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1.CALL TO ORDER - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - INVOCATION
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2. PRESENTATIONS: A. Presentation by the Town of Payson Related to Annual Funding for the Beeline Bus Transit System. (James Menlove/Julie Leonard)
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3. REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS: O. Information/Discussion/Action to review all bids submitted for Invitation for Bids No.162025 - Law Enforcement Shotguns and Accessories and award a contract to the lowest, most responsive and responsible bidder, Botach Inc., for a term of April,26, through June,26, for a maximum, not-to-exceed amount of $117,949.55. (Sarah White)
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A. Information/Discussion/Action to adopt Resolution No.-04-06 approving the issuance by The Industrial Development Authority of the County of Gila, Arizona, of its tax-exempt and/or taxable Revenue and Refunding Bonds (Cobre Valley Regional Medical Center Project), Series26, in an aggregate principal amount not to exceed $50,000,000. (Brandon Caywood)
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B. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Economic Development Agreement No.26-0251 between Gila County and the Tonto Basin Chamber of Commerce (TBCC) in the amount of $5,000 to assist with the operation and advertising campaigns of the TBCC, which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public. (Maryn Belling/Christa Lombardo)
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C. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Economic Development Agreement No.26-0258 between Gila County and Payson Pro Rodeo Committee, Inc., in the amount of $20,000 for costs related to promoting the Gary Hardt Memorial Rodeo and the World’s Oldest Continuous Rodeo, which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public. (Stephen Christensen)
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D. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Economic Development Agreement No.26-0245 between Gila County and the George Belvado Jr. Memorial Sports Association in the amount of $5,000 that will be used to support the Annual Memorial Day Baseball Tournament, which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public. (Woody Cline)
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E. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Economic Development Agreement No.26-0240 between Gila County and Arizona Alpine Trail, Inc., in the amount of $2,000 to assist in the creation of the4-mile Arizona Alpine Trail, which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public. (Tim Humphrey)
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F. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Economic Development Agreement No.26-0246 between Gila County and Pinal Mountain Foundation for Higher Education in the amount of $1,000 to assist in awarding scholarships to deserving students in Gila County, which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public. (Tim Humphrey)
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G. Information/Discussion/Action to approve or deny a Petition for Redemption of Exemption Waiver from Vicki Martin petitioning to have the individual tax exemption on parcel2-38-218A that is deemed waived by A.R.S. §-11153(A) redeemed for tax year26. (Sherra Kissee)
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H. Information/Discussion/Action to approve or deny a Petition for Redemption of Exemption Waiver from William Bolt Jr. petitioning to have the individual tax exemption for parcel4-49-007B that is deemed waived by A.R.S. §-11153(A) redeemed for tax year26. (Sherra Kissee)
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I. Information/Discussion/Action to approve or deny a Petition for Redemption of Exemption Waiver from William J Barkley petitioning to have the individual tax exemption for parcel4-31-005C that is deemed waived by A.R.S. §-11153(A) redeemed for tax year26. (Sherra Kissee)
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J. Information/Discussion/Action to approve or deny a Petition for Redemption of Exemption Waiver from Eva-Maria Olson petitioning to have the individual tax exemption for parcel4-20-095 that is deemed waived by A.R.S. §-11153(A) redeemed for tax year26. (Sherra Kissee)
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K. Information/Discussion/Action to approve or deny a Petition for Redemption of Exemption Waiver from Virginia Baer petitioning to have the individual tax exemption for parcel8-05-343 that is deemed waived by A.R.S. §-11153(A) redeemed for tax year26. (Sherra Kissee)
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L. Information/Discussion/Action to approve or deny a Petition for Redemption of Exemption Waiver from John Altman petitioning to have the individual tax exemption for parcel2-36-568 that is deemed waived by A.R.S. §-11153(A) redeemed for tax year26. (Sherra Kissee)
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M. Information/Discussion/Action to approve or deny a Petition for Redemption of Exemption Waiver from Brenda Sue Tabb-Martin petitioning to have the individual tax exemption for parcel4-07-005B that is deemed waived by A.R.S. §-11153(A) redeemed for tax year26. (Sherra Kissee)
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N. Information/Discussion/Action to authorize the advertisement of Request for Proposals No. GIL-RFP-2026-001 - DOE Weatherization and Other Repair/Rehabilitation Services to perform weatherization and rehabilitation services to Gila County. (Joshua Beck) O. Information/Discussion/Action to review all bids submitted for Invitation for Bids No.162025 - Law Enforcement Shotguns and Accessories and award a contract to the lowest, most responsive and responsible bidder, Botach Inc., for a term of April,26, through June,26, for a maximum, not-to-exceed amount of $117,949.55. (Sarah White)
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P. Information/Discussion/Action to certify the collection amounts for the Superior Court ($862,713.95), Payson Regional Justice Court ($708,590.63), and Globe Regional Justice Court ($789,247.22) for FY24-2025 and authorize the Chairman's signature on the certification form. (Maryn Belling)
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Q. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Amendment No.to Contract No. CTR063770 - Digitizing Permit and Parcel Files with Iron Mountain, Inc., for renewal of the InSight software subscription for the period of July25, through the June,26, in the amount of $11,931.84. (Randall Pluimer)
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R. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Amendment No.to the Intergovernmental Agreement with the Town of Payson to provide two (2)-yard roll-off bins and a one-time payment of $8,000 in support of the Annual Payson Household and Electronic Waste Day Event. (Matt Rencher)
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S. Information/Discussion/Action to adopt revised Merit System Rule- Announcements, Applications and Examinations, Recruitment and Selection Process to include Employment Preferences as set forth in A.R.S. §-492, to be in effect April,26. (Rick Husk)
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T. Information/Discussion/Action to approve Contract No. CTR059032-GC1 with Kary Environmental Services Inc. for Detention Center Dirt Removal and Fence Clearing, for the term of April,26, through March27, for a contract amount not to exceed $78,900. (Joseph Dickison)
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U. Information/Discussion/Action to authorize the advertisement of Request for Proposals No.012025 - Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat Historic Cabin Electrical Modernization. (Joseph Dickison)
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V. Information/Discussion/Action to authorize the advertisement of Request for Proposals No.032025 - Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat Generator Installation. (Joseph Dickison)
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4. CONSENT AGENDA ACTION ITEMS: (Any matter on the Consent Agenda will be removed from the Consent Agenda and discussed and voted upon as a regular agenda item upon the request of any member of the Board of Supervisors.) A. Approval of Amendment No.to Intergovernmental Agreement Contract No. CTR060581 to amend the price sheet to reflect additional activities for expending the remaining contract budget until June,26. B. Approval to appoint the following Democrat Party Precinct Committeemen: Judith Haywood - Payson #2 Precinct and Willie Jan Owen - Payson #8 Precinct. C. Approval of the monthly reports submitted by the Human Resources Department for March26. D. Authorization of the Chairman's signature on the Quit Claim Deed for the Clerk of the Board's over-the-counter sale of Assessor's tax parcel number1-09-072 to Amantha Anderson.
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5. CALL TO THE PUBLIC: A call to the public is held for public benefit to allow individuals to address the Board of Supervisors on any issue within the jurisdiction of the Board of Supervisors. Board members may not discuss items that are not specifically identified on the agenda. Therefore, pursuant to Arizona Revised Statute §-431.01(I), at the conclusion of an open call to the public, individual members of the Board of Supervisors may respond to criticism made by those who have addressed the Board, may ask staff to review a matter or may ask that a matter be put on a future agenda for further discussion and decision at a future date.
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6. SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS: At any time during this meeting pursuant to A.R.S. §-431.02(K), members of the Board of Supervisors and the County Manager may present a brief summary of current events. No action may be taken on the information presented.
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7. REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S): Members of the Board of Supervisors may request for future agenda item(s) and/or reports to be presented at an upcoming meeting. The Board of Supervisors may not propose, discuss, deliberate, or take legal action on a request for a future agenda item unless the specific matter is properly noticed for legal action. Subject to the discretion of the Chairman, the item may be included on a future regular or work session agenda.
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8. WORK SESSION ITEMS: A. Information/Discussion Public Safety Personnel Retirement System Unfunded Actuarial Accrued Liability Discussion - Fund2 Gila County Sheriff's Office. (Maryn Belling/Clark Partridge) IF SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS ARE NEEDED, PLEASE CONTACT THE RECEPTIONIST AT (928)5-3231 AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE TO ARRANGE THE ACCOMMODATIONS. FOR TTY, PLEASE DIAL1-1 TO REACH THE ARIZONA RELAY SERVICE AND ASK THE OPERATOR TO CONNECT YOU TO (928)5-3231. THE BOARD MAY VOTE TO HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF OBTAINING LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE BOARD’S ATTORNEY ON ANY MATTER LISTED ON THE AGENDA PURSUANT TO A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3). THE ORDER OR DELETION OF ANY ITEM ON THIS AGENDA IS SUBJECT TO MOADIFICATION AT THE MEETING.

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	We have reached the 10:00 hour.	00:00:00
	Welcome everyone.	00:00:03
	We'll get started here. I have.	00:00:04
	I've asked Macy to lead us in our pledge and after that?	00:00:07
	Our invitation is Pastor Lance.	00:00:11
	Marble which I think.	00:00:13
	Yes, Sir. All right. So right after the pledge.	00:00:15
	If you would stand.	00:00:18
	I pledge allegiance to the flag.	00:00:23
	Of the United States of America.	00:00:25
	And do the new coverage for which it stands.	00:00:27
	One nation under God.	00:00:31
	Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.	00:00:32
	OK.	00:00:36
	Can we pray?	00:00:41
	Father, thank you for a beautiful.	00:00:42
	Morning in Hilton County.	00:00:45
	Thank you for many blessings.	00:00:47
	Provide to us the opportunities that you grant us.	00:00:50
	We thank you this morning for.	00:00:54
	The opportunity for the supervisors to meet to use their.	00:00:56
	Gotta do an abilities.	00:01:00
	And to contemplate, to make wise decisions.	00:01:02
	We pray, Father, that you would.	00:01:05
	That be with them in those decisions.	00:01:08
	They would be.	00:01:10
	That benefit the most people in our county.	00:01:12
	That would.	00:01:15
	Also Father.	00:01:16
	Feet within your will.	00:01:18
	And give them discernment.	00:01:20
	Wisdom in this meeting works through your Sunday break.	00:01:22
	Ma'am, thank you.	00:01:24
	Seated.	00:01:27
	All right. Thank you.	00:01:29
	Great job.	00:01:32
	Well, this morning we're going to start off.	00:01:37
	The presentation.	00:01:39
	Item 2A is a presentation by the town of Payson.	00:01:41
	Related to annual funding.	00:01:46
	For the Beeline bus transit.	00:01:47
	System, uh.	00:01:49
	And we have James Menlove and Julie Leonard.	00:01:51
	Hi, good morning.	00:01:57
	All right, well.	00:02:05
	Thank you for having us and.	00:02:07
	Decided to talk about the Beeline bus if you'd come through.	00:02:09
	Payson or Star Valley, you probably see it going around town throughout the day.	00:02:12
	So.	00:02:21
	The Town of Peason began operating the Beeline bus in January of 2023.	00:02:22
	In August of last year, we were able to apply for an additional bus to replace our aging buses and.	00:02:29
	Fleet. So we recently paid for that bus and expect a delivery of a.	00:02:38
	US December or January of this year.	00:02:44
	And that is a grant through ADOT.	00:02:48
	And the town picks.	00:02:51
	Up the 23,000 press is picked up by a dot.	00:02:53
	And for that?	00:02:57
	New bus, so of course.	00:02:59
	Adding a new bus always helps us with.	00:03:01
	Paying for all the repairs on our older buses.	00:03:04
	Eventually that.	00:03:07
	Definitely saves US money in the long run.	00:03:08
	We did submit our the ADOT grant for the 5311 just recently and that will be the new grant that takes.	00:03:13
	Starts in October of 2026 through September of 2028. The 5311 grant is the ADOT grant.	00:03:23
	That pays for the operations and admin of the buses.	00:03:31
	One of the successful things we've been doing for a couple of years.	00:03:37
	Is we have one free ride day a month, it gives people an opportunity to try out the bus.	00:03:42
	Check it out if they've never done it.	00:03:48
	Sometimes people have some apprehension about.	00:03:51
	Getting on a public bus and so that.	00:03:54
	Helps us. We did switch our days from Friday to Wednesday because it was suggested that that would be a good day by our.	00:03:57
	Transit Advisory Committee because it coincides with our.	00:04:05
	Discount at the grocery store.	00:04:08
	Town so.	00:04:11
	Our operations of the Beeline bus.	00:04:13
	Run from.	00:04:17
	6:00 AM.	00:04:18
	To 6:00 PM.	00:04:19
	Monday through Friday.	00:04:21
	We do have two routes in town.	00:04:23
	One, the blue route primarily just goes around Peason most of the day.	00:04:25
	And there are over 50 stops on that route.	00:04:32
	Our most popular stops by far are.	00:04:37
	The the stores, The Walmarts, The Home Depot, Home Depot, Walmart, Safeway bashes.	00:04:40
	All of those stops.	00:04:47
	Of course are very popular.	00:04:49
	As well as up by the hospital.	00:04:50
	Some of the doctor's offices in that.	00:04:53
	We got a ridership in that area too.	00:04:56
	Then on red rock.	00:04:59
	Is sorry not keeping up here.	00:05:01
	Our red route runs.	00:05:05
	Payson, but it also goes into Star Valley.	00:05:07
	Star Valley is actually one of our.	00:05:10
	Pretty popular.	00:05:12
	Routes. We have quite a few writers.	00:05:13
	Get him on it.	00:05:16
	Valley and go into Payson for the day.	00:05:17
	We even see on that route we frequently have some of the young.	00:05:21
	People that maybe live in Star Valley and.	00:05:25
	On their Fridays off or whatever want to get into Payson and.	00:05:27
	Be able to see their friends, go to the parks and that kind of stuff.	00:05:32
	And then the blue route also goes out to Nisa del Caballo, which is.	00:05:36
	The community out off Houston Mesa Rd.	00:05:42
	So we go out there a couple of.	00:05:45
	Times Day 2 to pick up those folks.	00:05:46
	Our staffing for the.	00:05:50
	Bus includes myself.	00:05:52
	That overseas kind of the daily operations and the grant management portion of it.	00:05:56
	We have a full time senior bus driver, a part-time senior bus driver.	00:06:01
	And six part-time bus drivers with.	00:06:06
	A substitute driver to jump in when we need some extra help or somebody takes a vacation day.	00:06:09
	Umm, probably one of the biggest highlights.	00:06:19
	For us has been just the increase in ridership.	00:06:21
	When I probably presented last, I thought maybe we were kind of topping off.	00:06:25
	Of our increase.	00:06:29
	But since we took over in 2023, we've seen 137% increase of bus riders.	00:06:31
	And then this year?	00:06:39
	Where again, I kind of thought we were going to top off a little bit.	00:06:40
	We actually in first quarter of this year are running.	00:06:44
	28% higher than what we were last year in this quarter.	00:06:47
	So one of my bus drivers had recently commented that.	00:06:51
	We really have like a regular ridership people that get on every.	00:06:56
	Work or whatever.	00:07:00
	These days so.	00:07:02
	And those increases?	00:07:04
	Even.	00:07:05
	Occurred before kind of the gas prices went up so participate that may even drive more to our ridership but.	00:07:06
	Our ridership is going strong.	00:07:14
	We ended last year.	00:07:16
	1374 riders.	00:07:19
	When we first took over and.	00:07:22
	When we first took over in 2022, they'd only had 39,000.	00:07:25
	Or 1300 writers so.	00:07:29
	Big increases there.	00:07:31
	I attribute a lot of our successful ridership to be some really great drivers.	00:07:34
	To do a good job.	00:07:39
	Just really provide really good customer service to our riders.	00:07:41
	Fastest big success for.	00:07:47
	Bus as well.	00:07:48
	Um.	00:07:51
	So some of the things that we have.	00:07:54
	Are working on moving forward with SO.	00:07:57
	Again, we just recently submitted for the new grant cycle.	00:08:00
	And in that new grant cycle, we have had some.	00:08:05
	Quests in the community for certain.	00:08:08
	Additions to the bus and so we.	00:08:12
	Move forward with that.	00:08:14
	Last year at some point we've had.	00:08:15
	The Apache Tano community asking if we could.	00:08:19
	Stop up at.	00:08:22
	The casino, the.	00:08:24
	School and fitness center and some other things that they have up there.	00:08:26
	Because it was not in our service area previously on our map.	00:08:31
	With ADOT they told us no.	00:08:36
	And they told us you'll need to include that into your next grant cycle.	00:08:38
	Of course, it's right on the education. You really don't even leave our.	00:08:43
	Community barely to get there right by the Event Center.	00:08:46
	So we think it's a really and A plus a lot of the staff that work up at the casino.	00:08:50
	Are from Payson Star Valley.	00:08:55
	That's where we see the most requests for ridership up there.	00:08:58
	Currently we stop at the Sawmill Theater and.	00:09:02
	They literally would have to walk up that.	00:09:05
	Hill for the rest of the way which?	00:09:07
	Isn't great if you're working in food service or whatever.	00:09:09
	Middle of summer, so.	00:09:13
	We have gotten we have included that and have support from the Apache Tanto community.	00:09:15
	And they are excited about that addition.	00:09:21
	So it doesn't really add a lot of miles to our routes. It'll really should be a good addition.	00:09:25
	We're we've also in the current the next grant cycle there are.	00:09:32
	There is the ability to ask for certain recreation kind of events, pace and holds a lot of events.	00:09:37
	Some of that area is very congested during those events.	00:09:43
	So we will be able to run some bus routes down to those events for drop off and make it a little bit easier.	00:09:47
	For residents, recreation is one of the priorities in the ADOT grant.	00:09:53
	That we can write for.	00:09:58
	In the past year, we've done some additional marketing through Facebook. There's a.	00:10:02
	Slide that has more of those details.	00:10:07
	If you have been in patient and you've seen one of our buses, it's.	00:10:10
	Much prettier now.	00:10:14
	It's not thought of as a.	00:10:16
	Church van going around. It's been wrapped.	00:10:18
	That was a partnership with our Payson Parks and Rec department.	00:10:22
	As well as our tourism part.	00:10:26
	Tourism Department.	00:10:28
	They paid to wrap that bus.	00:10:29
	And it's kind of a traveling billboard as it drives around town and has websites the information on it.	00:10:32
	And it looks a whole lot nicer.	00:10:39
	So, umm.	00:10:41
	We also.	00:10:43
	This has been several years ago, but.	00:10:45
	When the Senior Center was still running the.	00:10:48
	Transportation, umm.	00:10:51
	The they had applied for a Beeline bus improvement project which included.	00:10:52
	Street work on some of our routes as well as bus shelters.	00:10:58
	And that has been completed this year. That's eight new bus shelters.	00:11:03
	As well as worked on Easy St. McLean and Cool Ford.	00:11:07
	In certain areas.	00:11:12
	So those are, that is our bus that is.	00:11:14
	There kind of different sides different.	00:11:19
	Things on the bus.	00:11:22
	One of the parks and rec side and 1 is our tourism side.	00:11:24
	Then we have this.	00:11:30
	Some of the marketing that we did.	00:11:32
	Last year and we do attribute some of our increase in ridership to just better marketing and.	00:11:34
	Helping people understand.	00:11:40
	Many, several years ago.	00:11:42
	The premise because the Senior Center ran the bus and they did a great job, but people thought it was only for seniors.	00:11:45
	That wasn't the case.	00:11:52
	But it was just something that they didn't realize, so that I think we've overcome that.	00:11:53
	We did some specific marketing.	00:11:59
	To students.	00:12:01
	The school we partnered with the school to build to send out some.	00:12:03
	Flyers come May, so when the students were off in the summer.	00:12:07
	They could jump on the bus and get around town. That's junior high and high school students.	00:12:11
	That may not have transportation so.	00:12:17
	Just some of the marketing that we ran kind of a did you know series.	00:12:20
	That helping people to understand.	00:12:24
	The bus a little bit better.	00:12:27
	Knowing that, we get.	00:12:30
	Common questions are, are they wheelchair accessible?	00:12:31
	They are. They're all wheelchair accessible.	00:12:34
	Knowing kind of where they go, some of our highlights, so.	00:12:37
	Again, some of the.	00:12:40
	Marketing and then?	00:12:42
	Our flyer that we used, that we sent home with the families and the.	00:12:45
	With the school we will be.	00:12:51
	Partnering.	00:12:54
	A little more with the school come fall.	00:12:55
	They have had some audit findings that have asked them to reduce their transportation cost.	00:12:59
	There are a couple other towns in Arizona that do this. I know Yuma is one of them.	00:13:04
	So some of their secondary students will actually.	00:13:09
	The school will pay for their bus pass.	00:13:13
	And that the some of the in route.	00:13:16
	In town routes will be cut from the school district. They started this a couple years ago and then backtracked.	00:13:20
	And now they're having to go back there with.	00:13:26
	Some of the information that they've received so they will have the opportunity to get a bus pass and ride our.	00:13:28
	On public general buses.	00:13:36
	During for school as well.	00:13:38
	So, umm.	00:13:41
	Won't be a major change for us. Our buses generally go to most communities.	00:13:42
	So is their transportation director has looked at our buses.	00:13:46
	And bus routes.	00:13:49
	He is not really suggesting anything new.	00:13:51
	Just that they would get on the routes that are already existing around town and we do start at 6:00 AM so we can get.	00:13:53
	Students to school in a timely manner.	00:13:59
	And that hopefully will help some of our families that.	00:14:03
	Losing some of those in in town routes.	00:14:06
	Cause a big challenge for SO.	00:14:09
	Some of the other just notes that I wanted to add that I didn't.	00:14:14
	Having the presentation.	00:14:18
	We did do a survey last year. We do an annual survey.	00:14:20
	Of our writers.	00:14:24
	Some of the just kind of high points of that is that.	00:14:26
	70% of our writers.	00:14:30
	The bus is their sole transportation.	00:14:33
	Um, they use the bus for a multitude of reasons.	00:14:37
	Of course to get to work is one of them. We had 24% that use that bus regularly to get to work.	00:14:43
	Medical appointments, so 29% of our riders.	00:14:50
	Use the bus to get.	00:14:55
	Medical appointments around town.	00:14:57
	13% for shopping and 28% for leisure and.	00:15:00
	Is getting places.	00:15:04
	Our elderly and disabled. But we're finding also it's not just our elderly and disabled.	00:15:07
	Are 57% of our writers are actually under 65 so.	00:15:13
	It's a variety of ages that are using utilizing the bus at this point.	00:15:18
	And many of our about 43% of our riders ride the bus every week.	00:15:27
	And 97% of our writers.	00:15:34
	Said that they would recommend the bus to others and they have a lot of.	00:15:37
	Confidence in our bus.	00:15:41
	So, umm.	00:15:44
	We actually in the last year.	00:15:47
	We have brought down some of our costs, but it's kind of.	00:15:50
	Kind of an interesting way.	00:15:54
	It cost us about.	00:15:56
	Over 300 that little over 300,000 depending on the year to run our bus.	00:15:59
	The challenge is where we're seeing the increases.	00:16:04
	In cost for the bus are in.	00:16:08
	The personnel costs the fuel.	00:16:11
	Repairs those are.	00:16:15
	So in admin we get an 80%.	00:16:18
	Reimbursement rate.	00:16:21
	But in operating, we only get a 58%.	00:16:22
	Reimbursement rate and where our costs are going up are definitely.	00:16:26
	Those operating.	00:16:31
	So even though we actually had gone from in 2023, it cost us 330,000 in 2025 is 309,000.	00:16:34
	It's it's not apples to apples because of that reimbursement rate that ADOT gives you.	00:16:44
	Or the bus so.	00:16:50
	Even though our costs are going down.	00:16:52
	Really the.	00:16:54
	You know what we what it costs to run it is going up.	00:16:55
	So, umm.	00:16:58
	Our priority, we have cut a lot of our expenses, kind of cut anything actually. So our priority is.	00:17:00
	Paying for drivers.	00:17:05
	Fuel the repairs and that's our focus. We've had to cut back on some of the other.	00:17:07
	The.	00:17:13
	Request that we.	00:17:15
	To you guys for the 73,000.	00:17:17
	Is for the operations.	00:17:20
	That local share is covered by the town of Payson.	00:17:22
	Hilo County has been.	00:17:27
	Instrumental in that as well as Star Valley contributes as well.	00:17:29
	To that local share cost so.	00:17:32
	That is what we're here requesting today is that 73,000 for our Beeline bus.	00:17:35
	Operation and I'd be happy to answer any questions.	00:17:40
	Thank you, Julie.	00:17:43
	Yeah, I guess the question I have is.	00:17:45
	It sounds like you're doing a great job and.	00:17:48
	And you went from 3947 riders in 22?	00:17:50
	To 9374 riders.	00:17:54
	And 25.	00:17:57
	How many passengers does your bus hold?	00:17:58
	Our passengers hold.	00:18:02
	Our buses pulled 14 at a time.	00:18:03
	We've only had a few occasions where that's an issue.	00:18:07
	Not very often.	00:18:11
	Because it kind of spans different people ride at different times, sort of our.	00:18:14
	Some of our elderly that rely on it for shopping and things like that, they tend to ride midday and you have some of those that	00:18:19
	are employed or like the the school.	00:18:24
	Kids in my ride would be more likely to ride first thing in the morning and more.	00:18:28
	Later at night, so you kind of see different populations throughout the day on the bus. Yeah, just. It just seems like, you know,	00:18:33
	if you're going to start doing school and.	00:18:38
	Yeah, and get with the.	00:18:42
	You know the tribe and things of that nature that.	00:18:44
	Yeah, if you're gonna.	00:18:48
	You're going to have a lot more people in the future than you.	00:18:49
	Than you do now so.	00:18:53
	OK, that's all. Sounds like you're doing a great job.	00:18:55
	Thank you Clock.	00:18:59
	Thank you. You guys are the.	00:19:01
	Dog.	00:19:02
	Your numbers are really coming up and I would imagine once you start going to the.	00:19:03
	To the tribe up there, you're going to see another.	00:19:08
	Dramatic increase in numbers.	00:19:11
	Mr. Love, how?	00:19:13
	Haven't we been paying the 70?	00:19:15
	1000 from about the beginning.	00:19:17
	This chairman surrounded, Yes.	00:19:20
	We contribute 73,000 both to the copper.	00:19:22
	Mountain transit system here in town.	00:19:26
	Yeah, and 73,000 to the Beeline bus.	00:19:29
	And that's been in the same amount for.	00:19:32
	Several years.	00:19:34
	Are we reaching a point in time where maybe we need to evaluate that?	00:19:36
	And see if maybe somewhere along the way it.	00:19:40
	Can't throw in a few more dollars.	00:19:42
	Mr. Chairman, throughout the Klein, in all honesty, I would appreciate not doing that initiative.	00:19:44
	No, I'm not saying this year, I'm just saying.	00:19:49
	Along the way though.	00:19:52
	You know, I, I remember when, when that, when we.	00:19:54
	Well, when I first took office and this was a big discussion.	00:19:57
	Numbers weren't anywhere close.	00:20:02
	You guys were just kind of getting started.	00:20:04
	And we were a big.	00:20:06
	Player in all that too as well and so.	00:20:07
	But now I see where there there has been a huge need for it.	00:20:11
	And I totally see where you're coming from on your operation.	00:20:15
	That, that is, that is a big hit.	00:20:20
	And not only for this bus, but for the one here too, I'm sure so.	00:20:22
	Anyway, thank you, Julie.	00:20:27
	Yeah. Thank you, Julie.	00:20:29
	Could get a flatbed trailer.	00:20:32
	Put some hay on the back. Oh that.	00:20:34
	Yeah.	00:20:37
	People just jump on that so.	00:20:38
	All right. Well, with that, I'll call for a motion.	00:20:40
	You know there's no action on it.	00:20:42
	Got it. OK.	00:20:44
	Sorry.	00:20:46
	We're going to move right on. Sarah White, Denny.	00:20:47
	Requested to be moved forward. She's item 30.	00:20:50
	Are you still with us?	00:20:54
	There you are. Thank you.	00:20:55
	All right, so Item 30 we will deal with.	00:20:57
	Right now.	00:21:00
	And that is information discussion action to review all bids submitted for.	00:21:03
	Invitation for bid number 08162025.	00:21:08
	Law enforcement shotguns and accessories.	00:21:11
	And award a contract to the lowest, most responsive and responsible bidder.	00:21:14
	BOTAC Incorporated for term of April.	00:21:18
	2126 through June 30th 26 for maximum not to exceed the amount of 117,000.	00:21:22
	$949.55.	00:21:29
	Dara.	00:21:32
	The word and thank you for moving the item up. I appreciate.	00:21:36
	This is the.	00:21:39
	Last step in the process.	00:21:41
	For board approval in standardizing our shotgun project for the Healing County Sheriff's Office.	00:21:43
	We worked with Pioneer.	00:21:49
	To go through all of the steps, we had two bidders.	00:21:51
	And this is.	00:21:55
	A thing with both tack incorporated.	00:21:58
	Who after reviewed like the lowest most responsive?	00:22:00
	And responsible there.	00:22:03
	Thank you, Sarah.	00:22:08
	Spider Humphrey. I guess it doesn't matter, but what? What?	00:22:09
	Make or model of shotguns were they bidding on?	00:22:13
	So the Chair, Donnelly is the one that we awarded.	00:22:17
	The other one.	00:22:23
	That was.	00:22:24
	Beretta OK.	00:22:27
	Yeah, we are.	00:22:30
	According to the Nelly.	00:22:32
	OK. Yeah, just.	00:22:34
	It didn't matter, but I was just curious.	00:22:35
	Thank you.	00:22:38
	Advisor client.	00:22:40
	Sarah, I'm good. Thank you.	00:22:41
	Yeah, I'm good as well, so.	00:22:42
	And happy to move the item up. I guess you you got some.	00:22:44
	Other things you gotta go do. We appreciate that.	00:22:47
	So with that, I'll call for a motion on item 30.	00:22:50
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to award a contract to BOTAK and.	00:22:54
	Incorporated is presented.	00:22:58
	I'll second that motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	00:23:00
	Thank you, Sarah.	00:23:05
	OK. We're back now to Item 3A. We have Brandon.	00:23:09
	Today information discussion action to adopt resolution number 260406.	00:23:13
	Approving the issuance of the.	00:23:19
	Industrial Development Authority of the County of Hilah.	00:23:22
	Arizona, uh.	00:23:25
	Of its tax exempt or.	00:23:25
	Taxable revenue and refund bonds.	00:23:27
	The Cobra Valley Regional Medical Center Project Series 2026.	00:23:30
	In an aggregate.	00:23:35
	Principal amount not to exceed.	00:23:37
	$50 million.	00:23:39
	You want to come up and talk to us, Brandon?	00:23:41
	Good morning. My name is Brandon Kaywood. I am an attorney with the law firm Nixon Peabody.	00:23:51
	And I am counsel to the.	00:23:59
	Heald A.	00:24:00
	That motion or not the motion, but that.	00:24:03
	You hit on what we were here to talk about and.	00:24:05
	At the conclusion of my remarks, I'm going to invite the.	00:24:09
	Idea presidents along with the folks from Cobra Valley to discuss their roles and the the project generally.	00:24:12
	And at the end of that or.	00:24:20
	Available for questions as well.	00:24:22
	The county's role and the reason that I'm here.	00:24:25
	Is twofold under Arizona law.	00:24:28
	The county Board of Supervisors whenever an industrial development authority determines to.	00:24:31
	Issue bonds.	00:24:37
	Before those bonds can be issued.	00:24:39
	They need to have approval to do so.	00:24:41
	From the county Board of Supervisors.	00:24:44
	In addition to that, there's a federal tax requirement.	00:24:46
	That a public hearing.	00:24:50
	Is held.	00:24:53
	To give the public the opportunity to um.	00:24:54
	Have comments on the project.	00:24:58
	Which is tied back to.	00:25:00
	Federal legislation called TEFRA.	00:25:01
	In 1982.	00:25:04
	That is any bond issuance in the country that.	00:25:06
	Has a financing structure such as this where money is being lent?	00:25:10
	To a 501-C3 will have something similar.	00:25:14
	Been to do public hearings and.	00:25:18
	As recently as November in Alabama and Georgia for projects happening there.	00:25:20
	The county's role in that, however, is to approve that the.	00:25:25
	Idea did that process.	00:25:29
	As well, just kind of the.	00:25:32
	Mechanics of that.	00:25:34
	Of that structure is the.	00:25:35
	IDEA checks all the boxes and then the.	00:25:37
	That the federal tax code requires that the.	00:25:41
	Governing body.	00:25:44
	Where the project is located gives the check mark that that's occurred.	00:25:46
	And so this resolution.	00:25:51
	Hence that state law requirement that the county.	00:25:52
	Supervisors approved this project.	00:25:55
	Along with the.	00:25:57
	That the federal tax requirements regarding that public hearing have taken place.	00:26:00
	So as part of your package today.	00:26:03
	The attachments include the.	00:26:05
	Idea's resolution.	00:26:08
	That the.	00:26:09
	That they that they resolve to.	00:26:11
	Have a bond issuance last Tuesday.	00:26:14
	So that you know, as part of your resolution, you know that that has already occurred.	00:26:16
	Along with.	00:26:21
	The hearing.	00:26:22
	Was posted.	00:26:24
	Timely on their website.	00:26:25
	The notice of.	00:26:28
	Post Timely on their website and was held last week.	00:26:29
	Telephonically.	00:26:32
	Me and.	00:26:33
	A report of that which is.	00:26:36
	I believe titled draft minutes and you guys pack it.	00:26:37
	Showed that nobody joined.	00:26:40
	For that. So there's no members of the public that joined to comment on that.	00:26:43
	As far as the as far as the idea goes.	00:26:50
	Shelby, do you want to come in doctor up the idea as well?	00:26:54
	Tell us your name again, Sir.	00:27:04
	My name is Shelby Borrowdale. I am the chair at the Gila County Idea.	00:27:05
	Good morning to you guys.	00:27:10
	Good morning.	00:27:11
	What I've got here is kind of a general mission statement of the idea, which I think is important to cover, and then I'll give	00:27:13
	kind of my take of that.	00:27:16
	The Gila County Industrial Development Authority.	00:27:21
	Is committed to expanding economic development and business enterprise.	00:27:25
	For Gila County, Arizona.	00:27:29
	The primary mission of the Ida.	00:27:31
	Is to secure and apply resources that.	00:27:33
	Remote retention expansion.	00:27:36
	Attraction of business and commercial enterprises in Gila County.	00:27:39
	And to expand employment opportunities.	00:27:43
	And I think that we're we're covering all of those bases here with.	00:27:45
	With this bond.	00:27:49
	I'm sure that you guys will have financial questions and and burden questions about response.	00:27:51
	For repayment and things like that.	00:27:55
	I think we've done our due diligence as the idea to make sure that we are not subject to those.	00:27:57
	Liabilities, yeah.	00:28:02
	And that what we're doing instead is.	00:28:04
	Providing.	00:28:06
	Cobra Valley Hospital, which I think is an asset to our community.	00:28:07
	The preferable resources they need to.	00:28:11
	Continue providing quality resources to our community.	00:28:14
	We do financially benefit from this as an idea.	00:28:18
	It's not the mission of the idea, obviously, but.	00:28:22
	What we gain from this, we put back into a revolving loan account.	00:28:26
	Small business loans.	00:28:30
	We've issued a small business loan.	00:28:31
	As recently as maybe?	00:28:34
	January, I think it was.	00:28:37
	This fear for a small.	00:28:39
	Trash cleanup business.	00:28:40
	And I think that overall this is a sound.	00:28:43
	For us as idea and even Gila County to say let's, let's.	00:28:46
	Our advantages for tax purposes.	00:28:51
	Get bonds from the market.	00:28:53
	Hospital abandoned the way they need to.	00:28:55
	And then use proceeds from that transaction to.	00:28:57
	Further, other small businesses.	00:29:00
	OK, anymore.	00:29:05
	That's all I got on it.	00:29:07
	OK, very good. Well.	00:29:09
	Find out if we have any questions for you.	00:29:11
	I don't have any questions. My hat's off to the idea, thank you very much. Because I can remember back years ago when they were	00:29:15
	doing.	00:29:18
	Huge bonds for the mines and construction in our local area.	00:29:22
	So it's great to see.	00:29:25
	The idea?	00:29:29
	Get the wheels back underneath them and start.	00:29:30
	Doing things for the community.	00:29:33
	And like helping with the hospital construction and things of that nature.	00:29:34
	It's you know you were developed.	00:29:39
	To help do things that we can't.	00:29:41
	And so it's great to see the idea doing things.	00:29:43
	To help our community.	00:29:47
	And.	00:29:50
	And help businesses do the things they need to do.	00:29:51
	Sure. Thank you.	00:29:53
	Supervisor clone.	00:29:55
	Shelby, I'm good.	00:29:56
	I think sounds like you guys have done your homework on this and you're good to go so.	00:29:58
	OK, good.	00:30:01
	I appreciate it. Would you guys have any questions for Brandon?	00:30:02
	No, I just believe it.	00:30:06
	Clarify a little so that I understand so the.	00:30:08
	We're just giving permission for the bond to be.	00:30:10
	To go through. That's what we're doing today. Think of yourselves as the gatekeepers. You're not not responsible for the debts or	00:30:14
	anything that they can't. Yeah.	00:30:18
	They can't issue it without your approval.	00:30:22
	And Sir, the the idea, if I remember right, there was some discussion that I heard that.	00:30:25
	Your funds were kind of depleting, getting lower and lower, and so it's going to help.	00:30:31
	It certainly will will help us continue our efforts.	00:30:36
	In other areas of the community.	00:30:39
	Yeah, OK.	00:30:41
	Good. So that's kind of a win.	00:30:42
	Yes, Sir.	00:30:45
	All right. And Mr. Chair, I also like to thank the hospital for working.	00:30:45
	With the idea, because I'm sure you had.	00:30:49
	Lots of choices in where to reach for for your funding so.	00:30:52
	I want to thank you very much for working with the idea.	00:30:57
	Well on this project too.	00:31:00
	To keep it in the community.	00:31:03
	Thank you very much.	00:31:05
	So we, we have some people. I, I know you.	00:31:07
	And from the hospital here too, so that's great.	00:31:10
	Any more questions?	00:31:13
	And I'll call for a motion.	00:31:14
	Yeah, Mr. Chair.	00:31:18
	I move to adopt resolution #26-04.	00:31:20
	Six. I'll second that motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	00:31:24
	Aye, aye. Thank you very much. Thank you, John.	00:31:29
	Thank you very much.	00:31:31
	All right. Our next item is item 3B, Information Discussion Action.	00:31:33
	Yes, Sir.	00:31:40
	The purpose of this was a public hearing.	00:31:42
