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  • 1.  CALL TO ORDER - PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
  • 2.  REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS:   A.  Information/Discussion regarding University of Arizona Gila County Cooperative Extension programming, the impact of Gila County's support, and Fiscal Year27 funding considerations, including a request to increase the annual appropriation from $70,000 to $90,000. (Ashley Dixon-Kleiber)
  • B.  Information/Discussion to consider expanding the JAVS audio/visual system into the Globe Courtrooms and Board of Supervisors' Hearing Room. (Carrie Bartling/Jonathan Bearup)
  • C.  Information/Discussion regarding the utilization of $5,000,000 in Direct Disaster Relief Funding provided by the State of Arizona for flood recovery efforts in Gila County. (Michael O'Driscoll)
  • D.  Information/Discussion regarding the past, present, and future of the Buckhead Mesa Landfill, the remaining life expectancy of the current cell, and options for future expansion. (Troy White)
  • E.  Information/Discussion regarding the status of flood recovery projects, associated funding resources, and the0-day completion timeline requirements for NRCS Emergency Watershed Protection projects. (Matt Rencher)
  • F.  Information/Discussion to provide status updates on several roadway preservation and rehabilitation projects. (Tom Goodman)
  • G.  Information/Discussion to provide a status update for the Russell Road Project. (Tom Goodman)
  • H.  Information/Discussion regarding Intergovernmental Agreement IGA-009724-I with the Arizona Department of Transportation for the replacement of the bridge at Johnson Blvd. in Tonto Basin. (Tom Goodman)
  • 3.  CALL TO THE PUBLIC:  A call to the public is held for public benefit to allow individuals to address the Board of Supervisors on any issue within the jurisdiction of the Board of Supervisors. Board members may not discuss items that are not specifically identified on the agenda. Therefore, pursuant to Arizona Revised Statute §-431.01(I), at the conclusion of an open call to the public, individual members of the Board of Supervisors may respond to criticism made by those who have addressed the Board, may ask staff to review a matter or may ask that a matter be put on a future agenda for further discussion and decision at a future date.
  • 4.  SUMMARY OF CURRENT EVENTS:   At any time during this meeting pursuant to A.R.S. §-431.02(K), members of the Board of Supervisors and the County Manager may present a brief summary of current events.  No action may be taken on the information presented.
  • 5.  REQUEST FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S):   Members of the Board of Supervisors may request for future agenda item(s) and/or reports to be presented at an upcoming meeting. The Board of Supervisors may not propose, discuss, deliberate, or take legal action on a request for a future agenda item unless the specific matter is properly noticed for legal action. Subject to the discretion of the Chairman, the item may be included on a future regular or work session agenda.
  • 6.  EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS:   A.  Information/Discussion/Action to enter into Executive Session pursuant to A.R.S. §-431.03 (A)(3) and (7) for discussion or consultation for legal advice with the Board's attorney(s), and discussion or consultation with the Supervisors to consider the County's position regarding the County-owned property located adjacent to Gila Community College in Payson. (Joshua Beck)   IF SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS ARE NEEDED, PLEASE CONTACT THE RECEPTIONIST AT (928)5-3231 AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE TO ARRANGE THE ACCOMMODATIONS. FOR TTY, PLEASE DIAL1-1 TO REACH THE ARIZONA RELAY SERVICE AND ASK THE OPERATOR TO CONNECT YOU TO (928)5-3231. THE BOARD MAY VOTE TO HOLD AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF OBTAINING LEGAL ADVICE FROM THE BOARD’S ATTORNEY ON ANY MATTER LISTED ON THE AGENDA PURSUANT TO A.R.S. §38-431.03(A)(3). THE ORDER OR DELETION OF ANY ITEM ON THIS AGENDA IS SUBJECT TO MODIFICATION AT THE MEETING.
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It's close enough. I'm gonna call the. 00:00:00
Today's work session. 00:00:02
Tuesday, August 25th, 2026 at. 00:00:03
10 AM to order. 00:00:06
We're going to say a Pledge of Allegiance. 00:00:09
The supervisor? Christian. Sure. 00:00:11
I pledge allegiance to the flag. 00:00:16
The United States of America. 00:00:19
And to the Republic for which it stands. 00:00:21
One nation under God. 00:00:24
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 00:00:26
Okay, our regular gift. 00:00:38
Session today. Information discussion. 00:00:42
Regarding the University of Arizona County Cooperative Extension program. 00:00:45
The impact of Heedle County support and financial. 00:00:51
2027 funding. 00:00:54
Consideration, including a request to increase. 00:00:56
The annual. 00:01:00
Appropriation. 00:01:02
From 70. 00:01:03
1000 to 90,000. 00:01:05
Good morning. We have Ashley Dixon and Moore and we have. 00:01:08
Donate your as well so. 00:01:12
OK. Good morning, ladies. Good morning. Thank you for having us. 00:01:15
This is very nerve wracking. 00:01:20
So we have as you all know and I've presented to you over the last couple of years. 00:01:22
Had a decrease in our. 00:01:30
Overall operations budget from the state and the university. 00:01:32
Over the last two years, that has. 00:01:38
Added up to about 400,000. 00:01:40
In a decrease in healing county operating. 00:01:43
Funds so. 00:01:47
What we are coming to you as you all have generously provided. 00:01:48
The 70,000 appropriation over. 00:01:54
As long as I think I've been here, so nine years, and I'm sure longer than that. 00:01:57
As well as our space and that. 00:02:03
As I presented to you in the last couple years, you've. 00:02:07
Shown an interest in potentially increasing that. 00:02:11
And so I'm coming to ask humbly for the potential of increasing up to 90 or. 00:02:15
Whatever you all feel is sustainable and. 00:02:23
You know your budgets better than me, but and then we have a few kind of. 00:02:28
Things that we would like to do with that, if you would like to hear some of those. 00:02:33
I believe we'd like to hear what programs you have that you would. 00:02:38
Yeah, use that for. 00:02:42
Sure. 00:02:44
So some of the programs that we would like to kind of expand and sustain, well sustain and expand our financial literacy and 00:02:45
offering that on a wider scale, we have been doing it more. 00:02:51
In the Southern region, but if we were able financially, then we would like to offer it more in Payson, in potentially young San 00:02:58
Carlos, continue some of the options there and and then also continue with some of our nutrition. 00:03:07
And healthy lifestyle programming that we've been doing, we've been doing some. 00:03:17
Very minimal diabetes prevention in San Carlos, but we would like to expand that. The need and the want is there for that. And 00:03:23
then Tony, I brought her up today to talk about some of the. 00:03:29
The awesome things that also 4H. 00:03:35
Would like to do. 00:03:38
County wide with. 00:03:39
With uh uh. 00:03:41
A generous increase. 00:03:42
So, umm. 00:03:45
Thank you for the opportunity to talk today. 00:03:46
A couple of the things that we have talked about is. 00:03:49
Getting more programming into the outlying areas where the special. 00:03:51
Enrichment opportunities may not have otherwise existed, so I took that feedback that you had previously mentioned. 00:03:56
And I'm happy to tell you. 00:04:02
That we have expanded partnership with Hayden. 00:04:03
We are doing some spin off programming at the library there. We've had, I think it's been a great success. We've had quite a few 00:04:06
kids go up to that. So these continued opportunities to expand would allow us to give some of those special interest programming 00:04:12
to the kids who may not otherwise get to participate in a traditional 4H program. So short term intermittent projects. 00:04:19
And we have some new exciting partnerships, the Hayden Library. 00:04:26
Young 4H is just. 00:04:30
Blossoming huge. I just got off the phone with them this morning on two different program expansions that they are hoping to bring 00:04:32
out next. For each year we have a pilot program running with RIM Country Middle School. Hilo Community College is also on board 00:04:38
with introducing some workshop series that will help facilitate learning with. 00:04:44
Our younger population and then hopefully get them into the college later on as well. And then of course, our continued 00:04:49
partnerships. We've got a lot of strong partnerships in our community. 00:04:54
Ideally, what we want to be able to do is offer those enrichment programs. 00:04:58
To our kids, that's going to inspire the next generation of minors ranchers. 00:05:03
And our community professionals. So I think that the additional funding will allow us to hit those kids that may not otherwise 00:05:07
have an opportunity to participate. So our home school groups are outlying areas and just getting a little bit more resources 00:05:12
going in those areas. 00:05:17
Are there any other questions? 00:05:23
Perhaps Supervisor Klein? 00:05:24
Ladies, thank you for coming in front of us and presenting for this I. 00:05:27
I've I remember the 70,000 for quite a few years. 00:05:32
And so. 00:05:35
To be able to to give you guys some more money and expand especially to the outlying areas. It's not that. 00:05:37
We don't need expansion in the bigger areas to North and South. 00:05:43
Because that would still help. 00:05:46
But but the outlying areas and you mentioned Hayden and and Winkelmann down there. 00:05:48
That's kind of a little corner we have down there that's forgotten and so to be able to reach out in some of those areas like 00:05:53
that. 00:05:56
Is a huge plus for those kids because some of those kids don't have the ability to travel. 00:06:00
Even to globe to participate in a 4H. 00:06:05
Program, so if there's any way of doing that, that'd be good. 00:06:08
And. 00:06:12
I I I like the idea of giving them as much as we can to these kids and to the 4H. 00:06:14
Community, so thank you for being here. 00:06:19
Thank you. 00:06:21
Should invite the Christians. 00:06:22
Thank you, Chairman. 00:06:24
Thank you ladies for coming. 00:06:26
I had the opportunity to be a judge at. 00:06:28
A Bake Off. 00:06:32
Friday. 00:06:34
I have. 00:06:36
Quite honestly, the best cookie. 00:06:37
I have ever eaten in my life and I've asked Tony to try and get the recipe. 00:06:40
I was only able to have one cookie and I'm hopelessly addicted and I can't find another. 00:06:45
Supply. So it's. 00:06:50
Amazing So. 00:06:53
I've also heard at that same meeting talking with. 00:06:56
Harry and Tony about. 00:06:59
The shooting on. 00:07:00
Sports are. 00:07:02
Building up. 00:07:04
They're getting larger, bigger, more participation. 00:07:05
You want to expand into archery, you want to keep growing and doing that so. 00:07:08
I appreciate all of that. 00:07:13
Preparing our children for. 00:07:15
Their future. 00:07:16
Yeah, and I I support. 00:07:19
The 4H anything to do with our kids and get them involved in. 00:07:21
Doing things to feel better about themselves and. 00:07:25
And to work towards. 00:07:28
Understanding the finances and things of that nature and what. 00:07:30
You know, anytime you take on a challenge. 00:07:34
It helps you take on more challenges and so. 00:07:37
I supported. 00:07:40
An awful lot. 00:07:41
And we we don't always have an open checkbook. 00:07:42
You know, but but I'm sure that. 00:07:46
We'll do what we can. 00:07:48
And you know, I'm not sure where constituent funds would come in. 00:07:50
To some of that depending. 00:07:54
But anyway. 00:07:57
I fully support. 00:08:00
What what you're doing and what you want to do. 00:08:01
Mr. Chairman, I. 00:08:04
Suggested the matter be referred to the finance director, the County Attorney's office. 00:08:05
To uh. 00:08:11
Look into the matter and determine a way to. 00:08:12
To move this matter forward and then. 00:08:15
Report back to the board, perhaps in executive session. 00:08:17
What we've determined. 00:08:21
Yeah, I agree. 00:08:22
OK, So what is the next step? 00:08:24
Then I come back to an executive work. 00:08:27
I think I think the next step is. 00:08:30
There will be someone in touch with you with. 00:08:32
Future meeting? 00:08:35
When it will be an agenda item? 00:08:37
OK. And there may be some questions needed by staff? 00:08:39
Or things of that nature. 00:08:44
Prior to that. 00:08:46
And if there's. 00:08:47
If there's a deadline on that, you might reach out to. 00:08:49
County Management. 00:08:52
And Josh? 00:08:53
And let him know that, you know, we appreciate. 00:08:55
The the opportunity to discuss it. 00:08:58
But we needed it last Thursday. 00:09:01
You know, probably not, but just. 00:09:04
Anyway, yeah, just stay in touch with staff and they will keep you informed and then hopefully we will get an agenda meeting where 00:09:07
we can. 00:09:11
Vote on what and how we can do for you. 00:09:15
All right, Awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Anytime you bet. Thank you for that. Thank you. Have a great day. 00:09:18
Thank you for all you do. 00:09:22
OK. Moving on to 2B information. 00:09:28
To consider. 00:09:32
Expanding. 00:09:33
The Javs. 00:09:34
Audio, uh. 00:09:36
Visual system into the globe courtrooms and Board of Supervisors hearing room. 00:09:37
Gary Barton, how are you guys today? 00:09:43
Good morning, Mr. Chairman. 00:09:46
Members of the board. 00:09:48
Thank you for this opportunity. 00:09:49
We really appreciate appreciate the venue of a work session. 00:09:52
In the past. 00:09:57
We've appeared at work sessions before. 00:09:58
On behalf of our Justice Courts and on behalf of Superior Court. 00:10:01
And the fruits of some of those meetings actually contribute to. 00:10:05
The financial package in this proposal that you'll hear. 00:10:10
Shortly, so we're grateful for the venue. 00:10:14
And before I turn it over to Miss Bartling. 00:10:17
I do want to recognize that the proposal. 00:10:21
Which you'll hear the details on. 00:10:23
Does not only benefit. 00:10:25
The board? The courts. 00:10:27
And the citizens? 00:10:29
But we have other stakeholders. 00:10:30
In our. 00:10:33
Our orbit and I wanted to recognize some of those folks who have come out to support us today. 00:10:34
We've got. 00:10:40
Judge Garvin, the Pace and justice of the Peace who came down. 00:10:41
Payson, he's heard a lot about this proposal, obviously before we brought it to you. 00:10:44
Judge Reardon, our Globe, Justice of the Peace. 00:10:49
Went down from his courtroom. 00:10:53
Lieutenant Osborne from Mahita County Jail. 00:10:55
Jail is obviously impacted by this proposal. 00:10:58
I did also forward along a letter from the. 00:11:02
Jail Commander Major Fulton. 00:11:05
On behalf of the Sheriff's Office. 00:11:07
And we had Mr. Beauchamp as well. Looks like he stepped out but. 00:11:09
It's not just a. 00:11:14
Courts it type of project but the reach goes pretty far so I wanted to. 00:11:15
Recognize some of our partners who have worked with us to get to the point where we can. 00:11:20
Some information to you for your consideration. 00:11:25
Thank you, Allison. Thank you. 00:11:28
Thank you. So yes, So what we're doing is we're bringing this to you today because one of the things that. 00:11:30
County wide, you know. 00:11:37
Courts. Sheriff's Office. 00:11:39
The Board of Supervisors room. 00:11:41
All of them have different. 00:11:43
Audio systems in there and you know, we're looking at four to five different systems that our team supports. 00:11:45
On the IT side. 00:11:50
You know and. 00:11:52
And it goes for the users too. You know, each of the users have to come in and be able to see if somebody comes from Payson to 00:11:53
here. It's a totally complete different system than whether they're using and pasted. 00:11:58
So This is why we're kind of looking to standardize and extend. 00:12:03
What we have in Payson, because the jab system that we have in Payson, it works. 00:12:08
Phenomenal. We had a really good. 00:12:12
Rapport with that system and we would like to extend that system. 00:12:14
County wide is what we'd like to do. 00:12:18
At a glance, we're looking at the total cost being around 665,000. 00:12:21
So contributed from the courts is going to be around 460,000. 00:12:26
Remaining balance for the county is 205. 00:12:31
Annual support maintenance of via 61,000 a year. 00:12:34
So, umm. 00:12:37
The brief history of the port automation 2009 2010 Digital audio recordings introduced into the capture of the court hearings 00:12:39
Conference lines used for telephonic. 00:12:44
Appearance in his testimony. 00:12:49
One thing, especially with Lieutenant Osborne being here. 00:12:51
They use it a lot. 00:12:55
For, you know, communicating with the inmates and everything like that, it makes it a lot easier for them to be able, for the 00:12:56
