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  • 2.  REGULARAGENDAITEMS:   A. Information/Discussion regarding an update from the Tri-City Regional Sanitary District regarding the construction contracts approved for the Water Reclamation Facility site, piping, andlift station. (Mike Krebs) This item was addressed later in the Agenda.
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  • B.  Information/Discussion to present the Payson Rodeo Property proposed Master Plan for26. (Darren Coldwell)
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  • A. Information/Discussion regarding an update from the Tri-City Regional Sanitary District regarding the construction contracts approved for the Water Reclamation Facility site, piping, andlift station. (Mike Krebs)
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Event transcript
Well, welcome everyone. I'd like to call this meeting. 00:00:01
To order, it's 10:00 here. 00:00:03
And. 00:00:06
Hang on. 00:00:08
Need some spectacles? There we go. 00:00:09
Tuesday, March 24th. 00:00:11
And. 00:00:13
Let's see. Umm. 00:00:16
I'm running a little late this morning, so Matt, good morning. Would you please lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance? 00:00:18
Please stand. 00:00:23
Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:27
And. 00:00:36
One Nation. 00:00:36
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:38
Thank you. 00:00:43
I got delayed on the highway this morning, about 20 minutes, yeah. 00:00:48
I thought I was going to have to call. 00:00:53
For the meeting. 00:00:55
So anyway, we're able to make sure it happened on time. 00:00:57
They were painting the highway black so. 00:01:01
It's beautiful. 00:01:04
You're welcome. 00:01:07
And everyone once again, we do have a work session today, so. 00:01:08
This is the kind of meeting that is intended to be productive and not. 00:01:12
Decisive as far as taking actions. 00:01:16
And so we encourage everyone. 00:01:19
You know to we need to talk about it and figure out a direction that we're going and everything. 00:01:23
So this morning, our regular agenda items. 00:01:27
To a information discussion regarding an update from the Tri-City Regional Sanitary District regarding the. 00:01:32
Construction contracts approved. 00:01:38
For the water reclamation facility site piping and lifts. 00:01:39
Patient who have a. 00:01:44
Mike Krebs with us this morning. 00:01:45
Is any representative here from the sanitation? 00:01:48
No. Well, that's unfortunate. 00:01:53
We we might have to work on that. 00:01:58
Later. Let's go ahead and skip that for now. 00:02:02
And move on to item 2B your. 00:02:05
We have with us from Payson. 00:02:08
The town manager and the What's your car again, Greg? 00:02:12
Economic Development Director Greg. 00:02:17
And it's information and discussion to present. 00:02:20
The Payson Rodeo property proposed master. 00:02:23
Plan for 2026 and you have a presentation about what you guys are doing. We're so happy to have you here, Payson. 00:02:26
Uh, leadership doesn't usually come in here, and so we're really happy. 00:02:35
You have to have you with us today. 00:02:39
And thank you to James. 00:02:41
We've met with him a couple of times. You're very lucky to have a man that has that much experience and is as welcoming. 00:02:44
As he's been to. 00:02:51
Both Greg and I are newbies. 00:02:53
To your county. 00:02:55
So. 00:02:56
We we wanted to make sure that we started off. 00:02:58
On a good feet. 00:03:02
With the supervisors. 00:03:03
There's no reason. 00:03:06
That, umm. 00:03:07
A community and a county can't work. 00:03:08
Directly together. 00:03:11
I actually come from western Montana, so it's good to see all the cowboy hats. 00:03:12
We didn't get that in Page so it's nice to see those. But again, my dad would be a. 00:03:18
Very happy to see him. 00:03:22
What we're here for is a couple of different reasons, one mainly just to introduce ourselves. 00:03:25
And to see. 00:03:29
If we can't. 00:03:31
Start doing some projects together. 00:03:32
Big. Small. 00:03:35
Whatever it might be. 00:03:36
I think. 00:03:38
With my background I was. 00:03:40
A county manager. 00:03:42
As well. 00:03:43
And had great working relationships with our communities and we partnered up. 00:03:44
The towns and cities did all the work. 00:03:48
And we just got to put our name on it. So that's kind of what we're looking for you. 00:03:51
We've talked to supervisors or Christensen. 00:03:56
About the rodeo grounds. 00:04:00
And so we've. 00:04:02
We've reached out to the tribe. 00:04:04
We spoke with the rodeo committee. 00:04:06
We'd like to do some improvements there. 00:04:09
And we would. I know this is just. 00:04:11
A information gathering. 00:04:13
So we wanted to show you. 00:04:16
A few things that we've done already. 00:04:18
As far as some concepts that we're looking at. 00:04:20
And hopefully. 00:04:23
You agree with them. 00:04:25
So, uh. 00:04:27
Yo, I forgot. 00:04:29
We have Greg here too, so I'll let him. Greg Martinez, correct? Yes. And your news? Well. 00:04:31
Yes, I've been here for about 6 months with the town of Peace and. 00:04:36
I haven't had a lot of experience in Globe. 00:04:40
But I will tell you, I am just so impressed with the bones of your downtown. 00:04:43
It has got a real attractive vibe to it. It's exactly what I think. 00:04:47
The metropolitan areas like Phoenix and Tucson. 00:04:51
Are looking for they want. 00:04:54
Some historic. 00:04:56
Sorry for a Gen. Z word but vibes. 00:04:59
He wants some historic vibes and that's exactly what your downtown has and so. 00:05:02
Anything we do. 00:05:06
Together. 00:05:07
Globe is always in our mind as well. How can we both support each other when it comes to. 00:05:08
Something like. 00:05:14
Visitation and tourism. 00:05:15
Because those are very low hanging fruit when it comes to our. 00:05:17
Arizona Economy. 00:05:20
OK. Thank you. 00:05:22
So I guess. 00:05:25
You see this? I'm just going to skip through some of this. I know you're busy. 00:05:26
So, uh. 00:05:30
This this shows you. 00:05:30
Your current. 00:05:32
Site plan. 00:05:35
For the rodeo grounds. 00:05:36
The left you can see is basically the true rodeo grounds, the number 2. 00:05:39
Is the. 00:05:44
Where the current fair building goes. 00:05:45
When it's rare time. 00:05:47
What we would like to do here, you can see there's a huge drainage that comes through there. 00:05:51
So it's luckily we don't have a. 00:05:56
Ton of events right now because that drainage is a problem. 00:05:58
What we would like to do? 00:06:01
This is just showing you that big drainage that comes down all the way to the road. 00:06:04
We would like. 00:06:09
To do something like this, except #1 being the rodeo grounds, which is now covered. 00:06:10
But it's open. 00:06:17
On the sides. 00:06:18
This is a steel girder building. We're going to go out for an RFP within the next couple weeks. 00:06:19
So it's a pre engineered building. Estimated costs about 8. 00:06:25
The number 2 again. 00:06:31
Will be. 00:06:33
The actual fairgrounds. 00:06:34
But what we would like to do, and I'm not sure how these slides go, is we would like to move. 00:06:36
Number one down to where #6 is. 00:06:41
And get away from. 00:06:44
That drainage? 00:06:46
And make that the parking. 00:06:47
The number six on this is the parking is the parking lot right now. 00:06:51
Yep. So we'll just move everything down. 00:06:56
Fours is basically. 00:07:01
Arena area, stalls for the rodeos, that kind of thing. And then. 00:07:04
That number 3 is housing. 00:07:08
For a long. 00:07:10
This is a potential if we add. 00:07:15
3rd building. 00:07:17
The second building, which would be the fair building, is actually one of the most expensive. 00:07:19
It's big enough. 00:07:24
Capacity for 5000 people. 00:07:26
Estimate of just the facility, not including. 00:07:29
Plumbing. Umm. 00:07:33
Lights, windows, doors, everything that comes along with it was about 1. 00:07:35
8 million. 00:07:39
So what we're picturing? 00:07:41
Is a staggered. 00:07:43
The town would have to do it in. 00:07:46
You know, over over a. 00:07:48
Amount of time we could. 00:07:49
Maybe do the rodeo ground? 00:07:52
Next year's budget. 00:07:54
Get that paid for. 00:07:56
Then move to the fairgrounds. That'll probably take a couple years for us to set money aside in order for us to be able to start 00:07:58
that. 00:08:01
So we don't want to go into debt for this. 00:08:05
We want to pay cash. 00:08:09
Payson has. 00:08:12
Enough depth. 00:08:14
Problems that you know, if we can't buy it, we won't have it. 00:08:15
Then basically these just go through different. 00:08:24
We can spend as much money as we want. 00:08:26
Kind of thing. 00:08:29
Today, though, we just wanted you. This is. 00:08:33
This will show you the. 00:08:36
So this will be. 00:08:38
Seats about 5000 people as well. 00:08:39
In it's a covered deck. 00:08:42
I didn't know a whole lot. 00:08:46
About rodeo arenas. 00:08:47
But I'm getting to know quite a bit now. So the standard size is 270 by 140. 00:08:49
So that actually would be enough. 00:08:56
To have a concert in. 00:08:58
To have. 00:09:01
Other things besides just. 00:09:03
A rodeo. 00:09:06
There it is showing the covering. 00:09:08
We had an event. 00:09:13
This weekend. 00:09:15
We had a barrel racing. 00:09:18
And a pole racing. 00:09:20
Which is for cutting horses. 00:09:22
We had over 200. 00:09:25
Participants. 00:09:27
So you literally we had we tried to recruit a gentleman into IT this weekend. 00:09:28
You literally could not find a hotel room. 00:09:35
We got him. 00:09:37
The last hotel room in Motel 6. 00:09:38
Everything else was completely booked. 00:09:40
So it's amazing how. 00:09:42
These kind of events. 00:09:44
In southern Arizona. 00:09:47
Is really. 00:09:49
Followed. I mean, there's, there's one of our councilmen. 00:09:50
Brett is quite a Roper. 00:09:53
Plus, tourism is shifting. 00:09:55
A lot of times. 00:09:58
Growing up in the 90s, tourism was about spending going to Disneyland, going to Magic Mountain, going to SeaWorld. 00:09:59
Now it's about experiences that are outside your day-to-day noise. 00:10:06
Right. So it's about. 00:10:09
You think about the urban landscape of the metropolitan area of Phoenix. 00:10:11
Who do they not have? They don't have rodeos for the most part, they're not having. 00:10:14
An experience of. 00:10:18
Cowboys and I have an experience of roping. 00:10:20
And so a lot of parents who are millennials. 00:10:23
Who have kids that are Gen. Z, Gen. Alpha are looking to get their kids. 00:10:26
Experience because they're so digital. 00:10:31
And so this is. 00:10:33
You're going to see more of these rural communities like us. 00:10:35
That are going to invest in these projects. 00:10:38
Because it will be an economic boom. 00:10:41
This next slide now. 00:10:45
Is showing you. 00:10:47
The facility for the parent facility or. 00:10:48
You know, concerts, wedding. It's 25,000 square feet. 00:10:52
Not including the catering kitchen, the restrooms. 00:10:57
That was the one point. 00:11:02
$1,000,000. 00:11:04
We wanted to create it big enough. 00:11:05
So it could be multi-purpose. 00:11:07
So it's big enough literally to put. 00:11:10
2 basketball floors on. 00:11:13
Or two volleyball floors. 00:11:15
Or, uh. 00:11:17
4 You know, if we had a tournament. 00:11:19
We could. 00:11:21
But four games going on at the same time. 00:11:22
With four different baskets. 00:11:26
It's big enough for three. 00:11:28
Volleyball courts. 00:11:30
And then it's. 00:11:32
Big enough for Excuse me 6. 00:11:35
Smaller ports. 00:11:38
So it creates a year round facility, not just. 00:11:40
A facility that's going to be used one weekend out of the year. 00:11:44
We can even you know. 00:11:49
I don't. I don't like you because. 00:11:50
My idea. 00:11:52
Of government is not. 00:11:53
Compete against industry. 00:11:54
But it could be big enough for a rental facility for a wedding. 00:11:57
Or something like that. 00:12:00
But I don't think that's our job to create a facility so others can. 00:12:02
Can come and have their wedding. It should be for a multi use that the taxpayers get to use. 00:12:06
And then this just goes through different. 00:12:13
Ways that you could set up. 00:12:18
This is the last one how you can set up the fare. 00:12:19
With 200 different stalls or 100 different stalls. 00:12:22
That kind of thing. 00:12:26
So. 00:12:28
You guys have this digitally? 00:12:30
That we sent. 00:12:33
Was it? 00:12:36
I did. I'm not sure who we sent it to. It was James. 00:12:37
You know the Galveston has all the work for him. 00:12:42
We've got it in our cloud somewhere. There you go. 00:12:46
Somewhere. 00:12:49
So. 00:12:50
We basically came here to extend our hand. 00:12:51
And to let you know some of the things that. 00:12:54
That patient's working on and this is the one of the ones that we felt. 00:12:58
That the county may be interested. 00:13:02
And pairing up with. 00:13:05
We, like I said, we. 00:13:09
We're going out for RFP. 00:13:12
So we'll get some prices. 00:13:14
I hope that. 00:13:15
Once we have some. 00:13:17
Some final prices and some final outlay. 00:13:18
That we can come again. 00:13:21
And maybe beyond your agenda. 00:13:23
To discuss. 00:13:25
Potential planning. 00:13:27
Of of you know. 00:13:29
Finances, let's say. 00:13:31
And and then. 00:13:32
Just real quick. 00:13:35
You guys have some? 00:13:37
Acreage inpatient as well. 00:13:38
We just want to. 00:13:41
Kind of get a head nod that. 00:13:43
If we find. 00:13:45
A company or a young entrepreneur? 00:13:48
That might be interested. 00:13:52
In that property. 00:13:54
That it would be OK for us. 00:13:55
To show it. 00:13:58
We're not sure what your plans are. 00:14:00
Forth. And we're not asking for you to give it to us at all. 00:14:02
We're asking for. 00:14:05
Greg is recruiting. 00:14:08
Really, really hard. Some timber industry. 00:14:10
People that. 00:14:12
That are coming down actually. 00:14:13
Peason is a. 00:14:16
Nicely located. 00:14:18
On 87. 00:14:20
Gateway to Phoenix. 00:14:22
What we're noticing is that there are a lot of people who are either going to work remotely or. 00:14:23
They're going to commute from pacing to the valley. 00:14:28
And so that 20 acres on 260 or more. 00:14:31
Probably shortchanging it or over changing it. 00:14:34
Whatever council priorities line up, whatever priorities line up with you. 00:14:38
I'm always with either the Arizona Commerce Authority or the Arizona Lodging and Tourism Association, but there are people who are 00:14:42
very interested in coming into pacing to start. 00:14:46
Some development and. 00:14:51
I think what we're both saying is. 00:14:53
We're land poor, yeah. 00:14:54
And if. 00:14:57
It's your land. 00:14:58
If you would like us to refer to Mr. Menloff. 00:15:01
We can do that. 00:15:04
But. 00:15:05
Prime piece of real estate. 00:15:06
And it just. 00:15:08
Interested in your thoughts about. 00:15:09
How that? 00:15:11
Property how you see it developing? 00:15:12
If it's OK. 00:15:15
Thanks for all the comments. 00:15:17
Open it up for discussion. 00:15:20
Sure. 00:15:21
So anybody have anything you like to say about it? 00:15:22
OK, I I get the CAN alarm first. 00:15:26
Oh sure, we don't know anything about can of worms anyway, yeah. 00:15:29
Going going forward, you know on your layout. 00:15:34
You know, volleyball, basketball. 00:15:37
I think that's great, but the pickleball is one of the fastest growing sports. 00:15:39
In the country right now. 00:15:43
It's amazing and it's from youth all the way through. 00:15:46
Yep, and so it's one of the fastest growing sports of. 00:15:49
You know that might be. 00:15:52
Be aware of as you're going forward. 00:15:53
Especially if it's indoors, it would be amazing. It'd be a year round sport and that's just a matter of. 00:15:56
Put the stakes in the floor where you can put the. 00:16:01
The Nets, yeah. 00:16:05
And you know, my my two cents about the patient property is I've been a supervisor for nine years. 00:16:06
That property has been before us a ton of times, OK? 00:16:12
And it just seems to fall. 00:16:16
Show discussion. 00:16:18
In the future I would like to. 00:16:20
Have very much. 00:16:22
Because like I say, it and other properties have been before the board several times. 00:16:23
But they fall in a crack. 00:16:29
Right. And so? 00:16:30
And bringing that up, I would like to have. 00:16:32
More conversation on that. 00:16:35
Sure. 00:16:37
Great. 00:16:37
And like I say, we don't have anybody right now. 00:16:38
But my shoe fell off. 00:16:42
We just wanted to make sure we weren't stepping on your toes. 00:16:45
Right if. 00:16:48
We mentioned that the county has. 00:16:49
20 acres on 260 if you'd like to look at and we. 00:16:51
If you if it gets serious, we'll pay for an appraisal. 00:16:54
You know, we'll pay for a survey. We'll do all that we don't expect. 00:16:57
Any of that from you? 00:17:01
We just like to be a partner. 00:17:03
And going forward? 00:17:05
If by chance? 00:17:06
You know there's a resort to our hotel. 00:17:08
That that we could come to you and say, hey, here's our plan for this. What do you think? 00:17:12
I think a work session on it would be a good thing if someone. 00:17:17
Interested to. 00:17:21
Great. Ask for a work session so. 00:17:22
That way, staff can be part of the conversation, the board can be part of the. 00:17:24
The conversation. Yeah, yeah. 00:17:27
OK, what? Do you got something, don't you? 00:17:29
Always thank you for coming down. 00:17:32