	Well.	00:31:47
	OK.	00:31:50
	Were included that I.	00:31:59
	Find so that I, you know, open the public hearing.	00:32:00
	Thank you. With that clarification, Mr.	00:32:11
	OK. Thanks for.	00:32:13
	Keep it up straight, all right?	00:32:14
	3D.	00:32:15
	Information discussion action Approve Economic development agreement number 202602.	00:32:17
	By one between Hewlett County and the Toronto Basin Chamber of Commerce in the amount of $5000.	00:32:23
	To assist with the operation and advertising.	00:32:29
	Campaigns of the Tunnel Basin Chamber.	00:32:32
	Which the board is determined to be for the benefit of the public.	00:32:34
	And we have Marin Valley.	00:32:37
	We also have.	00:32:39
	Crystal Lombardo.	00:32:40
	Yes, good morning, Mr. Chair, Supervisor Humphrey, Supervisor Klein.	00:32:41
	It's my pleasure to introduce Crystal Lombardo as she will be.	00:32:45
	Providing you with an update on the Tonto Basin Chamber of Commerce.	00:32:48
	Its current achievements and its upcoming goals.	00:32:53
	Thank you.	00:32:56
	Good morning.	00:32:57
	Good morning.	00:32:59
	So we have.	00:33:01
	Lot of exciting things that.	00:33:03
	Umm, how do I do this?	00:33:06
	OK, there's our board.	00:33:13
	So.	00:33:15
	In 2025, May 1st, I became the.	00:33:17
	President for the chamber. Yeah, all of the faces that you see there.	00:33:21
	Are they work full time jobs? We're all volunteers.	00:33:26
	We do not have an executive director that is a paid position.	00:33:29
	So since May of last year we have.	00:33:33
	Brought in.	00:33:38
	75 new members to the Chamber.	00:33:39
	And 70 members, excuse me, we have 95 members.	00:33:42
	Now that our businesses of our Chamber.	00:33:46
	And at that time when I.	00:33:49
	Wrote this up that we didn't have as many but.	00:33:50
	We have more that have come on.	00:33:53
	We're a really small town, so to have 95 members.	00:33:54
	We're very active. We've launched A newsletter last year that.	00:33:59
	Goes out for the community, you know?	00:34:03
	And people really look forward to getting that newsletter.	00:34:05
	We have.	00:34:08
	Where we e-mail it out.	00:34:10
	We print it.	00:34:12
	So that it goes to the different places and people can pick them up.	00:34:13
	That some like the hard copy rather than just a.	00:34:16
	Digital, uh.	00:34:19
	Of it and.	00:34:20
	Again, our membership has.	00:34:22
	Grown to 75 new members.	00:34:23
	We updated our bylaws last year, so we're now a fiscal January to December rather than a.	00:34:26
	May to April, which was kind of confusing.	00:34:32
	So we had a pro radar members dues this year.	00:34:35
	Obviously not as much coming in.	00:34:38
	But uh.	00:34:40
	We're bringing in new members which have paid the full.	00:34:40
	Price of the dues.	00:34:43
	We started doing Breakfast Club in February and we have it every.	00:34:45
	Wednesday we started at 8:30 to 9:30 in the morning.	00:34:49
	730 seemed like a little too early for some folks in Tano.	00:34:53
	Remember, we're 70% of our community is retired.	00:34:56
	People.	00:35:00
	So the rest of us are still having to work.	00:35:01
	Bummer on that one, but.	00:35:05
	Our mixers, we had four mixers that we've already done this year and we try to spread it out to the different.	00:35:07
	Areas of the community.	00:35:12
	Locations, lunch and learns.	00:35:14
	So that's kind of starting to pick up.	00:35:16
	We started a community member of the month.	00:35:19
	Last year, last month we started it. We had a gentleman that has been cleaning the streets.	00:35:22
	Volunteer and wonderful just to do this for the community and not just kind of spark something in our brain.	00:35:28
	Look how many people do for the tunnel basin.	00:35:35
	And they don't get paid and they're not looking for recognition. But why not give them a little recognition?	00:35:38
	So we have a certificate that we hand out. We ask them to come to if it's a breakfast club or a mixer.	00:35:43
	So we can present it to them.	00:35:49
	Where the public's around.	00:35:51
	And then we gave them a $25.00 gift card to one of the restaurants so that we're.	00:35:52
	Obviously helping our businesses as well.	00:35:57
	We sponsored last year the food ministry, the library, the fire department and the school carnival.	00:36:01
	We did.	00:36:07
	Bring in.	00:36:08
	A large amount of money last year at our Wild West days and we felt that it was important to give that money back to.	00:36:09
	Community, uh.	00:36:15
	And so that's why we were able to sponsor the food ministry, the library and the.	00:36:16
	Fire Department.	00:36:21
	We Co hosted Wild West days this year.	00:36:23
	We that's our biggest fundraiser for the chamber.	00:36:26
	And the poker part of it is all the.	00:36:29
	That puts it on, but we are the silent auction, live auction.	00:36:33
	The raffles and those types of things.	00:36:36
	That will help us through the year to be able to make improvements on the Chamber.	00:36:39
	And do things for our businesses.	00:36:43
	Our goals for 2026.	00:36:48
	Bring in 20 new members.	00:36:50
	Right now we have 8 new members that have come on this.	00:36:51
	So I have to get.	00:36:54
	I've got 12 more to bring in.	00:36:57
	We've had ribbon cuttings for businesses. We've had four ribbon cuttings since May 1st.	00:36:59
	And that's been a really fun thing to do, to have.	00:37:04
	Community come out.	00:37:07
	And what why we're doing these ribbon cuttings?	00:37:09
	Welcome Basket.	00:37:13
	Program that we started, we were having our members.	00:37:15
	Donate they could do it. A discount on an item they can.	00:37:17
	Throw in a.	00:37:21
	Swag item and then when a person moves into town or basin, they get this welcome basket.	00:37:22
	With all the business directory, you know who's ever in.	00:37:27
	A member of the chamber, they're on there.	00:37:30
	We also have important.	00:37:32
	Phone numbers to have on there like your trash and your utilities and your water.	00:37:35
	So that they know who to contact.	00:37:39
	When they get those when they need those turned on.	00:37:41
	At the annual community event that I talked about was the Poker Ride the auction.	00:37:45
	And we're planning, we're going to be planning a BBQ at the Chamber because we've done a lot of improvements to it.	00:37:50
	So I'm looking forward to having.	00:37:56
	You know our community. Come to the Chamber and check out what we've done.	00:37:59
	We promote.	00:38:03
	Our members via social media newsletter.	00:38:05
	One of our goals is to try to hire a part-time person.	00:38:08
	Because we're all volunteers.	00:38:12
	So.	00:38:14
	If we are busy with our regular jobs, we're not getting.	00:38:15
	The job done for our members and.	00:38:19
	To me, that's really important to do. I probably work 10 or 15 hours part time.	00:38:21
	On my own, not getting paid because we've grown so much.	00:38:26
	And we don't want to grow and then not let.	00:38:30
	You know, we just.	00:38:32
	The business is hanging.	00:38:33
	We want to continue to help them to grow.	00:38:34
	Facility and technology improvement, some other things that we're using with the money that we were raised from Wild West days is.	00:38:39
	Our sliding glass doors. Luckily it's a double pane. We had a gardener out and he smashed.	00:38:46
	With weedy whack in one of the panes on the window.	00:38:51
	And it's a really old.	00:38:55
	Sliding glass door. So we decided to upgrade it.	00:38:57
	To get French doors.	00:39:00
	In that if it's feasible.	00:39:01
	Stop to see if what's.	00:39:03
	Pricing wise.	00:39:05
	New mini blinds to be installed to help with efficiency with.	00:39:07
	The AC, yes.	00:39:10
	You all know, we've all.	00:39:11
	Had increases from aths and.	00:39:13
	And SRP.	00:39:15
	Exterior lighting and cameras.	00:39:16
	We've had a lot more activity going on at the chamber. We do have a church service that is every Wednesday night.	00:39:18
	And in the winter, it's really dark.	00:39:25
	We have no lighting outside but the flag that's lit up, so that's one of the things we're getting done with the funds that we	00:39:27
	receive.	00:39:30
	Installing Internet in a TV.	00:39:34
	So that when church or whoever.	00:39:36
	The church right now, they.	00:39:38
	Old fashioned, umm uh.	00:39:40
	Projector that.	00:39:42
	Goes up on the screen. I'm trying to think of what that.	00:39:43
	You know the Yeah.	00:39:46
	The clear papers or whatever.	00:39:47
	Thank you.	00:39:50
	Goes and so they're probably used to doing that.	00:39:51
	But it's going to be a fun change for them to just be able to put in their USB.	00:39:54
	And then it's presented up on the TV screen.	00:39:58
	New kitchen refrigerator, a microwave and a coffee pot.	00:40:01
	With our breakfast clubs.	00:40:04
	We want to be able to.	00:40:06
	You know, make the coffee, obviously have a microwave if somebody wanted to do danishes.	00:40:08
	Our refrigerator. The freezer doesn't work, but the fridge does.	00:40:12
	So you know little.	00:40:15
	Upgrades that haven't been done for many years.	00:40:17
	Moving forward.	00:40:20
	Our goal is to continue growing membership and engagement.	00:40:23
	We are a board of.	00:40:26
	Of eight.	00:40:28
	And yes, it's a board, but we want to get the members involved to help with volunteering.	00:40:29
	To grow other businesses, not just having the board do all the work.	00:40:34
	Strengthen the community, obviously with the partnerships.	00:40:39
	Enhance facility and services.	00:40:42
	Support local businesses.	00:40:44
	And keep Tunnel Basin connected and thriving.	00:40:46
	We have a lot of new businesses that have come into Tonneau.	00:40:49
	And we want to see them grow and.	00:40:52
	You know we.	00:40:54
	It's our town is so split up that.	00:40:55
	Sometimes you don't realize.	00:40:58
	The old 188, there's businesses on that road.	00:40:59
	So to keep it out there with the public by.	00:41:03
	Putting it on Facebook.	00:41:07
	Putting it in the newsletter.	00:41:08
	There's so many different ways that people are now.	00:41:10
	Finding out about.	00:41:12
	Whatever's going on in your town.	00:41:14
	So it's not just a newsletter, it's going to be some like Facebook, some like Instagram, some do TikTok.	00:41:16
	So there's different ways that you can try to let your community know.	00:41:21
	What's going on? And I think this is my last page here, but we do appreciate this Grant.	00:41:26
	Our property taxes are $3000 alone and I just got some information that.	00:41:32
	That we might be able to.	00:41:37
	Eliminate that tax, which would be amazing.	00:41:39
	No, we don't eliminate that tax.	00:41:41
	We still need them, yeah.	00:41:43
	But it was just shocking that it was that much and our insurance.	00:41:45
	Is over 2000 as well.	00:41:48
	So this grant helps us a lot.	00:41:51
	With moving forward in.	00:41:53
	Growing our businesses in Tonto.	00:41:56
	So I do appreciate your time and if you have any questions for me, I'm happy to answer them.	00:41:58
	I think of Cristiano, Supervisor Humphrey.	00:42:03
	Yeah, I.	00:42:06
	I I have my monthly meetings at the chamber, so I've noticed the.	00:42:08
	Improvements that you do to the building and so.	00:42:12
	So that's a great thing. I guess the only question that I would have is with your community newsletter.	00:42:14
	Would you mind taking a picture with the Board of Supervisors to put in your newsletter?	00:42:20
	That we do.	00:42:25
	Sponsor you for the 5000.	00:42:26
	That would be amazing, yes. And because we put your, we do put the.	00:42:28
	Minutes in our newsletter.	00:42:32
	Sure.	00:42:34
	Yeah, no. And I, I from my meeting, I appreciate.	00:42:35
	We would love to do that. OK, Thank you. Yes, very much. That's all.	00:42:38
	OK. Thank you, Supervisor Clark.	00:42:42
	Christa, I've been in your building before and.	00:42:44
	In meetings in the past, you guys have a.	00:42:46
	Good little building there, good location and.	00:42:48
	It it's good, we can.	00:42:51
	Help support this SO.	00:42:53
	Another thing that you're doing.	00:42:54
	We appreciate that.	00:42:56
	And and we're trying to connect them actually have a meeting after this.	00:42:57
	Presentation today with the Globe.	00:43:02
	Executive Director.	00:43:04
	Just to kind of get ideas and connect with them.	00:43:05
	And also I've met with.	00:43:08
	Payson Chamber of Commerce.	00:43:10
	They have a new executive director that I will be contacting just to try to keep the towns where we're connecting.	00:43:13
	Yes.	00:43:20
	In Payson.	00:43:24
	Yeah, Angel's here.	00:43:25
	Shannon Shannon is the new executive director. I believe she's.	00:43:27
	Got a lot of energy so.	00:43:30
	I noticed driving by this morning there was a lot of cars there.	00:43:32
	Was there something going on at the chamber this morning? Yeah. So every Tuesday and Thursday, the women.	00:43:36
	The elderly women have their little.	00:43:42
	Exercise Group.	00:43:45
	Yeah, they do, and they do a great job. They love, you know, coming there.	00:43:46
	It sounds like you're not only the chamber, you're the Community Center.	00:43:50
	We really are and that's what my goal. I mean, I work a full time job, but I.	00:43:53
	I have a passion.	00:43:58
	For businesses.	00:43:59
	And growing them and that's.	00:44:01
	You know why I want to put those additional hours in for free volunteering? Because.	00:44:03
	It's so neat to see companies.	00:44:08
	Growing.	00:44:10
	Yes, in Tano.	00:44:11
	Yeah, that whole area is growing. So that's great. Thank you for that.	00:44:12
	Without, I'll call for motion then.	00:44:16
	Mr. Chair, I'll make a motion to approve the economic development.	00:44:20
	Agreement number.	00:44:23
	2026.	00:44:24
	0251.	00:44:26
	Between Gila County and the Tunnel Basin Chamber of Commerce.	00:44:29
	As presented, in which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public.	00:44:32
	Mr. Chair, I'll second that.	00:44:37
	They have a motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye aye.	00:44:38
	Thank you.	00:44:43
	Do you mind if we can get a picture? I was gonna say if we could get a picture.	00:44:44
	All right, let's get a picture.	00:44:48
	OK.	00:44:56
	OK, hope we can speed this up a little bit more.	00:45:08
	We've got a lot to do today. Next item is 3.	00:45:13
	C and information discussion action to approve economic.	00:45:16
	Open agreement number.	00:45:21
	2026-0258 it's between Hema County and the Payson Rodeo Committee.	00:45:23
	Incorporated in the amount of 20,000 for cost.	00:45:28
	Related to promoting the Gary Hart.	00:45:30
	Rodeo.	00:45:33
	Memorial Rodeo in the world's oldest continuous rodeo.	00:45:34
	Which the board is determined to be for the benefit of the public. Now I know my name is here, but it's not my item. It's a	00:45:37
	reoccurring item every year we're.	00:45:41
	It's just my office that submitted it.	00:45:45
	And we do have.	00:45:47
	A while with us, who is the?	00:45:49
	El Presidente of the.	00:45:52
	Rodeo Committee.	00:45:54
	Good morning, Dan.	00:45:56
	Good morning.	00:45:58
	Thank you.	00:46:00
	German important supervisors.	00:46:03
	Stop that song.	00:46:05
	For the state, first of all.	00:46:06
	And sponsorship of our.	00:46:13
	Development. Umm.	00:46:17
	Fun. And this year we're asking for the same amount.	00:46:20
	Which is $5000.	00:46:24
	Very Hard Memorial Rodeo and 15,000 for the world's oldest.	00:46:26
	Continuous rodeo and.	00:46:31
	And has to be applied to a.	00:46:33
	29,000.	00:46:35
	700 vague, emotional.	00:46:36
	Campaign targeting.	00:46:38
	Phoenix and Scottsdale to bring people up to Payson.	00:46:40
	The economic impact.	00:46:44
	From our Romeo.	00:46:47
	From 2023 or.	00:46:49
	Approximately 14,900.	00:46:52
	People. Umm.	00:46:55
	But 60% of the.	00:46:56
	Visitor be driving Vermont.	00:46:58
	And based on the Arizona.	00:47:01
	As the Tourism estimates, Steve ministers.	00:47:02
	Contribute over $2,000,000.	00:47:05
	In the local spending.	00:47:08
	Homage, fuel and dining.	00:47:09
	More as a 501-C395 that we invest all proceeds.	00:47:12
	Inhibiting our.	00:47:19
	45,000.	00:47:20
	Scholarships and terrible contributions.	00:47:21
	Veterans and health support groups.	00:47:24
	The recognition of the $20,000 of.	00:47:29
	Tamil county.	00:47:35
	Receive sponsorship packages.	00:47:36
	Both events would be total estimated value of 24,000.	00:47:38
	$400.	00:47:43
	With the total production cost of $350,000.	00:47:46
	Or contributes. Your contribution is vital.	00:47:50
	Maintaining these historic events and their.	00:47:53
	Positive impact on our Western heritage and local economy.	00:47:56
	Thanks for your time.	00:48:00
	Thank you, Dan. Supervisor Humphrey.	00:48:02
	I have no questions.	00:48:06
	Other than.	00:48:08
	We are. We are.	00:48:10
	Dividing this amount.	00:48:11
	Correct or no?	00:48:13
	This is an amount that comes from our economic development money that Mister Menlove made.	00:48:14
	OK.	00:48:19
	OK.	00:48:21
	No, but no questions on the rodeo. You guys do a great job.	00:48:22
	Glad to help.	00:48:26
	Yep, Thank you, Supervisor.	00:48:28
	So, Dan, thanks it's.	00:48:33
	Been a pleasure to help.	00:48:35
	Support this for all the years I've been here and you guys do an awesome job.	00:48:37
	It's a big weekend in patient. It's definitely you don't want to go patient.	00:48:41
	Don't like traffic so.	00:48:45
	Anyway, thank you for all you guys do.	00:48:47
	Yeah. Thank you, Dan.	00:48:50
	The rodeo committee is.	00:48:53
	Large, You have a lot of members. You do a tremendous amount of work.	00:48:56
	The.	00:49:00
	Benefit is.	00:49:02
	Awesome.	00:49:03
	The Western heritage part, the whole historical.	00:49:06
	Part is all.	00:49:10
	Very good and so.	00:49:12
	This grant.	00:49:15
	Is well worth.	00:49:16
	The return that.	00:49:18
	Is developed because of it, so we appreciate.	00:49:20
	Your committee it's.	00:49:23
	I think the largest.	00:49:24
	Really most productive committee we have in.	00:49:27
	That part of Gila County.	00:49:31
	Thank you very much.	00:49:33
	Thank you, Mr. Chairman.	00:49:36
	And so with that, I'll call for a motion on item 3.	00:49:38
	Monsieur moved to approve economic development.	00:49:42
	Agreement number 20260258.	00:49:45
	Between Helix.	00:49:49
	County and patient.	00:49:50
	Pro Rodeo Committee incorporated as presented.	00:49:52
	And which the Board?	00:49:55
	Has determined to be for the benefit of the public.	00:49:56
	I'll second that.	00:49:59
	Motion in a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	00:50:00
	Aye, aye. Thank you, Dan. Thanks for coming.	00:50:03
	Right, so item 3D is information discussion action.	00:50:07
	To approve an economic development agreement number 202602.	00:50:11
	4-5 between Hila County and the George Belvado Junior.	00:50:15
	A memorial sports association in the amount of.	00:50:19
	$5000 that was.	00:50:22
	Used to support the annual.	00:50:23
	Memorial Day baseball tournament.	00:50:25
	Which the board determined.	00:50:27
	To be for the benefit of the public, and this is Mr. Klein's item.	00:50:29
	Thank you, Mr. Chair. So.	00:50:32
	Ever since I've been in this seat.	00:50:34
	George Belvedau started this ballpark.	00:50:37
	Some years back anyway, he passed away and his brother Wilbur.	00:50:40
	Took it over.	00:50:44
	And I've worked with Wilbur now for.	00:50:45
	Basically nine years.	00:50:48
	On this and he's built that.	00:50:50
	Ballpark up.	00:50:51
	And has done an awesome job and every year I've.	00:50:53
	I've been there to help support him on the.	00:50:56
	On the tournaments and whatever else he's got going on there.	00:50:58
	It's a really nice place. It's one of the highlights of Saint Carlos down there, really.	00:51:01
	And matter of fact, I just had a discussion with.	00:51:05
	Chairman, about your day.	00:51:08
	And it's a real good addition to San Carlos, chairman of the tribe.	00:51:10
	Chairman of the tribe, yes.	00:51:14
	Yeah, not you.	00:51:16
	Let's clarify that real quick.	00:51:19
	So.	00:51:21
	Anyway, any questions I'd be happy.	00:51:22
	Sure. Thank you, supervisor, no question.	00:51:24
	OK. I don't have any questions and this is out of my constituents.	00:51:27
	All right. So with that, I'll call for motion.	00:51:31
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve economic development.	00:51:33
	Agreement number 2026.	00:51:37
	0245.	00:51:39
	Between Gila County and the George Belvidow Junior Memorial.	00:51:41
	Sports Association.	00:51:45
	As presented.	00:51:46
	In which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public.	00:51:47
	Mr. Gerald second, the motion in the second to approve those in favor say aye aye.	00:51:51
	IDOL 3 E is information discussion action to approve economic Development Agreement number 2026.	00:51:55
	Dash 0240 between Halo County and the Arizona Alpine Trail, Incorporated.	00:52:01
	It's in the amount of $2000 to assist in the creation of a 704 mile.	00:52:06
	Arizona Alpine Trail, which the board determined to be for the benefit of the public.	00:52:11
	Supervisor Humphrey.	00:52:15
	Yeah, we, you know, with.	00:52:16
	With the development of.	00:52:19
	The Discover Gila County.	00:52:21
	There's a lot of people come to use our trails and quads and everything else and so.	00:52:24
	It bring it helps bring a lot of people. And so this this trail, I think would be.	00:52:28
	A great benefit for the people that are here and like to.	00:52:34
	To recreate and hike.	00:52:38
	These trails.	00:52:40
	There's one taken off right there at Roosevelt Dam.	00:52:41
	And you can see that there's been a lot of work for.	00:52:44
	Spend to that for horses.	00:52:46
	Or people walking.	00:52:48
	Some different trail.	00:52:50
	And so anyway.	00:52:52
	That's what it is. I think it'll help.	00:52:54
	Create a lot more.	00:52:57
	Outdoor activity here.	00:52:59
	So any questions?	00:53:01
	Supervisor Klein.	00:53:03
	Tim, who maintains that thrill, Do you know?	00:53:04
	Volunteers.	00:53:07
	Maintain that trail.	00:53:08
	Yeah, I believe.	00:53:09
	Part of it that takes off the Roosevelt.	00:53:10
	On that particular trail.	00:53:13
	Fernando Shipley.	00:53:15
	He does X amount of miles and they have volunteers.	00:53:16
	Who enjoy hiking that keep the maintenance up in the brush down and things up.	00:53:20
	Trail. Oh, good deal.	00:53:23
	That's only question.	00:53:25
	Is saying.	00:53:27
	Trail.	00:53:29
	That's was is being promoted by gentlemen to create an ATV trail.	00:53:30
	Across.	00:53:37
	Arizona, uh.	00:53:38
	Could be.	00:53:40
	Could be, yes.	00:53:41
	I can't remember.	00:53:44
	I'm not sure. So anyway, I really don't have any questions with that, I'll call for motion.	00:53:45
	OK, I move to approve economic.	00:53:50
	Development agreement.	00:53:53
	20260240 between Hill County and Arizona Alpine.	00:53:55
	Trail, Incorporated, as presented, at which the Board is determined to be for the benefit of the public.	00:54:00
	I'll second that motion a second to approve. Those in favor say aye aye.	00:54:05
	Item 3F Information discussion actually approve another economic development agreement, number 2026 DASH.	00:54:10
	0246 between Gila County and Pinal Mountain Foundation for Higher Education in the amount of $1000.	00:54:16
	To assist in awarding scholarships to.	00:54:23
	Deserving students in Hila County.	00:54:25
	Which the board was determined to be for the benefit of the.	00:54:27
	How about supervisor hopefully?	00:54:30
	Yeah, again, I, you know, I don't mind giving them this much to help sponsor. They do a lot of fundraisers.	00:54:32
	Car shows and things of that nature.	00:54:39
	To be able to offer.	00:54:41
	Scholarships.	00:54:43
	Individuals, uh.	00:54:45
	And I feel anybody that gets scholarships and go to school.	00:54:46
	Will definitely help give back to our communities.	00:54:50
	So to me that's that's money well spent.	00:54:53
	For someone to help get an education.	00:54:57
	Thank you for doing that, Supervisor Humphrey.	00:55:00
	I'm sorry, Supervisor Klein. That's right.	00:55:03
	Thank you, Mr.	00:55:07
	No, I'm good. That's a good 'cause that's, that's good.	00:55:09
	OK. Thank you. I don't have any questions. So with that, I'll call for a motion.	00:55:12
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve economic development.	00:55:16
	Grant Development Agreement number 20260246.	00:55:19
	Between Gila County and Pinal Mountain Foundation for Higher Education.	00:55:25
	As presented in which the board.	00:55:29
	Determined to be for the benefit of the.	00:55:31
	I'll second that motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	00:55:34
	Aye.	00:55:38
	All right, great. Now getting to the Shara Cassie show.	00:55:40
	So just to let you know, Shira I talked with.	00:55:44
	With Charlotte this morning to see whether or not we could make this process any easier.	00:55:49
	So she's going to try and look into that.	00:55:55
	To see because after reading the same sentence over and over.	00:55:57
	OK, so anyway.	00:56:01
	She's going to look into that.	00:56:03
	See whether we can make this go because it's it looks like you're just going to keep coming back.	00:56:05
	I think so, yes. OK.	00:56:10
	All right, so item 3G information discussion actually approved or denied petition for redemption of exam.	00:56:12
	Favor from Vicki Martin petitioning to have the individual tax exemption.	00:56:17
	On partial 30238218.	00:56:22
	A which is deemed waived by the Arizona Revised Statute. Redeemed for tax year 2026.	00:56:25
	Thank you, Mr.	00:56:32
	Chair members of the board.	00:56:33
	One staff that I would like to read before I talk about Miss Martin.	00:56:35
	And based on some comments.	00:56:39
	Questions that came about in my last presentation.	00:56:41
	Of all of the organizational exemptions that we have in Hula County.	00:56:44
	61% of those are in southern Hula County.	00:56:49
	And of all the individual exemptions, we have 65%.	00:56:53
	Are in Southern.	00:56:57
	OK, now.	00:57:00
	As a reminder, property tax exemptions are governed by.	00:57:03
	The Arizona Revised Statute, Title 42.	00:57:07
	And applied by the assessor's office according to qualification.	00:57:10
	When we are in the.	00:57:14
	Annual application period from January 1 to March 1st we process.	00:57:15
	Those qualified applicants.	00:57:20
	And apply the exemptions that qualify for without pause.	00:57:22
	It's only when the applicant qualifies.	00:57:26
	Outside of the application period that statute dictates.	00:57:28
	We come before you guys.	00:57:32
	And present their application.	00:57:34
	So that you can backdate it.	00:57:37
	For the current year.	00:57:38
	OK, so your approval or denial today does not?	00:57:40
	Apply to the applicant being qualified.	00:57:44
	Applies to whether their qualification goes for this year.	00:57:47
	All qualifying taxpayers met an income cap of either $39,000.	00:57:51
	$39,865 if you don't have children.	00:57:56
	47,008.	00:57:59
	Do an all non veteran qualifying taxpayers met a property valuation cap of 36,454?	00:58:01
	OK. I know those were some of the questions last goer.	00:58:11
	OK, so.	00:58:14
	Under Arizona Revised Statute 42-111.	00:58:15
	One Vicky A Martin, qualifies for a partial property tax exemption as a widow.	00:58:19
	Miss Martin did not file her application prior to March 1st because she was unaware of the program.	00:58:26
	Her property is in.	00:58:31
	For primaries as value is 33,525.	00:58:33
	She would that would be reduced by the 4873 allowable exemption, taking further 28,000.	00:58:38
	652.	00:58:45
	And she would get a tax forgiveness of approximately 500.	00:58:47
	OK, question, Supervisor Humphrey.	00:58:52
	Yeah, I, I.	00:58:56
	I did pull up a lot of this.	00:58:57
	Through it and and.	00:58:59
	Some of it I understood, some of it I.	00:59:01
	I didn't because it refers to other things and.	00:59:03
	I could be there for days, but anyway.	00:59:06
	I guess what I'm wondering is last month you came with this. I mean, last meeting you came with us about 6.	00:59:08
	You're having about 6 now.	00:59:14
	How? How many people?	00:59:16
	I guess.	00:59:19
	Have qualified.	00:59:20
	That don't come to us that they did it.	00:59:21
	In the time frame that they were supposed to.	00:59:24
	A lot. I don't have OK, no, no, OK, a lot so.	00:59:28
	We're we're we're a county that lives on 3 1/2 percent of our tax base.	00:59:32
	Sure. And so a lot.	00:59:37
	Whether it's 1000, I mean, if, if we're getting into percentages.	00:59:39
	Of what our 3 1/2 percent is.	00:59:44
	Then I think we need to kind of look.	00:59:48
	At the allot.	00:59:51
	And the amount and maybe get with the county manager and and finance to see OK, here is our budget.	00:59:52
	Here's how many people.	01:00:00
	Qualified by state.	01:00:01
	Statutes.	01:00:04
	That that that received this.	01:00:05
	Tax break.	01:00:09
	OK, that's all through the state.	01:00:10
	OK, but but what is that going to do to our yearly budget if?	01:00:12
	I mean because.	01:00:16
	I've been here for 9 years and we.	01:00:17
	We just haven't done this and so people have qualified that didn't know they qualified.	01:00:20
	But now they do.	01:00:24
	And so, OK, that's all fine.	01:00:26
	But but.	01:00:28
	But what what concerns me is, OK, we've done 12. For how many thousands of dollars?	01:00:28
	In two meetings.	01:00:33
	How many people?	01:00:35
	In the last year.	01:00:37
	Qualified.	01:00:39
	That didn't come before the Board of Supervisors.	01:00:40
	That's gonna make.	01:00:43
	An impact or not an impact?	01:00:45
	In our yearly budget.	01:00:48
	And like you say, 61% one way and 65% the other way qualify.	01:00:51
	It's like, OK, if we're getting into that much volume.	01:00:57
	I mean I I.	01:01:01
	I guess I would like.	01:01:02
	If you be interested at some point in time.	01:01:03
	Of what's that going to impact?	01:01:06
	Our tax base when we live on 3 1/2 percent of our tax base.	01:01:09
	So anyway, that's not a question.	01:01:12
	That you can answer now.	01:01:15
	But it's something that I wanted to bring up.	01:01:17
	To just say, hey, you know what?	01:01:20
	What difference is this state statute?	01:01:22
	Going to make to us.	01:01:25
	With this many people qualifying because, I mean, we live.	01:01:28
	You know, a lot of our area is elderly people.	01:01:31
	And, and we have a lot of veterans that reside here as well.	01:01:35
	Which I'm grateful for them and it's all great, but.	01:01:39
	But I'm just, I'm just trying to kind of look ahead that all of a sudden.	01:01:42
	Here's what we've been getting in taxes in.	01:01:46
	We're not anymore.	01:01:48
	So anyway, Mr. Chair, if I, if I may.	01:01:50
	The supervisor.	01:01:53
	Should stop paper here. I do actually have those numbers. OK, good.	01:01:55
	So since the start.	01:02:00
	Of our exemptions of this number.	01:02:02
	Encompasses many years.	01:02:04
	We have.	01:02:06
	Just over 1000 individual exemptions.	01:02:07
	Since when?	01:02:10
	Since the inception of exemptions, I don't know that year.	01:02:11
	But it's multiple years.	01:02:15
	So over the multiple year span, we only have just over 1000.	01:02:17
	OK. But yeah, a lot of those have been recently.	01:02:22
	There's a little.	01:02:28
	Up cling on it because of the of the 100%.	01:02:30
	On the veterans?	01:02:34
	And on the second point that you made on the dollars?	01:02:36
	We're looking at anywhere between 3:00 and $600.00 of savings to the taxpayer. Sure.	01:02:39
	OK. Now that obviously that's not 100% exempted veteran because?	01:02:45
	They get the whole ball of laps.	01:02:49
	But for everyone else that gets an exemption is between 306.	01:02:51
	That the county would be losing.	01:02:55
	From or not the county, but.	01:02:58
	All the taxing authority.	01:03:00
	I would be losing.	01:03:02
	Right, Yeah, from our from our yeah, college to.	01:03:04
	Fire departments.	01:03:08
	Yeah.	01:03:10
	That don't anymore, which makes a big difference in realizone.	01:03:12
	OK, uh.	01:03:16
	That's asked and answered and.	01:03:17
	Trying to look ahead of him.	01:03:20
	OK, Good question. Thank you. You're welcome.	01:03:22
	Supervisor clone.	01:03:24
	So I.	01:03:27
	I honestly like it when these people qualify for this and we can give it to them.	01:03:30
	I do too, so.	01:03:33
	But Joe, I got a question for you if this isn't state statute.	01:03:34
	And people that actually qualify for this.	01:03:39
	Exemption. Uh.	01:03:41
	Redemption or exemption?	01:03:43
	Why do they give us a?	01:03:45
	The option of approving it or denying it.	01:03:46
	Members of the board.	01:03:53
	These folks that have missed the deadline.	01:03:56
	Then they're able to go to the assessors office and work with the assessor staff and then.	01:04:01
	The Board of Supervisors has discretion to grant.	01:04:06
	That OK, that way we're not.	01:04:10
	I got you now.	01:04:13
	But otherwise, those people would.	01:04:15
	Have they filed their their application time? They would have been granted the exemption that they're entitled to.	01:04:17
	With the reduction that they were.	01:04:23
	Entitled to OK, Thank you, Joe. I get that because of the way laws.	01:04:25
	The discretion moves to the board to grant or deny that relief.	01:04:29
	OK, correct. And if I may.	01:04:34
	This what we're doing.	01:04:37
	Here has been a part of statute.	01:04:38
	For a long time.	01:04:40
	My predecessors.	01:04:42
	I guess we're not aware of it.	01:04:43
	So that's why it may be.	01:04:44
	Here in my terms, the 1st that you're seeing all this.	01:04:46
	Because I am aware of it and so.	01:04:49
	I want to give those exemptions to people that are deserving of it.	01:04:51
	And and as Mr. Albo indicated.	01:04:55
	You're not approving or denying their exemption. They get that by statute.	01:05:00
	You're approving or denying the.	01:05:04
	Time of them, they get it.	01:05:05
	This year.	01:05:07
	Or next year.	01:05:08
	And then they get it forever.	01:05:10
	Right. No, I got it.	01:05:11
	Now I just I.	01:05:13
	Face that one part, right? Yeah.	01:05:14
	Missing the deadline, so no, that's good.	01:05:16
	I'm good, Mr. Chair.	01:05:20
	OK. Thank you, Shara. So.	01:05:21
	Anyway, Item 3G Vicki Martin.	01:05:24
	Is the particular person on this.	01:05:27
	So I'll call for most.	01:05:29
	Mr. Chair, I.	01:05:31
	Approve a petition.	01:05:33
	For redemption of exemption waiver.	01:05:35
	For Vicki Martin.	01:05:38
	For cashier 20.	01:05:39
	26.	01:05:41
	And I'll second that motion and a second to approve Those in favor say aye, aye.	01:05:43
	Item 3 H Information, Discussion Actually approval Denial Petition for redemption of the exemption waiver from William Bolt	01:05:48
	Junior.	01:05:51
	Petitioning to have the individual tax exemption for parcel number.	01:05:55
	3044.	01:05:58
	07 B which is being waived by.	01:06:00
	There's 1A revised statute.	01:06:03
	Reduce of the tax year 2026.	01:06:04
	Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the Board.	01:06:07
	William Bolt, junior qualifies as a widower.	01:06:09
	He was unaware of the program, which is why he didn't get it in on a timely fashion.	01:06:13
	This property is located in.	01:06:18
	Primary assessed value of 24,513.	01:06:21
	Last, the allowable exemption brings them down to 19640 and the savings of.	01:06:24
	$100.	01:06:30
	OK. Thank you, Supervisor Humphrey.	01:06:31
	No questions to provide a client good to go.	01:06:34
	All right.	01:06:36
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve a.	01:06:38
	Petition for redemption of redemption favor.	01:06:41
	From William Bolt, Junior Protect share, 2026.	01:06:44
	I'll second it. Motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	01:06:48
	Aye, aye.	01:06:52
	Item number three I Information, discussion, action to approve or deny A petition for redemption of exemption Waiver from William	01:06:53
	J Barclay. He's petitioning to have the individual tax exemption.	01:06:58
	Article #304.	01:07:03
	31005C.	01:07:05
	Which is deemed waived by the statute Redeemed for the tax year 2026.	01:07:07
	Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the Board.	01:07:11
	William J Barkley qualifies for a partial exemption as a Littler.	01:07:13
	He was very sick during the application timeframe, which is why he didn't make it in.	01:07:17
	His property is located in Payson.	01:07:22
	Assessed value at 21,292 savings.	01:07:24
	Available deducted from that bringing it down.	01:07:28
	And he'll have.	01:07:32
	A forgiveness amount of about $680.	01:07:34
	Yeah, the only question I have is I is.	01:07:40
	For a waiver for William J Barclay.	01:07:43
	And in my.	01:07:47
	In my paperwork it's moved to approve.	01:07:51
	A redemption for exemption waiver for Mary F Low.	01:07:55
	And and so.	01:07:59
	I I'm not sure if.	01:08:02
	If I'm doing if you look at I.	01:08:05
	That's what I got too.	01:08:08
	And so I'm not.	01:08:09
	Not sure.	01:08:10
	And I and I don't mind using.	01:08:13
	Of for William J Barclays name and that.	01:08:15
	But I don't.	01:08:19
	I exclude Mary F Low if that's.	01:08:20
	Tomorrow is this a type Is.	01:08:24
	OK. So if you could, any suggested motion would include William J.	01:08:26
	OK, not F low.	01:08:31
	OK, that's that's the only question I had. And so I'm.	01:08:33
	I'm good.	01:08:37
	OK, Supervisor Klein.	01:08:38
	No, I'm good.	01:08:40
	Hey, Cortana, Confirmation. OK, I move.	01:08:41
	To approve a petition of redemption.	01:08:44
	Of exemption.	01:08:47
	Waiver for William J.	01:08:48
	Orkley, or Tax year 20.	01:08:51
	Six. I'll second that motion in a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	01:08:54
	I very good on to Jay. Information, discussion, action, approval deny A petition for redemption.	01:08:59
	Of exemption waiver from Eva.	01:09:06
	Maria Olsen.	01:09:08
	Patricia to have the individual tax exemption for her parcel 30420.	01:09:10
	095 which is being waived by.	01:09:15
	The state statute.	01:09:18
	2026.	01:09:20
	Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the Board.	01:09:22
	Eva Maria G Olsen qualifies for a partial exemption as a widow.	01:09:24
	She was unaware of the program.	01:09:28
	Which is why she didn't file timely.	01:09:31
	For properties located in Page.	01:09:33
	Primary assessed value of $8911.00 Which?	01:09:35
	The exemption available exemption cuts that in half.	01:09:39
	And gives her a savings of approximately $600.	01:09:43
	OK, Supervisor Humphrey.	01:09:47
	Questions. Good.	01:09:49
	He said her assessed values 8000.	01:09:53
	Dollars 8900 so it brings it down to 4000.	01:09:55
	OK. All right. Thank you. I'll call for a motion.	01:10:00
	Michael, move to.	01:10:04
	Approve a petition for redemption of exemption waiver for Eva Marie Olson for tax year 2026.	01:10:06
	I'll second that motion in a second to approve. Those in favor say aye aye.	01:10:13
	Hey, information, discussion, action, approval, denial, petition for redemption of exemption, waiver from Virginia.	01:10:18
	There, that's just going to have the individual tax exemption for parcel 20805343.	01:10:24
	Is deemed waived by the ARS. Redeemed for tax year 2026.	01:10:32
	Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the Board.	01:10:36
	Virginia Bear.	01:10:38
	Qualifies for a partial exemption as a widow.	01:10:40
	She was waiting on her income tax return to be finalized, which is why she was not timely.	01:10:44
	Her property is located in Globe.	01:10:48
	For assessed value 13,105.	01:10:51
	Remove the allowable exemption from That takes it down to 8232 for a savings of approximately $500.	01:10:54
	Advisor, no questions. Advisor Clyde, no good.	01:11:02
	Right, without a call from motion.	01:11:06
	I move to approve.	01:11:08
	Proof Petition for.	01:11:10
	Redemption.	01:11:12
	Of exemption waiver.	01:11:13
	Or Virginia there.	01:11:15
	I'll second that for tax year 2026.	01:11:17
	Second motion and a second Those in favor say aye.	01:11:20
	Hi.	01:11:23
	Item L Information Discussion. Action to approve or deny A petition for redemption of exemption Waiver.	01:11:24
	From John Altman.	01:11:31
	Patricia didn't have the individual tax exemption for Parcel 302.	01:11:32
	36568.	01:11:36
	It's deemed to be waived by the ARS for tax year.	01:11:38
	2026.	01:11:41
	Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the Board.	01:11:43
	John Alterman qualifies for a fool.	01:11:45
	Property tax exemption as a 100% disabled veteran.	01:11:48
	He was waiting on necessary paperwork.	01:11:52
	Under the file.	01:11:54
	His property is located in Payson.	01:11:57
	The assessed value is 12,122, which is completely wiped out.	01:12:00
	And that gave him a tax forgiveness, but.	01:12:05
	Just under.	01:12:07
	On which 1500?	01:12:09
	1500 Supervisor Hunter.	01:12:11
	No question.	01:12:13
	Mr. Klein, I'm good.	01:12:14
	I think you'll call for motion.	01:12:16
	I'll make the motion to.	01:12:18
	Approve a petition.	01:12:19
	Exemption of exemption waiver from John Altman for tax year 2026.	01:12:21
	Our second motion and a second to approve those in favor say aye aye.	01:12:26
	Aye, last one, Shara.	01:12:31
	Item 3. M Information discussion action Approve or deny A petition for redemption of exemption.	01:12:32
	We were from Brenda Sue Tab.	01:12:37
	Martin petitioning to have the individual.	01:12:41
	Exemption for parcel #30407005B.	01:12:44
	And deemed waived by the ARS for tax year 2026.	01:12:49
	Thank you, Mr. Chair, Members of the.	01:12:54
	Board Brenda Sue Tab Martin qualifies for a partial exemption as a widow.	01:12:56
	She was unaware of the program, which is why she didn't timely file.	01:13:01
	Her property is located in Payson.	01:13:04
	She also has a property in Maricopa County, and part of the statute is that the assessed value of.	01:13:06
	All properties that they own.	01:13:12