judges and the attorneys and stuff to communicate with them and everything so. 00:13:01
In 2010, the virtual appearances adopted for certain hearing types. 2020 to 2021 is when COVID-19 hit. 00:13:07
So COVID-19 is when a lot of. 00:13:14
The virtualization of appearances and everything came into play. 00:13:17
So, umm. 00:13:21
Post COVID, courtrooms filled with assorted audio visual technology components acquired in. 00:13:23
Different streamlines YouTube. A lot of the courtrooms use YouTube. They stream as we do here. You stream your. 00:13:29
Your recordings and hearings and stuff to YouTube. 00:13:37
2022 this Arizona Supreme Court requires local courts to adopt standards for virtual hearings so that where it went into place, 00:13:41
where it had to have. 00:13:45
The the loss there so 2025 digital evidence is rolled out. 00:13:49
To a county level. 00:13:54
So all, all the evidence and everything is now digital. So they're able to, all the digital evidence and everything is loaded up 00:13:56
into the system and then the attorneys and the judges are able to pull it up. 00:14:01
So. 00:14:07
How can we address the pressures and an inefficient and cost effective manner? 00:14:10
4 main business pressures the digital auto recording. 00:14:15
Virtual appearances, digital evidence, display and streaming capabilities. This is where that JAB Systems comes into play. It 00:14:18
actually. 00:14:21
Works everything all in there for you Joe comment yeah I do. I just wanted to. 00:14:25
Touch on this piece of it. 00:14:31
So digital I started with the courts in 2008. 00:14:33
So that's. 00:14:36
1718 years ago. 00:14:38
We are still running. 00:14:40
The same. 00:14:41
Audio record. 00:14:42
System that we had back. 00:14:43
So in addition to. 00:14:46
The audio recording which is. 00:14:48
Very important. Now we have these other. 00:14:50
Pressures that we have to deal with in our previous. 00:14:53
Audio recording system which is still in operation. 00:14:57
Does not account for any of this stuff. 00:15:00
So kind of an old fashioned guy, but the courts have speed up. 00:15:02
Over the past 18 years. 00:15:07
These are things that we didn't have an opportunity to really plan for. 00:15:10
COVID. 00:15:14
Accelerated our time frame. 00:15:17
We had no time to plan or test. 00:15:19
To really size up these things, we were. 00:15:22
Slapping webcams and courtrooms and streaming is doing everything as best we could just to operate. 00:15:25
So this also represents an opportunity to reset. 00:15:32
And something that will be with us. 00:15:35
For the next 5 seven years. 00:15:38
OK. Thank you. 00:15:42
Expansion of the jazz platform. 00:15:45
As we said, Jabs is currently in the TCM building and Payson. 00:15:48
And it's. 00:15:51
It works really well. 00:15:53
We're able to pull recordings when we need to, all the audio and visual. 00:15:54
Videos record into the system. Our our IT techs are able to pull them for them if they need to. The port administration is also 00:15:58
able to pull them if they need to. And they work really well. 00:16:04
On that one so. 00:16:11
Where the platform goes, so it would go here in the Board of Supervisors room. 00:16:13
It would go into the superior courts. 00:16:17
For both A&B. 00:16:20
Courtroom here. 00:16:21
It would go into Justice court here and it would go into the Justice Court in Payson and the Superior courtroom in. 00:16:22
In Payson also. 00:16:30
That's correct and I just want to add on. 00:16:32
This is actually an opportunity for us to get in front. 00:16:34
Of some of these business pressures. 00:16:37
Our justice courts. 00:16:40
Have the same mandates for recording. 00:16:42
But they will be receiving and they have the same mandates for virtual appearances. They will be going to digital. 00:16:45
Evidence. 00:16:52
At some point in the very near future. 00:16:54
This would allow us to be in front of that. 00:16:56
Question. 00:17:04
Keep going, we can wait till the end and learn. 00:17:05
Who benefits? The board, the board and the courts? Consistent standards. Compliant technology in every meeting room and courtroom. 00:17:08
The Sheriff's Office. Fewer inmate transports. Required court appearances. 00:17:13
County Attorney's Office Easier victim and witness appearances without in person travel the public. The screening alternative to 00:17:19
driving across a very large county. 00:17:23
One time installation cost is. 00:17:28
665,000 Total installation costs for all locations. 00:17:31
Contribution from the courts is 460,000. 00:17:36
And then County Sheriff is 205. 00:17:40
Reoccurring costs fully offset so the support and maintenance agreements is 61,000 a year. 00:17:45
The offset. 00:17:51
Is. 00:17:53
That's for. 00:17:54
I'll let you. 00:17:55
Yeah, umm. 00:17:56
We are eliminating a position in court administration. 00:17:57
Salary and employee related expenses that will allow us to offset. 00:18:01
The annual recurring support and maintenance. 00:18:05
Contracts. Umm. 00:18:08
One standard shared cost countrywide benefit, a mandate already enforced state standards and virtual hearings in county level 00:18:13
digital evidence are here now the equipment has. 00:18:17
Has to meet them a platform already working. Jazz is in service and Payson and is the county IT standard. So this is an expansion 00:18:22
rather than experiment. 00:18:26
A cost already shared The courts carry 460,000 of the installation and 61,000 annual obligation is fully offset. 00:18:31
Any questions or anything that we can? 00:18:39
Answer for you and as far as an IT director myself. 00:18:42
I am fully for this because. 00:18:46
For my my team. 00:18:48
Alone, you know, having to be able to know. 00:18:50
You know, four to five different operations depending on where they go. 00:18:53
Is dependent on how they support that. 00:18:56
So for them to be able to just, you know, if I send somebody from here to Payson to be able to just walk in and be able to support 00:18:58
it with no issues. 00:19:02
You know, without having to pull up. 00:19:06
You know. 00:19:07
Some kind of? 00:19:08
Information on how to actually support it, you know, so it would make it a lot easier on our team so. 00:19:09
OK. Simple budget plan questions. 00:19:16
So Terry, Jonathan, thank you. I can only imagine going to 1 system throughout the county would be a huge benefit. 00:19:19
But I didn't realize we were working under that many different systems I guess. 00:19:25
And the other I looked like a plus to me as you guys have already had the. 00:19:29
The chance to test this one. 00:19:33
You've already been working with it, so you like it. You know it works. 00:19:35
And everything like that. So my question would be like the 665. 00:19:38
That's a solid number. 00:19:41
I mean, that's it because. 00:19:43
If you think about going into the courthouse here, no telling what's under this. 00:19:45
These chairs up here or. 00:19:49
Or in your courtrooms or whatever. 00:19:51
That didn't deal with so it that's good. It's the 665. 00:19:53
So we had her come down from Tennessee. She came down here and actually walked through all of the courtrooms and the Board of 00:19:56
Supervisors rooms here in Globe, and then we met her up in Payton and she walked everything there also. 00:20:02
So if you did a complete walkthrough and no notated everything and yes. 00:20:08
Yeah, we do. 00:20:13
Obviously a. 00:20:14
Project of scope. 00:20:16
You worry about those kind of run on costs. 00:20:18
And we did everything we could to mitigate that front end. 00:20:21
And like Kerry said. 00:20:25
We have the representative from Jazz and members of the team correct. 00:20:26
Come through and we've spoken to them. 00:20:31
After quotes were received as well. 00:20:33
We didn't want to bring. 00:20:37
A package to you. 00:20:39
Without as many of the rough edges off of it as we possibly could account for. 00:20:41
And that's, you know, that goes for the recurring cost too. You know, we had that plan to account for that. 00:20:45
In addition to installation but. 00:20:51
They're firm quotes and if there is any overrun. 00:20:53
I think that we would be able to mitigate that. 00:20:58
So you mentioned in there inmate transports? 00:21:02
So if. 00:21:06
If all the county systems are. 00:21:07
Tied together with one functioning. 00:21:09
Java system like that. 00:21:12
Then what you're saying is you can do a lot more video type stuff up there and you don't have to transport. 00:21:13
That is correct. 00:21:19
We do a lot of that now. 00:21:20
OK, I don't know if you guys remember in the old days and. 00:21:22
And with the Peace and Justice Court. 00:21:25
We used to walk a chain of inmates across the street every morning. 00:21:27
And that's just one example. 00:21:31
There's other hearings that. 00:21:33
In custody. 00:21:35
Parties can attend hearings, but yeah, that's a big party. 00:21:37
And and you guys are thinking doing it this year? 00:21:41
As far as what you're wanting to do, I mean that's your target or what ideally. 00:21:44
Yes. 00:21:48
We have been as you mentioned. 00:21:49
When Covic came, we were flapping devices and cameras and everywhere and we had like kept that. 00:21:53
Life support, yeah. 00:21:58
It's very hard for Carrie's team to support. It's hard for our. 00:22:00
Our court staff to. 00:22:05
Use. If you have a clerk, then they have to go up to Payson and it's an entirely different. 00:22:06
Set up. 00:22:11
So we have been. 00:22:15
Trying to get it fixed. 00:22:17
On this for a while. 00:22:19
That sounds like a good target, So thank you, guys. Thank you for bringing this up. 00:22:21
Thank you, Supervisor Christian said. 00:22:25
Thank you. So, yeah, thank you for that. I. 00:22:28
I think it's absolutely necessary. I like the term you use. Get out in front of it. 00:22:32
Clean things up the patchwork. 00:22:37
Make it right. 00:22:40
And it's not. 00:22:41
Like you just wanted a nice shiny new object you want. 00:22:43
To improve the system and it affects a lot of. 00:22:46
Different departments and people. 00:22:49
So I think it's a good thing. 00:22:50
Yeah, I broke down a couple questions while you were once. I didn't interrupt you because a lot of times you'll answer my 00:22:53
questions before. 00:22:56
I ask him to before you get to the end of it, but on the on the, on the service that we're eliminating, is that going to save us? 00:23:00
Some money. 00:23:07
Will we do currently have supported? 00:23:09
Maintenance agreements with the current vendor. 00:23:13
I think we totaled those all up. I think it was around. 00:23:17
30K or so. 00:23:20
Yeah. 00:23:22
Any savings? Good saving and then also to. 00:23:24
You know, I I also like the the fact that you'll be able to go virtual. 00:23:28
You know, I mean not transporting people then we're saving on liability issues, we're saving on caught man hour cost, 00:23:32
transportation costs. 00:23:37
Just kind of. 00:23:42
The savings that you don't see that? 00:23:43
That will definitely make a difference. 00:23:46
Overtime. 00:23:48
As people get used to doing more. 00:23:49
Virtual. 00:23:51
And less hands on show. 00:23:53
I I thank you very much. 00:23:55
Presentation. 00:23:57
Today, any further questions? 00:23:58
I'm good. 00:24:00
OK, thank. Thank you very much. 00:24:01
Have a good day. 00:24:03
OK, umm. 00:24:06
They were coming up to. 00:24:08
To see information. 00:24:11
Discussion. 00:24:13
Regarding the utilization of. 00:24:15
$5 million. 00:24:17
In direct disaster relief funding. 00:24:19
Provided by the State of Arizona for flood recovery efforts. 00:24:22
In Gila County. 00:24:27
Michael O'Driscoll. 00:24:28
Good morning. Thank you very much. So if you recall back in June of this past year. 00:24:30
The state legislators and Governor Hobbs. 00:24:37
Signed this disaster relief for Gila County this. 00:24:40
$5,000,000 was part of a $10 million package. 00:24:43
2.5 million went to the city Globe and 2.5 million went to the town of Miami. 00:24:47
And Gila County received $5 million. 00:24:52
Direct funding from the state. 00:24:55
To address some of the. 00:24:57
Flood relief that we saw. 00:24:59
Last September floods. 00:25:02
Some of the pre management and so. 00:25:03
The purpose of our discussion right now is just to. 00:25:06
Give you staff's ideas on how to utilize this $5 million. 00:25:09
To make sense. 00:25:15
To provide some of the. 00:25:17
Cost relief from the debris management we saw and some other costs with our NRCS projects. 00:25:20
And I brought Marin here because she's certainly has some. 00:25:26
Really good ideas as far. 00:25:30
How to use this $5,000,000 to make it? 00:25:32
Be more closer to $6.2 million instead of $5,000,000. And I'm going to have Marin sort of explain. 00:25:35
That idea. 00:25:43
OK. Thank you, Michael. Good morning, Mr. Chairman, Supervisor Christensen. 00:25:45
Supervisor Klein. 00:25:50
When the $5,000,000 came through from the state of Arizona. 00:25:52
It didn't have a specific. 00:25:57
Limitation on what we could use it for. 00:25:59
So this morning we are providing you with. 00:26:02
Three sort of options or directions forward. 00:26:05
And we've got these. 00:26:09
Enumerated within the agenda item. 00:26:11
We thought that that was a more clear way than making this a presentation. 00:26:14
The first one is to reduce your borrowing total. 00:26:20
So if you. 00:26:23
Use the $5,000,000 toward Gila County's 25% match. 00:26:24
On the NRCS Endema projects. 00:26:30
And ultimately reduced your total borrowing from 18.2 million. 00:26:33
To 13.2 million. 00:26:39
That would save approximately 1.2 million in interest. 00:26:41
Over the life of the bond. 00:26:46
So that. 00:26:47
That's how the $5,000,000 would become 6.2 million. 00:26:48
Alternatively. 00:26:54
Because. 00:26:55
NRCS and DEMA. 00:26:56
Projects have. 00:26:58
Specific lifetimes on them. 00:27:00
The NRCS projects have. 00:27:02
220 days. 00:27:04
And Dima has a one year. 00:27:06
Timeline. 00:27:08
You could. 00:27:09
Instruct us. 00:27:11
And staff. 00:27:12
To come up with a list of additional projects. 00:27:13
That we could use the $5,000,000 for. 00:27:17
And then we left the. 00:27:20
The third item open. 00:27:22
Because in addition to. 00:27:24
Reducing, borrowing or evaluating additional projects. 00:27:26
There may be things that you have thought of. 00:27:29
That you. 00:27:32
This would be the ideal time to bring up, so we wanted to open the door. 00:27:33
For this conversation and make sure that. 00:27:37
Before we came up with. 00:27:40
That we got your feedback, input and ideas. 00:27:44
So that we can use this $5,000,000 in the way. 00:27:47
That, uh. 00:27:51
Is the best stewardship? 00:27:52
And the best leadership for Gila County's platform. 00:27:54
Did I miss anything, Michael? 00:27:59
Not Marini hid all the. 00:28:02
On the point, so we'd be open to. 00:28:04
Discussion and feedback, and we'd love to hear your thoughts. Supervisor Klein. 00:28:07
So thank you guys. 00:28:12
Hands down to me, it's it's to use it against that $18 million. 00:28:14
You know, we reduce a million. 00:28:18
To an interest. 00:28:20
That's a big savings. Nothing's ever said we have to borrow the 18,000,000 either. 00:28:22
The total amount but. 00:28:26
But to put it towards that end, from my opinion is. 00:28:27
Is definitely the way to go on this. 00:28:30
No doubt there's probably other things. 00:28:33
The projects out there, whatever, but. 00:28:35
The most glaring is to get out from under that debt to me. 00:28:38
Thank you, Sir. 00:28:42
And I'll just reach out. So let me ask you though we haven't already seen. 00:28:44
We have not. 00:28:51
Requested any reimbursement from the bond yet? 00:28:52
So we wanted to have this conversation first. So we actually have borrowed the 18,000,000, but we haven't spent any of it just 00:28:55
yet. 00:28:58
OK. But we're just saying I'm sending approximately 12 of that or? 00:29:04
And about. 00:29:09
That that's a hard figure to come up with since we don't have a lot of the. 00:29:11
2:20 and all the other different projects, they're not going to be 18. 00:29:17
Correct, Sir. 00:29:23
That's the number now. 00:29:24
Yeah. So that number would be what? 00:29:26
At first it was about 12 million, but that's been reduced with some of the cost savings that public. 00:29:32
Works on the NRCS projects. 00:29:37
They're saying so. 00:29:39
I'm just going to throw out a number here and don't quote me. It would probably be closer to 8 or 9 million. 00:29:41
Possibly. 00:29:46
If we use the 5 million towards that as well. 00:29:47
Some of that's going to be reimbursed though from Emma and the other, right? 00:29:50
Oh, that's net of reimbursement. 00:29:55
Yeah. That's that's above and beyond the reimbursement. 00:29:57
Now, do we anticipate having to borrow? Let's say this 5 million doesn't exist? 00:30:02
Would we anticipate having to borrow more money to pay for future markets? 00:30:08
That are coming up or we've done with that. 00:30:12
If we didn't have this 5 million, we'd certainly be. 00:30:16
Using more of that 18,000,000. 00:30:20
And add on to that the interest cost. 00:30:22