You bet. Thank you. Nice to meet you both. 00:17:35
And and I, I applaud you for wanting to come down. 00:17:38
Meet us and be a part of this and. 00:17:42
So your rodeo grounds to start with, you know. 00:17:44
Arena and there. 00:17:46
It is actually vital to patient. 00:17:48
I mean, there's a lot more that could be done with that arena if it was covered. 00:17:50
Yep, you know you have a lot of good plans up there. 00:17:55
And and expansions and all that. 00:17:59
What's what's going to happen with your maintenance and operation though? As you expand all that, your cost of maintaining and 00:18:01
operating is going to go up as well. 00:18:05
It definitely will now we have set aside. 00:18:08
Which they're not actually used much. 00:18:12
That comes out of our hotel. Motel tax. 00:18:14
There's three people that. 00:18:17
The town of Patient pays for it. 00:18:19
Specifically. 00:18:21
For the the events facility. 00:18:22
And they are underutilized. We actually steal them quite a bit for. 00:18:26
Doing other things in town. 00:18:31
So Payson did do a little planning. 00:18:33
That doesn't have to be spent. 00:18:37
On personnel. 00:18:39
But it does have to be spent. 00:18:41
At the Event Center and that's about 250,000 a year. 00:18:42
So and as it grows. 00:18:47
The amount that. 00:18:50
Can be earmarked. 00:18:51
Towards this Event Center kid. 00:18:52
Be comparable. 00:18:54
Right, because there'll be a lot of work in in there. 00:18:55
You get that off the ground and going so. 00:18:58
And we hope. 00:19:00
You know. 00:19:01
I was. I own my own business for 25 years. I was in retail. 00:19:02
You know, we hope after a few years we. 00:19:06
We get enough punches in the eye. We. 00:19:09
We figure out. 00:19:11
How you can at least come into the black? 00:19:12
Governments not. 00:19:15
Created to to make money. 00:19:17
But we're also not. 00:19:19
Created to spend the tax dollars. 00:19:20
Poorly either. 00:19:23
So. 00:19:25
Exactly. 00:19:26
On the part of the property. 00:19:29
I'm not any different than Supervisor Humphrey, basically. 00:19:31
That property is set there vacant. 00:19:35
Nothing done with it for a long time. 00:19:38
We've had discussions, me and Mr. James have had discussions and. 00:19:40
We've talked about it in. 00:19:43
Front of this board. 00:19:45
The only thing I'll tell you is from my standpoint is the county needs to make money off that property. 00:19:47
You know we have no reason to have it. 00:19:53
In my opinion. 00:19:55
It's my opinion only. 00:19:57
But we definitely need to make some money off of. 00:19:59
We've looked at it. We've actually kind of. 00:20:03
Maybe not formally headed appraised, but kind of. 00:20:07
You know, so we. 00:20:09
We kind of know where that went. And so it is prime property. It's right there on 260. It's like in front of college. 00:20:11
The Homeland Yards. 00:20:17
You guys are landlords. 00:20:19
Yeah, you know. 00:20:20
Big time, no doubt. 00:20:21
You you, you need the room I. 00:20:23
I get it so. 00:20:25
Coming up, I agree with Mr. Humphrey that. 00:20:27
You know work session is would be the best way. 00:20:30
That. 00:20:32
Put it in so we could. 00:20:33
Talk about it. 00:20:34
Absolutely. From there. 00:20:35
Yeah, and you know, just like, you know, their piece of government property. 00:20:36
It's gotta be sold out. 00:20:41
Appraised value. 00:20:43
It can't be. You can't go. 00:20:44
Under what the appraiser says. 00:20:47
So. 00:20:49
We we most certainly when we show the property. 00:20:51
Will be showing them as if it's. 00:20:54
For sale and continuous revenue. 00:20:56
So anything that does go on top of that property should be making money every single year, either through property or sales tax. 00:20:59
Well, I'm sure there would be some options for it to be. 00:21:06
Interesting to hear. 00:21:08
Yeah, and discuss so. 00:21:10
Thank you both for being here today though. 00:21:12
You bet. Thank you. Great drive. Never seen Roosevelt. 00:21:14
So Greg, just let you know, I live in Payson, so that's where I'm from and. 00:21:17
The rodeo grounds have moved several times over the. 00:21:23
Yeah, it was at Rumsfeld Park at one point. 00:21:27
It was at Rumsey Park, which is a very nice venue, but it was sort of in the middle of town. 00:21:29
He was decided by the. 00:21:34
Council at that point to move it where it is. 00:21:36
And it's been there for 30 years or. 00:21:39
20 something. 00:21:42
Without cover. 00:21:43
And that's been the main complaint that it got halfway done. 00:21:44
And not really completely done, it needs to be. 00:21:48
The we have a very large and good. 00:21:51
Fairgrounds here in the Globe area. 00:21:56
200 and some acres. 00:21:58
And we're. 00:22:00
Improving it. 00:22:01
We're revitalizing it. We're bringing it. 00:22:02
Back from sort of a bit of a blight situation. Used to be a racehorse venue. 00:22:05
And so we're trying to create more venues and things like that and. 00:22:10
And it's coming along. 00:22:14
Good, is it? 00:22:15
Is it county property? 00:22:16
It's county property. It's. 00:22:17
Been part of the county for a very long time. 00:22:19
Now that the north has grown significantly and we do have a northern Gila County Fair. 00:22:21
That so we have two areas that we have a fair. 00:22:28
The county doesn't own any fair property there, so it becomes a. 00:22:31
A cooperative. 00:22:37
Situation. 00:22:38
With the. 00:22:39
Town of Payson. 00:22:41
And that's all good. 00:22:42
I think what you're planning is all good. 00:22:45
ETC. And I. 00:22:48
And I think we all three agree. 00:22:49
At that 20 acres approximately is something that we would like to move on. 00:22:51
And make money on. 00:22:55
Yeah, OK. 00:22:57
So the difficulty of moving. 00:22:58
County property, though, it runs through the legal complications of. 00:23:01
How that happens? 00:23:06
And. 00:23:07
Whether it goes to auctions or bidding, I don't know. They know, so they protect us from doing the wrong thing. 00:23:08
I think it's easier to move property from 1 government to another. 00:23:15
We don't have to go through some of those prophets. 00:23:19
Right things, but you you probably. 00:23:21
Know that already if. 00:23:23
And then you guys? 00:23:25
Of Payson, I should say. 00:23:26
Owns about one acre in the center of it. 00:23:28
For a very odd situation. 00:23:30
But you own one acre in the very center of it. 00:23:32
And I'm not sure what the purpose of that was. 00:23:37
But you know, that's all history now. 00:23:40
I would like to see the county have more of a. 00:23:45
Footprint in the fairgrounds. 00:23:48
What that looks like, I don't know. 00:23:51
Right. I don't know. We are facing some financial challenges right now, yeah. 00:23:52
With the floods and borrowing money to help with all of that and so. 00:23:57
I wish I could say we have a bunch of money in this bucket over here that. 00:24:03
Commit to it. 00:24:06
So those are all challenges, but I think. 00:24:08
You're getting the idea that we're all interested in the success of it all because it brings economy. 00:24:10
To Hila County. 00:24:16
Southern Gila County and northern. 00:24:19
Gila County need to. 00:24:21
Thrive economically, Yeah. 00:24:23
And so we can see both areas growing and. 00:24:25
There are different entities of their own. 00:24:29
There's people that come to southern Hill County for a different reason than northern. 00:24:32
Right. Sure. 00:24:36
But the more opportunities. 00:24:37
Available and. 00:24:40
The website that we have. 00:24:43
That we support, I should say website the. 00:24:45
Really, it's the marketing. 00:24:49
Company Discovery Gila Bend the I'm sorry Discover discover Hila discover Hila County. 00:24:51
It has been marvelous for. 00:24:56
In the millions of dollars in visitors. 00:24:59
Coming to Hula County, it's amazing, isn't it? 00:25:02
It's it's only going to grow. 00:25:04
I see that it's. We're on the edge of. 00:25:07
Actual growth, actually. 00:25:10
So this is, you know, this is. 00:25:12
Part of Gila County and patients history. 00:25:14
You know, the rodeo is something that Hastings very, very. 00:25:17
Proud of yes. 00:25:21
So, uh. 00:25:23
You know why not? 00:25:24
We got to capitalize on that. 00:25:27
It's it's, it's a no brainer. 00:25:28
It's into your credit. 00:25:30
A lot of it is how you package the experience. Again, when we're talking about tourists, they want the experience. Where's all 00:25:33
that money going to come from? The great state of Maricopa? 00:25:37
Right. So they're going to come on up into. 00:25:41
Which is. 00:25:43
In I want to say uncertain times, but. 00:25:44
Maybe times that are a little bit more turbulent than in past. 00:25:49
A lot of people don't want to go too far from their home and we're a perfect location and destination for the valley to come visit 00:25:53
us. 00:25:56
Spend their money and then. 00:25:59
Head back home. 00:26:00
And that's both. Both. 00:26:01
Globe that's. 00:26:03
Payson. That's strawberry. That's Pine. Star Valley. 00:26:05
There's just a lot of opportunity and especially like I said, I haven't been to your downtown. 00:26:09
And when I drove through there, Darren and I were both just like. 00:26:13
Blown away. 00:26:16
This is a place people will want to go. 00:26:17
It's just how do you package it? How do you show it, How do you showcase it? What kind of events are happening in the downtown? 00:26:20
It's very attractive. 00:26:26
And this is coming from a place that. 00:26:28
You know from the city of Page where we had five and a half million. 00:26:30
6,000,000 International Visitation. 00:26:33
When Glen Canyon National Recreation Area beat the Grand Canyon. 00:26:35
In total, visitation in 23. 00:26:39
So, you know, Diane and I both, I think, have an eye for these kinds of places and. 00:26:41
And Globe has the bones to be. 00:26:47
A tourist destination. 00:26:50
Yeah, they're building 2 motels right now in Payson. 00:26:52
Yeah, yeah. And then the Whitings are building. 00:26:55
Yeah. 00:26:59
Yeah, they got the dirt moving. 00:27:00
And I just saw this paper. 00:27:03
A4 story. 00:27:06
Yeah. Are those that's housing over at the Blockbuster property? Yep. 00:27:07
Yeah, yeah. So patient is growing. 00:27:13
Yeah, and there's a development behind. 00:27:16
Walmart development behind Walmart Discount Tire. 00:27:19
Yeah, just kind of tires going to be building. 00:27:24
A new. 00:27:26
Where's that that's going to be going into Walmart? 00:27:29
That piece around on your right? 00:27:31
Oh, the mountain. 00:27:33
Yeah, that's going to be an expensive big right there. That's going to be an expensive dig, but there. 00:27:34
Not we're way off topic here on your agenda, but there is growing, growing. 00:27:39
And so that's kind of what. 00:27:45
I was. So we just want to thank you. 00:27:46
We appreciate it. 00:27:49
We just wanted to reach our hand out and say, hey, we're here. 00:27:50
And faces to the name. 00:27:53
Right and. 00:27:54
Will be working with your. 00:27:56
Let's keep the conversation going. 00:27:59
I don't just thank you very much and thank you for. 00:28:02
Thinking of Gila County and how we can better it. 00:28:05
You know I mean. 00:28:08
It used to be a pass through and we've made it a destination and so. 00:28:09
We need to keep that going. Thank you very much for. 00:28:13
We're having that in mind. 00:28:17
Of the future. 00:28:19
And I'm not sure if you saw any of our pace and commercials on the Olympics. 00:28:20
But they were pretty well received. 00:28:24
Yeah, so. 00:28:27
We're trying to drive some visitation to our county. 00:28:28
Yeah, I think that's why we came up with Discovery looking. Yeah. 00:28:31
Yeah, it helps a bunch. 00:28:34
And the only thing I would say is sometime soon, Darren, I need to make an appointment with you and come visit you too. 00:28:37
Yeah, absolutely. 00:28:45
You're just above us. We were. 00:28:47
Come up and visit you. But we haven't. 00:28:48
Made the time yet? 00:28:51
The penny still is pretty shiny. 00:28:52
You know, we're all new yet, so that hasn't rubbed off. So everybody in the world wants to see us. 00:28:54
James, you have something. 00:29:00
Yeah, Mr. Chairman. 00:29:01
Couple of questions on your. 00:29:02
What you're build out and things are going. 00:29:04
I wasn't quite sure the. 00:29:07
The courts and the different things like that, they were in a separate building, they were not. 00:29:09
Part of the arena. 00:29:13
They're not part of the arena. It's a separate building that we. 00:29:14
I'm calling it like the Event Center or fair. 00:29:17
Grounds. It's just a big wide open building. 00:29:21
Currently they put up a temporary building. 00:29:26
In in patient for the fair. 00:29:29
It's one of those big plastic. 00:29:31
So we've talked with them and they're. 00:29:34
They're all in. 00:29:36
On it, of course. 00:29:38
So, Mr. Humphrey, Supervisor Humphrey might. 00:29:40
Want to share a little bit more, but we just recently had a. 00:29:43
High school rodeo event. 00:29:46
Here in Globe. 00:29:49
And part of that was? 00:29:50
That they needed to have two separate arenas. Oh, for the women and the. 00:29:53
Not necessarily. One's a rough, rough stock. 00:29:57
Event in the rodeo arena. Another is talk. 00:30:00
Propane and those and barrel racing the things that you. 00:30:04
Depicted on your. 00:30:07
Things. But have you considered that that? 00:30:08
So you might have to. 00:30:11
Have a second arena? 00:30:15
To be able to. 00:30:16
To do some of the. 00:30:17
There's a lot of roping events and they want to have two arenas because they have. 00:30:19
You go into this arena and you do. 00:30:23
You have two separate roping and so you go to this. Read it. 00:30:25
Then you go to the other region. 00:30:28
We have not. 00:30:31
Thought about that. 00:30:32
Well, yeah, then we could compete on how the high school rodeo is going, right? 00:30:33
You know that works on the South. 00:30:37
Well, this wasn't just high school. This was a. 00:30:41
This was like a. 00:30:45
The championship event. 00:30:46
They have about. 00:30:49
10 a year and then they have the. 00:30:51
High school rodeo final. 00:30:52
OK, well, this was just a high school rodeo. 00:30:54
But we had people from all over the country. 00:30:57
Yeah, it's, it's, I came from Montana. It's big. 00:30:59
High school rodeo is just like. 00:31:02
A basketball team. 00:31:03
And then? 00:31:04
Both universities have. 00:31:05
College. 00:31:08
Rodeo teams. 00:31:09
But it's so big for the layperson, the non rodeo person if you take a look what people are streaming and watching. 00:31:10
They're watching Yellowstone, they're watching spin offs of Yellowstone. They, they're just infatuated with this type of lifestyle 00:31:16
and why not capture it now? 00:31:19
Right. Yeah. 00:31:23
So what James said about Second Marina? He's right. 00:31:25
Yeah, that's. 00:31:28
Most places now, that's what it. 00:31:30
What they need to be there because they're running the thousand plus teams sometimes. 00:31:32
So we could be so lucky. 00:31:37
If you had two runners, you would be. 00:31:39
Yeah, I suppose we could. 00:31:41
You know, I have a larger arena in a. 00:31:44
A smaller uncovered arena, which would be. 00:31:46
A lot less expensive still with seating, but. 00:31:48
Similar to what we have now. 00:31:50
We've got plenty of room down there. 00:31:53
I do want to mention that. 00:31:55
Payson Rodeo Committee. 00:31:57
Is perhaps the most. 00:31:59
Powerful force that has kept the rodeo. 00:32:01
Active in our Lives is over 100 members volunteers. 00:32:03
And we have the oldest continuous rodeo It's. 00:32:07
Thing and they're going to see to it that it keeps going. 00:32:12
They are the power behind that. 00:32:16
And how can we support them? Is this will this will just you know. 00:32:17
Make that much better. 00:32:21
All right, we thank you so much for coming, Mr. Chairman Worker. 00:32:23
Yes, Sir. 00:32:27
I from what the Board of Supervisors and the message they've given me is that. 00:32:28
It would be good to use the property that we own. 00:32:33
On 260. 00:32:37
Have some sort of use. 00:32:38
Find the best use for that is what has eluded us and why. 00:32:40
As Supervisor Humphrey said, we've had. 00:32:44
A whole lot of discussions about it. 00:32:46
But have not really gone anywhere because finding that. 00:32:48
Best use and purpose. 00:32:51
As what has not been determined. 00:32:54
And I believe that the Board of Supervisors is just looking for what is best for the residents of Gila County. 00:32:57
And always, yeah, that they, that's why they have indicated that they are open and willing to have that discussion. 00:33:03
But what is the best for residents of Northern County? 00:33:09
Eggs are pretty good salesman. 00:33:13
Next time we come back, we'll. 00:33:16
You know, we'll have some ideas about what that could be. 00:33:17
So we can discuss it. 00:33:20
Appreciate it. Thanks for all your help, energy coming today and everything. Good to meet you guys. Thank you. We'll see you. See 00:33:21
you later, James. Thank you. Thank you. 00:33:25
Our future. 00:33:30
Presenters have the option of sitting at a table or doing the stand, but looks like Cassandra is going to take care of that. 00:33:32
Yeah, yeah. So. 00:33:39
OK. Thank you very much. 00:33:41
We're going to revert back right now to item 2A. Way I understand. 00:33:43
Mr. Krebs is here, is that? 00:33:47
Correct. Yes, Sir. 00:33:49
OK. All right. 00:33:50
Thank you for coming. 00:33:51