	Is taken into consideration to be under the.	01:13:14
	A statutory cap.	01:13:17
	She is still under the cap even with both of her properties that she owns.	01:13:19
	So, for Gila County's purposes, her assessed value is 10,355.	01:13:24
	Remove the allowable exemption. That leaves her 5482.	01:13:30
	Gives her a tax forgiveness of just over.	01:13:34
	$500.	01:13:37
	$500 Thank you. Better, Humphrey.	01:13:38
	No questions.	01:13:42
	Supervisor Klein.	01:13:43
	Hey, Motion.	01:13:45
	Here I move the petition of redemption of exemption waiver.	01:13:48
	Or Brenda.	01:13:52
	To have my.	01:13:54
	For.	01:13:56
	26.	01:13:58
	I'll second that motion and 2nd to approve. Those in favor say aye aye.	01:13:59
	Aye, thank you.	01:14:03
	Thank you very much.	01:14:05
	All right, Item 3 N is information discussion action to authorize the ad.	01:14:06
	Kaisenmann of requests for.	01:14:11
	Proposal number Gil RFP2026001.	01:14:12
	And that is the do E.	01:14:19
	Weatherization and other repair rehabilitation services.	01:14:21
	And perform weatherization and rehabilitation services to.	01:14:26
	In accounting. Good morning, Josh.	01:14:29
	Hi, good morning, Chairman, Supervisors.	01:14:31
	We just ended our last extension with advantage.	01:14:34
	Performance. He's been doing this contract.	01:14:37
	Over the last three years.	01:14:40
	I will say that we've received.	01:14:41
	Just amazing customer service scores for them. I know nobody's here for them but.	01:14:44
	Just to the supervisors do know.	01:14:48
	It's kind of crazy to see contractors going in out of people's houses and receive the kind of feedback that we receive about the	01:14:51
	work they do so.	01:14:54
	Put that out there.	01:14:58
	It is time to go out to bid again, hopefully as we.	01:14:59
	Before we see some local bidders.	01:15:02
	That the new.	01:15:04
	Procurement system that Olivia put together might actually help.	01:15:05
	To get this out and get us a little more.	01:15:08
	Expansion up here to more vendors applying.	01:15:11
	Like I said, we've gotten really good work done from the contractor we have, but we do receive.	01:15:14
	Usually a three to $4000 per trip charges from the current consultant we have.	01:15:19
	So if we had the local bids or other bidders, we could probably do things more efficiently and get more homes covered. So.	01:15:24
	Hopefully this gets out there.	01:15:30
	We're able to get more.	01:15:32
	That's just everyone's aware.	01:15:33
	So typically we this is the one that we receive money from lots of different pots of money. We get money from department housing,	01:15:35
	Department of Energy, from all utility providers, from CDBG.	01:15:39
	Funds from the state.	01:15:45
	So this is just a whole bunch of different pots of money that go together that.	01:15:46
	In the last three or four years is typically between like 570 and you know.	01:15:50
	Right towards the end of COVID like 870, eight, $180,000 a year. So that's about the amount of money that goes out.	01:15:54
	Typically we do some of the projects with local vendors when they're like just primarily HVAC or some other kinds of.	01:16:00
	Of work that it can be bid locally, but for most of it. So probably 7580% of it goes out to these.	01:16:07
	Once a week contract help with.	01:16:14
	Thank you, Josh.	01:16:16
	Advisor Humphrey.	01:16:18
	I have no questions and thank you Josh for working with the locals that you can.	01:16:19
	And I understand that you can on the weatherization certification on others.	01:16:23
	And we don't have anybody that I know of local that has reached out for that, but.	01:16:28
	Hopefully someday there will be, so thank you for.	01:16:33
	Working on that.	01:16:37
	Thank you supervisor client.	01:16:38
	Thank you, Josh.	01:16:40
	Thank you. With that, I'll call for motion.	01:16:42
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to authorize the advertisement of the.	01:16:44
	Request for proposals numbered.	01:16:47
	GILRFP.	01:16:51
	2026001.	01:16:52
	And I'll second that.	01:16:55
	The motion and a second to approve those in favor say aye aye.	01:16:57
	Aye, aye, Josh.	01:17:00
	All right, we've already dealt with item 3 O.	01:17:03
	We're going to go on to Item 3, P Information, discussion action.	01:17:06
	To certify the collection amounts for the Superior Court.	01:17:09
	862,750.	01:17:12
	$0.95 for the Payson Regional Justice Court.	01:17:15
	The Superior Court was at the Payson Regional Justice Court IS 708,000.	01:17:21
	$590.63 in the globe.	01:17:27
	Regional Justice Court $789,247.22.	01:17:30
	For fiscal year 24.	01:17:36
	Through 25 and.	01:17:39
	Authorized the Chairman signature on the certification form.	01:17:40
	Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chair.	01:17:44
	Good morning, Supervisor Humphrey. Supervisor Klein.	01:17:47
	This is certifying the report we received from the county Treasurer's office.	01:17:50
	Which reports the.	01:17:55
	Directions for Superior Court.	01:17:57
	He's in regional Joe.	01:18:00
	For Anglo Regional Justice Court.	01:18:01
	And requesting.	01:18:04
	Chairman Signature on the.	01:18:05
	Thank you. That's a lot of money there.	01:18:08
	That is a lot of.	01:18:11
	Have a very busy court system.	01:18:12
	Yes.	01:18:14
	Other Humphrey.	01:18:17
	No questions asked.	01:18:18
	I'm good. Thank you, Mayor.	01:18:21
	Good too. So we'll call for motion.	01:18:22
	Mr. Chair, I'd love to certify the collection amount.	01:18:25
	But a Superior Court?	01:18:28
	Patient regional justice.	01:18:29
	And Globe Regional Justice Court for physical year 2024-2025.	01:18:31
	And authorized German signature.	01:18:36
	On the on the certification form.	01:18:39
	I'll second that.	01:18:41
	Motion to approve.	01:18:43
	And seconded, those in favor say aye aye.	01:18:44
	Thank you.	01:18:48
	All right, let's go on to item.	01:18:49
	Three Q.	01:18:52
	Information Discussion. Action to approve amendment #4.	01:18:53
	The contract number PTR 06/3.	01:18:56
	770.	01:19:00
	Digitizing permit and parcel files.	01:19:01
	With Iron Mountain Incorporated for.	01:19:04
	Renewal of the Insight software subscription.	01:19:07
	For the period of July 125 through June 30th.	01:19:10
	26 in the amount of $11,931.	01:19:14
	And $0.84, Good morning, Randy.	01:19:17
	Money surprises.	01:19:21
	So as you remember, this is part of the digitization of all.	01:19:22
	While I was going through.	01:19:27
	That has been completed.	01:19:28
	This is a program to let the view.	01:19:30
	The scans.	01:19:32
	There were some errors in the contract as far as when they ended and stuff.	01:19:36
	Why we're coming kind of at the end of it.	01:19:41
	We had to get it renewed.	01:19:44
	Go through that process that's been done, you guys.	01:19:46
	To prove that. So now we're paying for that program.	01:19:48
	Of $11,000.	01:19:53
	Excuse me?	01:19:56
	With that, I'll answer any questions.	01:19:56
	OK. Thank you. Supervisor Humphrey, I have no question.	01:19:58
	County supervisor club. I'm good, Randy. Thank you.	01:20:01
	And as well, So thank you for what you're doing and I'll call for motion.	01:20:03
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve amendment #4 to contract number.	01:20:07
	Are 063770.	01:20:13
	The Iron Mountain Incorporated as presented.	01:20:17
	Mr. Chair, I'll second that motion and a second to approve the.	01:20:19
	Say aye, aye.	01:20:23
	Thank you, Randy.	01:20:25
	Item 3R Information discussion action.	01:20:26
	To approve amendment #1 to the intergovernmental agreement with the.	01:20:29
	Hastened by two.	01:20:32
	10 yard roll off bins and one time payment of $8000.	01:20:34
	In support of the annual Payson Household and Electric.	01:20:38
	Electronic Waste Day.	01:20:42
	Event, good morning.	01:20:44
	Morning, Mr. Chairman.	01:20:45
	Supervisor Humphreys.	01:20:46
	Thank you for the time.	01:20:48
	And this this item is being brought to you.	01:20:50
	At the request of the town of Payson for us to.	01:20:53
	Partnering with them on the household hazardous waste and electronic waste is both.	01:20:55
	This is a program that they've been offering since 2021 and we've been helping with them.	01:20:59
	Helping them with that.	01:21:04
	It shows that this this agreement is.	01:21:06
	The amendment for this one is is to specify that we will provide 210 yard roll off Dins and.	01:21:10
	A donation of.	01:21:15
	$8000 to help support the parents.	01:21:18
	And this is for patient.	01:21:20
	We have not.	01:21:22
	Been the city of Globe.	01:21:23
	Hasn't approached us for doing it.	01:21:26
	Here in the city of Love, but we were willing to do that if they were to approach us.	01:21:28
	OK, be happy to answer 3.	01:21:32
	And that was going to be my question, $8000, does that come out of general fund?	01:21:35
	We'll get back to you on that.	01:21:48
	OK. Yeah, because.	01:21:50
	You know, town and facing.	01:21:52
	Town of Miami.	01:21:54
	City Globe. Donna Hayden.	01:21:55
	That's OK, you can get back to me. I would just.	01:22:07
	Don't know, just asking.	01:22:15
	OK.	01:22:18
	5:00 I'm good.	01:22:20
	You know, is this what we did last year, 8000 is it's kind of a repeat.	01:22:23
	It is OK.	01:22:28
	All right. And we don't know the date yet, do we?	01:22:29
	No, I haven't heard.	01:22:31
	Yeah, OK.	01:22:33
	All right, So I'll call for a motion.	01:22:34
	Mr. Chair, I moved to approve amendment #1 to the Inter.	01:22:37
	Governmental, uh.	01:22:40
	Agreement with Ton of Payson as presented.	01:22:41
	I'll second that motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye aye.	01:22:44
	Aye, thank you.	01:22:47
	Thank you, Matt.	01:22:49
	3S information discussion action to adopt revised merit system.	01:22:51
	Rule 4.	01:22:55
	Announcements.	01:22:57
	Patients and examinations recruitment.	01:22:58
	And selection process to include.	01:23:01
	Employment preferences as set forth.	01:23:04
	By the Arizona Revised Statute to be in effect April 21st.	01:23:07
	2026.	01:23:11
	Good morning, Rick.	01:23:13
	Good morning.	01:23:14
	Jim Advisors, Klein and Supervisor Humphrey.	01:23:14
	Thank you very much. I'm here today to.	01:23:18
	Present modification of our code to.	01:23:21
	Our policies to include the.	01:23:25
	Employment preferences, which?	01:23:28
	Are entitled by statute.	01:23:31
	Qualified veterans.	01:23:32
	Disabled veterans.	01:23:34
	That spouses and disabled individuals.	01:23:35
	Go into the statute.	01:23:39
	Although our current applications provide for applicants to claim such.	01:23:40
	Preferences. Uh.	01:23:45
	This policy sets forth the manner in which preferences.	01:23:46
	Are provided particularly.	01:23:50
	When our applicants.	01:23:52
	Are primarily interviewed in this county as opposed to testing.	01:23:53
	The statute provides us.	01:23:58
	As included in the statute, that.	01:24:00
	A veteran with the armed forces is.	01:24:02
	With armed forces.	01:24:04
	Of the United States who?	01:24:06
	Is separated from the armed forces.	01:24:07
	Under honorable conditions following more than six months.	01:24:09
	Active duty.	01:24:12
	Who takes an examination for employment shall be given.	01:24:14
	Five point preferences.	01:24:18
	Over persons who other than veterans.	01:24:22
	The veteran earns a passing grade in his examination.	01:24:26
	The five points is also given to our surviving spouse of a veteran.	01:24:30
	And this is upon initial hiring.	01:24:35
	In the county, it's not for.	01:24:37
	Promotional opportunities, that's the initial preference pursuant.	01:24:39
	To this.	01:24:43
	Provision.	01:24:44
	Veterans separated who?	01:24:46
	From active duty if.	01:24:48
	In the armed forces.	01:24:50
	Who have service connected disabilities.	01:24:51
	Receive a preference of 10 points.	01:24:54
	And a person with disabilities shall be given.	01:24:56
	Preference of five.	01:24:58
	The total preference.	01:25:00
	It provided pursuant.	01:25:01
	To this provision.	01:25:04
	Cannot exceed 15 points.	01:25:06
	Paragraph 6 is separate and is a little discretionary for the county and that sets forth.	01:25:10
	That a person is eligible for a preference pursuant to this section.	01:25:16
	They apply for employment with the county under a merit system.	01:25:19
	Of employment in which applicants are assessed and evaluated but are not.	01:25:22
	Not provided testing.	01:25:26
	Where scores are given, the preference shall be given.	01:25:29
	By granting the qualified applicant and interview.	01:25:32
	Such positions.	01:25:34
	If as a result of this interview, the applicant is deemed.	01:25:36
	To be qualified.	01:25:40
	For the preference.	01:25:41
	Has any other?	01:25:43
	As any other applicant not deemed.	01:25:46
	Eligible for the preference.	01:25:49
	And both applicants are indistinguishable.	01:25:50
	Based upon their assessments and evaluation.	01:25:53
	The applicant who is eligible for employment preference shall be selected.	01:25:55
	For employment. So that's a way that we can.	01:25:59
	Assess our uh, uh.	01:26:02
	Applicants and.	01:26:03
	Give them these preference points so.	01:26:04
	Those that are eligible.	01:26:07
	Will automatically.	01:26:08
	He interviewed.	01:26:10
	And upon interviewing, if they're equal to.	01:26:11
	Someone without the preference, they shall be selected.	01:26:14
	And we have a form that they will set up.	01:26:17
	Be able to access on our.	01:26:20
	Online, Uh.	01:26:22
	Where they can claim the preference point.	01:26:22
	And provide these supporting documents.	01:26:24
	Does anyone have any questions?	01:26:28
	Super Humphrey.	01:26:29
	You know what prompted this update?	01:26:31
	Of our.	01:26:34
	It has been in statute again, we've been following that, but this there is that.	01:26:35
	Void, uh.	01:26:40
	Particularly in.	01:26:41
	Where tests aren't given.	01:26:43
	And that's kind of discretionary as indicated and I want to.	01:26:45
	Make sure that.	01:26:48
	Even though we follow the statute points or.	01:26:50
	Are awarded that this sets forth.	01:26:52
	When we're not testing somebody and we're doing, we primarily do interviews in the county for.	01:26:55
	Positions and this sets forth the manner in which we can award these.	01:26:59
	Points to people that are being interviewed.	01:27:03
	Yeah, no, I think it's a good upgrade, so thank you.	01:27:06
	Thank you.	01:27:10
	This is for.	01:27:12
	Excuse me, it's.	01:27:13
	For initial employment.	01:27:14
	Yes.	01:27:15
	Thanks.	01:27:16
	So it doesn't apply to anyone that wants to move up the ladder once employed.	01:27:18
	Pursuant to the staff, no preference.	01:27:22
	Right and.	01:27:25
	These points, are they based on?	01:27:26
	Under point system.	01:27:28
	I mean, five points, 10 points. What's the people pointed?	01:27:30
	It depends on who's doing it, and we evaluate that with.	01:27:33
	I think the Sheriff's Office is the primary one doing the testing.	01:27:38
	And we're working through that with the Sheriff's Office.	01:27:41
	Yeah, it's just interesting to me.	01:27:44
	The the more disabled they are.	01:27:48
	The more likely they're going to get the job so.	01:27:51
	We're going to qualify them.	01:27:54
	In other words, their disability won't affect the outcome of their performance, right?	01:27:56
	They're just just disabled.	01:28:01
	And yeah, I I think it's good.	01:28:03
	It's a little hard to determine, I suppose.	01:28:07
	This what was the word?	01:28:11
	Indistinguishable.	01:28:14
	The indistinguishable difference like we don't distinguish the difference so.	01:28:16
	That's hard for people to do.	01:28:21
	Yes, in an interview.	01:28:23
	And if likability or.	01:28:25
	You know, uh.	01:28:27
	They're exactly the same.	01:28:29
	You know, that's right. That's hard to.	01:28:31
	Anyway, so OK, so today we're voting on whether we're going to adopt this new.	01:28:33
	Section.	01:28:37
	Yeah, into there that we've been practicing all along anyway.	01:28:38
	The the portions that the points are given that statutory and.	01:28:42
	When qualified applicants for initial.	01:28:47
	Term of employment.	01:28:50
	Are awarded those? Yes.	01:28:51
	Thank you.	01:28:53
	Thank you. All right. I'll ask for a motion.	01:28:54
	The motion to adopt the revised merit system. Rule 4.	01:28:57
	As presented.	01:29:01
	April 21st, 2026.	01:29:03
	I'll second that.	01:29:05
	Your motion in a second to approve Those in favor say aye aye.	01:29:07
	Aye aye item.	01:29:10
	3T information discussion action to approve a contract.	01:29:12
	Number Ctr. 059032 Dash.	01:29:16
	GC1 with.	01:29:19
	Terry Environmental Services Incorporated for detention.	01:29:21
	Senator, dirt removal and fence clearing.	01:29:25
	For the term of April 21st, 26th, due March 1st.	01:29:29
	47 for contract.	01:29:32
	Amount not to exceed $78,900.	01:29:35
	Good morning, Joseph.	01:29:38
	Morning Chairman, Board of Supervisors to build on.	01:29:39
	The chairman outlined the original issue.	01:29:42
	At This site is the long term erosion along the southern eastern.	01:29:44
	Embankments of the detention center during globe, which overtime has allowed soil.	01:29:48
	And debris to communicate.	01:29:52
	Accumulate along the permanent.	01:29:53
	Perimeter fence.	01:29:56
	That condition was significantly.	01:29:58
	Accelerated by the flood events this last September.	01:29:59
	Which push additional material.	01:30:03
	Into the area.	01:30:05
	And overwhelmed portions of the existing drainage.	01:30:06
	Since then.	01:30:09
	We're seeing in a continued build up.	01:30:10
	Along the fence line.	01:30:13
	That is starting to impact drainage flow and place added stress on the fence.	01:30:14
	System.	01:30:19
	Well, it is not at this point of failure today, it is trending in that direction.	01:30:20
	If we don't address it in a proactive way.	01:30:25
	We initially pursued a traditional bid process, however.	01:30:27
	As the site conditions changed, the original scope and pricing no longer reflected.	01:30:31
	The actual work required.	01:30:37
	Rather than.	01:30:38
	Move forward with something that didn't align with the current conditions.	01:30:39
	Who transitioned to estate cooperative contract?	01:30:43
	This allowed us to stay aligned with state guidance and positions accounting appropriately for.	01:30:46
	Projects tied to the flood related events.	01:30:51
	On their approved contracting list.	01:30:54
	The total will not to exceed $78,900. That includes approximate.	01:30:57
	6000 or.	01:31:02
	$6000 to set aside for.	01:31:04
	Potential engineering.	01:31:05
	Support if needed once the work begins.	01:31:07
	With that, I'd be happy to take any questions.	01:31:09
	Thank you, Supervisor Humphrey.	01:31:11
	Yeah, Joseph, no question, just thank you very much for.	01:31:13
	Keeping an eye on these projects and like you say, as things need to change or the project changes for.	01:31:17
	Keeping up on things like that, you're juggling an awful lot of projects, so.	01:31:23
	Appreciate the.	01:31:27
	The the thoroughness that you that you work with in in keeping us on.	01:31:29
	Project. Thank you.	01:31:34
	Joseph, thanks for putting this together, but.	01:31:37
	This just went to the state procurement process.	01:31:40
	Originally we went out for the bid process and then once the storms came in.	01:31:43
	It changes significantly. So in order for us to be able to still meet that timeline.	01:31:47
	It is transitioned over into the state procurement.	01:31:51
	We had conversations with.	01:31:56
	Finance department and they also found value.	01:31:57
	Because of how we're looking to potentially.	01:32:00
	Select projects like this for return on.	01:32:03
	Or return from.	01:32:07
	Flood events.	01:32:09
	That these contractors were selected on a very.	01:32:10
	Specific list.	01:32:13
	Off that state contract.	01:32:15
	I'm just curious because there we have a lot of people in.	01:32:17
	The area that moved dirt.	01:32:19
	You know, so I.	01:32:22
	I was curious why.	01:32:23
	We ended up going through the state.	01:32:24
	Yes, Sir.	01:32:27
	OK. Thanks, Joseph. Are we doing anything to prevent it from sliding down again? What are we doing to keep the dirt where it	01:32:28
	belongs?	01:32:32
	Anything.	01:32:36
	You throw some rocks on there.	01:32:37
	Chairman, Board of Supervisors, that's a great question. So we are looking to the future. We have a small contingency here for.	01:32:40
	Design side of it to see what we can potentially build out.	01:32:46
	Whether it's Gabby and Wall or some other retaining.	01:32:50
	But that's going to be a future project.	01:32:55
	Focuses to primarily focus on.	01:32:57
	Getting it.	01:32:59
	Security OK.	01:33:00
	Thank you. With that, I'll call.	01:33:02
	This year I moved to approve contract number CPR 05.	01:33:05
	9032 Dash.	01:33:08
	JC one of.	01:33:11
	What carry environmental services incorporated as presented?	01:33:13
	I'll second that motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye aye.	01:33:18
	Aye, aye.	01:33:22
	Three U information discussion.	01:33:24
	Action to authorize.	01:33:28
	The adverse amount of requests for proposal number 08.	01:33:30
	012025.	01:33:33
	The Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat Historic Cabin Electric.	01:33:36
	Draco Modernization.	01:33:39
	Thank you, Chairman.	01:33:43
	This item is requesting authorization to advertise a request for proposal for electrical modernization of the historic cabin at	01:33:45
	the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat.	01:33:49
	The cabin dates back to the 1930s and is listed on the National registry.	01:33:54
	History of places.	01:33:58
	Well, it's been all preserved. The electrical system is outdated and no longer meets current code or safety standards.	01:34:00
	This project will bring the electrical infrastructure up to 2023.	01:34:06
	National Electrical Code and Arizona Standards.	01:34:10
	While preserving the building's historic character.	01:34:13
	Operationally, this allows us to safely use the cabin for short term lodging.	01:34:16
	Or visiting veterans.	01:34:20
	Improving reliability and overall usability.	01:34:21
	And also to look at sustainable.	01:34:24
	Projects.	01:34:26
	In the future, such as adding.	01:34:27
	HVAC systems.	01:34:29
	To that location.	01:34:31
	Today's request is just the advertisement forbid so that we can obtain a competitive.	01:34:34
	Over and bring back a recommendation to the Board of Supervisors.	01:34:37
	With that, I'd be happy to take any questions.	01:34:41
	Supervisor Humphrey.	01:34:43
	Yeah, working on historic buildings could get.	01:34:45
	Extremely difficult in updating.	01:34:50
	Because there's a very fine line on what you can and can't do and what's expected and isn't expected, so.	01:34:52
	Yeah, that that's going to be.	01:34:58
	Interesting to see where that goes.	01:35:00
	That's all, Mr. Chair.	01:35:05
	Thank you, Supervisor Klein.	01:35:06
	I'm I'm good, Joseph this.	01:35:08
	It's been a long time coming, so.	01:35:10
	And and one thing to.	01:35:12
	Supervisors Humphrey.	01:35:14
	Thoughts There's.	01:35:16
	We're fortunate in the fact that shipboat's already cleared us for all the improvements on the inside of that.	01:35:18
	Household that helps.	01:35:22
	Thank you for putting this together.	01:35:25
	You bet.	01:35:27
	Joseph I.	01:35:28
	There's two historic.	01:35:29
	So this is just for one.	01:35:31
	That is correct.	01:35:33
	Chairman, this is just for the one.	01:35:34
	If you're familiar with the property as you're going up to the rear end of it.	01:35:36
	It's off to the left.	01:35:39
	The right side 1 is going to have a different use case. Use.	01:35:41
	Yeah, with the site.	01:35:45
	So yeah, there's the house and then there's like the office or whatever.	01:35:46
	Correct. So are we going to look at that one later?	01:35:49
	I said that one after discussions with stakeholders.	01:35:53
	We uh.	01:35:56
	The Electrical.	01:35:57
	Is sufficient enough to carry its current use.	01:35:58
	We just have to really pay attention to how we do maintenance. But its current setting is.	01:36:01
	All right, excellent. With that, I'll call for motion.	01:36:05
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to authorize that.	01:36:09
	Request for Proposals number 08012025.	01:36:12
	And then I'll second that.	01:36:17
	All right, motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye, aye.	01:36:20
	Aye, one more.	01:36:24
	Three, the information discussion action to authorize.	01:36:27
	The advertisement of requests for proposal number 08032025.	01:36:32
	Which is the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat generator?	01:36:37
	Installation.	01:36:41
	Thank you, Chairman. I'll keep this one moving as well. This item is for authorization to advertise for bid for generator	01:36:43
	installation at.	01:36:46
	Veterans trees as mentioned.	01:36:50
	As you know, This site is pretty remote.	01:36:53
	And when power goes out, it's not always a quick fix.	01:36:55
	Pressure on operations impacts folks.	01:36:58
	And the veterans utilizing the facility.	01:37:01
	What we're looking at.	01:37:05
	Is installing.	01:37:07
	Propane standby generators across the main.	01:37:08
	Buildings in the highest use facilities.	01:37:11
	So that we can keep things running during outages.	01:37:14
	Keeping the lights on.	01:37:18
	Maintain basic operations and avoid disruption for.	01:37:19
	The veterans and their families.	01:37:23
	This setup also allows us to go out and get the competitive proposal.	01:37:25
	And bring back the best option for the Board of Supervisors to sled.	01:37:28
	But that you have to take questions.	01:37:32
	OK. Thank you, Supervisor Humphrey.	01:37:34
	No questions.	01:37:37
	Professor Klein, I'm good. Thank you, Joseph.	01:37:38
	So 5 generators is what we're looking at to install.	01:37:40
	Yes. Have we already purchased the generators?	01:37:44
	No, Sir, that'll be part of this proposal.	01:37:47
	OK. Thank you.	01:37:49
	With that, I'll call.	01:37:50
	Mr. Chair, I move to authorize the advertisement of request for Proposal number 0803.	01:37:53
	2025 as presented.	01:37:59
	Motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	01:38:01
	Aye, aye. Thank you, Joseph.	01:38:05
	We are now.	01:38:08
	For our consent agenda items.	01:38:10
	There are items A through D.	01:38:12
	Supervisor, hopefully. Would you like to examine one or more of those separately? No, I'm good. Thank you.	01:38:14
	Thank you, Supervisor Klein.	01:38:19
	I'm good, OK. And I will call for a motion.	01:38:21
	To approve consent agenda items A through D message.	01:38:24
	I'll second it. Motion a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	01:38:28
	Aye aye, call to the public item number 5.	01:38:32
	Tyler, do we have anyone in the public that wishes to speak to the board?	01:38:36
	Yes, Sir, and thank you, Cassandra.	01:38:41
	You do.	01:38:45
	Well, now that's a development.	01:38:46
	I don't know what to do.	01:38:48
	So he didn't provide any contact information, but his name is Jason.	01:38:50
	Jason Todd.	01:38:55
	Constant OK.	01:38:57
	I'm proposing A citywide investigation into the rise of.	01:38:59
	In Chicken hawk and activity.	01:39:02
	I'm pretty sure they're coordinating on the roof and I'm sure they're up to no good.	01:39:04
	Justice for the chickens.	01:39:09
	OK, that's my call.	01:39:11
	All right. Thank you.	01:39:13
	No response.	01:39:14
	Anyone here in a globe that wishes to?	01:39:17
	Speak to the board.	01:39:19
	How many do we have on the Internet today?	01:39:23
	52 Thank you.	01:39:26
	Let's do our summary of current events, Mr. Mango.	01:39:29
	Nothing further today, Mr. Chairman.	01:39:34
	OK, Supervisor.	01:39:35
	Um, yeah, I I do have current events and.	01:39:39
	Held a Tunnel Basin community meeting.	01:39:45
	On the 7th of five.	01:39:48
	30 held a team meeting.	01:39:49
	With county manager, Deputy county manager.	01:39:51
	Help the community development.	01:39:55
	Directors on the 8th.	01:39:57
	Attended a Lincoln Day dinner on the 10th.	01:39:59
	Held a Gaithela community meeting on the 11th.	01:40:03
	Held a Roosevelt community meeting on the 13th.	01:40:07
	Attended a.	01:40:10
	A plan for a dot listening tour.	01:40:12
	Globe Miami meeting on the 13th.	01:40:16
	Was on KQFS on the 13th.	01:40:20
	And James, I'm surprised you didn't have the.	01:40:24
	Deal on this one.	01:40:26
	Attended a corab.	01:40:28
	Collaboration. Uh.	01:40:29
	Flood disaster action.	01:40:31
	Plan meeting.	01:40:33
	On the 15th.	01:40:35
	That was with the.	01:40:37
	Town of Glow, Town of Miami.	01:40:38
	And the mind.	01:40:41
	And Gila County.	01:40:43
	And they're wanting to put together.	01:40:45
	All of us to approach.	01:40:49
	Prove being together.	01:40:50
	To go forward and create a plan for.	01:40:53
	What we're gonna do?	01:40:56
	Or an action plan.	01:40:58
	For actually.	01:41:00
	Future flood events.	01:41:02
	They spoke to us that the fact that.	01:41:05
	As we all know, if everybody gets together and puts in for funding, it's it's easier to get the funding with you have all included	01:41:08
	partners.	01:41:12
	And so the town of.	01:41:16
	Miami, the city of Globe. Ask at the county.	01:41:17
	And the mind to ask if the county would be willing?	01:41:20
	To be a partner in that so that we all work together.	01:41:23
	In a. In a.	01:41:27
	In a in a plan on.	01:41:29
	On flood control for the future.	01:41:31
	So, um.	01:41:34
	With that said.	01:41:36
	When we get to the next item.	01:41:37
	I would think that that needs to be.	01:41:40
	On a future agenda item.	01:41:42
	And I will bring that up on a future agenda item.	01:41:44
	Because.	01:41:47
	I am one leg of a tripod and I told them that.	01:41:48
	I am very supportive of that.	01:41:51
	But I cannot speak for the full.	01:41:54
	And so.	01:41:57
	Umm, anyway.	01:41:59
	That is something that I would like.	01:42:00
	To bring up.	01:42:03
	When we get to that, and that's all I think.	01:42:05
	Thank you, Supervisor Klein.	01:42:07
	It's a little Saturday, April 11th. I was one of the judges.	01:42:10
	4H beef cook off at the fairgrounds.	01:42:15
	There's an all day event.	01:42:18
	A lot of kids there have a big group in the morning and a big group.	01:42:20
	The afternoon went really well I thought. Had a lot of fun.	01:42:23
	And really good to see.	01:42:27
	A lot of different people.	01:42:29
	On the 15th, I attended a Zoom meeting with Resolution Copper and county staff regarding zoning.	01:42:31
	Camp area where the tailings are.	01:42:37
	Randy was on the call, so was Michael.	01:42:40
	It was a good meeting.	01:42:45
	But one thing that came to light and I did point out.	01:42:47
	To resolution.	01:42:50
	Resolution went through a lot of that area and bought a lot of property up.	01:42:52
	I don't know the number of properties.	01:42:59
	But there's a bunch of.	01:43:03
	And so, you know, I can't help but think when we go back to the 3 1/2 percent, we operate it on and I think about things like	01:43:05
	that.	01:43:08
	And that's, that's one of the things I brought up to him was.	01:43:12
	You know, you buy this property and that's all.	01:43:16
	Well, fine, you know the owners want to sell because of.	01:43:18
	Aesthetics of the.	01:43:22
	The minor.	01:43:24
	For the tailings or the water issues that could be there, whatever it is, they want to sell some resolution bottle.	01:43:25
	But the problem that.	01:43:31
	Gila County is going to face.	01:43:33
	Is if those properties actually.	01:43:35
	Go into.	01:43:38
	Mine operations.	01:43:40
	Minds can self assess.	01:43:43
	What that means?	01:43:47
	Means we'll just have to wait and see.	01:43:48
	Because either they could drop assessments they could assess.	01:43:50
	Like, you know, they should. Whatever it is, we don't know what that's going to mean.	01:43:54
	But the bottom line is, is they did acquire a lot of property they're also looking at purchasing.	01:43:58
	Some more state lands right there. More.	01:44:04
	More adjacent to the tailings themselves.	01:44:08
	And so.	01:44:11
	They brought that up, you know that that would be.	01:44:13
	Come private property and.	01:44:15
	Yes, it would, but it's still in the mine operations and so we're still faced with those.	01:44:17
	Those assessment issues.	01:44:23
	And so.	01:44:25
	Time will tell on that, but.	01:44:26
	There there could be a big change.	01:44:28
	Later on that day I had the same meeting as.	01:44:32
	Supervisor Humphrey did.	01:44:34
	With the Globe Miami.	01:44:36
	PHP and neom and talking about the flooding and the issues.	01:44:39
	And whatnot. It went well.	01:44:44
	Lucinda and I can't think of her last name.	01:44:47
	Poconino.	01:44:49
	Do you know her last name?	01:44:50
	And I drew a blank. Anyway, she was in there in that meeting as well, so.	01:44:53
	It was a good meeting and and we'll see where that goes.	01:44:57
	April 16th.	01:45:01
	I attended the CSA.	01:45:03
	Executive board meeting.	01:45:06
	Let me back up.	01:45:07
	April 15th.	01:45:09
	I was on a zoom meeting with ECO.	01:45:11
	And we had that meeting. A lot of it had to do with.	01:45:13
	With future meetings coming up, one of the thoughts are we're going to try and put together a mining tour.	01:45:19
	This next year, Next November.	01:45:25
	And so I'll be working.	01:45:27
	On that, trying to help set that up as well.	01:45:29
	The next meeting I was I was in Phoenix at the CSA.	01:45:32
	Executing board meeting.	01:45:35
	That mostly addressed all the positions that were up to be either.	01:45:37
	Reseeded or changed out to whoever.	01:45:41
	NACO positions, the WIR position that I'm on. I'll stay on that board along with.	01:45:44
	Patrice Horsemen for for this next round.	01:45:49
	And so it was a good time there.	01:45:52
	Except as Phoenix.	01:45:56
	And then?	01:45:58
	Wednesday Tomorrow.	01:45:59
	I'll be meeting with the zoning ordinance.	01:46:01
	Update with my.	01:46:04
	Pointees and Nye.	01:46:05
	Todd, Ginger.	01:46:07
	And Travis Holder.	01:46:09
	And we're going to be talking about the upcoming zoning and.	01:46:11
	And things like that. So it should really be a good discussion, Randy.	01:46:14
	Should have lots of notes for you.	01:46:18
	And.	01:46:21
	On the 24th this Friday there will be an A dot listening session.	01:46:22
	In Young at the Retreat.	01:46:26
	So ADOT is actually sending.	01:46:29
	The part of the board members up there.	01:46:31
	To sit down with the.	01:46:33
	Folks there in Young and talk about the state highway.	01:46:35
	Coming in to Young.	01:46:38
	And whatever other issues that come up, I.	01:46:39
	I don't know what they'll be, but.	01:46:43
	Ought to be a good.	01:46:44
	Good session.	01:46:45
	And then on May 9th.	01:46:48
	From 11:00 to 4:00 there will be a picnic fundraiser in Young at the retreat.	01:46:51
	It's sponsored by the Pleasant Valley.	01:46:56
	Veterans Retreat Incorporated nonprofit along with the local veterans group.	01:46:58
	And we have Flyers to that.	01:47:02
	And it looks like it's going to be a big turn out right.	01:47:05
	A lot of people are gonna be there and.	01:47:07
	Joseph, thank you for and your people for all the work you're doing on that.	01:47:09
	That's awesome. And so it should be a good time they.	01:47:13
	As chance come up to it.	01:47:16
	Other than that, Mr. Chair, that is it.	01:47:18
	Thank you. So in reference to this.	01:47:21
	Joseph, you bring your own food.	01:47:23
	Picnic or is it?	01:47:25
	Provided.	01:47:27
	Picnic. Sounds like you bring your own.	01:47:32
	Chairman, board, supervisors. I have limited information, but from what I do understand, it's going to be barbecued.	01:47:34
	On site so you show up.	01:47:40
	You're going to get that. Oh, OK.	01:47:42
	Thank you for that clarification.	01:47:44
	Mark that down.	01:47:47
	Put it on the calendar, girls.	01:47:50
	Yeah.	01:47:52
	The other day I went to the Community College. They had a space program.	01:47:54
	Presentation there, you know they're building the.	01:48:00
	Observatory.	01:48:02
	There and so it was pretty interesting.	01:48:04
	You look community colleges.	01:48:08
	Plug in a way doing well.	01:48:10
	And I.	01:48:12
	I think has a bright future so.	01:48:15
	Also met with the.	01:48:17
	Everybody at the most, everybody at the discovery Hua.	01:48:19
	County Board.	01:48:23
	And uh.	01:48:24
	That was a good discussion as well. They do an awful lot. They have a lot of good statistics there.	01:48:28
	And I've just been meeting with.	01:48:35
	Constituents here and there about this and that.	01:48:37
	Um, I did watch a.	01:48:42
	A presentation on data.	01:48:44
	Data centers.	01:48:47
	Data center.	01:48:48
	Seems to be a huge concern. I don't.	01:48:50
	I haven't quite figured out why.	01:48:53
	It's a huge concern. I mean, they they're going to use a lot of power, so they have to figure that one out.	01:48:55
	And they do use some water, but they don't use as much as what I think everybody.	01:49:00
	Thinks they're just gonna be.	01:49:05
	Draining the coffers.	01:49:07
	So over and.	01:49:09
	In an annual.	01:49:10
	Thing and these these are.	01:49:12
	Coming. This is the future. This is the cloud.	01:49:13
	OK. And they got to have these things.	01:49:17
	And so.	01:49:19
	They said that uh, uh.	01:49:20
	A typical data center, which is.	01:49:22
	Massive. We use the equivalent of what, 41?	01:49:24
	It was 41 golf courses used.	01:49:28
	Any year. OK, that sounds like a lot.	01:49:32
	There's 266 golf courses in Maricopa County.	01:49:34
	So.	01:49:38
	That's a that's a lot of golf courses.	01:49:42
	And so I don't know if the US.	01:49:44
	Bigger is it?	01:49:47
	I don't think it's come to Gila County right away.	01:49:49
	So anyway.	01:49:51
	I just wanted to report that. Yes, Sir.	01:49:52
	Mr. Chairman, Supervisor Humphrey bringing up the.	01:49:54
	Fighting and issues.	01:49:57
	I do need to report to you that.	01:49:59
	Two weeks ago, he was approved.	01:50:02
	Going out to bond $18 million for flooding? Really.	01:50:04
	The stipple has gone out.	01:50:07
	Going to bid on the.	01:50:09
	The bids have come back.	01:50:11
	For that the.	01:50:13
	Interest rate on that money will be less than.	01:50:14
	4%.	01:50:16
	They're trying. It's it's.	01:50:18
	Based on certain.	01:50:20
	Outside.	01:50:22
	Parameters.	01:50:23
	And so but it is.	01:50:24
	It will be less than 4.	01:50:26
	That money that.	01:50:28
	Bonding that we're going to do, so that is excellent.	01:50:30
	The interest rates that were proposed or that they got back were.	01:50:33
	On up to 4 1/2 percent.	01:50:36
	The sale of the bonds will.	01:50:39
	Be on May 14th.	01:50:43
	So that is the date that the money will be available to Gila County.	01:50:45
	To be able to utilize for the flood.	01:50:50
	Remediation and relief.	01:50:52
	Projects that we have outlined that have been presented to you.	01:50:54
	So I wanted to make sure you're aware of that, that is.	01:50:57
	And that money won't be available to the county.	01:51:00
	Those projects on May 14th.	01:51:03
	Awesome. May 14th less than 4%. I would not have guessed that.	01:51:06
	That's a great number.	01:51:11
	All right, also attended a.	01:51:14
	A little thing that the town of Patient put on yesterday.	01:51:17
	About biochar.	01:51:19
	If you don't know what that is, that's turning wood kind of into charcoal.	01:51:21
	A usable product.	01:51:24
	It's sort of this.	01:51:26
	High heat, slow.	01:51:28
	Low oxygen environment turns the wood into this black charcoal.	01:51:30
	Which is beneficial anyway, so.	01:51:34
	They're looking into that.	01:51:37
	And I'm very interested in it too, so.	01:51:38
	Just kind of keep an eye on that and see whether or not we can help our.	01:51:41
	Fire wising situation.	01:51:45
	By introducing biochar if we want to do that.	01:51:48
	And then I also was on Kmog. That always goes well. So that's all I have.	01:51:51
	So let's move on now to suggested agenda items and.	01:51:56
	Supervisor Humphrey, what do you have on that?	01:52:00
	You've been on request for future agenda items. Yes, Sir.	01:52:04
	I would like.	01:52:07
	To have a.	01:52:08
	Work session.	01:52:10
	With with Freeport.	01:52:13
	Probably present because they're the ones that.	01:52:16
	Wanting to put forth.	01:52:18
	The money if we all work together to build a plan.	01:52:19
	And staff as well.	01:52:25
	To be able to get the supervisors together.	01:52:27
	To work on making a decision on whether we want to partner with the town of Miami.	01:52:30
	Of report and the City of Globe.	01:52:35
	And so like I say with unless we have a discussion on it.	01:52:38
	Then we can't go forward.	01:52:43
	With it.	01:52:45
	As a partner and so that's the reason that I would like it on a future.	01:52:47
	Agenda item.	01:52:52
	Okay.	01:52:53
	Thank you.	01:52:55
	For now, let's see if we can do that.	01:52:55
	So, so much.	01:53:00
	Thought about this a lot.	01:53:03
	And uh.	01:53:04
	Far as wheat is the county, in my opinion is is we're way behind on work sessions.	01:53:06
	And we're just getting further and further behind as we go on. But the one thing that.	01:53:11
	That keeps, kind of.	01:53:16
	Slowing me up a little bit.	01:53:19
	Is when when I came on board.	01:53:22
	Work sessions were looked at as a place where we could actually communicate.	01:53:25
	And talk.	01:53:29
	I see a change and So what I want to request is is I'd like to get.	01:53:32
	You, Joe, to hold the work session with us.	01:53:36
	On what we can actually.	01:53:41
	Discuss or how can we format something we can discuss as a board because.	01:53:43
	Without work, without being able to have discussions.	01:53:48
	As a board and work sessions.	01:53:52
	I don't know what we're doing here.	01:53:55
	I really don't.	01:53:57