For that. 00:30:24
So, so I guess my question is to lead to the fact that we can use the 5 million. 00:30:26
Teacher spending without having to borrow. 00:30:31
All right. And then we could take the 5 million and also pay down. 00:30:35
The debt, correct, Sir. 00:30:39
So to pay down the debt and then borrow more money. 00:30:41
Since you know. 00:30:44
A little bit of monkey motion there. 00:30:47
We have more debt that's common with the issues applies. 00:30:50
But I am also getting rid of this debt. 00:30:55
Yeah, OK. 00:30:57
So that would be my organization. 00:30:59
Perfect. Thank you, Sir. 00:31:00
Well, I'm kind of looking forward because. 00:31:03
Further in. 00:31:05
Presentation today. 00:31:07
We bring up the Russell Rd. 00:31:08
That's a project that. 00:31:11
We're doing engineering on. 00:31:13
And then we're going to. 00:31:15
Hopefully at some point. 00:31:17
Reached for Grant. 00:31:19
To fix that. 00:31:20
But we will probably have some match money. 00:31:22
With the grant. 00:31:24
So looking at future projects. 00:31:26
And perhaps needing. 00:31:30
Money for those. 00:31:32
Projects. 00:31:33
Um, like I say, I. 00:31:36
The 18,000,000 we had to borrow, we had to get things done. 00:31:38
We didn't borrow more than we could afford. 00:31:42
And so I. 00:31:46
I also would like to. 00:31:48
Pay some of that debt down, but until we get some of our projects done. 00:31:50
We're not really sure where we're going to set with that. 00:31:54
But we know that we're going to be way under. 00:31:57
What we? 00:32:01
Had had thought we would be. 00:32:02
And so I think. 00:32:06
I would like to take a closer look at some of our big future projects. 00:32:07
And perhaps. 00:32:13
Estimated costs and matches. 00:32:14
On those because. 00:32:17
I as the world changes, we got. 00:32:20
We got good interest in things and we can pay back. 00:32:24
This 18,000,000 at any time. 00:32:28
In the future, with the world today, there may not be. 00:32:31
Low interest. 00:32:34
Money. 00:32:35
Or as low. 00:32:36
Interest money. 00:32:37
And when you're talking millions of dollars, 2% interest. 00:32:39
Is a lot of money. 00:32:42
And so anyway. 00:32:44
Yes, I. 00:32:46
I would like to pay. 00:32:47
Some of that 18,000,000. 00:32:49
Be able to pay all the 18,000,000. 00:32:50
No, we're not going to be able to do that. 00:32:53
But I would like to. 00:32:55
Take a close look at future projects. 00:32:57
That we know we need. 00:33:01
And that we're. 00:33:03
Putting grants in for and what's our match money going to be? 00:33:04
On those. 00:33:08
Because we've already negotiated a pretty good deal, I think, on this 18,000,000. 00:33:10
That if we went back to him. 00:33:15
In a year from now? 00:33:16
Is that money going to cost us more than? 00:33:19
Than it did when we reached out. 00:33:21
And was able to work this. 00:33:24
That's my $0.02 worth. 00:33:27
Great, Chairman, members of the Board, and thank you very much for those thoughts. 00:33:29
I think we're going to get a lot more clarity. 00:33:33
With the finances. 00:33:36
For the flood relief. 00:33:39
Once the NRCS projects closeout. 00:33:40
And we put together a financial package to bring to the board in a work session. 00:33:43
In about 6 to 8 weeks. 00:33:48
So I think we'll have a lot more clarity and when we bring. 00:33:49
All these projects including the Russell Rd. project. 00:33:53
You know, some of the costs and some of the grants we're going for. I think we'll put together a nice work session. 00:33:57
To include all of that. 00:34:02
If that's if that's. 00:34:03
Acceptable. 00:34:05
Yes, go ahead. 00:34:08
Hello. 00:34:20
That works for another deal that we were able to use it for. 00:34:23
For flood relief. 00:34:28
I think, oh, so my apologies, Chairman, members of the board that $1.5 million came from Diffum. 00:34:31
So it was not 1.5 million, it was close to 1.2 million. 00:34:37
They have some extra money in the HB 2001 money. 00:34:41
That we requested. 00:34:45
That we be allowed to use for the flood relief. 00:34:47
There was 2 parts to our request we requested. 00:34:50
About $200,000 to hire a consultant for the debris management. 00:34:53
Which in this particular case was Samaritan. 00:34:58
So different paid. 00:35:01
His contract? 00:35:02
Cost and then the remaining $1.2 million. 00:35:04
Was given to deal accounting for flood relief to be used. 00:35:08
To be used on the Russell Gulch. 00:35:11
Project. 00:35:13
In particular, so that money will pay for the match and and. 00:35:14
Any money leftover from that? 00:35:19
If there is any money of the $1.2 million, we'll go back to Diffum and see if we could repurpose that. 00:35:21
So yes, you're absolutely right Sir, and my apologies for forgetting. 00:35:27
Yeah. 00:35:31
Anymore. 00:35:39
You know. 00:35:41
Michael, you brought up the. 00:35:43
So 18,000,000, but then the actual cost and that seems to stick in my mind, that $9 million. 00:35:44
Right around that, that's what it seems to stick in my mind. 00:35:52
But what's real important to me is that we get. 00:35:55
Beyond. 00:35:58
To say 18. 00:35:59
$1,000,000 loan, whatever. 00:36:01
Revolving line of credit, basically. 00:36:02
And get ready for the next storm. 00:36:05
That's that's what always worries me. It's like, you know what? 00:36:08
But we had hit us, could hit us next year or ten years. We just don't know. But. 00:36:11
But to get out from under that because I think there was a annual payment. 00:36:16
If we use the whole 18 million of. 00:36:19
What was it? 00:36:22
Wearing like 2 million a year or something like that. 00:36:23
2 million a year for 10 years. Yeah, yeah. 00:36:25
And so. 00:36:28
So that's what's really important to me. And then. 00:36:29
Work with the future projects. 00:36:31
As we identify them, where they come up and. 00:36:33
And see what's out there and what we can afford so. 00:36:36
Just saying. 00:36:39
Thank you, Sir. 00:36:40
And just two supervisor clients point, Mr. Chairman, if I may. 00:36:41
We are in an IGA with the city of Globe, the town of Miami. 00:36:46
And our partners at Freeport. 00:36:50
To do an assessment. 00:36:52
Of what those long term needs are. 00:36:55
And that is something that is also. 00:36:58
Working uh. 00:37:02
Alongside of all the work that we're doing currently. 00:37:03
And to recover is that long term planning piece. That's a collaborative effort. 00:37:06
Across the entire region. 00:37:11
OK. Any more questions? 00:37:16
OK. Thank you very much for your presentation and I hope you gained some. 00:37:19
Information today. 00:37:24
OK, we're going to move on to. 00:37:26
2D. 00:37:28
Information discussion regarding the past, present and future. 00:37:32
Of the Buckhead Mesa landfill and remaining life. 00:37:36
Expectancy of the current sale and operations. 00:37:40
For future expansion. 00:37:44
Troy and. 00:37:46
Mr. Dickinson. 00:37:49
German Board of Supervisors, thank you. Before we start the presentation, I wanted to take a moment. A few weeks ago, I officially 00:37:51
stepped into the Public Works Director role. 00:37:54
And I wanted to recognize Troy White for the partnership he's been through. 00:37:58
With that he made himself. 00:38:04
Available every step. 00:38:06
Way always willing to. 00:38:07
To talk something through, always generous with his time. 00:38:09
And that kind of support. 00:38:12
I made this the smoothest transition I've been part of. 00:38:14
Troy, thank you from the team and for me. 00:38:17
Fittingly, this is Troy's last item with this board. 00:38:21
He and the team have built. 00:38:24
Line cells reach. 00:38:25
Leachate systems and push through the ADEQ expansion that. 00:38:28
Kept Buckhead Mesa running. 00:38:32
For the northern portion of Gila County. 00:38:33
Essentially what he's going to be able to lay out today. 00:38:37
And have to ask because we have about 3 1/2 years of space left. 00:38:40
And securing the new land. 00:38:44
Can take 3. 00:38:46
Four years. So we're going to be asking for your direction and support in that. 00:38:47
With that, Troy, if you want to be able to lay out the presentation and after that would be happy to take any questions. 00:38:52
Good morning, Sir. 00:38:59
Good morning. Good morning, Chairman and Board. Thank you, Joseph. I appreciate that. 00:39:00
It has been one of the smoother transitions I've ever been a part of too as well, so it's. 00:39:05
It's a good thing. There's a couple things that I really want to go over with the board today. 00:39:10
Want to talk a little bit about the current situation? I'm only going to talk. 00:39:15
A couple slides on that for the current situation, I really want to. 00:39:18
Spend a little bit more time on sustainability. 00:39:22
And I'm not talking about environmental sustainability. I'm talking about. 00:39:25
The budget sustainability of a landfill and this would apply to both. 00:39:28
Buckhead, Mesa and Russell Golf. I think there's some. 00:39:33
Key factors that we need to keep an eye on as we're moving forward with owning these landfills and operating and maintaining them. 00:39:37
So I want to spend a little time on that. 00:39:41
And then at the very end, we do have a board policy question for this board that we're really looking to get some direction on, 00:39:45
specifically as it relates to the Town Site Act. 00:39:49
There's nobody really in current management or the executive management that was here when this. 00:39:54
Townsite Act originally kicked off. 00:39:59
And we're looking at getting 512 acres. 00:40:02
So we want to go through that. We want to just make sure. 00:40:05
We're about ready to start spending some serious. 00:40:08
Money, uh. 00:40:10
Moving forward for that 512 acres so. 00:40:12
We just want to make sure. 00:40:15
Get the 512 acres is still the plan because if we're going to change that, that would be the time to change that. 00:40:17
So just real quickly on the current situation. 00:40:23
The existing landfill is expected to reach capacity in 2030. 00:40:27
I'm going to go over a little bit of that and why that is so. 00:40:32
I think in the past we've heard 2032. 00:40:35
When it first started out, it was 2028, so I want to show why those numbers jump around a little bit under the sustainability part 00:40:38
of this presentation. 00:40:42
Right now we're going underneath the we're currently doing the archaeological environmental assessments are underway. 00:40:47
And that's going to take until May of next year, 2027. 00:40:54
At which time the mitigation will start. That's really when you start spending. 00:40:58
Some serious. 00:41:03
Funding to get these projects moving forward. So I'm going to spend a little bit of time talking about that. 00:41:05
Towards the end of presentation of what it's going to take moving forward for the mitigation. 00:41:11
So you've got the environmental system going on now until May and then? 00:41:15
The mitigation is going to. 00:41:20
Start in May of next year, I want to make one recommendation and this is. 00:41:23
It's really important. 00:41:26
Because of the timeline that we're under to get the landfill done. 00:41:30
It would be my recommendation that in March of next year that a. 00:41:35
Contract for. 00:41:40
A firm to do the mitigation is brought before the board for approval. 00:41:42
Even though they can't start until May. 00:41:46
There's not a lot of firms out there that do mitigation and they get booked up way in advance. 00:41:48
And we don't have time to. 00:41:54
Not be first in line so. 00:41:56
I would have a contract ready to go even though we're not going to know the total price until the. 00:41:58
Environmental assessments done. 00:42:03
I'd get a contract here. I'd do the best. 00:42:05
Case estimate on that contract, get it approved in March. 00:42:08
So that when? 00:42:12
The environmental assessments done in May. 00:42:13
The mitigation can start in May. 00:42:16
If you wait till May to bring that contract forward. 00:42:18
You're probably going to be out a couple months before they can start and I know. 00:42:21
Really know that yeah, we have that much time. So just keep that in mind as we're moving forward. And that's more of a. 00:42:24
Key thing for Joseph and his team to keep in mind moving forward. 00:42:29
So currently, right now, this is the Townsite Act. And again you're going to hear the Townsite Act and. 00:42:34
That just comes to the townside Act is just. 00:42:41
Just comes from the 1867 law. 00:42:43
That determines how you have to purchase federal land. That's why it's called Townsite Act. That was the law that. 00:42:46
That put this in place so. 00:42:52
We don't really have a name for it other than what the law was called when it was enacted. So this is the Town Site Act here. 00:42:54
That's the full 512 acres. You can see the area of current operations of 89 acres. 00:43:00
Is up towards the top. 00:43:06
Right hand side of that map, that's where the landfill's going on and that's where the road has material. 00:43:08
In that area that will be part of the 512 acres. 00:43:13
To be purchased because we don't. 00:43:17
Owned that yet, but that's part that's going to be part of the purchase moving forward. 00:43:19
So I want to get into sustainability, but before I do, is there any questions on anything covered so far? 00:43:24
I have a question, Mr. Chair. 00:43:30
Go ahead. 00:43:35
Troy, have we had any kickbacks on that EA, anybody opposing it or anything hanging out there? 00:43:37
An EA can be sued by about anybody in the United States. 00:43:43
Yeah, no, it's going really good. I'm going to go over some of the cultural stuff that they're finding out there. It's. 00:43:46
But we're not getting, we're not getting any kickback or any concerns with what. 00:43:51
What with where we're at the stage we're at right now. 00:43:56
Yeah, it won't come till the end, but I. 00:44:00
I had this question in my mind a while back and I wasn't sure if it was going under an EA or an EIS. 00:44:03
But an EA is. 00:44:08
Pretty vulnerable to it, It is, yeah. 00:44:10
You can get a lot of. 00:44:13
Input on that that can. 00:44:15
Delay things a little bit for sure. 00:44:17
Thank you. 00:44:19
You're welcome. 00:44:20
All right. I want to talk a little bit about sustainability. This is really a key equation really to to keep in mind. This is 00:44:22
really. 00:44:26
What determined? 00:44:30
The performance of a landfill. 00:44:33
You hear a lot about compaction. Everybody knows about compaction and how important. 00:44:35
Action is, but just as important is the tonnage that we receive. And I'm going to go over a perfect example. 00:44:39
Of a real example that happened. 00:44:45
At Buckhead Mesa and how to sell plays a part. 00:44:48
But basically. 00:44:51
Everybody knows you have to have really good compassion. 00:44:53
Because the compaction determines how long that. 00:44:55
That landfill will live. 00:44:57
Tonnage coming in. 00:45:00
Determines your revenue. 00:45:01
So if you don't have enough tongue to coming in. 00:45:03
You might not be making enough revenue. 00:45:06
To pay your expenses and by expenses. 00:45:09
It's both the short term expenses. 00:45:11
It's the operating expenses. 00:45:14
But it's also the long term expenses that you have to cover. 00:45:16
So you have to cover closure and post closure cost. 00:45:19
And you're going to see those are pretty expensive. 00:45:21
We're supposed to put money aside every year for the closure and postclosure costs. 00:45:24
The estimated amount for the new bucket mesh expansion. 00:45:29
Just to give you an example, I think is around fourteen $15 million that we need to have in place by the time that rent closes. 00:45:32
To do the. 00:45:38
The closure and the close closure activities. 00:45:39
Of that landfill. 00:45:42
So when we say. 00:45:43
The tonnage needs to be right. 00:45:45
It needs to more than cover revenue. 00:45:47
Because it's funny that you have to set up aside at both. 00:45:50
Buckhead Mesa and Russell Gulch. 00:45:53
So there is. 00:45:55
There there's a balance that you want to strike, so I'm going to talk a little bit about. 00:45:57
Compaction first. 00:46:01
You guys know about compaction? I just want to cover it real quick. 00:46:03
And then we'll see how that plays in with the tonnage. 00:46:05
So here's just a real simple example. 00:46:10
We have a million. 00:46:13
Cubic yard landfill. 00:46:14
And we're charging $50. 00:46:16
For the average time. 00:46:19
If we're compacting at about £1000 a cubic yard. 00:46:21
For the life of that landfill. 00:46:25
That landfill will generate a revenue of about 25,000,000. 00:46:27
If you look at the bottom where it's 1600. 00:46:31
Where now you really got. 00:46:34
Great compaction. We target 1400. 00:46:35
But if you got really great compaction. 00:46:38
And you're at 1600 cubic yards. 00:46:40
Now, that $25 million landfill is now making 40 million. 00:46:43
That's a big difference when it comes to the revenue and what you need. 00:46:47
Foreclosure and postclosure activities. 00:46:50
So the taxi is very important. 00:46:52
In the equation. 00:46:55
So this this is just kind of a chart that shows. 00:46:58
