be. 00:38:33
Continue to be engaged on. 00:38:35
There hasn't been any agreement, as Craig mentioned on. 00:38:37
Particularly rural. 00:38:41
Areas like Healey. 00:38:43
They tend to be focused on some of the other issues, but I think our message. 00:38:45
In those meetings has been rural control. 00:38:49
Local control is of the utmost importance to. 00:38:52
You free and the county. 00:38:55
Education. 00:39:00
Empowerment accounts, those are still in even though the governor has. 00:39:01
Set it for a priority to. 00:39:05
To do away with us. So that's something. 00:39:07
You know that folks keep keep their eye on and we'll see how things play out. 00:39:10
Next year's elections, but this year? 00:39:14
The yes eyes are still there. 00:39:16
One interesting component of. 00:39:19
Couple years is the. 00:39:21
Committee. It's a Senate committee. 00:39:23
That was put there was formed to. 00:39:25
Focus on confirming. 00:39:28
Agency heads. 00:39:30
And directors so. 00:39:31
That's been a very tough committee. 00:39:34
Led by Senator Hoffman. 00:39:36
And, umm. 00:39:38
The governor is still. 00:39:39
3rd year going into her fourth year. 00:39:41
Still has some some folks in limbo, so it can be frustrating when you're dealing with. 00:39:43
When you're in the private sector and you're dealing with an agency that doesn't have. 00:39:48
And have that leadership in place. So that's something that. 00:39:51
You know, the governor's had to deal with over the last. 00:39:54
Few years. 00:39:56
Just this year, the. 00:39:57
Acting directors of Access and DHS. 00:39:59
Actually went through their names from. 00:40:02
From consultation SO. 00:40:05
They're. 00:40:09
Going to have to find. 00:40:10
Your directions there and hopefully get those confirmed from Governor Hobbs perspective. 00:40:11
So, and I'm sure that'll play into the upcoming elections next year as well. 00:40:14
Some of the things we've done over the past few years we'll just go through. 00:40:22
Quick quick highlight list here when we first came on. 00:40:26
Governor Ducey. 00:40:30
And the Legislature had put in. 00:40:31
I think about 100 million. 00:40:33
For some forests. 00:40:35
Health initiatives. 00:40:37
Into the diffum account and that that first year. 00:40:39
You all were able to earmark for over, I think it was like 4.3 million. 00:40:42
Of that money. 00:40:48
I'll basically focus on the Telegraph and Messkow fires. 00:40:49
And in talking with. 00:40:53
Deputy County manager. 00:40:56
Michael Ogresco. 00:40:58
I think we're up over 9,000,000 out of that. 00:40:59
Over the last few years, so. 00:41:02
So that's been a good initiative for the county. 00:41:04
In 3 minutes in. 00:41:07
Fiscal year 2023, so. 00:41:09
In the 2022 timeframe. 00:41:11
We were able to earmark 3. 00:41:14
$3,000,000 of general fund money, two different. 00:41:16
Specifically for the Woodbury fire, so I know. 00:41:20
Some of that mitigation and cleanup efforts. 00:41:23
That was a big help in that regard. 00:41:26
And then last year we worked on. 00:41:29
We help put your staff in touch with the. 00:41:32
Adopt folks on the Arizona Smart. 00:41:35
Fund Grant. 00:41:37
And I think $1,000,000 was put into place there for a study on Russell Rd. So. 00:41:39
I know that. 00:41:45
You guys have worked. 00:41:46
Work for with a dot on that study and. 00:41:47
I think it's. 00:41:50
Progressed far enough down the road where I think. 00:41:50
Ready to keep moving? 00:41:54
Hopefully get that thing reconstructed at some point so. 00:41:56
And then Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat will go into that a little bit. 00:42:00
And then, yeah, there's some of the engagement. 00:42:04
We've worked with different, as I mentioned on the forest. 00:42:06
The State Land Department, I know that there's been some work behind the scenes. We've worked with Mr. Men Love. 00:42:12
And a couple had a couple meetings with state land department to just. 00:42:19
Think through what this process might look like. I know we still have some questions we're working through. 00:42:21
And and hopefully we'll. 00:42:28
We'll be able to get to some kind of resolution there. 00:42:29
If you guys. 00:42:32
Decide to move forward on that initiative. 00:42:33
Adot the smart fund. 00:42:37
There was a. 00:42:39
A little bit of a hiccup this year with the. 00:42:41
A .5 year plan where? 00:42:44
260 State Route 260 Line Springs section. 00:42:46
Was potentially going to be put on the back burner, but I think Mr. Manuel did a good job. 00:42:50
Showing up to that meeting and speaking. 00:42:55
And doing some behind the scenes work to make sure that people understand. 00:42:57
Yes, there's other parts of the state that are growing rapidly and they need these. 00:43:01
These infrastructure. 00:43:04
Injections of money, but. 00:43:06
But so do. 00:43:09
And that's something that, you know, it's been on your guys's radar for quite some time and so. 00:43:10
Hopefully we can. 00:43:14
Keep that rolling with a dot there. 00:43:15
And then the Corporation Commission. 00:43:18
We've had. 00:43:20
You know, part of. 00:43:22
Part of what Todd and I do. 00:43:23
Beyond just going down to the Legislature. 00:43:25
We do like to be that extension and if you. 00:43:28
Anyone from the staff or any of the supervisors call us and say hey. 00:43:30
We got something we need some help on. Can you help us think it through? 00:43:33
We love doing that type of thing and I know there's some franchise agreements. 00:43:37
Issues going on right now and we're working with. 00:43:40
With you all on that and we've reached out. 00:43:43
Preliminarily with. 00:43:46
With the Corporation Commission and some other folks to. 00:43:47
To maybe work through some of those issues, so. 00:43:50
We'll continue to do that. 00:43:53
The world water policy we spoke about and then. 00:43:55
The veterans retreat. 00:43:59
Which originally in fiscal year 2024. 00:44:02
Thanks to Earth. 00:44:06
Representative Marshall. 00:44:08
He was able to really push hard. 00:44:11
And get that $3,000,000 to get. 00:44:13
To get into the budget for. 00:44:15
For you all to be able to do some things with that property. 00:44:16
To allow veterans to come down. 00:44:19
And. 00:44:22
Take part in the. 00:44:23
In the community and take part in that, in that retreat, which is a. 00:44:24
It's really, really quite a beautiful area of the state and. 00:44:28
Some of the buildings have been reported very nicely, so it's. 00:44:32
It's going well. We had a bit of a hiccup this year. Where? 00:44:35
There there may not be the exact. 00:44:40
Language that allows the county to. 00:44:43
Operate the veterans retreat. 00:44:46
And so. 00:44:48
Thanks to Todd. 00:44:49
And some of the folks that. 00:44:51
He he worked with. 00:44:53
Alongside Mr. Love and. 00:44:54
And the supervisors? 00:44:56
We were able to get right under the wire some language and. 00:44:57
The budget. Budget. 00:45:00
Both the House and the Senate. 00:45:02
But get that in before. 00:45:04
Before that. 00:45:06
Finally die happened this year so. 00:45:06
I think we're in pretty good shape with the veterans retreat and. 00:45:09
Of where you know obviously. 00:45:12
Hopefully well in the work. 00:45:14
Work more with you guys and keep that running and. 00:45:15
Keep it growing. 00:45:18
For 2026. 00:45:22
Next year. 00:45:24
It's coming up quick like Craig. 00:45:25
Mentioned earlier these. 00:45:27
These things that seems like we used to. 00:45:28
Have a month off in July but that doesn't really happen anymore and. 00:45:30
We're already working on. 00:45:35
Some of your priorities and I think. 00:45:37
To Craig's point earlier. 00:45:40
The earlier we can get some of these. 00:45:41
Priorities on paper and get them vetted through some of your representatives. 00:45:44
And senators. 00:45:48
The better. So the last bullet point here, we have other funding policy priorities question mark. 00:45:49
I think well. 00:45:55
What time I typically like to do is have a couple of your representatives come up. 00:45:56
Do a work session like today. 00:46:00
And uh. 00:46:02
Get some of those things, put that on paper so that. 00:46:03
So that when the legislative session opens up, we can get rolling right away and make sure that. 00:46:06
Regardless of how things play out. 00:46:11
One chamber goes with the other and the other doesn't, or vice versa, or. 00:46:14
You just never know the twists and turns that are. 00:46:18
Take place so. 00:46:20
The sooner we can think those through. 00:46:21
And get those bad at the better. 00:46:24
And regarding the. 00:46:27
The other legislation that could potentially happen? 00:46:29
That we're working through CSA with. 00:46:32
Is some wiper. 00:46:34
Reforms allow allow counties to be able to access some of those grants. 00:46:36
And so I think that's going to be a team effort, which. 00:46:41
Hula County will. 00:46:43
We'll be happy to be to play a leadership role in. 00:46:45
And then some potential blight legislation I know there's. 00:46:48
Proposal that. 00:46:52
We're hoping to get to CSA on Monday. 00:46:53
Next week on. 00:46:56
Potentially running a bill on. 00:46:58
Helping. 00:47:00
Helping the county be able to deal with the blight issue. 00:47:02
And I think it's more at the state level, it becomes more of a tax. 00:47:04
Issue and so that's it can become pretty complex and so. 00:47:09
If we're going to do this legislation with. 00:47:13
Obviously 101 for the CSIC. 00:47:16
See where they're at and what their support level might be. But. 00:47:18
Either way, if this bill goes forward, it's going to take a lot of effort, it's going to take a lot of conversations. 00:47:22
And, umm. 00:47:27
Potentially be open to. 00:47:28
Changing language or? 00:47:31
Thinking through different ideas. 00:47:32
But we've got some ideas out on on a draft that we'd like to circulate through CSA. 00:47:34
To at least get us started there. 00:47:39
And then I talked a little bit about the franchise agreements reform. 00:47:42
And affordable housing at the State Land Department. 00:47:46
And we'll continue to monitor the forest health. 00:47:50
I think there's actually a meeting in Payson today with. 00:47:53
Representative Marshall on some forest health issues. 00:47:56
That Todd and I will watch the replay of online. 00:48:00
When we can and then. 00:48:03
Rural water, I think that's. 00:48:04
As Craig mentioned, that's that's definitely going to come back. 00:48:07
Up. It's a priority of. 00:48:09
Of the governors and. 00:48:11
Senator Griffin's and a lot of other. 00:48:13
Other folks around the state. 00:48:15
And then other infrastructure funding, I know. 00:48:17
Mr. Menlo have talked about how can we get. 00:48:20
Get some of these things that are priorities to us funded. 00:48:22
Next year. 00:48:27
So, umm. 00:48:28
Some of the ones we've looked at this year did not get funded. 00:48:29
Get those down on paper. Which is that last bullet point. 00:48:32
And hopefully. 00:48:36
Make a run on this coming year. 00:48:38
So if that's all, if anyone has any questions. 00:48:40
Thank you, Andy. Great presentation so. 00:48:45
Supervisor Humphrey. 00:48:47
Just a few questions. 00:48:50
On the on the blighted deal. 00:48:51
Blighted property. 00:48:54
How do you think that's going? 00:48:56
You know, you said there's a lot of issues and it sounded. 00:48:58
A little on the negative side about. 00:49:01
Trying to get with the state or get into legislation. Well, yeah, property. 00:49:03
Sorry. 00:49:10
I don't mean to sound overly negative, it's just anytime you're running legislation. 00:49:11
It can be. It just becomes a little bit more complicated because you have to build a coalition and you have to make sure that. 00:49:16
Everyone understands what it is. You have to be willing to. 00:49:21
Tweak language. Change language. 00:49:24
Maybe, maybe not. Get everything you want. 00:49:27
But get enough of what you want so. 00:49:30
Just running a bill. 00:49:32
You know, if we can get it done in one year, that'd be great. 00:49:34
Sometimes it takes. 00:49:37
You know, a little bit longer depending on what the issue is. So I think, you know, we tried what our goal was and. 00:49:38
I know we've been working with. 00:49:43
Mr. O'Driscoll and with. 00:49:45
Mr. Lenovo, on some of the language, I think our goal is to keep the language as simple as possible. 00:49:46
And and I think it has. 00:49:53
You know, we've come up with this responsible parties language. 00:49:54
Responsible taxpayer. 00:49:58
So that someone other than. 00:50:00
The county or. 00:50:02
An unknown entity. 00:50:05
Has to take responsibility for some of these. 00:50:07
Clean up fees and taxes that are owed. 00:50:09
And so. 00:50:12
We're trying to keep it as simple as we can with our modern draft language. 00:50:13
But we'll see. We'll see where it goes. So I think the first step is. 00:50:18
Continuing to work with CSA, which they're aware that this has been an issue of ours that we're interested in. 00:50:21
And then, you know, it'll be, it'll be up to Todd and I and you all, too. 00:50:27
Push this. If we decide we do want to run something, we want to obviously find a bill sponsor and. 00:50:32
And run it. 00:50:36
Run it from there. So at this point we don't have a bill sponsor. 00:50:38
No, but I think we've got some good ideas that we can. 00:50:42
We can discuss on. 00:50:44
On who might be the best people to run that? 00:50:46
OK. I appreciate your efforts and something I've been working on for eight years and. 00:50:48
And another year goes by and then another year goes by, so. 00:50:53
I appreciate all your all your help in that because. 00:50:57
We have an awful lot of properties that our people are living next to. 00:51:00
That the counting can't do anything about. 00:51:05
Other than, tell them. 00:51:07
There's nothing I can do. You're living next to a rat trap and I can't help you. 00:51:08
So I appreciate all the help that. 00:51:12
That you can give us, and anything I can do I would be happy to. 00:51:15
Great. Thank you. 00:51:21
Yes. 00:51:23
Yes, Mr. Chairman, I wonder if we could pull back up the list of. 00:51:25
Items that we have identified. 00:51:28
And if it's OK with you, just spend a few minutes and. 00:51:30
And throughout your. 00:51:33
Had a lot of discussions but. 00:51:36
Craig and Jacob and the CSA. 00:51:38
May not have been involved in those discussions to. 00:51:40
Through Roger Humphrey, if you didn't mind, just give it a little bit of background of what we're. 00:51:42
Well, the issues that we're facing and you just touched on those a little bit, but. 00:51:46
And potentially some of the solutions that we maybe have looked at. 00:51:50