Item two way is information discussion regarding an update from the Tri-City Regional Sanitary District. 00:33:52
Regarding the construction contracts approved for water reclamation facility site, I think? 00:33:58
And lift station. 00:34:03
Thank you for coming, Mr. Krebs. Thank you and thank you for having me. 00:34:05
I just, uh. 00:34:10
We've had a tremendous. 00:34:11
Past four to six months with. 00:34:13
Progress. Uh. 00:34:15
And I just thought it would be appropriate to. 00:34:16
Let you guys know what's going on. We have been. 00:34:20
Very grateful for. 00:34:24
The county's help. 00:34:26
And getting where we are. 00:34:27
And I don't think without your support that it. 00:34:29
We could. We could be where we are today. 00:34:32
So on behalf of Tri-City, I just want to say thank you for that. 00:34:34
And and so. 00:34:38
Just a little bit of update. 00:34:41
We are. You have a few. 00:34:44
Slides I think in your packets and one is the overall district. 00:34:46
And I don't know that I really need to go into that. I think you all. 00:34:50
Understand the. 00:34:54
District. 00:34:55
As well as anyone. 00:34:56
What we have done in the in. 00:34:59
Gotten accomplished is. 00:35:01
We went out to bed and we. 00:35:04
Went out initially, forbid for two. 00:35:06
Two parts 1 is the part that you see there, which is the main sewer line, the treatment plant site. 00:35:09
Preparation. 00:35:15
And then the other part was basically Claypool. 00:35:16
And the numbers that we received on the. 00:35:20
This area seemed. 00:35:23
OK, the numbers we got from Claypool seemed. 00:35:25
Ridiculous. 00:35:30
Extremely high. 00:35:32
And So what we ended up doing after we talked with a number of contractors, we ended up. 00:35:35
Breaking it up into basins. 00:35:39
And that whole area is about 9 different drainage basins. 00:35:41
And so we put that. 00:35:46
Out to bid and those different parts and the. 00:35:48
The difference in the numbers were 20 to 25,000,000. 00:35:52
Lower, so it was really a good. 00:35:55
You know, a good process for us to go through that we had much more activity. 00:35:58
We only received one bid on the. 00:36:03
One play. 00:36:05
Pull the big one and we received 4 on each of the other packages. 00:36:06
3:00 to 4:00. 00:36:10
So it was very good. 00:36:11
So. 00:36:13
This contract here has been awarded. 00:36:14
KE&G is. 00:36:17
Awarded Contractor. 00:36:19
And we are working with them to get through some metals and get them started on the site. 00:36:21
Site work as well as getting the main sewer line in. 00:36:28
They're going to be boring under 18US60A directional bore and two boars. 00:36:32
On 188. 00:36:37
For the pipelines to run. 00:36:40
We're working with ADOT on that as well. 00:36:42
And, umm. 00:36:45
The. 00:36:46
We'll get started as well. Probably that work will start. 00:36:48
In about a month. 00:36:52
So I think they're going to start mobilization in April and the work will start. 00:36:53
In mid to late. 00:36:59
April. 00:37:00
And so the other part of that is, is that the treatment plant itself will be delivered in June. 00:37:01
So the idea is that that site will be ready to accept. 00:37:07
That facility and set in place. 00:37:10
And we'll get all hooked up and. 00:37:13
And ready to go. 00:37:15
And so then the line also has to be. 00:37:17
Has to be put in there. 00:37:20
So. 00:37:21
Trying to think of what else on this. 00:37:23
On this part. 00:37:25
I don't know if there's any questions. 00:37:26
On this one and then I'll jump to. 00:37:29
Play pool area. 00:37:30
Yeah, just Also you broke down the project, but you also broke down scopes of work as well. 00:37:33
Yeah, one contractor wasn't looking at the whole project correct. 00:37:39
To have a lot of subcontracts under him. 00:37:42
Correct. So you broke it down. 00:37:44
So you so they were looking like the main plumbing. 00:37:46
And then the plumbing from there to the home through the home, you broke the scope. So yes, down as well, yes, which helped. 00:37:49
Organizing. 00:37:56
And. 00:37:58
More people. 00:37:59
To bid because they're. 00:38:00
Weren't big enough for the. 00:38:01
Project correct and then that way they could subcontract with more local contractors and yes, things of that nature yeah, yes in 00:38:02
enough conversations which is. 00:38:07
A good deal so. 00:38:11
Yes, yes. 00:38:12
So that's a. 00:38:14
A good segue into. 00:38:15
The Claypool area so you can see the nine different. 00:38:17
Drainage basins. 00:38:20
And we broke that down into three different bids. 00:38:21
Patients 1-2 and nine. 00:38:25
Basins 3-4 and five. 00:38:28
And Basin 6-7 and eight, those were the three different. 00:38:31
Bids for the collection system. 00:38:34
Then we also. 00:38:37
Really worked with a couple of local. 00:38:39
As many local plumbers that we could get interested in. 00:38:42
Making the house connections. 00:38:45
And so we reached. 00:38:47
We received a couple of bids from them as well and we will actually have to. 00:38:49
We'll go out to rebid for those. 00:38:53
Very soon here, but. 00:38:56
In this package here, a company out of Utah actually was low. 00:38:58
By kind of significant numbers on most of these. 00:39:04
What you see here 1/2 and 934567 and 8. 00:39:09
And what we awarded. 00:39:13
And again, the funding, the main funding is coming from USDA Rd. 00:39:16
United States Department of Agricultural Rural Development. 00:39:21
And we were able to award. 00:39:25
Basins 1-2 and nine, and three, four and five. 00:39:28
And I'll show you the funding. I think you have that. 00:39:31
Information in your package. 00:39:34
So they are going to get started on this. Basin 1 is really all the railroad. 00:39:37
There's a lot of work in Arizona Eastern. 00:39:42
We've been working closely with them. We've. 00:39:45
Working closely with all the utilities, the water company that. 00:39:47
The gas company. 00:39:51
So everybody you know. 00:39:53
I'd like to say it takes it's going to take a village to get this. 00:39:56
Project done. And so we're we've we've been working with. 00:39:59
All of those different entities. 00:40:03
Based on 6-7 and nine has yet to be funded. 00:40:05
And just to. 00:40:08
To show you the. 00:40:10
If you open up that. 00:40:14
Last one. 00:40:16
Yes. 00:40:20
Yes, yes. 00:40:22
So what you see there in front of you now is really kind of a breakdown of the numbers. 00:40:23
And what you see in red are the two basins that have not been awarded. 00:40:29
And they were not. 00:40:33
Awarded because the funding as we're working. 00:40:35
With USDA, there were some. 00:40:38
Parameters that they needed to work around and. 00:40:40
They're like, we need to wait to award these two packages which. 00:40:44
Is about 9 million. 00:40:48
Without contingencies and anything like that, so. 00:40:50
And then? 00:40:55
Other area, Phase One North. 00:40:56
Is is the part basically. 00:41:00
Along 188. That's South of. 00:41:03
Where where we cross the. 00:41:06
188 and go north. 00:41:09
And Mineral Lane. 00:41:11
Up in that residential area and. 00:41:12
All those connections. 00:41:15
So it's from mineral Lane basically down to electric Drive? 00:41:16
And then it also includes a Phase 2 lift station. 00:41:20
Which will help us get phase two kind of jump started. 00:41:24
And so the funding that we had. 00:41:28
Or have. 00:41:31
Is about 60 million. 00:41:32
So that allows us to award. 00:41:34
A lot of the house connections, everything but. 00:41:37
That basin, 6-7 and eight. 00:41:39
And the collections, that's the collection system and the residential connections. 00:41:41
So the residential connections as a reminder. 00:41:47
Is part of the scope of this work. 00:41:50
To be completed. 00:41:52
And since the project is in a Colonia area. 00:41:54
That is all paid. 00:41:57
By grant funding. 00:41:59
Colonial Fund. 00:42:00
So. 00:42:02
And not charged to the project for the people to have to. 00:42:03
They're correct. Repay the correct, yeah. 00:42:07
Big misunderstanding that he was gonna. 00:42:10
Charge people millions of dollars. Duck up to the house. 00:42:13
No, it has nothing to do, nothing to do with that. Correct. 00:42:15
Correct SO. 00:42:19
And since we put all this together, we have if you look. 00:42:21
Could you scroll up a little bit more to show the funding so. 00:42:25
That you can see the other way. 00:42:27
Scroll down. Sorry. 00:42:30
So here's the summary of all of our funding. 00:42:31
And we have. 00:42:34
The original package was 28 million. From USDA, we obtained another. 00:42:37
9 million from USDA. 00:42:42
And then with us been great. 00:42:45
Working with them the. 00:42:47
EPA 1 and 2. 00:42:49
The emerging contaminants. 00:42:52
We were able to obtain those. 00:42:54
As well as water conservation grant funding of 3 million. 00:42:57
EDA, We've worked with EDA, which is us. 00:43:02
Government. Uh. 00:43:06
Economic development administration. 00:43:08
There was a CDs. 00:43:12
Or yes, congressional discretionary spending. We didn't show it in there because we didn't have it at the time. 00:43:13
And so the total amount that's for the 60 million comes from a funding to do the work. 00:43:20
And with that, there's a two and a half million dollar contingency fee. 00:43:26
So since then we have received 2.8. 00:43:30
5 million. 00:43:34
With our congressional. 00:43:35
Discretionary. 00:43:38
Spending. 00:43:40
That's not on here. That's not on the list. 00:43:41
That's correct. 00:43:43
And we've submitted for some others and. 00:43:44
The district is actively looking at. 00:43:47
Any and all. 00:43:50
Funding that. 00:43:51
We can get our hands on. 00:43:52
The as you may may know. 00:43:55
Funding environment has completely changed. 00:44:01
And DC and it used to be for example. 00:44:04
It used to be that. 00:44:07
USDA. 00:44:08
Would obtain nationwide 4 to $500 million of. 00:44:10
Grant funding. 00:44:14
Today, they have only received this year 95 million. 00:44:16
So it's like 20%. 00:44:21
Of what they're, you know, used to. And I think a lot of that money's gone to the. 00:44:22
Congressional. 00:44:29
Direct spending. 00:44:30
Funding so. 00:44:32
I think it hurts rural communities, but. 00:44:34
You know there are people smarter than me back there so. 00:44:39
I'm not going to worry about that. 00:44:42
So is smarter, but yeah. 00:44:44
The climate's always changing, isn't it? It's always changing. Yes, Sir. 00:44:48
So we have. 00:44:52
We're having a groundbreaking next Monday. 00:44:55
Everyone's invited love to have you join us. 00:44:58
That's at 10:00 at the treatment plant site. 00:45:02
So if. 00:45:05
Don't know where that is as you're going north of 188. 00:45:06
And right before you cross the railroad tracks. 00:45:10
Turn left. 00:45:13
That's where it is. 00:45:14
So on that site so. 00:45:16
Love to have you there. 00:45:17
We're thrilled to get this thing started. 00:45:18
It's it's. 00:45:22
Personally, it's. 00:45:25
I'm still not believing until I start seeing some. 00:45:28
Echoes out there and some work really getting done so. 00:45:31
Got involved with this project in July of 2000. 00:45:35
Well, so it's been our. 00:45:38
It's been a lifetime. 00:45:40
But if? 00:45:42
It's been great. It's been a blessing. 00:45:43
And again, I just want to say thank you. 00:45:45
To Gila County. 00:45:48
And all your staff and everybody has been so grateful for. 00:45:49
With SO I don't have any other questions, I'd be happy. 00:45:53
Try to answer them. 00:45:57
I, I have no questions. I've I've been. 00:46:00
I've been in this project for nine years. 00:46:03
When I first showed up at the board meeting, they said I was the first elected official they'd. 00:46:06
And I couldn't understand why for the benefit. 00:46:10
Of the community and district. 00:46:13
Too, We have a lot of cesspools that have failed. You can drive around and. 00:46:16
See Vacant properties. 00:46:21
And as you see the water. 00:46:23
Shortage continue. 00:46:25
Being able to capture all of this water, it's just. 00:46:28
Going in. 00:46:32
Soaking into the ground, hopefully not in too many aquifers. 00:46:33
But to be able to. 00:46:37
To recap. 00:46:38
That that water that's just going into cesspools or septic tank. 00:46:40
And and and be a commodity back to. 00:46:44
The copper mines that use an awful lot of water for their mining. 00:46:47
Then they're not having their straws and aquifers that that we need for other purposes. 00:46:51
This reclaimed water is. 00:46:56
Is going to be amazing. 00:46:58
Yes. And so, yeah, it's, it's it. 00:47:00
It's something that I've. 00:47:03
Been to a lot of meetings I've been. 00:47:05
You know, helping. 00:47:07
Of getting the. 00:47:09
The the area set up for Globe, Miami and tri-cities. It's been. 00:47:10
One of my main. 00:47:15
Pushes and so I'm like you, I I. 00:47:17
I'm happy to see it finally here. 00:47:21
Because I ran on blight and infrastructure. 00:47:24
And I didn't know it's going to be 9 years. 00:47:27
But it's great to see. 00:47:29
To see this getting started. 00:47:32
For the benefit that it will be to the community. 00:47:35
And I hope as it goes. 00:47:38
As it gets started and progresses, I know there's. 00:47:40
Been a lot of. 00:47:44
Difficulties with the town of Miami and. 00:47:45
But gloves have been pretty supportive I hope. 00:47:47
As as we go forward in different phases. 00:47:50
Because Globe has annexed property that. 00:47:53
They can't serve. 00:47:55
And so hopefully Tri-City. 00:47:56
Can do an IGA with the city of already. 00:47:59
To pick up, yeah, a lot of those places because there's restaurants and things on cesspools, I mean on septic tanks that can be 00:48:01
hooked to sewer and. 00:48:06
Hopefully, the town of Miami can. 00:48:11
Can come in too, because they have their own system. 00:48:13
But they passed a lot of. 00:48:16
Of residential areas that I hope may be. 00:48:18
At some point in time that can be resolved. 00:48:22
To help parts of. 00:48:25
Miami. 00:48:26
Residents that could be served as well so. 00:48:28
Yeah, it it. 00:48:32
It's been a. 00:48:33
It's been a long ride, but. 00:48:34
I I'm very glad to see this at where? 00:48:36
And as far as funding, I think. 00:48:39
You know, I think once it gets started and there's progress. 00:48:42
I think funding will follow because. 00:48:46
They've outlawed. 00:48:48
That's full. So. So they're gonna have to help us. 00:48:49
With funding. 00:48:53
To to be able to do that. 00:48:54
For our constituents. 00:48:56
Thank you very much for. 00:48:59
Have taken hold of this project as you have. 00:49:02
And as far as I'm concerned, as a supervisor. 00:49:05
I'll help in any way. 00:49:10
That I can. 00:49:12
And as it goes forward, so. 00:49:13
Thank you very much. 00:49:15
Thank you for that. 00:49:17
Mike, thank you. 00:49:19
The first thing done. 00:49:20
Yes, thank you and. 00:49:23
I just was going to ask all of us some. 00:49:24
Funding. Do you have match money that you have to pay on that? 00:49:27
Some of that is match money and it's coming from the USDA loan. 00:49:30
As being a lot of things and so being a district, you collect money. 00:49:34
Through taxation, but. 00:49:39
You're able to handle that. 00:49:41
Yes, there's money. 00:49:44
Yes, yeah. 00:49:46
Yes. 00:49:47
Yes. 00:49:48
OK, tell me again. 00:49:49
Please, the grand opening or the opening? 00:49:51
Date it's the 30th. 00:49:54
Next Monday. 00:49:56
At 10:00. 00:49:58
At 10, OK. 00:49:59
All right. Thank you. 00:50:00
Thank you for that presentation. 00:50:02
Thank you. 00:50:04
Good to hear. 00:50:05
All right. I think that's all we have. 00:50:06
OK. Thank you. 00:50:08
And our next item? 00:50:10
Is 2C information discussion to consider the adoption of a code? 00:50:13
Of conduct policy regarding all. 00:50:17
County owned property. 00:50:20
Michael, come and tell us all about that. 00:50:22
Thank you, Chairman and members of the board. 00:50:25
So as we increase the amount of. 00:50:27
Events out at our fairgrounds. 00:50:31
One of the. 00:50:33
Issues we have seen. 00:50:34
Staff has dealt with is the increase of. 00:50:36
Residents and visitors treating staff. 00:50:41
Poorly. 00:50:43
Bringing alcohol on to the premises. 00:50:44
And doing all sorts of things that. 00:50:46
Are sort of putting our employees at. 00:50:49
Risk, uh. 00:50:52
In dealing with this. 00:50:53
And we're seeing an increase called to law enforcement to come out. 00:50:55
To engage. 00:50:58
With some of this poor behavior. 00:51:00
And if you recall a couple years ago. 00:51:01
We had a situation out of the fairgrounds. 00:51:04
And in consulting with the. 00:51:07
County Attorney and the Board of Supervisors with that issue. 00:51:10
It was determined by the County Attorney that we really don't have a. 00:51:14
Policy to fall back on to. 00:51:17
If we have. 00:51:19
Poor conduct by residents. 00:51:20
Visitors or even county staff. 00:51:22
To handle some of these situations. So the recommendation was. 00:51:24
To come up with a draft code of conduct. 00:51:28
And present it to the board for their input and direction on that before we. 00:51:31
Moving to the next stage of possibly finalizing the draft. 00:51:37
And so the purpose of this code of conduct is several counties out there have very similar. 00:51:40
Code of conducts is to. 00:51:46
Try and provide. 00:51:48
A safe area for residents and visitors and staff. 00:51:51
At all county properties. 00:51:55
At first we. 00:51:57
Talking about. 00:51:59
Having the code of conduct just for the fairgrounds. 00:52:00
And then at the recommendation of the County Attorney, they said why don't you expand it through all of our property? 00:52:03