Finding the right balance. 00:47:01
So if you look at the top left hand one where it says poor compaction, low tonnage. 00:47:03
That's that's bad. 00:47:07
Because you're killing the lecture, your landfill, and you're not making enough to run it. 00:47:08
Really easy formula to remember. 00:47:13
And if you got poor compaction, you got high tonnage. 00:47:15
Well, you might be making enough. 00:47:18
Revenue to face. 00:47:19
To pay today's expensive. 00:47:21
Expenses. 00:47:23
But that landfill is going to run out of airspace before you have. 00:47:24
The funding to pay for the long term expenses. 00:47:27
So that's not good either. 00:47:30
And if you look at the green zones, that's really where you want to be. 00:47:32
So you got to target compaction rate. 00:47:36
And then you got a target tonnage rate? 00:47:38
Right, I want to I want to go over that on the next flag but. 00:47:40
If you got your target compaction, you hit your target tongue. It's that's sustainable. 00:47:43
You're making revenue, it's covering cost. 00:47:47
You're doing OK. 00:47:49
Where you really want to be though, is you want to have excellent compassion. You want to have either target or high. 00:47:51
Because you're maximizing the landfill airspace. 00:47:57
And you've got enough revenue not only paid for the short term expenses, but for the long term expenses. So you want to be in one 00:48:00
of those 3 zones for the life of your land. 00:48:05
Now let's see what that did for. 00:48:11
Buckhead, Mason. 00:48:13
So take the 2 green boxes. 00:48:14
That's the. 00:48:16
Compaction on the left side there and the. 00:48:18
Tonnage on the right side there. 00:48:21
So for 2020 to 2022. 00:48:22
We had really. 00:48:25
Great compaction as you can see. 00:48:26
But we had really low. 00:48:29
Tonnage there just wasn't. 00:48:30
Enough tonnage coming in. 00:48:33
So that's where you kind of get a little scary where. 00:48:34
You're not covering. 00:48:37
You may be covering your. 00:48:38
Daily or your annual operating, but are you? 00:48:40
Covering enough money to put away for those long term expenses that you have. 00:48:42
So that's not a good combination to have. 00:48:47
But what that resulted in is that resulted in us going from 2028. 00:48:49
To a lifespan of 2032, that's where you had that 2032 lifespan because. 00:48:53
Yet great compassion. 00:48:57
And he didn't have a lot of tonnage coming in. 00:48:59
So based on that trend, they said. 00:49:01
We can make it to 2030. 00:49:04
Now if you look at the next. 00:49:06
Three years. 00:49:08
And I'm sorry, for 2023 we didn't have compaction data. 00:49:09
So I'm not including that in this, but if you look at 2425 and 26. 00:49:12
And these are fiscal meters? 00:49:16
So 26 would be July of 25 of July 26. 00:49:17
So we just closed out that fiscal year, but if you look at. 00:49:21
The compaction. 00:49:25
Horrible compassion. 00:49:27
Losing a lot of airspace. 00:49:29
But if you look over at the tonnage, we were getting some pretty decent tonnage. 00:49:32
So. 00:49:36
We were killing our air. 00:49:37
But we were making good revenue. 00:49:39
Not the combination you want. 00:49:41
Really, what we want is the compaction from 2020 to 2022. 00:49:43
In the 20th from 2024 to 2026. 00:49:47
That's the combination that you need to have for the life of the landfill. 00:49:50
Now one of those we control. 00:49:54
And one of those we don't. 00:49:56
And when we control his compassion. 00:49:57
When we don't quote control is touch. 00:49:59
How much tongue which comes to the landfill we do not control. 00:50:02
Try while we're sitting here on this, right? 00:50:07
Hook him back in the years. 00:50:10
I don't know, 10 years? 00:50:12
15 years where you go back? 00:50:14
How bad does the is the fluctuation in turnage from one year to another? Did you happen to take a look at that? 00:50:16
I did not, but we can do that analysis. I'm just curious. Yeah. 00:50:23
Yeah. And so. 00:50:27
The other thing? 00:50:28
That that I'm looking at and it's going through my mind. 00:50:30
With that dollar dump day, for how long now? 00:50:33
So we get a lot of tonnage. 00:50:35
Coming in which that was our goal was to help the public. 00:50:38
But very little revenue. 00:50:41
On that. 00:50:43
What was the impact of that, do you know? 00:50:44
Yeah, it was. 00:50:46
Surprisingly enough. 00:50:48
On an annual basis, you're losing about. 00:50:49
$50,000 a year. 00:50:52
So when you're talking about. 00:50:53
$2,000,000 budgets and $2,000,000 revenue. 00:50:55
I don't think it's a huge factor. It's once a month. 00:50:59
It's 12 * a year for each landfill. 00:51:02
Doing the analysis on that, it's really not. 00:51:05
Hugely impactful, one way or the other. 00:51:08
You hear that it cuts down on Wildcat dumping, and then we've also heard that it. 00:51:14
You know people will save up their trash at their home for a full month because they don't want to. 00:51:18
You know, pay the fee so they're. 00:51:22
There's vector control issues there. I mean, there's pros and cons. I mean, I think it's a good thing for. 00:51:25
For those that are on a fixed income and struggle. 00:51:30
On how to get rid of their trash, but is it hurting the performer? 00:51:34
It it's not really impacting. That's my question. I know it's good for the public, yeah. 00:51:37
You know, I know to an extent it's good for the Wildcat dumping. 00:51:41
I mean, we have issues in in mine institute district up there outpatient, that's a whole different issue. 00:51:45
But umm. 00:51:51
But my biggest question was what? 00:51:52
What did that do for Yeah. 00:51:54
For the financial side? 00:51:56
Versus tonnage? 00:51:58
Things like that, yeah, I would say when you have really low tonnage. 00:51:59
Mike could probably use that 50,000, but if you're hitting your target tonnage, you're close to your target tonnage, it's it's 00:52:03
minimal impact. 00:52:06
So I guess, you know, I'm just. 00:52:10
And from the tuning standpoint? 00:52:11
Man, I don't know. 00:52:14
I can't see that it would fluctuate a. 00:52:15
Big amount. 00:52:18
From year to year, you know. 00:52:19
Hey, maybe there's circumstances like flooding that may cause that. 00:52:20
Or damage there or something. But. 00:52:25
Overall, under normal circumstances, I'm just curious. 00:52:28
Yeah. And you want to write a monotonic, right, You don't want less tonnage, you want the target tonnage because you want that 00:52:32
revenue to come in to come around the expenses, so. 00:52:35
Yeah, it's a tricky, tricky equation. And we don't, I guess, if we don't control that side of the equation. 00:52:39
OK, Any other questions before I get into the townside act? 00:52:47
Chairman, are you going to cover? 00:52:53
The compaction has gone down South. 00:52:55
Umm. 00:52:58
When I thought I could hit the back button. 00:53:01
Yeah, the the compaction is just it's, it's mainly operator issues. 00:53:04
And you know, I, I can tell you this, I, you know, with, with. 00:53:08
Having Mike there, I don't think that compaction is going to be an issue moving forward. 00:53:11
And you know, we need to train. 00:53:17
It's called training the trainer. We've got to make sure we might leave. There's somebody in his footsteps that knows what he 00:53:19
knows. 00:53:22
To make sure that's going on, I do want to mention that you know, Joseph will be, if you remember when we came here with the 00:53:25
Russell Gulch. 00:53:29
Presentation, we said. 00:53:34
Twice a year you're going to get a report. 00:53:36
You're going to get a report both of. 00:53:38
The compaction rate. 00:53:40
That we're currently doing and the tonnage rate. 00:53:42
So you're going to get that report twice a year? 00:53:44
Those reports you weren't getting? 00:53:47
In the past, and that's something we told, you want to bring Russell gossip, you'd get that report. 00:53:49
That's going to allow you guys to keep an eye on what is the compatriot. Are we doing good with the compaction? If we're not, what 00:53:53
the heck is the problem? 00:53:56
And if we are doing good, what's the tonnage? Are we making enough? You know it's the tonnage covering the revenue issue. So 00:53:59
you're going to get that report. 00:54:03
It to answer your question specifically, it's. 00:54:07
It's really the operator. I mean it's. 00:54:10
Not having the right equipment will affect it somewhat, but it's not going to affect it as bad as we've seen. 00:54:13
The last fiscal year. 00:54:18
That is just an operational thing and I know that's something that might have been working. 00:54:20
Very hard on training both supervisors and all the staff at the landfill. 00:54:25
You're probably going to see those numbers drastically change. 00:54:29
The key is going to be how do we make sure we're mice, not here, that we don't go back to something? 00:54:33
Go ahead. 00:54:41
OK. 00:54:43
I don't know why this stopped working. 00:54:45
I got to go back into it. 00:54:55
Yeah. 00:54:58
I have a good memory, but it's not that good. 00:55:00
Which slide you? 00:55:10
Scroll down. 00:55:12
Let's go to where you see townsite access. 00:55:14
Slide, you're going down. 00:55:16
Yup, keep going. 00:55:19
Ignore. 00:55:21
Shut down. There you go. 00:55:25
Thank you. 00:55:27
All right, back in the line. All right, So where we're at right now with the Townside Act, again, this is the schedule that we're 00:55:31
under. 00:55:34
As you heard. 00:55:37
The way things are currently going, we have till 2030. That could probably be stretched out a little bit. Now that Mike's on 00:55:38
board, we can stretch. 00:55:42
Get that compaction rates back under control, but assuming we're still dealing with. 00:55:45
With February 2030 as being the fill date there. 00:55:50
Right now we're doing the NEPA process and you can see then we get into the mitigation. Mitigation is going to go from May. 00:55:54
Of this year until May of next year. 00:56:00
And that's where you really start getting into the expense. I'm going to explain that in a minute. 00:56:02
Then we get into the site permit so. 00:56:07
The full acres and I'll show you what I'm talking about, but the full. 00:56:09
Next phase that we're purchasing the acres. 00:56:12
That all has to be permitted at one time. 00:56:15
You do the sales individually, but you do the full site at one time. 00:56:18
Right. And that can't be done until mitigations got adequate will not approve the site permit. 00:56:22
Until. 00:56:28
The mitigation is done, we can start the process, but we can't finish it. That's why there's a little overlap there. 00:56:30
Once the site permit is done, we can get into design. You can actually start design a little earlier than that. 00:56:36
While the site commits getting approved. 00:56:41
But the design will. 00:56:45
Will take us till about August and then. 00:56:46
To take this out to bed and go into construction. 00:56:49
We're looking at about a year process. 00:56:52
Think the construction is actually about 7-8 months long. 00:56:54
But we're including time and therefore. 00:56:58
You know, for the bidding process and from finance to get the contract documents all lined up and everything. 00:57:02
Once the bid in. 00:57:08
Once the construction is done, then we can get the final permit. 00:57:10
So you can see we're finishing around November. 00:57:13
We're running out of air around February. 00:57:16
Of course, Mike could do his magic. You'll have a little bit more breathing room than that, but. 00:57:18
You can see it's a pretty tight timeline and that's why I say in. 00:57:22
In, you know, March of next year, we want to have that mitigation ready to go. 00:57:26
So here's where the. 00:57:32
The expenses kind of come in. 00:57:33
Were required to mitigate it. 00:57:36
Prior to even. 00:57:37
Purchasing the land from the Forest Service so it's their requirement as well as ads. 00:57:39
Mitigation speak Done. 00:57:43
The cost for mitigation right now is estimated at 1.4 million. We won't have it. 00:57:44
Exact numbers. 00:57:48
The environmental assessments done. 00:57:51
But that's for the full 515 acres. 00:57:52
770 of that's for the landfill site. 00:57:55
630 of that is for the other county uses that I'm going to go over here in a minute. 00:57:58
And then you have the estimated cost to purchase the land. 00:58:02
Which is just over $1 million. 00:58:06
That's 576 for the landfill site. 00:58:08
In 424. 00:58:11
For the other county uses. 00:58:13
And this is what you can expect to spend over the next 18 months. 00:58:15
We've got to pay for the mitigation start in May. 00:58:18
And then when that's done? 00:58:21
You have to pay for. 00:58:22
The purchase of the land so within the next 18 months thereabouts. 00:58:24
We're going to be putting out $2.4 million. 00:58:29
For the Townside Act. 00:58:32
And then the cost for the next landfill expansion. 00:58:34
Is an estimated 19.5. That's a 30 acre site. 00:58:37
It's going to last you. 00:58:40
50 plus years. 00:58:42
So it seems like a lot. 00:58:44
Put it in perspective. I think the. 00:58:47
Cell 3B is 5 acres or something. 00:58:49
What 3D is? 00:58:52
The size of three P. 00:58:54
So this is 30 acres, so you can see the cost differential, but. 00:58:57
It's going to last you for. 00:59:00
50 plus years. 00:59:01
The consultants saying more than that, but I like to use conservative numbers. 00:59:03
So this is just real quick, not going to spend a lot of time on this, but this is. 00:59:07
The cultural sites. I think you were asking about this. 00:59:12
Earlier she advised client that. 00:59:15
You know about the environmental assessment. This is what's going on. These are the cultural sites. 00:59:17
It's not as bad as it looks. 00:59:22
There's a lot. 00:59:24
Out there. 00:59:25
But they're not. 00:59:26
They're not sites, they're not building, they're not villages, they're just. 00:59:27
Small artifacts in these areas that they're finding so. 00:59:31
It's it's it's not as heavy as it looks. 00:59:34
But each one of these areas have to be mitigated in. 00:59:38
And clear before we can go through with the. 00:59:40
And with the. 00:59:44
Purchase from the Forest Service. 00:59:46
Here's the breakdown. 00:59:49
Of that 512 acres you can see. 00:59:50
The light blue, the 89 acres, that's where we're currently operating out for the landfill. 00:59:52
And for the material pit? 00:59:57
The purple, which is the smallest thing there right above. 01:00:00
The little you there. 01:00:04
That is a roadway and utility corridor that we're going to have to have. 01:00:06
For the landfill. 01:00:11
And then we have the. 01:00:12
Light orange there, which is. 01:00:15
The future landfill expansion is 171 acres. 01:00:16
Has broken into 3 phases. 01:00:19
Phase one is 30 acres. 01:00:21
Phase 2 is 45 acres. 01:00:23
And then future phases. 01:00:25
100 years out. 01:00:27
Is the 96 acres for? 01:00:29
Long, long term. 01:00:31
For the landfill. 01:00:33
And then you have. 01:00:35
67 acres. 01:00:37
For a proposed Rd. material Pet. 01:00:38
I've talked to Wayne. 01:00:42
With our roads department. 01:00:44
He said that is not a suitable area. 01:00:47
For Rd. material. 01:00:49
He doesn't need another material pet. 01:00:51
He doesn't want another material pet. 01:00:54
And then the remaining 160 acres there. 01:00:57
Is for. 01:01:00
Future county administrative buildings and I. 01:01:02
Like I said, there's not really anybody here that was. 01:01:05
Privy to those conversations when this was first developed. 01:01:07
I don't know what that's for. 01:01:10
I figured before we start spending serious money, we. 01:01:12
You just wanted to make sure we're all in this. 01:01:15
Same page. So that's really. 01:01:17
The question that we're going to be asking. 01:01:19
Here in the next slide, but. 01:01:21
Just real quick, just to kind of. 01:01:23
Breakdown the long term cost framework here. Phase one. Again, this is for the landfill. 01:01:25
Would be. 01:01:30
19 and a half million. 01:01:31
To get that first phase going. 01:01:32
I got a breakdown on that if you want to see it. 01:01:35
Very boring detail, but I've got it on here if you want to see it. 01:01:38
Phase 2 is. 01:01:41
50 plus years down the road for that, that second phase, it's going to last you another. 01:01:43
60 years plus. 01:01:47
And then you still have that future phase that's not even shown on here, but. 01:01:50
We do have to start planning for post closure. I put that on here because. 01:01:54
As these phases are open, we have to take some of the revenue. 01:01:58
And put it towards those. 01:02:01
Closure and post closure activities. 01:02:03
And then the non lanthill side which is. 01:02:05
Just about $1.2 million. 01:02:08
That we're going to be spinning here in the next 18 months for the non landfill side. 01:02:10
So the board. 01:02:16
Policy question really is. 01:02:17
We've got the landfill related. 01:02:21
That we're going to spend over the next. 01:02:23
18 plus months. 01:02:26
Of 1.3 million. 01:02:27
And for the other county uses. 01:02:29
We're going to be spending about. 01:02:31
A little over 1,000,000. 01:02:34
We've already spent 144,000. 01:02:35