Would you mind doing that? 00:51:55
I I don't. I don't. 00:51:57
Mind it all talking about why I wished I would have known. 00:51:59
Ahead of time so I could have. 00:52:03
Showing you some pictures. 00:52:05
Of some of the things that my constituents. 00:52:06
Are living next. 00:52:09
And so I'm very unprepared. 00:52:12
To do a presentation. 00:52:15
But I have been. 00:52:17
People that are living next to places. 00:52:19
That are so bad. 00:52:22
That our health department. 00:52:24
Can get approval to go in and clean these places up. 00:52:26
At our expense. 00:52:30
Because there is no known owner. 00:52:33
Of the property. 00:52:35
Or one of our. 00:52:37
Gracious investors that invest in properties in our county. 00:52:38
Don't invest in one or two, they invest in. 00:52:44
Multiple properties. 00:52:47
They can. 00:52:50
After three years of paying the taxes. 00:52:51
They can foreclose on that property and own it. 00:52:54
If they own it, they become responsible for it. 00:52:57
Like you and I are. 00:53:00
That own property. 00:53:02
But if they don't foreclose on it, it's just at a dead end. 00:53:04
Again. 00:53:08
I have no owner. 00:53:08
To take care of that blighted property. 00:53:10
And so. 00:53:14
Umm, like I say, I'm very unprepared. I could go through many, many, many pictures and slides. 00:53:16
Of even mice running around and it. 00:53:21
It's really a bad situation. 00:53:24
Where people pass away. 00:53:27
And it never goes through probate. 00:53:29
And so therefore. 00:53:32
A nephew living in the property, but he's not liable for it. 00:53:34
But he doesn't take care of it either. 00:53:39
Or it's in a family trust. 00:53:41
They can't decide on whether to sell the property or keep it. There's 5 or 6 people and so there's property just sitting there 00:53:44
rotting. 00:53:47
And we have constituents that are working in our community. 00:53:52
That are paying their taxes, that are doing everything they can. 00:53:56
And they have to put out traps to keep. 00:54:00
The riffraff from next door out of their property. 00:54:03
And they call me. 00:54:07
And I have to tell him. 00:54:08
I apologize. 00:54:10
There's nothing I can do. 00:54:11
So that's why I think if a state. 00:54:14
If the state. 00:54:18
Would ever pass legislation? 00:54:19
That if you are paying taxes on a property. 00:54:22
Because if you don't pay taxes on a property, then it goes into a tax foreclosure sale. 00:54:26
Perhaps somebody would buy it, that would take care of it. 00:54:31
Or then it would go into the investors. 00:54:34
Deal which ends up in the same place. 00:54:37
But but there's lots and lots of properties that. 00:54:40
We can't do anything about. 00:54:44
And and so I think it's a state issue. 00:54:46
And some of the people are cleaning it up. 00:54:49
And uh. 00:54:51
Which takes care of the landfill. 00:54:53
Some counties. 00:54:56
Are, you know, cleaning it up and taking the money from the closure of the landfill to pay for the? 00:54:57
Cleaning up of these properties. 00:55:04
And we're doing some. 00:55:06
Clean and lean. 00:55:09
You can't really lean a property that there is no owner to. 00:55:10
And if you do, you'll never collect. 00:55:14
And so where do we get the money? 00:55:16
To do that with. 00:55:18
So the counties are. 00:55:19
Fighting. Trying to. 00:55:21
Come up with different ways. 00:55:23
To deal with this problem and all of them have their little deals, they got their own dumps, so they're dumping but. 00:55:25
In our case. 00:55:31
We can't just do that because. 00:55:33
Are done past the clothes. So if I do a clean up on a property or clean up on a neighborhood. 00:55:36
Out of my constituent funds, I pay for the number. 00:55:42
So so our counties are spending a lot of money. 00:55:44
Cleaning up these properties as to which I feel it is a state issue. 00:55:47
It's the state of Arizona. 00:55:52
And so you know when. 00:55:53
Talk to these people and I go up and. 00:55:55
Actually some of the properties you can. 00:55:59
Hardly look at without getting sick. 00:56:01
You got to tell them there's nothing I can do. 00:56:04
And so call your state legislature. 00:56:07
And so anyway. 00:56:10
I've been fighting this for eight years. 00:56:11
And I fight it hard and it is a major deal to me. 00:56:14
Because as I said the other day. 00:56:18
In in Gila County. 00:56:21
The way I you know. 00:56:24
Are the way. 00:56:25
Our jurisdictions are set up. 00:56:28
It's equal. 00:56:31
On constituents. 00:56:33
But the thing of it is, is in District 1-2 and three. 00:56:35
In district. 00:56:38
In District 2. 00:56:40
Most of my. 00:56:42
Most of my community is not D. 00:56:44
Governed by a city. 00:56:46
Or another government? 00:56:49
So I get an awful lot of calls. 00:56:51
And I appreciate Supervisor Christian. 00:56:54
And Supervisor Klein. 00:56:58
But in their districts. 00:57:00
A lot of their district. 00:57:02
Is governed. 00:57:03
By another government. 00:57:05
Reservations. 00:57:07
Town of Pay. 00:57:08
Star Valley. 00:57:09
So they don't have. 00:57:12
The percentage? 00:57:13
Of governing of rural property. 00:57:15
5th District Dutch. 00:57:19
So that's why I get hit. 00:57:21
With a lot of these. 00:57:24
Issues. 00:57:26
And like I said. 00:57:27
I could talk for six months. 00:57:29
That one picture would show you. 00:57:32
What what I could explain? 00:57:34
And so James. 00:57:37
You know, thanks, but. 00:57:38
I'd like to say I've been, I've been fighting this for eight years and at one point in time. 00:57:40
I even went. 00:57:45
To our legislative. 00:57:46
Conference. 00:57:49
And ask the other counties. 00:57:50
If we. 00:57:54
If our treasurer kept track. 00:57:55
Of the people that are paying property taxes that don't own the property. 00:57:57
And then at least we would know. 00:58:03
Who these people are? 00:58:06
That are not being responsible for their properties. 00:58:08
And all the counting said, yeah, they would. 00:58:12
They would appreciate. 00:58:14
That information. 00:58:15
But when it came down to it, I dropped it because what good is it going to do to put the treasures? 00:58:17
Through the work that they have to do for this information. 00:58:22
If there's no teeth in it. 00:58:26
Because we're putting them through a lot of work for information. 00:58:28
That we can't use. 00:58:32
To help clean up these properties. 00:58:34
Now, if the state said whoever is paying the taxes is liable for the property. 00:58:37
That would be valuable information. 00:58:41
Because then it would be a trust, a nephew or whomever. 00:58:44
And so, but anyway, yeah, I, I could, I could be on this all day and we've got a long day, so. 00:58:47
James, thank you very much, but. 00:58:53
Gentlemen, umm. 00:58:55
Believe me, I have a portfolio of debt. 00:58:56
Would make you and what I'm going to do. 00:58:59
Is I'm going to take a picture of that property. 00:59:03
And then I'm going to take the picture of the property that sits on either side of that. 00:59:06
To compound. 00:59:11
The difficulty of the issue. 00:59:12
That I'm dealing with. 00:59:14
Thank you very much. 00:59:16
Miss James, who? Thank you for letting me impose and. 00:59:19
And I know it's a. 00:59:22
A very important issue that we are confronted with there. 00:59:24
You're working fine with you. 00:59:27
So I appreciate you. 00:59:29
Sure, and I and I believe the other counties have the same problem because they were willing. 00:59:31
To go with a bill to have the treasures. 00:59:36
Find out who. 00:59:40
Paying property on taxes on some of these properties so. 00:59:41
I do know that the other counties. 00:59:45
Or at least rural counties are interested. 00:59:47
In something being done. 00:59:51
And every little bit helps. 00:59:55
If it's funding to help us clean it up. 00:59:57
That's a Band-Aid, but we'll take a Band-Aid. 00:59:59
But I would rather. 01:00:03
A law passed that. 01:00:04
If you're paying everybody in here that owns property, you're paying taxes and you're liable. 01:00:06
So why should somebody be able to be next to you? 01:00:11
And live that way. 01:00:14
And not be responsive. 01:00:16
Like you mentioned last year at the CSA Legislative Summit that was brought forward to the supervisors, there's a lot of support 01:00:19
from the supervisors around the state. 01:00:23
A lot of. 01:00:27
Counties are facing the same issues. 01:00:29
We're looking to develop the thought process and work on that to get more teeth, as you mentioned that. 01:00:31
We need to put something that. 01:00:38
Allows us to take action. 01:00:41
And to move forward so? 01:00:43
Appreciate your thoughts and comments today on that. 01:00:45
On the reform. 01:00:47
With it, come to us at Gila County. 01:00:49
And. 01:00:52
Wanted to introduce a program. 01:00:53
Eliminating. 01:00:56
Cesspool. 01:00:57
And it came to the came to pass that the counties are not allowed to work with Whip on that. 01:00:59
Communities, our cities and towns are. 01:01:04
Kinds are not, so the legislation is to allow counties. 01:01:06
To work with WIPA. 01:01:09
On cesspools and help to clean those up, which is. 01:01:10
Another big issue in Gila County throughout. 01:01:13
The entire county. 01:01:15
Franchise agreement reform we had with Southwest Gas. 01:01:17
Old franchise agreement with them. 01:01:21
And wanted to renew those franchise agreements. 01:01:23
Cooperation with them. 01:01:27
Southwest Gasket sat down with them. They. 01:01:29
Came to us, said, you know, we've got one that doesn't have an ending date. 01:01:31
We're happy the way things are. We're not going to partner. 01:01:34
If you like county, we're just going to leave being status quo. 01:01:38
Andy and Todd. 01:01:42
And they have been working with. 01:01:44
Southwest Gas specifically. 01:01:46
To get a new franchise agreement so that. 01:01:48
We can ensure the right of ways are protected. 01:01:51
In Gila County. 01:01:54
And that's what these are. 01:01:55
Franchise agreements that. 01:01:56
If a French franchise, a utility. 01:01:58
Cuts into the right of way of roads and those kinds of things. 01:02:00
That we can ensure. 01:02:04
Roads are adequately brought back in our safe. 01:02:05
And so we're not necessarily looking at legislative. 01:02:09
Reform at this point in time, but we are. 01:02:13
And he taught her working with us to. 01:02:15
Help ensure that our franchise agreements are all consistent. 01:02:18
Across the board. 01:02:21
Another thing that I specifically wanted to ask about and you did mention. 01:02:23
Andy about State Land Department. 01:02:27
That we have been looking and investing quite a bit of money. 01:02:30
In considering I purchased a state land that is out by our fairgrounds. 01:02:34
I I want to. 01:02:40
Proposing and charge the Humphries. 01:02:42
If there's any consideration that we do of taking this. 01:02:46
Potential purchase of state land. 01:02:51
When we originally purchased the fairground. 01:02:53
It was through a legislative act. 01:02:56
That we have not bid out, but we did buy it. We purchase it at. 01:02:58
Fair value. 01:03:03
But it was. 01:03:04
Them that we just purchased it directly, we didn't have to go through the auction process. 01:03:05
If that would be a possibility since it's been done in the past. 01:03:10
I want to explore the option of. 01:03:14
Potentially purchasing that 360 acres. 01:03:16
Through a direct purchase. 01:03:21
And not have to go through the auction process, we have invested. 01:03:22
Quite a bit of money. 01:03:26
In that and. 01:03:27
We were to go to auction. 01:03:28
And uh. 01:03:30
We were not the successful bidder. We would be out, we would get reimbursed some of that money that we've invested. 01:03:33
In environmental impact statements and all kinds of things that we've had to do. 01:03:39
That if it's possible that we could. 01:03:45
Through legislative action, just purchased that property directly and not go through the auction process. 01:03:47
There's a little bit difference of the auction process going to the highest bidder is because. 01:03:53
Most of the state land, they're going into housing developments down the. 01:03:57
We're looking for recreation and. 01:04:01
Potentially. 01:04:03
Workforce housing. 01:04:06
That we could. 01:04:07
Do some improvements in this area. 01:04:09
And potentially other areas throughout the county. 01:04:12
So that's why it's just a little bit different. 01:04:14
That it's not. 01:04:16
For us to. 01:04:18
Earn money or to. 01:04:19
Revenue generating. 01:04:21
Operation that we. 01:04:22
Wants to be able to enhance the quality of life. 01:04:25
In county. 01:04:28
And that's a specific opportunity, so would like to. 01:04:30
With your. 01:04:33
I guess can't take a vote today, but that's what we would like. 01:04:35
Like to look at. 01:04:39
For that potentially if we need to have. 01:04:40
All legislative action for that. 01:04:42
Let's go back to your. 01:04:48
Comments around the board. 01:04:50
Thank you, Sir. 01:04:52
Thank you, Mr. Chair. 01:04:55
Thank you for all that, James. 01:04:56
I'm afraid to open my mouth to. 01:04:58
Too wide because Joe's gonna shut me up in a minute, but. 01:05:00
But good ideas. 01:05:05
Andy and Todd, thank you guys so much for everything you've done for me. 01:05:07
You've done a lot. 01:05:10
You know, going back to the Vet Center. 01:05:13
For me at. 01:05:16
That was a big. 01:05:17
Help that you just got done. 01:05:19
And got passed through this last. 01:05:21
Budget and all that. 01:05:23
That really, really was good. 01:05:24
Umm, I think looking down the road in the future and some of this. 01:05:29
May apply to you guys, some of it may not, but you know, we're 90%. 01:05:32
Other ownerships, Federal, state, tribes. 01:05:39
But. 01:05:42
From the federal standpoint. 01:05:43
A lot. 01:05:45
A lot of what they're doing right now is going to be pushed down to the districts to local control, which is going to end up. 01:05:47
Rolling down to us. 01:05:54
Not necessarily the state. 01:05:57
And so. 01:05:59
I think I've had these discussions with Mr. Men Love. I've brought them up in some. 01:06:00
Other past meetings on updates and things so but. 01:06:06
I I see it more and more. I'm hearing it more and more from the top. 01:06:10
In the feds. 01:06:14
And it's something we're. 01:06:16
We're definitely going to need to be. 01:06:17
We're going to need to be prepared for. 01:06:20
Very soon. 01:06:23
It's happening now. 01:06:25
And so. 01:06:27
And and there's, there's a multitude of things going to hit, I mean. 01:06:28
There, what's surprising is they're skipping the. 01:06:33
The regional level, they're even skipping the Esso level to a certain degree and going straight to the districts. 01:06:38