Because we expect. 00:52:09
That behavior at all of our products. 00:52:10
Properties and we have had in past situations. 00:52:12
People show up to other. 00:52:16
Properties in pace in that community. 00:52:18
Development or public works? 00:52:21
And we've had. 00:52:22
Deal with some poor behavior out there. 00:52:25
And then when I reached out to the other department directors. 00:52:27
They they also let me know some of the some of the behavioral issues they've been dealing with. 00:52:31
Especially at the landfills. 00:52:36
There seems to be. 00:52:38
There seems to be some. 00:52:40
Behavior at the landfills that need to be addressed. 00:52:42
Such as? 00:52:44
People letting their. 00:52:46
Children. 00:52:47
And pets letting them loose. 00:52:48
While they're waiting in line. 00:52:50
To put the trash into the landfill. 00:52:52
Smoking a marijuana. 00:52:55
Drinking while they're waiting in line. 00:52:57
All sorts of behaviors that I was unaware of that were happening so. 00:52:59
So this particular work session is just to get your thoughts and input into a code of conduct policy. 00:53:04
I did want to mention at least. 00:53:11
One item on this code of conduct policy, we haven't really finalized or really worked on that. 00:53:14
That hard with is the County Attorney we have to. 00:53:20
Make sure to. 00:53:23
The rights of the individuals, of the visitors, of the residents. 00:53:25
Are adhered to so. 00:53:29
We're thinking of possibly running this through the hearing officer that we currently have. 00:53:31
To provide a. 00:53:36
Hearing if people want to. 00:53:38
Come in front of the board. 00:53:41
And say that they've been unduly prosecuted. 00:53:43
For this code of conduct. 00:53:46
So we're considering putting it through the hearing officer. 00:53:47
And then having the final. 00:53:50
A decision possibly in front of the board if they want to continue it that way, so the full board would make that decision. 00:53:52
Once we present the evidence. 00:53:59
Of any kind of unduly behavior. 00:54:01
So I'd be happy to answer any of her questions and. 00:54:03
And really what I'm here for is just to hear your thoughts on this code of conduct. 00:54:06
And and go from there. 00:54:11
Thank you, Michael. 00:54:13
Supervisor Humphrey. 00:54:14
Yeah, I. 00:54:16
I do believe we need one. 00:54:17
For our property so that there's. 00:54:19
Definitely rules that people need to follow to. 00:54:22
Use our facilities and property. 00:54:25
I thought you were, you know, you talk about the hearing officer. I think that's fine, but. 00:54:28
You know when I read through it. 00:54:33
The first offense. 00:54:35
The second fence. 00:54:36
The third offense the the 4th. 00:54:37
It's like. 00:54:40
I think you have been. 00:54:42
Very lenient. 00:54:44
With the people. 00:54:45
You know, for like a fair or things of that nature. OK, they got a warning. 00:54:46
But after your 4th warning, it's like. 00:54:51
Come on. 00:54:53
We really need to change this behavior so I. 00:54:53
I think in. 00:54:56
I think in in this particular. 00:54:57
One you've you've been more than fair. 00:55:00
With someone who might. 00:55:03
Not appreciate or. 00:55:05
Or take care of. 00:55:08
Our facilities as as they should or help us take care of those facilities so. 00:55:10
I think it's a good idea. 00:55:15
And again. 00:55:17
If if we load more on our hearing. 00:55:18
I'd like to have. 00:55:21
You know, because we. 00:55:23
We just keep coming up with things and now from, you know, building to flight to. 00:55:24
You know, now the short term rentals and so you know, code of conduct and things it's like. 00:55:30
I don't want to overload our hearing officer to the point that. 00:55:36
People are not going before him for. 00:55:41
Eight months. 00:55:43
Because there's so much backup. Because we only have one. 00:55:45
But I think. 00:55:48
I think it's necessary that we have one. I read through it, I don't. 00:55:50
See any problems with it and and like I say. 00:55:53
You know and. 00:55:56
They're they're able to. 00:55:58
She crossed the line 3 or 4 times before. 00:56:00
You know, it gets real serious for them so. 00:56:03
I think I think it was. 00:56:06
Well done. Thank you, Michael. 00:56:08
Thank you, Supervisor. 00:56:09
Michael, I have not read through that draft yet. 00:56:12
But when I do, I'll get back with you on it. 00:56:15
Yes, Sir. Thank you. 00:56:17
I I have I got some red. 00:56:18
Can't comment. 00:56:20
So I think it's OK to have a code of conduct or some recommendations on guidelines OK. 00:56:23
And I think it should be countrywide and all of that, but there is different applications like. 00:56:28
If you're in the RV. 00:56:32
RV or your champion or your. 00:56:34
Versus saying being in a building or. 00:56:37
Something else? I think that there might be some differences so. 00:56:40
What I struggled with and I and I can imagine you. 00:56:43
Develop this. 00:56:45
By observing other code of conduct. 00:56:48
From other counties or something like that. OK, yeah. 00:56:52
Cut and paste, I get it. 00:56:56
So, umm. 00:56:57
Here's what I'm worried about. 00:56:59
So on the very bottom of the first page it says aggressive intimidation or harassment of patrons. 00:57:01
And so that. 00:57:07
That sounds. 00:57:09
Yeah, OK. But what is aggressive? 00:57:09
Intimidation. 00:57:12
If you wear a Trump hat, is that? 00:57:14
Aggressive intimidation. 00:57:17
OK, some people are going to be offended by that. We have our culture right now, a society that just loves to be offended. 00:57:19
By everything and if they feel like that old. 00:57:26
You know that's a message to me. 00:57:28
That, umm. 00:57:31
That you're. 00:57:32
You're gonna. 00:57:33
Stab me or you're gonna, you know, and I feel threatened by it. 00:57:34
You know so. 00:57:37
We've got to be careful how we word some of this. 00:57:38
If people are sitting around on one of our properties and they have a political or religious discussion and someone's offended by 00:57:41
that. 00:57:45
How does that come into that? 00:57:49
How much of this is subjective? So. 00:57:51
There's a difference to me between being aggressive or. 00:57:54
And just being I'm not happy about this or. 00:57:57
This infant and I'm impolite. I'm dissatisfied with what you told me. 00:58:00
And I don't agree with it and. 00:58:05
I'm gonna argue with you about it a little bit. 00:58:08
So if that. 00:58:10
Aggressive is that intimidating is that? 00:58:12
A violation, because what we're trying to do then is control speech. 00:58:16
And I think it's OK that we have someone that goes to community development perhaps. 00:58:21
And says. 00:58:25
I don't understand what you're asking me. I don't agree with it. I think that you're wrong. 00:58:27
Well, is is that? 00:58:31
Something that we're. 00:58:33
Call the Sheriff's Department on. I don't think so. 00:58:35
So we have to make sure that our code of conduct doesn't include just. 00:58:38
Someone that might. 00:58:43
Be having a bad day? 00:58:44
And hasn't crossed over into the violent. 00:58:46
You know, thing like that and then this other one on page 2, fourth down says possessing or consuming alcohol. 00:58:49
Now there's a difference between possessing and consuming. 00:58:56
So someone. 00:59:01
The court, they're part of the jury. They got a bottle of wine in the backseat of their car. 00:59:02
They're not consuming it, but they've just violated our code of conduct by possessing it. So I kind of. 00:59:07
Think about that. 00:59:13
The next one is possessing weapons. 00:59:15
And I hate the word weapon. 00:59:20
Weapon is something. 00:59:22
Is the type of usage of something. 00:59:23
Possessing weapons or other items designed or intended to injure or harm people. 00:59:26
Would that be like bazookas grenades? 00:59:31
Tanks. Missiles. 00:59:35
Those are the kind of things that are intent. 00:59:38
On harming. 00:59:41
Individuals. So what are you actually saying? What is? 00:59:43
What is the item? 00:59:46
That you're talking about possessing a weapon. 00:59:48
You're going to say, oh, well, that's a firearm. 00:59:53
Well, a firearm is not a weapon unless it's used out. 00:59:55
Right. Is it a baseball bat? Is. 00:59:58
A knife is it. Nunchucks is it? 01:00:01
Brass knuckles, What is it? 01:00:03
So that's a hard one. 01:00:05
And then it says at the end unless explicitly permitted by law. 01:00:08
Like the Second Amendment, I'm not sure what that means. It's. 01:00:12
Implicitly. 01:00:16
Permitted. 01:00:18
By law. 01:00:20
OK, that's very vague. 01:00:22
That and the next one is dropping off or leaving children. 01:00:24
Unattended. 01:00:29
So. 01:00:30
I don't know what dropping off means. Does that mean dropping them off? 01:00:32
To a friend, to a family member. You're going somewhere. You're dropping them off. 01:00:36
To watch the rodeo. 01:00:41
You know, or are you leaving them unattended? Those are two different things. 01:00:43
OK. And then? 01:00:47
You need to read through this thing. 01:00:51
OK. 01:00:53
Engaging in conduct. 01:00:56
Or using profane. 01:00:57
Language abusive Language that needs to be better. 01:01:01
Defined because that, like I said, is very subjective. 01:01:04
Here, speaking or engaging in other express activities. 01:01:10
That is objectionable under community standards. 01:01:15
OK, So what you're saying is under the. 01:01:20
Cultural norm. 01:01:23
You're speaking or engaging in an activity that is. 01:01:29
Some that is objectionable to. 01:01:32
The the cultural hive. 01:01:35
Objectionable to the Liberals, objectional to the. 01:01:39
Conservatives objectionable to the people that are on the view? What? 01:01:43
What are we talking about? Objectionable. 01:01:47
Because there's no way to define that. 01:01:51
Someone is going to be offended by what you say. 01:01:54
And so that's basically saying you can't do anything that might offend someone else. 01:01:57
I think that's really hard to. 01:02:02
Have in this. 01:02:05
And. 01:02:06
Down at the bottom of page 2, I think that whole list down there, six of them. 01:02:08
That's OK. 01:02:12
That defines. 01:02:13
Exactly what we're talking about. 01:02:15
There's six bullet items. 01:02:17
That are just. 01:02:19
Simple to the point. 01:02:20
And. 01:02:22
Egregious. 01:02:24
And the next page. 01:02:25
The last page down at the bottom. 01:02:27
There's two bullet points. 01:02:29
Those I think are OK. 01:02:30
You're harassing. 01:02:33
You're violating. 01:02:34
Committing crimes. 01:02:36
You're being physically, verbally, or sexually inappropriate. 01:02:39
But those are. That should be really. 01:02:43
Core of the conduct. 01:02:46
I think. 01:02:47
So hopefully that's helpful. 01:02:48
Thank you for doing this, first of all and presenting it. We're just trying to fine tune it. 01:02:50
And I appreciate it, Chairman. These are excellent points. 01:02:55
OK. And we'll certainly go back and do a lot more clarifying and and editing of this. 01:02:58
And do another work session on this in the near future. 01:03:04
Yeah, I think everyone has different sensitivities. Of what? 01:03:07
They're offended by. 01:03:10
And you never know, sometimes you'll be talking to somebody, or you'll. 01:03:12
Whatever and they're offended or they feel intimidated, you have no idea you're doing that. 01:03:15
That is true. 01:03:20
Because it's not really that overt. 01:03:21
It's just someone. Someone is offended. 01:03:23
Because of their. 01:03:27
Their personality, their viewpoints, their fears, whatever. 01:03:29
And that's really hard to regulate. 01:03:33
Thank you, supervisor. I appreciate your input. I appreciate that. 01:03:37
So any more discussion on this one? Good. 01:03:40
Good job. Yeah, OK. 01:03:42
Well, thanks. Thank you. All right, thank you. 01:03:44
I probably exceeded the code of conduct right there somewhere. 01:03:49
Well, good morning, Christine. 01:03:55
Good morning, Karen. I think you're anticipating moving on to item 2D. 01:03:57
Yes, information discussion regarding potential flood recovery projects and financial resources. 01:04:01
So we have Christine, you're going to start things off and we'll have homeroom and Tom. 01:04:06
Here as well. 01:04:10
Good morning. 01:04:11
Good morning. 01:04:11
Good morning, Chairman, Supervisors. 01:04:15
At the last Board of Supervisors meeting on March 17th. 01:04:19
We were. 01:04:23
Pleased to let you know that. 01:04:24
We had received information from the NRCS that. 01:04:26
We had finally our funds were approved. 01:04:30
As you know, we have been trying to work. 01:04:34
Consistently. 01:04:37
Timely, if anything, as quickly as we can to continue to make these projects. 01:04:39
Come to fruition. 01:04:45
So today really what we're really trying to. 01:04:48
Focus on. 01:04:52
And to engage in with you. 01:04:53
Part with you is. 01:04:55
We're at a critical point. 01:04:58
Our 220 days. 01:04:59
Are under. 01:05:01
Our goal today is to. 01:05:03
Go over the projects a little bit more. 01:05:06
About lessons learned from last time. 01:05:08
What we're doing differently? 01:05:11
Who was our team members? 01:05:14
And so we can answer your questions today and hopefully you can answer any. 01:05:16
Questions that you receive. 01:05:21
So before we go much further, I'm going to ask everybody from our team just to stand really quick. 01:05:24
And we'll just do a quick introduction. 01:05:30
So I'm going to start with you 2. Come on. 01:05:33
Come on everybody. 01:05:36
You're here for a reason today. 01:05:37
So this is our team. 01:05:44
And I'd like to recognize them because we are. 01:05:46
Here today, in very good shape. 01:05:50
To be able to deliver these projects. 01:05:53
Everybody's been conscientious. 01:05:55
They've been diligent. 01:05:58
And I can't say anything more other than high praises for what this team is bringing to the county. 01:05:59
Thank you. And they'll be introduced a little bit later. 01:06:07
Thank you all. 01:06:11
And Marin too, even though she didn't stand. 01:06:12
So really we are at again at this critical point. 01:06:18
We need to deliver these projects. 01:06:21
There's lots of little nuances like monsoons. 01:06:23
And different aspects that this team is aware of. 01:06:26
And they are working into the plan. 01:06:30
To try to prevent any surprises and to minimize any unknowns that were running into. 01:06:33
So with that, Pomero and Tom are going to go into the details. 01:06:39
Of this team effort. 01:06:44
And we have that the whole team here if you have specific questions. 01:06:46
So thank you. 01:06:50
Thank you, Christine. 01:06:50
Good morning. 01:06:56
Morning, Chair Merrill. 01:06:57
I'm happy to be here again. 01:06:59
Thank you. 01:07:03
So we're going to. 01:07:06
Be looking at some things that you've seen before and some new things. So I'm going to. 01:07:07
Move over to. 01:07:12
And like a table of contents on. 01:07:14
Topics for the work session. 01:07:17
We're going to look at the NRTS projects. 01:07:21
And they're a source of funding and the project list? 01:07:24
We're going to look at the FEMA DEMA projects as well. 01:07:29
There's been some changes there where we. 01:07:31
New items and we found alternate solutions for. 01:07:33
Some of our other projects. 01:07:37
We're going to also have one slide on the cash flow. What impact does this recovery effort have? 01:07:38
For the county need for. 01:07:44
And we're going to. 01:07:47
Talk about the NRCS project. We're actually going to any new project. 01:07:49
And the NRTS project, we're going to have a slide for you. 01:07:53
Some of the old FEMA projects, we don't have a slide for you. 01:07:56
But on the NRCS project the. 01:07:59
Folks is going to be what are we doing differently? 01:08:01
And how are we going to accomplish what we need to accomplish in the 220 day period? 01:08:04
And of course, at the end, hopefully we have time for some discussion and input from the board. 01:08:08
As we proceed forward. 01:08:14
I'm going to get started with. 01:08:16
The NRC. 01:08:20
This is a summary. 01:08:21
Of the work we're doing with NRCS. 01:08:23
And like I said, we're going to be looking at slides for each of the projects later on. 01:08:26
The very top line says NRCS funding approved. 01:08:32
March 16. 01:08:35
And the amount of funding that was approved. 01:08:37
Is very significant. 01:08:40
It's actually. 01:08:41
25. 01:08:43
2626 and a half million dollars. 01:08:44
Of funding that NRCS. 01:08:47
Is through. 01:08:49
Gila County and say here. 01:08:51
And do something with these some of these permanent projects that you're envisioning that you can do. 01:08:53
For the most part, these projects. 01:08:59
I'll keep our roads open. 01:09:01
We've already lost Russell Rd. 01:09:03
Well, six shooter. 01:09:05
Ice out Copper Hills. 01:09:06
Ice House Canyon. 01:09:09
Some of these roads and some of these crossings are. 01:09:11
Subject to future failure. 01:09:13
And the funding that we received allows us to make them more durable and to stabilize the ropes. 01:09:16
Some of these roads are very important. 01:09:22
In some cases they. 01:09:24
They offer the. 01:09:25
One and only way of coming in or the only way that you can come in with a regular vehicle. So you've got some I think very 01:09:27
important projects on the NRCS. 01:09:31
List but I wanted to. 01:09:36
Just, uh. 01:09:39
Thank NRCS. 01:09:41
For the partnership that they have brought to the table for us. 01:09:43
They have guided us through the application process. 01:09:46