	And you know, and I hate to get **** * every time you shut me down on it.	01:53:58
	On stuff like that when I think.	01:54:02
	In my mind that it's legitimate.	01:54:04
	The good to go so.	01:54:06
	I would like to ask some time that you guys put on a.	01:54:09
	Accession force that.	01:54:12
	Explains. I'm not interested in opinions.	01:54:14
	I'll be honest with you, I'm interested in black and white.	01:54:17
	What is it?	01:54:20
	We can do.	01:54:21
	To communicate as a board in work session.	01:54:23
	If I may.	01:54:27
	I think we have next.	01:54:29
	We have one coming up next time.	01:54:31
	And here we're cooperating.	01:54:32
	But I know I see. So that's the same thing as I was trying to do your day, but.	01:54:34
	But I'd like to see something.	01:54:39
	Brought out maybe?	01:54:41
	Maybe it'll.	01:54:44
	I don't know what it is.	01:54:45
	But I just I'm getting.	01:54:46
	To the point where I'm feeling like we're getting.	01:54:49
	Pinch down further and further to where?	01:54:52
	I really don't know why.	01:54:54
	Thank you.	01:54:59
	Mr. Chairman, Superline.	01:55:01
	Yes, the the Board of the Hill County Attorneys Office will work on a presentation.	01:55:03
	To cover open meeting law.	01:55:09
	And the types of discussions that the board can enter into.	01:55:12
	But it has always.	01:55:16
	Then at least my my.	01:55:18
	Impression that during work sessions.	01:55:21
	That is the time when the board can.	01:55:23
	Enter into discussions freely.	01:55:26
	Among yourselves and staff.	01:55:28
	So the staff has some direction.	01:55:30
	From the board and we've had, we've just had a number of work sessions where that has occurred.	01:55:32
	Regarding paragraphs and a few other things.	01:55:38
	It's just that you can't take any action during the work session. You can discuss them freely.	01:55:40
	So we will clarify that.	01:55:45
	During a presentation on the open meeting log.	01:55:48
	And I'll work with the.	01:55:51
	County manager and clerk to see if maybe.	01:55:54
	You want that schedule on a day other than a.	01:55:56
	Regular board meeting.	01:55:59
	If that suits the.	01:56:02
	The supervisor.	01:56:03
	One thing I'd like to make sure that the general public has a chance at listening in on this.	01:56:04
	Because, uh.	01:56:09
	Because I get a lot of questions like why can't you guys do this?	01:56:10
	Well, where do you want me to start?	01:56:13
	You know, and so.	01:56:15
	As work sessions go, Joe, I have been shot down in work sessions.	01:56:17
	And one of the things that I do know.	01:56:20
	Is uh.	01:56:23
	We may be discussing a topic.	01:56:24
	That leads into something else, and when I bring that up, I get shot down.	01:56:26
	And so I know that there's other.	01:56:31
	Councils and stuff that.	01:56:34
	Have agenda items on there to kind of cover things to where you can.	01:56:36
	You can visit.	01:56:41
	You know.	01:56:43
	But but, Mr. Chairman.	01:56:44
	Supervising Klein. We'll work on that.	01:56:46
	And when those are scheduled?	01:56:48
	Then we will work.	01:56:51
	Clerk of the board to make sure that.	01:56:53
	The agenda items are awarded so that it allows.	01:56:56
	Some discussion interplay.	01:56:59
	As the board vote.	01:57:01
	Choose the vote.	01:57:04
	Will approve or disapprove any particular item.	01:57:06
	Thank you, Joe. It will work to give you as much flexibility.	01:57:09
	As the Arizona Open meeting law.	01:57:12
	That would help.	01:57:16
	We'll call it a work session on whatever you want to say.	01:57:19
	But I do realize we have to stay within parameters of the.	01:57:24
	I'll clarify that be great.	01:57:28
	Will do the Macy.	01:57:29
	You help us out.	01:57:32
	I only have one request.	01:57:34
	Item Discover. Gila County wanted to do a presentation Mr. Menlove on May 19th.	01:57:36
	Meeting so if we can.	01:57:43
	Keep that going.	01:57:46
	May 19, for the discovery.	01:57:48
	Presentation. Umm.	01:57:51
	OK, Mr. Chairman, is that?	01:57:54
	So, OK, never mind, it's just a presentation to the board.	01:57:58
	I think it's a presentation and they.	01:58:03
	They're anticipating May 19.	01:58:06
	So I'd like to.	01:58:08
	Have some solidness to that so that they're.	01:58:09
	Prepared.	01:58:12
	OK, alright.	01:58:13
	Thank you.	01:58:15
	And now?	01:58:15
	We're going to go into a work session now.	01:58:18
	Do we need to stretch our legs for?	01:58:20
	10 minutes or something.	01:58:22
	We do. We want to roll right into that, supervisors.	01:58:24
	But I have to be fine.	01:58:28
	OK, let's let's do minister in that vicinity and.	01:58:29
	Touch your legs.	01:58:33
	Yeah, it just doesn't.	01:58:36
	It's only right once a day.	01:58:38
	OK, because of time.	01:58:46
	Go ahead and keep this thing rolling.	01:58:48
	We will have a work session so.	01:58:51
	No action on this is.	01:58:53
	Going to be information discussion for the.	01:58:55
	PSPRS system.	01:58:58
	Unfunded actuarial accrued liability discussion.	01:59:00
	It's Fund 112, the Hill County Sheriff's Office.	01:59:04
	And Marin is going to start things off.	01:59:08
	And we do have a presenter, Clark.	01:59:10
	Partridge so.	01:59:13
	Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair, on March 17th.	01:59:14
	We brought you the annual policy update.	01:59:17
	For Bosfin 116.	01:59:22
	And at that time, the Board of Supervisors asked us to.	01:59:24
	Have work session item to talk about the.	01:59:29
	Fluctuation in funding percentage.	01:59:32
	In Fund 112, Gila County Sheriff's Office.	01:59:35
	Today is the day that Mister Partridge was available to be with us to review this.	01:59:39
	So he will be presenting his information to you.	01:59:44
	OK. Thank you.	01:59:48
	Thanks for being patient.	01:59:50
	Well, thank you. It's a pleasure to be with you here today, Mr. Chairman.	01:59:52
	Members of the.	01:59:57
	Of the board.	01:59:58
	For the record, my name is Clark Partridge. I'm a senior executive consultant.	02:00:00
	And interim administrator with the.	02:00:04
	Public safety personnel retirement system.	02:00:07
	Good to be with you here today.	02:00:09
	Just a little bit about me, my first career was actually a dairy farmer.	02:00:13
	But I had a few knee offers.	02:00:19
	Patients and that didn't go well with dairy farms, so I became an accountant.	02:00:20
	And move down here to Arizona, where there's no life.	02:00:25
	And things to have to deal with with.	02:00:29
	With bad knees, but.	02:00:31
	I was a state Comptroller for a little over 18 years and.	02:00:34
	Have held another number of positions in government and.	02:00:37
	Just want to thank you for your.	02:00:40
	Civic Service.	02:00:42
	And then how important it is.	02:00:44
	For public bodies to be able to.	02:00:47
	Serve their citizens, but also for the citizens to express appreciation for those that serve.	02:00:50
	So thank you.	02:00:54
	Thank you.	02:00:56
	I want to give a little bit of background.	02:00:58
	Cover a few couple things, really quick to to discuss some concepts and then as we go.	02:01:01
	They'll be helpful in our discussion here today.	02:01:07
	This is the pension funding equation.	02:01:10
	Is relatively simple. Where the money comes from, that's from contributions.	02:01:12
	And investment returns.	02:01:17
	Where the money goes is benefits and then the expenses of.	02:01:18
	PSPRS.	02:01:22
	By far the biggest.	02:01:23
	Number in that equation is the benefit.	02:01:24
	That's the focus for the program, is to provide those pension benefits.	02:01:27
	We strive to keep the expenses down. That's one of the reasons why a lot of the different plans are.	02:01:32
	Are essentially administered.	02:01:38
	Through agent multiple employer plans.	02:01:40
	Where you don't have to have a separate investment team, you don't have to have a separate.	02:01:42
	Pension payment.	02:01:48
	Process etc.	02:01:49
	So a lot of those expenses of administering the pension are served by PSPRS.	02:01:51
	And that helps keep the cost down and gets the efficiency that.	02:01:57
	That we can get through numbers and.	02:02:01
	And sighs that way.	02:02:03
	The investment returns we have in the.	02:02:05
	Assumed rate of return of 7.2%.	02:02:07
	As you all know, the markets are not always just 7.2%.	02:02:10
	They're up, they're down, they're sideways.	02:02:16
	We try to have a diversified portfolio.	02:02:19
	That is the.	02:02:22
	Tends to mute those highs and lows and.	02:02:23
	It is built.	02:02:27
	And so that we can protect the downside.	02:02:29
	And try to maximize as much as the upside as possible.	02:02:32
	That's how we manage the portfolio.	02:02:35
	And then what doesn't made-up?	02:02:38
	Is it doesn't?	02:02:40
	Materialized through the investment returns.	02:02:42
	Is made-up with contributions.	02:02:44
	So, umm.	02:02:47
	It's very important that as you've taken the steps.	02:02:48
	To get to.	02:02:51
	Approximately 100% funded status.	02:02:53
	That's very important because you can't earn investments on dollars that you don't have.	02:02:55
	And so a lot of people think, well, you're charging us 7.2%. Well, that's really not.	02:03:01
	Through what we are doing is, is taking the dollars that you have in your pension plan and then investing that.	02:03:08
	And if the dollars are there?	02:03:15
	Earn investment returns if they're not.	02:03:18
	They just can't, much like.	02:03:20
	We do for our own retirement.	02:03:22
	We're not saving very much if I've only got $5.	02:03:24
	My retirement.	02:03:28
	I might have.	02:03:29
	Grandiose goals, but.	02:03:30
	I'm going to have to contribute a lot of additional dollars because.	02:03:32
	$5 isn't going to generate much in the way of investment.	02:03:35
	A little bit about pensions and how they work.	02:03:42
	What an actuary does when they come in.	02:03:46
	Is they will.	02:03:49
	There's a lot of assumptions and estimates and things that they have to do.	02:03:51
	To make.	02:03:56
	Reasonable estimates on what that pension liability is.	02:03:59
	And it is much like our own retirement.	02:04:02
	How much do we need for retirement?	02:04:05
	They're going to be what are our housing?	02:04:07
	And food and other costs. How much is inflation?	02:04:10
	Right. So we have all of these things that we may want to accomplish in our retirement years.	02:04:13
	So how much money do we need to make that happen?	02:04:19
	If we've been saving money all along.	02:04:22
	That there's also what, what are those savings and how much investments am I going to get from those savings?	02:04:25
	Right. So all of these things that.	02:04:31
	Typical types of things that can happen with our own retirement.	02:04:33
	Can happen with.	02:04:37
	A pension plan.	02:04:38
	And things change.	02:04:40
	I'm sure if I when I was planning my retirement.	02:04:42
	And looking at it.	02:04:47
	About 10 years ago.	02:04:49
	My inflation assumptions were far different than what they are today.	02:04:51
	Right. So we can look at a lot of those things and we have to update.	02:04:55
	Our assumptions periodically and take a new reality check.	02:04:59
	And build a different glide path.	02:05:03
	Have to how we are going to get where we need to be.	02:05:06
	OK. And so that really is fundamentally.	02:05:09
	What happens in the pension process?	02:05:13
	And the actuaries come in and one of the, one of the.	02:05:16
	Things they'll do is take all those assumptions and estimates.	02:05:19
	And they will project.	02:05:22
	A cash flow.	02:05:23
	For all.	02:05:25
	The the eligible.	02:05:26
	Recipients and what what they're going to earn.	02:05:28
	And ultimately in a pension plan.	02:05:31
	Now they have to make estimates for.	02:05:34
	How long people are going to work?	02:05:36
	What type of earnings are they going to have through their career?	02:05:37
	When are they actually going to retire?	02:05:42
	How long are they going to live?	02:05:45
	ETC Right.	02:05:47
	So all of those assumptions, but they will.	02:05:48
	Project out that future cash flow into the future.	02:05:51
	And then they will discount that cash flow at the same.	02:05:55
	Rate of return as our investment rate.	02:05:59
	Which is 7.2%.	02:06:01
	And that 7.2%.	02:06:04
	Gets to a present value of benefit.	02:06:07
	And essentially what that is, is if you had.	02:06:09
	That much in cash?	02:06:12
	And we earn 7.2%.	02:06:14
	In investment returns.	02:06:17
	Going into the future.	02:06:19
	You would have enough in cash.	02:06:21
	To be able to take care of all of those benefits.	02:06:23
	Should be fully funded.	02:06:25
	Now we know that investment returns go up and down and not everything is in the perfect world.	02:06:27
	And because React.	02:06:33
	Almost always.	02:06:35
	Differs from what our estimates are.	02:06:37
	There's going to be.	02:06:41
	Things that workout differently.	02:06:43
	Will need to be course corrected.	02:06:45
	We do those course corrections each year when we do an actuarial valuation.	02:06:47
	So all of that information that we've learned on the differences between.	02:06:52
	Reality.	02:06:56
	And what the assumptions were.	02:06:57
	Are taken into account by the actuaries.	02:06:58
	And then they make.	02:07:01
	Revised Estimate.	02:07:02
	Event essentially develop a new glide path.	02:07:03
	To what needs to be done to provide for those benefits.	02:07:07
	Now, if that present value of benefits, what the actuaries will do is they will come in and break that up.	02:07:10
	Couple of pieces.	02:07:17
	There's the amount that the employees have earned.	02:07:19
	Up to that point.	02:07:22
	So if I'm a.	02:07:23
	A sheriff officer.	02:07:25
	And a deputy and I've.	02:07:27
	Worked for 15 years and I and the actuaries estimating that I'm going to work till 25 years.	02:07:29
	The 15 years would be what I've earned.	02:07:36
	Of that salary today.	02:07:39
	The 10 years is what I'm going to earn in the future.	02:07:41
	As I work.	02:07:45
	So the actuaries would take that 25 year benefit estimate and that cash flow.	02:07:47
	And they would break that up into how much has been earned as of.	02:07:52
	The actuarial valuation date.	02:07:56
	June 3025 is the most recent valuation.	02:07:58
	And how much is going to be in the future?	02:08:02
	And that breaks that down into.	02:08:04
	The future is what's paid through the normal cost contributions.	02:08:07
	And the actual accrue liability would be.	02:08:11
	Well, that's how much.	02:08:14
	Assets I should have as well as the liability to be 100% funded.	02:08:15
	At that point.	02:08:20
	If the assets are a little less than that.	02:08:22
	To the extent that they're less.	02:08:24
	There's going to be an unfunded liability.	02:08:26
	That unfunded liability is going to be amortized.	02:08:29
	Over a period of 15 years.	02:08:32
	And that by amortizing that over 15 years?	02:08:35
	It spreads that out so it doesn't have a huge.	02:08:40
	Impact on your.	02:08:43
	Contribution rates.	02:08:44
	Which impacts your budget.	02:08:46
	Right. So a lot of the things that the actuaries will do.	02:08:48
	Both whether it's the amortization of the unfunded liability.	02:08:52
	Or the amortization of some of the gains and losses from the volatility of the investments?	02:08:56
	All of those things are designed to help spread those things out over time.	02:09:01
	And minimize the volatility to the contribution rates.	02:09:06
	Which is.	02:09:10
	Minimizes the volatility impact.	02:09:10
	On your budget?	02:09:13
	OK.	02:09:15
	That's OK.	02:09:20
	And so.	02:09:22
	What we'll do?	02:09:24
	OK, it's you, not me. That's OK.	02:09:27
	Thank you.	02:09:30
	So, um.	02:09:33
	So that's essentially how the pension works.	02:09:35
	And how this is funded when when you're fully funded you don't have an amortization?	02:09:38
	That unfunded actuarial accrue liability because it doesn't exist.	02:09:43
	But when you're when you do have one, then there's that additional cost in addition to the.	02:09:49
	It isn't advancing.	02:09:57
	Thank you.	02:10:01
	So this is now a look at your overall liability for this is just a pension portion.	02:10:03
	You can see here that.	02:10:10
	You if you look at the total accrued.	02:10:12
	Uh.	02:10:15
	Last year it was 25,000,300 and 16,902 this year is 26.	02:10:17
	578.	02:10:24
	3/28.	02:10:25
	So as a person.	02:10:27
	Works another year, they're going to earn another year towards.	02:10:29
	Their pension.	02:10:34
	And that's going to be part of that actuarial accrue liability because that's what they've earned.	02:10:35
	If you go above that in the present value of the benefits.	02:10:40
	That's the present value.	02:10:44
	Of all the benefits into the future.	02:10:47
	OK. So that's those dollar amounts that if you had those?	02:10:50
	Not that in assets.	02:10:53
	At this point in time, the 28 million.	02:10:55
	5/19, 7:41.	02:10:57
	Then that would be enough to take care of things in the future.	02:11:00
	So really where you want to be ideally is kind of between those two numbers.	02:11:04
	OK. And that's where you had been last year?	02:11:09
	This year you're not. We'll talk about that a little bit, but what I want to talk about here.	02:11:13
	In your report.	02:11:18
	Look at the actuarial present value of benefits. It also gives you the information broken down.	02:11:19
	How much of that is due to?	02:11:24
	The retirees and their beneficiaries.	02:11:27
	They're surviving spouses or.	02:11:31
	Or others. There's people who are in drop right now.	02:11:33
	When somebody goes in to drop.	02:11:38
	We calculate their retirement benefits and we pay that retirement benefit.	02:11:40
	It just goes into a drop account.	02:11:45
	Earning interest rather than get paid directly to the individual.	02:11:47
	But it's essentially the same as a retirement.	02:11:50
	Payment there are vested individuals that have vested and have.	02:11:53
	That no longer work for you, but.	02:11:58
	Will have a right to.	02:12:00
	Retire sometime in the future.	02:12:02
	And then of course you have the active.	02:12:05
	Member population. These are active employees.	02:12:07
	And each of those added up together is what makes up that present value.	02:12:09
	You can also look and see that the assets are actually a little bit lower than the.	02:12:15
	Actuarial accrued liability, so that's 26.2 million versus about 20.	02:12:22
	6.6 million.	02:12:27
	And so that leaves you with the non funded.	02:12:30
	Actuarial accurate liability of 375,000.	02:12:33
	Dollars last year.	02:12:38
	Over funded.	02:12:40
	A bit this year is that.	02:12:41
	You've had a change here.	02:12:44
	From 102 to 98.6 and one of the questions.	02:12:45
	Miranda talked to me about IS.	02:12:51
	Why that?	02:12:55
	Is changing.	02:12:56
	And the reason why is because of all these assumptions.	02:12:57
	That the actuaries are now.	02:13:00
	Updating uh.	02:13:02
	Based upon reality.	02:13:04
	And those updates.	02:13:06
	Are just.	02:13:08
	They calculate.	02:13:09
	New estimate.	02:13:11
	And it's much like in your.	02:13:12
	Budget Forecast At the beginning of the year, you'll adopt A budget.	02:13:14
	As you go throughout the year.	02:13:19
	Things don't work out exactly how you budget for them before the year started.	02:13:21
	Reality of life.	02:13:26
	Happens right?	02:13:27
	And so you have to manage those things to kind of and.	02:13:29
	Sometimes you have to adjust budgets.	02:13:33
	Sometimes you don't spend all the money. Sometimes you have other needs where there's more bigger needs than.	02:13:35
	Than what you had originally budgeted.	02:13:40
	But all those different types of things are.	02:13:43
	Adjusted as you come back.	02:13:45
	And revisit the budget throughout the year.	02:13:47
	In the pension world, it's not a.	02:13:50
	Month to month thing.	02:13:53
	It's really year to year.	02:13:55
	And it's over a much longer duration.	02:13:57
	Because you're we're talking, we manage pensions over a.	02:14:00
	20304050 year.	02:14:03
	Time frame or even more.	02:14:05
	Because from the time of.	02:14:07
	A officer may come, a deputy may start in this plan.	02:14:09
	They might be 20 something years old.	02:14:13
	And they may live to be.	02:14:16
	8090.	02:14:18
	Right. So that's a long time frame that you have to manage the liability.	02:14:19
	Or one of those.	02:14:24
	Individuals, uh.	02:14:26
	Would you advance that for me?	02:14:29
	Thank you.	02:14:30
	So, umm.	02:14:32
	As we look at this, if we look at that, the.	02:14:34
	This is a breakout that.	02:14:37
	Kind of shows.	02:14:39
	There are certain line items that we break.	02:14:41
	Out.	02:14:44
	That help?	02:14:44
	Try to explain the change.	02:14:45
	On the contribution rate.	02:14:47
	And the change on the pension?	02:14:50
	Funded status.	02:14:52
	So if we look up at the top.	02:14:54
	There's the asset experience. The asset experience is the investment returns that we.	02:14:57
	We've had.	02:15:01
	The last three years have been, you know, about double digit.	02:15:02
	Investment returns and that's above.	02:15:06
	What the actuaries are expecting of?	02:15:08
	2%.	02:15:11
	So the.	02:15:12
	The amount of the investment returns up.	02:15:13
	Above the 7.2%.	02:15:15
	Is an actuarial gain.	02:15:18
	And so that's we're doing better than expected.	02:15:20
	Right now, if we were less than 7.2%, we could still have.	02:15:23
	Let's say a 5% investment return.	02:15:28
	We still made money.	02:15:31
	But we didn't make as much as what the actuaries were expecting.	02:15:32
	So that's an actuarial loss.	02:15:35
	OK. So we have these actuarial gains and losses doesn't mean necessarily that?	02:15:38
	Lost money on investments?	02:15:44
	But we may have made either more or less than what the actuaries were expecting.	02:15:46
	So because that.	02:15:51
	Is more faith we advertise those over A7 year period of time.	02:15:53
	And cumulatively those are helping.	02:15:59
	To we have more gains than losses in that pipeline and we'll talk about that a little bit.	02:16:02
	But that's bringing down.	02:16:07
	Your contribution rate.	02:16:09
	And it's increasing.	02:16:11
	Your funded status.	02:16:12
	The liability experience, that's where the actuaries come in and assess.	02:16:15
	The salary increases.	02:16:20
	And they compare them to whether those salary increases are higher.	02:16:22
	Or lower than what they expected.	02:16:27
	Now keep in mind when they're doing their actuarial evaluations, they're looking at things over longer periods of time. They're	02:16:30
	not looking at it from year to year.	02:16:33
	But every five years we come back in and do an experience study.	02:16:38
	And we check to make sure that the assumptions are.	02:16:43
	Roughly, uh.	02:16:46
	Tracking.	02:16:47
	Approximately with what we need to be doing.	02:16:49
	And we've got another experience study that will be coming up.	02:16:52
	And this next year in 2027.	02:16:55
	As we after the 26 valuation.	02:16:58
	That we will be looking at to look at those assumptions and see.	02:17:01
	If there are any changes that we should be making?	02:17:04
	To those because it's just like landing the airplane.	02:17:08
	When you're coming into.	02:17:11
	Flying in the airplane is coming into Phoenix.	02:17:13
	They don't come in and just land it from 30,000 feet down to 0.	02:17:17
	I they're on a glide path.	02:17:20
	And they're not always on a perfect glide path. There are turbulence, there are things that they would need to go through. They	02:17:22
	may go around a thunderstorm rather than through it.	02:17:26
	Right, so as they.	02:17:30
	Do that they need to course correct and.	02:17:32
	And get back on it.	02:17:35
	The path path.	02:17:36
	That they need to be on.	02:17:38
	To safely land the plane.	02:17:39
	That's essentially the same concept that the actuaries are doing as they go through this.	02:17:41
	The other ones here quickly additional contributions.	02:17:46
	You have those. In previous years you didn't have any. This year assumption method changes.	02:17:50
	There was anything there that.	02:17:55
	Affected you?	02:17:57
	And then there's the the compensation limit update.	02:17:58
	That was really on Tier 3.	02:18:02
	Didn't affect your tears 12.	02:18:04
	Then we get to the other category.	02:18:06
	And the other category is.	02:18:08
	It decreased upon the status about 3.7%.	02:18:10
	And it literally is, and there's a description on the right there, but.	02:18:14
	It literally is.	02:18:18
	Everything else all the other assum.	02:18:20
	If people are living longer.	02:18:23
	Than they are expected to live.	02:18:25
	That's an assumption change.	02:18:28
	So let's go into the next slide.	02:18:30
	And in the next slide, we're going to look at a few of those things that are.	02:18:34
	Maybe part of that?	02:18:38
	Other category.	02:18:40
	A little bit this part of.	02:18:42
	The salary increase as well.	02:18:44
	If you look at the active line, look at the average salary.	02:18:46
	It went from.	02:18:50
	3090 three 1965 for tiers 1 and 2 to 92,766.	02:18:51
	So it actually went down.	02:19:00
	Well, it went down because if you look up in the top.	02:19:02
	You have two less.	02:19:05
	Active employees there.	02:19:06
	Than what you had the previous year.	02:19:08
	So some of those probably left the organization, either retired or otherwise.	02:19:10
	Right. So probably we're higher salaried individuals and and and are lower.	02:19:15
	And keep in mind that that annual.	02:19:21
	Average average annual salary is not.	02:19:23
	Just their base.	02:19:27
	It includes overtime.	02:19:29
	And those types of things that are part of the overall.	02:19:31
	Pensionable compensation.	02:19:35
	And what gets reported to us is a.	02:19:37
	The What portion of that salary is pensionable?	02:19:40
	And that's what we get.	02:19:45
	And that's what we calculate things on as pensionable compensation.	02:19:46
	It could be.	02:19:50
	Salary increases that you gave to the base salary.	02:19:51
	Could be overtime, et cetera, but.	02:19:54
	But all of that is part of the.	02:19:56
	Salary increase.	02:19:58
	If you look at the actives on the transfer.	02:20:00
	This is where probably one of the factors. I wouldn't even say that it's the biggest one, but it is.	02:20:03
	One that is contributing to that other category.	02:20:08
	You look at the average salary that 72,992 last year.	02:20:13
	It went up to 81,535.	02:20:18
	You went from 2.	02:20:21
	Actives that have transferred from other organizations to.	02:20:23
	Now when a person transfers to you.	02:20:28
	The liability that existed with those previous employers is paid by those employers.	02:20:32
	But you can get a portion of the liability.	02:20:38
	For those prior years.	02:20:43
	If you give them a salary increase that's higher than their average salary.	02:20:44
	That they earned previously.	02:20:51
	Then that's going to increase their average salary. For those I'll just use.	02:20:53
	In my example as I talked about before.	02:20:59
	If they had earned 15 years of service with somebody else.	02:21:01
	Now they're coming in to work for you.	02:21:05
	If you increase their.	02:21:08
	Salary of this Houston round numbers if it went up by.	02:21:10
	$15,000.	02:21:14
	And that happened to increase their average salary by $1000.	02:21:16
	Per year.	02:21:20
	OK, of that.	02:21:22
	For $1000 for the average salary.	02:21:23
	Then that $1000 for those 15 years of service.	02:21:26
	Would increase your liability.	02:21:29
	OK, so because you gave them that.	02:21:32
	Pay increase. It wasn't.	02:21:35
	Previous employers that created that liability it was your pay increase it.	02:21:36
	Across that average.	02:21:41
	Overall, so that can have a impact.	02:21:43
	It's not going to be humongous because if you gave them a $15,000 salary increase.	02:21:47
	And it happened to increase their average salary by $1000.	02:21:53
	There's only $1000 of their average salary.	02:21:57
	Right. So their average salary was $72,000 and even if it were $1000 increase.	02:22:00
	It's not going to be huge, but it will be something.	02:22:07
	You also have if you go to the next slide.	02:22:10
	You have in here, if you look specifically at the beneficiaries and the disabled retirees.	02:22:13
	If you notice.	02:22:21
	You had five last year.	02:22:22
	Beneficiaries and you still have 5.	02:22:24
	You had three disabled retirees. You still have 3.	02:22:26
	And I can tell they're the exact same.	02:22:30
	People because they all aged one year.	02:22:32
	More now at 77.6 years of age for the disabilities.	02:22:35
	It's 78.6 this year so everybody just got a year older.	02:22:40
	And there's a cost of living adjustment that came into play there.	02:22:44
	That, uh.	02:22:48
	They got a little bit of an increase.	02:22:49
	So.	02:22:52
	The key there is is that.	02:22:53
	People. The actuaries will use a table for how long people live.	02:22:55
	And that's what they will use to calculate the.	02:23:00
	The benefit and how long people are going to live.	02:23:03
	The concept though is is.	02:23:06
	The longer we live.	02:23:08
	The greater the expectation is that we can actually.	02:23:11
	Live to be longer.	02:23:14
	For example.	02:23:16
	If the average lifespan is made for me, I believe it's about 86 years old.	02:23:18
	OK Umm. Uh.	02:23:23
	Under the actuarial tables.	02:23:25
	But the older I get, the chances of me actually making it to 86 get higher and higher.	02:23:27
	The fact that the chances that I get to 90.	02:23:33
	Are going to be higher and higher.	02:23:36
	Because I've already lived through all the possibilities that would have killed me by now.	02:23:37
	Right. So as we go through some of those things that there are some things that start to pick up.	02:23:42
	A liability.	02:23:48
	Because the older people get that means that they are going to be collecting.	02:23:50
	Those benefits?	02:23:55
	Longer.	02:23:56
	If they collect the benefits.	02:23:57
	Longer, uh.	02:23:59
	Then the actuaries need to adjust their estimates for how long they're.	02:24:00
	Be receiving those benefits.	02:24:04
	And those categories are not the only categories, but I just.	02:24:07
	Focused on those because that can.	02:24:10
	Accentuate that point.	02:24:12
	Of how that.	02:24:14
	Happens.	02:24:15
	Now you want success for individuals. You want them to live a good happy life in retirement, right?	02:24:16
	But the longer they live.	02:24:22
	The more it's going to cost you.	02:24:24
	OK. Next slide.	02:24:26
	This is a slide that I put together.	02:24:29
	Really compares you to all the other county sheriffs.	02:24:31
	Offices through the state.	02:24:35
	If you look to the far right.	02:24:38
	There's increases and decreases there.	02:24:40
	In that it doesn't quite.	02:24:43
	Show everything there.	02:24:46
	Can you get the whole slide on there?	02:24:49
	This is the best you can get. OK?	02:24:51
	So, uh.	02:24:53
	But if you look at the increases there, I'll pick on Maricopa County is 6.3%.	02:24:55
	There is Cochise County was 5.9%.	02:25:02
	But everybody that increased.	02:25:06
	5% or more from the previous year.	02:25:08
	Also paid additional contributions.	02:25:12
	In that year.	02:25:15
	So the thing that made them increase their.	02:25:17
	Under status more significantly than everybody else on the list.	02:25:20
	Was that they made additional contributions.	02:25:25
	To put in additional dollars beyond just what the actuaries assumed.	02:25:28
	Now the other thing is I put on here is some.	02:25:34
	I put on Payson and Globe because there are communities within.	02:25:37
	County but also page in Camp Verde because they were had situations that were somewhat.	02:25:42
	Similar to yours.	02:25:48
	If you look the.	02:25:50
	Page decreased 3.9%. Camp Verde was.	02:25:52
	Decreased 6%.	02:25:56
	In both of their situations.	02:25:58
	They they vacillated more than you did.	02:26:00
	But in their situations, it was also mostly this other category.	02:26:06
	Because these adjustments.	02:26:11
	And it's just.	02:26:13
	Everything else taken collectively.	02:26:14
	Now sometimes.	02:26:18
	The what makes all of those things happen is that.	02:26:19
	Everything is moving together in the same direction.	02:26:23
	You might. It's.	02:26:27
	What happens is if you have a little bit of change.	02:26:29
	In a lot of different factors.	02:26:34
	And they're all moving in the same direction. They can add up to something.	02:26:36
	To be a bigger number.	02:26:39
	Than if they're offsetting each other, some are going this direction, some are going that direction.	02:26:41
	So it just sometimes it's a question of just.	02:26:45
	How those things workout in a given year.	02:26:49
	But you can see that there are other categories and other officers there.	02:26:52
	Offices. Sheriff offices.	02:26:56
	That they were going up.	02:26:59
	Or down or in different directions.	02:27:00
	But the key is.	02:27:03
	That I think Apache County was 0.0. They weren't actually zero, it still changed a little bit.	02:27:05
	It's just not as much as everybody else.	02:27:13
	But uh.	02:27:15
	A pension is never a set it and forget it thing.	02:27:17
	It's always going to be some degree of.	02:27:19
	Volatility and change.	02:27:22
	From those assumptions and estimates.	02:27:24
	Because life.	02:27:28
	Always turns out different.	02:27:28
	Than what we plan.	02:27:30
	Next slide.	02:27:31
	Are we stuck?	02:27:40
	Just thinking.	02:27:43
	There we go.	02:27:48
	Thank you.	02:27:49
	So real quick, this is your contribution rates, this is what some of the and I'll tie that.	02:27:50
	To a couple things if you look the normal cost up here.	02:27:58
	The normal cost area.	02:28:02
	That's the nine point.	02:28:04
	One 3% is the net normal cost.	02:28:05
	Which is the 16.78% of the normal cost. That's what the actuaries are.	02:28:08
	Projecting for the future.	02:28:13
	Benefits that are going to be earned by officers.	02:28:16
	As they work in the future.	02:28:19
	Is what that represents, and that's by far the vast majority of your contribution.	02:28:21
	If you take the normal cost.	02:28:26
	The actuaries actually calculate.	02:28:27
	That normal cost to be 300 and 2520.	02:28:30
	And that's just an estimate.	02:28:34
	They divide that by.	02:28:36
	Your underlying payroll, that one million 789.	02:28:37
	At the bottom.	02:28:41
	Of the page right there.	02:28:42
	And they get 16.78%. That becomes the percentage.	02:28:44
	Subtract out the employee portion of the cost and then that gives you the employer.	02:28:48
	Portion.	02:28:53
	And then you have your unfunded liability will.	02:28:54
	Get to the the.	02:28:57
	The the 19.	02:29:00
	652.	02:29:02
	Divided by.	02:29:03
	The payroll at the end is 1.09.	02:29:05
	Now keep in mind your payroll could change.	02:29:08
	On July this.	02:29:10
	First or second?	02:29:12
	This is just the payroll snapshot as of June 30th.	02:29:13
	And again the.	02:29:16
	The actuarial.	02:29:17
	Valuations are intended to be.	02:29:21
	Directionally correct.	02:29:23
	They're intended to be a glide path that's going to get you.	02:29:25
	Generally in the direction of where you need to be.	02:29:28
	Over the next 20-30 forty 50 years.	02:29:31
	OK, it's not intended to get you exactly to where you're going to be.	02:29:34
	A year from now.	02:29:38
	Next slide.	02:29:40
	This is the amortization of the unfunded liability.	02:29:42
	The total of that is 375,000. Like it?	02:29:47
	Was on the other page.	02:29:50
	And if you and what the actuary actually does is.	02:29:52
	The board adopted.	02:29:56
	That this is advertised over a 15 year.	02:29:58
	Layered, uh.	02:30:01
	Amortization.	02:30:02
	Now at one point in time it was a 15 year open amortization where?	02:30:04
	Whatever the liability is, is just amortized over 15 years.	02:30:09
	Then the next year they take whatever the liability is and they advertise over the 15 years.	02:30:13
	ETC.	02:30:18
	So in that case you never really fully get.	02:30:19
	To having the thing taken care of.	02:30:23
	When they went to a 15 year layer amortization, it takes each year's.	02:30:26
	New liability?	02:30:30
	Or in the case of your older years where you have your overfunded.	02:30:32
	It still advertises.	02:30:36
	Each one of those pieces independently.	02:30:38
	And it works itself down to 0.	02:30:40
	So that ultimately.	02:30:43
	That liability will be taken.	02:30:44
	But that doesn't mean that you can't have.	02:30:46
	A new liability created in the future or have.	02:30:49
	A gain, if you will, where you no longer have an unfunded liability.	02:30:53
	In the future.	02:30:57
	And each one of those pieces are going to be amortized over a 15 year period.	02:30:58
	So that your contribution rates don't.	02:31:03
	Go up and down in a volatile manner.	02:31:05
	OK. Which really impacts your budget?	02:31:08
	So the next one.	02:31:12
	This is a slide that really shows the investment.	02:31:14
	Returns.	02:31:18
	And the gains and losses up in B.	02:31:20
	This is.	02:31:23
	All of your.	02:31:23
	Your assets.	02:31:25
	Are shown over here in the Employer column.	02:31:26
	And the total is all of PSPRS tiers.	02:31:29
	One and two.	02:31:34
	OK. So that's the total.	02:31:35
	For PSPRS, that's.	02:31:38
	Invest it.	02:31:41
	And then the.	02:31:42
	Up above, there are the gains and losses.	02:31:43
	Year by year.	02:31:47
	Of the experience and it and it's.	02:31:48
	Hammer is essentially spread over.	02:31:51
	A7 year period of time.	02:31:53
	That way.	02:31:55
	Even the investment return gains and losses.	02:31:56
	Cause a lot of volatility to your contribution rates.	02:31:59
	And therefore your budget.	02:32:03
	So you can see that there's some years I'll pick on.	02:32:04
	2021.	02:32:08
	20/21 was our.	02:32:10
	Highest.	02:32:12
	Ever investment returns that we've ever had as a system, we had 27.8% investment returns.	02:32:14
	The next year, the market corrected.	02:32:21
	We lost.	02:32:24
	4.04%.	02:32:25
	Now, we weren't as bad as the S&P 500 or those that lost.	02:32:30
	15 to 17%.	02:32:36
	Because we have a diversified portfolio that protects that downside.	02:32:39
	But we also didn't get as much as the 35% the previous year when the S&P 500 was up.	02:32:43
	So we tend to be more in the middle of those extremes in the market.	02:32:50
	But that protects.	02:32:55
	Or losses for that 4.04%.	02:32:57
	Was a myth.	02:33:01
	The actuaries were expecting 7.2.	02:33:02
	So that's an 11.	02:33:04
	Plus percent miss.	02:33:06
	On an actuarial basis.	02:33:08
	So the next in 2022.	02:33:10
	That's a loss of 204 million.	02:33:13
	Not quite as much as what we had gained the previous year.	02:33:16
	But it's still fairly significant.	02:33:19
	And then you can see the last three years we've had investment.	02:33:21
	Experience.	02:33:25
	That have been in that 10 to 11% range.	02:33:26
	And also the portfolio is larger.	02:33:29
	So those gains tend to be.	02:33:32
	Much higher.	02:33:34
	But if you look.	02:33:35
	Down here in the employer column.	02:33:37
	The actuarial value of assets is because they smooth these.	02:33:39
	Investment return.	02:33:44
	Gains and losses over A7 year period of time.	02:33:46
	The actuarial value.	02:33:49
	They've only recognized 26 point.	02:33:50
	2 million.	02:33:53
	Dollar worth of assets.	02:33:55
	You still have over $1,000,000 in assets in the pipeline.	02:33:58
	In gains.	02:34:03
	Investment gains.	02:34:05
	That are being amortized over the next.	02:34:06
	That are going to help you address.	02:34:11
	Your funded status.	02:34:14
	So as those returns are being recognized on an actuarial basis.	02:34:15
	Over the next six years.	02:34:21
	You can see that funded status started to come back.	02:34:23
	Absent any other changes in any other assumptions.	02:34:27
	Forward, right.	02:34:31
	Because we don't know for sure what inflation is going to be and all the other assumptions.	02:34:33
	But that's a key part to know that you've got a little over $1,000,000.	02:34:39
	Wind at your back.	02:34:44
	In helping with this.	02:34:45
	Next slide.	02:34:47
	This is just a slide comparing you to where.	02:34:49
	All the other plans are for.	02:34:52
	PSPRS.	02:34:55
	Last year you were in the 100 to 110%.	02:34:57
	Area there for the Gila County Sheriff.	02:35:00
	This year, you're in your.	02:35:03
	Part of the 69 employers that are in the 90 to 100%.	02:35:05
	You're more towards the top end of that range.	02:35:09
	But that's.	02:35:12
	Normal, uh.	02:35:13
	To be able to vacillate and move like we had on that chart.	02:35:14
	Showed all the other county sheriff's.	02:35:18
	And those four other cities.	02:35:20
	It's very reasonable to see something that's going to move.	02:35:23
	From.	02:35:27
	You know, 3 to 6.	02:35:28
	10% in that range and that can go up or down.	02:35:30
	With all of these.	02:35:35
	Differences, uh.	02:35:36
	From what the assumptions are?	02:35:37
	Next slide.	02:35:39
	This is just a page in the contribution. You need to probably look at your funding objectives. One of the things that I would	02:35:42
	encourage you to do is look at your funding objective. I don't know.	02:35:46
	How your funding objective is specifically written.	02:35:51
	But and we could look at that and help you with that, and that's what I'm here for.	02:35:55
	But as you look at your funding objective, if you needed to get to 100% right away, if that was your pleasure.	02:36:00
	Then what you would need to do is take care of that 300.	02:36:07
	This really looks at.	02:36:10
	What would an additional contribution that June 30 of 25?	02:36:12
	Have been and what difference would it make to your funded status and your contribution rate?	02:36:16
	Obviously, if you're $375,000 unfunded liability.	02:36:22
	If you contribute 300.	02:36:26
	$1000 it wouldn't.	02:36:28
	White get you to 100%.	02:36:30