So even though I'm a good neighbor, agreements and things like that, we work directly with the. 01:06:44
Forced the fourth source Ranger on the districts. 01:06:48
I'm not sure how that's gonna. 01:06:52
Eventually shake out. 01:06:54
But but I see that happening but. 01:06:56
In one of these moves to the loud is being discussed about. 01:06:58
Purchases of property for. 01:07:02
Housing. 01:07:04
That the feds are going to open. 01:07:06
You know, we've seen. 01:07:08
Senator Lee from Utah trying to do that here recently, but the fact of it is remains right now that there's still an Ave. where. 01:07:10
Counties or whatever could go in there and purchase property from the feds up to 40 acres. 01:07:18
For certain developments and things like that. So there's a, there's going to be a multitude of that going on. 01:07:23
I think. 01:07:29
In a lot of ways when. 01:07:30
When you wrap that back around to the vet Center. 01:07:32
And the fact that it's been in there and it's running through the process on the hill to transfer. 01:07:35
Transfer the ownership. I think that's helping speed that up, right? 01:07:40
Because it seems like a big push as to. 01:07:45
Is to clean up a bunch of these and so. 01:07:47
I think that's openness there. 01:07:50
Umm, but I. 01:07:52
I see other things, you know. 01:07:55
Forced health, the rule of water and. 01:07:58
Craig's been in the middle of all this for. 01:08:01
Since it was, it began and. 01:08:04
And it's a big issue. It's going to be a very important issue for us and. 01:08:07
And I know what you're saying about the management areas and stuff like that where the focus seems to be, but eventually it's 01:08:11
going to come around to the rules. 01:08:15
Side of. 01:08:18
And that's going to be us. 01:08:21
And you know the? 01:08:22
They can tap into. 01:08:25
Aquifers about anywhere they want and move water. 01:08:26
And so. 01:08:29
That's a big thing with me and my constituents. 01:08:31
And I'm pretty sure some of these do. 01:08:34
And so that's something that. 01:08:38
So we definitely need to. 01:08:40
Be in the middle of. 01:08:42
Along with your guys help and all that. 01:08:44
The forest health difflam is is in the middle of a lot of that when it comes to the wildfire situations. 01:08:48
And to the degree of the logging part of it. 01:08:54
But umm, I brought this up to us as a board here while back that. 01:08:58
From a county standpoint. 01:09:04
I see us. 01:09:06
In there as well. 01:09:08
When they speak of forced health to me. 01:09:13
That that. 01:09:16
And tells everything from the muggy own rim. 01:09:17
A lot of the projects that we see going on, and rightfully so, they're all needed, they're all good for the. 01:09:21
For the watersheds, but a lot of it's on top. 01:09:27
Plateau up there on top of the muggy on them. I've had this discussion with Patrice Hoffman. 01:09:30
Horseman and. 01:09:35
And we both agree that you know there. 01:09:38
We need to be looking at. 01:09:41
Bigger areas, but one of the things that impacts us. 01:09:42
In. 01:09:46
Is being under that rim so like when it comes to your tip? 01:09:48
Hugging projects, working around private properties, things like that. 01:09:52
It's a little tougher. 01:09:58
Because they're taking all that product. 01:09:59
Up over that rim. 01:10:02
And it's a. 01:10:03
Transportation costs. 01:10:05
And so one of the one of the ways. 01:10:07
Fixed now, which is very expensive, is to put. 01:10:10
Another facility on the South side of that rim. 01:10:12
But when you really look at that. 01:10:16
Versus the good it would be that. 01:10:19
That watershed, it'd be a well worth. 01:10:21
Worthy project. 01:10:24
All that my own country drains right myself. 01:10:25
It all it all goes to Phoenix. 01:10:30
And so to keep that water quality and everything. 01:10:32
Up that there needs to. We need to be in a lot more discussions with. 01:10:36
SRP for one. 01:10:41
And probably ATS for another. 01:10:43
The other, the other thing that we've been working with really hard and I don't know if you guys have been involved with it, but. 01:10:46
Public safety shut off. 01:10:53
With APS. 01:10:55
Umm, we we've worked. 01:10:57
We're kind of in the middle of this because so much of what APS has. 01:11:01
Problems with his. 01:11:06
Is basically on public lands for seven. 01:11:07
So where we? 01:11:11
Tried to help. Is being a. 01:11:13
Kind of working with both sides. 01:11:15
And one of the things the Forest Service is interested in on those. 01:11:17
Utility lines. 01:11:21
Is being able to protect. 01:11:23
So they could pull off. 01:11:26
Their watershed projects especially control. 01:11:27
Burns and stuff like that. 01:11:30
Right now, they're afraid of burning power lines. 01:11:32
And then how to pay for everything? 01:11:35
They're they're not so much afraid of. 01:11:38
Power lines starting on fire as much as they are. 01:11:40
Burning it down with theirs. 01:11:42
And so. 01:11:44
I've been able to pull those two together. We're looking at that and I know that there's going to be a lot more discussion, 01:11:45
especially from APS, not so much SRP. SRP is in there a little bit. 01:11:50
But they have more to do with the big KV line. 01:11:55
But that's going to be coming up real soon and. 01:11:59
You know, I've, I've really pushed the fact that. 01:12:03
I understand their reasoning if they. 01:12:07
Feel like they need to shut off a power line. 01:12:09
What you're what I've been trying to. 01:12:13
Draft 2 is what you're trying to prevent. You're going to cause another problem. 01:12:16
And what you're going to have for a planned event will end up becoming an emergency. 01:12:21
Because when you turn off power lines. 01:12:26
You turn off electricity to a lot of houses. I think last count was the impact in Gila County. 01:12:28
Somewhere around. 01:12:34
13,000. 01:12:35
Different people. 01:12:36
And so that becomes a whole other issue, so. 01:12:38
As this goes along, I. 01:12:42
Sit down and talk to you and. 01:12:44
Thought about some of this and. 01:12:45
And we continue to work with APS and we want to help find a solution to all that. And I really feel like. 01:12:48
Being able to. 01:12:54
Try and advocate for. 01:12:58
For wider right of ways on these power lines and things like that will help. 01:13:00
Alleviate the need to turn off. 01:13:05
And so that's what I'm really hoping we're going to be able to do. 01:13:08
The other thing, and I know this, this may not even. 01:13:11
Have anything to do with you guys but it might. 01:13:15
With their cutbacks. 01:13:21
With all the people that. 01:13:22
That left the. 01:13:24
Federal agency. 01:13:25
Lot of empty. 01:13:28
Physicians, one of the biggest is their recreation program. 01:13:30
And that impacts us here in Gila County. 01:13:36
Hard when you take like Roosevelt Lake for example, and we have all the visitors and the users. 01:13:39
The lake and they don't have a whole lot of people to keep them. 01:13:45
Cleaned up. 01:13:50
Operating things like that. 01:13:51
And then they're talking about maybe. 01:13:53
Shutting down certain campgrounds and doing different things. 01:13:56
So. 01:14:00
It's a discussion that. 01:14:01
I intend to have here one of these days. 01:14:03
Set that up and. 01:14:06
And talk more about it, but. 01:14:08
But that's out there as well. 01:14:10
And I guess in overall what I'm trying to say is the. 01:14:11
Or service is pretty much cutting back and shutting down. 01:14:14
That's just where I see it. 01:14:18
And I think there's going to be big changes. I think the state. 01:14:19
They will learn more on the stage, especially from. 01:14:23
For Fire Protection. 01:14:26
But they're also going to be leaning on US counties. 01:14:28
We'll keep you up to date on all that as it comes up, but. 01:14:32
Thank you for everything you guys have been doing, you've been awesome. 01:14:35
Thank you, Supervisor Klein. 01:14:39
And just to speak to that. 01:14:41
I think you're right on the money. 01:14:43
But before his health is something I've worked on. 01:14:45
I've been out in the forest with Tommy Martin. 01:14:48
Measuring trees with tape and. 01:14:51
Sierra Club arguing with the Forest Service over which ones we can cut. You know, it's something Todd and I have worked on for a 01:14:54
long time and. 01:14:57
And I think even even if there weren't these federal cuts coming down. 01:15:01
Over the last 20 years of my career, I've already seen and you guys have seen. 01:15:05
It takes more of a village than just the Forest Service from up high. 01:15:10
Telling everybody how it's going to be. 01:15:14
And Arizona stepped up in a big way in that regard. And I think Hula County and Coconino and some of these other counties have as 01:15:17
well. So and I think, you know, in the. 01:15:20
Current political environment and federal environment. 01:15:24
That's going to be even more important, like you said, going down. 01:15:27
The road and. 01:15:30
And Tom and I are certainly happy to help there. 01:15:31
Because it's becoming much more fluid. 01:15:34
The conversations and responsibilities and funding. 01:15:36
And what needs to be done. So we're happy to do that and then. 01:15:40
I did want to also speak to. 01:15:43
The blind issue one more. 01:15:45
Didn't want to leave the impression that. 01:15:47
We just came up with some language and we'll hope for the best. This is something we've worked on for a couple of years now. 01:15:50
And I have done a lot of research Jacob has done. 01:15:55
A bunch of research on this as well and the CSA. 01:15:58
Had a couple working group meetings last. 01:16:02
Session so we. 01:16:04
And I kind of all have a better idea of what. 01:16:06
Potential options might be so that's something we, you know, it's it's a heavy lift. 01:16:08
But it's an important way. 01:16:13
And it's not. We've been working on for quite a while and hopefully. 01:16:14
You know as these conversations. 01:16:19
Come down the Pike. 01:16:20
You know, we can coalesce around some some. 01:16:22
Ideas. 01:16:25
Policy proposals that make sense. 01:16:26
Todd and I went down to. 01:16:28
Lunch Council, which is the opposite. 01:16:30
That writes the legislative language that ends up in bills and just voted on. 01:16:32
During last session and. 01:16:36
Ask for some help on some language surrounding the blight issue. 01:16:38
And they basically said get out of the office. 01:16:42
This session's not even over yet. What are you talking about next year for? 01:16:46
So it's these ideas that have been out there where? 01:16:48
We're working on them. 01:16:52
I think we're in good shape. 01:16:54
Progress down that road and we're, you know, in a good time for him. 01:16:56
So definitely one of our top priorities and we'll keep working. 01:17:00
Thank you. Thank you very much for that. 01:17:04
I appreciate it very much. 01:17:07
I understand that it's a heavy lift because if it was easy, it had been done a long time ago, so. 01:17:09
Thank you. 01:17:14
If I may say one more thing, you know when I. 01:17:15
I came into office 8 years ago. We had a. 01:17:18
A famous motel down there in Winkelmann in Haiti, right on the border. 01:17:21
Right on the on the highway. 01:17:25
Right on that curve. 01:17:28
And, umm. 01:17:29
It was a mess. 01:17:31
Is a bad mass. 01:17:32
The wind had blow and part of the roof would end up in the highway. 01:17:34
And their public works crews that have to go get it out and push it back in a pile. 01:17:37
And whatnot and umm. 01:17:42
We went to work on that project me and Kathy did, and I'm new in this position I. 01:17:44
I'm, I'm totally learning everything at the time. I mean, I don't know. 01:17:50
Thank God for Cathy. 01:17:54
But we went to and we worked with it, worked with it and worked with it. 01:17:56
One of the problems was that this motel was pretty big. 01:18:00
And right in the middle line, middle of it was a division between two partial numbers. 01:18:03
One one side had went back for. 01:18:09
Past taxes and the other side we're still waiting on. 01:18:12
But they're connected in the middle. I mean, it's just one building basically. 01:18:16
But anyway, Long story short, we. 01:18:20
We we finally, just. 01:18:22
Into a roadblock. 01:18:24
We didn't know where to turn. We didn't. 01:18:26
As a county, we didn't have the money. 01:18:28
To clean it up. 01:18:30
You know the the town down there didn't have the money. 01:18:32
Money so. 01:18:34
It just so happened at a roundtable meeting with the governor and Pace. 01:18:36
And so Cathy put together a big fish. 01:18:41
File with all the pictures and everything and. 01:18:43
And I walked up the steps to that meeting to go in there to meet with Governor Ducey. 01:18:45
And uh. 01:18:50
Umm, his assistant there. 01:18:52
Anyway, he's standing on the porch and. 01:18:56
I shook his hand. I know him. And. 01:18:58
And you guys do too. 01:19:00
But anyways, I told him I said, hey, before the governor gets out of here today, I really want to. 01:19:03
Handing this file and. 01:19:07
Talk to him a little bit about it and see see where I could turn. 01:19:09
He said what is it? So I told him and I gave him the followings looking at it. 01:19:13
That's a mess, I said. Yeah. 01:19:18
I said and guess what? He said what? And I said you own it. 01:19:20
It belongs to the state of Arizona in care of the county. 01:19:24
I said this is yours, we're just trying to clean it up. 01:19:28
He's like. 01:19:32
Are you kidding? I said no. 01:19:33
You own it. 01:19:34
And so. 01:19:35
We went to work with the. 01:19:36
Is on Department of Environmental Quality. 01:19:38
ADEQ and. 01:19:41
And got it cleaned up and one project led to another and now Kathy. 01:19:42
Part of a. 01:19:47
Organization of light. 01:19:48
Busters organization in the copper corridor. 01:19:50
They received a lot of money in grants and. 01:19:53
And working on assessments for a lot of different properties. 01:19:56
In and around. 01:20:00
And so. 01:20:03
Anything that comes out. 01:20:04
In a way of support for grant money for something like that. 01:20:06
You need to know about it as well. 01:20:09
That that. 01:20:11
Flight Busters goes from superior into. 01:20:13
10th district into my district, all down that copper cord. 01:20:16
Site so it's a really good thing that they've done assessments on some different buildings. 01:20:20
Getting ready to. 01:20:26
To demolish them and and go on. So anything you hear about that, let. 01:20:27
Will do, yeah. 01:20:32
Thank you, supervisor, and thank you, Andy and Todd. 01:20:34
You guys seem to have a real determination. Your efforts are always for. 01:20:38