And they have. 01:09:49
Offered to. 01:09:51
Partner with us the rest of the way as well. 01:09:52
And later on, you're going to see a slide. 01:09:55
And that's something that's. 01:09:57
Maybe a little different, maybe we didn't appreciate it the first time, or maybe we didn't capitalize on it the first time. 01:09:58
But this time, we're leaning on NRCS to help us make the project. 01:10:04
And we do have a couple of folks. 01:10:08
From NRCS, right? 01:10:10
Nick, you have someone else with you miss. 01:10:11
Just me, OK. 01:10:14
So Nick Lane has guided us the first time and actually the second time. 01:10:15
And actually, he's not only done this for Gila County, but he's done this for Globe Miami and San Carlos Pride as well. 01:10:21
And so I think NRCS is really. 01:10:27
I've done a lot of good stuff for his account. 01:10:31
But anyway, the the green highlight that you see. 01:10:33
Is the project costs. 01:10:36
For the various projects. 01:10:39
You can see that flood warnings got a line through the middle. 01:10:40
It was not funded. 01:10:44
That was the only thing that was not funded. 01:10:45
OK, everything else was funded. 01:10:47
And you see the levels of funding for each of those? 01:10:49
The construction cost from an NRCS standpoint of what they're eligible to consider as a project. 01:10:54
With with the with the hospital wall. 01:11:03
$29.8 million. 01:11:07
And if you go across that line where it says. 01:11:10
Our total NRCS construction cost with hospital wall. 01:11:12
You look at the NRCS share if. 01:11:15
A little over 22 million. 01:11:18
The county. 01:11:20
Or by the way, we're doing something to those ropes that aren't eligible for NRCS funding. But. 01:11:21
We need to make these in. 01:11:27
Improvements in order to proceed with the project. 01:11:29
So we're spending another $1,000,000 of our money, her money or some other money. 01:11:31
It comes from the county. 01:11:36
To make. 01:11:37
To make these improvements. 01:11:40
OK. And so? 01:11:41
If you were to ask. 01:11:43
Well, how much is the county really gonna spend? Well, it's a. It's a. 01:11:45
It's those two numbers. 01:11:48
Plus later on in the blue highlight. 01:11:50
You see engineering costs. 01:11:54
Well, NRCS we asked for. 01:11:56
The construction cost that you see up on the green highlight. 01:11:59
We didn't actually ask. 01:12:03
For engineering funding, we talked about that we could get some. 01:12:04
And that we may get some. 01:12:08
But actually, NRCS has brought $4,000,000 to the table to pay for engineering costs and project administration. 01:12:10
For all of these projects. 01:12:17
OK. And if you followed the blue line across, we've actually already spent 500,000 on engineering. Well, we'll have spent 500,000. 01:12:19
We have a contract. 01:12:23
With Jane for early on. 01:12:27
To get them started, we offered them a contract for 500,000 to get started. 01:12:29
And that's mostly spent. 01:12:34
So the NRCS funding is going to come in and help us now. 01:12:36
Pay for any future engineering clock going forward. 01:12:40
And perhaps even going backwards we haven't got to. 01:12:42
That year, but. 01:12:46
Normally the administration. 01:12:48
Private cost from an engineering company to manage a project. 01:12:49
After design. 01:12:53
Is typical. 01:12:55
It very typical is like 10%. 01:12:56
OK. So it's not, it's not an insignificant cost, it's a significant cost. 01:12:59
So, Chairman. 01:13:03
If the 500,000, where does that money come from? 01:13:05
That money is part of our recovery effort. It's been paid for. 01:13:08
And they're being paid for it as we get invoices. 01:13:12
From funding that is available to the county at this point in time. 01:13:15
Through. 01:13:21
ARPA, you say or. 01:13:22
No, no, it's, it's right now at 500,000 was funded by Gila County OK, not hers. 01:13:23
Not her. OK, got it. 01:13:30
Later on the county will decide is it herf money or is it recovery money or what what happens but this I'm just trying to present. 01:13:32
The recovery cost. 01:13:40
For Gila County. 01:13:42
And the cash that we would need to. 01:13:43
Pay for these recovery costs. 01:13:45
So I've included 500,000 that's already mostly been spent. 01:13:47
And partly. 01:13:50
Because it is a cost that we incurred because of the storms. 01:13:52
We wouldn't have gone to J4 and do those things. 01:13:55
Do these things. 01:13:58
Without the storms happening. 01:13:59
So as part of our recovery. 01:14:01
And that's a good question because you'll see the. 01:14:03
We've done something, we've already paid for him. 01:14:07
Why am I including that? 01:14:09
And sharing that with you, it's because. 01:14:11
Because I'm trying to capture the recovery process. 01:14:13
To the best of our ability. 01:14:16
OK, so. 01:14:17
The total county share. 01:14:20
Without the hospital wall at the very bottom. 01:14:23
Yellow. 01:14:25
Box it's eight point. 01:14:26
$7,000,000. 01:14:29
Little over $8.7 million eight million 767,407. 01:14:30
That money that comes out of our pocket. 01:14:35
One way or another. 01:14:38
Whether it's without recovery cross funds, that's set aside by the county. 01:14:40
That if it comes from somewhere in the county. 01:14:44
In return. 01:14:49
We get from. 01:14:52
NRCS 26. 01:14:54
And a half million dollars. 01:14:56
Including the hospital. 01:14:58
OK, 25.7. 01:15:00
For just a county. 01:15:02
So I go back to the top line. 01:15:05
It's great news. 01:15:09
It's exciting. 01:15:11
Who will receive money? 01:15:13
And up there it says approved March 16th. 01:15:14
The next line. 01:15:17
It's also a challenge to spend money wisely. 01:15:19
And quickly. 01:15:22
In the time frame that we have. So we've got two things here 1. 01:15:23
Kind of exciting to get it. 01:15:26
Now the work starts. 01:15:28
Completion date is October. 01:15:29
22nd. 01:15:31
Of this year. 01:15:32
So Tom will be sharing the slides on NRCS and what? 01:15:34
What are we doing different? 01:15:38
And when I think that we're doing different, we got partners sitting. 01:15:40
At the table with us. 01:15:43
That have a full commitment. 01:15:45
Whether it's J Fuller. 01:15:47
Or Tiffany construction. 01:15:49
Or NRCS. 01:15:50
It's a partnership that meets every week and and talks about how we're going to get this done. 01:15:52
Because that's that's the. 01:15:57
He had solution for us. 01:15:59
I guess another question for you before you're done, Homero. Thanks for that presentation. 01:16:01
March 16th. 01:16:06
The clock started. 01:16:07
Are we? This is a work session, so you're giving us information, is there? 01:16:12
An action that the board needs to do to start this process, or have we already started? 01:16:18
It's it's already started. 01:16:25
OK, I can't remember if we actually approved. 01:16:26
But we have. 01:16:30
We have a. 01:16:31
First of all, the funding to get a J4. 01:16:33
Many months ago. 01:16:37
Just recently. 01:16:38
The chairman yourself approved. 01:16:39
See Mark Contract with Tiffany Construction. 01:16:41
That gets them to the table and they start talking cost and time. 01:16:44
And later on, we'll have a guaranteed maximum price they're going to. 01:16:48
In the slide you're gonna see. 01:16:52
Something about the guaranteed maximum price? 01:16:53
It's at that time that we'll come back. 01:16:56
And the staff agrees that that's a reasonable cost working with JE Fuller, of course. 01:16:58
We agree that that's a reasonable cost. We'll bring it to the board. 01:17:02
Or approval. 01:17:06
And at that time. 01:17:07
We could call one of the one of the things that. 01:17:08
Different and I'm jumping my headset, taking something away from one of the slides that Tom has. 01:17:11
Is right now we're working concurrently with. 01:17:16
The contractor is here at the table and the design being completed. 01:17:19
Somewhere along the way, the design will be 90% complete. 01:17:24
And even without it being 100% complete, some construction will start. 01:17:28
That is already part of that drawing. That's already. 01:17:32
Not everything on the drawing is done. 01:17:34
But there's things that the contractor can do. 01:17:36
So we'll get the guaranteed maximum price in the minute that. 01:17:39
They can start working even if the darling is not. 01:17:43
100%. 01:17:45
So there's going to be an overlap between design and construction that we have never really visualized before. And that's one of 01:17:47
the things that changes trying to. 01:17:50
Keep it down to 220 days. 01:17:56
Thank you. 01:17:58
Mr. Chair, I do, I do believe that. 01:17:59
This is from the state of emergency. 01:18:02
So I believe as these projects go forward, if they have any questions. 01:18:04
Or need approval of anything going forward? 01:18:09
That the chairman can do it without a full board because it's under the state of emergency. 01:18:12
So if they go forward. 01:18:18
If they need a board decision in a state of emergency. 01:18:19
You can make that. 01:18:22
Vision we don't have. Thanks for reminding me of that. Yeah, it's been signing paper so. 01:18:24
Yeah, and that and that's why because it doesn't. 01:18:29
State of emergency, You're the boss. 01:18:31
Oh so. 01:18:33
So we'll pick. 01:18:36
Mr. Humphrey. 01:18:40
No, I'm sorry, Mr. 01:18:42
Mr. Chairman. 01:18:45
Supervisor Humphrey point out that. 01:18:46
We are under the. 01:18:48
A Board of Supervisors declared state of emergency that. 01:18:49
We have signed. 01:18:53
Numerous contracts. All of these contracts are going to come back to the board. 01:18:54
That they will be ratified by the entirety of the board. 01:18:58
At a point in the future. 01:19:01
So we'll need to remember that that as we go forward that we're. 01:19:04
In order to. 01:19:08
Ensure to the greatest extent possible and get through this 220 days. 01:19:10
Is essential that we have that state of emergency that we can get these. 01:19:14
Contract signed. 01:19:17
As soon as possible. 01:19:18
Within a day instead of two or three weeks. 01:19:19
That it would take to get through the Board of Supervisors as a whole. 01:19:22
So thank you for that and pointing that out to Ryan Humphrey. That's critical for our success. 01:19:25
I do want to point out the $500,000 that's essentially. 01:19:31
General fund dollars. 01:19:33
From the counties that are covering that. 01:19:35
A few weeks ago. 01:19:37
You as a board supervisors. 01:19:38
When Mark Reader was here. 01:19:41
Approved Declaration or approved. 01:19:43
Us going forward, potentially. 01:19:45
Funding with financing. 01:19:47
Through a bond. 01:19:49
High financing at that point. 01:19:51
We could go back, certainly. 01:19:53
Length of time, like 60 days in any expenses we've had through 60 days. 01:19:55
Could potentially be. 01:19:59
Included in that. 01:20:01
Bond and so that. 01:20:03
Will help to cover our cash flow. 01:20:04
And help us with all things that we don't drain our. 01:20:06
General fund cash reserves. 01:20:08
So much that it damages our ability to operate. 01:20:10
So that is in two weeks. 01:20:14
Mr. Reid will be back before you as Board of Supervisors. 01:20:16
To make the decision are we going to go to bond or not? 01:20:20
So that's in two weeks. 01:20:23
It's been proposed up to. 01:20:25
18.32 or $3,000,000. 01:20:28
For you to consider. 01:20:31
Of financing. 01:20:32
And again, built into that is. 01:20:34
If we don't use the full 18,000,000, well, we can. 01:20:36
Hey, all. Hey, Jack. 01:20:39
Back and and and buy down the debt. 01:20:41
It's flexible when we can of our payments, particularly upfront as we're trying to maneuver through this. 01:20:44
Cash flow and those types of things. 01:20:50
A lot of flexibility that you typically don't see. 01:20:52
Built into debt. 01:20:55
Finances. 01:20:56
Because of the uncertainties and the things that we are working through. 01:20:58
We it's essential we have that flexibility. 01:21:01
Well, those two things I wanted to point out the emergency. 01:21:04
It's very helpful. Thank you. 01:21:07
And the debt and where that? 01:21:08
The source of money is coming from currently. 01:21:11
And where potential will come from in the future, should you decide to. 01:21:13
Elect that bond debt financing. 01:21:16
Thank you, Chair. 01:21:20
Homer, when we look at this, 8.7 million for the county's cost. 01:21:21
Share on this. 01:21:25
Is it that's total for all these projects that for NRCS? 01:21:26
We're going to talk about FEMA next. 01:21:29
OK. And so 8.7 for NRCS? 01:21:32
Our share. 01:21:36
NRCS brings to the table 26 and a half million. That's. 01:21:38
We should celebrate, right? 01:21:43
But we need to get it done in that time frame so. 01:21:44
We'll celebrate when we get it done, OK? 01:21:47
So now I would like to move to the FEMA slide. 01:21:50
The darker blue. 01:21:54
That you see up there are items that you've seen before. 01:21:56
The lighter blue or new items? 01:21:59
And then some items that were presented previously were not shown. 01:22:02
Because we found alternate solutions and so the following slide will bring those. 01:22:06
To your attention. 01:22:10
Or your or your input. 01:22:12
OK, so we. 01:22:13
The very first top line. 01:22:16
Is called a project. 01:22:18
Number one. 01:22:20
Emergency protective measures. 01:22:22
I think I told you last time that stuff our efforts that we undertook at the time. 01:22:25
Responding to the emergency are. 01:22:30
Road yard folks. 01:22:33
Our equipment that was used. 01:22:35
For that if we hired a contractor. 01:22:37
We have kind of like an invoice that we're submitting. 01:22:40
This week to. 01:22:43
FEMA for 100 and. 01:22:44
$50,000 of that 400,000. 01:22:46
And as we gather. 01:22:49
The remaining numbers from the October storm will submit something similar. 01:22:51
We may not get to 400,000, that was just an estimate on our part. 01:22:56
Some of the things that we thought were going to be included. 01:23:00
Now are excluded. 01:23:03
For instance, we thought we were going to be able to recover the operator time for operating the equipment. 01:23:05
FEMA told us no. 01:23:11
Only the overtime. 01:23:12
So, umm. 01:23:14
Maybe this number was? 01:23:15
Once Upon a time, inflated beyond what? 01:23:16
FEMA would pay, but we're ready to submit $150,000. 01:23:19
To them. 01:23:23
They call it a limo. 01:23:24
To recover. 01:23:25
Most of the September storm activities that we had and then after we submit that one, we'll turn our attention to. 01:23:26
Submit a similar one for October. 01:23:32
The second project. 01:23:35
It's called debris management and testing. 01:23:37
We actually issued a contract. 01:23:39
And our chairman signed that under the emergency procedure. 01:23:41
For $185,000 of. 01:23:45
Testing and to include a report at the end of the test analyzing the information. 01:23:47
And telling us how we would be a. 01:23:53
How would we be addressing all the different? 01:23:55
FEMA project that we had anticipated. 01:23:58
At that time, it was Kellner Pitt. 01:24:00
It was Russell gold sediment removal. 01:24:02
It was the sediment piles that are at the landfill. 01:24:05
And it was the debris piles so. 01:24:08
We actually tested all of that. We've learned a lot from that. And then actually. 01:24:11
Enables us to think of alternate solutions for some of these things that I just mentioned right now. 01:24:14
And on the next slide, you'll see some of the alternate solutions. 01:24:20
Because you don't see pelvic fit on here. So for instance. 01:24:23
And you don't see the sediment piles on this slide. 01:24:26
There on the next slide, we found a better, different way to do it. 01:24:29
OK. And so the things that and so. 01:24:32
We mostly spent that money. 01:24:35
They're invoicing us right now. 01:24:38
We're turning to. 01:24:40
The county. 01:24:41
They pay for it and again, it's part of the recovery cost. 01:24:43
Without the testing, we really wouldn't know what to do with some of these sediment piles. 01:24:47
If you pick a sediment pile through the landfill. 01:24:52
Or through the four servers and the good neighbor agreement that we have with counterfeit. 01:24:55
It needs to be tested. 01:24:59
And it needs to meet the requirements, either of the ADEQ requirements for a landfill. 01:25:00
Or the requirements of the Forest Service. 01:25:05
So basically at the beginning. 01:25:08
At the end of the of the storm. 01:25:10
We had no choice but to do some testing. 01:25:12
And that's what we've done. 01:25:14
And again, it enables us to not plan the work and continue forward. 01:25:16
And one of the things, so the next item is the household debris. 01:25:20
Removal umm. 01:25:23
So what we learned from the testing was that we have some asbestos in that debris. 01:25:25
That household debris. 01:25:29
There is again at the landfill. 01:25:31
It needs to be moved out. 01:25:33
It's there under a temporary basis authorized by ADQ. 01:25:35
We want to haul it to, not our landfill because it's. 01:25:39
Capacity, but we want to haul it to. 01:25:42
Apache Junction. 01:25:44
And we've learned that it's not. 01:25:46
We shouldn't treat it all as asbestos containing material. 01:25:49
And actually we can lower the cost by shorting it. 01:25:53
And putting to the side what we. 01:25:57
Think is. 01:25:59
But we suspect this as best as campaigning. 01:26:01
And shipping the rest is just normal debris. 01:26:03
At a lower. 01:26:06
Shipping fee at Apache Junction Republic Service Landfill. 01:26:07
So that's what the project. 01:26:11
Is right now. 01:26:13
We're getting ready to. 01:26:15
Issue a contract to Safeware. 01:26:16