	And so you would still have an unfunded liability a little bit more than the normal cost.	02:36:32
	If it were a little bit more than that at 400 million.	02:36:37
	Then you would be less than that. It would decrease that contribution rate.	02:36:41
	And you'd be overfunded.	02:36:45
	Next slide.	02:36:47
	And that's really all I had. I wanted to just get through some.	02:36:50
	Key concepts and kind of hit some of those points that.	02:36:53
	We're going to talk about.	02:36:57
	Your question on what got you and what would that change was?	02:36:59
	And kind of put that in perspective with other plans around.	02:37:04
	So that you can kind of understand those dynamics, but happy to.	02:37:08
	Thank you for that. I think we got it.	02:37:13
	I I have no question. Thank you for explaining that, you know.	02:37:15
	When you.	02:37:20
	Don't look at it as a bigger picture as you have explained.	02:37:21
	It can be kind of difficult to.	02:37:25
	To understand but.	02:37:27
	But uh.	02:37:28
	You gave us a lot of examples and a lot of information.	02:37:29
	That I didn't have before.	02:37:33
	So thank you.	02:37:35
	So I didn't get it.	02:37:39
	I'll be straight up with you.	02:37:40
	I still, you know, when you look at our unfunded part of it or what was it, 500,000?	02:37:42
	Yeah, right now. So my question is 375,000 OK, 375.	02:37:47
	So my question would be to you.	02:37:52
	From a county standpoint, where we sit right now.	02:37:54
	Is it better to to hold with that and write this out since everything is based on?	02:37:58
	What if?	02:38:04
	Out here.	02:38:04
	Or should we throw some money into it and get closer to where we need to be?	02:38:06
	That's that's the bottom line in my I.	02:38:12
	Eyes. Umm.	02:38:15
	And I'll give you this, it'll seem to be a politically correct answer or whatever else, a bureaucratic answer and I'd be tested	02:38:18
	bureaucracy by the way going.	02:38:23
	Very fun, but.	02:38:28
	It really does depend upon what you want to do.	02:38:30
	If you want to always be.	02:38:33
	If this were our own retirement.	02:38:36
	I was saving for my retirement.	02:38:39
	I may not be exactly at the end of this calendar year exactly where I thought my.	02:38:41
	Retirement savings are going to be.	02:38:46
	Because the market may have.	02:38:48
	You loaded that a little bit or whatever else.	02:38:50
	But I'm going to look at it and say.	02:38:53
	Am I kind of close to where I want to be?	02:38:55
	If I'm not close enough.	02:38:58
	And I want to put more money in.	02:38:59
	Well then I can do that.	02:39:01
	But if I'm generally in the ballpark.	02:39:04
	And and and kind of like the airplane is never exactly on.	02:39:06
	On a very specific.	02:39:11
	To the.	02:39:13
	Inch Altitude.	02:39:14
	On where it is going to be, there's some degree of.	02:39:15
	Of volatility there.	02:39:18
	This acceptable?	02:39:20
	And I think that you guys are really.	02:39:21
	Have done a lot of good things, you should be commended.	02:39:24
	For what you've done.	02:39:27
	To try to.	02:39:28
	Make those improvements.	02:39:30
	It will really pay off for your taxpayers going forward.	02:39:31
	If I will tell you though, if I were.	02:39:35
	You and I can't tell you what to do. It's got to be what works for you and your citizens and taxpayers and.	02:39:38
	How you balance your budget and everything else.	02:39:43
	If you want to always be 100% and you just want to get it back there, that's great.	02:39:46
	But you've got $1,000,000 in the pipeline and this is 375.	02:39:51
	I would maybe take a little bit of a wait and see attitude and say.	02:39:56
	This is OK.	02:39:59
	But you do have to look at your funding objective.	02:40:00
	Because the law says that.	02:40:02
	If you have an unfunded liability.	02:40:05
	You have to say.	02:40:07
	What's my plan to get to 100%?	02:40:09
	So and because you've adopted A funding objective.	02:40:12
	Policy. Uh.	02:40:16
	To on on what that is.	02:40:17
	If your policy says we're always going to be at 100%, we don't want this to slip.	02:40:20
	Well, then you've really got to adhere to that policy.	02:40:25
	But you can provide some flexibility in your policy.	02:40:28
	You can have a policy that is saying.	02:40:31
	Look, our, we're going to look at this and we're going to say.	02:40:34
	If it goes below 100%, we're going to take a look. We're going to look at.	02:40:38
	What gains are in the pipelines? What does the future look like? We're going to look a lot of a bunch of factors.	02:40:42
	And say it doesn't make sense for us to put more money in or not.	02:40:48
	We're also going to look at our budget situation.	02:40:52
	We're going to look at what the future holds.	02:40:54
	Because you can take if you have some one time cash that you need, you want to.	02:40:58
	Do some things with.	02:41:03
	You need to look at.	02:41:04
	What do you do with that cash?	02:41:05
	Is it sitting in?	02:41:07
	An account earning maybe?	02:41:09
	You know, 2% or 3%.	02:41:11
	Investment returns.	02:41:13
	Or is it something that you want to?	02:41:15
	But towards long term work.	02:41:17
	With PSPRS where?	02:41:19
	We get on average about 7.2%.	02:41:21
	Whether it's a.	02:41:24
	+27.8% one year or a negative.	02:41:25
	4.04% another year.	02:41:29
	We don't invest.	02:41:32
	For a year, we invest for.	02:41:33
	A long period of time.	02:41:36
	Right. So it's just.	02:41:37
	What you want to do?	02:41:39
	You may want to take a look at it and say.	02:41:40
	I'm going to take care of part of that issue this year, but not all of it.	02:41:43
	Right. So really that's something that in the study session or in another one?	02:41:47
	You can have a discussion about. I'm certainly willing to give you thoughts.	02:41:52
	It's not going to cost you anything.	02:41:57
	And you can.	02:41:59
	Completely ignore anything that I tell you and do what you want anyway.	02:42:00
	And so.	02:42:03
	All of that's fair game, but.	02:42:04
	Certainly I'm here to help you.	02:42:06
	And whatever I can OfferUp for insights that.	02:42:08
	For you to.	02:42:11
	Make good, informed decisions.	02:42:12
	That you can be comfortable with.	02:42:15
	That are good for your citizens. That's what we're here to do.	02:42:17
	So thank you for all that.	02:42:20
	You know, I, I.	02:42:22
	You know, once.	02:42:25
	Quite a few years ago. Quite a long time ago.	02:42:26
	I was in the stock market and playing with some stock too. And you know, you watch it, you go, it does this thing.	02:42:29
	Well, that sets an uneasy feeling with me.	02:42:36
	That's why when I look at this.	02:42:39
	I'm thinking no, we're down.	02:42:41
	34.	02:42:43
	$1000 whatever it is.	02:42:44
	So if we wait it out.	02:42:47
	Were basically rolling the dice on everything changing around and getting good out here.	02:42:48
	To bring our.	02:42:54
	Our money back up.	02:42:55
	Or looking at the world today.	02:42:56
	Are we going to go the other way?	02:43:00
	And so that's that's where the hold up with me.	02:43:02
	Comes from.	02:43:05
	And the fact that we worked really hard to get us to the.	02:43:07
	100% mark.	02:43:10
	And, Mr. Chairman?	02:43:11
	Board member.	02:43:14
	Klein.	02:43:15
	Supervisor client. As you look at that, one of the things you would want to look at is investment returns are an easy target to	02:43:16
	focus on.	02:43:20
	But the investment returns are only one small piece of the overall. That's scary. Just just make sure that you keep that.	02:43:24
	You know, in a healthy balance as you go through that.	02:43:31
	Because, uh.	02:43:33
	If you look at our investment returns and they've been all over the map.	02:43:34
	The investment returns aren't the thing that.	02:43:38
	That drove things negative.	02:43:41
	And it's not the IT.	02:43:43
	It may be contributed to some of that with some investments and things like that.	02:43:44
	But it's also about.	02:43:49
	Things have worked out.	02:43:51
	Favorable as well.	02:43:52
	For example, there was an investment that we had originally made in real estate back in.	02:43:54
	The early 2000s.	02:43:59
	And that during the real estate crisis.	02:44:01
	The market fell out.	02:44:05
	On that big time.	02:44:06
	And the value of that property went down significantly.	02:44:09
	So we have to market, so we have to write down that investment.	02:44:12
	Recognize a loss on that investment.	02:44:16
	From the accounting perspective.	02:44:19
	Right. But we held on to that investment.	02:44:20
	And when we ultimately sold that investment, we actually made.	02:44:25
	It took a lot longer to get there.	02:44:29
	But because.	02:44:33
	Again, we have a long term horizon.	02:44:34
	From an investment perspective, not a short term horizon.	02:44:36
	You know, and so we have to make sure that we have liquidity to be able to pay the pension benefits.	02:44:40
	Because that's what the retirees.	02:44:46
	Right. And we have to make sure that we've got the liquidity to do that, both from the money coming in from employers and the	02:44:47
	investment returns and all the funding sources.	02:44:52
	But as we look at that.	02:44:57
	The investment side is a key factor.	02:44:59
	Especially when you look at.	02:45:02
	The $1,000,000 that you've got with the wind at your back now because of the.	02:45:04
	Investment returns lately.	02:45:08
	That have been.	02:45:10
	But it's not the biggest factor.	02:45:12
	The bigger factors are.	02:45:14
	The some of the big things that have taken your your.	02:45:16
	From about 107% down to this 98%, he wrote of that.	02:45:20
	The biggest factor had been.	02:45:25
	A lot of the different salary increases.	02:45:27
	Inflation.	02:45:30
	And some of those factors.	02:45:32
	That the actuaries assume and.	02:45:34
	They don't have a crystal ball any better than you or I.	02:45:36
	Right, right. But.	02:45:39
	They look at the things and say this is what we're forecasting.	02:45:41
	And then if reality.	02:45:45
	If I'm going down the road and it can be a.	02:45:48
	Long straight Rd. but if I don't steer the wheel.	02:45:51
	I'm going to drift one way or the other.	02:45:55
	And I've got a course correct.	02:45:58
	Right, and the longer I go without course correcting.	02:45:59
	I better not be in the ditch before I finally course correct.	02:46:03
	Right, so.	02:46:05
	It is good to kind of.	02:46:07
	You know, take those little things and not let it get too far off course.	02:46:10
	But my recommendation to you right now would be I would kind of wait and see.	02:46:15
	What the June 3026 valuation holds.	02:46:20
	Coming up, because you do have.	02:46:23
	You've got a couple of things at play. You've got the $375,000.	02:46:25
	Unfunded liability.	02:46:30
	But you know you've got this $1,000,000 that's going to be coming and helping you through that.	02:46:31
	Now we could have a downturn in the market.	02:46:37
	We've had a couple of those doozies this year, right? I mean, if you don't, I have to go back to March 31st.	02:46:40
	The market was down.	02:46:46
	Huge. Now we don't have all of our money in the market.	02:46:47
	We've got it in a diversified portfolio.	02:46:51
	But there's about 25% of it.	02:46:53
	That's in the market, right And.	02:46:55
	Different types of companies the.	02:46:58
	Diversify in and of itself there.	02:47:00
	But overall?	02:47:02
	We can't control the market.	02:47:04
	Any more than you can control the mark, right?	02:47:06
	We control our performance.	02:47:08
	Relative to the market as a whole.	02:47:11
	So we try to control where do we position ourselves relative.	02:47:15
	To the whole market.	02:47:19
	And that type of thing.	02:47:21
	But again.	02:47:22
	I think that there's a lot of other factors and we.	02:47:23
	Have don't have the time to do that today.	02:47:26
	If you want, we could potentially try to provide.	02:47:29
	At you with some additional information I just lean on.	02:47:32
	I'm doing everything today or not.	02:47:35
	Thank you for all that.	02:47:39
	You're welcome.	02:47:40
	Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Partridge.	02:47:41
	I got a couple things out of your presentation.	02:47:45
	Which was very good, very thorough.	02:47:48
	More numbers than I've ever seen.	02:47:50
	Sorry, OK.	02:47:52
	And what I seem to understand is that.	02:47:55
	You're saying that we are already?	02:47:58
	Funded, uh.	02:48:00
	Beyond.	02:48:01
	The 100%.	02:48:02
	Well, we have $1,000,000 market value.	02:48:04
	If you look at the market value of assets as of June 3025, what they were in the market at that point? Yeah.	02:48:08
	You have.	02:48:14
	You are over 100% fun.	02:48:15
	You went from 103% the previous year on a market value 2%.	02:48:17
	So it did go down.	02:48:23
	But it didn't go down nearly as much as the actuarial, right?	02:48:24
	So we can write out this.	02:48:27
	See what we were concerned about and I sort of halfway remember.	02:48:29
	Is that we were $500,000 in.	02:48:33
	Excess and then we shifted on about $800,000 just negative.	02:48:36
	And so which left us with 370.	02:48:42
	Whatever that we.	02:48:45
	So we just need to wait that out.	02:48:46
	The other message I got from you is that there's probably no way.	02:48:48
	That we can really anticipate.	02:48:51
	What the actuarial is going to present?	02:48:54
	Year after year.	02:48:56
	Is so complicated that we can't just say, you know, should we pay some more this year? We don't know.	02:48:58
	So it's almost.	02:49:04
	Better to just wait and see.	02:49:05
	It depends again if you like my garden. My example driving down the road.	02:49:08
	There may get to be where you're drifting.	02:49:14
	A little bit.	02:49:17
	Yeah, but do we know? And then you start to go through and you can say, hey, you know what, I need the course, correct?	02:49:18
	I don't know where I'm going to be 5 miles down the road.	02:49:24
	But I do know in the next 200 feet I need to start course correcting.	02:49:27
	Back to where I need to be.	02:49:31
	OK. And is that something that we monitor this drifting?	02:49:32
	Metaphor. Umm.	02:49:36
	OK. So annually.	02:49:39
	Yes, we.	02:49:40
	We course it seems like it takes. That's very often.	02:49:41
	But keep in mind that.	02:49:45
	And when you adopt, adopt A budget for a year.	02:49:47
	Yeah, You don't even really know kind of sort of how you're doing in the air until you're about 3 or 4 months into the.	02:49:50
	Year so you only have about.	02:49:57
	Right. You know.	02:49:58
	8 maybe chances to correct your budget by.	02:49:59
	Before the end of the year.	02:50:03
	This you have.	02:50:05
	It's once a year.	02:50:06
	But again, you're looking at over it's, it's more of a glacial pace.	02:50:07
	Like a glacier, it's.	02:50:11
	20304050 years.	02:50:12
	So don't.	02:50:14
	You, you. You don't want to overreact.	02:50:17
	Too soon, but you also don't want to delay.	02:50:20
	Action to walk.	02:50:23
	Use time as your friend, not as your fault.	02:50:26
	Right, so.	02:50:29
	It is one of those.	02:50:30
	Managing and balancing acts that you have to do.	02:50:31
	But again, if if you were to invest.	02:50:34
	If you had 300, you had $26.2 million.	02:50:38
	If you had $375,000 more, you'd have 26.	02:50:43
	Almost 6, a little less than 6.	02:50:48
	Those $2.00 amounts being invested.	02:50:51
	And they get their investment return.	02:50:55
	They're going to get you a proximately.	02:50:57
	The same investment.	02:50:58
	Terms, it's not going to be significantly different.	02:51:00
	What you don't want that is.	02:51:03
	Curate so much.	02:51:04
	It becomes bigger.	02:51:06
	And now all of a sudden you have lost.	02:51:08
	Investment return opportunities.	02:51:10
	You have to make up with additional contributions.	02:51:13
	Yeah, right.	02:51:16
	Because the contributions are going to be additional budget dollars that you've got to put in.	02:51:18
	So sometimes you might want to put in.	02:51:24
	A little bit more dollars now in additional contributions.	02:51:26
	Get the higher investment returns.	02:51:30
	And have.	02:51:31
	Long term.	02:51:33
	The lowest possible total contributions from your budget.	02:51:34
	That you need OK.	02:51:38
	OK.	02:51:41
	Pretty clear. So anything else?	02:51:44
	I'm good.	02:51:48
	I don't have anything else. I appreciate the presentation.	02:51:50
	You're welcome. Thank you very much. Thank you.	02:51:53
	We need you. We'll call you.	02:51:55
	OK. Thank you very much.	02:51:56
	Thank you.	02:51:59
	All right, well, if there's nothing else, then we're jury.	02:51:59

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	We have reached the 10:00 hour.	00:00:00
	Welcome everyone.	00:00:03
	We'll get started here. I have.	00:00:04
	I've asked Macy to lead us in our pledge and after that?	00:00:07
	Our invitation is Pastor Lance.	00:00:11
	Marble which I think.	00:00:13
	Yes, Sir. All right. So right after the pledge.	00:00:15
	If you would stand.	00:00:18
	I pledge allegiance to the flag.	00:00:23
	Of the United States of America.	00:00:25
	And do the new coverage for which it stands.	00:00:27
	One nation under God.	00:00:31
	Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.	00:00:32
	OK.	00:00:36
	Can we pray?	00:00:41
	Father, thank you for a beautiful.	00:00:42
	Morning in Hilton County.	00:00:45
	Thank you for many blessings.	00:00:47
	Provide to us the opportunities that you grant us.	00:00:50
	We thank you this morning for.	00:00:54
	The opportunity for the supervisors to meet to use their.	00:00:56
	Gotta do an abilities.	00:01:00
	And to contemplate, to make wise decisions.	00:01:02
	We pray, Father, that you would.	00:01:05
	That be with them in those decisions.	00:01:08
	They would be.	00:01:10
	That benefit the most people in our county.	00:01:12
	That would.	00:01:15
	Also Father.	00:01:16
	Feet within your will.	00:01:18
	And give them discernment.	00:01:20
	Wisdom in this meeting works through your Sunday break.	00:01:22
	Ma'am, thank you.	00:01:24
	Seated.	00:01:27
	All right. Thank you.	00:01:29
	Great job.	00:01:32
	Well, this morning we're going to start off.	00:01:37
	The presentation.	00:01:39
	Item 2A is a presentation by the town of Payson.	00:01:41
	Related to annual funding.	00:01:46
	For the Beeline bus transit.	00:01:47
	System, uh.	00:01:49
	And we have James Menlove and Julie Leonard.	00:01:51
	Hi, good morning.	00:01:57
	All right, well.	00:02:05
	Thank you for having us and.	00:02:07
	Decided to talk about the Beeline bus if you'd come through.	00:02:09
	Payson or Star Valley, you probably see it going around town throughout the day.	00:02:12
	So.	00:02:21
	The Town of Peason began operating the Beeline bus in January of 2023.	00:02:22
	In August of last year, we were able to apply for an additional bus to replace our aging buses and.	00:02:29
	Fleet. So we recently paid for that bus and expect a delivery of a.	00:02:38
	US December or January of this year.	00:02:44
	And that is a grant through ADOT.	00:02:48
	And the town picks.	00:02:51
	Up the 23,000 press is picked up by a dot.	00:02:53
	And for that?	00:02:57
	New bus, so of course.	00:02:59
	Adding a new bus always helps us with.	00:03:01
	Paying for all the repairs on our older buses.	00:03:04
	Eventually that.	00:03:07
	Definitely saves US money in the long run.	00:03:08
	We did submit our the ADOT grant for the 5311 just recently and that will be the new grant that takes.	00:03:13
	Starts in October of 2026 through September of 2028. The 5311 grant is the ADOT grant.	00:03:23
	That pays for the operations and admin of the buses.	00:03:31
	One of the successful things we've been doing for a couple of years.	00:03:37
	Is we have one free ride day a month, it gives people an opportunity to try out the bus.	00:03:42
	Check it out if they've never done it.	00:03:48
	Sometimes people have some apprehension about.	00:03:51
	Getting on a public bus and so that.	00:03:54
	Helps us. We did switch our days from Friday to Wednesday because it was suggested that that would be a good day by our.	00:03:57
	Transit Advisory Committee because it coincides with our.	00:04:05
	Discount at the grocery store.	00:04:08
	Town so.	00:04:11
	Our operations of the Beeline bus.	00:04:13
	Run from.	00:04:17
	6:00 AM.	00:04:18
	To 6:00 PM.	00:04:19
	Monday through Friday.	00:04:21
	We do have two routes in town.	00:04:23
	One, the blue route primarily just goes around Peason most of the day.	00:04:25
	And there are over 50 stops on that route.	00:04:32
	Our most popular stops by far are.	00:04:37
	The the stores, The Walmarts, The Home Depot, Home Depot, Walmart, Safeway bashes.	00:04:40
	All of those stops.	00:04:47
	Of course are very popular.	00:04:49
	As well as up by the hospital.	00:04:50
	Some of the doctor's offices in that.	00:04:53
	We got a ridership in that area too.	00:04:56
	Then on red rock.	00:04:59
	Is sorry not keeping up here.	00:05:01
	Our red route runs.	00:05:05
	Payson, but it also goes into Star Valley.	00:05:07
	Star Valley is actually one of our.	00:05:10
	Pretty popular.	00:05:12
	Routes. We have quite a few writers.	00:05:13
	Get him on it.	00:05:16
	Valley and go into Payson for the day.	00:05:17
	We even see on that route we frequently have some of the young.	00:05:21
	People that maybe live in Star Valley and.	00:05:25
	On their Fridays off or whatever want to get into Payson and.	00:05:27
	Be able to see their friends, go to the parks and that kind of stuff.	00:05:32
	And then the blue route also goes out to Nisa del Caballo, which is.	00:05:36
	The community out off Houston Mesa Rd.	00:05:42
	So we go out there a couple of.	00:05:45
	Times Day 2 to pick up those folks.	00:05:46
	Our staffing for the.	00:05:50
	Bus includes myself.	00:05:52
	That overseas kind of the daily operations and the grant management portion of it.	00:05:56
	We have a full time senior bus driver, a part-time senior bus driver.	00:06:01
	And six part-time bus drivers with.	00:06:06
	A substitute driver to jump in when we need some extra help or somebody takes a vacation day.	00:06:09
	Umm, probably one of the biggest highlights.	00:06:19
	For us has been just the increase in ridership.	00:06:21
	When I probably presented last, I thought maybe we were kind of topping off.	00:06:25
	Of our increase.	00:06:29
	But since we took over in 2023, we've seen 137% increase of bus riders.	00:06:31
	And then this year?	00:06:39
	Where again, I kind of thought we were going to top off a little bit.	00:06:40
	We actually in first quarter of this year are running.	00:06:44
	28% higher than what we were last year in this quarter.	00:06:47
	So one of my bus drivers had recently commented that.	00:06:51
	We really have like a regular ridership people that get on every.	00:06:56
	Work or whatever.	00:07:00
	These days so.	00:07:02
	And those increases?	00:07:04
	Even.	00:07:05
	Occurred before kind of the gas prices went up so participate that may even drive more to our ridership but.	00:07:06
	Our ridership is going strong.	00:07:14
	We ended last year.	00:07:16
	1374 riders.	00:07:19
	When we first took over and.	00:07:22
	When we first took over in 2022, they'd only had 39,000.	00:07:25
	Or 1300 writers so.	00:07:29
	Big increases there.	00:07:31
	I attribute a lot of our successful ridership to be some really great drivers.	00:07:34
	To do a good job.	00:07:39
	Just really provide really good customer service to our riders.	00:07:41
	Fastest big success for.	00:07:47
	Bus as well.	00:07:48
	Um.	00:07:51
	So some of the things that we have.	00:07:54
	Are working on moving forward with SO.	00:07:57
	Again, we just recently submitted for the new grant cycle.	00:08:00
	And in that new grant cycle, we have had some.	00:08:05
	Quests in the community for certain.	00:08:08
	Additions to the bus and so we.	00:08:12
	Move forward with that.	00:08:14
	Last year at some point we've had.	00:08:15
	The Apache Tano community asking if we could.	00:08:19
	Stop up at.	00:08:22
	The casino, the.	00:08:24
	School and fitness center and some other things that they have up there.	00:08:26
	Because it was not in our service area previously on our map.	00:08:31
	With ADOT they told us no.	00:08:36
	And they told us you'll need to include that into your next grant cycle.	00:08:38
	Of course, it's right on the education. You really don't even leave our.	00:08:43
	Community barely to get there right by the Event Center.	00:08:46
	So we think it's a really and A plus a lot of the staff that work up at the casino.	00:08:50
	Are from Payson Star Valley.	00:08:55
	That's where we see the most requests for ridership up there.	00:08:58
	Currently we stop at the Sawmill Theater and.	00:09:02
	They literally would have to walk up that.	00:09:05
	Hill for the rest of the way which?	00:09:07
	Isn't great if you're working in food service or whatever.	00:09:09
	Middle of summer, so.	00:09:13
	We have gotten we have included that and have support from the Apache Tanto community.	00:09:15
	And they are excited about that addition.	00:09:21
	So it doesn't really add a lot of miles to our routes. It'll really should be a good addition.	00:09:25
	We're we've also in the current the next grant cycle there are.	00:09:32
	There is the ability to ask for certain recreation kind of events, pace and holds a lot of events.	00:09:37
	Some of that area is very congested during those events.	00:09:43
	So we will be able to run some bus routes down to those events for drop off and make it a little bit easier.	00:09:47
	For residents, recreation is one of the priorities in the ADOT grant.	00:09:53
	That we can write for.	00:09:58
	In the past year, we've done some additional marketing through Facebook. There's a.	00:10:02
	Slide that has more of those details.	00:10:07
	If you have been in patient and you've seen one of our buses, it's.	00:10:10
	Much prettier now.	00:10:14
	It's not thought of as a.	00:10:16
	Church van going around. It's been wrapped.	00:10:18
	That was a partnership with our Payson Parks and Rec department.	00:10:22
	As well as our tourism part.	00:10:26
	Tourism Department.	00:10:28
	They paid to wrap that bus.	00:10:29
	And it's kind of a traveling billboard as it drives around town and has websites the information on it.	00:10:32
	And it looks a whole lot nicer.	00:10:39
	So, umm.	00:10:41
	We also.	00:10:43
	This has been several years ago, but.	00:10:45
	When the Senior Center was still running the.	00:10:48
	Transportation, umm.	00:10:51
	The they had applied for a Beeline bus improvement project which included.	00:10:52
	Street work on some of our routes as well as bus shelters.	00:10:58
	And that has been completed this year. That's eight new bus shelters.	00:11:03
	As well as worked on Easy St. McLean and Cool Ford.	00:11:07
	In certain areas.	00:11:12
	So those are, that is our bus that is.	00:11:14
	There kind of different sides different.	00:11:19
	Things on the bus.	00:11:22
	One of the parks and rec side and 1 is our tourism side.	00:11:24
	Then we have this.	00:11:30
	Some of the marketing that we did.	00:11:32
	Last year and we do attribute some of our increase in ridership to just better marketing and.	00:11:34
	Helping people understand.	00:11:40
	Many, several years ago.	00:11:42
	The premise because the Senior Center ran the bus and they did a great job, but people thought it was only for seniors.	00:11:45
	That wasn't the case.	00:11:52
	But it was just something that they didn't realize, so that I think we've overcome that.	00:11:53
	We did some specific marketing.	00:11:59
	To students.	00:12:01
	The school we partnered with the school to build to send out some.	00:12:03
	Flyers come May, so when the students were off in the summer.	00:12:07
	They could jump on the bus and get around town. That's junior high and high school students.	00:12:11
	That may not have transportation so.	00:12:17
	Just some of the marketing that we ran kind of a did you know series.	00:12:20
	That helping people to understand.	00:12:24
	The bus a little bit better.	00:12:27
	Knowing that, we get.	00:12:30
	Common questions are, are they wheelchair accessible?	00:12:31
	They are. They're all wheelchair accessible.	00:12:34
	Knowing kind of where they go, some of our highlights, so.	00:12:37
	Again, some of the.	00:12:40
	Marketing and then?	00:12:42
	Our flyer that we used, that we sent home with the families and the.	00:12:45
	With the school we will be.	00:12:51
	Partnering.	00:12:54
	A little more with the school come fall.	00:12:55
	They have had some audit findings that have asked them to reduce their transportation cost.	00:12:59
	There are a couple other towns in Arizona that do this. I know Yuma is one of them.	00:13:04
	So some of their secondary students will actually.	00:13:09
	The school will pay for their bus pass.	00:13:13
	And that the some of the in route.	00:13:16
	In town routes will be cut from the school district. They started this a couple years ago and then backtracked.	00:13:20
	And now they're having to go back there with.	00:13:26
	Some of the information that they've received so they will have the opportunity to get a bus pass and ride our.	00:13:28
	On public general buses.	00:13:36
	During for school as well.	00:13:38
	So, umm.	00:13:41
	Won't be a major change for us. Our buses generally go to most communities.	00:13:42
	So is their transportation director has looked at our buses.	00:13:46
	And bus routes.	00:13:49
	He is not really suggesting anything new.	00:13:51
	Just that they would get on the routes that are already existing around town and we do start at 6:00 AM so we can get.	00:13:53
	Students to school in a timely manner.	00:13:59
	And that hopefully will help some of our families that.	00:14:03
	Losing some of those in in town routes.	00:14:06
	Cause a big challenge for SO.	00:14:09
	Some of the other just notes that I wanted to add that I didn't.	00:14:14
	Having the presentation.	00:14:18
	We did do a survey last year. We do an annual survey.	00:14:20
	Of our writers.	00:14:24
	Some of the just kind of high points of that is that.	00:14:26
	70% of our writers.	00:14:30
	The bus is their sole transportation.	00:14:33
	Um, they use the bus for a multitude of reasons.	00:14:37
	Of course to get to work is one of them. We had 24% that use that bus regularly to get to work.	00:14:43
	Medical appointments, so 29% of our riders.	00:14:50
	Use the bus to get.	00:14:55
	Medical appointments around town.	00:14:57
	13% for shopping and 28% for leisure and.	00:15:00
	Is getting places.	00:15:04
	Our elderly and disabled. But we're finding also it's not just our elderly and disabled.	00:15:07
	Are 57% of our writers are actually under 65 so.	00:15:13
	It's a variety of ages that are using utilizing the bus at this point.	00:15:18
	And many of our about 43% of our riders ride the bus every week.	00:15:27
	And 97% of our writers.	00:15:34
	Said that they would recommend the bus to others and they have a lot of.	00:15:37
	Confidence in our bus.	00:15:41
	So, umm.	00:15:44
	We actually in the last year.	00:15:47
	We have brought down some of our costs, but it's kind of.	00:15:50
	Kind of an interesting way.	00:15:54
	It cost us about.	00:15:56
	Over 300 that little over 300,000 depending on the year to run our bus.	00:15:59
	The challenge is where we're seeing the increases.	00:16:04
	In cost for the bus are in.	00:16:08
	The personnel costs the fuel.	00:16:11
	Repairs those are.	00:16:15
	So in admin we get an 80%.	00:16:18
	Reimbursement rate.	00:16:21
	But in operating, we only get a 58%.	00:16:22
	Reimbursement rate and where our costs are going up are definitely.	00:16:26
	Those operating.	00:16:31
	So even though we actually had gone from in 2023, it cost us 330,000 in 2025 is 309,000.	00:16:34
	It's it's not apples to apples because of that reimbursement rate that ADOT gives you.	00:16:44
	Or the bus so.	00:16:50
	Even though our costs are going down.	00:16:52
	Really the.	00:16:54
	You know what we what it costs to run it is going up.	00:16:55
	So, umm.	00:16:58
	Our priority, we have cut a lot of our expenses, kind of cut anything actually. So our priority is.	00:17:00
	Paying for drivers.	00:17:05
	Fuel the repairs and that's our focus. We've had to cut back on some of the other.	00:17:07
	The.	00:17:13
	Request that we.	00:17:15
	To you guys for the 73,000.	00:17:17
	Is for the operations.	00:17:20
	That local share is covered by the town of Payson.	00:17:22
	Hilo County has been.	00:17:27
	Instrumental in that as well as Star Valley contributes as well.	00:17:29
	To that local share cost so.	00:17:32
	That is what we're here requesting today is that 73,000 for our Beeline bus.	00:17:35
	Operation and I'd be happy to answer any questions.	00:17:40
	Thank you, Julie.	00:17:43
	Yeah, I guess the question I have is.	00:17:45
	It sounds like you're doing a great job and.	00:17:48
	And you went from 3947 riders in 22?	00:17:50
	To 9374 riders.	00:17:54
	And 25.	00:17:57
	How many passengers does your bus hold?	00:17:58
	Our passengers hold.	00:18:02
	Our buses pulled 14 at a time.	00:18:03
	We've only had a few occasions where that's an issue.	00:18:07
	Not very often.	00:18:11
	Because it kind of spans different people ride at different times, sort of our.	00:18:14
	Some of our elderly that rely on it for shopping and things like that, they tend to ride midday and you have some of those that	00:18:19
	are employed or like the the school.	00:18:24
	Kids in my ride would be more likely to ride first thing in the morning and more.	00:18:28
	Later at night, so you kind of see different populations throughout the day on the bus. Yeah, just. It just seems like, you know,	00:18:33
	if you're going to start doing school and.	00:18:38
	Yeah, and get with the.	00:18:42
	You know the tribe and things of that nature that.	00:18:44
	Yeah, if you're gonna.	00:18:48
	You're going to have a lot more people in the future than you.	00:18:49
	Than you do now so.	00:18:53
	OK, that's all. Sounds like you're doing a great job.	00:18:55
	Thank you Clock.	00:18:59
	Thank you. You guys are the.	00:19:01
	Dog.	00:19:02
	Your numbers are really coming up and I would imagine once you start going to the.	00:19:03
	To the tribe up there, you're going to see another.	00:19:08
	Dramatic increase in numbers.	00:19:11
	Mr. Love, how?	00:19:13
	Haven't we been paying the 70?	00:19:15
	1000 from about the beginning.	00:19:17
	This chairman surrounded, Yes.	00:19:20
	We contribute 73,000 both to the copper.	00:19:22
	Mountain transit system here in town.	00:19:26
	Yeah, and 73,000 to the Beeline bus.	00:19:29
	And that's been in the same amount for.	00:19:32
	Several years.	00:19:34
	Are we reaching a point in time where maybe we need to evaluate that?	00:19:36
	And see if maybe somewhere along the way it.	00:19:40
	Can't throw in a few more dollars.	00:19:42
	Mr. Chairman, throughout the Klein, in all honesty, I would appreciate not doing that initiative.	00:19:44
	No, I'm not saying this year, I'm just saying.	00:19:49
	Along the way though.	00:19:52
	You know, I, I remember when, when that, when we.	00:19:54
	Well, when I first took office and this was a big discussion.	00:19:57
	Numbers weren't anywhere close.	00:20:02
	You guys were just kind of getting started.	00:20:04
	And we were a big.	00:20:06
	Player in all that too as well and so.	00:20:07
	But now I see where there there has been a huge need for it.	00:20:11
	And I totally see where you're coming from on your operation.	00:20:15
	That, that is, that is a big hit.	00:20:20
	And not only for this bus, but for the one here too, I'm sure so.	00:20:22
	Anyway, thank you, Julie.	00:20:27
	Yeah. Thank you, Julie.	00:20:29
	Could get a flatbed trailer.	00:20:32
	Put some hay on the back. Oh that.	00:20:34
	Yeah.	00:20:37
	People just jump on that so.	00:20:38
	All right. Well, with that, I'll call for a motion.	00:20:40
	You know there's no action on it.	00:20:42
	Got it. OK.	00:20:44
	Sorry.	00:20:46
	We're going to move right on. Sarah White, Denny.	00:20:47
	Requested to be moved forward. She's item 30.	00:20:50
	Are you still with us?	00:20:54
	There you are. Thank you.	00:20:55
	All right, so Item 30 we will deal with.	00:20:57
	Right now.	00:21:00
	And that is information discussion action to review all bids submitted for.	00:21:03
	Invitation for bid number 08162025.	00:21:08
	Law enforcement shotguns and accessories.	00:21:11
	And award a contract to the lowest, most responsive and responsible bidder.	00:21:14
	BOTAC Incorporated for term of April.	00:21:18
	2126 through June 30th 26 for maximum not to exceed the amount of 117,000.	00:21:22
	$949.55.	00:21:29
	Dara.	00:21:32
	The word and thank you for moving the item up. I appreciate.	00:21:36
	This is the.	00:21:39
	Last step in the process.	00:21:41
	For board approval in standardizing our shotgun project for the Healing County Sheriff's Office.	00:21:43
	We worked with Pioneer.	00:21:49
	To go through all of the steps, we had two bidders.	00:21:51
	And this is.	00:21:55
	A thing with both tack incorporated.	00:21:58
	Who after reviewed like the lowest most responsive?	00:22:00
	And responsible there.	00:22:03
	Thank you, Sarah.	00:22:08
	Spider Humphrey. I guess it doesn't matter, but what? What?	00:22:09
	Make or model of shotguns were they bidding on?	00:22:13
	So the Chair, Donnelly is the one that we awarded.	00:22:17
	The other one.	00:22:23
	That was.	00:22:24
	Beretta OK.	00:22:27
	Yeah, we are.	00:22:30
	According to the Nelly.	00:22:32
	OK. Yeah, just.	00:22:34
	It didn't matter, but I was just curious.	00:22:35
	Thank you.	00:22:38
	Advisor client.	00:22:40
	Sarah, I'm good. Thank you.	00:22:41
	Yeah, I'm good as well, so.	00:22:42
	And happy to move the item up. I guess you you got some.	00:22:44
	Other things you gotta go do. We appreciate that.	00:22:47
	So with that, I'll call for a motion on item 30.	00:22:50
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to award a contract to BOTAK and.	00:22:54
	Incorporated is presented.	00:22:58
	I'll second that motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	00:23:00
	Thank you, Sarah.	00:23:05
	OK. We're back now to Item 3A. We have Brandon.	00:23:09
	Today information discussion action to adopt resolution number 260406.	00:23:13
	Approving the issuance of the.	00:23:19
	Industrial Development Authority of the County of Hilah.	00:23:22
	Arizona, uh.	00:23:25
	Of its tax exempt or.	00:23:25
	Taxable revenue and refund bonds.	00:23:27
	The Cobra Valley Regional Medical Center Project Series 2026.	00:23:30
	In an aggregate.	00:23:35
	Principal amount not to exceed.	00:23:37
	$50 million.	00:23:39
	You want to come up and talk to us, Brandon?	00:23:41
	Good morning. My name is Brandon Kaywood. I am an attorney with the law firm Nixon Peabody.	00:23:51
	And I am counsel to the.	00:23:59
	Heald A.	00:24:00
	That motion or not the motion, but that.	00:24:03
	You hit on what we were here to talk about and.	00:24:05
	At the conclusion of my remarks, I'm going to invite the.	00:24:09
	Idea presidents along with the folks from Cobra Valley to discuss their roles and the the project generally.	00:24:12
	And at the end of that or.	00:24:20
	Available for questions as well.	00:24:22
	The county's role and the reason that I'm here.	00:24:25
	Is twofold under Arizona law.	00:24:28
	The county Board of Supervisors whenever an industrial development authority determines to.	00:24:31
	Issue bonds.	00:24:37
	Before those bonds can be issued.	00:24:39
	They need to have approval to do so.	00:24:41
	From the county Board of Supervisors.	00:24:44
	In addition to that, there's a federal tax requirement.	00:24:46
	That a public hearing.	00:24:50
	Is held.	00:24:53
	To give the public the opportunity to um.	00:24:54
	Have comments on the project.	00:24:58
	Which is tied back to.	00:25:00
	Federal legislation called TEFRA.	00:25:01
	In 1982.	00:25:04
	That is any bond issuance in the country that.	00:25:06
	Has a financing structure such as this where money is being lent?	00:25:10
	To a 501-C3 will have something similar.	00:25:14
	Been to do public hearings and.	00:25:18
	As recently as November in Alabama and Georgia for projects happening there.	00:25:20
	The county's role in that, however, is to approve that the.	00:25:25
	Idea did that process.	00:25:29
	As well, just kind of the.	00:25:32
	Mechanics of that.	00:25:34
	Of that structure is the.	00:25:35
	IDEA checks all the boxes and then the.	00:25:37
	That the federal tax code requires that the.	00:25:41
	Governing body.	00:25:44
	Where the project is located gives the check mark that that's occurred.	00:25:46
	And so this resolution.	00:25:51
	Hence that state law requirement that the county.	00:25:52
	Supervisors approved this project.	00:25:55
	Along with the.	00:25:57
	That the federal tax requirements regarding that public hearing have taken place.	00:26:00
	So as part of your package today.	00:26:03
	The attachments include the.	00:26:05
	Idea's resolution.	00:26:08
	That the.	00:26:09
	That they that they resolve to.	00:26:11
	Have a bond issuance last Tuesday.	00:26:14
	So that you know, as part of your resolution, you know that that has already occurred.	00:26:16
	Along with.	00:26:21
	The hearing.	00:26:22
	Was posted.	00:26:24
	Timely on their website.	00:26:25
	The notice of.	00:26:28
	Post Timely on their website and was held last week.	00:26:29
	Telephonically.	00:26:32
	Me and.	00:26:33
	A report of that which is.	00:26:36
	I believe titled draft minutes and you guys pack it.	00:26:37
	Showed that nobody joined.	00:26:40
	For that. So there's no members of the public that joined to comment on that.	00:26:43
	As far as the as far as the idea goes.	00:26:50
	Shelby, do you want to come in doctor up the idea as well?	00:26:54
	Tell us your name again, Sir.	00:27:04
	My name is Shelby Borrowdale. I am the chair at the Gila County Idea.	00:27:05
	Good morning to you guys.	00:27:10
	Good morning.	00:27:11
	What I've got here is kind of a general mission statement of the idea, which I think is important to cover, and then I'll give	00:27:13