Towards non landfill side, that's called the environmental assessment that's currently going on. 01:02:38
Do we want to spend? 01:02:42
The other million? 01:02:43
Dollars for this? 01:02:46
So this is where. 01:02:48
We really want some of that discussion to take place. 01:02:50
Do we still want to move forward with the full 512 acres? 01:02:54
Acquisition. 01:02:58
Of the site. 01:03:00
Argue we want to look at. 01:03:02
Scaling that down and just make it more focused towards the landfill and the landfill expansion. 01:03:04
I guess it's time for questions. 01:03:13
Yes, Supervisor Klein. 01:03:15
You know, I was sitting here thinking back to those discussions that we had back in the. 01:03:18
At the time, we're talking about other uses besides just a landfill. 01:03:23
One of the and correct me if I'm wrong. 01:03:28
But. 01:03:31
One of those was to do away with our yard in Pine and move it over there. 01:03:32
And there's some other ideas of movements and facilities out there as well. 01:03:37
And I think Steve, maybe a future jail or something like that. You know, they're so, but they were just discussions. I mean, 01:03:42
that's where that was. 01:03:46
When you're talking $634,000 for other. 01:03:51
Other uses. 01:03:54
It starts getting into real money and none of us can predict the future so. 01:03:56
The Townside Act itself for the 515 acres. 01:04:01
That acreage is hard to. 01:04:08
To acquire. 01:04:11
I mean if you have it. 01:04:12
Whether you're going to put other uses on it or not, I think is a good thing. 01:04:14
Of that that flexibility. 01:04:17
But one of the. 01:04:20
The questions I had for you, Troy is in the landfill. 01:04:23
Enterprise Fund. 01:04:26
What kind of money do you guys have in there that's going to help with this? 01:04:28
Thank you, Mr. Chair, Supervisor Klein. 01:04:36
While there is. 01:04:39
Funding. 01:04:40
The enterprise fund it would be best. 01:04:42
For this to be something that you borrow money for. 01:04:46
Because $19 million for the entire project is. 01:04:50
A significant amount of money. 01:04:55
Previous management brought you. 01:04:58
Protections for. 01:05:02
Revenue that were expected to perform. 01:05:04
More ideally than they have. 01:05:07
And that's what Troy was getting at earlier with your target. 01:05:09
Compaction in your target tonnage. 01:05:13
Illustrate that. 01:05:16
We are not hitting those tonnage numbers. 01:05:18
In the Buckhead Mason. 01:05:21
So you would you would want to borrow. 01:05:23
For that reason you would also want to borrow because. 01:05:26
With this being a 30 year life. 01:05:29
Project or longer? 01:05:31
You would be able to. 01:05:34
Spread the cost. 01:05:35
Over the life of the. 01:05:37
Project instead of the. 01:05:39
The cost being. 01:05:41
Disproportionately on current users. 01:05:43
Right, if you if you spread the expense over. 01:05:45
30 years than people in. 01:05:49
You know 2050 who are using the landfill after we've all retired. 01:05:52
Will be there. 01:05:57
Contributing to that cost. 01:05:59
And we have. 01:06:01
Verified that. 01:06:03
We cannot borrow against. 01:06:04
For example, the existing post closure fund. 01:06:07
Which has. 01:06:10
More than $7,000,000 in it. 01:06:12
That money has to stay there, like you. 01:06:13
You can't borrow against that or anything like that. 01:06:16
OK. 01:06:20
So basically we'd be looking to bond out later in the future for this and if we went with everything that's on that list. 01:06:20
The grand total I think was 56 point, some odd $1,000,000 to get it all done. 01:06:26
And so, I mean, that's that. That's real money. 01:06:32
Anybody's mind and so. 01:06:35
I I think the you know. 01:06:37
I think a conversation needs to be somewhere along the way is just what? 01:06:40
What do we really think of other uses? I mean, we could cut back some costs on that. 01:06:45
And but. 01:06:49
I for one don't want to see us reduce the acreage size any. 01:06:51
I would like to see the acreage size stay there. 01:06:56
Yeah, and just just. 01:06:59
For clarity, it is 56,000,000 but. 01:07:01
You've got 22 million of that that's. 01:07:04
50 years down the road for the phase two expansion. 01:07:07
50 years plus down the road for the phase two expansion and then. 01:07:10
Over like. 01:07:14
Marin was staying over the. 01:07:16
The 50 years of that landfill is. 01:07:18
You're going to capture that post closure costing the annual revenue with the tonnage. So yeah, you'll get the 14,000,000 out of 01:07:22
that. 01:07:25
Correct. Yeah. 01:07:28
I expected that, but the. 01:07:29
$20 million sitting right there for phase one. 01:07:32
Good chunk of change. 01:07:35
Yeah. 01:07:36
Supervisor. 01:07:39
Well, thank you. 01:07:41
Yeah. So here we are on the edge of making decisions that will affect. 01:07:43
Decades into the future. 01:07:48
I for one. 01:07:51
Feel it's an opportunity to get the land, yes. 01:07:55
And the cost of the land doesn't seem to be that much. 01:07:59
More so if we just. 01:08:03
If we. 01:08:05
Cut it back to just what's needed for the landfill expansion. 01:08:05
It's only another $1,000,000 to pick up. 01:08:09
About twice the amount of anchorage. 01:08:12
I don't know if we'll use it or not. 01:08:15
The problem that I see is the $19,000,000 to make it happen. 01:08:17
So why is it so expensive? 01:08:22
I see this line item 15 point. 01:08:25
3 million. 01:08:27
To do the landfill. 01:08:29
Construction. What are we doing? 01:08:31
Well, it's 30 acres. 01:08:34
It's not 6. 01:08:36
So. 01:08:38
You know it's it's. 01:08:41
Exponentially larger. 01:08:42
Than what we're doing at 3 bit 3B at 5 million. 01:08:44
Essentially. 01:08:47
It's a much larger site now. 01:08:50
There is the potential. 01:08:52
It's something that we could look into very quickly. 01:08:54
But we could start working with the consultants to say. 01:08:57
We don't need to build a cell for the next 30 years. 01:09:01
Let's not have phase one and phase two. Let's have 4 phases. 01:09:03
You know, let's take. 01:09:08
Let's take 15 acre. 01:09:10
Sites and bites at a time. 01:09:12
And do it that way now. 01:09:14
It's going to cost you more. 01:09:16
Because you get economies of scale. 01:09:18
But do we need that large of economy on scale for 30 acres? 01:09:20
You know, maybe not. So that's one thing that. 01:09:24
That we could do is take a look at. 01:09:27
Can we get that 15 down to a lesser number maybe? 01:09:31
Half that is 15 acres at 7 million. Make that more of an adjustable number. Now some of those numbers you're not getting rid of. 01:09:35
You know, all of those other numbers that are on that list are things that are required to be done. 01:09:42
Whether it's a 5 acre site or a 20 acre site. 01:09:47
So the only thing you really say was that? 01:09:50
The construction. 01:09:52
It. But again, you're asking the designer to design 4 cells versus 2 cells. 01:09:54
Or what have you. So you're going to spend more of that 56 million in today's dollar may be closer to 58 because you're 01:09:59
subdividing it and taking it in sections and you're losing your economy of scales, but. 01:10:04
Maybe that's the right thing to do at the time. We could certainly look into that. 01:10:10
Yeah, and I've asked a question before. So why? Why? 01:10:14
Why should the car be in the landfill business? 01:10:18
I mean, this is a kind of a. 01:10:20
Crossroads. 01:10:23
To me, long money. 01:10:24
To keep. 01:10:27
A landfill operational. 01:10:28
And so only. 01:10:32
I guess my direction would be. 01:10:39
Keep the land. 01:10:41
The amount and. 01:10:43
That we have 515 acres or whatever, but. 01:10:44
Then trying to figure out ways of doing the expansion without. 01:10:47
Killing us doing the expansion. 01:10:52
We're basically doing this as a favor to the public, really. 01:10:55
What we're doing right? 01:10:59
It's a good bit of good to have a landfill somewhere nearby where people can tell how you get the landfill, but I mean, it could 01:11:02
be a private landfill. 01:11:05
Could be and you, you know. 01:11:09
Models that I've seen in the past before is they. 01:11:11
The town or the county owns the land and then they. 01:11:14
Lease that out to a third party that's responsible for everything and the county takes a shaving off of the tipping fee for 01:11:18
income. 01:11:21
And you use that to find other things in the county. I mean, that's something that can be looked into as well. It's just. 01:11:25
If we're going to do something, we're out of. 01:11:31
Tight time frame. 01:11:34
To start looking at those other alternatives to make those happen. 01:11:36
So OK. 01:11:40
Thanks, Troy. 01:11:41
Welcome. OK, yeah, I, I don't know I've. 01:11:42
I have a lot of mixed things I you know. 01:11:47
Reaching for more property. 01:11:50
We've got property all over the place that we're doing nothing with, we have no plans for. 01:11:51
I've been trying for 10 years to get something done with some of the properties we already own. 01:11:57
Electorate can get more. 01:12:01
Property. Is that beneficial? 01:12:03
To the taxpayers to. 01:12:05
Invest. 01:12:07
Their money in. 01:12:09
Property. 01:12:10
For the county. 01:12:11
I, I, I think as far as. 01:12:13
Development property and things like that, That's up to developers and Realtors. 01:12:16
Not our constituents because that investment. 01:12:23
What are they getting out of? 01:12:27
The property that we already own. 01:12:28
Nothing and so. 01:12:31
If we if we reach for more property, I think we should have a plan. 01:12:35
For that property. 01:12:40
To explain to. 01:12:41
Our constituents, what we're doing. 01:12:43
With that land. 01:12:46
That we're purchasing. 01:12:48
With their money. 01:12:49
Is it a future investment? Opening land will. 01:12:51
Will be worth more. 01:12:55
So we can sell it for more. 01:12:56
To save them money in the future. 01:12:58
But you know we. 01:13:01
We're setting on property. 01:13:02
That we're doing nothing with. 01:13:04
So you know to to reach for more property. 01:13:07
I would like to be convinced of. 01:13:11
What we're going to do with it? 01:13:13
Because if we half of that will give us. 01:13:16
3040 years of landfill. 01:13:19
Umm, what's our responsibility beyond that? 01:13:23
That's that's kind of. 01:13:27
My 2 cents and. 01:13:29
You know, I'm not sure. 01:13:33
If we're going to buy property, where we're at? 01:13:34
With the Russell landfill, we're doing an expansion. 01:13:37
But where are we going to be in? 01:13:41
In 10 years. 01:13:43
With our Russell landfill, if we're going to. 01:13:45
Purchase property. 01:13:47
Is there not better? 01:13:49
Better places. 01:13:51
To spend it. 01:13:53
I'm not. 01:13:56
Trying to be argumentative, I'm just trying to look. 01:13:57
Had a full picture. 01:13:59
A benefit for. 01:14:01
Dollar spent. 01:14:04
Um, but anyway, as we. 01:14:06
As we go forward. 01:14:10
With this. 01:14:12
Agenda. Uh. 01:14:13
Then, then, then we look back at another agenda. 01:14:15
What do we want to do with $5 million? 01:14:18
We've got hundreds of $1,000,000 going out the window and so. 01:14:21
What are we gonna do with five So. 01:14:24
Yeah, but but that's kind of where where I'm at with it and I like. 01:14:27
You know, breaking the phases. 01:14:31
Down some. 01:14:32
Because. 01:14:34
It seems like in the landfills that we have. 01:14:35
We are replacing liners all the time. 01:14:37
So if we. 01:14:41
Make a huge landfill. 01:14:43
How many liners? 01:14:45
We're gonna replace before we get. 01:14:48
To the other end of it. 01:14:50
Either that or build a fence around all of it. 01:14:52
So. But anyway, I guess I guess. 01:14:55
My my my input that. 01:14:58
That's kind of where. 01:15:01
Where I'm with. 01:15:02
On how all. 01:15:04
I will vote on a decision in the future is. 01:15:06
I'm only as good as the information I have. 01:15:10
And if it's. 01:15:13
Going in a land business, I'm not necessarily. 01:15:15
In the land business, I'm in the. 01:15:18
In the take care of the constituents business. 01:15:20
For today and to Morrow so. 01:15:23
That's my $0.02 worth. 01:15:25
Anybody. I'd like to ask Joe a question. Joe, if we get this land at any point, can we sell it? 01:15:28
I'd have to look at the specifics of the Townside Act. 01:15:36
I repeat it. 01:15:40
In advance of the meeting, but I have to dig into a little bit to be able to answer that question but. 01:15:41
I will. 01:15:46
Research that and then get you an answer within the week. 01:15:47
That might be helpful. 01:15:49
Thanks. 01:15:52
OK. All right. Thank you. 01:15:53
OK. Thank you. 01:15:56
And thank you for all you've done for us to step in. 01:15:58
And help us manage. 01:16:03
When we were going through difficulties. 01:16:04
It's been amazing. Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. 01:16:06
OK. We'll move on to. 01:16:11
To E information discussion. 01:16:15
Regarding the status of flood recovery project. 01:16:18
Associated funding resources in the 220 day completion. 01:16:21
Timeline requirements for the NRCS emergency watershed protection. 01:16:26
Projects. 01:16:31
Go ahead, Matt. 01:16:33
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Supervisor, Assistant Supervisor Klein. I won't get into too far into the details of all the finances as 01:16:34
was covered earlier, but as far as the project updates, the projects are are actually moving along very well. Russell Welch for 01:16:41
all intents and purposes is complete at 9 at and and the costs are coming in. 01:16:48
Under the original guarantee maximum price that we had, so we're saving. 01:16:55
We're saving money on all of these projects, all of the projects. 01:17:00
Are tending to be our. 01:17:04
Trending to be completed ahead of schedule. 01:17:06
And within the 220 time. 01:17:09
220 daytime frame including the hospital. I know there's some questions the hospital wall about a later start with this project, 01:17:11
but even with that later start, we're still expecting this. 01:17:16
The hospital while to be completed within the original 220 time. 01:17:22
220 day timeframe. So we're pleased with the progress that's been going on. 01:17:26
With that with that, the six shooter Canyon project is is over 90% completed. It's it's 90.5% ice house county. 01:17:30
Project for all intents and purposes complete. There's just a few minor things that need to be addressed. And then with the punch 01:17:40
list. 01:17:43
The Copper Hills Rd. is 80. 01:17:47
Percent Complete project or the Copper Coast. 01:17:48
Project is 80% complete. 01:17:51
In the hospital, Wallace is at 82.5%. 01:17:53
As I mentioned, all of these are trending to come in under budget. So we've had, we've seen significant savings from what we have 01:17:57
from the guaranteed maximum prices. I sent an e-mail to Mr. O'Driscoll. 01:18:02
With the further detail of. 01:18:08
Of how much we we can expect to be. 01:18:10
I'm sure he can. 01:18:13
Share that with you if you'd like to see that, but like I said, all intents and purposes their projects are. 01:18:14
And moving along very well to the three are. 01:18:21
Are substantially complete last. 01:18:23
3 will be. 01:18:25
Completed, probably within the next. 01:18:27
Within the next six weeks, that's our 220 time. 01:18:31
220 day contract. 01:18:34
Happy to answer any questions. 01:18:35
Supervisor Klein. 01:18:37
Good job, Matt. Thank you. 01:18:39
To provide a question to you. 01:18:41
Thank you, Matt. 01:18:43
No, thank. Thank you very much. And. 01:18:44
I think we can. 01:18:47
Look at the. 01:18:49
Construction that's been done in the company that. 01:18:50
That's doing it and it's it's an amazing. 01:18:53
Of what they're doing what the amount of people and the amount of jobs. 01:18:57
That they're running auto management company so. 01:19:00
And, and I thank our staff very much for. 01:19:04
Working with them to help them be. 01:19:07
As they are so. 01:19:10
Thank you all very much. 01:19:11
We're going to move on to. 01:19:18
2F information discussion. 01:19:21
To provide status update. 01:19:24
To several roadway. 01:19:26
Preservations and rehabilitation. 01:19:30
Project. 01:19:33
Tom Goodman. 01:19:34
And. 01:19:35
Joseph Dickinson. 01:19:36
Chairman, Board of Supervisors, thank you. Before Tom comes up, I wanted to just take him. 01:19:38
A minute to set the tone for where we're taking our roads and infrastructure program. 01:19:43
Because I think. 01:19:47
What What we're about to hear reflects a real shift in how this department is approaching. 01:19:48
The work from the past. 01:19:54
You'll notice these projects don't all get the same treatments. 01:19:56
And that's on purpose. 01:19:59
Sometimes the questions we get. 01:20:01
Why not just chip seal? 01:20:04
Why not just fog seal and move on? 01:20:06
Those are good tools. 01:20:08
That those are tools, not default answers. 01:20:10
The standard we're holding ourselves to is pretty simple. 01:20:13
The right treatment. 01:20:16
Right road, right time. 01:20:17
That means this recommendation, these recommendations are going to be driven by actual condition data. 01:20:21
Distressed surveys. 01:20:26
Pavement age. 01:20:27