In the next I'm going to say 7 days. 01:26:19
Or sooner to do this work. 01:26:21
The debris removal. The household debris removal. 01:26:24
OK, the next item is. 01:26:27
With Russell Gulch flex mat. 01:26:30
Debris removal. 01:26:32
Once Upon that's colored. 01:26:34
A little lighter in blue. 01:26:36
Because we've changed that at one time we were going to take 12,000 tons. 01:26:38
Of that sediment. 01:26:42
And deposited at. 01:26:44
So on the next slide, you'll see why we're not doing that, but one of the reasons that. 01:26:46
We don't have to remove 12,000 tons is as the design progressed. 01:26:50
On the NRCS project to restore Russell Boat. 01:26:55
They felt that they could repurpose the bulk of that sediment. 01:26:58
And so therefore it doesn't have to be moved. 01:27:02
It's going to be reused. 01:27:04
There in that same project. 01:27:06
OK, part of it is? 01:27:08
Bank building up some of the banks, for instance. 01:27:11
But they're going to repurpose most of that sediment, so. 01:27:15
We're not moving sediment anymore out of Russell Gulch under FEMA. 01:27:18
The sediment will get repurposed under NRCS on the Russell Gulf Restoration project that you're going to hear about from Tom. 01:27:22
So that reduces the cost significantly. 01:27:30
And now we're just looking at. 01:27:32
Removing all fleximet debris from what's on the. 01:27:34
On the banks. 01:27:38
Some of it is on Cecil Trucking. 01:27:39
Another one is at another. 01:27:42
A lot that belongs to one of our local mines. 01:27:44
And then we have. 01:27:46
17 or 18 pieces or remnants of that. 01:27:48
Flex the math that's in the channel itself. 01:27:51
So that'll get removed and again will be sent to Apache Junction. 01:27:53
To not use up our landfill space. 01:27:58
And the estimated process for that. 01:28:01
Is $450,000. 01:28:02
In this particular slide. 01:28:05
I I I'm using the 25% local share. 01:28:07
As you know, there is no federal declaration at this time. 01:28:12
FEMA keeps saying that they're going to come visit us and then canceling. 01:28:16
They've done that twice. This is. 01:28:21
On October 31st, they're going to be here. 01:28:22
And really? 01:28:25
FEMA is going to come down looking for. 01:28:26
Who else can help you fund these projects? Or how else can you fund these projects? 01:28:29
In a way we kind of like beat them to the punch because we turned to NRCS at the very beginning. 01:28:34
Some of these projects that we have within RCS, but the. 01:28:39
Potentially have been FEMA projects. 01:28:42
But in the FEMA world? 01:28:44
When I thought that we're submitting these projects to FEMA. 01:28:46
We've talked to FEMA. 01:28:50
Repeatedly and dima that local. 01:28:51
Arizona Group. 01:28:54
And they nobody will put in writing that this project is approved. 01:28:56
You work on the basis that it's an eligible project based on what you read. 01:29:01
And all the documentation that you can read. 01:29:05
You presented. 01:29:07
And the time that the rubber meets the road and what you get reimbursed is when you make us a metal that says here I want to get 01:29:09
paid. 01:29:12
And so we may or may not get paid 100% for some of these projects. They'll find things that they can take off. 01:29:16
But if we can either wait and do nothing or do something, and right now I think we need to get. 01:29:22
Two projects that I just mentioned done. 01:29:27
And move forward. 01:29:29
And so we don't have any objections from the. There are no objections on the project that I mentioned. 01:29:30
They've not said no. 01:29:37
But there's nothing in writing or anything that says yes you will get refunded. There's total amount. 01:29:39
So there's there's risk with FEMA. 01:29:44
So almost no matter what you do. 01:29:46
Is that county share the 25% is? 01:29:48
It could move, it could change. 01:29:52
Correct. 01:29:54
OK. And we'll bring up that on a later slide, how we're treating that from a? 01:29:56
Recovery cost. 01:30:01
To the county. 01:30:03
So the new projects are Calendar. 01:30:05
So on the top you see kind of like the September storm. 01:30:08
Think that work happened both in September and October. 01:30:11
Based on the top part of the slide. On the bottom part of the slide. 01:30:14
You see things that were impacted. 01:30:18
With the October. 01:30:21
So Tilde Canyon low water crossing is one of them. 01:30:23
It's a it's an abutment erosion. 01:30:27
Water flows over the top and as it's leading. 01:30:30
The low water crossing it starts to erode on the edges and now the crossing is at point of failure. 01:30:33
OK, imminent failure. 01:30:40
And the important thing about calendar, we got a slide is that it's the only way in and out. 01:30:42
And I'm going to wait for the slide to cover that, but it is a very important road at this point in time for the county. 01:30:46
And it's a low cost project. We estimate about $200,000. 01:30:53
We have till April 15th to tell FEMA What? 01:30:57
We want. 01:31:01
From the. 01:31:01
So we have a little bit of time. 01:31:03
And our team will be looking at the $200,000 if it's valid or not. 01:31:05
When we submit the FEMA on April 15th, it's in the form of an estimate. 01:31:09
It can be higher or lower. 01:31:13
But we need to give them a good estimate. 01:31:15
And it's a it's a DIMA project. October is not FEMA. 01:31:17
It's FEMA is going to pay us. 01:31:21
Hopefully 75% of that project. 01:31:24
OK. And they've seen they've seen it already. 01:31:26
Several meetings with them. 01:31:30
And this item was presented to them. 01:31:31
And we're going to be putting it on the October. 01:31:33
This a project. The next item that is on the October list of projects is Cooley Ranch Rd. 01:31:35
Low water crossing. 01:31:42
Again, that's another crossing that on the point of failure. 01:31:44
OK. And we're going to see a slide on it that explains that. 01:31:47
And so the bottom line for FEMA projects? 01:31:51
Is $2.4 million. 01:31:55
And that includes the permanent projects at the bottom. 01:31:57
That includes the protective measures that I mentioned at the top. There's not going to be any future cash flow. We've already 01:32:00
spent it. 01:32:03
The debris management has been spent anyway, the summation of all of those. 01:32:07
$2.4 million. 01:32:11
The county shares 611. 01:32:12
And the FEMA dimmer. 01:32:15
If at the 75% rate. 01:32:16
Is $1.8 million. 01:32:18
OK, so. 01:32:21
We'll move on to. 01:32:23
What happened? 01:32:26
Counterpart And what happened to the sediment piles? And so we've got. 01:32:28
When we look at the way that FEMA requires you to move. 01:32:33
Debris and sediment. I'm not talking about the permanent project, OK. I'm talking about when you have to remove debris and 01:32:36
sediment. 01:32:38
They you need to. 01:32:42
No. When it was collected, who collected it, where they collected it, and that you have to. 01:32:45
Show them the documentation. 01:32:50
How you transported it and where you put it in. 01:32:53
It there is a lot of monitoring that takes place. 01:32:55
As part of the project we were actually going to. 01:32:59
Hired a company to do the monitoring for us and record and. 01:33:03
And provide a package that says. 01:33:06
Curious what happened for this project so that it would be audit. 01:33:08
Approved. OK. 01:33:12
And so the cross that you see here includes that. 01:33:13
But what I'm trying to point out is that debris. 01:33:16
Hauling is a very expensive. 01:33:20
Item within the FEMA. 01:33:24
Project types. 01:33:26
There's been no declaration. 01:33:29
The things that drive us to think of alternate solutions. There's been no declaration. 01:33:30
We found out that most of them material doesn't have hazards. 01:33:35
All of the material in Brussels is very clean, no hazards whatsoever. 01:33:39
Calendar fit the same thing. 01:33:43
That no heavy metals, no hydrocarbons, no volatiles. 01:33:45
No E coli, no asbestos. It's clean material for the most part. 01:33:49
The sediment pile. 01:33:55
Has equal life, but we can treat it. 01:33:57
We competed with chlorine if we want to, and we even talked to edema with. 01:33:59
All of the facts that we gather from the sediment. 01:34:03
From testing. 01:34:05
And they are OK if we just leave it alone. 01:34:06
Ecoli dice in the absence of oxygen and. 01:34:10
If we leave it alone, they would be OK with it to leave that where it's at. 01:34:13
OK, it is uh. 01:34:17
Team of debris removal, like a sentiment, requires extensive. 01:34:19
Documentation. 01:34:23
And so. 01:34:25
Those are the things that drove us to do these things. 01:34:26
The sediment pile. 01:34:29
We would like to leave them where they're at. There's two piles out there. 01:34:30
OK, one the October storm pile, one the September storm pile, they're on a lot that's owned by the county. 01:34:33
It is a multi acre lot but. 01:34:40
Floodway goes a floodplain go through the middle. 01:34:43
And so we only have a portion of that lot that we can use for. 01:34:46
Like a material you are, if you will. 01:34:51
If you look at the aerial. 01:34:53
Going through the history of Ariel for that lot, you'll see. 01:34:56
Once Upon a time it had big rocks in it like RIP rap. 01:35:00
Then the RIP rap disappear and then they have more. 01:35:02
More gravel material and that disappeared. 01:35:05
So that lot is big enough. 01:35:07
To that we can put. 01:35:09
Either sediment. Future sediment. 01:35:11
Or the road yards if we instruct them on start from the back. 01:35:14
And come to the front. 01:35:18
They can use that as a material yard. 01:35:19
They can. They can use it as appropriate for the county to use. 01:35:21
And we could even fill it all up. 01:35:26
In a future storm, I put sediment in there and know that we're going to put it in there. Clean sediment. 01:35:27
Not anything with household debris, because then you invite the. 01:35:33
The notion of it having asbestos, but anything that's clean or with. 01:35:36
Small retro Pate of debris. 01:35:40
Could end up in that yard in a future storm. 01:35:41
But we can continue to use it over time, so the idea is to leave alone. 01:35:44
And just leave it there and continue to use that particular lot as the material regard. 01:35:49
The other item is Counter Pitt. Well, we're not. 01:35:55
Bring in any more material to counterfeit. 01:35:57
If I spend a half $1,000,000 to restore it. 01:36:01
The way that FEMA requires. We already have an agreement with the good neighbor. 01:36:04
For service was just satisfied the agreement that we have with the. 01:36:09
With the Forest Service and that is. 01:36:12
Level it off and resee it. 01:36:14
That's one acre lot to reseed A1 acre lot. You're talking about ten $20,000. 01:36:16
Our local share is more than that. 01:36:22
And what we thought through the Forest Service and they're OK with us. 01:36:25
Doing that, not putting. 01:36:28
The Russell Gulch material in there, which we have talked to them about. 01:36:30
But instead to allow a road yard. 01:36:33
Where they're in the area, if they clean out a washer or low water crossing, they can pick at the counter. 01:36:35
And over time, when we finally fill up, Helner. 01:36:40
Then we can level it off and reseed it at the. 01:36:43
Time. And the Forest Service was receptive to that idea. We haven't. 01:36:46
I'll put that on a piece of paper, but they were receptive to that. 01:36:50
So these projects basically found an alternate solution. 01:36:54
And the ultimate solution is we're going to. 01:36:58
Continue to use counterfeit as. 01:37:00
As a place to take material. 01:37:02
The set of my files are going to are going to reside in that material yard. 01:37:04
Instead of spending $1,000,000 on that. 01:37:08
And Russell goats sediment is going to be repurposed and they come off the FEMA list. 01:37:11
OK. So from FEMA. 01:37:15
We talk about the. 01:37:18
$2.4 million. 01:37:20
In total for the project. 01:37:22
I'm sorry, in the female slide we talked about $2.4 million, the same number. 01:37:24
$2.4 million for that project that I talked about that we would do. 01:37:30
And that takes us to. 01:37:34
One slide that wraps everything up. 01:37:35
OK, all across. 01:37:37
And so if you look across NRCS. 01:37:39
There's a green arrow that says the county share is $8.7 million. 01:37:43
And we would need we need near term. 01:37:47
Cash flow of $8.7 million. 01:37:51
At a minimum. 01:37:54
Now we need to be. 01:37:55
Responsive with our invoices, we get an invoice. We need to take it to NRCS quickly. 01:37:56
So that NRCS can reimburse us, so that we don't have two or three months of invoices that we're funding. 01:38:01
We need to be. We need to move quickly on the invoicing side. 01:38:06
The FEMA BEMA project, you see the blue arrow? 01:38:10
Instead of going to our share. 01:38:12
It goes through. 01:38:14
The total cost for FEMA? 01:38:15
Because we don't know when they're going to pay us. 01:38:17
OK. And so near term we need $2.4 million? 01:38:20
Because we don't know if they're going to pay us this year or next year. 01:38:24
So we need, we need $2.4 million. 01:38:27
Some of which. 01:38:29
We would get back from them. 01:38:31
But we don't know when we're going to get that back. 01:38:33
OK. And the last line is other professional in engineering services? 01:38:36
There's there's. 01:38:42
Some of it is and we have to do some engineering for. 01:38:43
When you Ranch Road or Belar Canyon or. 01:38:47
A little bit of. 01:38:50
Contingency in here. 01:38:51
My cost is in there somewhere. 01:38:53
But it's mostly contingency. 01:38:55
It we may need other things that we need to hire somebody to come do. 01:38:57
To make things happen. So I used $800,000. 01:39:01
So our. 01:39:04
The cash flow for the recovery projects that we see them today stand a little over $12 million. 01:39:05
Question. 01:39:14
The 800,000 is on top of. 01:39:17
The NRCS. 01:39:20
500,000. 01:39:22
Correct. 01:39:24
OK. 01:39:25
And if you asked me to tell you everything that's in that 800, that's why I said it's mostly contingency. 01:39:28
I can come up with like. 01:39:34
There's we've hired some other firm to help us. 01:39:36
For $50,000 to make sure that what we're doing for team like. 01:39:38
Is going to be acceptable. 01:39:42
And then there's my cost and. 01:39:45
It's it's a fraction of the 800,000. 01:39:47
So the $12 million? 01:39:50
Homer is basically what we're going to end up spinning. 01:39:52
For needing to come up with. 01:39:56
Accounting for all these projects. 01:39:57
FEMA edema included. 01:39:59
Correct that. 01:40:02
That's what we're, that's what we're putting on the table now, what you borrow. 01:40:03
Should be more because of the invoicing. 01:40:06
If we get an invoice from a vendor, we have to pay. 01:40:09
You submit it to NRCS and they have a very short time. 01:40:11
Payment period I think. 01:40:15
30 days, Nick. 01:40:16
So they pay us in 30 days, but if there's an error in our invoice we may end up with too much so. 01:40:17
I'll let finance determine how much they borrow. But yes, our expectation is that that's what the recovery cost is going to be for 01:40:23
the two storms. 01:40:27
Sounds better than 18,000,000. 01:40:36
Well, and Homero out of that 12. 01:40:41
Million we should receive back. 01:40:43
About 1.2 eventually. 01:40:47
That's correct. OK. 01:40:49
It's 1.8. 01:40:50
118. 01:40:52
Right. 01:40:56
All right, and again. 01:40:58
That's there's no contingency in there. 01:41:03
And but you saw that there was a high number actually for engineering costs or a number that's comparable to what we expect. 01:41:06
To spend on the engineering side that NRCS brought to the table. 01:41:12
It's 4 billion. 01:41:17
We just what we need. We may need to borrow more than that to make sure that. 01:41:19
And again, that's a financial. 01:41:23
Decisions on presenting recovery costs. 01:41:25
OK. So the next slide then I'm going to talk about the two FEMA projects. 01:41:28
On you and then I'm going to turn it over to Tom and Tom's probably going like this to make speed it up for me. 01:41:34
But Cooley Ranch Rd. is. 01:41:41
The next slide. 01:41:43
Could we go to the? 01:41:47
Slide, next slide, then we'll come back to this one. 01:41:48
Oh, I'm sorry. 01:41:52
So let's let's look at this one. It's the big picture. 01:41:54
Hoodie Ranch Rd. You see the damage? 01:41:57
On the left hand side, it's to the apron. 01:42:00
Concrete apron that was there. 01:42:02
And the apron was on the downstream side of the road. And what it does it? 01:42:05
It makes sure that the turbulence as the water is leading the road doesn't undercut into the pavement well. 01:42:10
The concrete up the. 01:42:17
Concrete and. 01:42:18
Haven, OK. 01:42:20
And then further on the South side of the crossing. 01:42:21
You see where the water's washed over the road and there it did have that turbulence and it ate and start to undercut. 01:42:25
The pavement so for a wide section of that low water crossing was damaged. 01:42:31
With the storm. 01:42:37
It was a it was a big storm. 01:42:38
And so. 01:42:46
This is an area where the crossing is at. 01:42:47
It's in Gripping Springs. 01:42:51
Movie Ranch Rd. is in the Dripping Springs area. 01:42:53
The large green arrow points to the concrete apron that you can't really see because it's the flip. 01:42:57
Plane is hiding it. 01:43:03
We're going to restore that concrete apron 220 feet. 01:43:05
By 25 feet. 01:43:11
White. 01:43:12
To put it back in place. 01:43:15
In addition to that, we're going to add another. 01:43:17
44. 01:43:20
Crossing on the South side. 01:43:23