	kind of my take of that.	00:27:16
	The Gila County Industrial Development Authority.	00:27:21
	Is committed to expanding economic development and business enterprise.	00:27:25
	For Gila County, Arizona.	00:27:29
	The primary mission of the Ida.	00:27:31
	Is to secure and apply resources that.	00:27:33
	Remote retention expansion.	00:27:36
	Attraction of business and commercial enterprises in Gila County.	00:27:39
	And to expand employment opportunities.	00:27:43
	And I think that we're we're covering all of those bases here with.	00:27:45
	With this bond.	00:27:49
	I'm sure that you guys will have financial questions and and burden questions about response.	00:27:51
	For repayment and things like that.	00:27:55
	I think we've done our due diligence as the idea to make sure that we are not subject to those.	00:27:57
	Liabilities, yeah.	00:28:02
	And that what we're doing instead is.	00:28:04
	Providing.	00:28:06
	Cobra Valley Hospital, which I think is an asset to our community.	00:28:07
	The preferable resources they need to.	00:28:11
	Continue providing quality resources to our community.	00:28:14
	We do financially benefit from this as an idea.	00:28:18
	It's not the mission of the idea, obviously, but.	00:28:22
	What we gain from this, we put back into a revolving loan account.	00:28:26
	Small business loans.	00:28:30
	We've issued a small business loan.	00:28:31
	As recently as maybe?	00:28:34
	January, I think it was.	00:28:37
	This fear for a small.	00:28:39
	Trash cleanup business.	00:28:40
	And I think that overall this is a sound.	00:28:43
	For us as idea and even Gila County to say let's, let's.	00:28:46
	Our advantages for tax purposes.	00:28:51
	Get bonds from the market.	00:28:53
	Hospital abandoned the way they need to.	00:28:55
	And then use proceeds from that transaction to.	00:28:57
	Further, other small businesses.	00:29:00
	OK, anymore.	00:29:05
	That's all I got on it.	00:29:07
	OK, very good. Well.	00:29:09
	Find out if we have any questions for you.	00:29:11
	I don't have any questions. My hat's off to the idea, thank you very much. Because I can remember back years ago when they were	00:29:15
	doing.	00:29:18
	Huge bonds for the mines and construction in our local area.	00:29:22
	So it's great to see.	00:29:25
	The idea?	00:29:29
	Get the wheels back underneath them and start.	00:29:30
	Doing things for the community.	00:29:33
	And like helping with the hospital construction and things of that nature.	00:29:34
	It's you know you were developed.	00:29:39
	To help do things that we can't.	00:29:41
	And so it's great to see the idea doing things.	00:29:43
	To help our community.	00:29:47
	And.	00:29:50
	And help businesses do the things they need to do.	00:29:51
	Sure. Thank you.	00:29:53
	Supervisor clone.	00:29:55
	Shelby, I'm good.	00:29:56
	I think sounds like you guys have done your homework on this and you're good to go so.	00:29:58
	OK, good.	00:30:01
	I appreciate it. Would you guys have any questions for Brandon?	00:30:02
	No, I just believe it.	00:30:06
	Clarify a little so that I understand so the.	00:30:08
	We're just giving permission for the bond to be.	00:30:10
	To go through. That's what we're doing today. Think of yourselves as the gatekeepers. You're not not responsible for the debts or	00:30:14
	anything that they can't. Yeah.	00:30:18
	They can't issue it without your approval.	00:30:22
	And Sir, the the idea, if I remember right, there was some discussion that I heard that.	00:30:25
	Your funds were kind of depleting, getting lower and lower, and so it's going to help.	00:30:31
	It certainly will will help us continue our efforts.	00:30:36
	In other areas of the community.	00:30:39
	Yeah, OK.	00:30:41
	Good. So that's kind of a win.	00:30:42
	Yes, Sir.	00:30:45
	All right. And Mr. Chair, I also like to thank the hospital for working.	00:30:45
	With the idea, because I'm sure you had.	00:30:49
	Lots of choices in where to reach for for your funding so.	00:30:52
	I want to thank you very much for working with the idea.	00:30:57
	Well on this project too.	00:31:00
	To keep it in the community.	00:31:03
	Thank you very much.	00:31:05
	So we, we have some people. I, I know you.	00:31:07
	And from the hospital here too, so that's great.	00:31:10
	Any more questions?	00:31:13
	And I'll call for a motion.	00:31:14
	Yeah, Mr. Chair.	00:31:18
	I move to adopt resolution #26-04.	00:31:20
	Six. I'll second that motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	00:31:24
	Aye, aye. Thank you very much. Thank you, John.	00:31:29
	Thank you very much.	00:31:31
	All right. Our next item is item 3B, Information Discussion Action.	00:31:33
	Yes, Sir.	00:31:40
	The purpose of this was a public hearing.	00:31:42
	Well.	00:31:47
	OK.	00:31:50
	Were included that I.	00:31:59
	Find so that I, you know, open the public hearing.	00:32:00
	Thank you. With that clarification, Mr.	00:32:11
	OK. Thanks for.	00:32:13
	Keep it up straight, all right?	00:32:14
	3D.	00:32:15
	Information discussion action Approve Economic development agreement number 202602.	00:32:17
	By one between Hewlett County and the Toronto Basin Chamber of Commerce in the amount of $5000.	00:32:23
	To assist with the operation and advertising.	00:32:29
	Campaigns of the Tunnel Basin Chamber.	00:32:32
	Which the board is determined to be for the benefit of the public.	00:32:34
	And we have Marin Valley.	00:32:37
	We also have.	00:32:39
	Crystal Lombardo.	00:32:40
	Yes, good morning, Mr. Chair, Supervisor Humphrey, Supervisor Klein.	00:32:41
	It's my pleasure to introduce Crystal Lombardo as she will be.	00:32:45
	Providing you with an update on the Tonto Basin Chamber of Commerce.	00:32:48
	Its current achievements and its upcoming goals.	00:32:53
	Thank you.	00:32:56
	Good morning.	00:32:57
	Good morning.	00:32:59
	So we have.	00:33:01
	Lot of exciting things that.	00:33:03
	Umm, how do I do this?	00:33:06
	OK, there's our board.	00:33:13
	So.	00:33:15
	In 2025, May 1st, I became the.	00:33:17
	President for the chamber. Yeah, all of the faces that you see there.	00:33:21
	Are they work full time jobs? We're all volunteers.	00:33:26
	We do not have an executive director that is a paid position.	00:33:29
	So since May of last year we have.	00:33:33
	Brought in.	00:33:38
	75 new members to the Chamber.	00:33:39
	And 70 members, excuse me, we have 95 members.	00:33:42
	Now that our businesses of our Chamber.	00:33:46
	And at that time when I.	00:33:49
	Wrote this up that we didn't have as many but.	00:33:50
	We have more that have come on.	00:33:53
	We're a really small town, so to have 95 members.	00:33:54
	We're very active. We've launched A newsletter last year that.	00:33:59
	Goes out for the community, you know?	00:34:03
	And people really look forward to getting that newsletter.	00:34:05
	We have.	00:34:08
	Where we e-mail it out.	00:34:10
	We print it.	00:34:12
	So that it goes to the different places and people can pick them up.	00:34:13
	That some like the hard copy rather than just a.	00:34:16
	Digital, uh.	00:34:19
	Of it and.	00:34:20
	Again, our membership has.	00:34:22
	Grown to 75 new members.	00:34:23
	We updated our bylaws last year, so we're now a fiscal January to December rather than a.	00:34:26
	May to April, which was kind of confusing.	00:34:32
	So we had a pro radar members dues this year.	00:34:35
	Obviously not as much coming in.	00:34:38
	But uh.	00:34:40
	We're bringing in new members which have paid the full.	00:34:40
	Price of the dues.	00:34:43
	We started doing Breakfast Club in February and we have it every.	00:34:45
	Wednesday we started at 8:30 to 9:30 in the morning.	00:34:49
	730 seemed like a little too early for some folks in Tano.	00:34:53
	Remember, we're 70% of our community is retired.	00:34:56
	People.	00:35:00
	So the rest of us are still having to work.	00:35:01
	Bummer on that one, but.	00:35:05
	Our mixers, we had four mixers that we've already done this year and we try to spread it out to the different.	00:35:07
	Areas of the community.	00:35:12
	Locations, lunch and learns.	00:35:14
	So that's kind of starting to pick up.	00:35:16
	We started a community member of the month.	00:35:19
	Last year, last month we started it. We had a gentleman that has been cleaning the streets.	00:35:22
	Volunteer and wonderful just to do this for the community and not just kind of spark something in our brain.	00:35:28
	Look how many people do for the tunnel basin.	00:35:35
	And they don't get paid and they're not looking for recognition. But why not give them a little recognition?	00:35:38
	So we have a certificate that we hand out. We ask them to come to if it's a breakfast club or a mixer.	00:35:43
	So we can present it to them.	00:35:49
	Where the public's around.	00:35:51
	And then we gave them a $25.00 gift card to one of the restaurants so that we're.	00:35:52
	Obviously helping our businesses as well.	00:35:57
	We sponsored last year the food ministry, the library, the fire department and the school carnival.	00:36:01
	We did.	00:36:07
	Bring in.	00:36:08
	A large amount of money last year at our Wild West days and we felt that it was important to give that money back to.	00:36:09
	Community, uh.	00:36:15
	And so that's why we were able to sponsor the food ministry, the library and the.	00:36:16
	Fire Department.	00:36:21
	We Co hosted Wild West days this year.	00:36:23
	We that's our biggest fundraiser for the chamber.	00:36:26
	And the poker part of it is all the.	00:36:29
	That puts it on, but we are the silent auction, live auction.	00:36:33
	The raffles and those types of things.	00:36:36
	That will help us through the year to be able to make improvements on the Chamber.	00:36:39
	And do things for our businesses.	00:36:43
	Our goals for 2026.	00:36:48
	Bring in 20 new members.	00:36:50
	Right now we have 8 new members that have come on this.	00:36:51
	So I have to get.	00:36:54
	I've got 12 more to bring in.	00:36:57
	We've had ribbon cuttings for businesses. We've had four ribbon cuttings since May 1st.	00:36:59
	And that's been a really fun thing to do, to have.	00:37:04
	Community come out.	00:37:07
	And what why we're doing these ribbon cuttings?	00:37:09
	Welcome Basket.	00:37:13
	Program that we started, we were having our members.	00:37:15
	Donate they could do it. A discount on an item they can.	00:37:17
	Throw in a.	00:37:21
	Swag item and then when a person moves into town or basin, they get this welcome basket.	00:37:22
	With all the business directory, you know who's ever in.	00:37:27
	A member of the chamber, they're on there.	00:37:30
	We also have important.	00:37:32
	Phone numbers to have on there like your trash and your utilities and your water.	00:37:35
	So that they know who to contact.	00:37:39
	When they get those when they need those turned on.	00:37:41
	At the annual community event that I talked about was the Poker Ride the auction.	00:37:45
	And we're planning, we're going to be planning a BBQ at the Chamber because we've done a lot of improvements to it.	00:37:50
	So I'm looking forward to having.	00:37:56
	You know our community. Come to the Chamber and check out what we've done.	00:37:59
	We promote.	00:38:03
	Our members via social media newsletter.	00:38:05
	One of our goals is to try to hire a part-time person.	00:38:08
	Because we're all volunteers.	00:38:12
	So.	00:38:14
	If we are busy with our regular jobs, we're not getting.	00:38:15
	The job done for our members and.	00:38:19
	To me, that's really important to do. I probably work 10 or 15 hours part time.	00:38:21
	On my own, not getting paid because we've grown so much.	00:38:26
	And we don't want to grow and then not let.	00:38:30
	You know, we just.	00:38:32
	The business is hanging.	00:38:33
	We want to continue to help them to grow.	00:38:34
	Facility and technology improvement, some other things that we're using with the money that we were raised from Wild West days is.	00:38:39
	Our sliding glass doors. Luckily it's a double pane. We had a gardener out and he smashed.	00:38:46
	With weedy whack in one of the panes on the window.	00:38:51
	And it's a really old.	00:38:55
	Sliding glass door. So we decided to upgrade it.	00:38:57
	To get French doors.	00:39:00
	In that if it's feasible.	00:39:01
	Stop to see if what's.	00:39:03
	Pricing wise.	00:39:05
	New mini blinds to be installed to help with efficiency with.	00:39:07
	The AC, yes.	00:39:10
	You all know, we've all.	00:39:11
	Had increases from aths and.	00:39:13
	And SRP.	00:39:15
	Exterior lighting and cameras.	00:39:16
	We've had a lot more activity going on at the chamber. We do have a church service that is every Wednesday night.	00:39:18
	And in the winter, it's really dark.	00:39:25
	We have no lighting outside but the flag that's lit up, so that's one of the things we're getting done with the funds that we	00:39:27
	receive.	00:39:30
	Installing Internet in a TV.	00:39:34
	So that when church or whoever.	00:39:36
	The church right now, they.	00:39:38
	Old fashioned, umm uh.	00:39:40
	Projector that.	00:39:42
	Goes up on the screen. I'm trying to think of what that.	00:39:43
	You know the Yeah.	00:39:46
	The clear papers or whatever.	00:39:47
	Thank you.	00:39:50
	Goes and so they're probably used to doing that.	00:39:51
	But it's going to be a fun change for them to just be able to put in their USB.	00:39:54
	And then it's presented up on the TV screen.	00:39:58
	New kitchen refrigerator, a microwave and a coffee pot.	00:40:01
	With our breakfast clubs.	00:40:04
	We want to be able to.	00:40:06
	You know, make the coffee, obviously have a microwave if somebody wanted to do danishes.	00:40:08
	Our refrigerator. The freezer doesn't work, but the fridge does.	00:40:12
	So you know little.	00:40:15
	Upgrades that haven't been done for many years.	00:40:17
	Moving forward.	00:40:20
	Our goal is to continue growing membership and engagement.	00:40:23
	We are a board of.	00:40:26
	Of eight.	00:40:28
	And yes, it's a board, but we want to get the members involved to help with volunteering.	00:40:29
	To grow other businesses, not just having the board do all the work.	00:40:34
	Strengthen the community, obviously with the partnerships.	00:40:39
	Enhance facility and services.	00:40:42
	Support local businesses.	00:40:44
	And keep Tunnel Basin connected and thriving.	00:40:46
	We have a lot of new businesses that have come into Tonneau.	00:40:49
	And we want to see them grow and.	00:40:52
	You know we.	00:40:54
	It's our town is so split up that.	00:40:55
	Sometimes you don't realize.	00:40:58
	The old 188, there's businesses on that road.	00:40:59
	So to keep it out there with the public by.	00:41:03
	Putting it on Facebook.	00:41:07
	Putting it in the newsletter.	00:41:08
	There's so many different ways that people are now.	00:41:10
	Finding out about.	00:41:12
	Whatever's going on in your town.	00:41:14
	So it's not just a newsletter, it's going to be some like Facebook, some like Instagram, some do TikTok.	00:41:16
	So there's different ways that you can try to let your community know.	00:41:21
	What's going on? And I think this is my last page here, but we do appreciate this Grant.	00:41:26
	Our property taxes are $3000 alone and I just got some information that.	00:41:32
	That we might be able to.	00:41:37
	Eliminate that tax, which would be amazing.	00:41:39
	No, we don't eliminate that tax.	00:41:41
	We still need them, yeah.	00:41:43
	But it was just shocking that it was that much and our insurance.	00:41:45
	Is over 2000 as well.	00:41:48
	So this grant helps us a lot.	00:41:51
	With moving forward in.	00:41:53
	Growing our businesses in Tonto.	00:41:56
	So I do appreciate your time and if you have any questions for me, I'm happy to answer them.	00:41:58
	I think of Cristiano, Supervisor Humphrey.	00:42:03
	Yeah, I.	00:42:06
	I I have my monthly meetings at the chamber, so I've noticed the.	00:42:08
	Improvements that you do to the building and so.	00:42:12
	So that's a great thing. I guess the only question that I would have is with your community newsletter.	00:42:14
	Would you mind taking a picture with the Board of Supervisors to put in your newsletter?	00:42:20
	That we do.	00:42:25
	Sponsor you for the 5000.	00:42:26
	That would be amazing, yes. And because we put your, we do put the.	00:42:28
	Minutes in our newsletter.	00:42:32
	Sure.	00:42:34
	Yeah, no. And I, I from my meeting, I appreciate.	00:42:35
	We would love to do that. OK, Thank you. Yes, very much. That's all.	00:42:38
	OK. Thank you, Supervisor Clark.	00:42:42
	Christa, I've been in your building before and.	00:42:44
	In meetings in the past, you guys have a.	00:42:46
	Good little building there, good location and.	00:42:48
	It it's good, we can.	00:42:51
	Help support this SO.	00:42:53
	Another thing that you're doing.	00:42:54
	We appreciate that.	00:42:56
	And and we're trying to connect them actually have a meeting after this.	00:42:57
	Presentation today with the Globe.	00:43:02
	Executive Director.	00:43:04
	Just to kind of get ideas and connect with them.	00:43:05
	And also I've met with.	00:43:08
	Payson Chamber of Commerce.	00:43:10
	They have a new executive director that I will be contacting just to try to keep the towns where we're connecting.	00:43:13
	Yes.	00:43:20
	In Payson.	00:43:24
	Yeah, Angel's here.	00:43:25
	Shannon Shannon is the new executive director. I believe she's.	00:43:27
	Got a lot of energy so.	00:43:30
	I noticed driving by this morning there was a lot of cars there.	00:43:32
	Was there something going on at the chamber this morning? Yeah. So every Tuesday and Thursday, the women.	00:43:36
	The elderly women have their little.	00:43:42
	Exercise Group.	00:43:45
	Yeah, they do, and they do a great job. They love, you know, coming there.	00:43:46
	It sounds like you're not only the chamber, you're the Community Center.	00:43:50
	We really are and that's what my goal. I mean, I work a full time job, but I.	00:43:53
	I have a passion.	00:43:58
	For businesses.	00:43:59
	And growing them and that's.	00:44:01
	You know why I want to put those additional hours in for free volunteering? Because.	00:44:03
	It's so neat to see companies.	00:44:08
	Growing.	00:44:10
	Yes, in Tano.	00:44:11
	Yeah, that whole area is growing. So that's great. Thank you for that.	00:44:12
	Without, I'll call for motion then.	00:44:16
	Mr. Chair, I'll make a motion to approve the economic development.	00:44:20
	Agreement number.	00:44:23
	2026.	00:44:24
	0251.	00:44:26
	Between Gila County and the Tunnel Basin Chamber of Commerce.	00:44:29
	As presented, in which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public.	00:44:32
	Mr. Chair, I'll second that.	00:44:37
	They have a motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye aye.	00:44:38
	Thank you.	00:44:43
	Do you mind if we can get a picture? I was gonna say if we could get a picture.	00:44:44
	All right, let's get a picture.	00:44:48
	OK.	00:44:56
	OK, hope we can speed this up a little bit more.	00:45:08
	We've got a lot to do today. Next item is 3.	00:45:13
	C and information discussion action to approve economic.	00:45:16
	Open agreement number.	00:45:21
	2026-0258 it's between Hema County and the Payson Rodeo Committee.	00:45:23
	Incorporated in the amount of 20,000 for cost.	00:45:28
	Related to promoting the Gary Hart.	00:45:30
	Rodeo.	00:45:33
	Memorial Rodeo in the world's oldest continuous rodeo.	00:45:34
	Which the board is determined to be for the benefit of the public. Now I know my name is here, but it's not my item. It's a	00:45:37
	reoccurring item every year we're.	00:45:41
	It's just my office that submitted it.	00:45:45
	And we do have.	00:45:47
	A while with us, who is the?	00:45:49
	El Presidente of the.	00:45:52
	Rodeo Committee.	00:45:54
	Good morning, Dan.	00:45:56
	Good morning.	00:45:58
	Thank you.	00:46:00
	German important supervisors.	00:46:03
	Stop that song.	00:46:05
	For the state, first of all.	00:46:06
	And sponsorship of our.	00:46:13
	Development. Umm.	00:46:17
	Fun. And this year we're asking for the same amount.	00:46:20
	Which is $5000.	00:46:24
	Very Hard Memorial Rodeo and 15,000 for the world's oldest.	00:46:26
	Continuous rodeo and.	00:46:31
	And has to be applied to a.	00:46:33
	29,000.	00:46:35
	700 vague, emotional.	00:46:36
	Campaign targeting.	00:46:38
	Phoenix and Scottsdale to bring people up to Payson.	00:46:40
	The economic impact.	00:46:44
	From our Romeo.	00:46:47
	From 2023 or.	00:46:49
	Approximately 14,900.	00:46:52
	People. Umm.	00:46:55
	But 60% of the.	00:46:56
	Visitor be driving Vermont.	00:46:58
	And based on the Arizona.	00:47:01
	As the Tourism estimates, Steve ministers.	00:47:02
	Contribute over $2,000,000.	00:47:05
	In the local spending.	00:47:08
	Homage, fuel and dining.	00:47:09
	More as a 501-C395 that we invest all proceeds.	00:47:12
	Inhibiting our.	00:47:19
	45,000.	00:47:20
	Scholarships and terrible contributions.	00:47:21
	Veterans and health support groups.	00:47:24
	The recognition of the $20,000 of.	00:47:29
	Tamil county.	00:47:35
	Receive sponsorship packages.	00:47:36
	Both events would be total estimated value of 24,000.	00:47:38
	$400.	00:47:43
	With the total production cost of $350,000.	00:47:46
	Or contributes. Your contribution is vital.	00:47:50
	Maintaining these historic events and their.	00:47:53
	Positive impact on our Western heritage and local economy.	00:47:56
	Thanks for your time.	00:48:00
	Thank you, Dan. Supervisor Humphrey.	00:48:02
	I have no questions.	00:48:06
	Other than.	00:48:08
	We are. We are.	00:48:10
	Dividing this amount.	00:48:11
	Correct or no?	00:48:13
	This is an amount that comes from our economic development money that Mister Menlove made.	00:48:14
	OK.	00:48:19
	OK.	00:48:21
	No, but no questions on the rodeo. You guys do a great job.	00:48:22
	Glad to help.	00:48:26
	Yep, Thank you, Supervisor.	00:48:28
	So, Dan, thanks it's.	00:48:33
	Been a pleasure to help.	00:48:35
	Support this for all the years I've been here and you guys do an awesome job.	00:48:37
	It's a big weekend in patient. It's definitely you don't want to go patient.	00:48:41
	Don't like traffic so.	00:48:45
	Anyway, thank you for all you guys do.	00:48:47
	Yeah. Thank you, Dan.	00:48:50
	The rodeo committee is.	00:48:53
	Large, You have a lot of members. You do a tremendous amount of work.	00:48:56
	The.	00:49:00
	Benefit is.	00:49:02
	Awesome.	00:49:03
	The Western heritage part, the whole historical.	00:49:06
	Part is all.	00:49:10
	Very good and so.	00:49:12
	This grant.	00:49:15
	Is well worth.	00:49:16
	The return that.	00:49:18
	Is developed because of it, so we appreciate.	00:49:20
	Your committee it's.	00:49:23
	I think the largest.	00:49:24
	Really most productive committee we have in.	00:49:27
	That part of Gila County.	00:49:31
	Thank you very much.	00:49:33
	Thank you, Mr. Chairman.	00:49:36
	And so with that, I'll call for a motion on item 3.	00:49:38
	Monsieur moved to approve economic development.	00:49:42
	Agreement number 20260258.	00:49:45
	Between Helix.	00:49:49
	County and patient.	00:49:50
	Pro Rodeo Committee incorporated as presented.	00:49:52
	And which the Board?	00:49:55
	Has determined to be for the benefit of the public.	00:49:56
	I'll second that.	00:49:59
	Motion in a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	00:50:00
	Aye, aye. Thank you, Dan. Thanks for coming.	00:50:03
	Right, so item 3D is information discussion action.	00:50:07
	To approve an economic development agreement number 202602.	00:50:11
	4-5 between Hila County and the George Belvado Junior.	00:50:15
	A memorial sports association in the amount of.	00:50:19
	$5000 that was.	00:50:22
	Used to support the annual.	00:50:23
	Memorial Day baseball tournament.	00:50:25
	Which the board determined.	00:50:27
	To be for the benefit of the public, and this is Mr. Klein's item.	00:50:29
	Thank you, Mr. Chair. So.	00:50:32
	Ever since I've been in this seat.	00:50:34
	George Belvedau started this ballpark.	00:50:37
	Some years back anyway, he passed away and his brother Wilbur.	00:50:40
	Took it over.	00:50:44
	And I've worked with Wilbur now for.	00:50:45
	Basically nine years.	00:50:48
	On this and he's built that.	00:50:50
	Ballpark up.	00:50:51
	And has done an awesome job and every year I've.	00:50:53
	I've been there to help support him on the.	00:50:56
	On the tournaments and whatever else he's got going on there.	00:50:58
	It's a really nice place. It's one of the highlights of Saint Carlos down there, really.	00:51:01
	And matter of fact, I just had a discussion with.	00:51:05
	Chairman, about your day.	00:51:08
	And it's a real good addition to San Carlos, chairman of the tribe.	00:51:10
	Chairman of the tribe, yes.	00:51:14
	Yeah, not you.	00:51:16
	Let's clarify that real quick.	00:51:19
	So.	00:51:21
	Anyway, any questions I'd be happy.	00:51:22
	Sure. Thank you, supervisor, no question.	00:51:24
	OK. I don't have any questions and this is out of my constituents.	00:51:27
	All right. So with that, I'll call for motion.	00:51:31
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve economic development.	00:51:33
	Agreement number 2026.	00:51:37
	0245.	00:51:39
	Between Gila County and the George Belvidow Junior Memorial.	00:51:41
	Sports Association.	00:51:45
	As presented.	00:51:46
	In which the Board has determined to be for the benefit of the public.	00:51:47
	Mr. Gerald second, the motion in the second to approve those in favor say aye aye.	00:51:51
	IDOL 3 E is information discussion action to approve economic Development Agreement number 2026.	00:51:55
	Dash 0240 between Halo County and the Arizona Alpine Trail, Incorporated.	00:52:01
	It's in the amount of $2000 to assist in the creation of a 704 mile.	00:52:06
	Arizona Alpine Trail, which the board determined to be for the benefit of the public.	00:52:11
	Supervisor Humphrey.	00:52:15
	Yeah, we, you know, with.	00:52:16
	With the development of.	00:52:19
	The Discover Gila County.	00:52:21
	There's a lot of people come to use our trails and quads and everything else and so.	00:52:24
	It bring it helps bring a lot of people. And so this this trail, I think would be.	00:52:28
	A great benefit for the people that are here and like to.	00:52:34
	To recreate and hike.	00:52:38
	These trails.	00:52:40
	There's one taken off right there at Roosevelt Dam.	00:52:41
	And you can see that there's been a lot of work for.	00:52:44
	Spend to that for horses.	00:52:46
	Or people walking.	00:52:48
	Some different trail.	00:52:50
	And so anyway.	00:52:52
	That's what it is. I think it'll help.	00:52:54
	Create a lot more.	00:52:57
	Outdoor activity here.	00:52:59
	So any questions?	00:53:01
	Supervisor Klein.	00:53:03
	Tim, who maintains that thrill, Do you know?	00:53:04
	Volunteers.	00:53:07
	Maintain that trail.	00:53:08
	Yeah, I believe.	00:53:09
	Part of it that takes off the Roosevelt.	00:53:10
	On that particular trail.	00:53:13
	Fernando Shipley.	00:53:15
	He does X amount of miles and they have volunteers.	00:53:16
	Who enjoy hiking that keep the maintenance up in the brush down and things up.	00:53:20
	Trail. Oh, good deal.	00:53:23
	That's only question.	00:53:25
	Is saying.	00:53:27
	Trail.	00:53:29
	That's was is being promoted by gentlemen to create an ATV trail.	00:53:30
	Across.	00:53:37
	Arizona, uh.	00:53:38
	Could be.	00:53:40
	Could be, yes.	00:53:41
	I can't remember.	00:53:44
	I'm not sure. So anyway, I really don't have any questions with that, I'll call for motion.	00:53:45
	OK, I move to approve economic.	00:53:50
	Development agreement.	00:53:53
	20260240 between Hill County and Arizona Alpine.	00:53:55
	Trail, Incorporated, as presented, at which the Board is determined to be for the benefit of the public.	00:54:00
	I'll second that motion a second to approve. Those in favor say aye aye.	00:54:05
	Item 3F Information discussion actually approve another economic development agreement, number 2026 DASH.	00:54:10
	0246 between Gila County and Pinal Mountain Foundation for Higher Education in the amount of $1000.	00:54:16
	To assist in awarding scholarships to.	00:54:23
	Deserving students in Hila County.	00:54:25
	Which the board was determined to be for the benefit of the.	00:54:27
	How about supervisor hopefully?	00:54:30
	Yeah, again, I, you know, I don't mind giving them this much to help sponsor. They do a lot of fundraisers.	00:54:32
	Car shows and things of that nature.	00:54:39
	To be able to offer.	00:54:41
	Scholarships.	00:54:43
	Individuals, uh.	00:54:45
	And I feel anybody that gets scholarships and go to school.	00:54:46
	Will definitely help give back to our communities.	00:54:50
	So to me that's that's money well spent.	00:54:53
	For someone to help get an education.	00:54:57
	Thank you for doing that, Supervisor Humphrey.	00:55:00
	I'm sorry, Supervisor Klein. That's right.	00:55:03
	Thank you, Mr.	00:55:07
	No, I'm good. That's a good 'cause that's, that's good.	00:55:09
	OK. Thank you. I don't have any questions. So with that, I'll call for a motion.	00:55:12
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve economic development.	00:55:16
	Grant Development Agreement number 20260246.	00:55:19
	Between Gila County and Pinal Mountain Foundation for Higher Education.	00:55:25
	As presented in which the board.	00:55:29
	Determined to be for the benefit of the.	00:55:31
	I'll second that motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	00:55:34
	Aye.	00:55:38
	All right, great. Now getting to the Shara Cassie show.	00:55:40
	So just to let you know, Shira I talked with.	00:55:44
	With Charlotte this morning to see whether or not we could make this process any easier.	00:55:49
	So she's going to try and look into that.	00:55:55
	To see because after reading the same sentence over and over.	00:55:57
	OK, so anyway.	00:56:01
	She's going to look into that.	00:56:03
	See whether we can make this go because it's it looks like you're just going to keep coming back.	00:56:05
	I think so, yes. OK.	00:56:10
	All right, so item 3G information discussion actually approved or denied petition for redemption of exam.	00:56:12
	Favor from Vicki Martin petitioning to have the individual tax exemption.	00:56:17
	On partial 30238218.	00:56:22
	A which is deemed waived by the Arizona Revised Statute. Redeemed for tax year 2026.	00:56:25
	Thank you, Mr.	00:56:32
	Chair members of the board.	00:56:33
	One staff that I would like to read before I talk about Miss Martin.	00:56:35
	And based on some comments.	00:56:39
	Questions that came about in my last presentation.	00:56:41
	Of all of the organizational exemptions that we have in Hula County.	00:56:44
	61% of those are in southern Hula County.	00:56:49
	And of all the individual exemptions, we have 65%.	00:56:53
	Are in Southern.	00:56:57
	OK, now.	00:57:00
	As a reminder, property tax exemptions are governed by.	00:57:03
	The Arizona Revised Statute, Title 42.	00:57:07
	And applied by the assessor's office according to qualification.	00:57:10
	When we are in the.	00:57:14
	Annual application period from January 1 to March 1st we process.	00:57:15
	Those qualified applicants.	00:57:20
	And apply the exemptions that qualify for without pause.	00:57:22
	It's only when the applicant qualifies.	00:57:26
	Outside of the application period that statute dictates.	00:57:28
	We come before you guys.	00:57:32
	And present their application.	00:57:34
	So that you can backdate it.	00:57:37
	For the current year.	00:57:38
	OK, so your approval or denial today does not?	00:57:40
	Apply to the applicant being qualified.	00:57:44
	Applies to whether their qualification goes for this year.	00:57:47
	All qualifying taxpayers met an income cap of either $39,000.	00:57:51
	$39,865 if you don't have children.	00:57:56
	47,008.	00:57:59
	Do an all non veteran qualifying taxpayers met a property valuation cap of 36,454?	00:58:01
	OK. I know those were some of the questions last goer.	00:58:11
	OK, so.	00:58:14
	Under Arizona Revised Statute 42-111.	00:58:15
	One Vicky A Martin, qualifies for a partial property tax exemption as a widow.	00:58:19
	Miss Martin did not file her application prior to March 1st because she was unaware of the program.	00:58:26
	Her property is in.	00:58:31
	For primaries as value is 33,525.	00:58:33
	She would that would be reduced by the 4873 allowable exemption, taking further 28,000.	00:58:38
	652.	00:58:45
	And she would get a tax forgiveness of approximately 500.	00:58:47
	OK, question, Supervisor Humphrey.	00:58:52
	Yeah, I, I.	00:58:56
	I did pull up a lot of this.	00:58:57
	Through it and and.	00:58:59
	Some of it I understood, some of it I.	00:59:01
	I didn't because it refers to other things and.	00:59:03
	I could be there for days, but anyway.	00:59:06
	I guess what I'm wondering is last month you came with this. I mean, last meeting you came with us about 6.	00:59:08
	You're having about 6 now.	00:59:14
	How? How many people?	00:59:16
	I guess.	00:59:19
	Have qualified.	00:59:20
	That don't come to us that they did it.	00:59:21
	In the time frame that they were supposed to.	00:59:24
	A lot. I don't have OK, no, no, OK, a lot so.	00:59:28
	We're we're we're a county that lives on 3 1/2 percent of our tax base.	00:59:32
	Sure. And so a lot.	00:59:37
	Whether it's 1000, I mean, if, if we're getting into percentages.	00:59:39
	Of what our 3 1/2 percent is.	00:59:44
	Then I think we need to kind of look.	00:59:48
	At the allot.	00:59:51
	And the amount and maybe get with the county manager and and finance to see OK, here is our budget.	00:59:52
	Here's how many people.	01:00:00
	Qualified by state.	01:00:01
	Statutes.	01:00:04
	That that that received this.	01:00:05
	Tax break.	01:00:09
	OK, that's all through the state.	01:00:10
	OK, but but what is that going to do to our yearly budget if?	01:00:12
	I mean because.	01:00:16
	I've been here for 9 years and we.	01:00:17
	We just haven't done this and so people have qualified that didn't know they qualified.	01:00:20
	But now they do.	01:00:24
	And so, OK, that's all fine.	01:00:26
	But but.	01:00:28
	But what what concerns me is, OK, we've done 12. For how many thousands of dollars?	01:00:28
	In two meetings.	01:00:33
	How many people?	01:00:35
	In the last year.	01:00:37
	Qualified.	01:00:39
	That didn't come before the Board of Supervisors.	01:00:40
	That's gonna make.	01:00:43
	An impact or not an impact?	01:00:45
	In our yearly budget.	01:00:48
	And like you say, 61% one way and 65% the other way qualify.	01:00:51
	It's like, OK, if we're getting into that much volume.	01:00:57
	I mean I I.	01:01:01
	I guess I would like.	01:01:02
	If you be interested at some point in time.	01:01:03
	Of what's that going to impact?	01:01:06
	Our tax base when we live on 3 1/2 percent of our tax base.	01:01:09
	So anyway, that's not a question.	01:01:12
	That you can answer now.	01:01:15
	But it's something that I wanted to bring up.	01:01:17
	To just say, hey, you know what?	01:01:20
	What difference is this state statute?	01:01:22
	Going to make to us.	01:01:25
	With this many people qualifying because, I mean, we live.	01:01:28
	You know, a lot of our area is elderly people.	01:01:31
	And, and we have a lot of veterans that reside here as well.	01:01:35
	Which I'm grateful for them and it's all great, but.	01:01:39
	But I'm just, I'm just trying to kind of look ahead that all of a sudden.	01:01:42
	Here's what we've been getting in taxes in.	01:01:46
	We're not anymore.	01:01:48
	So anyway, Mr. Chair, if I, if I may.	01:01:50
	The supervisor.	01:01:53
	Should stop paper here. I do actually have those numbers. OK, good.	01:01:55
	So since the start.	01:02:00
	Of our exemptions of this number.	01:02:02
	Encompasses many years.	01:02:04
	We have.	01:02:06
	Just over 1000 individual exemptions.	01:02:07
	Since when?	01:02:10
	Since the inception of exemptions, I don't know that year.	01:02:11
	But it's multiple years.	01:02:15
	So over the multiple year span, we only have just over 1000.	01:02:17
	OK. But yeah, a lot of those have been recently.	01:02:22
	There's a little.	01:02:28
	Up cling on it because of the of the 100%.	01:02:30
	On the veterans?	01:02:34
	And on the second point that you made on the dollars?	01:02:36
	We're looking at anywhere between 3:00 and $600.00 of savings to the taxpayer. Sure.	01:02:39
	OK. Now that obviously that's not 100% exempted veteran because?	01:02:45
	They get the whole ball of laps.	01:02:49
	But for everyone else that gets an exemption is between 306.	01:02:51
	That the county would be losing.	01:02:55
	From or not the county, but.	01:02:58
	All the taxing authority.	01:03:00
	I would be losing.	01:03:02
	Right, Yeah, from our from our yeah, college to.	01:03:04
	Fire departments.	01:03:08
	Yeah.	01:03:10
	That don't anymore, which makes a big difference in realizone.	01:03:12
	OK, uh.	01:03:16
	That's asked and answered and.	01:03:17
	Trying to look ahead of him.	01:03:20
	OK, Good question. Thank you. You're welcome.	01:03:22
	Supervisor clone.	01:03:24
	So I.	01:03:27
	I honestly like it when these people qualify for this and we can give it to them.	01:03:30
	I do too, so.	01:03:33
	But Joe, I got a question for you if this isn't state statute.	01:03:34
	And people that actually qualify for this.	01:03:39
	Exemption. Uh.	01:03:41
	Redemption or exemption?	01:03:43
	Why do they give us a?	01:03:45
	The option of approving it or denying it.	01:03:46
	Members of the board.	01:03:53
	These folks that have missed the deadline.	01:03:56
	Then they're able to go to the assessors office and work with the assessor staff and then.	01:04:01
	The Board of Supervisors has discretion to grant.	01:04:06
	That OK, that way we're not.	01:04:10
	I got you now.	01:04:13
	But otherwise, those people would.	01:04:15
	Have they filed their their application time? They would have been granted the exemption that they're entitled to.	01:04:17
	With the reduction that they were.	01:04:23
	Entitled to OK, Thank you, Joe. I get that because of the way laws.	01:04:25
	The discretion moves to the board to grant or deny that relief.	01:04:29
	OK, correct. And if I may.	01:04:34
	This what we're doing.	01:04:37
	Here has been a part of statute.	01:04:38
	For a long time.	01:04:40
	My predecessors.	01:04:42
	I guess we're not aware of it.	01:04:43
	So that's why it may be.	01:04:44
	Here in my terms, the 1st that you're seeing all this.	01:04:46
	Because I am aware of it and so.	01:04:49
	I want to give those exemptions to people that are deserving of it.	01:04:51
	And and as Mr. Albo indicated.	01:04:55
	You're not approving or denying their exemption. They get that by statute.	01:05:00
	You're approving or denying the.	01:05:04
	Time of them, they get it.	01:05:05
	This year.	01:05:07
	Or next year.	01:05:08
	And then they get it forever.	01:05:10
	Right. No, I got it.	01:05:11
	Now I just I.	01:05:13
	Face that one part, right? Yeah.	01:05:14
	Missing the deadline, so no, that's good.	01:05:16
	I'm good, Mr. Chair.	01:05:20
	OK. Thank you, Shara. So.	01:05:21
	Anyway, Item 3G Vicki Martin.	01:05:24
	Is the particular person on this.	01:05:27
	So I'll call for most.	01:05:29
	Mr. Chair, I.	01:05:31
	Approve a petition.	01:05:33
	For redemption of exemption waiver.	01:05:35
	For Vicki Martin.	01:05:38
	For cashier 20.	01:05:39
	26.	01:05:41
	And I'll second that motion and a second to approve Those in favor say aye, aye.	01:05:43
	Item 3 H Information, Discussion Actually approval Denial Petition for redemption of the exemption waiver from William Bolt	01:05:48
	Junior.	01:05:51
	Petitioning to have the individual tax exemption for parcel number.	01:05:55
	3044.	01:05:58
	07 B which is being waived by.	01:06:00
	There's 1A revised statute.	01:06:03
	Reduce of the tax year 2026.	01:06:04
	Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the Board.	01:06:07
	William Bolt, junior qualifies as a widower.	01:06:09
	He was unaware of the program, which is why he didn't get it in on a timely fashion.	01:06:13
	This property is located in.	01:06:18
	Primary assessed value of 24,513.	01:06:21
	Last, the allowable exemption brings them down to 19640 and the savings of.	01:06:24
	$100.	01:06:30
	OK. Thank you, Supervisor Humphrey.	01:06:31
	No questions to provide a client good to go.	01:06:34
	All right.	01:06:36
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve a.	01:06:38
	Petition for redemption of redemption favor.	01:06:41
	From William Bolt, Junior Protect share, 2026.	01:06:44
	I'll second it. Motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	01:06:48
	Aye, aye.	01:06:52
	Item number three I Information, discussion, action to approve or deny A petition for redemption of exemption Waiver from William	01:06:53
	J Barclay. He's petitioning to have the individual tax exemption.	01:06:58
	Article #304.	01:07:03
	31005C.	01:07:05
	Which is deemed waived by the statute Redeemed for the tax year 2026.	01:07:07
	Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the Board.	01:07:11
	William J Barkley qualifies for a partial exemption as a Littler.	01:07:13
	He was very sick during the application timeframe, which is why he didn't make it in.	01:07:17
	His property is located in Payson.	01:07:22
	Assessed value at 21,292 savings.	01:07:24
	Available deducted from that bringing it down.	01:07:28
	And he'll have.	01:07:32
	A forgiveness amount of about $680.	01:07:34
	Yeah, the only question I have is I is.	01:07:40
	For a waiver for William J Barclay.	01:07:43
	And in my.	01:07:47
	In my paperwork it's moved to approve.	01:07:51
	A redemption for exemption waiver for Mary F Low.	01:07:55
	And and so.	01:07:59
	I I'm not sure if.	01:08:02
	If I'm doing if you look at I.	01:08:05
	That's what I got too.	01:08:08
	And so I'm not.	01:08:09
	Not sure.	01:08:10
	And I and I don't mind using.	01:08:13
	Of for William J Barclays name and that.	01:08:15
	But I don't.	01:08:19