What the road is structurally telling us. 01:20:28
Not one-size-fits-all playbook. 01:20:30
Put the wrong fix on the wrong Rd. 01:20:34
Can you either waste money? 01:20:36
They more or mask a problem that just is going to come back bigger. 01:20:37
So what Tom is about to walk us through is. 01:20:42
Not disciplining action. 01:20:44
Project by project. 01:20:46
He and the team have put together some real work into this. 01:20:48
And I'm looking forward to any questions. 01:20:51
Long time with that handed over. 01:20:54
Good morning, Mr. Chairman, Supervisors. So I'll start with. 01:21:01
The bottom four and I'll start with. 01:21:06
Can we pull up that damage? 01:21:09
Survey Map. 01:21:11
Yes. 01:21:18
So this is kind of where we're at right now with Guy see the road, You know we did the double chip seals. 01:21:20
Just over 2 years old now. 01:21:24
But this is what we're. 01:21:27
Seeing out there right now and I see the road. So we're looking at about two miles. 01:21:29
And this is from the high point down to the Y intersection. 01:21:33
And so we're seeing the red areas we're showing. 01:21:37
Shoving, which causes washboarding and then in the yellow pin areas, we're seeing subgrade issues, subgrade failures. 01:21:41
So again, it's about two miles. 01:21:51
So I think it's time. 01:21:53
That we. 01:21:54
Really. Uh. 01:21:55
Look at Garcia Road and it's time we do an investment there for the folks. 01:21:57
It's a good community. 01:22:02
And I'd like to give him a big Rd. 01:22:03
So what I would like to propose that we do is we go in and we do a full reconstruction of this 2 miles. 01:22:05
And what I'm talking about is. 01:22:12
I'd like us to take off the top 9 inches. 01:22:15
Take that off and just get it out of there. 01:22:17
And then we look at the subgrade. If we got clay issues down there, let's fix this upgrade before we. 01:22:20
Come back with pavement. 01:22:25
Let's take a look at those hairpin curves. 01:22:27
Those need to be fixed. Let's widen those out at asphalt. 01:22:30
Guardrail, we may need guardrail down there. 01:22:35
So let's take a look at what areas we need to put guardrail in. 01:22:38
Let's take a look at drainage. 01:22:41
Are culverts. They're damaged, they're plugged up. Some areas don't even have culverts where we can put them in. 01:22:43
And then we need to take a look at the ditches on the side of the road. 01:22:50
Drainage, we need to get that water away from the road or whatever we put down there. It's it's going to cause problems in the in 01:22:54
the future. 01:22:57
So looking at all that. 01:23:01
Again, I want to do a full reconstruction. I've got a Kimley Horn. 01:23:04
They're giving me a proposal right now to do this design work for us. 01:23:08
And then this would be a great opportunity. 01:23:13
I've got the support of Joseph, I have the support of Troy to do all this and and I think it's time. 01:23:16
We do this investment for this community. 01:23:22
So I'll be happy to answer any questions. 01:23:25
Said Brad Klein. You got any questions? 01:23:27
You know, we, we invested a lot of money on. 01:23:31
First little round we had on that too. 01:23:34
Tom, I wish. 01:23:37
You know, hindsight's 100%. 01:23:38
How much would have just done that to begin with? 01:23:41
Yes, Sir, so. 01:23:44
What kind of what kind of money are you in? Just a ballpark figure? You talking about in 2 miles? 01:23:45
I think we're looking at at least 4 million. 01:23:50
And then depending on what we find in the subgrade. 01:23:52
How much drainage improvements we need to make guardrail? 01:23:55
Widening those hairpin curves. 01:23:59
It could go from 4 up to six, $7,000,000. 01:24:01
But we would have a So what I on the pavement. We come back, let's say with three inches of asphalt. 01:24:08
On 6 inches of AB. 01:24:14
It'd be a good, very good road and it would last a long time. 01:24:16
For those folks. 01:24:20
Return OK, so. 01:24:26
You're not thinking of doing Gypsy. 01:24:28
I you're thinking of doing paving. 01:24:31
We're paving it, yes, yeah, which is a more permanent. 01:24:33
Absolutely structure. 01:24:36
Yeah, how much would it cost to move guys seal out of that Canyon? 01:24:37
Probably more than 6,000,000. I've driven the road several times and I know this isn't Jims district and I do get calls on it 01:24:43
myself too. 01:24:47
And so I try and keep track of what's going on with the road. 01:24:51
We've put some money into it. It's clearly not been a good. 01:24:55
Outcome. 01:24:59
And so how do we plan on paying for this? So we've got a 4 million or more. 01:25:01
Is that a funding or that what are we doing there? 01:25:05
Yes, Sir. So Supervisor Christian, it's going to be supported through her funding. 01:25:09
And kind of looking at some of the thoughts that we're just getting right now is. 01:25:13
In the past, it's not necessarily an investment if we're not doing what. 01:25:18
The the road is. 01:25:21
So now we're looking at doing truly an investment. 01:25:24
Giving the road exactly what it needs. 01:25:28
But another important point is we're not just doing. 01:25:30
The Guy Celo Rd. 01:25:33
We're going to be doing this across the county here. 01:25:34
We're going to be assessing and valuing all of our roads over the next six months to a year. 01:25:36
And all roads are going to get the same. 01:25:40
Standardized. 01:25:42
Overview. 01:25:44
In assessment so that we can be looking across. 01:25:45
All roads. 01:25:48
On what that fix is going to be, whether it's a fog seal. 01:25:49
At Chips Hill or in some cases in all districts, there's going to be some roads are going to require full. 01:25:52
Resurfacing like this one? 01:25:58
And I like that. I like that approach. 01:26:01
So we spend $1,000,000 on something that doesn't last more than six months. 01:26:03
Or we spend $4 million in the sums gonna last for a year. 01:26:07
Absolutely. And so with this, we're looking at Tom. 01:26:10
I think if we do our maintenance and this is going to be an extremely important. 01:26:14
Big portion of what we're going to be building out within public works is the maintenance side of it. 01:26:17
We looked at over the past couple of decades where a lot of roads were completed. 01:26:22
But they were never done with maintenance. 01:26:26
The intention is to. 01:26:28
Step right into maintenance right after we complete this road. 01:26:29
We're looking at 15 to 20 years depending on how well we're able to do that maintenance and other conditions. 01:26:33
Thank you. 01:26:39
That's a real bad subject with me, gentlemen. 01:26:42
I've got internal scars that'll last me two lifetimes. 01:26:44
Tom's been in a meeting with me when he swore he wouldn't go back to Kaisila without Sheriff. 01:26:48
So, um. 01:26:53
We've made it. 01:26:57
A real bad deal. 01:26:58
And then we did a real bad deal. 01:27:00
Behind it. 01:27:03
I think I've told management leave it alone. 01:27:05
You open that again. 01:27:07
I'm going to have scars on the exterior, not only on the interior. 01:27:09
Gentlemen, if you take a look at this road. 01:27:13
It needs to be. 01:27:16
Professionally done. 01:27:18
Past management has screwed those people. 01:27:20
Severely. 01:27:23
They have horse trailers that they can't. 01:27:25
They take up both lanes and are still their rear tires. 01:27:28
Are on dirt. 01:27:32
Or hanging off an edge. 01:27:34
When that was designed and done, nobody even thought about. 01:27:38
Somebody pulling? 01:27:42
A trailer. 01:27:44
Guys. 01:27:46
This is. 01:27:51
To me. 01:27:52
And. 01:27:53
If if if we entertain this. 01:27:56
I want staff to go to my Gaisela meetings and explain to those people. 01:28:00
And they can take some of the Spears. 01:28:06
That I'm not going to catch. 01:28:08
Because I may not be at a couple of those meetings this go around. 01:28:10
Off the get go. 01:28:14
So I'm just letting you know. 01:28:15
What a major deal is It is to me. 01:28:17
Staff, you can introduce it. 01:28:20
You can tell them why chip sealing was done in other places and their Rd. was shipped for four years. 01:28:22
Excuse my French. 01:28:28
But guys, this is. 01:28:30
Yeah. 01:28:32
Management, thank you. 01:28:34
Very much for looking at this. 01:28:36
But it is it is a major. 01:28:38
So I appreciate it very much. 01:28:40
Thank you. 01:28:44
That's true. Anything else? 01:28:45
OK, well, I think we got more roads too. We'll talk about, yeah. 01:28:49
I'm in on that. I ask you, gentlemen, if you had anything going. 01:28:55
OK, done. 01:28:59
Per spreadsheet. 01:29:00
OK. Gibson Ranch Road, I'll talk about that one next. So we just did the double chip seal on there. 01:29:07
2.52 miles. 01:29:13
And we're seeing. 01:29:15
Issues with the 1st 1.23 miles we're seeing washboarding. 01:29:16
And again, we did it up. Seal, seal. 01:29:21
On pulverized re compacted surface with some AB. 01:29:24
And gentlemen, it just doesn't work. 01:29:28
Double chip seals on. 01:29:32
Anything other than good payment it? 01:29:34
We're seeing it just. 01:29:36
It's it's low cost, but we pay for it in the long run and I. 01:29:38
Which is, as Joseph said, it's it's not the right treatment for. 01:29:41
For going forward. 01:29:45
So what? 01:29:46
Gibson Ranch. 01:29:47
It's only the 1st 1.23 miles that are starting to show some washboarding. 01:29:49
I've driven it many times I've. 01:29:56
Joseph Troy's a. 01:29:58
I've had a lot of people out there looking at it. 01:30:00
And what I suggest that we do is continue to monitor that first section for right now. 01:30:03
It is washboarded, but I I don't. 01:30:09
Consider it to be severe at this point. I don't think it's a safety issue. 01:30:11
I mean if you want to see severe sporting go look at Young Rd. 01:30:16
In that sphere, but. 01:30:20
So what I recommend is that we continue to monitor especially that first section. 01:30:22
If it gets worse then. 01:30:27
I'm going to be coming back here. 01:30:29
Recommending a full reconstruction for that. 01:30:31
For that 1.23 miles. 01:30:34
That's kind of where we're at right now. 01:30:36
It'll be happy to answer questions. 01:30:38
Cortana. 01:30:41
If, if it's, if it's. 01:30:43
If it's washboarding now. 01:30:46
It's only going to get worse, isn't it? I mean. 01:30:49
It's it's hard to say. Yes, it could. 01:30:52
And I'm not going to say no, it won't get worse. It could get worse or it could stabilize for a year or two. 01:30:55
And they start getting worse. It's. 01:31:01
It's that AB under there. I mean we can pack that stuff to 100%. 01:31:03
And then we chips it over it. 01:31:07
It is just. 01:31:09
You know it's going to get shoved. 01:31:12
It's gonna it's gonna cause more sporting. 01:31:14
But I can't tell you is it going to get worse. 01:31:17
It's probably not going to get better. 01:31:19
Tom, I appreciate your patience as we're transitioning to. 01:31:22
Different way of thinking in a different culture. 01:31:26
This is a perfect opportunity for kind of to walk through even some of those. 01:31:28
So when we look at that road. 01:31:32
We're going to be monitoring it. 01:31:34
And as soon as we start seeing that degrade to a certain extent. 01:31:35
It's going to be part of that assessment and evaluation. 01:31:39
In whatever. 01:31:41
Issues or challenges that come along. 01:31:43
Warden addressed them. 01:31:44
Right away. 01:31:46
But also part of that monitoring is there's a low water crossing that we're looking at. 01:31:48
And that low water crossing, we're having some of the team already. Take a look. 01:31:51
So, uh. 01:31:55
What's really important is. 01:31:56
For us to share with you is we're not going to grab some of these roads and just put them to the wayside. 01:31:58
And now we're just going to forget them. 01:32:03
We're going to keep them in the forefront. 01:32:05
And we're going to continue to monitor, we're going to continue to do the maintenance. 01:32:07
And where there's opportunity to do improvements such as that low water crossing. 01:32:11
We're going to be looking real hard at those to see what we can do. 01:32:15
Yeah, we, we. 01:32:18
Well, tunnels we all went out there and looked at too. And public is not happy about that road either. The. 01:32:20
So. 01:32:27
There again, it's a fresh project. 01:32:29
And and to me, in my mind, when you start out with a fresh project and. 01:32:31
Already having problems with it, it's not going to get any better. 01:32:35
You know, and it a lot of it's gonna depend on the type of winter we have. 01:32:38
Moisture and all that too. 01:32:42
On these chip sales? 01:32:44
So, umm. 01:32:45
Yeah, I'm. 01:32:48
You know, double chip. 01:32:52
Tried it, didn't work. We don't need to try it again. I guess, you know, it's, it's kind of moral of the story. 01:32:54
But uh. 01:32:59
I know from. 01:33:01
The the folks out there. 01:33:02
They would like to see something done to fix it. 01:33:05
Yes, Sir, there's not going to be any kickback from them. 01:33:09
Yes, Sir. 01:33:12
And that's, that's the good news about maintenance is there's going to be some of the. 01:33:13
The washboard, that is. 01:33:17
We're going to be assessing that and. 01:33:20
Do we need a shock to it? Do we need to repair it? 01:33:22
Again, the low water crossing, a few other things that. 01:33:25
Have some drainage challenges there. 01:33:28
That we're going to be taking a look at and that's going to be more on the maintenance side that we're going to be stirring up. 01:33:30
See, that's the problem too. And Tom knows this is. 01:33:35
As well as you do that, you know, you just start nickel and diming it to death and what do you have at the end? 01:33:38
Still an issue. 01:33:43
And a lot of times it's your money ahead just to dive in there and. 01:33:45
Do it and be done. 01:33:49
Yes, Sir. 01:33:51
So. 01:33:53
So sometimes sitting up here is not all that easy because. 01:33:57
We have to take the words of. 01:34:01
Recommendation double chip seals and work. It's going to be great. 01:34:03
And let's spend $4 million and do it and. 01:34:08
And then the outcomes not? 01:34:10
What we want so. 01:34:12
There seems to be a change in the attitude on. 01:34:16
How we address our roads. And Joseph, I'm presuming that's coming from you now as the new director. 01:34:21
And so I think I like that. 01:34:27
I just want to be. 01:34:30
Have everybody. 01:34:31
Honestly, give me the assessment I. 01:34:33
Not an expert on. 01:34:35
Ship sealed Double ship sealed. Shoving and. 01:34:37
All those things I. 01:34:40
I just know if it doesn't turn out right, why did? 01:34:42
Why was it recommended that we do that? 01:34:45
So I'd rather spend more money to get it done right. 01:34:49
And I have to deal with it again. 01:34:53
So Gibson Ranch Rd. I've been out there. I get called on that one too. 01:34:55
And so I said, OK, I'll take a look. You know, people that know me live out there, so they. 01:34:59
And so we go out and it's not super bad. 01:35:05
But it's not perfect either. I mean, it's not a runway. You don't want to land a shuttle on it. But. 01:35:07
It's only going to progressively digit. 01:35:14
Again, and it's a reflection on the county. 01:35:17
Absolutely. 01:35:20
But I get mixed reviews. I get comfortable that. 01:35:22
Think it's the best repair they've ever seen? 01:35:24
Was there? We're certainly going to be taking a hard look at it, see where we can. 01:35:27
Do the repairs where we need to. 01:35:32
And if we need to go in there and. 01:35:33
Completely do an overhaul, but we're going to be able to bring you data and information. 01:35:36
And, you know, you bring up a really good point. Supervisor Christensen is. 01:35:41
How can we guarantee? 01:35:45
This information that we're bringing up here is going to provide the results. 01:35:47
In the matter of the fact is, it's always a risk. 01:35:51
Even for us to be able to come up here and tell you that, hey, this is going to come out perfect. 01:35:53
We're not coming up here to tell you we're going to make it perfect. 01:35:57
We're going out there to do with industries, standard norms. 01:36:00
We're going to tie it to engineering. 01:36:02
We're going to tie it to the key performance indicators, giving us the highest potential for a positive outcome. 01:36:04
And what we're doing is we're revamping how we manage our projects. 01:36:10
This is something I'll be working with the team on is. 01:36:13
How do we monitor our projects? So right now a lot of our projects, they're given to a contractor. 01:36:15
In those contractors have an expectation. 01:36:21
But how we write that contract makes a difference. 01:36:23
Should they be owning some of that work? Should there be warranty tied to it? 01:36:26
And in, how do we address some of those issues on the back end? 01:36:29
But here's the really important part. 01:36:33
Is how do we address those when the projects are carrying through? 01:36:34
So being able to monitor the surface temperature, the ambient temperature. 01:36:38
What are the? 01:36:42
And having. 01:36:43
Standard operating procedures of how we're going to address that with the contractor. 01:36:45
Do we need to put a? 01:36:49
The poor today. 01:36:50
Do we need to move this? 01:36:51