The needs that we have here in Hewlett County, I think you really understand he look county. 01:20:43
And if he didn't? 01:20:48
You'd better probably today. 01:20:49
So. 01:20:52
I would only bring up in addition to what's been discussed. 01:20:54
That some of the allocations for funding. 01:20:57
That the state distributes to the various counties for. 01:21:01
Her for for. 01:21:04
You know, adopt the various things. 01:21:06
I can't speak to all the variables. 01:21:08
But Gila County. 01:21:12
Is not just 55,000 people we get like. 01:21:14
8 million visitors. 01:21:18
A year. 01:21:19
From. 01:21:21
Various places. 01:21:23
In the state. 01:21:25
And elsewhere. 01:21:26
That impacts the county. 01:21:28
With our. 01:21:30
Sheriff's Department. 01:21:31
Our search and rescue. 01:21:33
The 700 miles of roads that we maintain. 01:21:35
For the Forest Service and for others. 01:21:41
In our own and all of that impact. 01:21:44
That 55,000 people would have. 01:21:47
Virtually no impact on. 01:21:49
Is impacted by these visitors and so. 01:21:52
We need to somehow look at. 01:21:55
Achieving more. 01:21:58
Compensation. 01:22:00
For that. 01:22:02
And I don't know how to do that, but the idea I'm just putting out the. 01:22:02
If we could, that'd be great. 01:22:06
More money is always better. 01:22:08
But you know, we're we're running our entire public works system. 01:22:10
Like a $6 million. 01:22:14
Budget from Hirsch. 01:22:16
And that's just really not enough. 01:22:17
So anyway. 01:22:20
Thank you guys. Appreciate that if there's nothing else. 01:22:22
Then we will move on to the next item. 01:22:26
Thank you guys for thank you for being advisors. 01:22:28
I don't to see is information discussion regarding the management of Eva county owned. 01:22:32
Properties. 01:22:37
And State, Arizona owned properties which are in the care of the Board of Supervisors. Good morning, Mr. O'Driscoll. 01:22:39
You have a team coming forward. 01:22:45
Good morning, Chair and Mr. 01:22:49
Members of the board, yes I do. 01:22:50
We have. We have. 01:22:53
And in the. 01:22:54
Audience. We also have representatives from the Assessors Office and Public Works as well. 01:22:56
At the treasurer's office and we have GIS Tom Holman. 01:23:01
As Red and Tom put together this presentation on the properties that the county owns. 01:23:06
Properties that the state of Arizona. 01:23:12
It became very clear that this was. 01:23:15
A huge project. 01:23:18
That I knew very little about. 01:23:20
So I needed help from everyone here, including Marian Shepherd, who? 01:23:22
Has some very good institutional knowledge about. 01:23:27
Properties and how they're sold in Hilla County in the process that goes through the Board of Supervisors. 01:23:32
And those kinds of things, so. 01:23:37
Thank you. So I have. 01:23:39
I have everybody here in case that. 01:23:41
Questions that you ask. 01:23:43
I'm gonna. 01:23:46
Ask ask for help for that. 01:23:47
But a while back, the Board of Supervisors asked staff to put together. 01:23:50
Presentation on county owned properties to have that discussion. 01:23:53
And when we were doing that. 01:23:57
It turns out that. 01:23:59
In talking to Supervisor Humphrey. 01:24:01
And the bright area there is also. 01:24:04
A big part of the property in Gila County that's owned by the state of Arizona. 01:24:07
So we split the. 01:24:12
Presentation into. 01:24:13
2 distinct presentations. 01:24:14
County owned property. 01:24:16
And state owned property. 01:24:18
Neither of those presentations actually are similar, so that's why we split it up. 01:24:20
And how we handle those properties? 01:24:25
Very in complications. 01:24:27
As far as? 01:24:32
What do we do with the blind properties of state owned properties? 01:24:34
And the county properties. 01:24:37
And So what I'd like to do is just start with the county owned property presentation. 01:24:38
We do have. 01:24:44
The presentation attached, but we're not going to go through. 01:24:45
Every slide, if that's OK with the supervisors. 01:24:49
It's fine with me. 01:24:53
That's fine with me. We've seen a lot of these. 01:24:55
We've had multiple. 01:24:58
Property deals where we've come. 01:25:01
Where you've come before us and. 01:25:03
Hidden properties and the patient properties and the things we. 01:25:05
We've been hashing this in my opinion, so we don't see it. Again, I'm fine. 01:25:09
Thank you, Sir. 01:25:14
I I've pretty much been to all these properties. 01:25:15
Michael so I. 01:25:20
I don't think we need to go through the slides unless there's a particular property somebody really wants to dwell into, but. 01:25:21
More or less what I would be interested in talking about is the. 01:25:29
Process to get rid of them. 01:25:33
Perfect. 01:25:36
So if you look at the county owned properties. 01:25:37
Most of them are right of ways transportation. 01:25:41
Right away. 01:25:45
You know, floodplain properties, those kinds of things. 01:25:46
Along with all the property of the county. 01:25:50
Owns that we we have our operations. 01:25:53
Out of including the buildings, this building here, the courthouse, the landfills, those kinds of things. 01:25:55
And we do have some properties out there that we. 01:26:00
Acquired in the past. 01:26:03
There are a couple properties out in Hayden, for instance. 01:26:05
That the Board of Supervisors. 01:26:08
Years ago. 01:26:10
Agreed to purchase so we could just clean those up. 01:26:11
And we couldn't clean those up. 01:26:15
Unless we own them. 01:26:18
So the Board of Supervisors several decades ago purchased some properties like that. 01:26:20
And then we have other properties out there such as. 01:26:25
There's a large 20 acre piece of property that's next to the. 01:26:28
Gila Community College up in Payson. 01:26:32
And those kinds of things, and I'm assuming that those are the properties that. 01:26:35
That this discussion would revolve around as far as. 01:26:38
The property that we own and your thoughts on what to do with those moving forward. 01:26:43
Is that correct Supervisor? 01:26:48
So from my standpoint, yes. 01:26:49
Mr. Chair, but. 01:26:53
So if you don't mind, real quick on. 01:26:56
And I like said, I don't want to move into the properties in Hayden. 01:27:00
I think there's six or seven different properties down there that we do actually own. 01:27:03
Umm, we have no business owning them. 01:27:09
And so I would. 01:27:13
I want to ask you guys. 01:27:16
And Joe may have to be the final word on this because I believe if we actually own a property. 01:27:19
We can't just. 01:27:28
Deeded over to another. 01:27:29
Government agency like the town of Hayden or Winkelmann for a dollar. 01:27:31
We have to do. 01:27:36
Like in 90% of its assessed value. 01:27:38
An outright sail. 01:27:41
And. 01:27:43
That makes it kind of tough. 01:27:46
Makes it real tough. 01:27:48
Because. 01:27:49
I feel like in my position that I wouldn't want to put any more money in any of these to. 01:27:50
Just spruce them up just to get a few dollars out of them. 01:27:56
Why would it be? I would rather see. 01:27:59
Just use the town of Hayden, be able to take these properties and do what they want to with them. 01:28:02
Fix them up, sell them, use them. 01:28:08
Whatever it is. 01:28:10
But. 01:28:11
In saying that, when you talk about these small communities, they don't have the money to go in there. 01:28:12
Environment 90% of their value. 01:28:17
You know so. 01:28:20
Mainly my question is more for Joe than it is any of you guys, but the last I knew in the properties we've kind of dealt with, 01:28:23
that's been the case and I don't think there's any way around that to the state statute. 01:28:28
Is that right, Joe? 01:28:34
Mr. Chairman. 01:28:38
To provide the client. I'll look into it. 01:28:40
Basically, you're right, you can't just deed it over, there has to be a process. 01:28:42
Board enters into. 01:28:46
To dispose of a property like that. 01:28:48
Even if it's to another level of government. 01:28:51
But I will look into that. 01:28:53
And then make a written. 01:28:56
Recommendation to the. 01:28:57
With alternatives to the board. 01:28:59
And and you know from. 01:29:03
From our discussions like with. 01:29:05
Craig and with Andy and. 01:29:07
This could very well be something coming up in the future to go back and make another run through legislation. 01:29:09
To try and change, I don't know. 01:29:14
Just throwing that out there, but. 01:29:16
It does put a ***** and things when we try and do that and I'll use for example. 01:29:18
Winkleman We had a piece of property that. 01:29:23
Excuse me, set right next to their public works. 01:29:27
And so it was the same scenario. 01:29:31
So we get a long term lease on that. 01:29:33
To where they could go ahead. 01:29:36
And do what they needed to with it. 01:29:38
And it's just basically at least. 01:29:40
But these other ones sitting here, I know that. 01:29:44
That if it's for. 01:29:48
Transportation. 01:29:51
Or drainage. 01:29:53
We can do certain things with. 01:29:56
With properties. 01:29:57
But. 01:29:59
The properties that the county purchased years ago. 01:30:00
None of that really matters that I see, you know, that's outside of that, so. 01:30:05
So that'd be good, Joe, and maybe there's something in the future we can work on that. 01:30:11
Try and get something changed there they would give us the ability. 01:30:16
To transfer ownership to another town or whatever it is and let them do what they want to. 01:30:20
Thank you, supervisor. Yeah. 01:30:27
The state statute. 01:30:29
Is and I think my team today for giving that to me is 11 to 51. 01:30:32
#9. 01:30:37
That sort of explains. 01:30:39
How a county can go. 01:30:41
You know Ford with. 01:30:44
Selling a piece of property in the 90% assessed value. 01:30:46
And you're absolutely right. 01:30:49
Marian Shepherd has a few minutes that she could sort of explain the. 01:30:51
The property that the county can purchase. 01:30:56
Prior to an auction. 01:30:59
For a dollar is what? 01:31:01
You know Heila County set. 01:31:03
For transportation and flood. 01:31:04
If Marion, might you be able to sort of? 01:31:07
Explain that process real quick. 01:31:11
Sure, I'll try to keep it real short. 01:31:13
I do believe the board is pretty familiar. 01:31:16
With all the years dealing with these properties. 01:31:18
But basically. 01:31:21
The when a property owner has not paid their taxes for seven years in a row. 01:31:22
The treasurer is mandated by statute to deed that property over to the State of Arizona, Chair of the Board of Supervisors. 01:31:27
The next step in the process is she. 01:31:34
Gives me those beads. 01:31:39
And all the related information. 01:31:40
I review that. 01:31:43
We scan the information for each parcel and then we send it on to. 01:31:44
The public works director and the county engineer. 01:31:49
They review the. 01:31:52
And they determine. 01:31:55
If any of the properties can be used for a purpose related to transportation or flood control. 01:31:56
That, umm. 01:32:03
Would benefit the county. 01:32:03
City, town or special taxing district. 01:32:06
When they do identify a property. 01:32:09
Eye contact that. 01:32:12
County, you know, city manager or. 01:32:14
Or if they say the county wants to purchase it. 01:32:17
We just quickly get it on the agenda. 01:32:20
And the board? 01:32:22
Reviews it in. 01:32:24
Sells it to the county for a dollar. 01:32:26
We came across, we came. 01:32:28
To the dollar amount many, many years ago, just as a way. 01:32:30
To just change hands. 01:32:33
Right. And it has to be related. 01:32:35
To a purpose. 01:32:39
Or transportation and flood control. 01:32:41
So in the statute. 01:32:43
It allows. 01:32:45
The board. 01:32:47
To sell it through the county or what are those entities? 01:32:48
Before the auction. 01:32:51
The auction is also required by statute. The board must conduct it. 01:32:53
You have to have a list of available properties. 01:32:57
I think by the first Monday in November of each year. 01:33:00
That is typically why the board has their. 01:33:04
Their sale in December. 01:33:06
We've gotten a little behind in that and. 01:33:07
There is one other. 01:33:11
Paragraph in the statute. 01:33:12
Can't remember the exact. 01:33:14
Number of statute. 01:33:16
And it lets. 01:33:17
The board. 01:33:18
We identify. 01:33:20
A contiguous. 01:33:22
Owner of property to the subject state owned property. 01:33:23
That. 01:33:27
They can come to us and we could sell. 01:33:28
Before the auction. 01:33:30
But it has to be just one contributor. 01:33:32
Contiguous owner. 01:33:35
I've only come across one instance ever where I brought a property to the boards to sell it to that person. 01:33:36
Because usually there's more. 01:33:42
And basically we have the auction for the last few years we I think since 2020. 01:33:44
2020-2021 We have gone through public surplus company. 01:33:50
They handle it all. We've made a profit. 01:33:54
Because a lot of people don't do their due diligence and. 01:33:57
Less progress and then? 01:34:00
The properties. 01:34:02
I should get to this part real quick. 01:34:03
Trying to make it quick. 01:34:05
The properties that did not sell at the previous auction. 01:34:06
They basically sit there. 01:34:10
In the past we had a process where. 01:34:11
Anybody could come to the clerk of the board's office, and the board gave the clerk. 01:34:14
The authority to sell the property. 01:34:18
Just to have a record of that sale then. 01:34:23
It's placed on an agenda item for the board to authorize the chairman to step. 01:34:25
To sign the quick claim deed that way we have. 01:34:31
Historical record. 01:34:34
We did try back in 2022. 01:34:36
Kind of, I think other counties have done this, but we. 01:34:39
We gathered up all those properties that didn't sell at previous board auctions. 01:34:42
And we had another auction. 01:34:47
And again, we made money. 01:34:49
Here's the problem. 01:34:51
Somebody gets the property. 01:34:54
They didn't do their homework. 01:34:56
And here we go, and it's a perpetual cycle. 01:34:57
In seven years, it comes back to the state. 01:35:01
Monica has to do her thing, we have to do our thing, and so on and so forth. 01:35:03
So that's not. 01:35:08
A good thing either so. 01:35:10
That's what we do. So we. 01:35:13
Really. Uh. 01:35:15
On behalf of the board, the clip. 01:35:16
The clerk's office is responsible for tracking all that property. 01:35:18
And what we do with it. 01:35:22
So we can go back to maybe I wanted to talk. 01:35:24
To James to talk to you. 01:35:28
All about maybe going back to. 01:35:30
At least. 01:35:32