	I exclude Mary F Low if that's.	01:08:20
	Tomorrow is this a type Is.	01:08:24
	OK. So if you could, any suggested motion would include William J.	01:08:26
	OK, not F low.	01:08:31
	OK, that's that's the only question I had. And so I'm.	01:08:33
	I'm good.	01:08:37
	OK, Supervisor Klein.	01:08:38
	No, I'm good.	01:08:40
	Hey, Cortana, Confirmation. OK, I move.	01:08:41
	To approve a petition of redemption.	01:08:44
	Of exemption.	01:08:47
	Waiver for William J.	01:08:48
	Orkley, or Tax year 20.	01:08:51
	Six. I'll second that motion in a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	01:08:54
	I very good on to Jay. Information, discussion, action, approval deny A petition for redemption.	01:08:59
	Of exemption waiver from Eva.	01:09:06
	Maria Olsen.	01:09:08
	Patricia to have the individual tax exemption for her parcel 30420.	01:09:10
	095 which is being waived by.	01:09:15
	The state statute.	01:09:18
	2026.	01:09:20
	Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the Board.	01:09:22
	Eva Maria G Olsen qualifies for a partial exemption as a widow.	01:09:24
	She was unaware of the program.	01:09:28
	Which is why she didn't file timely.	01:09:31
	For properties located in Page.	01:09:33
	Primary assessed value of $8911.00 Which?	01:09:35
	The exemption available exemption cuts that in half.	01:09:39
	And gives her a savings of approximately $600.	01:09:43
	OK, Supervisor Humphrey.	01:09:47
	Questions. Good.	01:09:49
	He said her assessed values 8000.	01:09:53
	Dollars 8900 so it brings it down to 4000.	01:09:55
	OK. All right. Thank you. I'll call for a motion.	01:10:00
	Michael, move to.	01:10:04
	Approve a petition for redemption of exemption waiver for Eva Marie Olson for tax year 2026.	01:10:06
	I'll second that motion in a second to approve. Those in favor say aye aye.	01:10:13
	Hey, information, discussion, action, approval, denial, petition for redemption of exemption, waiver from Virginia.	01:10:18
	There, that's just going to have the individual tax exemption for parcel 20805343.	01:10:24
	Is deemed waived by the ARS. Redeemed for tax year 2026.	01:10:32
	Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the Board.	01:10:36
	Virginia Bear.	01:10:38
	Qualifies for a partial exemption as a widow.	01:10:40
	She was waiting on her income tax return to be finalized, which is why she was not timely.	01:10:44
	Her property is located in Globe.	01:10:48
	For assessed value 13,105.	01:10:51
	Remove the allowable exemption from That takes it down to 8232 for a savings of approximately $500.	01:10:54
	Advisor, no questions. Advisor Clyde, no good.	01:11:02
	Right, without a call from motion.	01:11:06
	I move to approve.	01:11:08
	Proof Petition for.	01:11:10
	Redemption.	01:11:12
	Of exemption waiver.	01:11:13
	Or Virginia there.	01:11:15
	I'll second that for tax year 2026.	01:11:17
	Second motion and a second Those in favor say aye.	01:11:20
	Hi.	01:11:23
	Item L Information Discussion. Action to approve or deny A petition for redemption of exemption Waiver.	01:11:24
	From John Altman.	01:11:31
	Patricia didn't have the individual tax exemption for Parcel 302.	01:11:32
	36568.	01:11:36
	It's deemed to be waived by the ARS for tax year.	01:11:38
	2026.	01:11:41
	Thank you, Mr. Chair, members of the Board.	01:11:43
	John Alterman qualifies for a fool.	01:11:45
	Property tax exemption as a 100% disabled veteran.	01:11:48
	He was waiting on necessary paperwork.	01:11:52
	Under the file.	01:11:54
	His property is located in Payson.	01:11:57
	The assessed value is 12,122, which is completely wiped out.	01:12:00
	And that gave him a tax forgiveness, but.	01:12:05
	Just under.	01:12:07
	On which 1500?	01:12:09
	1500 Supervisor Hunter.	01:12:11
	No question.	01:12:13
	Mr. Klein, I'm good.	01:12:14
	I think you'll call for motion.	01:12:16
	I'll make the motion to.	01:12:18
	Approve a petition.	01:12:19
	Exemption of exemption waiver from John Altman for tax year 2026.	01:12:21
	Our second motion and a second to approve those in favor say aye aye.	01:12:26
	Aye, last one, Shara.	01:12:31
	Item 3. M Information discussion action Approve or deny A petition for redemption of exemption.	01:12:32
	We were from Brenda Sue Tab.	01:12:37
	Martin petitioning to have the individual.	01:12:41
	Exemption for parcel #30407005B.	01:12:44
	And deemed waived by the ARS for tax year 2026.	01:12:49
	Thank you, Mr. Chair, Members of the.	01:12:54
	Board Brenda Sue Tab Martin qualifies for a partial exemption as a widow.	01:12:56
	She was unaware of the program, which is why she didn't timely file.	01:13:01
	Her property is located in Payson.	01:13:04
	She also has a property in Maricopa County, and part of the statute is that the assessed value of.	01:13:06
	All properties that they own.	01:13:12
	Is taken into consideration to be under the.	01:13:14
	A statutory cap.	01:13:17
	She is still under the cap even with both of her properties that she owns.	01:13:19
	So, for Gila County's purposes, her assessed value is 10,355.	01:13:24
	Remove the allowable exemption. That leaves her 5482.	01:13:30
	Gives her a tax forgiveness of just over.	01:13:34
	$500.	01:13:37
	$500 Thank you. Better, Humphrey.	01:13:38
	No questions.	01:13:42
	Supervisor Klein.	01:13:43
	Hey, Motion.	01:13:45
	Here I move the petition of redemption of exemption waiver.	01:13:48
	Or Brenda.	01:13:52
	To have my.	01:13:54
	For.	01:13:56
	26.	01:13:58
	I'll second that motion and 2nd to approve. Those in favor say aye aye.	01:13:59
	Aye, thank you.	01:14:03
	Thank you very much.	01:14:05
	All right, Item 3 N is information discussion action to authorize the ad.	01:14:06
	Kaisenmann of requests for.	01:14:11
	Proposal number Gil RFP2026001.	01:14:12
	And that is the do E.	01:14:19
	Weatherization and other repair rehabilitation services.	01:14:21
	And perform weatherization and rehabilitation services to.	01:14:26
	In accounting. Good morning, Josh.	01:14:29
	Hi, good morning, Chairman, Supervisors.	01:14:31
	We just ended our last extension with advantage.	01:14:34
	Performance. He's been doing this contract.	01:14:37
	Over the last three years.	01:14:40
	I will say that we've received.	01:14:41
	Just amazing customer service scores for them. I know nobody's here for them but.	01:14:44
	Just to the supervisors do know.	01:14:48
	It's kind of crazy to see contractors going in out of people's houses and receive the kind of feedback that we receive about the	01:14:51
	work they do so.	01:14:54
	Put that out there.	01:14:58
	It is time to go out to bid again, hopefully as we.	01:14:59
	Before we see some local bidders.	01:15:02
	That the new.	01:15:04
	Procurement system that Olivia put together might actually help.	01:15:05
	To get this out and get us a little more.	01:15:08
	Expansion up here to more vendors applying.	01:15:11
	Like I said, we've gotten really good work done from the contractor we have, but we do receive.	01:15:14
	Usually a three to $4000 per trip charges from the current consultant we have.	01:15:19
	So if we had the local bids or other bidders, we could probably do things more efficiently and get more homes covered. So.	01:15:24
	Hopefully this gets out there.	01:15:30
	We're able to get more.	01:15:32
	That's just everyone's aware.	01:15:33
	So typically we this is the one that we receive money from lots of different pots of money. We get money from department housing,	01:15:35
	Department of Energy, from all utility providers, from CDBG.	01:15:39
	Funds from the state.	01:15:45
	So this is just a whole bunch of different pots of money that go together that.	01:15:46
	In the last three or four years is typically between like 570 and you know.	01:15:50
	Right towards the end of COVID like 870, eight, $180,000 a year. So that's about the amount of money that goes out.	01:15:54
	Typically we do some of the projects with local vendors when they're like just primarily HVAC or some other kinds of.	01:16:00
	Of work that it can be bid locally, but for most of it. So probably 7580% of it goes out to these.	01:16:07
	Once a week contract help with.	01:16:14
	Thank you, Josh.	01:16:16
	Advisor Humphrey.	01:16:18
	I have no questions and thank you Josh for working with the locals that you can.	01:16:19
	And I understand that you can on the weatherization certification on others.	01:16:23
	And we don't have anybody that I know of local that has reached out for that, but.	01:16:28
	Hopefully someday there will be, so thank you for.	01:16:33
	Working on that.	01:16:37
	Thank you supervisor client.	01:16:38
	Thank you, Josh.	01:16:40
	Thank you. With that, I'll call for motion.	01:16:42
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to authorize the advertisement of the.	01:16:44
	Request for proposals numbered.	01:16:47
	GILRFP.	01:16:51
	2026001.	01:16:52
	And I'll second that.	01:16:55
	The motion and a second to approve those in favor say aye aye.	01:16:57
	Aye, aye, Josh.	01:17:00
	All right, we've already dealt with item 3 O.	01:17:03
	We're going to go on to Item 3, P Information, discussion action.	01:17:06
	To certify the collection amounts for the Superior Court.	01:17:09
	862,750.	01:17:12
	$0.95 for the Payson Regional Justice Court.	01:17:15
	The Superior Court was at the Payson Regional Justice Court IS 708,000.	01:17:21
	$590.63 in the globe.	01:17:27
	Regional Justice Court $789,247.22.	01:17:30
	For fiscal year 24.	01:17:36
	Through 25 and.	01:17:39
	Authorized the Chairman signature on the certification form.	01:17:40
	Yeah. Thank you, Mr. Chair.	01:17:44
	Good morning, Supervisor Humphrey. Supervisor Klein.	01:17:47
	This is certifying the report we received from the county Treasurer's office.	01:17:50
	Which reports the.	01:17:55
	Directions for Superior Court.	01:17:57
	He's in regional Joe.	01:18:00
	For Anglo Regional Justice Court.	01:18:01
	And requesting.	01:18:04
	Chairman Signature on the.	01:18:05
	Thank you. That's a lot of money there.	01:18:08
	That is a lot of.	01:18:11
	Have a very busy court system.	01:18:12
	Yes.	01:18:14
	Other Humphrey.	01:18:17
	No questions asked.	01:18:18
	I'm good. Thank you, Mayor.	01:18:21
	Good too. So we'll call for motion.	01:18:22
	Mr. Chair, I'd love to certify the collection amount.	01:18:25
	But a Superior Court?	01:18:28
	Patient regional justice.	01:18:29
	And Globe Regional Justice Court for physical year 2024-2025.	01:18:31
	And authorized German signature.	01:18:36
	On the on the certification form.	01:18:39
	I'll second that.	01:18:41
	Motion to approve.	01:18:43
	And seconded, those in favor say aye aye.	01:18:44
	Thank you.	01:18:48
	All right, let's go on to item.	01:18:49
	Three Q.	01:18:52
	Information Discussion. Action to approve amendment #4.	01:18:53
	The contract number PTR 06/3.	01:18:56
	770.	01:19:00
	Digitizing permit and parcel files.	01:19:01
	With Iron Mountain Incorporated for.	01:19:04
	Renewal of the Insight software subscription.	01:19:07
	For the period of July 125 through June 30th.	01:19:10
	26 in the amount of $11,931.	01:19:14
	And $0.84, Good morning, Randy.	01:19:17
	Money surprises.	01:19:21
	So as you remember, this is part of the digitization of all.	01:19:22
	While I was going through.	01:19:27
	That has been completed.	01:19:28
	This is a program to let the view.	01:19:30
	The scans.	01:19:32
	There were some errors in the contract as far as when they ended and stuff.	01:19:36
	Why we're coming kind of at the end of it.	01:19:41
	We had to get it renewed.	01:19:44
	Go through that process that's been done, you guys.	01:19:46
	To prove that. So now we're paying for that program.	01:19:48
	Of $11,000.	01:19:53
	Excuse me?	01:19:56
	With that, I'll answer any questions.	01:19:56
	OK. Thank you. Supervisor Humphrey, I have no question.	01:19:58
	County supervisor club. I'm good, Randy. Thank you.	01:20:01
	And as well, So thank you for what you're doing and I'll call for motion.	01:20:03
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to approve amendment #4 to contract number.	01:20:07
	Are 063770.	01:20:13
	The Iron Mountain Incorporated as presented.	01:20:17
	Mr. Chair, I'll second that motion and a second to approve the.	01:20:19
	Say aye, aye.	01:20:23
	Thank you, Randy.	01:20:25
	Item 3R Information discussion action.	01:20:26
	To approve amendment #1 to the intergovernmental agreement with the.	01:20:29
	Hastened by two.	01:20:32
	10 yard roll off bins and one time payment of $8000.	01:20:34
	In support of the annual Payson Household and Electric.	01:20:38
	Electronic Waste Day.	01:20:42
	Event, good morning.	01:20:44
	Morning, Mr. Chairman.	01:20:45
	Supervisor Humphreys.	01:20:46
	Thank you for the time.	01:20:48
	And this this item is being brought to you.	01:20:50
	At the request of the town of Payson for us to.	01:20:53
	Partnering with them on the household hazardous waste and electronic waste is both.	01:20:55
	This is a program that they've been offering since 2021 and we've been helping with them.	01:20:59
	Helping them with that.	01:21:04
	It shows that this this agreement is.	01:21:06
	The amendment for this one is is to specify that we will provide 210 yard roll off Dins and.	01:21:10
	A donation of.	01:21:15
	$8000 to help support the parents.	01:21:18
	And this is for patient.	01:21:20
	We have not.	01:21:22
	Been the city of Globe.	01:21:23
	Hasn't approached us for doing it.	01:21:26
	Here in the city of Love, but we were willing to do that if they were to approach us.	01:21:28
	OK, be happy to answer 3.	01:21:32
	And that was going to be my question, $8000, does that come out of general fund?	01:21:35
	We'll get back to you on that.	01:21:48
	OK. Yeah, because.	01:21:50
	You know, town and facing.	01:21:52
	Town of Miami.	01:21:54
	City Globe. Donna Hayden.	01:21:55
	That's OK, you can get back to me. I would just.	01:22:07
	Don't know, just asking.	01:22:15
	OK.	01:22:18
	5:00 I'm good.	01:22:20
	You know, is this what we did last year, 8000 is it's kind of a repeat.	01:22:23
	It is OK.	01:22:28
	All right. And we don't know the date yet, do we?	01:22:29
	No, I haven't heard.	01:22:31
	Yeah, OK.	01:22:33
	All right, So I'll call for a motion.	01:22:34
	Mr. Chair, I moved to approve amendment #1 to the Inter.	01:22:37
	Governmental, uh.	01:22:40
	Agreement with Ton of Payson as presented.	01:22:41
	I'll second that motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye aye.	01:22:44
	Aye, thank you.	01:22:47
	Thank you, Matt.	01:22:49
	3S information discussion action to adopt revised merit system.	01:22:51
	Rule 4.	01:22:55
	Announcements.	01:22:57
	Patients and examinations recruitment.	01:22:58
	And selection process to include.	01:23:01
	Employment preferences as set forth.	01:23:04
	By the Arizona Revised Statute to be in effect April 21st.	01:23:07
	2026.	01:23:11
	Good morning, Rick.	01:23:13
	Good morning.	01:23:14
	Jim Advisors, Klein and Supervisor Humphrey.	01:23:14
	Thank you very much. I'm here today to.	01:23:18
	Present modification of our code to.	01:23:21
	Our policies to include the.	01:23:25
	Employment preferences, which?	01:23:28
	Are entitled by statute.	01:23:31
	Qualified veterans.	01:23:32
	Disabled veterans.	01:23:34
	That spouses and disabled individuals.	01:23:35
	Go into the statute.	01:23:39
	Although our current applications provide for applicants to claim such.	01:23:40
	Preferences. Uh.	01:23:45
	This policy sets forth the manner in which preferences.	01:23:46
	Are provided particularly.	01:23:50
	When our applicants.	01:23:52
	Are primarily interviewed in this county as opposed to testing.	01:23:53
	The statute provides us.	01:23:58
	As included in the statute, that.	01:24:00
	A veteran with the armed forces is.	01:24:02
	With armed forces.	01:24:04
	Of the United States who?	01:24:06
	Is separated from the armed forces.	01:24:07
	Under honorable conditions following more than six months.	01:24:09
	Active duty.	01:24:12
	Who takes an examination for employment shall be given.	01:24:14
	Five point preferences.	01:24:18
	Over persons who other than veterans.	01:24:22
	The veteran earns a passing grade in his examination.	01:24:26
	The five points is also given to our surviving spouse of a veteran.	01:24:30
	And this is upon initial hiring.	01:24:35
	In the county, it's not for.	01:24:37
	Promotional opportunities, that's the initial preference pursuant.	01:24:39
	To this.	01:24:43
	Provision.	01:24:44
	Veterans separated who?	01:24:46
	From active duty if.	01:24:48
	In the armed forces.	01:24:50
	Who have service connected disabilities.	01:24:51
	Receive a preference of 10 points.	01:24:54
	And a person with disabilities shall be given.	01:24:56
	Preference of five.	01:24:58
	The total preference.	01:25:00
	It provided pursuant.	01:25:01
	To this provision.	01:25:04
	Cannot exceed 15 points.	01:25:06
	Paragraph 6 is separate and is a little discretionary for the county and that sets forth.	01:25:10
	That a person is eligible for a preference pursuant to this section.	01:25:16
	They apply for employment with the county under a merit system.	01:25:19
	Of employment in which applicants are assessed and evaluated but are not.	01:25:22
	Not provided testing.	01:25:26
	Where scores are given, the preference shall be given.	01:25:29
	By granting the qualified applicant and interview.	01:25:32
	Such positions.	01:25:34
	If as a result of this interview, the applicant is deemed.	01:25:36
	To be qualified.	01:25:40
	For the preference.	01:25:41
	Has any other?	01:25:43
	As any other applicant not deemed.	01:25:46
	Eligible for the preference.	01:25:49
	And both applicants are indistinguishable.	01:25:50
	Based upon their assessments and evaluation.	01:25:53
	The applicant who is eligible for employment preference shall be selected.	01:25:55
	For employment. So that's a way that we can.	01:25:59
	Assess our uh, uh.	01:26:02
	Applicants and.	01:26:03
	Give them these preference points so.	01:26:04
	Those that are eligible.	01:26:07
	Will automatically.	01:26:08
	He interviewed.	01:26:10
	And upon interviewing, if they're equal to.	01:26:11
	Someone without the preference, they shall be selected.	01:26:14
	And we have a form that they will set up.	01:26:17
	Be able to access on our.	01:26:20
	Online, Uh.	01:26:22
	Where they can claim the preference point.	01:26:22
	And provide these supporting documents.	01:26:24
	Does anyone have any questions?	01:26:28
	Super Humphrey.	01:26:29
	You know what prompted this update?	01:26:31
	Of our.	01:26:34
	It has been in statute again, we've been following that, but this there is that.	01:26:35
	Void, uh.	01:26:40
	Particularly in.	01:26:41
	Where tests aren't given.	01:26:43
	And that's kind of discretionary as indicated and I want to.	01:26:45
	Make sure that.	01:26:48
	Even though we follow the statute points or.	01:26:50
	Are awarded that this sets forth.	01:26:52
	When we're not testing somebody and we're doing, we primarily do interviews in the county for.	01:26:55
	Positions and this sets forth the manner in which we can award these.	01:26:59
	Points to people that are being interviewed.	01:27:03
	Yeah, no, I think it's a good upgrade, so thank you.	01:27:06
	Thank you.	01:27:10
	This is for.	01:27:12
	Excuse me, it's.	01:27:13
	For initial employment.	01:27:14
	Yes.	01:27:15
	Thanks.	01:27:16
	So it doesn't apply to anyone that wants to move up the ladder once employed.	01:27:18
	Pursuant to the staff, no preference.	01:27:22
	Right and.	01:27:25
	These points, are they based on?	01:27:26
	Under point system.	01:27:28
	I mean, five points, 10 points. What's the people pointed?	01:27:30
	It depends on who's doing it, and we evaluate that with.	01:27:33
	I think the Sheriff's Office is the primary one doing the testing.	01:27:38
	And we're working through that with the Sheriff's Office.	01:27:41
	Yeah, it's just interesting to me.	01:27:44
	The the more disabled they are.	01:27:48
	The more likely they're going to get the job so.	01:27:51
	We're going to qualify them.	01:27:54
	In other words, their disability won't affect the outcome of their performance, right?	01:27:56
	They're just just disabled.	01:28:01
	And yeah, I I think it's good.	01:28:03
	It's a little hard to determine, I suppose.	01:28:07
	This what was the word?	01:28:11
	Indistinguishable.	01:28:14
	The indistinguishable difference like we don't distinguish the difference so.	01:28:16
	That's hard for people to do.	01:28:21
	Yes, in an interview.	01:28:23
	And if likability or.	01:28:25
	You know, uh.	01:28:27
	They're exactly the same.	01:28:29
	You know, that's right. That's hard to.	01:28:31
	Anyway, so OK, so today we're voting on whether we're going to adopt this new.	01:28:33
	Section.	01:28:37
	Yeah, into there that we've been practicing all along anyway.	01:28:38
	The the portions that the points are given that statutory and.	01:28:42
	When qualified applicants for initial.	01:28:47
	Term of employment.	01:28:50
	Are awarded those? Yes.	01:28:51
	Thank you.	01:28:53
	Thank you. All right. I'll ask for a motion.	01:28:54
	The motion to adopt the revised merit system. Rule 4.	01:28:57
	As presented.	01:29:01
	April 21st, 2026.	01:29:03
	I'll second that.	01:29:05
	Your motion in a second to approve Those in favor say aye aye.	01:29:07
	Aye aye item.	01:29:10
	3T information discussion action to approve a contract.	01:29:12
	Number Ctr. 059032 Dash.	01:29:16
	GC1 with.	01:29:19
	Terry Environmental Services Incorporated for detention.	01:29:21
	Senator, dirt removal and fence clearing.	01:29:25
	For the term of April 21st, 26th, due March 1st.	01:29:29
	47 for contract.	01:29:32
	Amount not to exceed $78,900.	01:29:35
	Good morning, Joseph.	01:29:38
	Morning Chairman, Board of Supervisors to build on.	01:29:39
	The chairman outlined the original issue.	01:29:42
	At This site is the long term erosion along the southern eastern.	01:29:44
	Embankments of the detention center during globe, which overtime has allowed soil.	01:29:48
	And debris to communicate.	01:29:52
	Accumulate along the permanent.	01:29:53
	Perimeter fence.	01:29:56
	That condition was significantly.	01:29:58
	Accelerated by the flood events this last September.	01:29:59
	Which push additional material.	01:30:03
	Into the area.	01:30:05
	And overwhelmed portions of the existing drainage.	01:30:06
	Since then.	01:30:09
	We're seeing in a continued build up.	01:30:10
	Along the fence line.	01:30:13
	That is starting to impact drainage flow and place added stress on the fence.	01:30:14
	System.	01:30:19
	Well, it is not at this point of failure today, it is trending in that direction.	01:30:20
	If we don't address it in a proactive way.	01:30:25
	We initially pursued a traditional bid process, however.	01:30:27
	As the site conditions changed, the original scope and pricing no longer reflected.	01:30:31
	The actual work required.	01:30:37
	Rather than.	01:30:38
	Move forward with something that didn't align with the current conditions.	01:30:39
	Who transitioned to estate cooperative contract?	01:30:43
	This allowed us to stay aligned with state guidance and positions accounting appropriately for.	01:30:46
	Projects tied to the flood related events.	01:30:51
	On their approved contracting list.	01:30:54
	The total will not to exceed $78,900. That includes approximate.	01:30:57
	6000 or.	01:31:02
	$6000 to set aside for.	01:31:04
	Potential engineering.	01:31:05
	Support if needed once the work begins.	01:31:07
	With that, I'd be happy to take any questions.	01:31:09
	Thank you, Supervisor Humphrey.	01:31:11
	Yeah, Joseph, no question, just thank you very much for.	01:31:13
	Keeping an eye on these projects and like you say, as things need to change or the project changes for.	01:31:17
	Keeping up on things like that, you're juggling an awful lot of projects, so.	01:31:23
	Appreciate the.	01:31:27
	The the thoroughness that you that you work with in in keeping us on.	01:31:29
	Project. Thank you.	01:31:34
	Joseph, thanks for putting this together, but.	01:31:37
	This just went to the state procurement process.	01:31:40
	Originally we went out for the bid process and then once the storms came in.	01:31:43
	It changes significantly. So in order for us to be able to still meet that timeline.	01:31:47
	It is transitioned over into the state procurement.	01:31:51
	We had conversations with.	01:31:56
	Finance department and they also found value.	01:31:57
	Because of how we're looking to potentially.	01:32:00
	Select projects like this for return on.	01:32:03
	Or return from.	01:32:07
	Flood events.	01:32:09
	That these contractors were selected on a very.	01:32:10
	Specific list.	01:32:13
	Off that state contract.	01:32:15
	I'm just curious because there we have a lot of people in.	01:32:17
	The area that moved dirt.	01:32:19
	You know, so I.	01:32:22
	I was curious why.	01:32:23
	We ended up going through the state.	01:32:24
	Yes, Sir.	01:32:27
	OK. Thanks, Joseph. Are we doing anything to prevent it from sliding down again? What are we doing to keep the dirt where it	01:32:28
	belongs?	01:32:32
	Anything.	01:32:36
	You throw some rocks on there.	01:32:37
	Chairman, Board of Supervisors, that's a great question. So we are looking to the future. We have a small contingency here for.	01:32:40
	Design side of it to see what we can potentially build out.	01:32:46
	Whether it's Gabby and Wall or some other retaining.	01:32:50
	But that's going to be a future project.	01:32:55
	Focuses to primarily focus on.	01:32:57
	Getting it.	01:32:59
	Security OK.	01:33:00
	Thank you. With that, I'll call.	01:33:02
	This year I moved to approve contract number CPR 05.	01:33:05
	9032 Dash.	01:33:08
	JC one of.	01:33:11
	What carry environmental services incorporated as presented?	01:33:13
	I'll second that motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye aye.	01:33:18
	Aye, aye.	01:33:22
	Three U information discussion.	01:33:24
	Action to authorize.	01:33:28
	The adverse amount of requests for proposal number 08.	01:33:30
	012025.	01:33:33
	The Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat Historic Cabin Electric.	01:33:36
	Draco Modernization.	01:33:39
	Thank you, Chairman.	01:33:43
	This item is requesting authorization to advertise a request for proposal for electrical modernization of the historic cabin at	01:33:45
	the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat.	01:33:49
	The cabin dates back to the 1930s and is listed on the National registry.	01:33:54
	History of places.	01:33:58
	Well, it's been all preserved. The electrical system is outdated and no longer meets current code or safety standards.	01:34:00
	This project will bring the electrical infrastructure up to 2023.	01:34:06
	National Electrical Code and Arizona Standards.	01:34:10
	While preserving the building's historic character.	01:34:13
	Operationally, this allows us to safely use the cabin for short term lodging.	01:34:16
	Or visiting veterans.	01:34:20
	Improving reliability and overall usability.	01:34:21
	And also to look at sustainable.	01:34:24
	Projects.	01:34:26
	In the future, such as adding.	01:34:27
	HVAC systems.	01:34:29
	To that location.	01:34:31
	Today's request is just the advertisement forbid so that we can obtain a competitive.	01:34:34
	Over and bring back a recommendation to the Board of Supervisors.	01:34:37
	With that, I'd be happy to take any questions.	01:34:41
	Supervisor Humphrey.	01:34:43
	Yeah, working on historic buildings could get.	01:34:45
	Extremely difficult in updating.	01:34:50
	Because there's a very fine line on what you can and can't do and what's expected and isn't expected, so.	01:34:52
	Yeah, that that's going to be.	01:34:58
	Interesting to see where that goes.	01:35:00
	That's all, Mr. Chair.	01:35:05
	Thank you, Supervisor Klein.	01:35:06
	I'm I'm good, Joseph this.	01:35:08
	It's been a long time coming, so.	01:35:10
	And and one thing to.	01:35:12
	Supervisors Humphrey.	01:35:14
	Thoughts There's.	01:35:16
	We're fortunate in the fact that shipboat's already cleared us for all the improvements on the inside of that.	01:35:18
	Household that helps.	01:35:22
	Thank you for putting this together.	01:35:25
	You bet.	01:35:27
	Joseph I.	01:35:28
	There's two historic.	01:35:29
	So this is just for one.	01:35:31
	That is correct.	01:35:33
	Chairman, this is just for the one.	01:35:34
	If you're familiar with the property as you're going up to the rear end of it.	01:35:36
	It's off to the left.	01:35:39
	The right side 1 is going to have a different use case. Use.	01:35:41
	Yeah, with the site.	01:35:45
	So yeah, there's the house and then there's like the office or whatever.	01:35:46
	Correct. So are we going to look at that one later?	01:35:49
	I said that one after discussions with stakeholders.	01:35:53
	We uh.	01:35:56
	The Electrical.	01:35:57
	Is sufficient enough to carry its current use.	01:35:58
	We just have to really pay attention to how we do maintenance. But its current setting is.	01:36:01
	All right, excellent. With that, I'll call for motion.	01:36:05
	Mr. Chair, I'll make the motion to authorize that.	01:36:09
	Request for Proposals number 08012025.	01:36:12
	And then I'll second that.	01:36:17
	All right, motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye, aye.	01:36:20
	Aye, one more.	01:36:24
	Three, the information discussion action to authorize.	01:36:27
	The advertisement of requests for proposal number 08032025.	01:36:32
	Which is the Pleasant Valley Veterans Retreat generator?	01:36:37
	Installation.	01:36:41
	Thank you, Chairman. I'll keep this one moving as well. This item is for authorization to advertise for bid for generator	01:36:43
	installation at.	01:36:46
	Veterans trees as mentioned.	01:36:50
	As you know, This site is pretty remote.	01:36:53
	And when power goes out, it's not always a quick fix.	01:36:55
	Pressure on operations impacts folks.	01:36:58
	And the veterans utilizing the facility.	01:37:01
	What we're looking at.	01:37:05
	Is installing.	01:37:07
	Propane standby generators across the main.	01:37:08
	Buildings in the highest use facilities.	01:37:11
	So that we can keep things running during outages.	01:37:14
	Keeping the lights on.	01:37:18
	Maintain basic operations and avoid disruption for.	01:37:19
	The veterans and their families.	01:37:23
	This setup also allows us to go out and get the competitive proposal.	01:37:25
	And bring back the best option for the Board of Supervisors to sled.	01:37:28
	But that you have to take questions.	01:37:32
	OK. Thank you, Supervisor Humphrey.	01:37:34
	No questions.	01:37:37
	Professor Klein, I'm good. Thank you, Joseph.	01:37:38
	So 5 generators is what we're looking at to install.	01:37:40
	Yes. Have we already purchased the generators?	01:37:44
	No, Sir, that'll be part of this proposal.	01:37:47
	OK. Thank you.	01:37:49
	With that, I'll call.	01:37:50
	Mr. Chair, I move to authorize the advertisement of request for Proposal number 0803.	01:37:53
	2025 as presented.	01:37:59
	Motion and a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	01:38:01
	Aye, aye. Thank you, Joseph.	01:38:05
	We are now.	01:38:08
	For our consent agenda items.	01:38:10
	There are items A through D.	01:38:12
	Supervisor, hopefully. Would you like to examine one or more of those separately? No, I'm good. Thank you.	01:38:14
	Thank you, Supervisor Klein.	01:38:19
	I'm good, OK. And I will call for a motion.	01:38:21
	To approve consent agenda items A through D message.	01:38:24
	I'll second it. Motion a second to approve. Those in favor say aye.	01:38:28
	Aye aye, call to the public item number 5.	01:38:32
	Tyler, do we have anyone in the public that wishes to speak to the board?	01:38:36
	Yes, Sir, and thank you, Cassandra.	01:38:41
	You do.	01:38:45
	Well, now that's a development.	01:38:46
	I don't know what to do.	01:38:48
	So he didn't provide any contact information, but his name is Jason.	01:38:50
	Jason Todd.	01:38:55
	Constant OK.	01:38:57
	I'm proposing A citywide investigation into the rise of.	01:38:59
	In Chicken hawk and activity.	01:39:02
	I'm pretty sure they're coordinating on the roof and I'm sure they're up to no good.	01:39:04
	Justice for the chickens.	01:39:09
	OK, that's my call.	01:39:11
	All right. Thank you.	01:39:13
	No response.	01:39:14
	Anyone here in a globe that wishes to?	01:39:17
	Speak to the board.	01:39:19
	How many do we have on the Internet today?	01:39:23
	52 Thank you.	01:39:26
	Let's do our summary of current events, Mr. Mango.	01:39:29
	Nothing further today, Mr. Chairman.	01:39:34
	OK, Supervisor.	01:39:35
	Um, yeah, I I do have current events and.	01:39:39
	Held a Tunnel Basin community meeting.	01:39:45
	On the 7th of five.	01:39:48
	30 held a team meeting.	01:39:49
	With county manager, Deputy county manager.	01:39:51
	Help the community development.	01:39:55
	Directors on the 8th.	01:39:57
	Attended a Lincoln Day dinner on the 10th.	01:39:59
	Held a Gaithela community meeting on the 11th.	01:40:03
	Held a Roosevelt community meeting on the 13th.	01:40:07
	Attended a.	01:40:10
	A plan for a dot listening tour.	01:40:12
	Globe Miami meeting on the 13th.	01:40:16
	Was on KQFS on the 13th.	01:40:20
	And James, I'm surprised you didn't have the.	01:40:24
	Deal on this one.	01:40:26
	Attended a corab.	01:40:28
	Collaboration. Uh.	01:40:29
	Flood disaster action.	01:40:31
	Plan meeting.	01:40:33
	On the 15th.	01:40:35
	That was with the.	01:40:37
	Town of Glow, Town of Miami.	01:40:38
	And the mind.	01:40:41
	And Gila County.	01:40:43
	And they're wanting to put together.	01:40:45
	All of us to approach.	01:40:49
	Prove being together.	01:40:50
	To go forward and create a plan for.	01:40:53
	What we're gonna do?	01:40:56
	Or an action plan.	01:40:58
	For actually.	01:41:00
	Future flood events.	01:41:02
	They spoke to us that the fact that.	01:41:05
	As we all know, if everybody gets together and puts in for funding, it's it's easier to get the funding with you have all included	01:41:08
	partners.	01:41:12
	And so the town of.	01:41:16
	Miami, the city of Globe. Ask at the county.	01:41:17
	And the mind to ask if the county would be willing?	01:41:20
	To be a partner in that so that we all work together.	01:41:23
	In a. In a.	01:41:27
	In a in a plan on.	01:41:29
	On flood control for the future.	01:41:31
	So, um.	01:41:34
	With that said.	01:41:36
	When we get to the next item.	01:41:37
	I would think that that needs to be.	01:41:40
	On a future agenda item.	01:41:42
	And I will bring that up on a future agenda item.	01:41:44
	Because.	01:41:47
	I am one leg of a tripod and I told them that.	01:41:48
	I am very supportive of that.	01:41:51
	But I cannot speak for the full.	01:41:54
	And so.	01:41:57
	Umm, anyway.	01:41:59
	That is something that I would like.	01:42:00
	To bring up.	01:42:03
	When we get to that, and that's all I think.	01:42:05
	Thank you, Supervisor Klein.	01:42:07
	It's a little Saturday, April 11th. I was one of the judges.	01:42:10
	4H beef cook off at the fairgrounds.	01:42:15
	There's an all day event.	01:42:18
	A lot of kids there have a big group in the morning and a big group.	01:42:20
	The afternoon went really well I thought. Had a lot of fun.	01:42:23
	And really good to see.	01:42:27
	A lot of different people.	01:42:29
	On the 15th, I attended a Zoom meeting with Resolution Copper and county staff regarding zoning.	01:42:31
	Camp area where the tailings are.	01:42:37
	Randy was on the call, so was Michael.	01:42:40
	It was a good meeting.	01:42:45
	But one thing that came to light and I did point out.	01:42:47
	To resolution.	01:42:50
	Resolution went through a lot of that area and bought a lot of property up.	01:42:52
	I don't know the number of properties.	01:42:59
	But there's a bunch of.	01:43:03
	And so, you know, I can't help but think when we go back to the 3 1/2 percent, we operate it on and I think about things like	01:43:05
	that.	01:43:08
	And that's, that's one of the things I brought up to him was.	01:43:12
	You know, you buy this property and that's all.	01:43:16
	Well, fine, you know the owners want to sell because of.	01:43:18
	Aesthetics of the.	01:43:22
	The minor.	01:43:24
	For the tailings or the water issues that could be there, whatever it is, they want to sell some resolution bottle.	01:43:25
	But the problem that.	01:43:31
	Gila County is going to face.	01:43:33
	Is if those properties actually.	01:43:35
	Go into.	01:43:38
	Mine operations.	01:43:40
	Minds can self assess.	01:43:43
	What that means?	01:43:47
	Means we'll just have to wait and see.	01:43:48
	Because either they could drop assessments they could assess.	01:43:50
	Like, you know, they should. Whatever it is, we don't know what that's going to mean.	01:43:54
	But the bottom line is, is they did acquire a lot of property they're also looking at purchasing.	01:43:58
	Some more state lands right there. More.	01:44:04
	More adjacent to the tailings themselves.	01:44:08
	And so.	01:44:11
	They brought that up, you know that that would be.	01:44:13
	Come private property and.	01:44:15
	Yes, it would, but it's still in the mine operations and so we're still faced with those.	01:44:17
	Those assessment issues.	01:44:23
	And so.	01:44:25
	Time will tell on that, but.	01:44:26
	There there could be a big change.	01:44:28
	Later on that day I had the same meeting as.	01:44:32
	Supervisor Humphrey did.	01:44:34
	With the Globe Miami.	01:44:36
	PHP and neom and talking about the flooding and the issues.	01:44:39
	And whatnot. It went well.	01:44:44
	Lucinda and I can't think of her last name.	01:44:47
	Poconino.	01:44:49
	Do you know her last name?	01:44:50
	And I drew a blank. Anyway, she was in there in that meeting as well, so.	01:44:53
	It was a good meeting and and we'll see where that goes.	01:44:57
	April 16th.	01:45:01
	I attended the CSA.	01:45:03
	Executive board meeting.	01:45:06
	Let me back up.	01:45:07
	April 15th.	01:45:09
	I was on a zoom meeting with ECO.	01:45:11
	And we had that meeting. A lot of it had to do with.	01:45:13
	With future meetings coming up, one of the thoughts are we're going to try and put together a mining tour.	01:45:19
	This next year, Next November.	01:45:25
	And so I'll be working.	01:45:27
	On that, trying to help set that up as well.	01:45:29
	The next meeting I was I was in Phoenix at the CSA.	01:45:32
	Executing board meeting.	01:45:35
	That mostly addressed all the positions that were up to be either.	01:45:37
	Reseeded or changed out to whoever.	01:45:41
	NACO positions, the WIR position that I'm on. I'll stay on that board along with.	01:45:44
	Patrice Horsemen for for this next round.	01:45:49
	And so it was a good time there.	01:45:52
	Except as Phoenix.	01:45:56
	And then?	01:45:58
	Wednesday Tomorrow.	01:45:59
	I'll be meeting with the zoning ordinance.	01:46:01
	Update with my.	01:46:04
	Pointees and Nye.	01:46:05
	Todd, Ginger.	01:46:07
	And Travis Holder.	01:46:09
	And we're going to be talking about the upcoming zoning and.	01:46:11
	And things like that. So it should really be a good discussion, Randy.	01:46:14
	Should have lots of notes for you.	01:46:18
	And.	01:46:21
	On the 24th this Friday there will be an A dot listening session.	01:46:22
	In Young at the Retreat.	01:46:26
	So ADOT is actually sending.	01:46:29
	The part of the board members up there.	01:46:31
	To sit down with the.	01:46:33
	Folks there in Young and talk about the state highway.	01:46:35
	Coming in to Young.	01:46:38
	And whatever other issues that come up, I.	01:46:39
	I don't know what they'll be, but.	01:46:43
	Ought to be a good.	01:46:44
	Good session.	01:46:45
	And then on May 9th.	01:46:48
	From 11:00 to 4:00 there will be a picnic fundraiser in Young at the retreat.	01:46:51
	It's sponsored by the Pleasant Valley.	01:46:56
	Veterans Retreat Incorporated nonprofit along with the local veterans group.	01:46:58
	And we have Flyers to that.	01:47:02
	And it looks like it's going to be a big turn out right.	01:47:05
	A lot of people are gonna be there and.	01:47:07
	Joseph, thank you for and your people for all the work you're doing on that.	01:47:09
	That's awesome. And so it should be a good time they.	01:47:13
	As chance come up to it.	01:47:16
	Other than that, Mr. Chair, that is it.	01:47:18
	Thank you. So in reference to this.	01:47:21
	Joseph, you bring your own food.	01:47:23
	Picnic or is it?	01:47:25
	Provided.	01:47:27
	Picnic. Sounds like you bring your own.	01:47:32
	Chairman, board, supervisors. I have limited information, but from what I do understand, it's going to be barbecued.	01:47:34
	On site so you show up.	01:47:40
	You're going to get that. Oh, OK.	01:47:42
	Thank you for that clarification.	01:47:44
	Mark that down.	01:47:47
	Put it on the calendar, girls.	01:47:50
	Yeah.	01:47:52
	The other day I went to the Community College. They had a space program.	01:47:54
	Presentation there, you know they're building the.	01:48:00
	Observatory.	01:48:02
	There and so it was pretty interesting.	01:48:04
	You look community colleges.	01:48:08
	Plug in a way doing well.	01:48:10
	And I.	01:48:12
	I think has a bright future so.	01:48:15
	Also met with the.	01:48:17
	Everybody at the most, everybody at the discovery Hua.	01:48:19
	County Board.	01:48:23
	And uh.	01:48:24
	That was a good discussion as well. They do an awful lot. They have a lot of good statistics there.	01:48:28
	And I've just been meeting with.	01:48:35
	Constituents here and there about this and that.	01:48:37
	Um, I did watch a.	01:48:42
	A presentation on data.	01:48:44
	Data centers.	01:48:47
	Data center.	01:48:48
	Seems to be a huge concern. I don't.	01:48:50
	I haven't quite figured out why.	01:48:53
	It's a huge concern. I mean, they they're going to use a lot of power, so they have to figure that one out.	01:48:55
	And they do use some water, but they don't use as much as what I think everybody.	01:49:00
	Thinks they're just gonna be.	01:49:05
	Draining the coffers.	01:49:07
	So over and.	01:49:09
	In an annual.	01:49:10
	Thing and these these are.	01:49:12