So we're going to be testing these projects in. 01:36:53
Whether I see that or any of the other projects. 01:36:56
We're gonna be. 01:36:58
Hitting those projects head on. 01:36:59
Testing. Evaluating. 01:37:02
Being actively on those projects so we can identify some of these issues. 01:37:03
And that's the challenge with projects. 01:37:07
You're going to have issues. 01:37:09
It's just how do we handle them as a county and how do we? 01:37:11
Hold the contractor accountable. 01:37:13
And then from. 01:37:16
The start of it. 01:37:17
How do we select the right contractor? 01:37:18
Lowest bid. It can be a very productive tool. 01:37:20
For procurement. 01:37:23
But there's sometimes we need to look at different procurement vehicles that are going to give us the highest yield for the 01:37:24
highest risk. 01:37:27
These are high facing. 01:37:30
Projects. 01:37:32
They hit the public right away. 01:37:33
So those are things that we're going to be looking at from the cradle. 01:37:35
All the way up to the finished. 01:37:39
Product so. 01:37:40
Supervisor when we when we say we're looking to give you a solid product. 01:37:42
Those are the things that we're going to be taking steps into the right direction. 01:37:45
To be able to give you monitoring. 01:37:49
And the key performance indicators to. 01:37:50
This is everything we did. 01:37:53
To be able to make it the best product that we can't. 01:37:54
Thank you. 01:37:58
Yeah, I have. 01:38:00
I have nothing on that particular Rd. 01:38:01
So OK. 01:38:03
Don't appreciate? 01:38:05
OK. I'll move on to Wallaman Rd. 01:38:08
That includes the World Drive and Beer Tree. 01:38:11
So that roads in. 01:38:14
Some work on it. 01:38:17
And what I would like to do. 01:38:18
Before I make a recommendation of a full reconstruction or some type of chip seal, I don't even like to. 01:38:21
Mention that word right now, but. 01:38:27
I would like to get a design engineer on board. 01:38:29
And have them look at it. 01:38:32
And design something for us that I can then bring to the board and say. 01:38:34
This is what we would like to do. It could be a full reconstruction. There's some bad sections out there. There's some sections 01:38:39
that are not quite so bad. 01:38:42
Where a double chip seal or single chip seal might. 01:38:46
Might be the solution. 01:38:50
But the first step is and I'm ready to do this. 01:38:51
Get an engineering firm on board. I've already reached out to Kimberly Horn to get a. 01:38:55
Proposal and then get this designed. 01:38:59
Get it back to you guys for. 01:39:03
Some. 01:39:05
I'll be happy to answer any questions. 01:39:07
I have. 01:39:10
I have one the. 01:39:11
The city county border. 01:39:13
Is that road? Is it not? It is and so. 01:39:15
The. 01:39:19
The other side of the whole Rd. So. 01:39:20
It's not down the middle of the road. 01:39:24
They're on the one end. 01:39:26
Towards the globe. 01:39:27
As you're getting into downtown globe that are on there. 01:39:29
Area OK, but up it it's out it's. 01:39:31
All ours. 01:39:34
Well, not that portion that's owned by the city. Yeah, that's not right. But I mean up in the portions that you're talking about 01:39:36
getting, that's all ours. 01:39:40
For that's all us. 01:39:44
Yes, OK. 01:39:45
Just just a question. 01:39:47
I knew it was their close so. 01:39:50
OK. No further questions. I don't believe on. 01:39:52
Waller, Monroe. OK. Kellner Crossing. I'm going to ask Jeff to come up, and he's been. 01:39:56
Working on that project in a. 01:40:01
Give a quick update on that. 01:40:04
Supervisors Chairman. 01:40:07
Kilmer Crossing. I want to address Kilner Crossing in terms of. 01:40:11
Russell Rd. 01:40:16
OK. Russell Rd. We're going to be talking about a little bit later. 01:40:17
But the reason that Kellner Crossing is of such an issue this is. 01:40:21
This is actually a small little section. 01:40:25
But it's important because. 01:40:28
Because Russell Rd. is out of Commission. 01:40:30
It's the only way to get back to the residents that live back in that area. 01:40:33
It's the only way to get to the. 01:40:37
Where the all of our antennas and everything are for. 01:40:40
All of our emergency services and all of that stuff, so. 01:40:44
The concern there is is it's a low water crossing. 01:40:48
It's functioning as a low water crossing, but it's not built. 01:40:51
As a low water crossing. 01:40:54
It has a 36 inch pipe and an 18 inch pipe. 01:40:56
That go underneath the road. 01:41:00
And just paved in over the top of it. 01:41:02
Frankly, I'm concerned that it's going to get blown out. 01:41:06
If we get a big flow, it's going to we're going to lose it and then we have no way to get back in there. 01:41:08
So. 01:41:13
This this creates a little bit of a challenge. We can't shut the road down. 01:41:15
Because we have people who live back there and there's no other way to get back there. 01:41:19
So pulling the whole. 01:41:23
Crossy now. 01:41:25
And putting in new boxes or something to upgrade make it a lot bigger. 01:41:26
It's just not feasible at this time because there's no way to get around it. 01:41:31
So what we're proposing is a low water crossing still. 01:41:36
But make it more resilient to. 01:41:40
The flows that we're going to be looking at. 01:41:44
Potentially in the future. 01:41:46
And so it'll be a concrete. 01:41:48
Over the top of the existing pipes we could. We can do that. 01:41:50
Elaine at a time and leave it open. 01:41:54
It also will have upgraded head walls that would train the water a little better. We've got. 01:41:57
A couple of homes that are. 01:42:03
You know, right up next to the wash there that we could do a little protection measure as we go. We actually looked at this 01:42:04
crossing. 01:42:07
When we were looking at the NRCS projects and with edema. 01:42:11
The problem is, is it? 01:42:15
Was not washed out. 01:42:17
So they don't look at it as. 01:42:19
Something that they can come in and reimburse us for. 01:42:21
So we pulled it off of that list. 01:42:25
And we're looking at. 01:42:27
Doing this ourselves and and. 01:42:29
Fixing. 01:42:31
Making it so that. 01:42:32
We still have access back there, at least until we can address Russell Rd. 01:42:34
And make it something that is going to that's going to last if we get a big flow. 01:42:38
With that I got any questions? 01:42:44
If you guys are climbing questions. 01:42:46
Well, that's a tough one. 01:42:48
You know if it's not broke, don't fix it. 01:42:50
Type of thing, right? 01:42:52
Yeah, and access, I understand that is an issue. 01:42:53
So, umm. 01:42:56
I don't know what that question to ask you I guess. 01:42:58
I'm sure there's some there, but I don't sure what it is. So thank you, Jeff. 01:43:01
I will also add. 01:43:05
That as far as we you know, we're looking at these other projects, this is a fairly lower cost. 01:43:06
Fixed, but I think it. 01:43:12
Isn't it? It's probably one of the more important. 01:43:13
Access points that we have. 01:43:16
Would it be prudent to wait until Russell? 01:43:19
Prepared enough? 01:43:23
So where this could be? 01:43:24
Taken out. My concern is is that we get a major event. 01:43:26
And it blows out and then we have no access back there. 01:43:30
OK, I. 01:43:36
I agree with you, I was there. 01:43:36
I've been there when it's. 01:43:39
Flooded. 01:43:40
I've been there when we walked through to look at some of the projects for the 220. 01:43:41
Day projects. 01:43:47
And it it's not in very good shape. 01:43:48
Now. 01:43:52
And so. 01:43:53
An event would take that out. 01:43:55
Which would leave the entire canals. 01:43:57
Without access. 01:44:00
Not even an old dirt Rd. 01:44:02
And so I think it. 01:44:04
Is important that we do. 01:44:06
What we can with it. 01:44:08
Because we don't know. 01:44:10
What design on Russia will get into that earlier? 01:44:12
But that's still. 01:44:15
Years out. 01:44:17
In reality, as far as I know now. 01:44:19
Because we don't even have design yet. 01:44:23
And so. 01:44:26
I think it's an important project because I've been there during the water, I've been there after the water. 01:44:27
And if like you say, if that goes Kellner Canyon. 01:44:33
Those people have. 01:44:37
No way to get. 01:44:38
In or out? 01:44:39
Or emergency. 01:44:40
Services or. 01:44:42
Like I say, if we get storms like that. 01:44:44
All of our towers are on top of the panels. 01:44:46
And uh. 01:44:49
The only access then would become Coco. 01:44:50
So I think it's. 01:44:52
It's a small project, but I think it's an important. 01:44:54
Project that's. 01:44:57
That's my $0.02 worth. 01:44:59
So if there's no. 01:45:01
Further questions on. 01:45:04
Counter crossing. 01:45:06
Then, Tom, we can reach out for another row. 01:45:07
Thank you. 01:45:11
Great. Thank you. OK. So I'm going to move on to Russell Rd. 01:45:12
So Russell Rd. 01:45:16
We have the Smart Grant for just over $1,000,000 a million $41,199. 01:45:19
And that's administered by ADOT. 01:45:25
The Ardora is the design firm. 01:45:28
So right now. 01:45:31
We are. They have completed the first phase and they've completed plans up to about 30%. 01:45:32
We've got about $400,000 left. 01:45:39
To get us to final design and. 01:45:42
Environmental clearance. The need for clearance. 01:45:45
The problem is. 01:45:47
Adot contacted me and said. 01:45:49
The 400,000 is not enough, we're going to need an additional 500,000. 01:45:52
Of county funds. 01:45:58
To complete design. 01:45:59
Which we could. 01:46:01
Get that done pretty quickly. 01:46:01
And complete NEPA. 01:46:04
And then we would have a full bid ready package. 01:46:06
So what I'm proposing is that. 01:46:09
We look at giving ADOT this additional $500,000. 01:46:14
And they will then. 01:46:19
Take the our design. 01:46:20
Get it designed. 01:46:22
And get it bid ready package. 01:46:23
When people will be completed? 01:46:25
And then we will have a full get ready set of plans. 01:46:27
One other thing that we just did last month is we applied for a $25 million grant. 01:46:31
To construct Russell Rd. 01:46:37
NSFLTP. 01:46:39
That's nationally significant federal land tribal program grant. 01:46:41
And so we have not heard back on that one, but that we asked for $25 million on that. 01:46:47
But what I'm asking for today? 01:46:52
Is that you? 01:46:54
I would like to come back to you guys for an additional $500,000. 01:46:56
So we can complete this design. 01:47:00
Be happy to answer questions. 01:47:03
Supervisor client. 01:47:05
So, Tom, without that complete design, you have troubles. 01:47:07
Getting grant money. 01:47:11
A lot of these grants, they want completed plans with nephew. 01:47:13
Clearance. Mm-hmm. 01:47:17
Yeah. So I think that first step is that that 100% design. 01:47:18
Nuclear clearance that that. 01:47:23
That completes your package and you're ready to go. 01:47:25
And without it, I don't think you're gonna have any luck. So I I think with Russell Rd. 01:47:28
As far as that goes, I think we'll kind of need to do that. 01:47:34
Yeah, that's just where I'm at. 01:47:38
I don't see where we don't have it. We don't really have a choice. We have to. 01:47:41
Well, we do what we could do. What Adon has said is we've got 400,000. 01:47:44
So ADOT can take that 400,000 they didn't get us to say. 01:47:49
90% plans without NEPA clearance. 01:47:54
And we can put that on the shelf. 01:47:57
Until we someday decide. 01:47:59
We'll come up with the 500,000. 01:48:01
To complete it. 01:48:03
That's the other option. 01:48:04
That's not what I recommend. 01:48:06
OK, Yeah, I. 01:48:08
I've been concerned and I've asked questions about this many, many times and it seems to me that. 01:48:11
And I used to have monthly meetings. 01:48:18
And this road came up quite a bit and it seemed to me. 01:48:21
That at one time we were about 90% design. 01:48:24
And the estimated cost was $22 million to fix it. 01:48:29
That's not in the conversation today. 01:48:34
So then, OK, we received a. 01:48:36
The first grant. 01:48:40
For design and then we were obligated to put in for the grant. 01:48:42
To rebuild it. 01:48:48
So I'm getting information here. 01:48:50
And then information here. 01:48:54
Which makes me wonder about information. 01:48:57
In the middle. 01:49:00
If if they gave us money and says. 01:49:02
You've got to get to a certain point and then you got to put in for the other grant. 01:49:04
And they didn't give us enough money. 01:49:08
Why don't we ask him for more money? Because their money didn't get us to where they want us to go. 01:49:12
That's just I don't expect you to answer that question today. 01:49:18
But where I'm at it's like, OK, here's $1,000,000 for design. 01:49:22
And it's like, knock on the door, it's like. 01:49:25
Guys, $1,000,000 didn't get Sir. 01:49:27
We're going to need another 5 to get where you want us to go, and we're obligated to go and we've already spent a bunch of your 01:49:30
money, but we're not where we need to go so. 01:49:34
Yeah, we got to get designed, but I mean, I don't know if we're. 01:49:40
Once that happens, that's why I was skeptical. 01:49:44
On the. 01:49:48
Kellner because. 01:49:49
Joshua knows what I'm going to get this done. 01:49:50
If now if we throw another. 01:49:53
500,000 added. 01:49:55
Because they didn't give us enough money to get where they wanted us to go. 01:49:57
And then we're looking at. 01:50:01
Putting in for a grant for $22 million, it's like. 01:50:03
Wow. 01:50:06
You know, we're, we're having a hard time getting. 01:50:07
Getting money to. 01:50:10
Restore the storm damage that we've had now. 01:50:11
So how can we go to the same government and say, oh, Oh yeah, we need 22 million to open the road? 01:50:15
It's Gly. 01:50:22
It's it's difficult, but. 01:50:24
It's a very important Rd. 01:50:27
For our for the community down here. 01:50:30
Because. 01:50:33
For access. 01:50:35
6 shooters in better shape now. 01:50:37
But before A6 shooter got washed out. 01:50:39
Russell was our only way to get. 01:50:42
Over and around. 01:50:43
Through calendar. 01:50:46
But now 6 shooters a little better. 01:50:47
So, you know, we don't have the threat when we put in for a grant that. 01:50:50
Well, if 6 shooter washes out, it's like, well, you guys just put all this money in six shooter. 01:50:54
So, you know, Russell's not. 01:50:59
That important because six shooters. 01:51:02
Fixed now so. 01:51:04
Yeah, it that, that's a can of worms there. 01:51:06
And so. 01:51:09
Anyway, I guess. 01:51:10
I don't know where that. 01:51:13
Money would come from. 01:51:15
That they're asking for. 01:51:17
To finish design. 01:51:19
But those are. 01:51:22
Questions that I have. 01:51:24
Because of information that I. 01:51:29
I'm not sure. 01:51:31
So that's that's my two cents on that one. 01:51:32
Tom, is is, is there any? 01:51:38
Other grant money out there that would help us with that 500,000 that. 01:51:42
We could apply for to help get us there, or we could apply for another SMART grant. 01:51:45
There might be some other grants we could apply for for the 500,000. 01:51:50
It's, you know, it's going to take time. 01:51:54
Course and. 01:51:57
But yeah, that is an option. We can definitely look at that if. 01:51:58
I think the 500,000 would probably come out of her funds. 01:52:02
Transportation exercise funds, that's probably where we would get it. 01:52:05
But if we decide, hey, maybe you know. 01:52:09
Let's temporarily put this project on hold. 01:52:12
Go look for that. 01:52:16
$500,000 through a grant opportunity. 01:52:17
And hopefully that would come through and then we could finish design it, then we wouldn't have to. 01:52:21
So right now I I hear though you've already applied for that 20. 01:52:25
$5,000,020.00 Grant Yes. 01:52:30
So you kind of. 01:52:33
Behind the power curve on this one. 01:52:35
Because you're gonna have to have that 100% design. I'll bet you a dollar on it. 01:52:37
Oh yeah, so umm. 01:52:40
I'm hopeful, you know. 01:52:42
We just applied for last month in July. 01:52:44
It I don't know when we'll hear the results of that grant. 01:52:47
I'm hopeful I I went on their website and looked at some of the other awards they've made over the last several years and. 01:52:51
I think we're in line with what the program. 01:52:58
All about. 01:53:00
And so my fingers are crossed and I'm hopeful that, yeah, it may come through for us. Hold on just a second. 01:53:02
Michael, did you have input? 01:53:10
Chairman and members of the board as far as the 500,000 goes. 01:53:12
We would be looking at her. 01:53:15
However, if Earth cannot cover it or we decide. 01:53:17
Not to cover with her if we do have the capacity in talking to Marin in our capital projects to cover that. 01:53:20
OK. Thank you. Perfect timing. 01:53:28
OK. And and I'd like to add one thing. When when we talked about you mentioned and you were correct in everything you said. 01:53:31
Just a little clarification. 01:53:38
So we took. 01:53:40
Adot broke. 01:53:42
Russell rode up into two phases. The first phase. 01:53:43
That took us when I mentioned 90%. 01:53:46
That's when they were looking at, OK, we're going to take. 01:53:49