Over the counter scales because the clerk's office right now, we don't have time for that extra auction. It's enough to keep up 01:35:33
with the. 01:35:36
Yearly auction of newly beated properties. 01:35:40
But to be able to sell it for the lien amount because. 01:35:43
And it is a win win because we get it back on the tax. 01:35:45
That's it. Any questions? 01:35:49
Any questions? 01:35:52
Uh, no. None other than I think. 01:35:55
Any way that we could prepare to sell a property? 01:35:58
To get it back on the tax rolls. 01:36:02
To make it easier for someone to purchase. 01:36:04
Would be a good idea. 01:36:07
I like getting homeless properties at home. 01:36:11
That's right, that that. 01:36:17
My whole goal is just what she says is to take these properties. 01:36:19
Out there, just sitting there. 01:36:23
And get them back to somebody who can use them and put them back on them. 01:36:25
Actuals I mean that's If I may add one more thing. We do also have a process in place. 01:36:28
That is ongoing and it does work well. 01:36:34
Is if an adjoining property owner. 01:36:38
Comes to the board and can prove that they. 01:36:42
Have the property adjoining the state owned property. 01:36:46
They can. 01:36:50
Placed a sealed. 01:36:51
To the board and the board can consider. 01:36:53
Selling that property for less than the lien amount. 01:36:57
This is possible because many years ago the Board of Supervisors adopted a resolution. 01:36:59
That stated that if there is a certain condition. 01:37:05
The board could wave. 01:37:08
Selling the property for the lien amount. 01:37:10
And so that's one thing we. 01:37:12
Talked about we had a little. 01:37:14
I'm meeting with Michael and his team recently and we talked about. 01:37:16
You know. 01:37:20
That made the board. 01:37:22
Some way to sell the property less for less than the? 01:37:24
The lien amount for certain. 01:37:27
Conditions. 01:37:29
Great. Thank you, Mary. 01:37:31
OK, so. 01:37:32
OK. 01:37:36
Yeah, this is a deep dive. I got a ream of paper. 01:37:37
OK, and I and I asked. 01:37:40
Melissa the print because I wanted to see the. 01:37:43
And it's huge. It weighs 12 lbs. 01:37:46
So we have various types of properties and the properties I'm looking at right now. 01:37:51
Are in, well, this one's in pine, strawberry, et cetera, and they involve roadways, drainages. 01:37:55
Right of ways. 01:38:02
Things like that, we're not going to be talking about that. Those are the properties we need to keep. 01:38:04
Have those for a reason. 01:38:07
I think that what we're trying to talk about is. 01:38:09
If we have a question as to why do we own it? 01:38:12
Then that's the ones we want to review. 01:38:16
What's the purpose of this Is Was there a need? What is there a need? 01:38:18
Or can we move it on? 01:38:23
And is there a way that in the incorporated cities and I'm I was looking at the patient and. 01:38:25
Star Valley. 01:38:31
We own drainages and right of ways and different things. 01:38:32
Properties in those import. 01:38:36
Incorporated cities. 01:38:38
That I'm not sure why we have that. 01:38:40
But I do I have received phone calls. Hey. 01:38:43
This tree. 01:38:46
This trees hanging out on my roof. 01:38:47
And I was told. 01:38:50
It belongs to you. 01:38:51
This tree. 01:38:53
And it ends up being in. 01:38:54
Star Valley. 01:38:57
And I'm thinking, why would we own a tree? 01:38:58
In Star Valley, where we own some sort of a drainage. 01:39:00
And then we have to get the surveyors out there to determine whether that tree is actually. 01:39:03
On our land or if it's big. 01:39:07
On something else. 01:39:11
And it seems like can we move those properties to the actual incorporated? 01:39:12
Umm, cities. 01:39:17
Counts rather than. 01:39:20
Be the caretakers of something embedded in an. 01:39:23
Incorporated areas. 01:39:26
Chairman, that's a great question. So one of the. 01:39:29
One of the. 01:39:32
Things we discovered as a group. 01:39:33
As this presentation was coming together and Tom Holman and the assessor. 01:39:35
We'll be working together. 01:39:40
On this project is. 01:39:43
There we own a lot of. 01:39:45
Property and it's all over the county for different purposes. 01:39:46
So when the board comes to the staff and asks. 01:39:50
Can you put together a presentation for the property we own? 01:39:53
There's this packet here. 01:39:57
Yet part of the packet. 01:39:59
A lot of these properties we own have a very specific. 01:40:02
Purpose. 01:40:05
Transportation, flood, drainage control, those kinds of things. 01:40:07
And So what we want to do in the future is when the board comes to staff and asks. 01:40:11
The property. 01:40:16
What? What is the property the county owned? 01:40:17
We can filter it out to avoid all of those. 01:40:19
And just get the board. 01:40:23
A particular. 01:40:25
Type of property you want to look at. 01:40:26
And so. 01:40:28
Tom Holman and the assessor going to be working together to create new filters in our search database. 01:40:30
Right, so. 01:40:35
So when you ask us what properties do we own that are flood control related? 01:40:36
You can pull up just those properties. 01:40:41
We don't have that ability right now, so when you ask us to do this research, we come up with this entire. 01:40:43
So that's a great question. 01:40:50
As far as those properties. 01:40:51
We don't have an answer for you to. 01:40:53
Day, because the next step after this presentation is to sit down. 01:40:55
And go. 01:40:59
One by one with these properties. 01:40:59
And identify which ones we. 01:41:02
We shouldn't even consider selling. 01:41:04
And what properties are? 01:41:06
In other areas. 01:41:08
That we may own. 01:41:09
That we. 01:41:11
Approach the other municipality and say. 01:41:12
Can you use this for transportation or flood control? 01:41:15
And then we can go through that process of getting it over to them. 01:41:18
That's the next step in the presentation. 01:41:21
So so I'm a East Star Valley. 01:41:24
So let's just take Star Dolly for instance it. 01:41:28
You know they're incorporated. 01:41:30
So they. 01:41:33
They're the ones that do the maintenance on the roads. 01:41:34
Right, Alex? 01:41:36
And all of that. But so for instance, if there's a road in Star Valley where there's a sliver. 01:41:38
Of an easement that still. 01:41:43
In our name as a county. 01:41:45
For ownership. 01:41:48
It would only make sense if we did that over to them. 01:41:50
And and if I'm not and Joe, I'm sure again. 01:41:53
Correct me if I'm wrong or check on this, but I think when it has to do with transportation we can do that. 01:41:56
Or drainage. 01:42:01
And so when I went through this list of properties. 01:42:02
Which is pretty difficult on the phone. 01:42:06
Looking at it but. 01:42:09
But there is a lot. 01:42:10
Of little slivers. 01:42:11
In easements and on roads, a lot of it is it. 01:42:13
UMM is located in the unincorporated area. 01:42:16
You know, along the way. 01:42:21
And so. 01:42:23
There's no way that I would ever see that. 01:42:24
A landowner would want to take that on or add it to theirs and pay taxes on it just to have it as part of an easement that they 01:42:28
basically can't. 01:42:31
Ease and so, but the ones. 01:42:35
Inside the. 01:42:38
Incorporated areas. 01:42:40
It'd be nice if we. 01:42:43
Have those properties like that that we can just go and clean that up. 01:42:45
From our standpoint. 01:42:49
Lighten our files down and get rid of it and say here's our valley. Here's all of these. 01:42:50
For you or here Winkelmann or. 01:42:56
Or globe or whatever it is. 01:42:59
And you know. 01:43:01
Because otherwise they're just gonna set on our roles forever. 01:43:03
You're not going to work. 01:43:06
Yeah, I agree, Supervisor. Thank you. 01:43:08
Thanks. Any other questions right now? 01:43:15
Yeah. 01:43:17
Let's talk about the property on 260. Are we good with that, Mr. Chair? 01:43:19
Let's jump right up to the 20 acres. 01:43:24
Yes, Sir. 01:43:27
Well, I mean, it's probably one of the largest, most significant pieces that we have discussed in the past as being. 01:43:31
Optional. 01:43:36
As far as its use. 01:43:37
Yes, Sir. 01:43:40
So I'm willing to hear your thoughts on that. 01:43:42
Let's get rid of it. 01:43:44
OK, you know. 01:43:46
I I remember the discussion and Tim, you can correct me if I missed something here too by all means. 01:43:48
When we built a new building in Payson. 01:43:54
The Tommy Martin Klein Building. We threw all kinds of ideas out of the. 01:43:57
People. One of them was to actually develop. 01:44:01
20 acres. 01:44:04
And maybe go in. 01:44:05
Partners with town of Payson and just put kind of a bigger type complex there, but. 01:44:07
You know, the infrastructure and everything else that was going to be involved. 01:44:13
Made it a free. 01:44:17
Pretty high cost to get that project done. 01:44:18
And at the time I. 01:44:21
I you know, my feeling was as if we could pull that off and use the property. 01:44:23
That. That's good. 01:44:28
I know I've had conversations with Mr. James about, you know, housing type. 01:44:30
Project or something like that. 01:44:35
Umm, but. 01:44:37
Overall, I've come to the realization. 01:44:41
I'd rather. 01:44:46
Have sell it to somebody who's going to do something with it. 01:44:47
And just to have it keep sitting there. 01:44:50
I really would. 01:44:52
We take that money and put it back into. 01:44:53
That our county projects or wherever we want to get. 01:44:55
That's my thoughts. 01:45:00
Supervisor Hoofy. 01:45:02
Any pumped? Well in the eight years we've talked about putting a hotel motel. 01:45:04
Affordable housing. 01:45:09
I even said it's just sitting there, it would be worth more flat. Let's use the material and start putting it on our dirt Rd. 01:45:10
That's eight years and it's still sitting there so. 01:45:19
We've we've done nothing with it and I. 01:45:21
And and I don't. 01:45:24
I don't see that it's. 01:45:26
That it's going to do us any good the way it is. 01:45:28
And, and I think the money would be. 01:45:32
Beneficial. 01:45:35
'Cause we have a lot of. 01:45:36
Capital projects that we want to work on and things we want to do. 01:45:38
And and and and and. I believe it's a pretty. 01:45:43
Valued piece of property or could be. 01:45:46
So I don't, I don't see. 01:45:50
You know, now that we built the Potomac Klein Martin building, I don't, I don't see us needing that property. 01:45:52
For future. 01:45:58
County. 01:46:00
Facilities. 01:46:02
So I don't. 01:46:04
I don't see any reason for us to. 01:46:05
To own that property. 01:46:08
And I would agree with all of the sentiments. 01:46:11
I think we should. 01:46:14
Look at a way of liquidating it or trading it for something more useful. 01:46:16
But there's a one acre. 01:46:20
Portion right, dead center in the middle of it that's owned by the. 01:46:22
Hallopathy. That's awkward. 01:46:25
Access is offered to it. The shape of it is. 01:46:28
I have a feeling that we got a hold of it mainly because. 01:46:31
Got a hold of 40 acres. 01:46:34
Twenty of which went to the college. 01:46:36
And then we have that as. 01:46:39
Residual. 01:46:40
And So what? 01:46:42
Its value is. I don't know if it's better as. 01:46:43
Buildable. 01:46:48
Housing. 01:46:49
I personally don't feel. 01:46:51
That the county should be in the housing business. I don't want to. 01:46:53
Pursue that go down that rabbit hole at all. 01:46:56
I'd like to see that pursued by someone else. 01:46:58
The town of Payson is pursuing some projects like that. 01:47:01
But I don't want to give it away either. 01:47:05
So, uh. 01:47:07
I think we should pursue. 01:47:09
Starting after today's. 01:47:10
Message to you. 01:47:12
Start pursuing options of what we can do with that. 01:47:14
Thank you, Chairman. 01:47:18
Appreciate the direction. 01:47:20
And if that's. 01:47:23
If there are no other projects in the county owned. 01:47:25
Section of the presentation. 01:47:27
I can move into the. 01:47:30
State owned properties if you would like. 01:47:31
OK. 01:47:34
Just one question. 01:47:38
Yes, Sir. Say if I wanted to buy one of these properties in Hayden? 01:47:39
Who would I contact? 01:47:42
As for it, was it for sale and and what? 01:47:44
And get with a realtor and find out the value of the property. 01:47:47
For the state owned that would be the clerk of the board. 01:47:53
No, that's not state on this county on property county held that would be the charges public works. 01:47:55
OK, if somebody wanted to buy one, whoever they talked to, I'll bet we'll all make the decision to sell it, can't we? But but. 01:48:03
If we want to get rid of them. 01:48:12
I figured a way to try is let somebody know it's. 01:48:14
It's available. 01:48:16
Well, the county owns it. Well, the county owns it, and everybody just keeps on walking. It's like, OK, well, if you let somebody 01:48:19
know, hey, this is available. Well, yeah, yeah, I could do a little fruit stand there. What do they want for? 01:48:24
And and so if I'm asked that question. 01:48:30
I don't. 01:48:33
I don't know. 01:48:35
So I guess if it's owned by the county, county held liens, that's done by the treasurers office. 01:48:37
And we have a list, an ongoing list that anyone can buy for $30 and it has a list at our county health. 01:48:41
If they are deeded to the state of Arizona in care of. 01:48:48
The body supervisors. 01:48:52
That is done by the clerk of the board. 01:48:53
OK, yeah, but but but like the ones in Hayden? 01:48:55
The county owns them out. Well, it's deeded to Gila County. 01:48:58
It's already Peel County Health has the deeds of this property. 01:49:02
They own it. 01:49:05
Is this something or so somebody would? 01:49:08
Go to Public Works and make Public Works an offer. 01:49:11
No, I. 01:49:15
You would be able. 01:49:16
You may be talking about multiple. 01:49:18
Different types of properties. 01:49:20
So the properties that. 01:49:23
The this one right here. 01:49:25
If the county purchased it. 01:49:27
At some time in the past, so we. 01:49:30
Own it. 01:49:33
Via deed. 01:49:34
Then something would happen. 01:49:39
If it's under tax liens through the treasure. 01:49:42
If it is later. 01:49:44
Seven years where it went to a warranty deed, It's the clerk. 01:49:47
I know all that, yeah. 01:49:53
Chairman Christian. Yes, ma'am. 01:49:54
Provider Humphrey if. 01:49:56
The problem we have with county owned property. 01:49:59
The properties you're talking about are in Hayden. 01:50:02
And at one time a sarco through a lawsuit. 01:50:05
Had to remediate some of those properties. They hired a company. 01:50:08
And. 01:50:13
We could not. They wanted to come upon the property. 01:50:14
To clean up. 01:50:19