	Coming. This is the future. This is the cloud.	01:49:13
	OK. And they got to have these things.	01:49:17
	And so.	01:49:19
	They said that uh, uh.	01:49:20
	A typical data center, which is.	01:49:22
	Massive. We use the equivalent of what, 41?	01:49:24
	It was 41 golf courses used.	01:49:28
	Any year. OK, that sounds like a lot.	01:49:32
	There's 266 golf courses in Maricopa County.	01:49:34
	So.	01:49:38
	That's a that's a lot of golf courses.	01:49:42
	And so I don't know if the US.	01:49:44
	Bigger is it?	01:49:47
	I don't think it's come to Gila County right away.	01:49:49
	So anyway.	01:49:51
	I just wanted to report that. Yes, Sir.	01:49:52
	Mr. Chairman, Supervisor Humphrey bringing up the.	01:49:54
	Fighting and issues.	01:49:57
	I do need to report to you that.	01:49:59
	Two weeks ago, he was approved.	01:50:02
	Going out to bond $18 million for flooding? Really.	01:50:04
	The stipple has gone out.	01:50:07
	Going to bid on the.	01:50:09
	The bids have come back.	01:50:11
	For that the.	01:50:13
	Interest rate on that money will be less than.	01:50:14
	4%.	01:50:16
	They're trying. It's it's.	01:50:18
	Based on certain.	01:50:20
	Outside.	01:50:22
	Parameters.	01:50:23
	And so but it is.	01:50:24
	It will be less than 4.	01:50:26
	That money that.	01:50:28
	Bonding that we're going to do, so that is excellent.	01:50:30
	The interest rates that were proposed or that they got back were.	01:50:33
	On up to 4 1/2 percent.	01:50:36
	The sale of the bonds will.	01:50:39
	Be on May 14th.	01:50:43
	So that is the date that the money will be available to Gila County.	01:50:45
	To be able to utilize for the flood.	01:50:50
	Remediation and relief.	01:50:52
	Projects that we have outlined that have been presented to you.	01:50:54
	So I wanted to make sure you're aware of that, that is.	01:50:57
	And that money won't be available to the county.	01:51:00
	Those projects on May 14th.	01:51:03
	Awesome. May 14th less than 4%. I would not have guessed that.	01:51:06
	That's a great number.	01:51:11
	All right, also attended a.	01:51:14
	A little thing that the town of Patient put on yesterday.	01:51:17
	About biochar.	01:51:19
	If you don't know what that is, that's turning wood kind of into charcoal.	01:51:21
	A usable product.	01:51:24
	It's sort of this.	01:51:26
	High heat, slow.	01:51:28
	Low oxygen environment turns the wood into this black charcoal.	01:51:30
	Which is beneficial anyway, so.	01:51:34
	They're looking into that.	01:51:37
	And I'm very interested in it too, so.	01:51:38
	Just kind of keep an eye on that and see whether or not we can help our.	01:51:41
	Fire wising situation.	01:51:45
	By introducing biochar if we want to do that.	01:51:48
	And then I also was on Kmog. That always goes well. So that's all I have.	01:51:51
	So let's move on now to suggested agenda items and.	01:51:56
	Supervisor Humphrey, what do you have on that?	01:52:00
	You've been on request for future agenda items. Yes, Sir.	01:52:04
	I would like.	01:52:07
	To have a.	01:52:08
	Work session.	01:52:10
	With with Freeport.	01:52:13
	Probably present because they're the ones that.	01:52:16
	Wanting to put forth.	01:52:18
	The money if we all work together to build a plan.	01:52:19
	And staff as well.	01:52:25
	To be able to get the supervisors together.	01:52:27
	To work on making a decision on whether we want to partner with the town of Miami.	01:52:30
	Of report and the City of Globe.	01:52:35
	And so like I say with unless we have a discussion on it.	01:52:38
	Then we can't go forward.	01:52:43
	With it.	01:52:45
	As a partner and so that's the reason that I would like it on a future.	01:52:47
	Agenda item.	01:52:52
	Okay.	01:52:53
	Thank you.	01:52:55
	For now, let's see if we can do that.	01:52:55
	So, so much.	01:53:00
	Thought about this a lot.	01:53:03
	And uh.	01:53:04
	Far as wheat is the county, in my opinion is is we're way behind on work sessions.	01:53:06
	And we're just getting further and further behind as we go on. But the one thing that.	01:53:11
	That keeps, kind of.	01:53:16
	Slowing me up a little bit.	01:53:19
	Is when when I came on board.	01:53:22
	Work sessions were looked at as a place where we could actually communicate.	01:53:25
	And talk.	01:53:29
	I see a change and So what I want to request is is I'd like to get.	01:53:32
	You, Joe, to hold the work session with us.	01:53:36
	On what we can actually.	01:53:41
	Discuss or how can we format something we can discuss as a board because.	01:53:43
	Without work, without being able to have discussions.	01:53:48
	As a board and work sessions.	01:53:52
	I don't know what we're doing here.	01:53:55
	I really don't.	01:53:57
	And you know, and I hate to get **** * every time you shut me down on it.	01:53:58
	On stuff like that when I think.	01:54:02
	In my mind that it's legitimate.	01:54:04
	The good to go so.	01:54:06
	I would like to ask some time that you guys put on a.	01:54:09
	Accession force that.	01:54:12
	Explains. I'm not interested in opinions.	01:54:14
	I'll be honest with you, I'm interested in black and white.	01:54:17
	What is it?	01:54:20
	We can do.	01:54:21
	To communicate as a board in work session.	01:54:23
	If I may.	01:54:27
	I think we have next.	01:54:29
	We have one coming up next time.	01:54:31
	And here we're cooperating.	01:54:32
	But I know I see. So that's the same thing as I was trying to do your day, but.	01:54:34
	But I'd like to see something.	01:54:39
	Brought out maybe?	01:54:41
	Maybe it'll.	01:54:44
	I don't know what it is.	01:54:45
	But I just I'm getting.	01:54:46
	To the point where I'm feeling like we're getting.	01:54:49
	Pinch down further and further to where?	01:54:52
	I really don't know why.	01:54:54
	Thank you.	01:54:59
	Mr. Chairman, Superline.	01:55:01
	Yes, the the Board of the Hill County Attorneys Office will work on a presentation.	01:55:03
	To cover open meeting law.	01:55:09
	And the types of discussions that the board can enter into.	01:55:12
	But it has always.	01:55:16
	Then at least my my.	01:55:18
	Impression that during work sessions.	01:55:21
	That is the time when the board can.	01:55:23
	Enter into discussions freely.	01:55:26
	Among yourselves and staff.	01:55:28
	So the staff has some direction.	01:55:30
	From the board and we've had, we've just had a number of work sessions where that has occurred.	01:55:32
	Regarding paragraphs and a few other things.	01:55:38
	It's just that you can't take any action during the work session. You can discuss them freely.	01:55:40
	So we will clarify that.	01:55:45
	During a presentation on the open meeting log.	01:55:48
	And I'll work with the.	01:55:51
	County manager and clerk to see if maybe.	01:55:54
	You want that schedule on a day other than a.	01:55:56
	Regular board meeting.	01:55:59
	If that suits the.	01:56:02
	The supervisor.	01:56:03
	One thing I'd like to make sure that the general public has a chance at listening in on this.	01:56:04
	Because, uh.	01:56:09
	Because I get a lot of questions like why can't you guys do this?	01:56:10
	Well, where do you want me to start?	01:56:13
	You know, and so.	01:56:15
	As work sessions go, Joe, I have been shot down in work sessions.	01:56:17
	And one of the things that I do know.	01:56:20
	Is uh.	01:56:23
	We may be discussing a topic.	01:56:24
	That leads into something else, and when I bring that up, I get shot down.	01:56:26
	And so I know that there's other.	01:56:31
	Councils and stuff that.	01:56:34
	Have agenda items on there to kind of cover things to where you can.	01:56:36
	You can visit.	01:56:41
	You know.	01:56:43
	But but, Mr. Chairman.	01:56:44
	Supervising Klein. We'll work on that.	01:56:46
	And when those are scheduled?	01:56:48
	Then we will work.	01:56:51
	Clerk of the board to make sure that.	01:56:53
	The agenda items are awarded so that it allows.	01:56:56
	Some discussion interplay.	01:56:59
	As the board vote.	01:57:01
	Choose the vote.	01:57:04
	Will approve or disapprove any particular item.	01:57:06
	Thank you, Joe. It will work to give you as much flexibility.	01:57:09
	As the Arizona Open meeting law.	01:57:12
	That would help.	01:57:16
	We'll call it a work session on whatever you want to say.	01:57:19
	But I do realize we have to stay within parameters of the.	01:57:24
	I'll clarify that be great.	01:57:28
	Will do the Macy.	01:57:29
	You help us out.	01:57:32
	I only have one request.	01:57:34
	Item Discover. Gila County wanted to do a presentation Mr. Menlove on May 19th.	01:57:36
	Meeting so if we can.	01:57:43
	Keep that going.	01:57:46
	May 19, for the discovery.	01:57:48
	Presentation. Umm.	01:57:51
	OK, Mr. Chairman, is that?	01:57:54
	So, OK, never mind, it's just a presentation to the board.	01:57:58
	I think it's a presentation and they.	01:58:03
	They're anticipating May 19.	01:58:06
	So I'd like to.	01:58:08
	Have some solidness to that so that they're.	01:58:09
	Prepared.	01:58:12
	OK, alright.	01:58:13
	Thank you.	01:58:15
	And now?	01:58:15
	We're going to go into a work session now.	01:58:18
	Do we need to stretch our legs for?	01:58:20
	10 minutes or something.	01:58:22
	We do. We want to roll right into that, supervisors.	01:58:24
	But I have to be fine.	01:58:28
	OK, let's let's do minister in that vicinity and.	01:58:29
	Touch your legs.	01:58:33
	Yeah, it just doesn't.	01:58:36
	It's only right once a day.	01:58:38
	OK, because of time.	01:58:46
	Go ahead and keep this thing rolling.	01:58:48
	We will have a work session so.	01:58:51
	No action on this is.	01:58:53
	Going to be information discussion for the.	01:58:55
	PSPRS system.	01:58:58
	Unfunded actuarial accrued liability discussion.	01:59:00
	It's Fund 112, the Hill County Sheriff's Office.	01:59:04
	And Marin is going to start things off.	01:59:08
	And we do have a presenter, Clark.	01:59:10
	Partridge so.	01:59:13
	Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair, on March 17th.	01:59:14
	We brought you the annual policy update.	01:59:17
	For Bosfin 116.	01:59:22
	And at that time, the Board of Supervisors asked us to.	01:59:24
	Have work session item to talk about the.	01:59:29
	Fluctuation in funding percentage.	01:59:32
	In Fund 112, Gila County Sheriff's Office.	01:59:35
	Today is the day that Mister Partridge was available to be with us to review this.	01:59:39
	So he will be presenting his information to you.	01:59:44
	OK. Thank you.	01:59:48
	Thanks for being patient.	01:59:50
	Well, thank you. It's a pleasure to be with you here today, Mr. Chairman.	01:59:52
	Members of the.	01:59:57
	Of the board.	01:59:58
	For the record, my name is Clark Partridge. I'm a senior executive consultant.	02:00:00
	And interim administrator with the.	02:00:04
	Public safety personnel retirement system.	02:00:07
	Good to be with you here today.	02:00:09
	Just a little bit about me, my first career was actually a dairy farmer.	02:00:13
	But I had a few knee offers.	02:00:19
	Patients and that didn't go well with dairy farms, so I became an accountant.	02:00:20
	And move down here to Arizona, where there's no life.	02:00:25
	And things to have to deal with with.	02:00:29
	With bad knees, but.	02:00:31
	I was a state Comptroller for a little over 18 years and.	02:00:34
	Have held another number of positions in government and.	02:00:37
	Just want to thank you for your.	02:00:40
	Civic Service.	02:00:42
	And then how important it is.	02:00:44
	For public bodies to be able to.	02:00:47
	Serve their citizens, but also for the citizens to express appreciation for those that serve.	02:00:50
	So thank you.	02:00:54
	Thank you.	02:00:56
	I want to give a little bit of background.	02:00:58
	Cover a few couple things, really quick to to discuss some concepts and then as we go.	02:01:01
	They'll be helpful in our discussion here today.	02:01:07
	This is the pension funding equation.	02:01:10
	Is relatively simple. Where the money comes from, that's from contributions.	02:01:12
	And investment returns.	02:01:17
	Where the money goes is benefits and then the expenses of.	02:01:18
	PSPRS.	02:01:22
	By far the biggest.	02:01:23
	Number in that equation is the benefit.	02:01:24
	That's the focus for the program, is to provide those pension benefits.	02:01:27
	We strive to keep the expenses down. That's one of the reasons why a lot of the different plans are.	02:01:32
	Are essentially administered.	02:01:38
	Through agent multiple employer plans.	02:01:40
	Where you don't have to have a separate investment team, you don't have to have a separate.	02:01:42
	Pension payment.	02:01:48
	Process etc.	02:01:49
	So a lot of those expenses of administering the pension are served by PSPRS.	02:01:51
	And that helps keep the cost down and gets the efficiency that.	02:01:57
	That we can get through numbers and.	02:02:01
	And sighs that way.	02:02:03
	The investment returns we have in the.	02:02:05
	Assumed rate of return of 7.2%.	02:02:07
	As you all know, the markets are not always just 7.2%.	02:02:10
	They're up, they're down, they're sideways.	02:02:16
	We try to have a diversified portfolio.	02:02:19
	That is the.	02:02:22
	Tends to mute those highs and lows and.	02:02:23
	It is built.	02:02:27
	And so that we can protect the downside.	02:02:29
	And try to maximize as much as the upside as possible.	02:02:32
	That's how we manage the portfolio.	02:02:35
	And then what doesn't made-up?	02:02:38
	Is it doesn't?	02:02:40
	Materialized through the investment returns.	02:02:42
	Is made-up with contributions.	02:02:44
	So, umm.	02:02:47
	It's very important that as you've taken the steps.	02:02:48
	To get to.	02:02:51
	Approximately 100% funded status.	02:02:53
	That's very important because you can't earn investments on dollars that you don't have.	02:02:55
	And so a lot of people think, well, you're charging us 7.2%. Well, that's really not.	02:03:01
	Through what we are doing is, is taking the dollars that you have in your pension plan and then investing that.	02:03:08
	And if the dollars are there?	02:03:15
	Earn investment returns if they're not.	02:03:18
	They just can't, much like.	02:03:20
	We do for our own retirement.	02:03:22
	We're not saving very much if I've only got $5.	02:03:24
	My retirement.	02:03:28
	I might have.	02:03:29
	Grandiose goals, but.	02:03:30
	I'm going to have to contribute a lot of additional dollars because.	02:03:32
	$5 isn't going to generate much in the way of investment.	02:03:35
	A little bit about pensions and how they work.	02:03:42
	What an actuary does when they come in.	02:03:46
	Is they will.	02:03:49
	There's a lot of assumptions and estimates and things that they have to do.	02:03:51
	To make.	02:03:56
	Reasonable estimates on what that pension liability is.	02:03:59
	And it is much like our own retirement.	02:04:02
	How much do we need for retirement?	02:04:05
	They're going to be what are our housing?	02:04:07
	And food and other costs. How much is inflation?	02:04:10
	Right. So we have all of these things that we may want to accomplish in our retirement years.	02:04:13
	So how much money do we need to make that happen?	02:04:19
	If we've been saving money all along.	02:04:22
	That there's also what, what are those savings and how much investments am I going to get from those savings?	02:04:25
	Right. So all of these things that.	02:04:31
	Typical types of things that can happen with our own retirement.	02:04:33
	Can happen with.	02:04:37
	A pension plan.	02:04:38
	And things change.	02:04:40
	I'm sure if I when I was planning my retirement.	02:04:42
	And looking at it.	02:04:47
	About 10 years ago.	02:04:49
	My inflation assumptions were far different than what they are today.	02:04:51
	Right. So we can look at a lot of those things and we have to update.	02:04:55
	Our assumptions periodically and take a new reality check.	02:04:59
	And build a different glide path.	02:05:03
	Have to how we are going to get where we need to be.	02:05:06
	OK. And so that really is fundamentally.	02:05:09
	What happens in the pension process?	02:05:13
	And the actuaries come in and one of the, one of the.	02:05:16
	Things they'll do is take all those assumptions and estimates.	02:05:19
	And they will project.	02:05:22
	A cash flow.	02:05:23
	For all.	02:05:25
	The the eligible.	02:05:26
	Recipients and what what they're going to earn.	02:05:28
	And ultimately in a pension plan.	02:05:31
	Now they have to make estimates for.	02:05:34
	How long people are going to work?	02:05:36
	What type of earnings are they going to have through their career?	02:05:37
	When are they actually going to retire?	02:05:42
	How long are they going to live?	02:05:45
	ETC Right.	02:05:47
	So all of those assumptions, but they will.	02:05:48
	Project out that future cash flow into the future.	02:05:51
	And then they will discount that cash flow at the same.	02:05:55
	Rate of return as our investment rate.	02:05:59
	Which is 7.2%.	02:06:01
	And that 7.2%.	02:06:04
	Gets to a present value of benefit.	02:06:07
	And essentially what that is, is if you had.	02:06:09
	That much in cash?	02:06:12
	And we earn 7.2%.	02:06:14
	In investment returns.	02:06:17
	Going into the future.	02:06:19
	You would have enough in cash.	02:06:21
	To be able to take care of all of those benefits.	02:06:23
	Should be fully funded.	02:06:25
	Now we know that investment returns go up and down and not everything is in the perfect world.	02:06:27
	And because React.	02:06:33
	Almost always.	02:06:35
	Differs from what our estimates are.	02:06:37
	There's going to be.	02:06:41
	Things that workout differently.	02:06:43
	Will need to be course corrected.	02:06:45
	We do those course corrections each year when we do an actuarial valuation.	02:06:47
	So all of that information that we've learned on the differences between.	02:06:52
	Reality.	02:06:56
	And what the assumptions were.	02:06:57
	Are taken into account by the actuaries.	02:06:58
	And then they make.	02:07:01
	Revised Estimate.	02:07:02
	Event essentially develop a new glide path.	02:07:03
	To what needs to be done to provide for those benefits.	02:07:07
	Now, if that present value of benefits, what the actuaries will do is they will come in and break that up.	02:07:10
	Couple of pieces.	02:07:17
	There's the amount that the employees have earned.	02:07:19
	Up to that point.	02:07:22
	So if I'm a.	02:07:23
	A sheriff officer.	02:07:25
	And a deputy and I've.	02:07:27
	Worked for 15 years and I and the actuaries estimating that I'm going to work till 25 years.	02:07:29
	The 15 years would be what I've earned.	02:07:36
	Of that salary today.	02:07:39
	The 10 years is what I'm going to earn in the future.	02:07:41
	As I work.	02:07:45
	So the actuaries would take that 25 year benefit estimate and that cash flow.	02:07:47
	And they would break that up into how much has been earned as of.	02:07:52
	The actuarial valuation date.	02:07:56
	June 3025 is the most recent valuation.	02:07:58
	And how much is going to be in the future?	02:08:02
	And that breaks that down into.	02:08:04
	The future is what's paid through the normal cost contributions.	02:08:07
	And the actual accrue liability would be.	02:08:11
	Well, that's how much.	02:08:14
	Assets I should have as well as the liability to be 100% funded.	02:08:15
	At that point.	02:08:20
	If the assets are a little less than that.	02:08:22
	To the extent that they're less.	02:08:24
	There's going to be an unfunded liability.	02:08:26
	That unfunded liability is going to be amortized.	02:08:29
	Over a period of 15 years.	02:08:32
	And that by amortizing that over 15 years?	02:08:35
	It spreads that out so it doesn't have a huge.	02:08:40
	Impact on your.	02:08:43
	Contribution rates.	02:08:44
	Which impacts your budget.	02:08:46
	Right. So a lot of the things that the actuaries will do.	02:08:48
	Both whether it's the amortization of the unfunded liability.	02:08:52
	Or the amortization of some of the gains and losses from the volatility of the investments?	02:08:56
	All of those things are designed to help spread those things out over time.	02:09:01
	And minimize the volatility to the contribution rates.	02:09:06
	Which is.	02:09:10
	Minimizes the volatility impact.	02:09:10
	On your budget?	02:09:13
	OK.	02:09:15
	That's OK.	02:09:20
	And so.	02:09:22
	What we'll do?	02:09:24
	OK, it's you, not me. That's OK.	02:09:27
	Thank you.	02:09:30
	So, um.	02:09:33
	So that's essentially how the pension works.	02:09:35
	And how this is funded when when you're fully funded you don't have an amortization?	02:09:38
	That unfunded actuarial accrue liability because it doesn't exist.	02:09:43
	But when you're when you do have one, then there's that additional cost in addition to the.	02:09:49
	It isn't advancing.	02:09:57
	Thank you.	02:10:01
	So this is now a look at your overall liability for this is just a pension portion.	02:10:03
	You can see here that.	02:10:10
	You if you look at the total accrued.	02:10:12
	Uh.	02:10:15
	Last year it was 25,000,300 and 16,902 this year is 26.	02:10:17
	578.	02:10:24
	3/28.	02:10:25
	So as a person.	02:10:27
	Works another year, they're going to earn another year towards.	02:10:29
	Their pension.	02:10:34
	And that's going to be part of that actuarial accrue liability because that's what they've earned.	02:10:35
	If you go above that in the present value of the benefits.	02:10:40
	That's the present value.	02:10:44
	Of all the benefits into the future.	02:10:47
	OK. So that's those dollar amounts that if you had those?	02:10:50
	Not that in assets.	02:10:53
	At this point in time, the 28 million.	02:10:55
	5/19, 7:41.	02:10:57
	Then that would be enough to take care of things in the future.	02:11:00
	So really where you want to be ideally is kind of between those two numbers.	02:11:04
	OK. And that's where you had been last year?	02:11:09
	This year you're not. We'll talk about that a little bit, but what I want to talk about here.	02:11:13
	In your report.	02:11:18
	Look at the actuarial present value of benefits. It also gives you the information broken down.	02:11:19
	How much of that is due to?	02:11:24
	The retirees and their beneficiaries.	02:11:27
	They're surviving spouses or.	02:11:31
	Or others. There's people who are in drop right now.	02:11:33
	When somebody goes in to drop.	02:11:38
	We calculate their retirement benefits and we pay that retirement benefit.	02:11:40
	It just goes into a drop account.	02:11:45
	Earning interest rather than get paid directly to the individual.	02:11:47
	But it's essentially the same as a retirement.	02:11:50
	Payment there are vested individuals that have vested and have.	02:11:53
	That no longer work for you, but.	02:11:58
	Will have a right to.	02:12:00
	Retire sometime in the future.	02:12:02
	And then of course you have the active.	02:12:05
	Member population. These are active employees.	02:12:07
	And each of those added up together is what makes up that present value.	02:12:09
	You can also look and see that the assets are actually a little bit lower than the.	02:12:15
	Actuarial accrued liability, so that's 26.2 million versus about 20.	02:12:22
	6.6 million.	02:12:27
	And so that leaves you with the non funded.	02:12:30
	Actuarial accurate liability of 375,000.	02:12:33
	Dollars last year.	02:12:38
	Over funded.	02:12:40
	A bit this year is that.	02:12:41
	You've had a change here.	02:12:44
	From 102 to 98.6 and one of the questions.	02:12:45
	Miranda talked to me about IS.	02:12:51
	Why that?	02:12:55
	Is changing.	02:12:56
	And the reason why is because of all these assumptions.	02:12:57
	That the actuaries are now.	02:13:00
	Updating uh.	02:13:02
	Based upon reality.	02:13:04
	And those updates.	02:13:06
	Are just.	02:13:08
	They calculate.	02:13:09
	New estimate.	02:13:11
	And it's much like in your.	02:13:12
	Budget Forecast At the beginning of the year, you'll adopt A budget.	02:13:14
	As you go throughout the year.	02:13:19
	Things don't work out exactly how you budget for them before the year started.	02:13:21
	Reality of life.	02:13:26
	Happens right?	02:13:27
	And so you have to manage those things to kind of and.	02:13:29
	Sometimes you have to adjust budgets.	02:13:33
	Sometimes you don't spend all the money. Sometimes you have other needs where there's more bigger needs than.	02:13:35
	Than what you had originally budgeted.	02:13:40
	But all those different types of things are.	02:13:43
	Adjusted as you come back.	02:13:45
	And revisit the budget throughout the year.	02:13:47
	In the pension world, it's not a.	02:13:50
	Month to month thing.	02:13:53
	It's really year to year.	02:13:55
	And it's over a much longer duration.	02:13:57
	Because you're we're talking, we manage pensions over a.	02:14:00
	20304050 year.	02:14:03
	Time frame or even more.	02:14:05
	Because from the time of.	02:14:07
	A officer may come, a deputy may start in this plan.	02:14:09
	They might be 20 something years old.	02:14:13
	And they may live to be.	02:14:16
	8090.	02:14:18
	Right. So that's a long time frame that you have to manage the liability.	02:14:19
	Or one of those.	02:14:24
	Individuals, uh.	02:14:26
	Would you advance that for me?	02:14:29
	Thank you.	02:14:30
	So, umm.	02:14:32
	As we look at this, if we look at that, the.	02:14:34
	This is a breakout that.	02:14:37
	Kind of shows.	02:14:39
	There are certain line items that we break.	02:14:41
	Out.	02:14:44
	That help?	02:14:44
	Try to explain the change.	02:14:45
	On the contribution rate.	02:14:47
	And the change on the pension?	02:14:50
	Funded status.	02:14:52
	So if we look up at the top.	02:14:54
	There's the asset experience. The asset experience is the investment returns that we.	02:14:57
	We've had.	02:15:01
	The last three years have been, you know, about double digit.	02:15:02
	Investment returns and that's above.	02:15:06
	What the actuaries are expecting of?	02:15:08
	2%.	02:15:11
	So the.	02:15:12
	The amount of the investment returns up.	02:15:13
	Above the 7.2%.	02:15:15
	Is an actuarial gain.	02:15:18
	And so that's we're doing better than expected.	02:15:20
	Right now, if we were less than 7.2%, we could still have.	02:15:23
	Let's say a 5% investment return.	02:15:28
	We still made money.	02:15:31
	But we didn't make as much as what the actuaries were expecting.	02:15:32
	So that's an actuarial loss.	02:15:35
	OK. So we have these actuarial gains and losses doesn't mean necessarily that?	02:15:38
	Lost money on investments?	02:15:44
	But we may have made either more or less than what the actuaries were expecting.	02:15:46
	So because that.	02:15:51
	Is more faith we advertise those over A7 year period of time.	02:15:53
	And cumulatively those are helping.	02:15:59
	To we have more gains than losses in that pipeline and we'll talk about that a little bit.	02:16:02
	But that's bringing down.	02:16:07
	Your contribution rate.	02:16:09
	And it's increasing.	02:16:11
	Your funded status.	02:16:12
	The liability experience, that's where the actuaries come in and assess.	02:16:15
	The salary increases.	02:16:20
	And they compare them to whether those salary increases are higher.	02:16:22
	Or lower than what they expected.	02:16:27
	Now keep in mind when they're doing their actuarial evaluations, they're looking at things over longer periods of time. They're	02:16:30
	not looking at it from year to year.	02:16:33
	But every five years we come back in and do an experience study.	02:16:38
	And we check to make sure that the assumptions are.	02:16:43
	Roughly, uh.	02:16:46
	Tracking.	02:16:47
	Approximately with what we need to be doing.	02:16:49
	And we've got another experience study that will be coming up.	02:16:52
	And this next year in 2027.	02:16:55
	As we after the 26 valuation.	02:16:58
	That we will be looking at to look at those assumptions and see.	02:17:01
	If there are any changes that we should be making?	02:17:04
	To those because it's just like landing the airplane.	02:17:08
	When you're coming into.	02:17:11
	Flying in the airplane is coming into Phoenix.	02:17:13
	They don't come in and just land it from 30,000 feet down to 0.	02:17:17
	I they're on a glide path.	02:17:20
	And they're not always on a perfect glide path. There are turbulence, there are things that they would need to go through. They	02:17:22
	may go around a thunderstorm rather than through it.	02:17:26
	Right, so as they.	02:17:30
	Do that they need to course correct and.	02:17:32
	And get back on it.	02:17:35
	The path path.	02:17:36
	That they need to be on.	02:17:38
	To safely land the plane.	02:17:39
	That's essentially the same concept that the actuaries are doing as they go through this.	02:17:41
	The other ones here quickly additional contributions.	02:17:46
	You have those. In previous years you didn't have any. This year assumption method changes.	02:17:50
	There was anything there that.	02:17:55
	Affected you?	02:17:57
	And then there's the the compensation limit update.	02:17:58
	That was really on Tier 3.	02:18:02
	Didn't affect your tears 12.	02:18:04
	Then we get to the other category.	02:18:06
	And the other category is.	02:18:08
	It decreased upon the status about 3.7%.	02:18:10
	And it literally is, and there's a description on the right there, but.	02:18:14
	It literally is.	02:18:18
	Everything else all the other assum.	02:18:20
	If people are living longer.	02:18:23
	Than they are expected to live.	02:18:25
	That's an assumption change.	02:18:28
	So let's go into the next slide.	02:18:30
	And in the next slide, we're going to look at a few of those things that are.	02:18:34
	Maybe part of that?	02:18:38
	Other category.	02:18:40
	A little bit this part of.	02:18:42
	The salary increase as well.	02:18:44
	If you look at the active line, look at the average salary.	02:18:46
	It went from.	02:18:50
	3090 three 1965 for tiers 1 and 2 to 92,766.	02:18:51
	So it actually went down.	02:19:00
	Well, it went down because if you look up in the top.	02:19:02
	You have two less.	02:19:05
	Active employees there.	02:19:06
	Than what you had the previous year.	02:19:08
	So some of those probably left the organization, either retired or otherwise.	02:19:10
	Right. So probably we're higher salaried individuals and and and are lower.	02:19:15
	And keep in mind that that annual.	02:19:21
	Average average annual salary is not.	02:19:23
	Just their base.	02:19:27
	It includes overtime.	02:19:29
	And those types of things that are part of the overall.	02:19:31
	Pensionable compensation.	02:19:35
	And what gets reported to us is a.	02:19:37
	The What portion of that salary is pensionable?	02:19:40
	And that's what we get.	02:19:45
	And that's what we calculate things on as pensionable compensation.	02:19:46
	It could be.	02:19:50
	Salary increases that you gave to the base salary.	02:19:51
	Could be overtime, et cetera, but.	02:19:54
	But all of that is part of the.	02:19:56
	Salary increase.	02:19:58
	If you look at the actives on the transfer.	02:20:00
	This is where probably one of the factors. I wouldn't even say that it's the biggest one, but it is.	02:20:03
	One that is contributing to that other category.	02:20:08
	You look at the average salary that 72,992 last year.	02:20:13
	It went up to 81,535.	02:20:18
	You went from 2.	02:20:21
	Actives that have transferred from other organizations to.	02:20:23
	Now when a person transfers to you.	02:20:28
	The liability that existed with those previous employers is paid by those employers.	02:20:32
	But you can get a portion of the liability.	02:20:38
	For those prior years.	02:20:43
	If you give them a salary increase that's higher than their average salary.	02:20:44
	That they earned previously.	02:20:51
	Then that's going to increase their average salary. For those I'll just use.	02:20:53
	In my example as I talked about before.	02:20:59
	If they had earned 15 years of service with somebody else.	02:21:01
	Now they're coming in to work for you.	02:21:05
	If you increase their.	02:21:08
	Salary of this Houston round numbers if it went up by.	02:21:10
	$15,000.	02:21:14
	And that happened to increase their average salary by $1000.	02:21:16
	Per year.	02:21:20
	OK, of that.	02:21:22
	For $1000 for the average salary.	02:21:23
	Then that $1000 for those 15 years of service.	02:21:26
	Would increase your liability.	02:21:29
	OK, so because you gave them that.	02:21:32
	Pay increase. It wasn't.	02:21:35
	Previous employers that created that liability it was your pay increase it.	02:21:36
	Across that average.	02:21:41
	Overall, so that can have a impact.	02:21:43
	It's not going to be humongous because if you gave them a $15,000 salary increase.	02:21:47
	And it happened to increase their average salary by $1000.	02:21:53
	There's only $1000 of their average salary.	02:21:57
	Right. So their average salary was $72,000 and even if it were $1000 increase.	02:22:00
	It's not going to be huge, but it will be something.	02:22:07
	You also have if you go to the next slide.	02:22:10
	You have in here, if you look specifically at the beneficiaries and the disabled retirees.	02:22:13
	If you notice.	02:22:21
	You had five last year.	02:22:22
	Beneficiaries and you still have 5.	02:22:24
	You had three disabled retirees. You still have 3.	02:22:26
	And I can tell they're the exact same.	02:22:30
	People because they all aged one year.	02:22:32
	More now at 77.6 years of age for the disabilities.	02:22:35
	It's 78.6 this year so everybody just got a year older.	02:22:40
	And there's a cost of living adjustment that came into play there.	02:22:44
	That, uh.	02:22:48
	They got a little bit of an increase.	02:22:49
	So.	02:22:52
	The key there is is that.	02:22:53
	People. The actuaries will use a table for how long people live.	02:22:55
	And that's what they will use to calculate the.	02:23:00
	The benefit and how long people are going to live.	02:23:03
	The concept though is is.	02:23:06
	The longer we live.	02:23:08
	The greater the expectation is that we can actually.	02:23:11
	Live to be longer.	02:23:14
	For example.	02:23:16
	If the average lifespan is made for me, I believe it's about 86 years old.	02:23:18
	OK Umm. Uh.	02:23:23
	Under the actuarial tables.	02:23:25
	But the older I get, the chances of me actually making it to 86 get higher and higher.	02:23:27
	The fact that the chances that I get to 90.	02:23:33
	Are going to be higher and higher.	02:23:36
	Because I've already lived through all the possibilities that would have killed me by now.	02:23:37
	Right. So as we go through some of those things that there are some things that start to pick up.	02:23:42
	A liability.	02:23:48
	Because the older people get that means that they are going to be collecting.	02:23:50
	Those benefits?	02:23:55
	Longer.	02:23:56
	If they collect the benefits.	02:23:57
	Longer, uh.	02:23:59
	Then the actuaries need to adjust their estimates for how long they're.	02:24:00
	Be receiving those benefits.	02:24:04
	And those categories are not the only categories, but I just.	02:24:07
	Focused on those because that can.	02:24:10
	Accentuate that point.	02:24:12
	Of how that.	02:24:14
	Happens.	02:24:15
	Now you want success for individuals. You want them to live a good happy life in retirement, right?	02:24:16
	But the longer they live.	02:24:22
	The more it's going to cost you.	02:24:24
	OK. Next slide.	02:24:26
	This is a slide that I put together.	02:24:29
	Really compares you to all the other county sheriffs.	02:24:31
	Offices through the state.	02:24:35
	If you look to the far right.	02:24:38
	There's increases and decreases there.	02:24:40
	In that it doesn't quite.	02:24:43
	Show everything there.	02:24:46
	Can you get the whole slide on there?	02:24:49
	This is the best you can get. OK?	02:24:51
	So, uh.	02:24:53
	But if you look at the increases there, I'll pick on Maricopa County is 6.3%.	02:24:55
	There is Cochise County was 5.9%.	02:25:02
	But everybody that increased.	02:25:06
	5% or more from the previous year.	02:25:08
	Also paid additional contributions.	02:25:12
	In that year.	02:25:15
	So the thing that made them increase their.	02:25:17
	Under status more significantly than everybody else on the list.	02:25:20
	Was that they made additional contributions.	02:25:25
	To put in additional dollars beyond just what the actuaries assumed.	02:25:28
	Now the other thing is I put on here is some.	02:25:34
	I put on Payson and Globe because there are communities within.	02:25:37
	County but also page in Camp Verde because they were had situations that were somewhat.	02:25:42
	Similar to yours.	02:25:48
	If you look the.	02:25:50
	Page decreased 3.9%. Camp Verde was.	02:25:52
	Decreased 6%.	02:25:56
	In both of their situations.	02:25:58
	They they vacillated more than you did.	02:26:00
	But in their situations, it was also mostly this other category.	02:26:06
	Because these adjustments.	02:26:11
	And it's just.	02:26:13
	Everything else taken collectively.	02:26:14
	Now sometimes.	02:26:18
	The what makes all of those things happen is that.	02:26:19
	Everything is moving together in the same direction.	02:26:23
	You might. It's.	02:26:27
	What happens is if you have a little bit of change.	02:26:29
	In a lot of different factors.	02:26:34
	And they're all moving in the same direction. They can add up to something.	02:26:36
	To be a bigger number.	02:26:39
	Than if they're offsetting each other, some are going this direction, some are going that direction.	02:26:41
	So it just sometimes it's a question of just.	02:26:45
	How those things workout in a given year.	02:26:49
	But you can see that there are other categories and other officers there.	02:26:52
	Offices. Sheriff offices.	02:26:56
	That they were going up.	02:26:59
	Or down or in different directions.	02:27:00
	But the key is.	02:27:03
	That I think Apache County was 0.0. They weren't actually zero, it still changed a little bit.	02:27:05
	It's just not as much as everybody else.	02:27:13
	But uh.	02:27:15
	A pension is never a set it and forget it thing.	02:27:17
	It's always going to be some degree of.	02:27:19
	Volatility and change.	02:27:22
	From those assumptions and estimates.	02:27:24
	Because life.	02:27:28
	Always turns out different.	02:27:28
	Than what we plan.	02:27:30
	Next slide.	02:27:31
	Are we stuck?	02:27:40
	Just thinking.	02:27:43
	There we go.	02:27:48
	Thank you.	02:27:49
	So real quick, this is your contribution rates, this is what some of the and I'll tie that.	02:27:50
	To a couple things if you look the normal cost up here.	02:27:58
	The normal cost area.	02:28:02
	That's the nine point.	02:28:04
	One 3% is the net normal cost.	02:28:05
	Which is the 16.78% of the normal cost. That's what the actuaries are.	02:28:08
	Projecting for the future.	02:28:13
	Benefits that are going to be earned by officers.	02:28:16
	As they work in the future.	02:28:19
	Is what that represents, and that's by far the vast majority of your contribution.	02:28:21
	If you take the normal cost.	02:28:26
	The actuaries actually calculate.	02:28:27
	That normal cost to be 300 and 2520.	02:28:30
	And that's just an estimate.	02:28:34
	They divide that by.	02:28:36
	Your underlying payroll, that one million 789.	02:28:37
	At the bottom.	02:28:41
	Of the page right there.	02:28:42
	And they get 16.78%. That becomes the percentage.	02:28:44
	Subtract out the employee portion of the cost and then that gives you the employer.	02:28:48
	Portion.	02:28:53
	And then you have your unfunded liability will.	02:28:54
	Get to the the.	02:28:57
	The the 19.	02:29:00
	652.	02:29:02
	Divided by.	02:29:03
	The payroll at the end is 1.09.	02:29:05
	Now keep in mind your payroll could change.	02:29:08
	On July this.	02:29:10
	First or second?	02:29:12
	This is just the payroll snapshot as of June 30th.	02:29:13
	And again the.	02:29:16
	The actuarial.	02:29:17
	Valuations are intended to be.	02:29:21
	Directionally correct.	02:29:23
	They're intended to be a glide path that's going to get you.	02:29:25
	Generally in the direction of where you need to be.	02:29:28
	Over the next 20-30 forty 50 years.	02:29:31
	OK, it's not intended to get you exactly to where you're going to be.	02:29:34
	A year from now.	02:29:38
	Next slide.	02:29:40
	This is the amortization of the unfunded liability.	02:29:42
	The total of that is 375,000. Like it?	02:29:47
	Was on the other page.	02:29:50
	And if you and what the actuary actually does is.	02:29:52
	The board adopted.	02:29:56
	That this is advertised over a 15 year.	02:29:58
	Layered, uh.	02:30:01
	Amortization.	02:30:02
	Now at one point in time it was a 15 year open amortization where?	02:30:04
	Whatever the liability is, is just amortized over 15 years.	02:30:09
	Then the next year they take whatever the liability is and they advertise over the 15 years.	02:30:13
	ETC.	02:30:18
	So in that case you never really fully get.	02:30:19
	To having the thing taken care of.	02:30:23
	When they went to a 15 year layer amortization, it takes each year's.	02:30:26
	New liability?	02:30:30
	Or in the case of your older years where you have your overfunded.	02:30:32
	It still advertises.	02:30:36
	Each one of those pieces independently.	02:30:38
	And it works itself down to 0.	02:30:40
	So that ultimately.	02:30:43
	That liability will be taken.	02:30:44
	But that doesn't mean that you can't have.	02:30:46
	A new liability created in the future or have.	02:30:49
	A gain, if you will, where you no longer have an unfunded liability.	02:30:53
	In the future.	02:30:57
	And each one of those pieces are going to be amortized over a 15 year period.	02:30:58
	So that your contribution rates don't.	02:31:03
	Go up and down in a volatile manner.	02:31:05
	OK. Which really impacts your budget?	02:31:08
	So the next one.	02:31:12
	This is a slide that really shows the investment.	02:31:14
	Returns.	02:31:18
	And the gains and losses up in B.	02:31:20
	This is.	02:31:23
	All of your.	02:31:23
	Your assets.	02:31:25
	Are shown over here in the Employer column.	02:31:26
	And the total is all of PSPRS tiers.	02:31:29
	One and two.	02:31:34
	OK. So that's the total.	02:31:35