Abandoned the road and we're going to go up over the mountain and tie in somewhere else. 01:53:52
Or we're going to shift more into the. 01:53:57
Or we're going to rebuild it exactly where it's at now. 01:53:59
That's where we get to that. 01:54:02
When I had mentioned 90%. 01:54:03
A long time ago. 01:54:05
And so we got through that and they were recommend we rebuild the road basically where it sits right now is what they recommended. 01:54:07
And that that was the first phase and now we're into this final phase to get final design. So OK, that's great. 01:54:15
Thank you. Any more questions on Russell? 01:54:23
OK then. 01:54:27
Go ahead. OK, last one. 01:54:28
So Johnson Blvd. in Tonto Village and I think on. 01:54:30
Agenda today it said Tunnel Basin, but it's Tunnel Village. 01:54:35
So again, this is an ADOT administered project OSB grant, off system Bridge grant. 01:54:39
And this is fully funded by ADAD. 01:54:46
$770,000 we don't have a penny. 01:54:48
In that they and that was for design and construction. 01:54:51
So we have. 01:54:55
Done with design. 01:54:56
A dot is ready to advertise this project for construction. 01:54:58
Again, we've had no money invested up till now. 01:55:02
Adot came to me about a. 01:55:06
A few weeks ago and said. 01:55:07
Were a little bit short. 01:55:10
We need to put an inspector out there. A dot wants to put an inspector, which is. That's just the way it works and we we need 01:55:11
that. 01:55:15
They said we can do a part-time inspector. 01:55:18
Which is going to cost 64,000 plus change. 01:55:21
Or we can put a full time inspector out there. 01:55:25
It's going to cost $128,000. 01:55:27
Hasn't changed. I recommend we put a full time inspector on the project. He did there all the time watching the contractor. 01:55:30
We're going to get better quality. 01:55:37
Issues will be resolved. 01:55:40
Quicker with a full time inspector, there's just a lot of benefits. 01:55:41
And so my recommendation is that we go with a full time inspector. 01:55:45
So I'll come back to you. 01:55:50
With that proposal, if you guys decide that's the way to go. 01:55:52
And then we get that to a dot. 01:55:56
And they'll advertise the project for construction. 01:55:59
Be happy to answer questions. 01:56:02
What's What's the lifespan of this project? 01:56:04
Tom, how long is it going to take to build it? 01:56:07
It's a pretty it's a single span bridge. 01:56:09
Yeah. It's, it's six months, Yeah. 01:56:11
So I can't imagine us not having an inspector on the job. 01:56:15
While it's being built tight. 01:56:18
I think. 01:56:20
I I don't know how you do that. 01:56:21
Yeah, so. 01:56:23
That answers the question from my standpoint. 01:56:25
Gentleman, so I'm familiar with Johnson Blvd. So is this. 01:56:30
I'm trying to envision. 01:56:35
The giant chasm that. 01:56:37
We're going to be building a bridge over. 01:56:39
It doesn't seem like there's much of anything out there on Johnson Blvd. is it? 01:56:41
At the very beginning as you enter. 01:56:45
Town of village? Or is it at the other end? It's in the middle. 01:56:48
OK, Yeah. 01:56:51
And there's like a culprit there. 01:56:53
No, there's there's a bridge there now. 01:56:55
And it goes over a dry Creek. I don't know the name of the Creek, I'm not even sure it has a name, but it does go over a Creek 01:56:58
that does flow at times. 01:57:02
Yeah, but kind of a yeah. 01:57:06
And there's homes on each side. 01:57:08
So it's right there in the community. 01:57:10
Right, OK. 01:57:12
All right. Thanks. 01:57:14
I had no question. 01:57:16
Mr. Chair, if I might have another question for Tom. 01:57:19
We have a list of all this but. 01:57:22
I know that 512 Road is just about. 01:57:24
Complete for design and. 01:57:26
And, umm. 01:57:28
The the assessment thing on that. 01:57:29
Do you have an update for us on that? 01:57:31
I do have an update on Young Rd. 01:57:33
So we met with ADOT. 01:57:35
Yesterday and for service. 01:57:36
And got an update so we just completed. 01:57:39
60% plants. 01:57:42
And we are quickly moving towards 90% plans and 100% plans. We'll have 90% plans in November. 01:57:44
And ADOT will be ready to advertise this project. 01:57:52
In January. 01:57:56
And we could go to construction in February. 01:57:58
The problem is. So we're looking at 13 1/2 miles. 01:58:02
That we want to pay. 01:58:05
It's going to be a $25 million. 01:58:08
That's currently what we're estimating it at 60%, Thirty $25 million. 01:58:10
ADOT will not advertise the project unless. 01:58:15
Gila County writes a check. 01:58:19
For $25 million and cents. 01:58:20
If we don't do that. 01:58:23
If we don't come up with the 25,000,000. 01:58:25
They're going to stop at stage 4, which is 90% plans. 01:58:28
They will not complete the NEPA. 01:58:32
And the project will just kind of sit there. 01:58:34
And we're there. This is going to happen in November. 01:58:38
So. 01:58:42
We are going to apply for grants. 01:58:43
We've already I'm working with Amy. 01:58:45
And her staff were already looking at grant opportunities to apply again, $25 million. 01:58:48
We want to. 01:58:55
Get this thing built. 01:58:57
Now this project is scalable. 01:58:59
And when I say that, I mean we could build 2 miles of it. 01:59:01
You know we could take take the worst 2 miles. 01:59:04
And if we had? 01:59:07
$2,000,000. 01:59:08
We could say we're going to pave a mile of this. 01:59:09
The problem is that. 01:59:12
It's being designed. 01:59:15
Package. So I would have to go back to the engineering firm and say this is what we. 01:59:16
We've got 2 million. 01:59:21
Break out this one mile section. 01:59:22
Design that as a standalone project. 01:59:24
And then I would have to get with. 01:59:27
And say I know you guys cleared the whole project NEPA. 01:59:29
I want you to take a look and only clear this. 01:59:33
One or two miles section. 01:59:37
And we talked about that yesterday with ADOT and they said. 01:59:39
That could be a problem. 01:59:42
To me it makes absolutely no sense. If you cleared the whole project, why can't you just? 01:59:44
Take take out a one mile chunk and. 01:59:48
Right and clear that. 01:59:51
It's already cleared. 01:59:52
I'm not sure ADAT knew what they were. 01:59:54
Saying yesterday but. 01:59:57
It really makes no sense to any of us so. 01:59:59
That's something we would have to work with. 02:00:01
But that's kind of where we're at. 02:00:04
I know $25 million is a lot of money. 02:00:07
But if we could come up with that. 02:00:11
We could have Young Rd. under construction in February. 02:00:13
So. 02:00:17
But you know, excuse me, No. And nothing against it, Joe. That's not the on the agenda. 02:00:18
But it is a work session so. 02:00:24
Are we? Are we OK? 02:00:26
Yes. Umm. 02:00:28
OK, good enough. I was just gonna do. No, I didn't. I just need to be sure we were safe because. 02:00:29
We could get up into another three or four different roads here before this is over and I just wanted to be sure that we're good. 02:00:34
Because that wasn't on. And so if we're good. 02:00:41
Continue. Thank you, Joe. 02:00:44
So one of the things is after the Tunnel Creek Bridge, 512 was the top of the priority, yes. 02:00:46
And so Robin. 02:00:52
Heist Dan was here a week ago. I think she met with with a lot of your departments and looked at projects. 02:00:54
And so I don't know if you guys are talking to her, but. 02:01:00
Federal highways may have something out there for grant monies. 02:01:03
You know that's. 02:01:06
That's where. 02:01:08
Where she comes to play right there, yes. So I know, Robin and I knew. 02:01:09
The lady before Robin. So yeah. 02:01:13
Yeah, we're in contact with them. 02:01:15
Any opportunities? 02:01:18
We're going to look at it and again, if they can get us two or three million. 02:01:20
At least we could build a mile section. 02:01:23
I'd love to get the entire $25 million and get this thing under construction in, say, February. 02:01:26
Then give a date out. 02:01:33
If it's FHWA money, adopt will administer it? Yes. 02:01:35
Thank you, Tom. 02:01:39
Yet I think we definitely got to reach out to Washington. 02:01:41
One, we've got to have some money come in for this. 02:01:44
And we have a couple senators, or at least one that is. 02:01:48
Interested in the development of the young area for several purposes so. 02:01:52
If we don't do the whole project, we're going to be spending more money. 02:01:58
Overtime. 02:02:02
Yeah, because it. 02:02:03
They would charge us to break out a section. 02:02:04
Yep. 02:02:06
OK, anything else on? 02:02:09
OK. I would like to thank. 02:02:15
Staff very much work. 02:02:17
This work session on. 02:02:20
On these projects. 02:02:21
And I think a lot of things. 02:02:24
Are different. 02:02:27
Because of. 02:02:29
Of staff and the team effort. 02:02:30
Because these projects brought up. 02:02:33
To get our input of where and how and why and kind of an explanation. 02:02:36
And pest management that didn't. 02:02:41
Seemed to happen often it was more of a dictatorship. So I just want to thank you guys very much for. 02:02:43
Your time, energy and effort today in. 02:02:50
Bringing these projects forward. 02:02:53
With us for discussion. Thank you very much. 02:02:56
And so. 02:03:00
I will move on. 02:03:01
Now 2 call to the public. 02:03:03
Do we have any public up in patient? 02:03:07
We haven't seen them for a while. 02:03:11
I think, and we look at pacing, we're still on. 02:03:17
Public works engineering project. 02:03:21
To see if we have anybody with call to the public. 02:03:25
No, we do not. 02:03:28
But thanks for bringing that. 02:03:29
Light to us. 02:03:31
And so, OK, do we have any call to the public? 02:03:34
Here. 02:03:38
OK, how many do we have? 02:03:40
With you today on IT. 02:03:42
96 views total 18. 02:03:45
19 total, 18 current. 02:03:48
So 96. 02:03:51
Oh, OK. 02:03:53
Good. No comments. 02:03:55
OK, good. 02:03:58
Well, I'm glad that people are participating and being more interested in. 02:04:00
What we're doing. 02:04:06
For them. 02:04:07
Summary of current events. 02:04:09
Mr. 02:04:11
Chairman, members of the board, thank you. I just have a couple updates. 02:04:13
I'd like to introduce in our audience we have Van Ornelius. 02:04:16
Or malice. 02:04:20
Nice mistake is our communication specialist that just came on board. 02:04:21
So he's going to be in charge of. 02:04:26
Meeting one-on-one with all of you. 02:04:27
To find out what kind of communications you would like. 02:04:30
To see in Gila County, he's also going to be meeting with the towns and the cities. 02:04:33
To improve that communication. 02:04:37
And work on our marketing. 02:04:39
Social media programs as well. 02:04:42
So he's a fifth generation Arizonian from Yuma. 02:04:44
I believe. 02:04:48
And he has. 02:04:49
Excellent experience in that position, so. 02:04:50
Welcome, Ben. Thank you very much. 02:04:53
Thank you. Welcome aboard. 02:04:55
We, we met you earlier, yes. 02:04:57
Thank you and community development at a previous work session. 02:04:59
Randy brought forth the comprehensive plan to the board. 02:05:04
Going out, forbid and those kinds of things. 02:05:08
And Supervisor Klein recommended we take a look at doing it in house. 02:05:11
And we received the bids and we're going to be taking up supervisor client on his idea. 02:05:15
And the bids were a little bit more than we want to spend so. 02:05:21
We've met with our teams and we're going to be doing that in house. 02:05:25
And when we get a. 02:05:28
When we get a meeting together. 02:05:30
To bring. 02:05:32
Back to the board during the work session, the strategies and how we're going to do that. 02:05:32
We'll do that in the next four to six weeks. 02:05:36
With elections coming up in November. 02:05:40
Talked to Alfonso, we met with the recorder. 02:05:43
Emergency Management Alfonso about a month ago. 02:05:46
We talked strategies for trying to recruit new volunteers. 02:05:48
And as of today, Alfonso and his team have recruited. 02:05:53
40 new poll workers. 02:05:58
We were short and poll workers in almost every election so. 02:06:00
With the recorders assistance on getting us a list. 02:06:04
Of potential people in Gila County who want to volunteer. 02:06:08
And some other strategies. They're doing an excellent job this year. 02:06:12
So we're still needing about 10 volunteers and we're hopefully we'll have those lined up in the next next week or two. 02:06:15
So that that's really good news there. 02:06:23
And. 02:06:26
The last one, the last update would. 02:06:27
Tiffany just notified me this morning that there's going to be a change in the public fiduciary. 02:06:30
The Arizona Supreme Court is revising their requirements for fiduciary offices. 02:06:37
To include all clients visits to be made by licensed to do. 02:06:43
Only. 02:06:47
So there's only two licensed fiduciaries in her office. That would be Tiffany and her deputy. 02:06:48
So that's going to be a big change for her. 02:06:55
Department and that goes into effect November 15th of this year. 02:06:57
So. 02:07:01
So that's going to be a big change to her, but we're going to be able to support Tiffany and she already has a plan in place. 02:07:03
With with her other employees to meet those requirements from the Supreme Court. 02:07:09
So she already has her department ready for this so. 02:07:14
However, support she needs while county. 02:07:17
Management will help her with that. 02:07:20
And that's all my updates. 02:07:21
Thank you very much, Supervisor Klein. 02:07:24
I don't have a lot. Last Saturday I helped with the Community Center up there on a. 02:07:27
On an auction fundraiser went real well. Had a good time with that. 02:07:32
And then we had received a card from. 02:07:36
All of our youth workers out of. 02:07:40
Hayden and Winkleman thanking us for this. 02:07:42
The youth program that we've had here for a while, so. 02:07:45
I think that was really cool and. 02:07:48
They're real appreciative of that program and. 02:07:50
We'll go from there. Thank you. 02:07:53
Supervisor. 02:07:56
Thank you, so not much to report either but yesterday was my regular. 02:07:58
Kmog time slot. 02:08:03
3rd Monday of each month. 02:08:06
It went very well and invited Michael to join me and. 02:08:08
Did and so we had a good discussion, covered a lot of. 02:08:12
Issues got a lot of different phone calls so it was another good session. 02:08:16
It went really well. 02:08:21
Thank you for. 02:08:23
Common, yeah. 02:08:23
OK. 02:08:26
You said fundraiser. What was the fundraiser for the Community Center, the nonprofit? 02:08:28
Oh, good, Yeah. 02:08:33
There's an auction. 02:08:34
Oh, OK, good. 02:08:36
OK, I was, I was on KQSS on the 17th. 02:08:38
I met with Robin from both public affairs on the 19th. 02:08:43
And we toured a lot of the. 02:08:47
Being done. 02:08:50
From the damage that was created by. 02:08:51
The flow her and I have. 02:08:54
Quite a few conversations on. 02:08:55
Things that. 02:08:57
She can help us with. 02:08:58
I'll attend the LEPC local emergency planning committee. 02:09:00
That's pretty much all the. 02:09:05
On Thursday. 02:09:07
And then that meeting will. 02:09:09
Be at the fairgrounds and so. 02:09:12
Anyway, that's about all I have. 02:09:14
So if that's all we have, I will go on to. 02:09:16
#5 quest for. 02:09:21
Future agenda items. 02:09:23
Supervisor Klein, do you have any? 02:09:26
Thing that you would like to see on a future agenda? 02:09:28
Not at this time. 02:09:31
Supervisor Christianson, I'd like to see same thing. Not at this time. 02:09:33
And and I'm. 02:09:39
Good as well for for now. 02:09:41
But it sounds after our. 02:09:45
Conversation with our deal today we're gonna. 02:09:47
We're gonna have some more things coming up on our agenda, it seems. And so. 02:09:50
That'll create some meetings I'm sure. 02:09:55
Okay, Executive session information discussion action to enter. 02:09:58
Into executive session. 02:10:02
Pursuant to ARS. 02:10:04
38-431 Point 03. 02:10:06
A three and seven. 02:10:10
For discussion. 02:10:12
Or consultation for legal advice with the board's attorney. 02:10:13
And discuss. 02:10:18
Or collaborate or consultation? Consultation with the supervisors to consider. 02:10:20
The counties. 02:10:26
Position regarding the county owned property. 02:10:27
Located adjacent to the Gila County College. 02:10:30
Impatient and Josh will be. 02:10:35
Presenting there. 02:10:38
Are you asking for a motion? 02:10:41
I am asking for well so moved. 02:10:42
Mr. Chairman. 02:10:45
I'll second it. 02:10:46
OK, we have a motion a second. All in favor say aye. 02:10:47
Aye. 02:10:51
I will take a little short break and I'll see you in executive session we're. 02:10:52
We're back from executive session so reconvene as a board. 02:10:57
Supervisors. 02:11:02
And I will call for. 02:11:05
Emotion. 02:11:07
I'll make the motion, just have staff. 02:11:10
Proceed is discussed. 02:11:12
I'll second having a motion. Second all in favor say aye aye. 02:11:14
I passes unanimous. 02:11:18
And so then I will. 02:11:21
Opposed today's meeting. Thank you all. 02:11:24
Have a good day. 02:11:27
Maybe you have to be reception like. 02:11:32