Asbestos. So what we had to do? 01:50:20
Is we could not sign authorization for them to come on to the property because it was owned. 01:50:23
The properties were owned by the State of Arizona and carried the board. 01:50:29
So to remedy that. 01:50:33
The county purchased the proper. 01:50:34
For a dollar each. 01:50:37
That allowed the board chairman to sign. 01:50:38
To do the remediation which was done. 01:50:42
And now when it's a county owned property. 01:50:45
Per Statue to sell. 01:50:48
A county owned property you must. 01:50:50
First of all, get an appraisal that's required by statute. 01:50:52
And you could pass that cost along to the potential buyer. 01:50:56
But you must sell the property for 90% of the appraised value. 01:50:59
That's the problem. Where are you going to find? 01:51:04
Someone who's willing to pay 90% of the appraised value. 01:51:06
Well, I think property and Hayden wouldn't approach for a whole lot. 01:51:10
I mean it it it it. 01:51:14
It's it's not a place that. 01:51:16
Live anymore, especially now that the mind shut down and things of that so. 01:51:20
I would think that property there would not. 01:51:23
Praise for a lot of. 01:51:26
Of money. 01:51:27
At this point in time. 01:51:28
Right. And then. 01:51:30
And as we were saying earlier, if you have someone interested in purchasing a county owned property, stay in Hayden. 01:51:31
Get him in touch with. 01:51:38
You know Tom element. 01:51:40
And then then the board, the process would be to bring it before the board through an agenda quick item and then the work would 01:51:43
consider selling. OK, so, so. 01:51:47
My question asked and answered. 01:51:52
If someone wants to buy one of our Corning owned properties. 01:51:54
In Hayden. 01:51:57
I'll tell him thank you. Other duties. Thanks for being here today. 01:52:00
Folks, that same process will go for the 20 acres in Payson. 01:52:07
Call Tom. 01:52:10
You an appraiser I guess. 01:52:14
I don't think your phones gonna be. I appreciate it. 01:52:18
OK, what else? We'll figure out who the appropriate person is. 01:52:23
We don't know, but we'll be. 01:52:28
OK. 01:52:30
We can move on to the state owned properties. 01:52:32
And again we have a. 01:52:34
A whole list of properties in here. 01:52:36
And this speaks to Supervisor Humphreys, comments with CSA and Todd and Andy. 01:52:38
Regarding uh. 01:52:44
Blighted properties if you look at this presentation. 01:52:46
There's quite a few properties that the state of Arizona owns in care of Gila County. 01:52:49
Board of Supervisors. 01:52:54
That are dilapidated, falling down. 01:52:56
Then the question that we were asking is. 01:52:59
What can the county do? 01:53:02
Which leads us to the discussion before Tandy and Todd. 01:53:03
Is. 01:53:07
Really. Really. 01:53:08
Gila County can't really do much with these properties. 01:53:09
Other than. 01:53:12
Just bite the bullet. 01:53:13
Clean it up. 01:53:15
And take the financial loss. 01:53:16
Or purchase the property. 01:53:18
To clean it up and then we would. 01:53:20
Own that property like the other properties in Hayden Lincoln. 01:53:22
So we would get into sort of the real estate business if we made that decision if the board. 01:53:25
Send staff in that direction so. 01:53:31
That's sort of what we were discussing as a group. 01:53:34
What that would look like we were looking at some of the state statutes. 01:53:37
And there really is nothing in there. 01:53:42
To allow the county to. 01:53:45
Try to clean up these properties. 01:53:47
And get some of that financial responsibility. 01:53:50
Back to us. 01:53:53
So we would. 01:53:54
In fact, currently we use the health department. 01:53:56
And some of the worst properties out there that have. 01:53:59
Public health issues. 01:54:02
That. 01:54:05
Post that property and then we pay to go get that property cleaned up. 01:54:06
And we do put a lien on the property. 01:54:10
But we also know that it's very unlikely we're going to get some of that money back. 01:54:13
Because those properties are sitting. 01:54:18
For decades in Gila County. So that's sort of the challenge that we've discovered would be. 01:54:20
State owned properties in Hilo County. 01:54:26
So are there any questions about? 01:54:28
This. Yes, Sir. 01:54:31
So it would be the same process as what happened in 18. 01:54:33
Basically. 01:54:37
So if it's state owned. 01:54:38
And correct me if I'm wrong, Michael. 01:54:41
Stayed home. We buy it from the state for. 01:54:43
Dollar if there's a property that. 01:54:46
Supervisor Humphrey wants to clean up. 01:54:49
He becomes he'll account his property. 01:54:51
We clean it up and then we could ask property owners. 01:54:55
We could actually turn around and put it on. 01:54:58
Or cell block. 01:55:01
Which may be if. 01:55:03
If the. 01:55:04
Neighbors you know might want. 01:55:06
Be interested in toward me we could recoup our money or something like that for the cleanup. 01:55:08
Umm, the problem that I. 01:55:14
The only problem that I would see with doing something like that is. 01:55:16
Were almost in the. 01:55:20
Land Business. 01:55:21
You know that's. 01:55:23
That's that's the. 01:55:24
That's the. 01:55:25
Would be one of the big issues for me and. 01:55:27
And justice? How much money? 01:55:29
Is there that we would have to? 01:55:32
Soak in the properties on cleanup in any given year. 01:55:35
I mean, it's a worthy project. 01:55:39
Then it's a chance that. 01:55:41
That you could, you know. 01:55:44
Basically flipped the property. 01:55:46
But it didn't work in Hayden. 01:55:48
You know, we did that in Hayden. 01:55:51
And Hayden's a. 01:55:53
There's other circumstances with Hayden, I know that. 01:55:55
So you can't really use that as a good example, but. 01:55:58
But that is an. 01:56:03
Opportunity that we could do as a county, right? 01:56:06
Chairman, members of the board, certainly. 01:56:09
And keep in mind that the last step. 01:56:11
Is if the county purchases the property for a dollar. 01:56:13
We clean it up. 01:56:17
In order for us to sell it, we still have to sell it for 90% of the appraised value, right, So. 01:56:20
So, uh. 01:56:26
As far as the financials go. 01:56:27
You know, if you if you purchase a property and you spend twenty, $30,000 cleaning it. 01:56:29
What is the property? 01:56:35
Ultimately worth when you clean it up and is it worth spending that 2030 thousand to clean it up? 01:56:36
And then sell it. 01:56:42
And only get maybe 5 or $6000 back. So let me ask one more question because I know you got a ton of women and I might need your 01:56:43
input here. 01:56:47
You know, we've cleaned up some properties already. 01:56:52
What? What has been kind of the average? 01:56:55
I know it depends on the site and everything like that, but. 01:56:58
What's been kind of just an average ballpark cost that we've spent so far in cleanups? 01:57:02
Approximately right now, Supervisor Klein. 01:57:07
And members of the board, it's about 7 to $10,000 to do. 01:57:10
Basically. 01:57:15
A lot of the junk off the property and collapse. Some of the many of these properties have. 01:57:16
All chess pools in a collapse of cesspool so. 01:57:21
7 to $10,000 for some of the properties for some of the. 01:57:24
Larger properties. 01:57:28
Closer to 15. 01:57:30
$15,000. 01:57:32
So that's where you know if you had a smaller property, you put 7. 01:57:35
Say, put $8000 into that cleanup and the. 01:57:40
Assessed value is maybe 6. 01:57:44
But on the other hand, you're putting it back on. 01:57:47
Textuals as well. 01:57:50
Yes, supervisor and and some of the. 01:57:52
Impacts that. 01:57:54
That we look at. 01:57:56
You know public health. 01:57:58
Societies, a lot of these properties are being used. Umm. 01:58:00
To you know. 01:58:04
Sell drugs. 01:58:06
Have squatters in there? 01:58:07
And that brings a lot of crime to the area, so. 01:58:09
So that's also part of the. 01:58:12
Getting rid of some of these properties can reduce that. 01:58:14
In Gila County as well. 01:58:19
I agree. 01:58:21
Yeah, OK. Yeah, jumping up a bit. 01:58:22
Umm, anyway. 01:58:26
Yeah, you said, you know, crime and all the drugs and. 01:58:27
And, you know, gets built in the neighborhood. 01:58:31
So kind of where I'm at is. 01:58:33
Let's test the water. 01:58:35
And the reason being is I don't have a crystal ball. 01:58:37
Like cowboy hat something. 01:58:40
Kind of the same thing. 01:58:41
Anyway, going forward. 01:58:43
Like you said, a lot of the state owned properties, the reason they're state owned properties is because no one can live. 01:58:47
Investors have purchased them or people. 01:58:53
Had to move out because of the cesspool filled and things like this. 01:58:55
Well, I happen to know that. 01:58:59
Tri-City is going. 01:59:02
Construction here required they they. 01:59:04
They're out Forbid. 01:59:06
So looking at the future. 01:59:08
A lot of these places are not going to. 01:59:11
Need their failed cesspool. 01:59:14
And they are not large enough of the lots to put in a septic tank. 01:59:18
And. 01:59:22
But there is a sewer system. 01:59:23
Going in. 01:59:27
And I have faith in this, I mean. 01:59:29
You know, again, that's a heavy lift, but they're working on it. They've been working on it for a long time, but at least they're 01:59:31
out forbid now. 01:59:34
So by testing the water and that's public information that there's going to be sewer to a lot of these places that don't have it 01:59:39
now. 01:59:42
So some of our work. 01:59:46
Places. I mean I would be willing for the county to purchase them. 01:59:48
Clean them up. 01:59:53
Get them appraised because they don't have a sewer septic so they're not going to praise very much. 01:59:55
Because all you can do is use them as a storage plot. 01:59:59
And some of these investors? 02:00:03
Would probably be interested in purchasing them now that they're claimed. 02:00:06
Knowing. 02:00:11
That a sewer system is on its way. 02:00:12
To some of those areas. 02:00:16
Now, does the county want to be in the development business? 02:00:19
No, they don't. 02:00:21
But we would. We would clean up our neighborhoods so we wouldn't have the blight. We wouldn't have the filth. 02:00:23
And we could tell our constituents that we're cleaning it up as we can. 02:00:30
Support you but then too once we get some of these. 02:00:34
Places cleaned up. 02:00:39
And our local Realtors know some investors. 02:00:41
That know that the sewer is coming. 02:00:45
They may be willing to. 02:00:49
A for that property and if we've only got a dollar invested. 02:00:53
And the cost of cleaning it up. 02:00:58
I believe testing the water that even if we broke even, it would be a big win. 02:01:02
In some of these neighborhoods. 02:01:09
And so if we sold it for a percentage of the appraised value. 02:01:11
Then that would just give us money and like I say, test the water. 02:01:17
If we could put in a budget so. 02:01:21
You know, put in a budget for X amount of doubt. 02:01:23
So we purchase and clean up property, so we're out of those dollars. 02:01:26
Until we sell something. 02:01:30
We don't tell them. 02:01:31
Bad idea. 02:01:32
We spend a little money trying. 02:01:33
But at least we cleaned up some of these neighborhoods a little bit. 02:01:35
And down the road? 02:01:38
Tri-City gets in Phase 2. 02:01:40
Maybe they will. 02:01:42
So my 2 senses you know. 02:01:45
I would I would be willing to test the water. 02:01:48
You know not to say, yeah, let's just do it. Let. 02:01:51
But I'd be willing to say let's test the water. 02:01:54
Because I do know in my district a lot of these properties. 02:01:57
Will have sewer. 02:02:01
In the future. 02:02:03
You know. 02:02:05
It's going to happen. 02:02:06
Is it going to happen in the next three years? I don't know. 02:02:08
Is it going to happen in the next 5? I don't know. 02:02:11
If I did, I'd been lying to buy a most of these properties, but. 02:02:14
But as a supervisor I would like to clean up some of these areas. 02:02:17
And give some investors. 02:02:21
The opportunity. 02:02:23
To to try because that's the difference between Hayden. 02:02:25
Hayden is going. 02:02:28
John and and Claypool Central Heights areas, some of those areas. 02:02:29
You know is. 02:02:33
That's where Tri-City sewer is going to go. 02:02:35
And that's a lot of these state owned products. 02:02:37
Well, I think another good benefit is is this as well and. 02:02:39
And, umm. 02:02:43
And I I own a property in. 02:02:45
Sims district in Claypool, so I see a lot of these different places around there. 02:02:48
And a lot of them are just tweaker. 02:02:53
And, and quite honestly, that's pouring down the whole neighborhood. 02:02:56
I I sat there, me and Kathy did in a Hayden town hall meeting one day and listened to. 02:03:00
An older couple that lived on a block there in Hayden. 02:03:06
And that's besides them. That's all that was there. It was a bunch of druggies and they were pleading with the councils. And is 02:03:10
there anything you guys can do? Can you? 02:03:14
Railroad them out of here and I think. 02:03:18
I think that might be a good stance. 02:03:20
I don't disagree with. 02:03:23
With trying to clean up the. 02:03:25
The trash part of it, obviously. 02:03:26
But for what I've seen. 02:03:30
And uh. 02:03:31
Kind of living around it over there in Kim's district is you get those kind of. 02:03:32
Of houses in there and then the squatters are moving in and then their buddies are there preaching their dealing drugs out of them 02:03:37
preaching, you got cops on. 02:03:42
The corners hanging out and the whole whole bit, we all know it. 02:03:46
We get it. 02:03:50
So there may be an opportunity. 02:03:51
Don't disagree with the fact that we ought to give it. 02:03:55
Maybe think about giving it a shot and do a run at it. 02:03:57
Is to take something like that. 02:04:01
Turn on these neighborhoods around and get the. 02:04:04
The the good people back in there that need to be in there. 02:04:06
I think in the long run it may take a while, but between? 02:04:12
Maybe selling something at 90% value plus getting it back on the tax roll. See, the county would eventually get its money back. 02:04:16
And bring a better neighborhood back into some of these communities. 02:04:23
And so. 02:04:28
Yes, Sir. 02:04:33
Mr. Chairman. 02:04:35
We have. 02:04:37
As has been noted in discussions. 02:04:38
Therefore that we've had that. 02:04:41
We have put about, I think that last year, about 100,000 into the budget. 02:04:42
Use that to clean up some properties. 02:04:47
We were going to put more in maybe up to a quarter million. I'm not sure what the. 02:04:49
Challenge that we had with the budget. 02:04:53