With with the same kind of apron. So we're going to expand. 01:43:25
The low water crossing. 01:43:29
By an additional 40. 01:43:32
And then going further down where the small. 01:43:34
Green Arrows act. We're going to provide bank ocean. 01:43:37
Protection. 01:43:40
In the form of. 01:43:42
To that section where you saw that the pavement was. 01:43:44
Was being. 01:43:47
The reason for doing this is it's. 01:43:49
Single automobile access to about 35 homes. 01:43:53
The flip plane, as you can see, it's very white in this area. 01:43:58
You're actually looking where a detailed map ends. 01:44:03
And and and I. 01:44:07
Flood map with very little detail next to it. 01:44:08
This is FEMA doesn't study all the floodplains in detail. 01:44:11
You can see on the. 01:44:16
Right hand side. 01:44:18
That there is a flood weight delineation. 01:44:21
There was a berm, there was a berm up there. We looked at the berm. What to do with the berm? 01:44:24
The berm is in the middle of a floodway, essentially. 01:44:29
And if you go back in history. 01:44:32
Verbal history because we couldn't find anything in writing. There's no design or no board action. 01:44:37
This is stuff that happened in the mid 90s I think. 01:44:42
And the first thing that I heard is that. 01:44:45
Dripping Springs. 01:44:49
And pushed material to the side and that became a berm. 01:44:50
The berm is an earthen berm. There appears to be no design associated with it. It's material that was put on there. 01:44:55
The if. 01:45:01
It's on BLM land. 01:45:03
We think that we were to just make it back into an earthen. 01:45:07
The cost would be high. 01:45:12
Was we really wouldn't be able to put a berm in the middle of the flood weight? 01:45:15
It's actually the berm was put in there with the ordinance. 01:45:20
Already in place the floodplain ordinance. 01:45:25
That burn would require no certificate. 01:45:28
Communication if. 01:45:30
Really protected divert water. 01:45:32
So we're trying to figure out what does the berm do? 01:45:35
We believe it diverged water. 01:45:37
And keeps it to a narrower section of the road. 01:45:39
And may keep it away from the helicopter path, but it does that for small storms. 01:45:44
Because on a big storm, you're looking at the flood. 01:45:50
And actually the last storm. 01:45:53
Told us that that is the floodplain. 01:45:56
It ripped through that. 01:45:58
And we don't know if that had already been damaged for three-year storms. 01:46:01
We do know that after October. 01:46:04
Much of that berm had disappeared so. 01:46:07
At this point in time, we don't. We don't find. 01:46:09
We're too late to use NRCS funding. 01:46:12
And the fact that the berm would have to be put somewhere else. 01:46:16
I can't be there. 01:46:21
Is a mitigation. 01:46:22
Project from. 01:46:25
Point, and it's really not. 01:46:27
A public assistance project. 01:46:29
So we wouldn't be able to submit it for FEMA. 01:46:32
What the things that we do want to do, we want to go to the neighborhood and talk to them. 01:46:35
About how to protect their homes. Maybe they can put berms up there. 01:46:39
At the very edge of that floodway. 01:46:43
At the very. 01:46:45
Outer outer edges of the floodway. 01:46:47
The water is not really very, very deep the floodway. 01:46:49
Feathers out to nothing at the edge. 01:46:52
And so there could be 2-3 inches, 6 inches of slip. 01:46:54
Depth on the lower half of. 01:46:58
Of the drawing here. 01:47:00
We'd like to explain that to the folks we'd like to. 01:47:02
Talk to them about the grading and drainage permit if they wanted to build berms around their home. 01:47:05
But at this point in time we don't have a good solution for the burn that was washed out. 01:47:11
We all, we all visit to the neighborhood. 01:47:19
To tell them what we're doing with the road. 01:47:21
We're going to actually the road gets improved. 01:47:23
Better than before. 01:47:26
And the road is important to protect the road. 01:47:28
And we need to go back and visit the folks about. 01:47:31
What they can do? 01:47:34
To protect their homes. 01:47:35
At this point. 01:47:36
And then go for there. 01:47:38
OK. 01:47:40
Foley Ranch Rd. 01:47:44
That one. And so we're with Kellner Canyon. 01:47:46
They're looking at crossing. 01:47:48
The Kelner Canyon. 01:47:52
Wouldn't be as an? 01:47:55
Gordon at Russell Rd. not got washed out. 01:47:56
When Russell Rd. got washed out. 01:47:59
And with no solution inside at this point time. 01:48:01
This is the only way to get in and out to the neighborhood. 01:48:05
But more importantly, it's the only way to get to. 01:48:08
Some of the transmission power. 01:48:13
That are up on signal peak. 01:48:15
That provide radio transmission for all. 01:48:17
First responders here in the Globe Miami area. 01:48:20
And provide. 01:48:23
An ability for Verizon, AT&T and others to get up through the towers and maintain their equipment. 01:48:25
So this this counter. 01:48:30
Cat Killer Canyon crossing is very important from that standpoint 1. 01:48:33
If we lose it. 01:48:37
People can't get in and out. 01:48:39
They basically cannot. Sometimes when we say it's a. 01:48:40
It's the only way in and out. We mean by an automobile that. 01:48:43
That's not 4 wheel drive or a normal pickup. 01:48:46
In this case, there's basically no way to get around. 01:48:49
OK. And so? 01:48:52
We want to restore. We want to. 01:48:55
Not necessarily restore the crossing, but we want to add wing walls and we want to lower it. We want to put a concrete crossing. 01:48:57
So that the water goes over the top. 01:49:04
But we at the same time we want to leave the. 01:49:06
The 236 inch culverts are in place. 01:49:09
And the 118 inch cover, we want to retain them and keep them there. 01:49:12
We just lower the crossing a bit and encourage the water to go over. 01:49:16
The top and contained within the width of the crossing. 01:49:19
To keep to keep you up. 01:49:23
Abundant erosion from taking place. 01:49:25
That's $200,000 solution. 01:49:28
Versus the. 01:49:32
Cooling retro, that was a $500,000 solution and you saw that on one of the slides. 01:49:34
So those are the FEMA projects that we know. 01:49:39
And we're going to get started with. 01:49:43
The debris, I want to call it the debris removal, the fleximet and the household debris. 01:49:46
Hopefully we can get a contract. 01:49:53
Into the into shape, we're incorporated. That's what we're thinking of using. 01:49:54
Into their hands so they can get started. 01:50:00
And we will we have more time on the permanent projects that I just talked about. 01:50:02
Those are we have to like, think. 01:50:07
We're putting in for an extension that takes us into. 01:50:09
Next year, 2027. 01:50:13
They haven't approved the extension, but Dima suggested that we put one in, so we did. 01:50:16
Previously, they approved a suggestion for the emergency work. 01:50:21
In this case, we're asking them for to extend the time for Kellner Canyon and for. 01:50:26
Cooley Rd. 01:50:31
And we believe that they will do that. 01:50:32
And we believe we have time to. 01:50:34
Design and build these permanent things. 01:50:36
Going forward, but here. 01:50:40
Things will start with. 01:50:41
The debris removal of. 01:50:43
In in a couple of weeks. 01:50:44
It's hard. It's hard right now. 01:50:46
And with that, I'll turn it over to Tom is going to talk about. 01:50:50
All the things that. 01:50:54
Our NRCS. 01:50:56
OK. Any questions before I leave? 01:51:00
I am not. 01:51:05
Good morning, Mr. Supervisor. 01:51:09
So, umm. 01:51:11
Where are we at? What's different this time? 01:51:13
Well, I was here. 01:51:15
Last time when we had the. 01:51:17
Telegraph fire. 01:51:19
And then we had the storms that August. 01:51:20
And so a lot of things are different this time. It's again, we're still working within our CS and. 01:51:23
I know I've thrown out a lot of acronyms. We've done that, so let me explain. 01:51:29
So in our CS is Natural Resources Conservation Service, they're part of U.S. Department of Agriculture. 01:51:33
And we are under the EWP program, so that's the emergency watershed protection program. 01:51:39
You keep hearing the 220 days, that is. 01:51:46
The the limit on the EWP program is we have 220 days to get everything done. 01:51:49
So that clock has already started. It started back on the 16th. 01:51:55
And that's really the only. 01:51:59
Limit. There's no dollar limit, so we. 01:52:01
Got a substantial amount of money is. 01:52:03
Is we've been talking about. 01:52:06
27 million. 01:52:08
U.S. dollars. 01:52:09
We also got. 01:52:10
Some technical assistance. 01:52:12
Over $4 million. 01:52:14
So that $500,000 that we keep talking about that we've already given the J4. 01:52:16
As soon as the agreement is. 01:52:22
Finalize within RCS, we'll stop that 500,000. 01:52:24
We won't charge anymore to that. We may have a little bit leftover. 01:52:28
And then we can start using those technical assistance funds that NRCS gave us the. 01:52:32
Just over 4 million, almost 4.1 million. 01:52:38
And there's no match on that. 01:52:41
That's just technical assistance funds. 01:52:42
For us to use, it's not a lump sum, you know, we submit invoices. 01:52:45
As we get Jay Fuller. 01:52:49
And Tiffany construction now that we're. 01:52:52
We have them on board. 01:52:54
So we'll be able to. 01:52:56
Their charges for design services will come out of that. 01:52:58
$4.1 million, so there won't be any cost to the county on that. 01:53:02
So that's really good news. 01:53:05
And then? 01:53:07
So we're using the C mark. 01:53:09
Process construction manager at risk. I think the counties used it on a couple of other. 01:53:10
Projects. I heard we used it on the animal shelter. 01:53:16
And then we used it on the. 01:53:19
The building there that we built in Payson. 01:53:21
The Tell me, Martin. 01:53:25
A complex few years ago. 01:53:26
But construction manager at risk. 01:53:29
Is so we have a contract now with Tiffany Construction. 01:53:31
And we have a contract with Jay Fuller. They're working directly for us even though we're in design. 01:53:34
We have Tiffany Construction on board right now helping us through the design process. 01:53:39
So they're working. 01:53:44
Hand in hand with je full. 01:53:45
As we design these. 01:53:48
Projects. 01:53:49
So that really is. 01:53:50
Is helping this whole process. 01:53:51
So CMAR has been around for about. 01:53:53
40 years. 01:53:55
Construction manager at risk. It's. 01:53:57
Fairly new. 01:53:58
But in the public, for public agencies, it's only been around since about 2005, I think, Minnesota. 01:54:00
Was one of the first. 01:54:07
States to try the CMAR process but. 01:54:09
So here we are. We're going to. We've decided to use it. We went out and advertised. 01:54:12
We got Tiffany. 01:54:17
After the selection process was all done and they are CMAR contractors. 01:54:18
So we are actively. 01:54:22
In design right now. 01:54:24
With Tiffany and JE Fuller. 01:54:26
So let me go to the next slide. 01:54:29
How this works? 01:54:33
So you guys have heard all this? This is the. 01:54:38
Again, EWP emergency watershed protection projects. 01:54:41
So we had the flooding back in late September. 01:54:45
Early October. 01:54:47
We have been awarded the 26.5 million. 01:54:49
Through NRCS. 01:54:53
And let me explain. You brought this up earlier, Supervisor Christians and I think. 01:54:54
I can answer this a little bit better. 01:54:59
Where are we at? So we have not actually entered into a formal agreement. 01:55:01
Than RCS as of right now. 01:55:05
So if you remember back on the 16th, I got the e-mail from Nick. 01:55:07
Saying the funds have hit Arizona, It came from Washington. They hit Arizona. 01:55:11
That started the clock. 01:55:15
May, March 16. 01:55:17
Now, and I had, I sent you a few documents to sign, which you did and you sent them back. I got those back to Nick. 01:55:19
At NRCS. 01:55:25
So what we still have to do is the formal agreement. 01:55:27
And that's when I'll come back to you. 01:55:31
And say, OK, here's the formal agreement. It's been signed by the head of NRCS here in Arizona. 01:55:33
And we're ready for your signature. 01:55:39
Which Or we can take this full board? 01:55:41
But we're still under the. 01:55:44
Emergency declarations. I believe we can just have you sign. 01:55:46
No delays. 01:55:49
No way. No, absolutely not so. 01:55:50
That will actually start the formal agreement. 01:55:52
And we'll get the notice to proceed. 01:55:55
And what that does is. 01:55:58
As soon as we get that, we stop the $500,000. 01:56:00
Charges. 01:56:03
And we come in under. 01:56:04
Technical assistance with the 4.1 million. 01:56:06
And so the county won't. 01:56:09
Incur anymore. 01:56:12
Design cost. 01:56:13
So that's good news. 01:56:15
And So what else does it say construction to beginning in April? 01:56:17
That's what we're shooting for. 01:56:22
Right now, some big challenges. 01:56:24
We have to. 01:56:26
The agreement in place. 01:56:28
We have to get environmental clearances, which actually NRCS does the environmental. 01:56:30
Clearances for us. So that's underway. There's biological and there's Archie. 01:56:35
Character. So those are. 01:56:39
Underway right now. 01:56:41
But we hope to begin construction in April. 01:56:44
And we've got the five projects and I'll go over those here in just a bit. 01:56:46
OK. 01:56:50
So these, so I'm getting to the projects now and there's five of them. 01:56:53
And you guys have probably heard about him, but I'll, I'll cover him a little bit. 01:56:57
These slides are kind of all the same. 01:57:00
First one is Copper Hills. 01:57:03
We've got 4 locations that we're working at A2. 01:57:05
What we call minor locations and two major locations. 01:57:08
Where we saw a lot of damage. 01:57:12
And so we completed our 60%. 01:57:15
Or we will complete 60%. 01:57:18
Design here in a few days. 01:57:20
We'll have 100% design in early May. 01:57:22
And you see the GE4 team up there. 01:57:26
The project is installing Shotcrete. A lot of RIP rap. 01:57:29
Some concrete drop structures and some asphalt repairs. 01:57:33
And feel free to ask any questions you guys have. 01:57:38
I'll just go through the project pretty quick. 01:57:41
Ice House Canyon at Albany Drive. 01:57:44
So what we're doing there is some bridge repair. 01:57:48
And it's really the approach and the downstream. 01:57:50
On each side of that bridge. 01:57:54
And we're trying to. 01:57:56
Protect it from future storms, basically. But again, you got the project, you got the JE 14. 01:57:59
And you can see their names up there and. 01:58:05
So we'll have 60% plans March 26. 01:58:08
Russell Gulch. 01:58:14
So this is one of the bigger ones. 01:58:15
We're looking at almost 3000 feet of. 01:58:17
Russell gulfs that we want to improve. 01:58:20
Clean it up, reshape it. Instead of fleximat, we're going to use concrete. 01:58:23
Or shotcrete line channel. 01:58:28
That will help improve the. 01:58:32
Flow through there. 01:58:34
Get the water through a little bit better, protect the hospital. 01:58:36
And that we think that would be a good project. 01:58:40
The flood wall project for the hospital. 01:58:45
We're administering that project for the hospital. 01:58:49
It's about 930 feet long of the flood wall. 01:58:52
And they already have their full set of plans, so we'll be. 01:58:56
Working. 01:59:00
With Tiffany. 01:59:01
To get that project going here as soon as possible. 01:59:02
6 shooter this is In my mind, this is. 01:59:09
The toughest 1 I think because. 01:59:12
It's got a lot of challenges with. 01:59:14
As we know. 01:59:19
When we tried to do this four years ago. 01:59:20
We had some opposition. 01:59:22
To cutting down a lot of those trees. 01:59:24
We don't know if we're going to have that again or not, but we are moving forward with getting drainage easements and temporary 01:59:27
construction easements and actually we're having pretty good success with that. So that's. 01:59:32
I'm pretty optimistic that things will go better for us this time. 01:59:38
On that project. 01:59:41
So this is kind of a preliminary schedule that Tiffany put together. 01:59:47
So what we're another thing that we're doing differently this time? 01:59:51
We're going to be requesting updated schedules like every week we want to schedule. Where are we at? 01:59:55
Let's take a three-week look ahead to see where we're at. 02:00:02
Are we going to? 02:00:06
Finish when we need to. 02:00:06
And so first thing I want to point out is that red. 02:00:08
Vertical line over there, it's right around July 4th. 02:00:13
And even though the 220 days. 02:00:17
Ends in October. 02:00:20
We want to be basically. 02:00:21
Done by July 4th before the monsoon starts. We need to get, especially if we're down in the channel. 02:00:23
Like 6 Shooter and Russell Gulch, Copper Hill. 02:00:30
We need to be. 02:00:34
Have this substantial amount of work done and be out. 02:00:35
Before that July 4th date. 02:00:39
And here and So what you're seeing here is they've kind of listed the. 02:00:42
The projects. 02:00:45
The activities and then. 02:00:47
Start date so we're looking at. 02:00:49
Around April 13th and. 02:00:52
So the light green is just the. 02:00:54
Five day work week. 02:00:56
The Gray is on Saturday and Sunday for each week. 02:00:58
Tiffany is already committed to working five days a week. 02:01:03
Seven days a week if necessary. 02:01:07
So to meet. 02:01:09
All these deadlines and that's. 02:01:10
So we're going to be talking about these at our weekly meetings every week about. 02:01:12