That we do have some money in the budget that we could. 02:04:55
Have the discussion potentially go that. 02:04:57
This is Melvin and I did. 02:04:59
Make a visit to to Palace Superior. They've had a program for a number of years where they. 02:05:01
Five properties, picks them up and then sell them. 02:05:05
Is started with some seed money. 02:05:09
And then they just. 02:05:11
Buy the properties, fix them up and sell them. 02:05:14
Is kept money in. 02:05:16
Fun, I'm sure. Mayor message. 02:05:18
And kind of superior would come and. 02:05:20
Glad to come and talk about that. What the mechanics? 02:05:23
Of going through that process are. 02:05:26
I unfortunately did go visit with House Bureau and have not. 02:05:28
Taking any action. Have not moved that forward yet, but. 02:05:32
With your conversation today, we'll be glad to do that. 02:05:35
That's something you would. 02:05:38
Think would be good information to have what their program has been. 02:05:40
Thank you. 02:05:45
So, Michael, if you're able to designate a property as a health. 02:05:46
Issue. 02:05:51
Is there money grant money available to? 02:05:52
Help remediate that. 02:05:55
Or is it, Is all of this cost just going to be honest? 02:05:57
So I'll answer. 02:06:01
In two different ways. 02:06:03
Chairman. 02:06:05
So yes and no. So. 02:06:06
When we go and find a property that's a public health nuisance that. 02:06:08
Meets the Arizona State statute 36601 definition with a public health nuisance is. 02:06:13
Or an environmental. 02:06:19
Nuisance, right? Title 49. 02:06:21
Those those state statutes. 02:06:23
Delegated to the health department to make that determination. 02:06:27
If it's an immediate environmental. 02:06:30
Hazard under Title 49. 02:06:32
We can. 02:06:35
Tag the home. 02:06:36
Or the property just notify whoever it is there some sometimes nobody's there, right? Sometimes these properties have absolutely 02:06:38
no ownership. 02:06:42
And then? 02:06:46
Within 24 hours. 02:06:47
After we post that. 02:06:49
The health department can hire somebody. 02:06:51
To clean up that nuisance. 02:06:53
Which typically means cleaning up the entire property. 02:06:56
With some of these properties, there's 456 vehicles. 02:06:59
You know, chirping. 02:07:04
Oil, transmission fluid, all that stuff. 02:07:06
That cost is. 02:07:08
Mr. Men love. 02:07:11
In his mention of $100,000. 02:07:12
And next year, I believe he was kind enough and the board was kind enough to give us $150,000. 02:07:15
To spend on cleaning up these properties, we do not get that. 02:07:20
Money back? 02:07:25
We put a lien on that property. 02:07:26
Our County Attorney has recommended that we put a lien on every property we clean up. 02:07:28
So we don't own those properties, we just have a lien on them. 02:07:33
Property. The chances are that we'll get money back. 02:07:37
In claiming of any of that lien. 02:07:40
Is very little, very slim. 02:07:44
The second part of that question is we do own liking Globe. 02:07:46
The Willow Motel here. 02:07:50
And, umm. 02:07:52
Kathy Melvin. 02:07:54
Is working with. 02:07:55
Our health department. 02:07:56
And Kathy's great at getting brownfield grants. 02:07:58
Through the EPA. 02:08:01
Which will allow us to demo that. 02:08:02
Property, so that's being paid for by a grant. 02:08:06
So there's. 02:08:08
Two ways we can get. 02:08:09
Cleanup. 02:08:11
Typically the residential homes in the unincorporated areas. 02:08:12
We pay for out of general fund with 100,000 dollars 150,000. 02:08:16
And the larger projects. 02:08:21
We really need help on. 02:08:23
Such as a brownfield grants the EPA, which Kathy is. 02:08:24
Helping. 02:08:28
Our director of public health yet? 02:08:29
Yes, Sir, if you finish. 02:08:33
If I may just kind of comment that this process seems very expansive, potentially very expensive. 02:08:34
To do and so we have to. 02:08:41
Kind of wonder where we're gonna. 02:08:44
How much we're going to do and. 02:08:46
It's just like a big. 02:08:50
Money Pit. 02:08:52
Seems like to me. 02:08:53
But it's got to be done. 02:08:54
And we're the ones left on. 02:08:56
So. 02:08:58
And Chairman and members of the Board, I will tell you this, one of the benefits we're seeing is the. 02:09:00
Almost cleaning up these properties. 02:09:05
The umm. 02:09:07
Neighboring residents. 02:09:09
Are are seeing the benefits as well? 02:09:10
And, and when we're cleaning up these properties there, there's rats, there's insects, there's all sorts of things that we're 02:09:14
getting rid of as well. 02:09:17
And the neighbors are seeing that those benefits as well. 02:09:21
One neighborhood was catching rattlesnakes from a property. 02:09:25
And and rats that were coming in. So we cleaned up that property so. 02:09:28
We're seeing a lot of good benefits from that. 02:09:32
Residents that neighbor these properties as well and they're they're extremely. 02:09:34
Extremely thankful that we're at least looking at these. 02:09:39
Yeah. I, I would say that that's almost 2 budgets because one would be to. 02:09:43
Clean up property that are the investment properties or things of that nature that are a health problem. 02:09:48
And so that's what. 02:09:55
Is in our. 02:09:57
The 100,000 or 150,000? 02:09:59
That's kind of what that's budgeted for is cleaning up. 02:10:01
Properties. 02:10:05
But that wouldn't be cleaning up property that the county owned. 02:10:07
That we bought for a dollar. 02:10:11
And unless you want to run them out of the same budget. 02:10:13
You're the accountant. 02:10:17
You know, because there would be a difference between properties that we're cleaning up that will never get anything back other 02:10:18
than. 02:10:21
Its lead but some of the state owned property if we bought those and cleaned those up and put them off for sale. 02:10:24
Then I mean that would be an accounting thing on when we run them out of the same budget. 02:10:33
And so you know, I. 02:10:38
I would very much like to test the water and see. 02:10:41
How, how beneficial or how? 02:10:45
How investors feel about. 02:10:49
Some of the areas that. 02:10:52
Tri-City Sanitation. 02:10:53
Is trying to put sewer in. 02:10:55
And if the investors like that? 02:10:58
Or were able to sell them. 02:11:01
Then what a great thing that would be to clean up a lot of these areas. 02:11:04
That people don't live in because they can't use. 02:11:09
And so. 02:11:12
Anyway, and if I may, Supervisor Humphrey, if you like me. 02:11:14
To do I could reach out to our. 02:11:18
Top, I would say about 10 investors. 02:11:20
And justice pose that. 02:11:23
Idea that suggestion. 02:11:24
You see now these are the ones that. 02:11:27
Are no hold on. So these are the ones that do do the foreclosure process? 02:11:30
They're just a small handful that follow through, and they do. 02:11:35
Do the foreclosure by going through the courts. 02:11:39
So I wouldn't say. 02:11:42
To the others who don't. 02:11:44
Yeah, because some of those investments have 100 properties and some of them are. 02:11:45
Creating problems for us, but these are just the top ten. Yeah, so it so if you have. 02:11:49
Good doobies and bad dubies, then if you want to talk to the good doobies, that's fine, but don't talk to the bad movies because 02:11:54
we've got enough problems, those guys already. 02:11:58
And those I can identify, yes. 02:12:02
So my my two cents would be as if we do something like this, I'd like to see it under one budget line. I don't. 02:12:06
And I'd like first all settle on the amount we feel comfortable or our budget feels comfortable that we could. 02:12:13
Put into this to try it. 02:12:19
I I agree it would be worth a try and I would. 02:12:21
I would like to be real focused on on the properties that's. 02:12:26
That's selected that we have a better chance of. 02:12:30
Done something with? 02:12:33
Of selling. 02:12:34
Mr. Chairman, you already claimed we have 150,000 hundred 150,000 in the budget. 02:12:37
For property cleanup, we can use that as directed by the board. 02:12:41
And this coming year? 02:12:45
I'm good. 02:12:50
All right, thank you. So anymore. 02:12:51
You need to add to your presentation. 02:12:53
Thankfully, no, Sir. 02:12:55
Is there any from the other members of the panel that were? 02:12:57
Like have a comment? 02:13:00
I opened my mouth and you give me work. 02:13:02
Yeah, there's nothing else on this item. 02:13:06
I hope you were given a. 02:13:09
Some direction there and. 02:13:10
Appreciate. 02:13:12
Appreciate what you guys do. 02:13:14
Thank you, Chairman. 02:13:15
One question. 02:13:18
On all of this. 02:13:20
We kind of talked about. 02:13:22
Properties. 02:13:23
Blinded Properties. Hayden Properties. Basin Properties. 02:13:24
Is there something in these properties? 02:13:29
That you felt made. 02:13:34
That made it to be discussed today. 02:13:36
That we haven't. 02:13:39
Tapped into that. 02:13:41
To give you. 02:13:42
Information going forward. 02:13:44
I mean because like I say. 02:13:47
You know properties and we've talked about several and to do some about some. 02:13:48
Is there something that we didn't touch? 02:13:53
Today. Umm. 02:13:55
That you would feel that. 02:13:56
We need to kind of touch today. 02:13:59
For you to get direction on. 02:14:01
Supervisor home. Three members of board. No, I think. 02:14:03
I think I've gotten. 02:14:06
Plenty ideas from the Board of Supervisors today to move forward. 02:14:07
With. 02:14:12
Talking with county administration. 02:14:13
And possibly were to. 02:14:15
Direct this program next. So thank you very much. Same question. 02:14:17
Good direction. 02:14:22
OK, yeah, But there's nothing that you feel that we haven't tapped that many. 02:14:25
To be tapped today. 02:14:29
OK. Thank you. I'm good. 02:14:32
OK. Thank you very much. 02:14:34
Thank you. 02:14:36
Ladies and gentlemen, so. 02:14:37
Our last item Item 2D information discussion with Ashley Dixon. Clever. 02:14:39
From the University of Arizona Cooperative Extension to recognize the current services. 02:14:44
They provide residents of Hewlett County. 02:14:49
And forthcoming changes due to Renee Karstens retirement. 02:14:51
Actually, did I pronounce your name correctly? 02:14:56
OK, very good. 02:15:00
Good afternoon, Ashley. 02:15:02
Thank you so much. You may recognize me. I was here. 02:15:07
A couple weeks ago, presenting. 02:15:11
I think that was more of your finance. 02:15:14
Yeah, presentation, but. 02:15:17
I just wanted to introduce myself. 02:15:19
I've been in now the new county director, the interim county director for extension. 02:15:22
Since as you know, Renee. 02:15:28
To be retiring. 02:15:30
So I wanted to kind of go over some of the things that we're offering currently and then. 02:15:32
Also discussed potentially. 02:15:37
Any changes or updates that you all have? 02:15:40
Have or concern? 02:15:44
That you have. 02:15:46
Umm, so currently. 02:15:47
We are still offering a lot of different things for each. Obviously that you all are very. 02:15:50
Familiar with? 02:15:56
We're doing personal finance programming. 02:15:57
Parenting doing. 02:16:00
Free hearing and vision screenings for a zero to five year old. So we do those screenings on young children. 02:16:02
Then refer them to primary care or. 02:16:09
Eye doctors, whatever is needed. 02:16:12
We have all of our tribal programming going on right now still. 02:16:15
That we're continuing to offer. 02:16:21
Early Literacy to improve literacy rates in San Carlos. 02:16:23
Juan Adias is also doing. 02:16:28
A lot having to do with agriculture, natural resources, ranching in San Carlos as well as 4H specifically. 02:16:32
In San Carlos. 02:16:40
We're doing Master Gardener work still. 02:16:42
I think currently there's. 02:16:44
There's a program going on right now or a series going on in Payson for that. 02:16:47
And. 02:16:51
And then Ashley Hall is still continuing to do range monitoring and that kind of thing. 02:16:53
So all of those things are continuing, but. 02:17:00
Now with a vacancy of not having a 4H agent, we do still have two staff that are 4H. 02:17:03
But in the interim, I am going to be kind of helping. We're hoping that we can hire some kind of program coordinator senior. 02:17:11
But uh. 02:17:20
That's not up to me, it's up to the. 02:17:20
The bigger powers that be. So I, we, Renee and I worked on a request to put in. 02:17:23
And even mentioned that you all voiced that you know you were concerned about that. 02:17:30
And so I'm gonna follow up this week with a conversation with our extension director, but. 02:17:36
I wanted to introduce myself so that you all. 02:17:43
Knew me. If there are issues that arise, please reach out. 02:17:46
And also not only issues, but if you have things that you feel like. 02:17:51
Our gaps that could be filled by extension I would also be. 02:17:55
Interested in hearing those. 02:18:00
Beyond that? 02:18:03
I think that's pretty much it. I did want to invite everybody. 02:18:05
We're doing an open house on Friday at our office that's also kind of a going away. I know 2 of you can't. 02:18:09
Be in one place at the same time or something like that I think. 02:18:17
That doesn't mean we will be. 02:18:22
You probably always spend more time with each other than you have. 02:18:26
No. 02:18:29
I'm gonna be in Tucson. 02:18:31
OK. 02:18:32
OK. But I, I did want to extend the invitation were and that's for everybody here. 02:18:33
We're gonna. All the program areas are gonna. 02:18:41
Have you know things set up? 02:18:44
To discuss the different things going on but also. 02:18:46
More importantly, it is going to be a going away for for Renee in her time. 02:18:50
That she has spent in Gila County so. 02:18:56
That's from 12:50 and you can see. 02:18:59
Feel free to drop in anytime between that. 02:19:02
And just and you can meet all of our staff. 02:19:05
That kind of thing too, if anybody is available. So I wanted to ask you if you have any. 02:19:08
Questions. Concerns that I can help with right now. 02:19:15
Or that I can find out information. 02:19:19
I think you actually sit by. 02:19:22
Questions or concerns? No. 02:19:25
Questions other than. 02:19:27
If people have local issues with their 4H leadership. 02:19:29
I would like. 02:19:34
To know where to direct them to. 02:19:35
OK, umm, and. 02:19:37
And you know, that's and my concern is for a few. 02:19:38
Is big. 02:19:42
Around here and. 02:19:44
I would like it to. 02:19:47
Go as well as possible because I feel it's. 02:19:48
Very good for our youth. 02:19:52
To be a part of. 02:19:53
And I would hate for them to be discouraged in any way but. 02:19:55
If there are, so I'm going to say Tweet Bishop is going to be the person here. 02:19:59