Are we gonna meet these deadlines? 02:01:16
So that's something else we're doing that's different. 02:01:17
I did hear that. 02:01:21
Just recently, San Carlos was approved for NRCS EWP funds. 02:01:23
And I believe Miami has now approved and gloves. 02:01:29
So they will have the opportunity if they. 02:01:34
If they do decide, San Carlos won't but. 02:01:37
Miami and Globe. 02:01:40
If they want to piggyback on our. 02:01:41
Seem our contract they can do so. 02:01:43
And Tiffany, if we've talked to Tiffany, there were already. 02:01:45
Thinking about that and they said, yeah, we can manage all these projects and still meet all the deadlines. 02:01:49
And get everything done. 02:01:54
So next steps. 02:02:01
Moving forward with design. 02:02:03
We got to coordinate with the CMAR which are. 02:02:06
Tiffany, which we're doing. 02:02:09
There may be some value engineering as we move along. 02:02:11
Especially as we get into construction, if we can do things a little better. 02:02:14
A little less expensive and speed things up. We'll do that. 02:02:18
Construction should begin in April and as I mentioned, we want to be out of those washes budget. 02:02:22
And so I'll be happy to answer your questions. 02:02:31
OK. 02:02:34
Tell me what CMAR stands for again. Construction manager risk. 02:02:36
Construction Manager. 02:02:42
Construction manager at risk. 02:02:43
At risk? At risk, yes. 02:02:45
So it kind of puts the burden on the contractor they. 02:02:47
They tell us how they're going to get this project done, how they're going to stay within budgets. 02:02:50
For each project, they'll give us a guaranteed maximum price. 02:02:55
We'll bring that back to you guys. 02:02:59
And say this is. 02:03:01
For Russell Gulch. 02:03:02
Here's their guaranteed maximum price. 02:03:04
That means there shouldn't be any change orders, there shouldn't be any cost overruns. This is what. 02:03:06
Contractor says they can do it for. 02:03:11
So we feel they'll be able to manage the entirety of. 02:03:14
All the projects. 02:03:17
Yeah, OK. 02:03:18
What else we have? 02:03:23
I'm good. Thank you, Tom. 02:03:24
So project management will be up to the contractor. 02:03:28
So project management is, yeah. 02:03:33
We expecting the. 02:03:35
Step up and do a lot of the project management. 02:03:37
They're gonna run if they don't. 02:03:39
Well, we'll be there as well. It's it's a team effort. Jade Fuller will be there. We'll be there. 02:03:41
Tiffany will be there. 02:03:46
Tiffany's done these CMAR projects up in Coconino County, city of Flagstaff. We got eight people responsible, but who's 02:03:47
responsible? 02:03:51
Well, I guess I'm the. 02:03:55
I'm the most responsible. 02:03:56
OK, yeah, I'm just questioning with a lot of projects going hard and fast. 02:03:58
Who's making sure the T's are crossed? That would be. 02:04:03
You know, I'm the county engineer. 02:04:06
OK, it's my job to make sure these projects. 02:04:08
Get done for the county. 02:04:11
OK. I appreciate that and. 02:04:13
And and I know that we're fast moving. We've got a lot of things going, we've got a lot of planning done, we've got a lot of 02:04:14
engineering. 02:04:18
Do we have easements for these projects? 02:04:22
We have. 02:04:25
So we were in. 02:04:26
66 shooter last week. 02:04:28
We had some verbal easements. 02:04:30
We should have our. 02:04:33
A firm on board this week that will actually get our drainage easements. 02:04:35
And Steve Williams has been working on temporary construction easements. So the answer is yes, we will have the. 02:04:40
Unless the people say no. 02:04:47
Unless the people say no, they say no, then, well, I know that Then all the engineering and all of this and we got all of this 02:04:49
busyness. 02:04:53
Was was for nothing? Well, we can still do sections, let's say. 02:04:57
One person says no. 02:05:01
I don't want you to cut my trees down. 02:05:02
We'll skip that section. OK, let's focus on what we can do. 02:05:05
Because it's divided up into sections. 02:05:08
OK, Yeah. 02:05:11
We've just been there before and we've been there not getting anything done because we didn't have ease. 02:05:12
And so I, you know, I, I appreciate. 02:05:16
All of this good news, but unless we have even an, ain't none of it going to happen. 02:05:20
Not on 6 shooters and and so. 02:05:24
That's just like I said. 02:05:27
I was I'm curious a management and. 02:05:29
Right. They all came back and said no easements. 02:05:38
6 shooter is OK so. 02:05:41
OK, so. 02:05:44
I mean, have we talked to Steve? Do we have? 02:05:45
Do we? When? When will we know? 02:05:47
About easements. So he's been talking. I think he's talked to every homeowner. 02:05:50
OK, we don't have anything in writing. 02:05:54
We don't have anything in writing. 02:05:56
OK. So we have a deadline to have something in writing being that we've got a start date of our construction. Well, I have that 02:05:58
firm on board this week. 02:06:02
And there I told them we want. 02:06:06
Drainage easements. That's a harder witness to drainage easement. 02:06:08
Because it requires more paperwork, it's got to be notarized and. 02:06:11
The temporary construction easements are pretty simple. 02:06:16
But yeah, we're going to start on those this week. 02:06:20
OK, Yeah. 02:06:24
It's a major for me. 02:06:26
OK. Thank you. 02:06:28
OK, Tom. Thank you, Romero. 02:06:32
Christine got a lot of challenges, a lot of people here. 02:06:35
So, umm. 02:06:38
Let's let's proceed, get this done and move through this. 02:06:42
And make it happen. So thank you very much for all that. 02:06:47
All right. If there's nothing else, we're going to move on to call to the public. Is there anyone here in? 02:06:51
Globe that wishes to speak to the Board of Supervisors. 02:06:55
How are we doing over there, Cassandra? 02:06:59
No one. 02:07:03
50 people and. 02:07:05
Lisa, I can't really see you very well, but. 02:07:06
Is there anyone in Payson? 02:07:10
Councillor, thank you for that. 02:07:13
All right, we'll move on to Item 4, which is our report. 02:07:15
Mr. Menlove. 02:07:19
Mr. Chairman. 02:07:21
Had conversations recently with the Arizona Commerce Authority. 02:07:22
If you recall. 02:07:26
Talked about five years ago, the Arizona Commerce Authority. 02:07:28
Brought to us Opportunity Zones. 02:07:31
Certain zones within that are low. 02:07:34
Our financial area, lower financial areas of the county. 02:07:37
And these opportunities zones are to be able to give tax credits and those things to poor development. 02:07:41
Hotels, houses and and different types of things. 02:07:47
I don't know that, the Arizona Commerce Authority put. 02:07:50
As much effort as they would have liked to have seen. And so. 02:07:54
Revitalizing the Opportunity Zones. 02:07:57
Which are particularly in the southern portion of the county. 02:07:59
This area. 02:08:02
And some. 02:08:04
So they are going to have a Sherry has. 02:08:06
A list of. 02:08:09
Roughly 30 to 40 potential. 02:08:10
People that would be interested in Opportunity Zones are going to have a meeting to reintroduce Opportunity Zones. 02:08:13
Next week they're going to Commerce Authority. 02:08:18
Is putting on a having a discussion. 02:08:21
That's a 2 day discussion of Opportunity Zones and what exactly they can do. 02:08:24
Different funding Financing opportunities through Opportunity zones. 02:08:28
I've specifically been invited to attend that to. 02:08:32
Gather more information and look at the possibilities and opportunities we have for Opportunities Zones. 02:08:37
Here in this portion of the Canon, so I'll be attending that with the Arizona Commerce Authority. 02:08:42
Next week. 02:08:47
For two days. 02:08:48
That's it, Mr. Chair. 02:08:50
Thank you for that, Supervisor Humphrey. 02:08:51
Yeah, On something like that, could we have a work session on it down the road to get more information of the information that you 02:08:54
receive? 02:08:58
So that we can share it with our constituents. 02:09:02
Anyway, attended a small. 02:09:06
Form on the 18th it was. 02:09:09
It was so. 02:09:11
Nice and and we the the mill was very good and. 02:09:12
That's one only sponsored so. 02:09:16
Anyway, hold a project team meeting with. 02:09:19
Public Works tomorrow afternoon. 02:09:22
Attended a meeting of. 02:09:24
To review the. 02:09:26
Proposed FEMA floodplain maps on the seven. 02:09:28
Well, with with. 02:09:32
The with the Flood team and. 02:09:34
And that was on the 17th. 02:09:38
And that's about all I have. 02:09:40
Well, thank you, supervisor. 02:09:43
Thank you, Mr. Chair. So last week. 02:09:46
I attended your northern Hilly County Fire me. 02:09:49
Which looked like was a good turn out. 02:09:52
I don't know how many people. 02:09:54
Actually were there, but. 02:09:56
Quite a few, you know, we're. 02:09:57
About normal I'll. 02:10:00
Melissa was at 59 Or was it? 02:10:02
More than that. 02:10:05
60 that's a good turn out is a roomful anyway. 02:10:07
After that I went on to Phoenix to the eco media down there. It was mostly. 02:10:10
Discussions about the. 02:10:15
Mexican wolf with a guy from Game and Fish, Jim DeVos. 02:10:17
Down there. 02:10:22
Had a lengthy discussion with him over all this. 02:10:24
And about the numbers. 02:10:27
What he feels like going forward as far as down listing versus delisting and and whatnot, so. 02:10:29
So that ended up being a good meeting. 02:10:37
From there we had small counties and. 02:10:40
I don't know you were on. 02:10:42
Zoom. 02:10:44
Yeah, and TM, you were there. 02:10:45
Person. So it was a good, good turn out and I want to thank Kathy and Sherry for coming down and helping put that together too and 02:10:47
cleaning up. 02:10:51
That was a good thing. 02:10:55
And then the next morning had CSA board meeting. 02:10:57
Was there, which was a good turn out as well. 02:11:00
Oh, I didn't realize I was supposed to the. 02:11:03
Small caucus deal, but anyway, we got through. 02:11:06
Then on Saturday, last Saturday, I was in Alamogordo, NM. 02:11:10
For coalition of counties. 02:11:13
And uh. 02:11:15
At this meeting, we actually switched chairs. 02:11:16
The lady from New Mexico came off and Paul David from Graham County went on. 02:11:20
As chair of. 02:11:25
And went over some other. 02:11:27
Oh, agendas that basically Howard Hutchinson has taken to DC. 02:11:30
With him this week. 02:11:34
And it has a lot of meetings up there. 02:11:36
And other than that? 02:11:38
That's it. 02:11:40
OK. Thank you. 02:11:41
I have been attending. 02:11:43
Meetings Alexis Sussdorf, who's a. 02:11:46
What do you call the? 02:11:53
Water guru. Yeah, she's a water guru, but she's, umm. 02:11:56
Like a lobbyist for the. 02:11:59
Legislature and. 02:12:01
In Arizona. 02:12:02
And she? 02:12:04
Put together a water group and I and I listen in on it. 02:12:05
And there's a lot of different. 02:12:09
Political. 02:12:11
Approaches to how to solve water. 02:12:12
Which it shouldn't be political. 02:12:15
But it is. 02:12:17
And so right now there seems to be a big. 02:12:21
Debate push over transferring of water. 02:12:24
The transfer of water from significant basins throughout. 02:12:27
Sort of the northeast part of. 02:12:32
Arizona into the Phoenix Valley. 02:12:34
And these agreements go back several decades and so. 02:12:37
The issue is that we've reached a point where. 02:12:42
We're no longer in what's called safe yield. 02:12:45
And that's really where we should be. 02:12:47
Safe yield means we don't do anymore. We don't. 02:12:50
Use. 02:12:53
What? Uh. 02:12:55
Can safely be replenished. 02:12:56
Well, I think. 02:12:58
We're kind of way past that. So we're in this kind of an emergency mentality. 02:12:59
Of course, our concern. 02:13:04
And SRP. 02:13:08
Is probably the most significant. 02:13:10
Concern when it comes to the transfer of water because they could. 02:13:14
Perhaps come into you county? 02:13:17
And start pumping groundwater. 02:13:19
And putting it into their system. 02:13:22
Now that. 02:13:24
That could really create problems for people that have wealth. 02:13:26
Like significant problems and there's no. 02:13:30
Legal. 02:13:32
The problem with doing that? 02:13:36
Drive someone's. 02:13:38
Well, up so. 02:13:39
Those are concerns. Water is something the state handles. It's not what we do. 02:13:40
And so it's rather concerning to sit back and say, well, I can't know much about that. 02:13:46
So anyway, there's lots of different opinions and ideas on how to fix that problem. 02:13:50
If you have a good idea, let me know. 02:13:55
Because no one seems to know. 02:13:59
The pre fire season meeting was good as usual. 02:14:01
Was very well attended. 02:14:04
Lots of different agencies and it was really. 02:14:06
Beneficial, I think. 02:14:10
It's just a solid way of. 02:14:11
All the different agencies getting together. 02:14:13
Before our our season really gets intense. 02:14:15
And reporting on what's coming. 02:14:18
How to fix it? How to? 02:14:21
Prepare for it. 02:14:23
And the prediction is that. 02:14:24
Without too much surprise, is going to be drier and warmer. 02:14:26
This year. 02:14:31
Or drier and warmer. 02:14:32
There are more significant fuel loads such as grass. 02:14:34
And things and so. 02:14:38
It is umm. 02:14:40
More dangerous than usual, Perhaps this year, that doesn't mean. 02:14:43
It will burn. 02:14:47
But the potential is always there for that. 02:14:48
So we need to prepare. 02:14:51
That it doesn't get super bad. 02:14:54
And I did meet with Jeff and Christine about FEMA. 02:14:56
And the maps very interesting my district. 02:15:00
Seems like because I think you're presented by district. 02:15:03
And my district presents. 02:15:07
Fairly positive. 02:15:09
On the. 02:15:11
Claiming that some properties. 02:15:13
Were positively affected with. 02:15:16
Not as many negatively affected. 02:15:19
Which is good. 02:15:21
And over the weekend, we had another drowning at Fossil Creek. 02:15:22
That makes 10. 02:15:28
There's no fatalities over the last few years. 02:15:30
And this person was at the lower. 02:15:34
And apparently was jumping. 02:15:37
Bumping in and and gone into trouble somehow and then come back out. 02:15:39
So Tunnel Ren search and rescue went. 02:15:43
And pulled him out, got him out. 02:15:46
And I I did call. 02:15:49
Ranger for the Payson District. 02:15:52
Find out how we were doing as far as improving the Trail Bob Bear Trail which is to the upper falls. 02:15:54
And we're right on. 02:16:01
The edge of making that happen. So I'm really excited. 02:16:03
Been pounding on that for five years and it looks like we're just. 02:16:07
Almost really at. 02:16:10
The finish line. So that's really good. 02:16:12
Be a happy day when I can report we have the clearance to do that. 02:16:15
And so and also wanted to. 02:16:18
Report. 02:16:21
A happy, devastating day for Melissa. She. 02:16:23
Turned 29 again yesterday. 02:16:27
And so wish her a happy birthday. 02:16:30
I don't know how many times she's been 29, but. 02:16:33
Anyway. 02:16:35
That's where most, most everybody stays so. 02:16:37
That's good. 02:16:41
Melissa And with that, I have nothing. 02:16:42
I got one more thing. Thank you for mentioning water SO. 02:16:45
Between the ECO meetings. Arizona collision. 02:16:48
The county's meetings. 02:16:51
Data centers are coming up. 02:16:53
Consistently. 02:16:55
And the big reason there is for the amount of water that they take. 02:16:56
And the fact that they pretty much walk over the counties to get them built so. 02:17:01
So that's out there. 02:17:05
Yeah, you're gonna be hearing more and more about those. 02:17:06
And a lot of counties. 02:17:09
Are trying to brace themselves for what they're going to do. 02:17:11
As far as accepting them or not and Jeff, thank you for doing the. 02:17:14
Floodplain stuff, those maps, that's good. 02:17:18
So that's all I got. 02:17:21
Thank you. One more thing. Yes, Sir. 02:17:23
Bill 1067 that was carried by Deputy Rogers on flight. 02:17:26
I've been working on it for a long time. Anyway, it made it. 02:17:31
Through the Senate, in the House, it was not going to be heard. But. 02:17:35
Doing some work with our lobbyists and everybody. 02:17:38
It is going to be heard. 02:17:42
As Wednesday. 02:17:46
And I got with him and asked if they wanted me to. 02:17:47
Testify. They said they didn't. 02:17:49
Think it would be necessary? I think Michael Driscoll is gonna. 02:17:51
Go down and testify on that so. 02:17:54
It's still alive, they're making some changes to it, but we may still end up with. 02:17:57
A legislative. 02:18:02
Bill for blight. 02:18:04
Projects and. 02:18:06
So any wonderful? Yeah. 02:18:08
Mr. Menlo. 02:18:09
I'll just add that with the data centers, that is a big issue with county managers in our discussions. 02:18:13
Again, this this. 02:18:18
We could go Friday. 02:18:20
Had an extensive discussion about data centers and. 02:18:21
There are some counties in Arizona that they have. 02:18:24
Ordinances. 02:18:27
Apply and so that you're prepared whenever they come. 02:18:28
So we'll be looking to. 02:18:31
To develop. 02:18:33
Ordinances in the county through community development. 02:18:34
Related to data centers, which includes water and power and oil. 02:18:37
All that related. 02:18:40
To data center so. 02:18:41
We'll be that'll be coming up. 02:18:43
More discussions in the future. 02:18:45
Thank you. Yeah, as we. 02:18:49
Continue to live. 02:18:51
Technology is changing, needs are changing, society changes, so we need to be able to address all that so. 02:18:53
Thank you for the meeting today. We are adjourned. Thanks. 02:19:00