Continuing to do 4H but if there are major issues I. 02:20:06
Please direct them to me for right now and I can. 02:20:10
Figure out what to do. I'm not. I will. I will admit 4H is not my background. I've been an extension for 12:00. Well 15 years 02:20:13
almost so. 02:20:18
I can figure it out, it's just not my area of expertise. But. 02:20:23
I know who to reach out to so. 02:20:28
Yeah, definitely. Thank you for that. 02:20:30
By the client actually. Thank you for being here. 02:20:33
But yes, for each to me very important in whatever we can do to support 4H and keep it going, we really. 02:20:36
I really want to do that. 02:20:43
So it's. 02:20:44
Real important to see. I hope they they. 02:20:46
For the person back in Renee's position, and we go on a lot of 4H kids here in Gila County. 02:20:49
And, umm. 02:20:56
We need to keep it going. 02:20:58
So, but thank you. 02:20:59
Yeah, thank you actually for. 02:21:02
Coming here today and introducing yourself and. 02:21:03
But you know the shooting sports. 02:21:06
Are important I think in the 4H. 02:21:09
Ground for both North and South. 02:21:11
Keep that going and keep this thing rolling. Make sure that you express to Renee. 02:21:14
The appreciation we have for all the work she had done and wish her the best in retirement. 02:21:20
I will. So yeah. 02:21:25
And thank you for your contribution for the shooting sports, definitely also enormous so. 02:21:27
Yeah, I. 02:21:33
I will and. 02:21:34
And I I. 02:21:35
Could give you my cards or would it be easier just to? 02:21:37
Hand handed to my assistant. She's right behind it. OK, I will give those. 02:21:40
Thank you so that everybody has my cell phone number too. 02:21:45
Yeah, we'll take cards, whatever you got. 02:21:49
OK. So we appreciate that. Is there any other questions for Ashley? 02:21:51
I'm good, thank you. 02:21:55
OK. Thank you so much. Nice to meet you all. Thank you. All right, we're gonna keep moving. Then call to the public. Anyone here 02:21:56
in Globe? 02:22:00
The Internet. 02:22:04
No, how many we have today, Cassandra. 02:22:06
Awesome. 81. OK. 02:22:13
Now for our reports management. 02:22:15
Mr. Chairman, members of board, we are planning to have lunch. 02:22:18
Here as soon as we can and bring this. 02:22:21
Copper Bistro for the board and. 02:22:23
Board staff, we have it posted so that. 02:22:26
We can and we do enjoy being together. 02:22:29
No decisions or anything will be made, but we can have conversations. 02:22:32
We've made enough decisions. 02:22:37
So that is immediately following. Please plan to attend the Copper Bistro. 02:22:41
And I will be traveling. 02:22:46
All of next week, so I'm likely to miss next week's. 02:22:48
Or meeting, there are some things that we're going to get on the agenda, which will be the following. 02:22:52
Meeting SO. 02:22:56
I'll cut that off there. 02:22:58
Today, Mr. Chairman, thank you. Thank you, Supervisor Humphrey. 02:23:00
Yeah. 02:23:03
I met with Michael and staff on the 23rd. 02:23:04
And I'll attend. 02:23:09
The uh. 02:23:12
The luncheon. 02:23:13
For the Tunnel Creek Bridge. 02:23:14
Thursday in Tucson. 02:23:16
You know some other Christian super planner? 02:23:21
Thank you very much for a productive work session today. I think it went well. I think we've got a lot done. 02:23:24
I just wanted to bring up the fact that we've got a lot of capital projects and a lot of things going on. 02:23:30
And on our work session if we go. 02:23:36
Two hours a month. 02:23:38
Times 12 months, that's only. 02:23:39
24 hours of discussion. 02:23:41
Projects that are coming up in the future. 02:23:43
And so if we go 4 hours, you know. 02:23:46
I I, I don't mind if I've got the day to take a lunch break and come back to. 02:23:50
Do some more on work sessions if we have things to discuss. 02:23:56
So I just thought I'd bring that up and. 02:24:00
You know, if you guys don't mind you. 02:24:02
Come all this way if there's things. 02:24:05
That we need to go over in work sessions. 02:24:07
If we could. 02:24:09
May be continuing and because let's say we. 02:24:10
We've got a lot of capital projects coming up. The property thing I'm sure come backing at us now that they've got. 02:24:13
Things so I just wondering how? 02:24:20
You guys might feel about. 02:24:22
More work session. 02:24:24
Time as needed. 02:24:26
And that's all I have. 02:24:29
Thank you, supervisor, and I'll add to that comment that I agree with that we should meet as often as necessary. 02:24:30
Not just what is normally prudent. 02:24:37
And so if we need to have longer. 02:24:39
Or we need to have. 02:24:42
More often. 02:24:44
Then I would I would agree with that. 02:24:45
We are here to conduct the business of the county. 02:24:48
And if it requires more time. 02:24:51
And we then that's why we're here. 02:24:52
Supervisor Klein. 02:24:54
I I'm with you guys. 02:24:56
You know I. 02:24:57
I make the commitment to be here and. 02:24:59
Hit these meetings like we're supposed to be done and if. 02:25:02
Can and make a whole day out of I'm good, all I need is a break in the middle of day. 02:25:05
But I agree with. 02:25:09
With Supervisor Humphrey and you Steve, that you know, we have a lot of things come. 02:25:11
You know, we have landfill issues we have. 02:25:17
Other things that as a group we need to be able to sit down and have the time to discuss. 02:25:20
And we very seldom can do that on a regular agenda item. 02:25:26
In our regular meetings. 02:25:29
And so to stack this up and get some of these work sessions done. 02:25:31
Michael Michael really likes putting all these together and staying on top of it, so he's all for it. I'm. 02:25:35
Positive is all for it. 02:25:41
So anyway. 02:25:42
With that, what I would say was. 02:25:47
Last Wednesday as Arizona, Mexico coalition of. 02:25:50
Of county meeting in Thatcher. 02:25:53
Is Arizona State categories meeting and they usually have in conjunction with that with Arizona? 02:25:56
Helgur's meeting and the New Mexico Calgary's meeting, so. 02:26:02
The next one will be in Albuquerque. 02:26:06
In December when this. 02:26:08
New Mexico cattle growers have their meetings. 02:26:10
And so I'll be at that one as well. 02:26:13
Umm. 02:26:16
You know. 02:26:19
Lot of lot of different issues but right now the big one is the wolf issue. 02:26:21
Umm, the the Feds administration up there had actually. 02:26:25
Put more or less a cease. 02:26:30
Deal on spending any dollars when it comes to the wolves. 02:26:33
They're paying salaries for people that's in place, but they're not giving them any travel money any. 02:26:37
Project money, helicopter time, tracking time, or anything like that right now. 02:26:42
I don't know really how that's going to play out. That's been a big discussion. 02:26:47
With not only Arizona, Mexico. 02:26:52
Coalition counties, but also in our eco group. 02:26:54
The Wolf project is actually. 02:26:58
What is was a project passed? 02:27:01
And through Congress and all that. So it's. 02:27:04
It's all it's in place there, but. 02:27:07
So I don't know if they're just playing. 02:27:09
A game and hold the funding back without really saying that I don't know where it's gonna go. 02:27:12
But right now it's. 02:27:17
It's kind of a. 02:27:18
Checkmate between both sides. 02:27:19
And the ranching community is saying. 02:27:22
Yeah, this is great. 02:27:25
Let's just go ahead and delist and get rid of everything and. 02:27:27
Whatnot. And then? 02:27:31
The other side, the biodiversity side and those folks over there, they're saying this is just a temporary hold up there. 02:27:33
They're just evaluating budgets like we've seen them do. 02:27:41
You know, they were, they seemed to went through a lot of different departments. 02:27:45
Going through budgets and things like that. So I don't know really where it's going. 02:27:48
I have worked in Kathy put together a resolution that will come up in front of us next week. 02:27:52
On the wolf, so that's coming up. 02:27:58
We'll talk more about. 02:28:00
But that was a big part of that meeting right there. 02:28:02
And then yesterday. 02:28:07
Yeah, yesterday. 02:28:11
I was invited to attend a. 02:28:13
East Valley Copper Corridor Transportation meeting. 02:28:18
As put together by Mayor. 02:28:21
And Senator Farnsworth. 02:28:24
Was the one conducting the meeting. 02:28:26
And so. 02:28:29
What they're really looking at is Hwy. 60. 02:28:30
The way it comes through and goes all the way through and all that, and the fact that when we have a. 02:28:34
A snafu. 02:28:40
They dynamite to me. 02:28:41
Too much of the hillside or there's a. 02:28:42
Has erected, closes the highway. 02:28:44
Yari. 02:28:47
You're done. 02:28:48
You're not going to get up here. 02:28:49
You know, without going. 02:28:51
Lay around and whatever your gun isn't going to make it. Also the 177 going through. 02:28:53
Through Hayden and Winkelmann is just horrible and so. 02:28:58
So there there. 02:29:01
There, they brought it to the table yesterday and send their Farnsworth was talking about there's a. 02:29:03
Proposed Rd. I guess. And Craig, you might know about the 505 interchange. 02:29:09
That's taking place and that's a North and South. 02:29:14
Road you'll tie in with the 24. 02:29:17
And come out of Gold Canyon right there. So it's running North and South, so. 02:29:19
Say for instance like. 02:29:23
Pleaded yesterday or day before 60 was actually closed. 02:29:26
Because of a. 02:29:30
Wreck or a fatality? 02:29:31
And so there was no way of going around it. 02:29:33
And so not easily anyway, so there. 02:29:35
That's all. 02:29:39
Being kicked around and tossed around right now. 02:29:40
Senator Farnsworth talked. 02:29:43
About. 02:29:44
ADOT Transportation Board the projects. 02:29:46
The money. 02:29:50
He, you know, there's, he had a lot to say about different. 02:29:51
Projects. The 347 was another one which we heard in Payson that day that we were all up there. 02:29:55
And so we're going to see more of this come about. There's going to be more discussion on it. 02:30:03
And So what they're. 02:30:08
They're really talking about besides the 5:05. 02:30:09
Project. 02:30:14
And whatnot, but from. 02:30:16
From a superior from the. 02:30:17
Tunnel basically. 02:30:19
On this way. 02:30:21
You know, if something happens there, it closes the road again. 02:30:23
Or, uh. 02:30:26
If there in fact ends up being some money and they decide to have another adopt project. 02:30:27
What's that gonna look like? You know you have. 02:30:33
You know you have those that bluffy country come through there, that rock pile and when you start blasting, blasting and dynamite 02:30:36
that. 02:30:39
It's no different than what we see. 02:30:42
Bridge. 02:30:44
How can we help? 02:30:46
Soften that. If there's projects, you know that. Can we do something with the? 02:30:48
With the detours and whatnot, so there's. 02:30:52
There's a least discussion being. 02:30:55
Being made or started yesterday. Apparently there have been discussions before that to some extent. 02:30:57
So anyway, I sit in on that and listen to that one and then. 02:31:02
Yesterday afternoon. 02:31:07
I met with Joseph and Amber and Bianca at the. 02:31:08
Fairgrounds. We looked at the arena. 02:31:12
That was on our agenda here while back. 02:31:15
And so. 02:31:17
I couldn't speak much to that because I hadn't seen it. 02:31:18
So I went out there and took a look at that. 02:31:21
What's being proposed? Is is reasonable? 02:31:24
It would be a better functioning set. 02:31:27
Proposed. Everything's there. The arenas is standing in place. There'd have to be a little change on the design in the of the 02:31:30
arena, but it's easy. It's panels, so you can just switch it. 02:31:35
But it basically be moved from this area over on the north side of the existing. 02:31:40
Arena down there and it it would, it would help. 02:31:45
There's we have a pretty good cost in the material. 02:31:50
Base under that arena when when they put it up. 02:31:54
I don't know what the. 02:31:57
Overall cost was adapt, but that material can actually be. 02:31:59
Reused. 02:32:04
The new setup if we were to swing that around. 02:32:05
But we're looking at money. 02:32:08
And that was my response yesterday. I think it's a worthy project, it just depends on dollars. 02:32:09
And what we can use, it is fortunate we have the DLC crews right there because they can. 02:32:16
They can help us. 02:32:20
Remove the arena from where it's at and put it back up. It's just going to be in a dirt work. 02:32:22
That's gonna be. 02:32:26
Costly. 02:32:28
Other than that, He'll Fly in is coming up in September. 02:32:30
That's pretty quick. 02:32:35
Coming pretty quick, so. 02:32:36
I'm sure you guys are just wanting to go back to DC. 02:32:38
Go to the hill, Steve. 02:32:41
Part of my report. 02:32:46
So anyway, that's coming up and then. 02:32:48
A little later on in October, I've got another WIR meeting in Mono County, California, Bridgeport, California and. 02:32:52
And that meeting will consist of basically setting the WIR budget. 02:33:01
And whatever other. 02:33:05
Other topics we need to discuss at that one SO. 02:33:07
Any questions? 02:33:11
Good. Thank you. 02:33:13
Thanks, Supervisor. 02:33:16
I don't have a lot. I will be going down to Tucson as well. 02:33:19
Or the Tunnel Basin Bridge. 02:33:24
Project of the year. 02:33:26
A form I don't. 02:33:29
Are we? Are we? 02:33:30
The project of the year or is it going to vote? 02:33:32
No, before receiving the award for Project of the year. 02:33:36
We're receiving the award for Project of the Year. 02:33:39
Right here little. 02:33:42
Yeah, I love that. 02:33:44
And so I'll be going down for that. I'll be, I'll see whoever's there. 02:33:45
There and that'll be good and yes. 02:33:48
I am going to be going to the pill conference in September. 02:33:51
And, umm. 02:33:54
Melissa spent all day yesterday just making. 02:33:56
Airline and hotel reservations. 02:34:00
All day and so it's a bit of a pain in the. 02:34:02
Took us to go. 02:34:06
But we're willing to go and I wanted her to try and set up some additional meetings. 02:34:07
Besides just the pill? 02:34:12
Stuff with other players on the hill. 02:34:14
And so. 02:34:17
Probably going to be there a couple of days longer than. 02:34:18
What you would normally attend. 02:34:22
For pill, you know. 02:34:23
Either to try and work on other things. 02:34:25
Well, uh. 02:34:28
It'll be a hopefully a benefit to the. 02:34:28
And with that, I have nothing else. It has been an excellent meeting. I think we did accomplish quite a bit in less time than I 02:34:32
actually predicted so. 02:34:36
Thank you very much. Thank you all for being here. 02:34:41
I adjourn the meeting. 02:34:44